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over a year ago
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"I'm so tired but I cannot sleep at all.
Any ideas to help with sleeping problems?  "
If you have BBC iplayer look up a program about sleep deprivation it might help it was on Wednesday I think |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I'm so tired but I cannot sleep at all.
Any ideas to help with sleeping problems?
If you have BBC iplayer look up a program about sleep deprivation it might help it was on Wednesday I think "
Oooh thank you, I may have to watch that and see if it has any ideas. Insomnia can be a cruel mistress |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Sorry can't help. I'm an insomniac so most nights I struggle to sleep.
Apparently having a good bed time routine helps, and switching off tv, phones and laptops etc.
A hot bath and warm milk. X |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I'm in the same boat this week and put up a status last night to say I couldn't sleep.
This morning I had several suggestions to help in my inbox....not sure they would all work though!  "
That's always the way haha! The first call is to fornicate the energy away - to put it politely haha  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Come do my oil change in my kia and while you are at it, check the tires' pressure. Then you could polish my shoes and I'd make love to you for 1 minutes and 12 seconds. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Sorry can't help. I'm an insomniac so most nights I struggle to sleep.
Apparently having a good bed time routine helps, and switching off tv, phones and laptops etc.
A hot bath and warm milk. X "
I'm an insomniac too, but I can't sleep without watching something mindless. If I end up with no screens at all then my brain begins to ponder the universe.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm so tired but I cannot sleep at all.
Any ideas to help with sleeping problems?
If you have BBC iplayer look up a program about sleep deprivation it might help it was on Wednesday I think
Oooh thank you, I may have to watch that and see if it has any ideas. Insomnia can be a cruel mistress"
I've had it for ages but getting used to only having about 5 hours a night  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Come do my oil change in my kia and while you are at it, check the tires' pressure. Then you could polish my shoes and I'd make love to you for 1 minutes and 12 seconds. "
Hmm as intriguing as that sounds, I'm no grease monkey |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'm so tired but I cannot sleep at all.
Any ideas to help with sleeping problems?
If you have BBC iplayer look up a program about sleep deprivation it might help it was on Wednesday I think
Oooh thank you, I may have to watch that and see if it has any ideas. Insomnia can be a cruel mistress
I've had it for ages but getting used to only having about 5 hours a night "
I barely get that most nights  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sorry can't help. I'm an insomniac so most nights I struggle to sleep.
Apparently having a good bed time routine helps, and switching off tv, phones and laptops etc.
A hot bath and warm milk. X
I'm an insomniac too, but I can't sleep without watching something mindless. If I end up with no screens at all then my brain begins to ponder the universe.
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Yes I read to switch my brain off. Going to start is easy. It's staying asleep that's my problem x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Sorry can't help. I'm an insomniac so most nights I struggle to sleep.
Apparently having a good bed time routine helps, and switching off tv, phones and laptops etc.
A hot bath and warm milk. X
I'm an insomniac too, but I can't sleep without watching something mindless. If I end up with no screens at all then my brain begins to ponder the universe.
Yes I read to switch my brain off. Going to start is easy. It's staying asleep that's my problem x "
Reading makes it worse for me personally.
Oh my god it's the worst when you wake up six or seven times a night |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm so tired but I cannot sleep at all.
Any ideas to help with sleeping problems?
If you have BBC iplayer look up a program about sleep deprivation it might help it was on Wednesday I think
Oooh thank you, I may have to watch that and see if it has any ideas. Insomnia can be a cruel mistress
I've had it for ages but getting used to only having about 5 hours a night
I barely get that most nights "
I'm same but exertion helps |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'm so tired but I cannot sleep at all.
Any ideas to help with sleeping problems?
If you have BBC iplayer look up a program about sleep deprivation it might help it was on Wednesday I think
Oooh thank you, I may have to watch that and see if it has any ideas. Insomnia can be a cruel mistress
I've had it for ages but getting used to only having about 5 hours a night
I barely get that most nights I'm same but exertion helps "
This is why I exercise a lot and do loads of puzzle games. Whatever I can to completely drain myself. I've passed the wall though and therefore I'm like a zombie at the moment |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Lots of hard fucking 
That's the reason I was up all night haha!
Ella, did you start this thread so you could tell us that?! 
*high five for last night*"
Totally not my intention, but thanks haha! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm so tired but I cannot sleep at all.
Any ideas to help with sleeping problems? "
Something in the background with a dull noise. Fan, audio book etc. Works for me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Lots of hard fucking
That's the reason I was up all night haha!
Ella, did you start this thread so you could tell us that?!
*high five for last night*
Totally not my intention, but thanks haha! "
In all seriousness, hope you get some satisfying rest soon -- it's horrible not being able to. I find putting a radio play on from iplayer or audiobook on whilst lying in the dark sorts me out. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sorry can't help. I'm an insomniac so most nights I struggle to sleep.
Apparently having a good bed time routine helps, and switching off tv, phones and laptops etc.
A hot bath and warm milk. X
I'm an insomniac too, but I can't sleep without watching something mindless. If I end up with no screens at all then my brain begins to ponder the universe.
Yes I read to switch my brain off. Going to start is easy. It's staying asleep that's my problem x
Reading makes it worse for me personally.
Oh my god it's the worst when you wake up six or seven times a night"
Yes, I don't bother trying to sleep before midnight, then hopefully I can grab a few hours of unbroken sleep. X |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'm so tired but I cannot sleep at all.
Any ideas to help with sleeping problems?
Something in the background with a dull noise. Fan, audio book etc. Works for me. "
I have a mindless TV show in the background, can't even see the screen |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Lots of hard fucking
That's the reason I was up all night haha!
Ella, did you start this thread so you could tell us that?!
*high five for last night*
Totally not my intention, but thanks haha!
In all seriousness, hope you get some satisfying rest soon -- it's horrible not being able to. I find putting a radio play on from iplayer or audiobook on whilst lying in the dark sorts me out. "
Aaaw thank you.
Yeah having something simple in the background can help usually |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Sorry can't help. I'm an insomniac so most nights I struggle to sleep.
Apparently having a good bed time routine helps, and switching off tv, phones and laptops etc.
A hot bath and warm milk. X
I'm an insomniac too, but I can't sleep without watching something mindless. If I end up with no screens at all then my brain begins to ponder the universe.
Yes I read to switch my brain off. Going to start is easy. It's staying asleep that's my problem x
Reading makes it worse for me personally.
Oh my god it's the worst when you wake up six or seven times a night
Yes, I don't bother trying to sleep before midnight, then hopefully I can grab a few hours of unbroken sleep. X "
Same here. I usually start trying to sleep at around 2am and it takes a good few hours to even drift off.
I've only slept properly once within around two years - that was because I was stressed and my body went into shut down and I slept for fourteen hours non stop. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm in the same boat this week and put up a status last night to say I couldn't sleep.
This morning I had several suggestions to help in my inbox....not sure they would all work though! "
Sorry about that  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm so tired but I cannot sleep at all.
Any ideas to help with sleeping problems?
Something in the background with a dull noise. Fan, audio book etc. Works for me.
I have a mindless TV show in the background, can't even see the screen"
I stay in hotels a lot through work and always have a news channel on really low. Generally gets me off. So to speak! |
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By *anky_PankyWoman
over a year ago
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"Valerian root tea or tablets helps. Esp alongside a hypno sleep app x
Hmm I've never heard of that, I may have to try it"
The tea tastes vile in truth I have to add Ribena to it lol. Works better than the tablets though somehow!? |
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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago
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If you first think of you sleep as a wavelength that has peaks and toughs, it will first give you an idea of how people actually sleep. Your body is naturally programmed to go to sleep at a certain time. This is a time when you will begin to feel sluggish or at rest - and when you should make the move to pull the duvet up and sleep.
Once you have a good sleep routine and recognise when you're feeling rested or wanting to turn off is when you should start to turn off lights, go to bed, put away computers etc. people suggest reading a book but if you read on line then do that, either way, so long as it is within this period you'll find it easier to turn it off within 15 odd mins.
After that you should be able to put your head down and go to sleep. If you stay awake after this period you will hit a peak cycle where you're body will become slightly more energised and it'll be harder to rest - harder to sleep.
You need to hit the sleep cycle in a trough, when you're sluggish for more relaxing rest - it'll feel more refreshing and waking up will have you feel as if you have gone through a sleep cycle, waking on a natural peak. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Valerian root tea or tablets helps. Esp alongside a hypno sleep app x
Hmm I've never heard of that, I may have to try it
The tea tastes vile in truth I have to add Ribena to it lol. Works better than the tablets though somehow!? "
Tablets usually have a lot of other stuff in them whereas tea is all natural |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"No tv, phone etc 2 hours before bed.
blue light is the devil "
I usually have to have something playing in the background so I put on something mindless in the background and make sure the brightness is turned right down |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"If you first think of you sleep as a wavelength that has peaks and toughs, it will first give you an idea of how people actually sleep. Your body is naturally programmed to go to sleep at a certain time. This is a time when you will begin to feel sluggish or at rest - and when you should make the move to pull the duvet up and sleep.
Once you have a good sleep routine and recognise when you're feeling rested or wanting to turn off is when you should start to turn off lights, go to bed, put away computers etc. people suggest reading a book but if you read on line then do that, either way, so long as it is within this period you'll find it easier to turn it off within 15 odd mins.
After that you should be able to put your head down and go to sleep. If you stay awake after this period you will hit a peak cycle where you're body will become slightly more energised and it'll be harder to rest - harder to sleep.
You need to hit the sleep cycle in a trough, when you're sluggish for more relaxing rest - it'll feel more refreshing and waking up will have you feel as if you have gone through a sleep cycle, waking on a natural peak. "
That's the problem. I go to bed at 2am pretty much every night unless I'm out (Which isn't too often) but I can't ever sleep, it takes me hours.
I make sure that I don't eat for four hours before I sleep, I don't eat too much sugar, only have caffeine on a rare occasion but still I am faced with insomnia. My diet is healthy as it can be. Ever since I turned vegetarian though it's gotten worse, almost as if I have too much energy. |
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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago
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"If you first think of you sleep as a wavelength that has peaks and toughs, it will first give you an idea of how people actually sleep. Your body is naturally programmed to go to sleep at a certain time. This is a time when you will begin to feel sluggish or at rest - and when you should make the move to pull the duvet up and sleep.
Once you have a good sleep routine and recognise when you're feeling rested or wanting to turn off is when you should start to turn off lights, go to bed, put away computers etc. people suggest reading a book but if you read on line then do that, either way, so long as it is within this period you'll find it easier to turn it off within 15 odd mins.
After that you should be able to put your head down and go to sleep. If you stay awake after this period you will hit a peak cycle where you're body will become slightly more energised and it'll be harder to rest - harder to sleep.
You need to hit the sleep cycle in a trough, when you're sluggish for more relaxing rest - it'll feel more refreshing and waking up will have you feel as if you have gone through a sleep cycle, waking on a natural peak.
That's the problem. I go to bed at 2am pretty much every night unless I'm out (Which isn't too often) but I can't ever sleep, it takes me hours.
I make sure that I don't eat for four hours before I sleep, I don't eat too much sugar, only have caffeine on a rare occasion but still I am faced with insomnia. My diet is healthy as it can be. Ever since I turned vegetarian though it's gotten worse, almost as if I have too much energy."
It is likely you are in a peak, you are probably due to go to sleep around 10:30 11. Though it'll feel absolutely unnatural. I used to do it and sleep terribly, some times not at all but after someone explained basic sleep hygiene it falls into place quite well and you can work out when you are feeling drowsy. You are not hyped are the time, and only sluggish at 2am. You are likely drowsy around 10:30 like everyone else but want to finish of a TV show, grab some toast, finish off something you should have done earlier or distract yourself from going to bed. It might be a little later but there will be a rise and fall in energy - it's where dreams and deeper REM come into play. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"If you first think of you sleep as a wavelength that has peaks and toughs, it will first give you an idea of how people actually sleep. Your body is naturally programmed to go to sleep at a certain time. This is a time when you will begin to feel sluggish or at rest - and when you should make the move to pull the duvet up and sleep.
Once you have a good sleep routine and recognise when you're feeling rested or wanting to turn off is when you should start to turn off lights, go to bed, put away computers etc. people suggest reading a book but if you read on line then do that, either way, so long as it is within this period you'll find it easier to turn it off within 15 odd mins.
After that you should be able to put your head down and go to sleep. If you stay awake after this period you will hit a peak cycle where you're body will become slightly more energised and it'll be harder to rest - harder to sleep.
You need to hit the sleep cycle in a trough, when you're sluggish for more relaxing rest - it'll feel more refreshing and waking up will have you feel as if you have gone through a sleep cycle, waking on a natural peak.
That's the problem. I go to bed at 2am pretty much every night unless I'm out (Which isn't too often) but I can't ever sleep, it takes me hours.
I make sure that I don't eat for four hours before I sleep, I don't eat too much sugar, only have caffeine on a rare occasion but still I am faced with insomnia. My diet is healthy as it can be. Ever since I turned vegetarian though it's gotten worse, almost as if I have too much energy.
It is likely you are in a peak, you are probably due to go to sleep around 10:30 11. Though it'll feel absolutely unnatural. I used to do it and sleep terribly, some times not at all but after someone explained basic sleep hygiene it falls into place quite well and you can work out when you are feeling drowsy. You are not hyped are the time, and only sluggish at 2am. You are likely drowsy around 10:30 like everyone else but want to finish of a TV show, grab some toast, finish off something you should have done earlier or distract yourself from going to bed. It might be a little later but there will be a rise and fall in energy - it's where dreams and deeper REM come into play. "
Not at all...at 10:30 I am still fully active. I only tend to settle at around midnight and I begin to feel tired at around 2pm. I get sluggish at 4am after I have been trying for two hours already to sleep after having been tired.
I don't think you understand how insomnia fully works - it's not down to peaks, it's down to an inability to relax the focus in the body and mind in order to either fall asleep or remain asleep. It's a hereditary incapability meaning it doesn't fall under what you call sleep hygeine, but technically a psychological and physical illness. |
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Restrict artificial light from lights, computer screens, phone's etc, the closer you get to bedtime - blue light frequencies within white light disrupts hormone levels needed for sleep initiation and maintenance.
If you've got a major deficit, also ensure that you are getting plenty of rest and consider lighter, nourishing food for a couple of days. |
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I worked irregular shifts for over 30 years and slept for not many in each 24hrs. When I switched to normal hours I looked forward to a regular sleep pattern but I just can't get into it. I haven't had a full nights sleep in 3 years. I'm up at least 3 times through the night and sometimes don't get back to sleep at all. Not good. |
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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago
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Not at all...at 10:30 I am still fully active. I only tend to settle at around midnight and I begin to feel tired at around 2pm. I get sluggish at 4am after I have been trying for two hours already to sleep after having been tired.
I don't think you understand how insomnia fully works - it's not down to peaks, it's down to an inability to relax the focus in the body and mind in order to either fall asleep or remain asleep. It's a hereditary incapability meaning it doesn't fall under what you call sleep hygeine, but technically a psychological and physical illness."
Look up Michel Siffre, he inadvertently discovered humans have natural sleep cycles whilst he was living in isolation in caves.
Essentially he found that despite no human contact, no access to time or natural light, he would eat at the same time, wash and sleep at the same time and for a usual length of time.
Whilst you have insomnia, it is also partly habitual. What you do during the day will affect when, how and your quality of sleep. As a usual, people start to wind down after 6pm: people wouldn't go to the gym, eat sugary foods, go to a club, have stressful conversations or start complex work but get into a slower routine. That what you are doing at 10 should probably have been focused on much earlier in the day. I used to be very much a night owl though changing routine does help adjust clocks to a more natural sleep pattern (some pointers have been mentioned by others) The above are basic changes you can make to your psychology or physical sleep pattern. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Not at all...at 10:30 I am still fully active. I only tend to settle at around midnight and I begin to feel tired at around 2pm. I get sluggish at 4am after I have been trying for two hours already to sleep after having been tired.
I don't think you understand how insomnia fully works - it's not down to peaks, it's down to an inability to relax the focus in the body and mind in order to either fall asleep or remain asleep. It's a hereditary incapability meaning it doesn't fall under what you call sleep hygeine, but technically a psychological and physical illness.
Look up Michel Siffre, he inadvertently discovered humans have natural sleep cycles whilst he was living in isolation in caves.
Essentially he found that despite no human contact, no access to time or natural light, he would eat at the same time, wash and sleep at the same time and for a usual length of time.
Whilst you have insomnia, it is also partly habitual. What you do during the day will affect when, how and your quality of sleep. As a usual, people start to wind down after 6pm: people wouldn't go to the gym, eat sugary foods, go to a club, have stressful conversations or start complex work but get into a slower routine. That what you are doing at 10 should probably have been focused on much earlier in the day. I used to be very much a night owl though changing routine does help adjust clocks to a more natural sleep pattern (some pointers have been mentioned by others) The above are basic changes you can make to your psychology or physical sleep pattern. "
Human sleep cycles naturally follow the light so we awake with the sunrise and begin to fall asleep at dusk. Artificial light is what has prohibits this sleeping cycle.
As I said, insomnia isn't being a night owl. It isn't something that can be fixed by regulating sleeping patterns. Trust me, I have countless medical professionals working with me to try and help as I have been this way my entire life. My ECG's show that my brain is overactive so when I try and shut it off in order to sleep, it's still overly active, and when I am sleeping it is eight times more active than the average person.
Thank you for your advice, but anything like trying to regulate a sleeping pattern doesn't work. I have already said what I do to try and regulate but it just doesn't work at all. |
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"My gp said to cut down on caffine and not to drink it after 6pm as it is a stimulent and will keep you awake.."
I occasionally have a cup of coffee in the morning, but that is rare. I don't have caffeine in my diet because I've been this way my entire life. |
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"I've not read the entire thread so apologies if already mentioned but have you tried meditation?"
I live by meditation and yoga, but unfortunately meditation doesn't help me sleep. That is a very good piece of advice though, thank you! |
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"I've not read the entire thread so apologies if already mentioned but have you tried meditation?
I live by meditation and yoga, but unfortunately meditation doesn't help me sleep. That is a very good piece of advice though, thank you!"
Back to plan B then a sexual exhaustion  .
Just start and finish earlier  |
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"I've not read the entire thread so apologies if already mentioned but have you tried meditation?
I live by meditation and yoga, but unfortunately meditation doesn't help me sleep. That is a very good piece of advice though, thank you!
Back to plan B then a sexual exhaustion .
Just start and finish earlier "
Haha! Sex is the reason I haven't slept in two days |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've not read the entire thread so apologies if already mentioned but have you tried meditation?
I live by meditation and yoga, but unfortunately meditation doesn't help me sleep. That is a very good piece of advice though, thank you!
Back to plan B then a sexual exhaustion .
Just start and finish earlier
Haha! Sex is the reason I haven't slept in two days "
Lol, I wish but I think trying to wake the Mrs now to suggest something similar would end badly  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I've not read the entire thread so apologies if already mentioned but have you tried meditation?
I live by meditation and yoga, but unfortunately meditation doesn't help me sleep. That is a very good piece of advice though, thank you!
Back to plan B then a sexual exhaustion .
Just start and finish earlier
Haha! Sex is the reason I haven't slept in two days
Lol, I wish but I think trying to wake the Mrs now to suggest something similar would end badly "
Yeah I wouldn't recommend that at all |
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"I'm so tired but I cannot sleep at all.
Any ideas to help with sleeping problems?
https://youtu.be/UqLzR7gLQmw
Try Jody."
These don't usually work either...maybe I'm not human haha |
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Try concentrating on your breathing. Controlled steady breaths to help clear your mind. Then a radio or tv documentary, just enough to half listen to and stop your brain whirring.the second you want to stay awake to listen to the rest you'll fall asleep.
Good luck. |
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"Try concentrating on your breathing. Controlled steady breaths to help clear your mind. Then a radio or tv documentary, just enough to half listen to and stop your brain whirring.the second you want to stay awake to listen to the rest you'll fall asleep.
Good luck."
This may sound so weird, but if I focus on my breathing, my brain starts to panic that I'm not breathing enough and then I can't breathe.
Nothing stops my brain, that's the problem |
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"Try concentrating on your breathing. Controlled steady breaths to help clear your mind. Then a radio or tv documentary, just enough to half listen to and stop your brain whirring.the second you want to stay awake to listen to the rest you'll fall asleep.
Good luck.
This may sound so weird, but if I focus on my breathing, my brain starts to panic that I'm not breathing enough and then I can't breathe.
Nothing stops my brain, that's the problem"
Know that feeling. I think about work, home, world problems.. just 2 or 3 breaths just to realise you've Ben hyperventilating. 1 big sigh then let whatever pop into your head. Just let it and say to yourself I will sort that tomorrow. You can't do anything tonight. That or play with yourself until you pass out |
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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago
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"I'm so tired but I cannot sleep at all.
Any ideas to help with sleeping problems?
If you have BBC iplayer look up a program about sleep deprivation it might help it was on Wednesday I think
Oooh thank you, I may have to watch that and see if it has any ideas. Insomnia can be a cruel mistress"
If you haven't watched this it's worth watching. The Truth about Sleep, available for 28 days from the 11th May on Iplayer. If you're having problems, it does have some interesting stuff in. |
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