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"Is there many muslims on here? And if so do you find fabs conflicting at all with your religion?" Probably no more than other religions. Most promote monogamy  | |||
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"Is there many muslims on here? And if so do you find fabs conflicting at all with your religion? Probably no more than other religions. Most promote monogamy " | |||
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"Is there many muslims on here? And if so do you find fabs conflicting at all with your religion? Probably no more than other religions. Most promote monogamy "this.. | |||
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"Is there many muslims on here? And if so do you find fabs conflicting at all with your religion?" A bit of a silly question that seems more of a statement to me | |||
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"I dont get the question. Dont think catholics are shit hot about swinging" Considering the churches stance on contraception, even the single guys get it in the neck. | |||
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"I don't think my catholic upbringing is conducive to swinging " Mine neither  | |||
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"I think only Wicca and Thelema condone sexy times within religion, so you might want to direct that OP to all book religions. " Infact was trying to learn a bit more about Islam think I'll keep it how it is thanks for your input though | |||
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"I think only Wicca and Thelema condone sexy times within religion, so you might want to direct that OP to all book religions. Infact was trying to learn a bit more about Islam think I'll keep it how it is thanks for your input though "As with all religious groups, most of the victims tend not to adhere totally to all the rules. They choose which rules they like and ignore the rest. Islam and Muslims are no different to any others. | |||
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"I think only Wicca and Thelema condone sexy times within religion, so you might want to direct that OP to all book religions. Infact was trying to learn a bit more about Islam think I'll keep it how it is thanks for your input though "I'm not sure a swinging site is the place to investigate Muslim scripture, but you do you. | |||
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"I think only Wicca and Thelema condone sexy times within religion, so you might want to direct that OP to all book religions. Infact was trying to learn a bit more about Islam think I'll keep it how it is thanks for your input though
I'm not sure a swinging site is the place to investigate Muslim scripture, but you do you."I think you'll find that mainstream Islamic teaching promotes chastity before marriage and condemns adultery just like most other organised religions. There are a few Muslims on here who probably either are not strictly practising or who view religion as a guideline as opposed to a set in stone rulebook and choose to use their own personal morality and judgement. You'll also find that (akin to all other religious texts) there is very little of the Koran devoted to extra marital relations as Islam (and other religions) are about far more than just sex. | |||
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On a more serious note, I find it amazing that in this world we live in, some people are judged and labelled and accused by the one thing that can never be proven or measu_ed. Even if I stand before you and profess till the end of days that I am of a certain religion, I dress, act, pray, eat, terrorise or love in that religion's "alleged" manner. Still, there is no measure to what's inside me. Ever.
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"I grew up Muslim, look at me now!!!!!!!! Procrastinating the writing of my book, Koran to Korupted
On a more serious note, I find it amazing that in this world we live in, some people are judged and labelled and accused by the one thing that can never be proven or measu_ed. Even if I stand before you and profess till the end of days that I am of a certain religion, I dress, act, pray, eat, terrorise or love in that religion's "alleged" manner. Still, there is no measure to what's inside me. Ever.
Peace. "Side note... Your 4th April bum pic. Oh my. | |||
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"I grew up Muslim, look at me now!!!!!!!! Procrastinating the writing of my book, Koran to Korupted
On a more serious note, I find it amazing that in this world we live in, some people are judged and labelled and accused by the one thing that can never be proven or measu_ed. Even if I stand before you and profess till the end of days that I am of a certain religion, I dress, act, pray, eat, terrorise or love in that religion's "alleged" manner. Still, there is no measure to what's inside me. Ever.
Peace.
Side note... Your 4th April bum pic. Oh my. "Side note noted | |||
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"I think only Wicca and Thelema condone sexy times within religion, so you might want to direct that OP to all book religions. Infact was trying to learn a bit more about Islam think I'll keep it how it is thanks for your input though "Google is ur friend  | |||
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"I grew up Muslim, look at me now!!!!!!!! Procrastinating the writing of my book, Koran to Korupted
On a more serious note, I find it amazing that in this world we live in, some people are judged and labelled and accused by the one thing that can never be proven or measu_ed. Even if I stand before you and profess till the end of days that I am of a certain religion, I dress, act, pray, eat, terrorise or love in that religion's "alleged" manner. Still, there is no measure to what's inside me. Ever.
Peace.
Side note... Your 4th April bum pic. Oh my.
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"I don't think my catholic upbringing is conducive to swinging Mine neither "Oh well I'll just go to confession  | |||
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"Another Muslim, here. I can't recall anything specifically anti-swinging in the Quran. That's good enough for me. Nothing in there promoting terrorism, either, but that sounds like it's less fun and more risky, so as far as hobbies are concerned, I'll stick to this..." | |||
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"Another Muslim, here. I can't recall anything specifically anti-swinging in the Quran. That's good enough for me. Nothing in there promoting terrorism, either, but that sounds like it's less fun and more risky, so as far as hobbies are concerned, I'll stick to this..." Oooooooofft, excuse me miss you just dropped something........ My jaw fs.  | |||
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"Another Muslim, here. I can't recall anything specifically anti-swinging in the Quran. That's good enough for me. Nothing in there promoting terrorism, either, but that sounds like it's less fun and more risky, so as far as hobbies are concerned, I'll stick to this..." Send me Vag pics | |||
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"That's the funky thing about most religions. They are designed to make you rebel and have sex and make more babies so the amount of followers grow. They are against contraception for that reason. Basic demographics. The marraige thing is just a technicality to decide who goes to heaven or hell for the dirty deed. I was thinkin of changin my name to Fakhir only the other day." Durty Fakhir sounds better. | |||
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"As a lot of others have said no religion would take kindly to swingers. In fact it's mainly only swingers that agree with what swingers do. What was the point in this question. " I asked if being on fab conflicted with their religion, care to answer? | |||
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"Another Muslim, here. I can't recall anything specifically anti-swinging in the Quran. That's good enough for me. Nothing in there promoting terrorism, either, but that sounds like it's less fun and more risky, so as far as hobbies are concerned, I'll stick to this..." What ?? Are you serious ? It's a horror story of humanity. | |||
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"I grew up Muslim, look at me now!!!!!!!! Peace. " It would have been very rude not to, after such a generous invite. | |||
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"Another Muslim, here. I can't recall anything specifically anti-swinging in the Quran. That's good enough for me. Nothing in there promoting terrorism, either, but that sounds like it's less fun and more risky, so as far as hobbies are concerned, I'll stick to this... What ?? Are you serious ? It's a horror story of humanity. " No need | |||
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"I dont get the question. Dont think catholics are shit hot about swinging" Is a Catholic  | |||
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"Another Muslim, here. I can't recall anything specifically anti-swinging in the Quran. That's good enough for me. Nothing in there promoting terrorism, either, but that sounds like it's less fun and more risky, so as far as hobbies are concerned, I'll stick to this..." I'm now going to imagine every woman in a burka is like you beneath  | |||
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"Another Muslim, here. I can't recall anything specifically anti-swinging in the Quran. That's good enough for me. Nothing in there promoting terrorism, either, but that sounds like it's less fun and more risky, so as far as hobbies are concerned, I'll stick to this..." To be fair the Bible actively promotes terrorism (or conversion as it is euphemistically called..see the crusades and great parts of the old testament for details) By comparison your Qur'an is a fairly gentle read full of whimsy and light. Hence when you go to islamic countries people tend to be entirely lovely and kind whereas when you go to Christian countries people are selfish and self serving. | |||
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"I don't think my catholic upbringing is conducive to swinging " Catholics love it that's why they invented all boy choirs for the vicar's | |||
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"Another Muslim, here. I can't recall anything specifically anti-swinging in the Quran. That's good enough for me. Nothing in there promoting terrorism, either, but that sounds like it's less fun and more risky, so as far as hobbies are concerned, I'll stick to this... What ?? Are you serious ? It's a horror story of humanity. " Am I serious? Oh dear..... | |||
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"Well if I've learnt one thing on this thread, it's that Cleotastic is back on the site albeit under a slightly different name! That's my year made up anyway! "Bless you, my son. Now climb under my burka.... | |||
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"Another Muslim, here. I can't recall anything specifically anti-swinging in the Quran. That's good enough for me. Nothing in there promoting terrorism, either, but that sounds like it's less fun and more risky, so as far as hobbies are concerned, I'll stick to this... To be fair the Bible actively promotes terrorism (or conversion as it is euphemistically called..see the crusades and great parts of the old testament for details) By comparison your Qur'an is a fairly gentle read full of whimsy and light. Hence when you go to islamic countries people tend to be entirely lovely and kind whereas when you go to Christian countries people are selfish and self serving." Oh my God! What a lovely and enlightened post! You've no idea how much prejudice the news engenders. Well, you probably have... Thank you for being awesome. | |||
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"Another Muslim, here. I can't recall anything specifically anti-swinging in the Quran. That's good enough for me. Nothing in there promoting terrorism, either, but that sounds like it's less fun and more risky, so as far as hobbies are concerned, I'll stick to this... To be fair the Bible actively promotes terrorism (or conversion as it is euphemistically called..see the crusades and great parts of the old testament for details) By comparison your Qur'an is a fairly gentle read full of whimsy and light. Hence when you go to islamic countries people tend to be entirely lovely and kind whereas when you go to Christian countries people are selfish and self serving. Oh my God! What a lovely and enlightened post! You've no idea how much prejudice the news engenders. Well, you probably have... Thank you for being awesome." The news is never going to give a truly balanced account of the world. It highlights the sensational and the dramatic. The majority who are just going about their lives are not 'news'. Just look at the effect the news has on our perception of Asperger people. You only hear of them when they're hacking into government agency systems or downloading bomb making information. | |||
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" Has been banned for years ( just been allowed back ) because we commented on threads about Islam . Be careful fellow fabbers freedom to insult religion exists in the UK but choose wisely on Fabswingers." You mistake freedom of expression for 'freedom to insult', which isn't quite the same thing; one exists, the other can quickly lead to hate speech, which can result in legal problems under the European Convention on Human Rights for websites that provide user forums. Hence, if you behave like a bigoted fuckwit, you're likely to get banned. If the cap fits... | |||
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" Has been banned for years ( just been allowed back ) because we commented on threads about Islam . Be careful fellow fabbers freedom to insult religion exists in the UK but choose wisely on Fabswingers. You mistake freedom of expression for 'freedom to insult', which isn't quite the same thing; one exists, the other can quickly lead to hate speech, which can result in legal problems under the European Convention on Human Rights for websites that provide user forums. Hence, if you behave like a bigoted fuckwit, you're likely to get banned. If the cap fits... " Bravo! | |||
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" .... view religion as a guideline as opposed to a set in stone rulebook and choose to use their own personal morality and judgement. "
As how I practice it. Thank you. Very concise.
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" Has been banned for years ( just been allowed back ) because we commented on threads about Islam . Be careful fellow fabbers freedom to insult religion exists in the UK but choose wisely on Fabswingers. You mistake freedom of expression for 'freedom to insult', which isn't quite the same thing; one exists, the other can quickly lead to hate speech, which can result in legal problems under the European Convention on Human Rights for websites that provide user forums. Hence, if you behave like a bigoted fuckwit, you're likely to get banned. If the cap fits... Bravo!" I don't think they'll be bothe_ed though. Ignorance, bigotry and hat_ed is so ingrained into some people that rational discussion and/or explanation is futile. | |||
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"I guess it depends on how staunch anyone is on their religious beliefs (whatever their religion). I'm not sure Swinging is compatible with any of the major religions if someone is truly devout in their faith. " True, maybe Islam is worth singling out for this question as those close to a swinger would probably react more strongly to the news of what their friend or relative was up to than in other religion. You're right though, whichever book has the answers, all us Fabbers are definitely going to Hell. Presumably to spend eternity wearing chastity belts, lol. | |||
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 . I don't see the point to these threads at all, they serve no fucking purpose and are p_edictable as fuck. Same with any religious thread. | |||
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"I guess it depends on how staunch anyone is on their religious beliefs (whatever their religion). I'm not sure Swinging is compatible with any of the major religions if someone is truly devout in their faith. True, maybe Islam is worth singling out for this question as those close to a swinger would probably react more strongly to the news of what their friend or relative was up to than in other religion. You're right though, whichever book has the answers, all us Fabbers are definitely going to Hell. Presumably to spend eternity wearing chastity belts, lol." I don't want to go to heaven. I won't know anyone there. I'll go where the fun people go please | |||
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"I think only Wicca and Thelema condone sexy times within religion, so you might want to direct that OP to all book religions. Infact was trying to learn a bit more about Islam think I'll keep it how it is thanks for your input though "Probably better ways t learn about muslims than the qquestion posed in your opening question. If you are serious get out in your local communities and speak ti people, it's really that simple | |||
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" Has been banned for years ( just been allowed back ) because we commented on threads about Islam . Be careful fellow fabbers freedom to insult religion exists in the UK but choose wisely on Fabswingers." I guess the ban was down to how you said it rather then what you said | |||
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"I don't think my catholic upbringing is conducive to swinging " . No its perfectly OK so long as you repent on Sunday | |||
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"God forbid islam should ever be mentioned in a sentence without calling it peaceful . I don't see the point to these threads at all, they serve no fucking purpose and are p_edictable as fuck. Same with any religious thread."Indeed? Thank you. I shall stick to threads which are unp_edictable and have true purpose, in future. 'Tits-Out Tuesday' and 'What U havin 4 lunch?', here I come! | |||
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"I grew up Muslim, look at me now!!!!!!!! Procrastinating the writing of my book, Koran to Korupted
On a more serious note, I find it amazing that in this world we live in, some people are judged and labelled and accused by the one thing that can never be proven or measu_ed. Even if I stand before you and profess till the end of days that I am of a certain religion, I dress, act, pray, eat, terrorise or love in that religion's "alleged" manner. Still, there is no measure to what's inside me. Ever.
Peace. " | |||
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"Is there many muslims on here? And if so do you find fabs conflicting at all with your religion?" I'm a muslim, but don't really get the purpose of the question/statement? Religion and sexual preference is in my eyes two separate things... | |||
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"Another Muslim, here. I can't recall anything specifically anti-swinging in the Quran. That's good enough for me. Nothing in there promoting terrorism, either, but that sounds like it's less fun and more risky, so as far as hobbies are concerned, I'll stick to this..." . I'm a Muslim as well and I eat sausages, swing and get pissed , usually all at the same time as well .
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"And I never bother with Ramadan or that stupid pilgrimage to meccano, I'm considering the burkini though, sexy" Gasp! Haram! Jihad on your name, you western dog! (Takes another bite of bacon sandwich....) | |||
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"And I never bother with Ramadan or that stupid pilgrimage to meccano, I'm considering the burkini though, sexy Gasp! Haram! Jihad on your name, you western dog! (Takes another bite of bacon sandwich....)" . Id considering swapping to Scientology but it sounds a bit far fetched with all that returning comets and all | |||
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"And I never bother with Ramadan or that stupid pilgrimage to meccano, I'm considering the burkini though, sexy Gasp! Haram! Jihad on your name, you western dog! (Takes another bite of bacon sandwich....). Id considering swapping to Scientology but it sounds a bit far fetched with all that returning comets and all" Mm. Tom Cruise certainly isn't doing the recruitment drive any favours, either..... | |||
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"And I never bother with Ramadan or that stupid pilgrimage to meccano, I'm considering the burkini though, sexy Gasp! Haram! Jihad on your name, you western dog! (Takes another bite of bacon sandwich....). Id considering swapping to Scientology but it sounds a bit far fetched with all that returning comets and all Mm. Tom Cruise certainly isn't doing the recruitment drive any favours, either....." Become a Fab-ian, and worship the sex | |||
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" Has been banned for years ( just been allowed back ) because we commented on threads about Islam . Be careful fellow fabbers freedom to insult religion exists in the UK but choose wisely on Fabswingers." Because it is political correctness | |||
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" Has been banned for years ( just been allowed back ) because we commented on threads about Islam . Be careful fellow fabbers freedom to insult religion exists in the UK but choose wisely on Fabswingers. You mistake freedom of expression for 'freedom to insult', which isn't quite the same thing; one exists, the other can quickly lead to hate speech, which can result in legal problems under the European Convention on Human Rights for websites that provide user forums. Hence, if you behave like a bigoted fuckwit, you're likely to get banned. If the cap fits... Bravo!" You can't be Muslim lf you are you are breaking lslamic laws. Muslim women are forbidden from marrying and dating any other men apart from Muslim men and you caoonot have sex outside of marriage (an exeption is Halala marriages in Shia.) Muslim men can marry upto 4 wives and from the Ahle Qitab (people of the Book - Jews, Samaritans and Christians)but you are forbidden. (2:221) “Do not marry unbelieving women (idolaters), until they believe: A slave woman who believes is better than an unbelieving woman, even though she allures you. Nor marry (your girls) to unbelievers until they believe: A man slave who believes is better than an unbeliever, even though he allures you.” (5:5) “Lawful unto you in marriage are chaste women who are believers and chaste women among the Ahlul Kitab (people of the book).” So either you are a Western convert who gets her infomations about Islam from the Guardian newspaper and and not the Qu'ran or Hadith or you are aware of these laws and are breaking them with fore knowledge. Either way leads to damnation in the Islamic faith. | |||
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"Another Muslim, here. I can't recall anything specifically anti-swinging in the Quran. That's good enough for me. Nothing in there promoting terrorism, either, but that sounds like it's less fun and more risky, so as far as hobbies are concerned, I'll stick to this.... I'm a Muslim as well and I eat sausages, swing and get pissed , usually all at the same time as well .
"How are you a Muslim then? Islam literally translates as ''Submission.'' Christians only need to believe that the Nazarene saved their souls on the cross. That is the only criteria. Islam is mainly a religion of Law, and not faith.. | |||
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"And I never bother with Ramadan or that stupid pilgrimage to meccano, I'm considering the burkini though, sexy Gasp! Haram! Jihad on your name, you western dog! (Takes another bite of bacon sandwich....). Id considering swapping to Scientology but it sounds a bit far fetched with all that returning comets and all Mm. Tom Cruise certainly isn't doing the recruitment drive any favours, either....." . Yeah they should be more selective, Gobbles was a Catholic for crying out loud and they only expelled him for getting divorced!. I mean torturing and murdering in the name of Catholicism is ok but letting torturers and murderers join us just too much | |||
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"Is there many muslims on here? And if so do you find fabs conflicting at all with your religion?" Are there many Muslims here? I don't know or care. | |||
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"Another Muslim, here. I can't recall anything specifically anti-swinging in the Quran. That's good enough for me. Nothing in there promoting terrorism, either, but that sounds like it's less fun and more risky, so as far as hobbies are concerned, I'll stick to this.... I'm a Muslim as well and I eat sausages, swing and get pissed , usually all at the same time as well .
How are you a Muslim then? Islam literally translates as ''Submission.''
Christians only need to believe that the Nazarene saved their souls on the cross. That is the only criteria. Islam is mainly a religion of Law, and not faith..". Are you denying my right to be a Muslim! | |||
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"Another Muslim, here. I can't recall anything specifically anti-swinging in the Quran. That's good enough for me. Nothing in there promoting terrorism, either, but that sounds like it's less fun and more risky, so as far as hobbies are concerned, I'll stick to this.... I'm a Muslim as well and I eat sausages, swing and get pissed , usually all at the same time as well .
How are you a Muslim then? Islam literally translates as ''Submission.''
Christians only need to believe that the Nazarene saved their souls on the cross. That is the only criteria. Islam is mainly a religion of Law, and not faith...
Are you denying my right to be a Muslim!"Your right is your right. l'm just wondering how you are a Muslim in any sense if you actually consciously break Islamic laws. lt's like saying you are a Christian but you don't think Jesus is the Messiah. | |||
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"I guess it depends on how staunch anyone is on their religious beliefs (whatever their religion). I'm not sure Swinging is compatible with any of the major religions if someone is truly devout in their faith. " | |||
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" Has been banned for years ( just been allowed back ) because we commented on threads about Islam . Be careful fellow fabbers freedom to insult religion exists in the UK but choose wisely on Fabswingers. You mistake freedom of expression for 'freedom to insult', which isn't quite the same thing; one exists, the other can quickly lead to hate speech, which can result in legal problems under the European Convention on Human Rights for websites that provide user forums. Hence, if you behave like a bigoted fuckwit, you're likely to get banned. If the cap fits... Bravo! You can't be Muslim lf you are you are breaking lslamic laws. Muslim women are forbidden from marrying and dating any other men apart from Muslim men and you caoonot have sex outside of marriage (an exeption is Halala marriages in Shia.) Muslim men can marry upto 4 wives and from the Ahle Qitab (people of the Book - Jews, Samaritans and Christians)but you are forbidden. (2:221) “Do not marry unbelieving women (idolaters), until they believe: A slave woman who believes is better than an unbelieving woman, even though she allures you. Nor marry (your girls) to unbelievers until they believe: A man slave who believes is better than an unbeliever, even though he allures you.” (5:5) “Lawful unto you in marriage are chaste women who are believers and chaste women among the Ahlul Kitab (people of the book).” So either you are a Western convert who gets her infomations about Islam from the Guardian newspaper and and not the Qu'ran or Hadith or you are aware of these laws and are breaking them with fore knowledge. Either way leads to damnation in the Islamic faith. " Until "God" opens up the heavens and tells us exactly what he/she/it means in these passages, it's all personal interpretation. As I mentioned before, you can have the greatest Imam standing next to a naked swinger in a hot tub and you still can't prove who has more "faith" than the other. | |||
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" Has been banned for years ( just been allowed back ) because we commented on threads about Islam . Be careful fellow fabbers freedom to insult religion exists in the UK but choose wisely on Fabswingers. You mistake freedom of expression for 'freedom to insult', which isn't quite the same thing; one exists, the other can quickly lead to hate speech, which can result in legal problems under the European Convention on Human Rights for websites that provide user forums. Hence, if you behave like a bigoted fuckwit, you're likely to get banned. If the cap fits... Bravo! You can't be Muslim lf you are you are breaking lslamic laws. Muslim women are forbidden from marrying and dating any other men apart from Muslim men and you caoonot have sex outside of marriage (an exeption is Halala marriages in Shia.) Muslim men can marry upto 4 wives and from the Ahle Qitab (people of the Book - Jews, Samaritans and Christians)but you are forbidden. (2:221) “Do not marry unbelieving women (idolaters), until they believe: A slave woman who believes is better than an unbelieving woman, even though she allures you. Nor marry (your girls) to unbelievers until they believe: A man slave who believes is better than an unbeliever, even though he allures you.” (5:5) “Lawful unto you in marriage are chaste women who are believers and chaste women among the Ahlul Kitab (people of the book).” So either you are a Western convert who gets her infomations about Islam from the Guardian newspaper and and not the Qu'ran or Hadith or you are aware of these laws and are breaking them with fore knowledge. Either way leads to damnation in the Islamic faith. Until "God" opens up the heavens and tells us exactly what he/she/it means in these passages, it's all personal interpretation. As I mentioned before, you can have the greatest Imam standing next to a naked swinger in a hot tub and you still can't prove who has more "faith" than the other. " These aren't mysterious theological passages that are very abstract... they are firm social passages giving instruction on how to live in a certain way. These passages are dealing with everyday interaction rather than theology. Didn't you read the part it said ''lawful''. Laws aren't abstract. The Imman would have more faith. He has taken his religion more seriously and made a solid attempt to live by it. | |||
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"Another Muslim, here. I can't recall anything specifically anti-swinging in the Quran. That's good enough for me. Nothing in there promoting terrorism, either, but that sounds like it's less fun and more risky, so as far as hobbies are concerned, I'll stick to this.... I'm a Muslim as well and I eat sausages, swing and get pissed , usually all at the same time as well .
How are you a Muslim then? Islam literally translates as ''Submission.''
Christians only need to believe that the Nazarene saved their souls on the cross. That is the only criteria. Islam is mainly a religion of Law, and not faith...
Are you denying my right to be a Muslim!
Your right is your right. l'm just wondering how you are a Muslim in any sense if you actually consciously break Islamic laws.
lt's like saying you are a Christian but you don't think Jesus is the Messiah.
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"Another Muslim, here. I can't recall anything specifically anti-swinging in the Quran. That's good enough for me. Nothing in there promoting terrorism, either, but that sounds like it's less fun and more risky, so as far as hobbies are concerned, I'll stick to this.... I'm a Muslim as well and I eat sausages, swing and get pissed , usually all at the same time as well .
How are you a Muslim then? Islam literally translates as ''Submission.''
Christians only need to believe that the Nazarene saved their souls on the cross. That is the only criteria. Islam is mainly a religion of Law, and not faith...
Are you denying my right to be a Muslim!
Your right is your right. l'm just wondering how you are a Muslim in any sense if you actually consciously break Islamic laws.
lt's like saying you are a Christian but you don't think Jesus is the Messiah.
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" Until "God" opens up the heavens and tells us exactly what he/she/it means in these passages, it's all personal interpretation. As I mentioned before, you can have the greatest Imam standing next to a naked swinger in a hot tub and you still can't prove who has more "faith" than the other. These aren't mysterious theological passages that are very abstract... they are firm social passages giving instruction on how to live in a certain way. These passages are dealing with everyday interaction rather than theology. Didn't you read the part it said ''lawful''. Laws aren't abstract. " And yet there are hund_eds of "tafseers" (explanations). Even within these laws, there are differing interpretations. " The Imman would have more faith. He has taken his religion more seriously and made a solid attempt to live by it. " Im sorry, just because someone looks the part and does what appears to be necessary, how do you prove for certain what is in their hearts and minds?? It's impossible!! Religious faith cannot be measu_ed or proven! | |||
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" Has been banned for years ( just been allowed back ) because we commented on threads about Islam . Be careful fellow fabbers freedom to insult religion exists in the UK but choose wisely on Fabswingers. You mistake freedom of expression for 'freedom to insult', which isn't quite the same thing; one exists, the other can quickly lead to hate speech, which can result in legal problems under the European Convention on Human Rights for websites that provide user forums. Hence, if you behave like a bigoted fuckwit, you're likely to get banned. If the cap fits... Bravo! I don't think they'll be bothe_ed though. Ignorance, bigotry and hat_ed is so ingrained into some people that rational discussion and/or explanation is futile." Thank you for judging me so quickly and calling me a bigoted fuckwit. It's strange you call me that because when we are in a swingers club every weekend no one has said that. Still a keyboard warrior has to try eh x mwah x have fun take care x | |||
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"Religious texts written in times past cannot usually be used as a strict template for modern society. The bible states that a man isn't welcome in the kingdom of heaven if his testicles or 'privy member' are wounded or missing. So sufferers of testicular cancer or any other genital condition or accident, are doomed to eternal damnation. Does that sound reasonable to you? No. It's kind of silly. Ditto with the Quran. There are silly, outdated, obsolete bits. These texts are guides, not rigid, literal instruction manuals. People are free to identify with the faith of their choice, and not be held accountable by random strangers who cut and paste passages from holy texts. I'm not sure why you feel the need to argue and deny anyone's faith on a swinging forum, man. Just saying." People are free to believe what they want. That's not what the Qu'ran says. One of the names for the Qu'ran is ''the eternal and unwritten Qu'ran''. You aren't allowed to interpret it yourself....This is why you have the Hadith and the Commentaries.. It is explained for you. Are you seriously a Muslim? lf you are why don't you know this stuff?? l think that there are misconceptions about Islam that is dangerous. The more misinformed Westerners who claim to be Muslim but disagree with almost all Islamic beliefs. | |||
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"And I never bother with Ramadan or that stupid pilgrimage to meccano, I'm considering the burkini though, sexy Gasp! Haram! Jihad on your name, you western dog! (Takes another bite of bacon sandwich....). Id considering swapping to Scientology but it sounds a bit far fetched with all that returning comets and all" Sounds familiar!! Someone wrote a book and it caught on  | |||
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"Another Muslim, here. I can't recall anything specifically anti-swinging in the Quran. That's good enough for me. Nothing in there promoting terrorism, either, but that sounds like it's less fun and more risky, so as far as hobbies are concerned, I'll stick to this.... I'm a Muslim as well and I eat sausages, swing and get pissed , usually all at the same time as well .
How are you a Muslim then? Islam literally translates as ''Submission.''
Christians only need to believe that the Nazarene saved their souls on the cross. That is the only criteria. Islam is mainly a religion of Law, and not faith...
Are you denying my right to be a Muslim!
Your right is your right. l'm just wondering how you are a Muslim in any sense if you actually consciously break Islamic laws.
lt's like saying you are a Christian but you don't think Jesus is the Messiah.
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Well I Didnt say I was a good muslim!
but but but you can be a good person!
aside of religion you can be a good person!
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" Has been banned for years ( just been allowed back ) because we commented on threads about Islam . Be careful fellow fabbers freedom to insult religion exists in the UK but choose wisely on Fabswingers. You mistake freedom of expression for 'freedom to insult', which isn't quite the same thing; one exists, the other can quickly lead to hate speech, which can result in legal problems under the European Convention on Human Rights for websites that provide user forums. Hence, if you behave like a bigoted fuckwit, you're likely to get banned. If the cap fits... Bravo! I don't think they'll be bothe_ed though. Ignorance, bigotry and hat_ed is so ingrained into some people that rational discussion and/or explanation is futile. Thank you for judging me so quickly and calling me a bigoted fuckwit. It's strange you call me that because when we are in a swingers club every weekend no one has said that. Still a keyboard warrior has to try eh x mwah x have fun take care x " As I said, 'if the cap fits', and I'm far from a keyboard warrior. However, what going to a swingers club every week has any bearing on, is beyond me? | |||
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" Until "God" opens up the heavens and tells us exactly what he/she/it means in these passages, it's all personal interpretation. As I mentioned before, you can have the greatest Imam standing next to a naked swinger in a hot tub and you still can't prove who has more "faith" than the other. These aren't mysterious theological passages that are very abstract... they are firm social passages giving instruction on how to live in a certain way. These passages are dealing with everyday interaction rather than theology. Didn't you read the part it said ''lawful''. Laws aren't abstract. And yet there are hund_eds of "tafseers" (explanations). Even within these laws, there are differing interpretations. The Imman would have more faith. He has taken his religion more seriously and made a solid attempt to live by it. Im sorry, just because someone looks the part and does what appears to be necessary, how do you prove for certain what is in their hearts and minds?? It's impossible!! Religious faith cannot be measu_ed or proven! " *l don't know how to make the text bold to make it easier to respond to direct points. The problem with the lslamic text is the Law of Abrogation (the precedence of the youngest revelation). Many Tafseer will dispute certain revelation because it came earlier, when Mohammed was still peaceful - before he massac_ed the Banu Quraza, for example. You know that it's split into Medinan and Meccan Revelation. l wasn't talking so much about the garb the Immam would be wearing but the fact that he went to school to learn about his religion. | |||
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" Until "God" opens up the heavens and tells us exactly what he/she/it means in these passages, it's all personal interpretation. As I mentioned before, you can have the greatest Imam standing next to a naked swinger in a hot tub and you still can't prove who has more "faith" than the other. These aren't mysterious theological passages that are very abstract... they are firm social passages giving instruction on how to live in a certain way. These passages are dealing with everyday interaction rather than theology. Didn't you read the part it said ''lawful''. Laws aren't abstract. And yet there are hund_eds of "tafseers" (explanations). Even within these laws, there are differing interpretations. The Imman would have more faith. He has taken his religion more seriously and made a solid attempt to live by it. Im sorry, just because someone looks the part and does what appears to be necessary, how do you prove for certain what is in their hearts and minds?? It's impossible!! Religious faith cannot be measu_ed or proven! " Yes l agree that faith is immeasurable. Though, Salvation does not rely on Faith in Islam. Mainly Law ;like Judiasm. l do find these topics interesting. | |||
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"Religious texts written in times past cannot usually be used as a strict template for modern society. The bible states that a man isn't welcome in the kingdom of heaven if his testicles or 'privy member' are wounded or missing. So sufferers of testicular cancer or any other genital condition or accident, are doomed to eternal damnation. Does that sound reasonable to you? No. It's kind of silly. Ditto with the Quran. There are silly, outdated, obsolete bits. These texts are guides, not rigid, literal instruction manuals. People are free to identify with the faith of their choice, and not be held accountable by random strangers who cut and paste passages from holy texts. I'm not sure why you feel the need to argue and deny anyone's faith on a swinging forum, man. Just saying. People are free to believe what they want. That's not what the Qu'ran says. One of the names for the Qu'ran is ''the eternal and unwritten Qu'ran''. You aren't allowed to interpret it yourself....This is why you have the Hadith and the Commentaries.. It is explained for you. Are you seriously a Muslim? lf you are why don't you know this stuff?? l think that there are misconceptions about Islam that is dangerous. The more misinformed Westerners who claim to be Muslim but disagree with almost all Islamic beliefs. " . To be fair I want much better at being Christian and my Buddhism was piss poor! Theres way to many god's in Hinduism to be taken seriously and I'm to attached to my foreskin for being a Jew (although the tightness appeals to me). So Thats why I thought id have a whack at Islam. | |||
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"Another Muslim, here. I can't recall anything specifically anti-swinging in the Quran. That's good enough for me. Nothing in there promoting terrorism, either, but that sounds like it's less fun and more risky, so as far as hobbies are concerned, I'll stick to this.... I'm a Muslim as well and I eat sausages, swing and get pissed , usually all at the same time as well .
How are you a Muslim then? Islam literally translates as ''Submission.''
Christians only need to believe that the Nazarene saved their souls on the cross. That is the only criteria. Islam is mainly a religion of Law, and not faith...
Are you denying my right to be a Muslim!
Your right is your right. l'm just wondering how you are a Muslim in any sense if you actually consciously break Islamic laws.
lt's like saying you are a Christian but you don't think Jesus is the Messiah.
"Because all religion is made up hokum that is impossible to follow 100% accurately. Thus normal people pick and choose which nonsense they want to be limited by. It's their choice. Just like you call yourself a driver but break rules in the highway code. Doesn't mean you are no longer a driver, Just that you value certain things more than others. Thinking of things as simply black or white is a naïve approach borne of ignorance. | |||
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"Religious texts written in times past cannot usually be used as a strict template for modern society. The bible states that a man isn't welcome in the kingdom of heaven if his testicles or 'privy member' are wounded or missing. So sufferers of testicular cancer or any other genital condition or accident, are doomed to eternal damnation. Does that sound reasonable to you? No. It's kind of silly. Ditto with the Quran. There are silly, outdated, obsolete bits. These texts are guides, not rigid, literal instruction manuals. People are free to identify with the faith of their choice, and not be held accountable by random strangers who cut and paste passages from holy texts. I'm not sure why you feel the need to argue and deny anyone's faith on a swinging forum, man. Just saying. People are free to believe what they want. That's not what the Qu'ran says. One of the names for the Qu'ran is ''the eternal and unwritten Qu'ran''. You aren't allowed to interpret it yourself....This is why you have the Hadith and the Commentaries.. It is explained for you. Are you seriously a Muslim? lf you are why don't you know this stuff?? l think that there are misconceptions about Islam that is dangerous. The more misinformed Westerners who claim to be Muslim but disagree with almost all Islamic beliefs. . To be fair I want much better at being Christian and my Buddhism was piss poor! Theres way to many god's in Hinduism to be taken seriously and I'm to attached to my foreskin for being a Jew (although the tightness appeals to me). So Thats why I thought id have a whack at Islam." lf it works for you then l wish you the best. | |||
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" l wasn't talking so much about the garb the Immam would be wearing but the fact that he went to school to learn about his religion." I wasn't talking about the garb he wears either. He could have studied all his life, done hajj and omra and the lot..yet still dreams about little boys and secretly acts upon a it..him or any other religious authority. That's why my point remains, an average Joe swinger could have more faith and belief than anyone else. Just because you go to uni and study design and architecture and you're an expert, doesn't mean you give a shit about it or love it more than someone who looks at an interesting building in awe.. * just put the [ quote ] at the beginning and [ /quote ] at the end of bits you want highlighted. | |||
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"Religious texts written in times past cannot usually be used as a strict template for modern society. The bible states that a man isn't welcome in the kingdom of heaven if his testicles or 'privy member' are wounded or missing. So sufferers of testicular cancer or any other genital condition or accident, are doomed to eternal damnation. Does that sound reasonable to you? No. It's kind of silly. Ditto with the Quran. There are silly, outdated, obsolete bits. These texts are guides, not rigid, literal instruction manuals. People are free to identify with the faith of their choice, and not be held accountable by random strangers who cut and paste passages from holy texts. I'm not sure why you feel the need to argue and deny anyone's faith on a swinging forum, man. Just saying. People are free to believe what they want. That's not what the Qu'ran says. One of the names for the Qu'ran is ''the eternal and unwritten Qu'ran''. You aren't allowed to interpret it yourself....This is why you have the Hadith and the Commentaries.. It is explained for you. Are you seriously a Muslim? lf you are why don't you know this stuff?? l think that there are misconceptions about Islam that is dangerous. The more misinformed Westerners who claim to be Muslim but disagree with almost all Islamic beliefs. . To be fair I want much better at being Christian and my Buddhism was piss poor! Theres way to many god's in Hinduism to be taken seriously and I'm to attached to my foreskin for being a Jew (although the tightness appeals to me). So Thats why I thought id have a whack at Islam. lf it works for you then l wish you the best." . No I've got a rabbits foot for that!. I just this for absolution of all my sins.. Which to be honest, theres quite a bit | |||
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" Yes l agree that faith is immeasurable. Though, Salvation does not rely on Faith in Islam. Mainly Law ;like Judiasm. l do find these topics interesting." Still that's according to human interpretation..so many new sheikhs appearing (mum watches them on YouTube ) with new views and modern explanations and people choose to believe what suits the lifestyle they ultimately want. My parents are happy to believe that salvation is not just in abiding by laws. Millions agree. Millions don't. Fuck knows.
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"Another Muslim, here. I can't recall anything specifically anti-swinging in the Quran. That's good enough for me. Nothing in there promoting terrorism, either, but that sounds like it's less fun and more risky, so as far as hobbies are concerned, I'll stick to this.... I'm a Muslim as well and I eat sausages, swing and get pissed , usually all at the same time as well .
How are you a Muslim then? Islam literally translates as ''Submission.''
Christians only need to believe that the Nazarene saved their souls on the cross. That is the only criteria. Islam is mainly a religion of Law, and not faith...
Are you denying my right to be a Muslim!
Your right is your right. l'm just wondering how you are a Muslim in any sense if you actually consciously break Islamic laws.
lt's like saying you are a Christian but you don't think Jesus is the Messiah.
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Well I Didnt say I was a good muslim!
but but but you can be a good person!
aside of religion you can be a good person!
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Im as good as the next guy.
Unless its cliff Richard!!
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" Yes l agree that faith is immeasurable. Though, Salvation does not rely on Faith in Islam. Mainly Law ;like Judiasm. l do find these topics interesting. Still that's according to human interpretation..so many new sheikhs appearing (mum watches them on YouTube ) with new views and modern explanations and people choose to believe what suits the lifestyle they ultimately want. My parents are happy to believe that salvation is not just in abiding by laws. Millions agree. Millions don't. Fuck knows.
And yes, an interesting topic. Good for a first meet ice breaker? "No. l don't usually talk about politics or religion with strangers. Not as an icebreaker any way.  | |||
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"Religious texts written in times past cannot usually be used as a strict template for modern society. The bible states that a man isn't welcome in the kingdom of heaven if his testicles or 'privy member' are wounded or missing. So sufferers of testicular cancer or any other genital condition or accident, are doomed to eternal damnation. Does that sound reasonable to you? No. It's kind of silly. Ditto with the Quran. There are silly, outdated, obsolete bits. These texts are guides, not rigid, literal instruction manuals. People are free to identify with the faith of their choice, and not be held accountable by random strangers who cut and paste passages from holy texts. I'm not sure why you feel the need to argue and deny anyone's faith on a swinging forum, man. Just saying. People are free to believe what they want. That's not what the Qu'ran says. One of the names for the Qu'ran is ''the eternal and unwritten Qu'ran''. You aren't allowed to interpret it yourself....This is why you have the Hadith and the Commentaries.. It is explained for you. Are you seriously a Muslim? lf you are why don't you know this stuff?? l think that there are misconceptions about Islam that is dangerous. The more misinformed Westerners who claim to be Muslim but disagree with almost all Islamic beliefs. " I tend to think of faith as something highly personal. I don't think of God as someone who will strike me down or cast me out if I don't conform exactly to what a bunch of men wrote centuries ago. I was raised Muslim, and if I still identify as being Muslim, then I AM Muslim. I'd never tell anyone else what they are. It's up to them how they know God. The rigidity of religious texts as laws dates back to a time when religion was a conduit for control. Those times have passed. I think that your dismissal of the validity of my claim to be a Muslim, is not only offensive to me, but damaging to the way the world sees Islam. Telling me that my faith will not tolerate any deviance from ancient texts is tantamount to inciting racial hat_ed, and goodness knows, there's enough of that around, isn't there? You CAN be a Muslim and not be a fanatic. Allah and I understand each other. And my faith is a great source of comfort and strength to me. It's none of anyone else's business, frankly. | |||
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"Religious texts written in times past cannot usually be used as a strict template for modern society. The bible states that a man isn't welcome in the kingdom of heaven if his testicles or 'privy member' are wounded or missing. So sufferers of testicular cancer or any other genital condition or accident, are doomed to eternal damnation. Does that sound reasonable to you? No. It's kind of silly. Ditto with the Quran. There are silly, outdated, obsolete bits. These texts are guides, not rigid, literal instruction manuals. People are free to identify with the faith of their choice, and not be held accountable by random strangers who cut and paste passages from holy texts. I'm not sure why you feel the need to argue and deny anyone's faith on a swinging forum, man. Just saying. People are free to believe what they want. That's not what the Qu'ran says. One of the names for the Qu'ran is ''the eternal and unwritten Qu'ran''. You aren't allowed to interpret it yourself....This is why you have the Hadith and the Commentaries.. It is explained for you. Are you seriously a Muslim? lf you are why don't you know this stuff?? l think that there are misconceptions about Islam that is dangerous. The more misinformed Westerners who claim to be Muslim but disagree with almost all Islamic beliefs. I tend to think of faith as something highly personal. I don't think of God as someone who will strike me down or cast me out if I don't conform exactly to what a bunch of men wrote centuries ago. I was raised Muslim, and if I still identify as being Muslim, then I AM Muslim. I'd never tell anyone else what they are. It's up to them how they know God. The rigidity of religious texts as laws dates back to a time when religion was a conduit for control. Those times have passed. I think that your dismissal of the validity of my claim to be a Muslim, is not only offensive to me, but damaging to the way the world sees Islam. Telling me that my faith will not tolerate any deviance from ancient texts is tantamount to inciting racial hat_ed, and goodness knows, there's enough of that around, isn't there? You CAN be a Muslim and not be a fanatic. Allah and I understand each other. And my faith is a great source of comfort and strength to me. It's none of anyone else's business, frankly." This woman got me fallen in love Lets get halal together | |||
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"Religious texts written in times past cannot usually be used as a strict template for modern society. The bible states that a man isn't welcome in the kingdom of heaven if his testicles or 'privy member' are wounded or missing. So sufferers of testicular cancer or any other genital condition or accident, are doomed to eternal damnation. Does that sound reasonable to you? No. It's kind of silly. Ditto with the Quran. There are silly, outdated, obsolete bits. These texts are guides, not rigid, literal instruction manuals. People are free to identify with the faith of their choice, and not be held accountable by random strangers who cut and paste passages from holy texts. I'm not sure why you feel the need to argue and deny anyone's faith on a swinging forum, man. Just saying. People are free to believe what they want. That's not what the Qu'ran says. One of the names for the Qu'ran is ''the eternal and unwritten Qu'ran''. You aren't allowed to interpret it yourself....This is why you have the Hadith and the Commentaries.. It is explained for you. Are you seriously a Muslim? lf you are why don't you know this stuff?? l think that there are misconceptions about Islam that is dangerous. The more misinformed Westerners who claim to be Muslim but disagree with almost all Islamic beliefs. I tend to think of faith as something highly personal. I don't think of God as someone who will strike me down or cast me out if I don't conform exactly to what a bunch of men wrote centuries ago. I was raised Muslim, and if I still identify as being Muslim, then I AM Muslim. I'd never tell anyone else what they are. It's up to them how they know God. The rigidity of religious texts as laws dates back to a time when religion was a conduit for control. Those times have passed. I think that your dismissal of the validity of my claim to be a Muslim, is not only offensive to me, but damaging to the way the world sees Islam. Telling me that my faith will not tolerate any deviance from ancient texts is tantamount to inciting racial hat_ed, and goodness knows, there's enough of that around, isn't there? You CAN be a Muslim and not be a fanatic. Allah and I understand each other. And my faith is a great source of comfort and strength to me. It's none of anyone else's business, frankly." Well said! | |||
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"Religious texts written in times past cannot usually be used as a strict template for modern society. The bible states that a man isn't welcome in the kingdom of heaven if his testicles or 'privy member' are wounded or missing. So sufferers of testicular cancer or any other genital condition or accident, are doomed to eternal damnation. Does that sound reasonable to you? No. It's kind of silly. Ditto with the Quran. There are silly, outdated, obsolete bits. These texts are guides, not rigid, literal instruction manuals. People are free to identify with the faith of their choice, and not be held accountable by random strangers who cut and paste passages from holy texts. I'm not sure why you feel the need to argue and deny anyone's faith on a swinging forum, man. Just saying. People are free to believe what they want. That's not what the Qu'ran says. One of the names for the Qu'ran is ''the eternal and unwritten Qu'ran''. You aren't allowed to interpret it yourself....This is why you have the Hadith and the Commentaries.. It is explained for you. Are you seriously a Muslim? lf you are why don't you know this stuff?? l think that there are misconceptions about Islam that is dangerous. The more misinformed Westerners who claim to be Muslim but disagree with almost all Islamic beliefs. I tend to think of faith as something highly personal. I don't think of God as someone who will strike me down or cast me out if I don't conform exactly to what a bunch of men wrote centuries ago. I was raised Muslim, and if I still identify as being Muslim, then I AM Muslim. I'd never tell anyone else what they are. It's up to them how they know God. The rigidity of religious texts as laws dates back to a time when religion was a conduit for control. Those times have passed. I think that your dismissal of the validity of my claim to be a Muslim, is not only offensive to me, but damaging to the way the world sees Islam. Telling me that my faith will not tolerate any deviance from ancient texts is tantamount to inciting racial hat_ed, and goodness knows, there's enough of that around, isn't there? You CAN be a Muslim and not be a fanatic. Allah and I understand each other. And my faith is a great source of comfort and strength to me. It's none of anyone else's business, frankly. Well said! "Islam is not a race . | |||
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"Religious texts written in times past cannot usually be used as a strict template for modern society. The bible states that a man isn't welcome in the kingdom of heaven if his testicles or 'privy member' are wounded or missing. So sufferers of testicular cancer or any other genital condition or accident, are doomed to eternal damnation. Does that sound reasonable to you? No. It's kind of silly. Ditto with the Quran. There are silly, outdated, obsolete bits. These texts are guides, not rigid, literal instruction manuals. People are free to identify with the faith of their choice, and not be held accountable by random strangers who cut and paste passages from holy texts. I'm not sure why you feel the need to argue and deny anyone's faith on a swinging forum, man. Just saying. People are free to believe what they want. That's not what the Qu'ran says. One of the names for the Qu'ran is ''the eternal and unwritten Qu'ran''. You aren't allowed to interpret it yourself....This is why you have the Hadith and the Commentaries.. It is explained for you. Are you seriously a Muslim? lf you are why don't you know this stuff?? l think that there are misconceptions about Islam that is dangerous. The more misinformed Westerners who claim to be Muslim but disagree with almost all Islamic beliefs. I tend to think of faith as something highly personal. I don't think of God as someone who will strike me down or cast me out if I don't conform exactly to what a bunch of men wrote centuries ago. I was raised Muslim, and if I still identify as being Muslim, then I AM Muslim. I'd never tell anyone else what they are. It's up to them how they know God. The rigidity of religious texts as laws dates back to a time when religion was a conduit for control. Those times have passed. I think that your dismissal of the validity of my claim to be a Muslim, is not only offensive to me, but damaging to the way the world sees Islam. Telling me that my faith will not tolerate any deviance from ancient texts is tantamount to inciting racial hat_ed, and goodness knows, there's enough of that around, isn't there? You CAN be a Muslim and not be a fanatic. Allah and I understand each other. And my faith is a great source of comfort and strength to me. It's none of anyone else's business, frankly." You seem to be equating race and ethnicity to Islam and that is disingenuous at best or deceitful at worse. You can be atheist and a Jew but you cannot be a atheist and a Muslim because Jews are an ethnic group and Islam is a religion. l'm not telling you what you can think and believe, it's the Qu'ran that is. l think you are extremely misinformed about Islam and what it is. And the notion that you can think and believe anything and still be a Muslim is false. You MUST meet certain criteria. lf you go around preaching the existence of many different Gods for example, then you simply aren't a Muslim. | |||
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"Religious texts written in times past cannot usually be used as a strict template for modern society. The bible states that a man isn't welcome in the kingdom of heaven if his testicles or 'privy member' are wounded or missing. So sufferers of testicular cancer or any other genital condition or accident, are doomed to eternal damnation. Does that sound reasonable to you? No. It's kind of silly. Ditto with the Quran. There are silly, outdated, obsolete bits. These texts are guides, not rigid, literal instruction manuals. People are free to identify with the faith of their choice, and not be held accountable by random strangers who cut and paste passages from holy texts. I'm not sure why you feel the need to argue and deny anyone's faith on a swinging forum, man. Just saying. People are free to believe what they want. That's not what the Qu'ran says. One of the names for the Qu'ran is ''the eternal and unwritten Qu'ran''. You aren't allowed to interpret it yourself....This is why you have the Hadith and the Commentaries.. It is explained for you. Are you seriously a Muslim? lf you are why don't you know this stuff?? l think that there are misconceptions about Islam that is dangerous. The more misinformed Westerners who claim to be Muslim but disagree with almost all Islamic beliefs. I tend to think of faith as something highly personal. I don't think of God as someone who will strike me down or cast me out if I don't conform exactly to what a bunch of men wrote centuries ago. I was raised Muslim, and if I still identify as being Muslim, then I AM Muslim. I'd never tell anyone else what they are. It's up to them how they know God. The rigidity of religious texts as laws dates back to a time when religion was a conduit for control. Those times have passed. I think that your dismissal of the validity of my claim to be a Muslim, is not only offensive to me, but damaging to the way the world sees Islam. Telling me that my faith will not tolerate any deviance from ancient texts is tantamount to inciting racial hat_ed, and goodness knows, there's enough of that around, isn't there? You CAN be a Muslim and not be a fanatic. Allah and I understand each other. And my faith is a great source of comfort and strength to me. It's none of anyone else's business, frankly. You seem to be equating race and ethnicity to Islam and that is disingenuous at best or deceitful at worse. You can be atheist and a Jew but you cannot be a atheist and a Muslim because Jews are an ethnic group and Islam is a religion. l'm not telling you what you can think and believe, it's the Qu'ran that is. l think you are extremely misinformed about Islam and what it is. And the notion that you can think and believe anything and still be a Muslim is false. You MUST meet certain criteria. lf you go around preaching the existence of many different Gods for example, then you simply aren't a Muslim. " Do you even know what are you talking about Jews calls to God atheist are against the exstince of god Plus you count convert to Jew just for your info seems like reading hot post was a waste of time, plus her Allah who decide if she's worthy of that faith or not being a swinger is one thing and if it was a bad thing it's only a sin that can be forgiven it's not like anything else | |||
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" I'm a real bad Catholic girl. *spins rosary beads* Who doesn't like a bad Catholic girl " . Priests and Catholic mothers | |||
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" I'm a real bad Catholic girl. *spins rosary beads* Who doesn't like a bad Catholic girl . Priests and Catholic mothers" and protestants with hunky blonde hair sons | |||
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"Try humanism and you will enjoy life much better! If gods real hes sick and twisted!" James, watch this then: https://youtu.be/-suvkwNYSQo | |||
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"Try humanism and you will enjoy life much better! If gods real hes sick and twisted! James, watch this then: https://youtu.be/-suvkwNYSQo" Thats who converted me into it. Its very true. My friend is a cristian and after looking into it this made me rebel more against it. He gives 25% of his wage to the church and the pastor drives around in a new jaguar figure that out! He spot on tho stephen fry | |||
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"Is there many muslims on here? And if so do you find fabs conflicting at all with your religion?" Maybe the guy asking is a muslim convert of sorts, sorry op just enquiring. Good question tho as my interactions with muslim guys on fab have been sheer hassle.... And how can you be religious and swing....yall be being hypocritical much....after all this is a place for the demonic if you believe fairytales that is... | |||
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"Is there many muslims on here? And if so do you find fabs conflicting at all with your religion? Maybe the guy asking is a muslim convert of sorts, sorry op just enquiring. Good question tho as my interactions with muslim guys on fab have been sheer hassle.... And how can you be religious and swing....yall be being hypocritical much....after all this is a place for the demonic if you believe fairytales that is... "We are all hypocrites. We just do it in different ways. | |||
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"Is there many muslims on here? And if so do you find fabs conflicting at all with your religion? Maybe the guy asking is a muslim convert of sorts, sorry op just enquiring. Good question tho as my interactions with muslim guys on fab have been sheer hassle.... And how can you be religious and swing....yall be being hypocritical much....after all this is a place for the demonic if you believe fairytales that is...
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"Another Muslim, here. I can't recall anything specifically anti-swinging in the Quran. That's good enough for me. Nothing in there promoting terrorism, either, but that sounds like it's less fun and more risky, so as far as hobbies are concerned, I'll stick to this... To be fair the Bible actively promotes terrorism (or conversion as it is euphemistically called..see the crusades and great parts of the old testament for details) By comparison your Qur'an is a fairly gentle read full of whimsy and light. Hence when you go to islamic countries people tend to be entirely lovely and kind whereas when you go to Christian countries people are selfish and self serving." Christian Britain is the most tolerant nation on earth, a light to the nations and allows men to worship God according to the dictates of their conscience... That cannot be said in countries were Islam holds sway were both the Jew and the Christian are persecuted,tortu_ed, jailed put to death, their churchs burnt down... The New testament teachings are the core of this island nations laws and all nations flock to our shores to enjoy the freedoms and benefits our Christian forefathers bestowed apon us... | |||
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"Another Muslim, here. I can't recall anything specifically anti-swinging in the Quran. That's good enough for me. Nothing in there promoting terrorism, either, but that sounds like it's less fun and more risky, so as far as hobbies are concerned, I'll stick to this... To be fair the Bible actively promotes terrorism (or conversion as it is euphemistically called..see the crusades and great parts of the old testament for details) By comparison your Qur'an is a fairly gentle read full of whimsy and light. Hence when you go to islamic countries people tend to be entirely lovely and kind whereas when you go to Christian countries people are selfish and self serving. Christian Britain is the most tolerant nation on earth, a light to the nations and allows men to worship God according to the dictates of their conscience... That cannot be said in countries were Islam holds sway were both the Jew and the Christian are persecuted,tortu_ed, jailed put to death, their churchs burnt down... The New testament teachings are the core of this island nations laws and all nations flock to our shores to enjoy the freedoms and benefits our Christian forefathers bestowed apon us..." Absolute garbage. The largest Muslim nation on earth, Indonesia permits anyone to worship as they please. Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Iran all have large communities of non Muslims who live in peace and as part of the society. Qatar, Bahrain, the UAE, all the same. Try going to these places before you label them. | |||
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"Another Muslim, here. I can't recall anything specifically anti-swinging in the Quran. That's good enough for me. Nothing in there promoting terrorism, either, but that sounds like it's less fun and more risky, so as far as hobbies are concerned, I'll stick to this... To be fair the Bible actively promotes terrorism (or conversion as it is euphemistically called..see the crusades and great parts of the old testament for details) By comparison your Qur'an is a fairly gentle read full of whimsy and light. Hence when you go to islamic countries people tend to be entirely lovely and kind whereas when you go to Christian countries people are selfish and self serving. Christian Britain is the most tolerant nation on earth, a light to the nations and allows men to worship God according to the dictates of their conscience... That cannot be said in countries were Islam holds sway were both the Jew and the Christian are persecuted,tortu_ed, jailed put to death, their churchs burnt down... The New testament teachings are the core of this island nations laws and all nations flock to our shores to enjoy the freedoms and benefits our Christian forefathers bestowed apon us... Absolute garbage. The largest Muslim nation on earth, Indonesia permits anyone to worship as they please. Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Iran all have large communities of non Muslims who live in peace and as part of the society. Qatar, Bahrain, the UAE, all the same. Try going to these places before you label them. " This is not factual | |||
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"Religious texts written in times past cannot usually be used as a strict template for modern society. The bible states that a man isn't welcome in the kingdom of heaven if his testicles or 'privy member' are wounded or missing. So sufferers of testicular cancer or any other genital condition or accident, are doomed to eternal damnation. Does that sound reasonable to you? No. It's kind of silly. Ditto with the Quran. There are silly, outdated, obsolete bits. These texts are guides, not rigid, literal instruction manuals. People are free to identify with the faith of their choice, and not be held accountable by random strangers who cut and paste passages from holy texts. I'm not sure why you feel the need to argue and deny anyone's faith on a swinging forum, man. Just saying. People are free to believe what they want. That's not what the Qu'ran says. One of the names for the Qu'ran is ''the eternal and unwritten Qu'ran''. You aren't allowed to interpret it yourself....This is why you have the Hadith and the Commentaries.. It is explained for you. Are you seriously a Muslim? lf you are why don't you know this stuff?? l think that there are misconceptions about Islam that is dangerous. The more misinformed Westerners who claim to be Muslim but disagree with almost all Islamic beliefs. I tend to think of faith as something highly personal. I don't think of God as someone who will strike me down or cast me out if I don't conform exactly to what a bunch of men wrote centuries ago. I was raised Muslim, and if I still identify as being Muslim, then I AM Muslim. I'd never tell anyone else what they are. It's up to them how they know God. The rigidity of religious texts as laws dates back to a time when religion was a conduit for control. Those times have passed. I think that your dismissal of the validity of my claim to be a Muslim, is not only offensive to me, but damaging to the way the world sees Islam. Telling me that my faith will not tolerate any deviance from ancient texts is tantamount to inciting racial hat_ed, and goodness knows, there's enough of that around, isn't there? You CAN be a Muslim and not be a fanatic. Allah and I understand each other. And my faith is a great source of comfort and strength to me. It's none of anyone else's business, frankly. You seem to be equating race and ethnicity to Islam and that is disingenuous at best or deceitful at worse. You can be atheist and a Jew but you cannot be a atheist and a Muslim because Jews are an ethnic group and Islam is a religion. l'm not telling you what you can think and believe, it's the Qu'ran that is. l think you are extremely misinformed about Islam and what it is. And the notion that you can think and believe anything and still be a Muslim is false. You MUST meet certain criteria. lf you go around preaching the existence of many different Gods for example, then you simply aren't a Muslim. " you are wrong, misinformed , and ignorant. | |||
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"Another Muslim, here. I can't recall anything specifically anti-swinging in the Quran. That's good enough for me. Nothing in there promoting terrorism, either, but that sounds like it's less fun and more risky, so as far as hobbies are concerned, I'll stick to this... To be fair the Bible actively promotes terrorism (or conversion as it is euphemistically called..see the crusades and great parts of the old testament for details) By comparison your Qur'an is a fairly gentle read full of whimsy and light. Hence when you go to islamic countries people tend to be entirely lovely and kind whereas when you go to Christian countries people are selfish and self serving. Christian Britain is the most tolerant nation on earth, a light to the nations and allows men to worship God according to the dictates of their conscience... That cannot be said in countries were Islam holds sway were both the Jew and the Christian are persecuted,tortu_ed, jailed put to death, their churchs burnt down... The New testament teachings are the core of this island nations laws and all nations flock to our shores to enjoy the freedoms and benefits our Christian forefathers bestowed apon us... Absolute garbage. The largest Muslim nation on earth, Indonesia permits anyone to worship as they please. Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Iran all have large communities of non Muslims who live in peace and as part of the society. Qatar, Bahrain, the UAE, all the same. Try going to these places before you label them. This is not factual" It is. This is not trump politics. You cannot just declare something a fact and that makes it so. Similarly you cannot just declare something wrong and that makes it so. Remember facts are statements which reflect reality as it happens or has happened. Not what you want to have happened to suit your own aims or the like. | |||
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"Another Muslim, here. I can't recall anything specifically anti-swinging in the Quran. That's good enough for me. Nothing in there promoting terrorism, either, but that sounds like it's less fun and more risky, so as far as hobbies are concerned, I'll stick to this... To be fair the Bible actively promotes terrorism (or conversion as it is euphemistically called..see the crusades and great parts of the old testament for details) By comparison your Qur'an is a fairly gentle read full of whimsy and light. Hence when you go to islamic countries people tend to be entirely lovely and kind whereas when you go to Christian countries people are selfish and self serving. Christian Britain is the most tolerant nation on earth, a light to the nations and allows men to worship God according to the dictates of their conscience... That cannot be said in countries were Islam holds sway were both the Jew and the Christian are persecuted,tortu_ed, jailed put to death, their churchs burnt down... The New testament teachings are the core of this island nations laws and all nations flock to our shores to enjoy the freedoms and benefits our Christian forefathers bestowed apon us..." The core of this nations laws are judicial precedent and statute, neither of which have been heavily influenced by the bible for probably a 1000 years. Plus, we're arguably a more secular nation than Christian these days. | |||
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"Is there many muslims on here? And if so do you find fabs conflicting at all with your religion?" There probably are... and it most likely depends on their position on the religious spectrum...very or not very. That said if they're on this site they probably aren't meeting anyway so there's nothing to be worried about lol | |||
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"I think only Wicca and Thelema condone sexy times within religion, so you might want to direct that OP to all book religions. " A is a Wiccan so I've heard of that. Thelema is a new one on me though. Will Google it. Thanks for the heads up. | |||
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"Is there many muslims on here? And if so do you find fabs conflicting at all with your religion?" There probably are... and it most likely depends on their position on the religious spectrum...very or not very. That said if they're on this site they probably aren't meeting anyway so there's nothing to be worried about lol | |||
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"Another Muslim, here. I can't recall anything specifically anti-swinging in the Quran. That's good enough for me. Nothing in there promoting terrorism, either, but that sounds like it's less fun and more risky, so as far as hobbies are concerned, I'll stick to this... To be fair the Bible actively promotes terrorism (or conversion as it is euphemistically called..see the crusades and great parts of the old testament for details) By comparison your Qur'an is a fairly gentle read full of whimsy and light. Hence when you go to islamic countries people tend to be entirely lovely and kind whereas when you go to Christian countries people are selfish and self serving. Christian Britain is the most tolerant nation on earth, a light to the nations and allows men to worship God according to the dictates of their conscience... That cannot be said in countries were Islam holds sway were both the Jew and the Christian are persecuted,tortu_ed, jailed put to death, their churchs burnt down... The New testament teachings are the core of this island nations laws and all nations flock to our shores to enjoy the freedoms and benefits our Christian forefathers bestowed apon us... The core of this nations laws are judicial precedent and statute, neither of which have been heavily influenced by the bible for probably a 1000 years. Plus, we're arguably a more secular nation than Christian these days." More falsehoods plus 59 per cent of this island kingdoms class themselves as Christian, that includes our Head of state Her Majesty as said to others go research these things... | |||
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"Is there many muslims on here? And if so do you find fabs conflicting at all with your religion?" So OP has chucked a grenade of a question into a thread, then legged it to watch the explosions... I see you, OP. I see you.
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"Is there many muslims on here? And if so do you find fabs conflicting at all with your religion? So OP has chucked a grenade of a question into a thread, then legged it to watch the explosions... I see you, OP. I see you.
You'd be great in the politics forum...
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"Another Muslim, here. I can't recall anything specifically anti-swinging in the Quran. That's good enough for me. Nothing in there promoting terrorism, either, but that sounds like it's less fun and more risky, so as far as hobbies are concerned, I'll stick to this... To be fair the Bible actively promotes terrorism (or conversion as it is euphemistically called..see the crusades and great parts of the old testament for details) By comparison your Qur'an is a fairly gentle read full of whimsy and light. Hence when you go to islamic countries people tend to be entirely lovely and kind whereas when you go to Christian countries people are selfish and self serving. Christian Britain is the most tolerant nation on earth, a light to the nations and allows men to worship God according to the dictates of their conscience... That cannot be said in countries were Islam holds sway were both the Jew and the Christian are persecuted,tortu_ed, jailed put to death, their churchs burnt down... The New testament teachings are the core of this island nations laws and all nations flock to our shores to enjoy the freedoms and benefits our Christian forefathers bestowed apon us... The core of this nations laws are judicial precedent and statute, neither of which have been heavily influenced by the bible for probably a 1000 years. Plus, we're arguably a more secular nation than Christian these days. More falsehoods plus 59 per cent of this island kingdoms class themselves as Christian, that includes our Head of state Her Majesty as said to others go research these things..." Which bits are false? The law part certainly isn't (I can provide references, if you wish) and I'd still argue that we're virtually a secular state. | |||
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"Is there many muslims on here? And if so do you find fabs conflicting at all with your religion?" Are there.... | |||
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"Thought this thread was about muslims not christians? Thats true , but as usual the secularists rush forth to defend Islam and pour forth falsehoods and hate against Christianity.. Henceforth their falsehoods and hat_ed is are refuted" And I've not seen any 'hat_ed' against Christianity either? My feelings towards religion are entirely ambivalent but I'm not so arrogant that I don't see that a lot of people seek solace and find peace in their faith, whatever religion they follow. However, when one religion uses their imaginary sky man to pour scorn and hat_ed on another religion, then my hackles get up. | |||
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"Is there many muslims on here? And if so do you find fabs conflicting at all with your religion? Are there...." Sorry that was just grammar police, not reopening the question. | |||
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"Another Muslim, here. I can't recall anything specifically anti-swinging in the Quran. That's good enough for me. Nothing in there promoting terrorism, either, but that sounds like it's less fun and more risky, so as far as hobbies are concerned, I'll stick to this... To be fair the Bible actively promotes terrorism (or conversion as it is euphemistically called..see the crusades and great parts of the old testament for details) By comparison your Qur'an is a fairly gentle read full of whimsy and light. Hence when you go to islamic countries people tend to be entirely lovely and kind whereas when you go to Christian countries people are selfish and self serving. Christian Britain is the most tolerant nation on earth, a light to the nations and allows men to worship God according to the dictates of their conscience... That cannot be said in countries were Islam holds sway were both the Jew and the Christian are persecuted,tortu_ed, jailed put to death, their churchs burnt down... The New testament teachings are the core of this island nations laws and all nations flock to our shores to enjoy the freedoms and benefits our Christian forefathers bestowed apon us..." Exactly
Look at the political opinions of the Mizrahim (middle eastern Jews). They are FAR more anti-Islam and Trumpian than the European Jews who never actually lived in Muslim lands until later. l find that telling. | |||
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"Not read the whole thread so this may have been mentioned before. Would we meet a Muslim couple who have equal rights when it comes to sex and swinging? Yes. Would we meet a Muslim single guy who basically treats white women who swing as free prostitutes? Absolutely not." Fair. If you removed the word Muslim from that, how would your preconceptions change? | |||
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"Not read the whole thread so this may have been mentioned before. Would we meet a Muslim couple who have equal rights when it comes to sex and swinging? Yes. Would we meet a Muslim single guy who basically treats white women who swing as free prostitutes? Absolutely not. Fair. If you removed the word Muslim from that, how would your preconceptions change?" very true,i have noticed no particular race or creed on here more likely to do that than another..the majority of single men on here do that, and the majority of them are white. | |||
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"Not read the whole thread so this may have been mentioned before. Would we meet a Muslim couple who have equal rights when it comes to sex and swinging? Yes. Would we meet a Muslim single guy who basically treats white women who swing as free prostitutes? Absolutely not. Fair. If you removed the word Muslim from that, how would your preconceptions change? very true,i have noticed no particular race or creed on here more likely to do that than another..the majority of single men on here do that, and the majority of them are white." That's sexist now. Not racist. Maybe we stop stereotyping people all in? I could say that the majority of women here denigrate and belittle men on the forums. It's probably not true but there is a ton of circumstantial evidence to back me up. However saying it helps no one and just sows more division. Let's stop all this stereotyping shite and just take people as they come? It's fucking pathetic and small minded. | |||
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"Thought this thread was about muslims not christians? Thats true , but as usual the secularists rush forth to defend Islam and pour forth falsehoods and hate against Christianity.. Henceforth their falsehoods and hat_ed is are refuted And I've not seen any 'hat_ed' against Christianity either? My feelings towards religion are entirely ambivalent but I'm not so arrogant that I don't see that a lot of people seek solace and find peace in their faith, whatever religion they follow. However, when one religion uses their imaginary sky man to pour scorn and hat_ed on another religion, then my hackles get up." Your own words condemn you | |||
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"Thought this thread was about muslims not christians? Thats true , but as usual the secularists rush forth to defend Islam and pour forth falsehoods and hate against Christianity.. Henceforth their falsehoods and hat_ed is are refuted And I've not seen any 'hat_ed' against Christianity either? My feelings towards religion are entirely ambivalent but I'm not so arrogant that I don't see that a lot of people seek solace and find peace in their faith, whatever religion they follow. However, when one religion uses their imaginary sky man to pour scorn and hat_ed on another religion, then my hackles get up. Your own words condemn you" How on earth do my words condemn me? | |||
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"I was born a Jehovah's witness!!!!!!!" . Unlucky  | |||
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"Charles Spurgeon (1834–1892) decla_ed: ‘There is not land beneath the sun where there is an open Bible and a preached gospel, where a tyrant long can hold his place … Let the Bible be opened to be read by all men, and no tyrant can long rule in peace. England owes her freedom to the Bible... The religion of Jesus makes men think, and to make men think is always dangerous to a despot’s power.’9 " You might want to look a little closer to the present day for your references. This country has changed immensely, socio-politically, scientifically and theologically since the mid-19th century! | |||
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"Charles Spurgeon (1834–1892) decla_ed: ‘There is not land beneath the sun where there is an open Bible and a preached gospel, where a tyrant long can hold his place … Let the Bible be opened to be read by all men, and no tyrant can long rule in peace. England owes her freedom to the Bible... The religion of Jesus makes men think, and to make men think is always dangerous to a despot’s power.’9 You might want to look a little closer to the present day for your references. This country has changed immensely, socio-politically, scientifically and theologically since the mid-19th century!" The End. | |||
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