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After 15 yrs of continuous full time employment, a friend moved on to zero hrs kind of work.
The dole office doesn't want to know because to them she is still employed etc.
How exactly does this work out? |
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It works well for some but for many it works badly.
I have a zero hours contract but it suits me very well because I have a pension so can manage when there's no work and can turn down work if I don't want to do it. However if I had a mortgage etc and needed a fixed income it would be awful. I feel sorry for your friend. |
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over a year ago
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If she applies for universal credit (covers both jsa & housing benefits) they deduct her earnings from the universal credit, so she'd get at least whatever UC she'd be entitled to each month, and you can work while on it too. |
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i have a zero hours contract...it's ok most of the time, if you dont mind never being able to plan anything ahead, but when/if the hours suddenly plummet for whatever reason, it's horrendous...really hope they get rid of them soon,horrible way to treat people. |
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"If she applies for universal credit (covers both jsa & housing benefits) they deduct her earnings from the universal credit, so she'd get at least whatever UC she'd be entitled to each month, and you can work while on it too."
some of the women at my employer who work part time have tried this and found it completely unworkable..benefits taking weeks to be sorted out etc..if you are on a low income anyway, which these zero hrs jobs usually are, theres not much chance of saving for emergencies.. |
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"If she applies for universal credit (covers both jsa & housing benefits) they deduct her earnings from the universal credit, so she'd get at least whatever UC she'd be entitled to each month, and you can work while on it too.
some of the women at my employer who work part time have tried this and found it completely unworkable..benefits taking weeks to be sorted out etc..if you are on a low income anyway, which these zero hrs jobs usually are, theres not much chance of saving for emergencies.."
That's weird, I know you don't get the full amount for up to six weeks, but you can get a hardship loan which covers up to half of the monthly payment and then it's automatically taken out in installments. When I did that I got a next day payment. |
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"If she applies for universal credit (covers both jsa & housing benefits) they deduct her earnings from the universal credit, so she'd get at least whatever UC she'd be entitled to each month, and you can work while on it too.
some of the women at my employer who work part time have tried this and found it completely unworkable..benefits taking weeks to be sorted out etc..if you are on a low income anyway, which these zero hrs jobs usually are, theres not much chance of saving for emergencies..
That's weird, I know you don't get the full amount for up to six weeks, but you can get a hardship loan which covers up to half of the monthly payment and then it's automatically taken out in installments. When I did that I got a next day payment."
but if your hours vary from week to week its impossible to constantly be reapplying,changing etc your benefits..i work full time hrs, but its been a real problem for others working part time..most seem to give up..either the job, or do more hrs and stop claiming |
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"If she applies for universal credit (covers both jsa & housing benefits) they deduct her earnings from the universal credit, so she'd get at least whatever UC she'd be entitled to each month, and you can work while on it too.
some of the women at my employer who work part time have tried this and found it completely unworkable..benefits taking weeks to be sorted out etc..if you are on a low income anyway, which these zero hrs jobs usually are, theres not much chance of saving for emergencies..
That's weird, I know you don't get the full amount for up to six weeks, but you can get a hardship loan which covers up to half of the monthly payment and then it's automatically taken out in installments. When I did that I got a next day payment."
not all job centres tell you about the hardship payments though. |
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"After 15 yrs of continuous full time employment, a friend moved on to zero hrs kind of work.
The dole office doesn't want to know because to them she is still employed etc.
How exactly does this work out?"
unfortunately they are right though..she is employed..thats why it's very difficult to constantly be changing claims due to varying wages.. |
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"If she applies for universal credit (covers both jsa & housing benefits) they deduct her earnings from the universal credit, so she'd get at least whatever UC she'd be entitled to each month, and you can work while on it too.
some of the women at my employer who work part time have tried this and found it completely unworkable..benefits taking weeks to be sorted out etc..if you are on a low income anyway, which these zero hrs jobs usually are, theres not much chance of saving for emergencies..
That's weird, I know you don't get the full amount for up to six weeks, but you can get a hardship loan which covers up to half of the monthly payment and then it's automatically taken out in installments. When I did that I got a next day payment.
but if your hours vary from week to week its impossible to constantly be reapplying,changing etc your benefits..i work full time hrs, but its been a real problem for others working part time..most seem to give up..either the job, or do more hrs and stop claiming"
That hasn't happened with me, when I had a wage from a job I had before I started my claim, that was just automatically taken off that month's UC so there wouldn't be a need to reclaim, not unless you haven't received any UC for a block period of six months.
That's how it works where I am. |
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"If she applies for universal credit (covers both jsa & housing benefits) they deduct her earnings from the universal credit, so she'd get at least whatever UC she'd be entitled to each month, and you can work while on it too."
So as and when her earnings rise and fall, does the system automatically correct any UC she may be receiving? |
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"If she applies for universal credit (covers both jsa & housing benefits) they deduct her earnings from the universal credit, so she'd get at least whatever UC she'd be entitled to each month, and you can work while on it too.
So as and when her earnings rise and fall, does the system automatically correct any UC she may be receiving?"
From my experience, yes  |
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"If she applies for universal credit (covers both jsa & housing benefits) they deduct her earnings from the universal credit, so she'd get at least whatever UC she'd be entitled to each month, and you can work while on it too.
some of the women at my employer who work part time have tried this and found it completely unworkable..benefits taking weeks to be sorted out etc..if you are on a low income anyway, which these zero hrs jobs usually are, theres not much chance of saving for emergencies..
That's weird, I know you don't get the full amount for up to six weeks, but you can get a hardship loan which covers up to half of the monthly payment and then it's automatically taken out in installments. When I did that I got a next day payment.
but if your hours vary from week to week its impossible to constantly be reapplying,changing etc your benefits..i work full time hrs, but its been a real problem for others working part time..most seem to give up..either the job, or do more hrs and stop claiming
That hasn't happened with me, when I had a wage from a job I had before I started my claim, that was just automatically taken off that month's UC so there wouldn't be a need to reclaim, not unless you haven't received any UC for a block period of six months.
That's how it works where I am. "
i'm not sure if you get what i mean..some of the part time women where i work have to work under 16 hrs to continue to get benefits, but when the amount changes every day, let alone every week, its very difficult for both them and the job centre to administrate..impossible for most in fact |
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You can work over 16 hours and still get payment as long as it's not over25 hours you've just got to know what paperwork to fill out and what to say ect,.if any one needs a helping hand message me |
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"If she applies for universal credit (covers both jsa & housing benefits) they deduct her earnings from the universal credit, so she'd get at least whatever UC she'd be entitled to each month, and you can work while on it too.
some of the women at my employer who work part time have tried this and found it completely unworkable..benefits taking weeks to be sorted out etc..if you are on a low income anyway, which these zero hrs jobs usually are, theres not much chance of saving for emergencies..
That's weird, I know you don't get the full amount for up to six weeks, but you can get a hardship loan which covers up to half of the monthly payment and then it's automatically taken out in installments. When I did that I got a next day payment.
but if your hours vary from week to week its impossible to constantly be reapplying,changing etc your benefits..i work full time hrs, but its been a real problem for others working part time..most seem to give up..either the job, or do more hrs and stop claiming
That hasn't happened with me, when I had a wage from a job I had before I started my claim, that was just automatically taken off that month's UC so there wouldn't be a need to reclaim, not unless you haven't received any UC for a block period of six months.
That's how it works where I am.
i'm not sure if you get what i mean..some of the part time women where i work have to work under 16 hrs to continue to get benefits, but when the amount changes every day, let alone every week, its very difficult for both them and the job centre to administrate..impossible for most in fact"
As far as I'm aware that sounds more like JSA? But I'm not an expert, just using my own personal knowledge of UC and they're entirely different to each other. I'm far too tired to discuss the ins and outs of benefit claiming, there's lots of information on the internet and I was just attempting to point the OP in the right direction.  |
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