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"l've seen some people say that they won't meet soldier, sailors, airmen and police. What is the motivation here and is it political?" Not for me im interested in the person not what they are wearing.. And I've found from past experience they are somewhat arrogant in nature so I choose not to bother | |||
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"l've seen some people say that they won't meet soldier, sailors, airmen and police. What is the motivation here and is it political?" m Why would it be political? Did the thread get removed the other day when it was said it was because apparently women hate men despite them making up 99% (think that was the figure quoted) of the emergency services. Isn't it the Army v Navy Game today? I have nothing but respect for anyone who serves our country regardless of Fab. | |||
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"l've seen some people say that they won't meet soldier, sailors, airmen and police. What is the motivation here and is it political?" Maybe ask those who have such preferences? | |||
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"l've seen some people say that they won't meet soldier, sailors, airmen and police. What is the motivation here and is it political?m Why would it be political? Did the thread get removed the other day when it was said it was because apparently women hate men despite them making up 99% (think that was the figure quoted) of the emergency services. Isn't it the Army v Navy Game today? I have nothing but respect for anyone who serves our country regardless of Fab. " Because in someways servicemen represent our country and some people might dislike that because they dislike the country. Like those people who wanted to protest Wooton Basset, That thread became too large and wasn't referring to the military. | |||
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"What about those lovely young ladies that serve our country. I met a young WRAF at Raf Aldergrove many years ago who was so perfect we married and had two wonderful children. Ok in the end our marriage dropped away like a melting ice cream....but while it lasted it was summer everyday." Props to the women who serve but in this context l'm mainly talking about men because the military is seen as masculine and sometimes more/less desired. | |||
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"l've seen some people say that they won't meet soldier, sailors, airmen and police. What is the motivation here and is it political?" Think its cos every other bloke seem to say they are a soldier or fireman and then act like u should be falling over yourself to meet them think its the one who are lying about what they do that expect this reaction though not the real ones | |||
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"l've seen some people say that they won't meet soldier, sailors, airmen and police. What is the motivation here and is it political?m Why would it be political? Did the thread get removed the other day when it was said it was because apparently women hate men despite them making up 99% (think that was the figure quoted) of the emergency services. Isn't it the Army v Navy Game today? I have nothing but respect for anyone who serves our country regardless of Fab. Because in someways servicemen represent our country and some people might dislike that because they dislike the country. Like those people who wanted to protest Wooton Basset, That thread became too large and wasn't referring to the military." What's your agenda here? ![]() | |||
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"l've seen some people say that they won't meet soldier, sailors, airmen and police. What is the motivation here and is it political?m Why would it be political? Did the thread get removed the other day when it was said it was because apparently women hate men despite them making up 99% (think that was the figure quoted) of the emergency services. Isn't it the Army v Navy Game today? I have nothing but respect for anyone who serves our country regardless of Fab. Because in someways servicemen represent our country and some people might dislike that because they dislike the country. Like those people who wanted to protest Wooton Basset, That thread became too large and wasn't referring to the military. What's your agenda here? ![]() l don't have one. You are free to leave the thread and not participate if you think there is nefarious intent. | |||
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"l've seen some people say that they won't meet soldier, sailors, airmen and police. What is the motivation here and is it political?" Personal choice. I don't think there is any political motivation involved. | |||
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"I don't like to meet any military because I was in that world for a long time myself. Gossip is massive. I am concerned that someone will recognize me and feel duty bound to report back to my ex. (that feeling is very common in the forces, they look after their own) Then the shit would hit the fan massively, my ex is a nasty piece of work with military 'brothers' all over the country. I've been at the rough end of this network once before so I'm staying far away. I appreciate the job these people do, but for my own sake I avoid them on a personal level. I checked the guest list of a party I was going to attend and recognised the partial face pictures and arm tattoo of my exes former boss. He may or may not have said anything as they were not on good terms, but no chance would I risk going to that gathering. " That more understandable to me. l personally think that a lot of it is due to the demonisation of our military by some. l listen to the Jocko Willink Podcast and he has ex-MMA fighter, Brian Stann on and Stann had some other fighter walk up to him backstage and ask ''How does it feel to kill Iraqi children?'' Do you think that attitude could be a factor? Most of those l see not wanting to meet military seem quite left-wing. Anyway, better not make it too political before someone has a nose bleed. | |||
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"l've seen some people say that they won't meet soldier, sailors, airmen and police. What is the motivation here and is it political? Personal choice. I don't think there is any political motivation involved. " What informs that personal choice? | |||
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"I don't like to meet any military because I was in that world for a long time myself. Gossip is massive. I am concerned that someone will recognize me and feel duty bound to report back to my ex. (that feeling is very common in the forces, they look after their own) Then the shit would hit the fan massively, my ex is a nasty piece of work with military 'brothers' all over the country. I've been at the rough end of this network once before so I'm staying far away. I appreciate the job these people do, but for my own sake I avoid them on a personal level. I checked the guest list of a party I was going to attend and recognised the partial face pictures and arm tattoo of my exes former boss. He may or may not have said anything as they were not on good terms, but no chance would I risk going to that gathering. That more understandable to me. l personally think that a lot of it is due to the demonisation of our military by some. l listen to the Jocko Willink Podcast and he has ex-MMA fighter, Brian Stann on and Stann had some other fighter walk up to him backstage and ask ''How does it feel to kill Iraqi children?'' Do you think that attitude could be a factor? Most of those l see not wanting to meet military seem quite left-wing. Anyway, better not make it too political before someone has a nose bleed." Your being disingenuous Op, you solely want it to 'political' and anti men.. Seem to have a real issue with some women, particularly those who are left leaning.. Your bordering on the obsessive in your crusade as the threads you keep starting show.. Those that haven't been removed that is.. You have some deep issues.. | |||
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"l've seen some people say that they won't meet soldier, sailors, airmen and police. What is the motivation here and is it political?" No. | |||
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"I don't meet people who include the use of their service uniform as a selling point ....." ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I don't like to meet any military because I was in that world for a long time myself. Gossip is massive. I am concerned that someone will recognize me and feel duty bound to report back to my ex. (that feeling is very common in the forces, they look after their own) Then the shit would hit the fan massively, my ex is a nasty piece of work with military 'brothers' all over the country. I've been at the rough end of this network once before so I'm staying far away. I appreciate the job these people do, but for my own sake I avoid them on a personal level. I checked the guest list of a party I was going to attend and recognised the partial face pictures and arm tattoo of my exes former boss. He may or may not have said anything as they were not on good terms, but no chance would I risk going to that gathering. That more understandable to me. l personally think that a lot of it is due to the demonisation of our military by some. l listen to the Jocko Willink Podcast and he has ex-MMA fighter, Brian Stann on and Stann had some other fighter walk up to him backstage and ask ''How does it feel to kill Iraqi children?'' Do you think that attitude could be a factor? Most of those l see not wanting to meet military seem quite left-wing. Anyway, better not make it too political before someone has a nose bleed. Your being disingenuous Op, you solely want it to 'political' and anti men.. Seem to have a real issue with some women, particularly those who are left leaning.. Your bordering on the obsessive in your crusade as the threads you keep starting show.. Those that haven't been removed that is.. You have some deep issues.." You noticed too huh? | |||
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"I don't like to meet any military because I was in that world for a long time myself. Gossip is massive. I am concerned that someone will recognize me and feel duty bound to report back to my ex. (that feeling is very common in the forces, they look after their own) Then the shit would hit the fan massively, my ex is a nasty piece of work with military 'brothers' all over the country. I've been at the rough end of this network once before so I'm staying far away. I appreciate the job these people do, but for my own sake I avoid them on a personal level. I checked the guest list of a party I was going to attend and recognised the partial face pictures and arm tattoo of my exes former boss. He may or may not have said anything as they were not on good terms, but no chance would I risk going to that gathering. That more understandable to me. l personally think that a lot of it is due to the demonisation of our military by some. l listen to the Jocko Willink Podcast and he has ex-MMA fighter, Brian Stann on and Stann had some other fighter walk up to him backstage and ask ''How does it feel to kill Iraqi children?'' Do you think that attitude could be a factor? Most of those l see not wanting to meet military seem quite left-wing. Anyway, better not make it too political before someone has a nose bleed. Your being disingenuous Op, you solely want it to 'political' and anti men.. Seem to have a real issue with some women, particularly those who are left leaning.. Your bordering on the obsessive in your crusade as the threads you keep starting show.. Those that haven't been removed that is.. You have some deep issues.." Thank you for bringing conflict into it....You've soiled the thread and lt's the last comment l'm making on it. You've been blocked now. You are following me around and insulting me and on the last thread you mocked the state of my apparent ''mental health.'' lt's a public forum so we can all do what we want but keep on attacking me, ad hominem attacks and l'm going to start reporting you. Be a bully if you want. Your choice. | |||
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"I don't meet people who include the use of their service uniform as a selling point ....." I regularly meet people in uniform for extreme indulging. Big tasty and fries....and the odd mcflurry. I know you do too Soxy you big fibber ![]() | |||
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"l've seen some people say that they won't meet soldier, sailors, airmen and police. What is the motivation here and is it political? Personal choice. I don't think there is any political motivation involved. What informs that personal choice?" Does it really matter? It is one person or couples individual decision. Have you spoken to the people that have have made these comments to you and asked them why the wont meet service personel. | |||
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"l've seen some people say that they won't meet soldier, sailors, airmen and police. What is the motivation here and is it political? Personal choice. I don't think there is any political motivation involved. What informs that personal choice? Does it really matter? It is one person or couples individual decision. Have you spoken to the people that have have made these comments to you and asked them why the wont meet service personel." Because l'm curious. Shoot me at dawn. | |||
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"l've seen some people say that they won't meet soldier, sailors, airmen and police. What is the motivation here and is it political? Not for me im interested in the person not what they are wearing.. And I've found from past experience they are somewhat arrogant in nature so I choose not to bother " Same here. Anyone who uses a uniform to get laid is not attractive in my eyes. | |||
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"I don't meet people who include the use of their service uniform as a selling point ..... I regularly meet people in uniform for extreme indulging. Big tasty and fries....and the odd mcflurry. I know you do too Soxy you big fibber ![]() Well pardon me all over the place..... I abjectly refute that insinuation..... As you well know that infamous toilet incident involving that most heinous of clowns Ronald McDonald scared me for life ![]() | |||
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" OP I think the more credible uniform wearing folk but choose to remain fairly low profile for both security and job reasons. I've not seen any negativity towards them as individuals on the site to any great extent." l've seen a ban on all servicemen. Not just those who advertise it | |||
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"I don't meet people who include the use of their service uniform as a selling point ..... I regularly meet people in uniform for extreme indulging. Big tasty and fries....and the odd mcflurry. I know you do too Soxy you big fibber ![]() ![]() Scarred you ? Heck he went UNLOS after it and withdrew his sausage in your baps speciality from the menu ![]() | |||
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" OP I think the more credible uniform wearing folk but choose to remain fairly low profile for both security and job reasons. I've not seen any negativity towards them as individuals on the site to any great extent. l've seen a ban on all servicemen. Not just those who advertise it" So have I. But I bet if you randomly picked 20 profiles you may not see any. It's a relatively minor issues and a preference. This site is all about preference after all? | |||
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" OP I think the more credible uniform wearing folk but choose to remain fairly low profile for both security and job reasons. I've not seen any negativity towards them as individuals on the site to any great extent. l've seen a ban on all servicemen. Not just those who advertise it So have I. But I bet if you randomly picked 20 profiles you may not see any. It's a relatively minor issues and a preference. This site is all about preference after all?" Of course. l never said anything that contradicts what you have just written. | |||
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"Nothing against other uniforms, I just avoid army. Quite like the idea of supporting nurses, paramedics, vets, Tesco staff, Barclays bank employees, air crew. Viva la employable types. " So my granddad who fought in North Africa in WW2 was not employable because he was in the Army? | |||
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" OP I think the more credible uniform wearing folk but choose to remain fairly low profile for both security and job reasons. I've not seen any negativity towards them as individuals on the site to any great extent. l've seen a ban on all servicemen. Not just those who advertise it" So. Why is this any different to me saying that I won't meet people shorter than me? Mountains out of molehills! ![]() | |||
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" OP I think the more credible uniform wearing folk but choose to remain fairly low profile for both security and job reasons. I've not seen any negativity towards them as individuals on the site to any great extent. l've seen a ban on all servicemen. Not just those who advertise it So. Why is this any different to me saying that I won't meet people shorter than me? Mountains out of molehills! ![]() That's perfectly acceptable as I'm taller than you ![]() | |||
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" OP I think the more credible uniform wearing folk but choose to remain fairly low profile for both security and job reasons. I've not seen any negativity towards them as individuals on the site to any great extent. l've seen a ban on all servicemen. Not just those who advertise it So. Why is this any different to me saying that I won't meet people shorter than me? Mountains out of molehills! ![]() Blatantly Shortist . ![]() | |||
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" OP I think the more credible uniform wearing folk but choose to remain fairly low profile for both security and job reasons. I've not seen any negativity towards them as individuals on the site to any great extent. l've seen a ban on all servicemen. Not just those who advertise it So. Why is this any different to me saying that I won't meet people shorter than me? Mountains out of molehills! ![]() Because you can't change your height can you? But you can your profession. Your point is moot. And spare me the rolling eyes smiley. There is no mountain. | |||
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"l've seen some people say that they won't meet soldier, sailors, airmen and police. What is the motivation here and is it political? Personal choice. I don't think there is any political motivation involved. What informs that personal choice? Does it really matter? It is one person or couples individual decision. Have you spoken to the people that have have made these comments to you and asked them why the wont meet service personel. Because l'm curious. Shoot me at dawn." Why would i shoot you at dawn? You said you are curious so why not ask the people who state this directly why they wont meet service personel. | |||
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"I don't like to meet any military because I was in that world for a long time myself. Gossip is massive. I am concerned that someone will recognize me and feel duty bound to report back to my ex. (that feeling is very common in the forces, they look after their own) Then the shit would hit the fan massively, my ex is a nasty piece of work with military 'brothers' all over the country. I've been at the rough end of this network once before so I'm staying far away. I appreciate the job these people do, but for my own sake I avoid them on a personal level. I checked the guest list of a party I was going to attend and recognised the partial face pictures and arm tattoo of my exes former boss. He may or may not have said anything as they were not on good terms, but no chance would I risk going to that gathering. That more understandable to me. l personally think that a lot of it is due to the demonisation of our military by some. l listen to the Jocko Willink Podcast and he has ex-MMA fighter, Brian Stann on and Stann had some other fighter walk up to him backstage and ask ''How does it feel to kill Iraqi children?'' Do you think that attitude could be a factor? Most of those l see not wanting to meet military seem quite left-wing. Anyway, better not make it too political before someone has a nose bleed. Your being disingenuous Op, you solely want it to 'political' and anti men.. Seem to have a real issue with some women, particularly those who are left leaning.. Your bordering on the obsessive in your crusade as the threads you keep starting show.. Those that haven't been removed that is.. You have some deep issues.. You noticed too huh? " Yes.. There's been some personal hurt of late and I get that and have empathy but it's going down a slightly worrying route in being 'dealt with' it would appear.. | |||
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"l've seen some people say that they won't meet soldier, sailors, airmen and police. What is the motivation here and is it political? Personal choice. I don't think there is any political motivation involved. What informs that personal choice? Does it really matter? It is one person or couples individual decision. Have you spoken to the people that have have made these comments to you and asked them why the wont meet service personel. Because l'm curious. Shoot me at dawn. Why would i shoot you at dawn? You said you are curious so why not ask the people who state this directly why they wont meet service personel." Because lt's few and far between that l do see it and l only thought about it earlier. Btw, ''Personal preference'' adds nothing to conversation. lt's like saying ''Here is some vowels and consonants filling this space'' | |||
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"I don't like to meet any military because I was in that world for a long time myself. Gossip is massive. I am concerned that someone will recognize me and feel duty bound to report back to my ex. (that feeling is very common in the forces, they look after their own) Then the shit would hit the fan massively, my ex is a nasty piece of work with military 'brothers' all over the country. I've been at the rough end of this network once before so I'm staying far away. I appreciate the job these people do, but for my own sake I avoid them on a personal level. I checked the guest list of a party I was going to attend and recognised the partial face pictures and arm tattoo of my exes former boss. He may or may not have said anything as they were not on good terms, but no chance would I risk going to that gathering. That more understandable to me. l personally think that a lot of it is due to the demonisation of our military by some. l listen to the Jocko Willink Podcast and he has ex-MMA fighter, Brian Stann on and Stann had some other fighter walk up to him backstage and ask ''How does it feel to kill Iraqi children?'' Do you think that attitude could be a factor? Most of those l see not wanting to meet military seem quite left-wing. Anyway, better not make it too political before someone has a nose bleed. Your being disingenuous Op, you solely want it to 'political' and anti men.. Seem to have a real issue with some women, particularly those who are left leaning.. Your bordering on the obsessive in your crusade as the threads you keep starting show.. Those that haven't been removed that is.. You have some deep issues.. Thank you for bringing conflict into it....You've soiled the thread and lt's the last comment l'm making on it. You've been blocked now. You are following me around and insulting me and on the last thread you mocked the state of my apparent ''mental health.'' lt's a public forum so we can all do what we want but keep on attacking me, ad hominem attacks and l'm going to start reporting you. Be a bully if you want. Your choice. " Firstly your wrong about being followed and your blatantly lying as I never made any reference in your other thread to your mental health.. Yes it is a public forum and feel free to post but others will respond accordingly which is not bullying, as you clearly know.. | |||
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"I don't like to meet any military because I was in that world for a long time myself. Gossip is massive. I am concerned that someone will recognize me and feel duty bound to report back to my ex. (that feeling is very common in the forces, they look after their own) Then the shit would hit the fan massively, my ex is a nasty piece of work with military 'brothers' all over the country. I've been at the rough end of this network once before so I'm staying far away. I appreciate the job these people do, but for my own sake I avoid them on a personal level. I checked the guest list of a party I was going to attend and recognised the partial face pictures and arm tattoo of my exes former boss. He may or may not have said anything as they were not on good terms, but no chance would I risk going to that gathering. That more understandable to me. l personally think that a lot of it is due to the demonisation of our military by some. l listen to the Jocko Willink Podcast and he has ex-MMA fighter, Brian Stann on and Stann had some other fighter walk up to him backstage and ask ''How does it feel to kill Iraqi children?'' Do you think that attitude could be a factor? Most of those l see not wanting to meet military seem quite left-wing. Anyway, better not make it too political before someone has a nose bleed. Your being disingenuous Op, you solely want it to 'political' and anti men.. Seem to have a real issue with some women, particularly those who are left leaning.. Your bordering on the obsessive in your crusade as the threads you keep starting show.. Those that haven't been removed that is.. You have some deep issues.. You noticed too huh? Yes.. There's been some personal hurt of late and I get that and have empathy but it's going down a slightly worrying route in being 'dealt with' it would appear.. " lf empathy means insulting people, projecting fantastical pop psychology onto them and confirming it with others in their gang, then you are extremely empathetic. | |||
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"Having lived in a garrison town for a big chunk of my life. And (seperately) served in the Army for 10 years. I personally think there is a higher proportion of misogynists and agressive guys in the armed forces than outside. Not to tar them all with the same brush, but were I a female I would be more careful there." That's fair, but it leads to an extremely dangerous road. Admitting inherent mean differences between demographic groups is extremely politically incorrect. | |||
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"l've seen some people say that they won't meet soldier, sailors, airmen and police. What is the motivation here and is it political? Personal choice. I don't think there is any political motivation involved. What informs that personal choice? Does it really matter? It is one person or couples individual decision. Have you spoken to the people that have have made these comments to you and asked them why the wont meet service personel. Because l'm curious. Shoot me at dawn. Why would i shoot you at dawn? You said you are curious so why not ask the people who state this directly why they wont meet service personel. Because lt's few and far between that l do see it and l only thought about it earlier. Btw, ''Personal preference'' adds nothing to conversation. lt's like saying ''Here is some vowels and consonants filling this space''" Ok personal decision. | |||
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"I don't like to meet any military because I was in that world for a long time myself. Gossip is massive. I am concerned that someone will recognize me and feel duty bound to report back to my ex. (that feeling is very common in the forces, they look after their own) Then the shit would hit the fan massively, my ex is a nasty piece of work with military 'brothers' all over the country. I've been at the rough end of this network once before so I'm staying far away. I appreciate the job these people do, but for my own sake I avoid them on a personal level. I checked the guest list of a party I was going to attend and recognised the partial face pictures and arm tattoo of my exes former boss. He may or may not have said anything as they were not on good terms, but no chance would I risk going to that gathering. That more understandable to me. l personally think that a lot of it is due to the demonisation of our military by some. l listen to the Jocko Willink Podcast and he has ex-MMA fighter, Brian Stann on and Stann had some other fighter walk up to him backstage and ask ''How does it feel to kill Iraqi children?'' Do you think that attitude could be a factor? Most of those l see not wanting to meet military seem quite left-wing. Anyway, better not make it too political before someone has a nose bleed. Your being disingenuous Op, you solely want it to 'political' and anti men.. Seem to have a real issue with some women, particularly those who are left leaning.. Your bordering on the obsessive in your crusade as the threads you keep starting show.. Those that haven't been removed that is.. You have some deep issues.. Thank you for bringing conflict into it....You've soiled the thread and lt's the last comment l'm making on it. You've been blocked now. You are following me around and insulting me and on the last thread you mocked the state of my apparent ''mental health.'' lt's a public forum so we can all do what we want but keep on attacking me, ad hominem attacks and l'm going to start reporting you. Be a bully if you want. Your choice. Firstly your wrong about being followed and your blatantly lying as I never made any reference in your other thread to your mental health.. Yes it is a public forum and feel free to post but others will respond accordingly which is not bullying, as you clearly know.. " You have made repeated (at least 5 now) comments about me being ''hurt'' in the past. This is essentially refers to emotional baggage due to previous emotionally traumatic events...this IS mental or psychological health. ..You came to this thread of your own volition and made negative comments about be unprompted. l'm not on your thread... At least have the guts to be a bully opernly | |||
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"OK I'll say it. By & large I think it's an attitude thing & while one or two maybe don't meet because of where our forces have been working I think for most it will be because they don't want to risk the grief. I have a couple of ex army mates from my twenties, both are a mess, failed marriages, very domineering & controlling of their partners when they have them, who back in the day were many & never lasted. Now, i'm not saying all are like this nor that all non military are perfect, but it does seem the aggressiveness of males appears more often wearing a uniform. So I would hazard a guess that people want to lesson the risk of encountering it. The profile statement though is rather nonsensical bearing in mind people lie about their height, age, marital status & various other things more important than their jobs. Saying your a plumber rather than a soldier is hardly going to register as a big lie on here is it? S" l do feel that some actually prefer them too. l Some women like that overt masculinity of a uniform. | |||
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"OK I'll say it. By & large I think it's an attitude thing & while one or two maybe don't meet because of where our forces have been working I think for most it will be because they don't want to risk the grief. I have a couple of ex army mates from my twenties, both are a mess, failed marriages, very domineering & controlling of their partners when they have them, who back in the day were many & never lasted. Now, i'm not saying all are like this nor that all non military are perfect, but it does seem the aggressiveness of males appears more often wearing a uniform. So I would hazard a guess that people want to lesson the risk of encountering it. The profile statement though is rather nonsensical bearing in mind people lie about their height, age, marital status & various other things more important than their jobs. Saying your a plumber rather than a soldier is hardly going to register as a big lie on here is it? S l do feel that some actually prefer them too. l Some women like that overt masculinity of a uniform. " Hence my comment on them having many many short/shorter term relationships when younger. When they were still in. On a lighter note there are two ex Navy ladies here we dream of getting wet, but that's not going to happen, but we all need dreams right? ![]() | |||
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"OK I'll say it. By & large I think it's an attitude thing & while one or two maybe don't meet because of where our forces have been working I think for most it will be because they don't want to risk the grief. I have a couple of ex army mates from my twenties, both are a mess, failed marriages, very domineering & controlling of their partners when they have them, who back in the day were many & never lasted. Now, i'm not saying all are like this nor that all non military are perfect, but it does seem the aggressiveness of males appears more often wearing a uniform. So I would hazard a guess that people want to lesson the risk of encountering it. The profile statement though is rather nonsensical bearing in mind people lie about their height, age, marital status & various other things more important than their jobs. Saying your a plumber rather than a soldier is hardly going to register as a big lie on here is it? S l do feel that some actually prefer them too. l Some women like that overt masculinity of a uniform. " I do. I met B when he was in the Army. I loved the fact he was assertive and dominant. He has changed now or evolved is a better word. ![]() | |||
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"OK I'll say it. By & large I think it's an attitude thing & while one or two maybe don't meet because of where our forces have been working I think for most it will be because they don't want to risk the grief. I have a couple of ex army mates from my twenties, both are a mess, failed marriages, very domineering & controlling of their partners when they have them, who back in the day were many & never lasted. Now, i'm not saying all are like this nor that all non military are perfect, but it does seem the aggressiveness of males appears more often wearing a uniform. So I would hazard a guess that people want to lesson the risk of encountering it. The profile statement though is rather nonsensical bearing in mind people lie about their height, age, marital status & various other things more important than their jobs. Saying your a plumber rather than a soldier is hardly going to register as a big lie on here is it? S l do feel that some actually prefer them too. l Some women like that overt masculinity of a uniform. I do. I met B when he was in the Army. I loved the fact he was assertive and dominant. He has changed now or evolved is a better word. ![]() See, l wasn't just being controversial for the sake of it. l can see both sides for sure. ![]() | |||
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"Having lived in a garrison town for a big chunk of my life. And (seperately) served in the Army for 10 years. I personally think there is a higher proportion of misogynists and agressive guys in the armed forces than outside. Not to tar them all with the same brush, but were I a female I would be more careful there. That's fair, but it leads to an extremely dangerous road. Admitting inherent mean differences between demographic groups is extremely politically incorrect." Possibly, but it's not an apples to apples comparison. The forces are a rather specific demographic. Mostly young men (including the older men!), selected and trained for a certain degree of aggression. Plus the forces have been documented as being particularly racist/sexist/homophobic institutions. It's being combatted, but it's still there. | |||
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"I prefer to meet them, its not down to uniform at all its the banter that draws me. Having the majority of friends being in the forces and being used to that type of humour its a big attraction. Im yet to meet a civvi with the same level of humour...." To add balance to my other posts on this thread. Yup, my only "real" friends are the guys I know from the Army! | |||
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"I prefer to meet them, its not down to uniform at all its the banter that draws me. Having the majority of friends being in the forces and being used to that type of humour its a big attraction. Im yet to meet a civvi with the same level of humour.... To add balance to my other posts on this thread. Yup, my only "real" friends are the guys I know from the Army!" I love going to our annual regimental reunion. We dint really speak to each other all year then get together. Insult each other. Chat about nothing and get a tad d*unk. Nobody can understand the banter who hasn't served. | |||
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"l've seen some people say that they won't meet soldier, sailors, airmen and police. What is the motivation here and is it political?" Ask the people who say it. Anyone else is only guessing. Who ever is asked it's a pretty pointless exercise. I wouldn't meet with someone who advertises themselves through their job. ANY job. | |||
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"I don't like to meet any military because I was in that world for a long time myself. Gossip is massive. I am concerned that someone will recognize me and feel duty bound to report back to my ex. (that feeling is very common in the forces, they look after their own) Then the shit would hit the fan massively, my ex is a nasty piece of work with military 'brothers' all over the country. I've been at the rough end of this network once before so I'm staying far away. I appreciate the job these people do, but for my own sake I avoid them on a personal level. I checked the guest list of a party I was going to attend and recognised the partial face pictures and arm tattoo of my exes former boss. He may or may not have said anything as they were not on good terms, but no chance would I risk going to that gathering. That more understandable to me. l personally think that a lot of it is due to the demonisation of our military by some. l listen to the Jocko Willink Podcast and he has ex-MMA fighter, Brian Stann on and Stann had some other fighter walk up to him backstage and ask ''How does it feel to kill Iraqi children?'' Do you think that attitude could be a factor? Most of those l see not wanting to meet military seem quite left-wing. Anyway, better not make it too political before someone has a nose bleed. Your being disingenuous Op, you solely want it to 'political' and anti men.. Seem to have a real issue with some women, particularly those who are left leaning.. Your bordering on the obsessive in your crusade as the threads you keep starting show.. Those that haven't been removed that is.. You have some deep issues.. Thank you for bringing conflict into it....You've soiled the thread and lt's the last comment l'm making on it. You've been blocked now. You are following me around and insulting me and on the last thread you mocked the state of my apparent ''mental health.'' lt's a public forum so we can all do what we want but keep on attacking me, ad hominem attacks and l'm going to start reporting you. Be a bully if you want. Your choice. Firstly your wrong about being followed and your blatantly lying as I never made any reference in your other thread to your mental health.. Yes it is a public forum and feel free to post but others will respond accordingly which is not bullying, as you clearly know.. You have made repeated (at least 5 now) comments about me being ''hurt'' in the past. This is essentially refers to emotional baggage due to previous emotionally traumatic events...this IS mental or psychological health. ..You came to this thread of your own volition and made negative comments about be unprompted. l'm not on your thread... At least have the guts to be a bully opernly" Again you are wrong, either deliberately or some confusion on your part. Same with 'gang' .. Read the thread again I made the suggestion to you why not ask those to whom you refer, you chose to ignore it.. You said yourself you had been hurt and were annoyed on the other thread where you also spoke of lie hatred that women have for men.. | |||
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"I don't like to meet any military because I was in that world for a long time myself. Gossip is massive. I am concerned that someone will recognize me and feel duty bound to report back to my ex. (that feeling is very common in the forces, they look after their own) Then the shit would hit the fan massively, my ex is a nasty piece of work with military 'brothers' all over the country. I've been at the rough end of this network once before so I'm staying far away. I appreciate the job these people do, but for my own sake I avoid them on a personal level. I checked the guest list of a party I was going to attend and recognised the partial face pictures and arm tattoo of my exes former boss. He may or may not have said anything as they were not on good terms, but no chance would I risk going to that gathering. That more understandable to me. l personally think that a lot of it is due to the demonisation of our military by some. l listen to the Jocko Willink Podcast and he has ex-MMA fighter, Brian Stann on and Stann had some other fighter walk up to him backstage and ask ''How does it feel to kill Iraqi children?'' Do you think that attitude could be a factor? Most of those l see not wanting to meet military seem quite left-wing. Anyway, better not make it too political before someone has a nose bleed. Your being disingenuous Op, you solely want it to 'political' and anti men.. Seem to have a real issue with some women, particularly those who are left leaning.. Your bordering on the obsessive in your crusade as the threads you keep starting show.. Those that haven't been removed that is.. You have some deep issues.. Thank you for bringing conflict into it....You've soiled the thread and lt's the last comment l'm making on it. You've been blocked now. You are following me around and insulting me and on the last thread you mocked the state of my apparent ''mental health.'' lt's a public forum so we can all do what we want but keep on attacking me, ad hominem attacks and l'm going to start reporting you. Be a bully if you want. Your choice. Firstly your wrong about being followed and your blatantly lying as I never made any reference in your other thread to your mental health.. Yes it is a public forum and feel free to post but others will respond accordingly which is not bullying, as you clearly know.. You have made repeated (at least 5 now) comments about me being ''hurt'' in the past. This is essentially refers to emotional baggage due to previous emotionally traumatic events...this IS mental or psychological health. ..You came to this thread of your own volition and made negative comments about be unprompted. l'm not on your thread... At least have the guts to be a bully opernly Again you are wrong, either deliberately or some confusion on your part. Same with 'gang' .. Read the thread again I made the suggestion to you why not ask those to whom you refer, you chose to ignore it.. You said yourself you had been hurt and were annoyed on the other thread where you also spoke of lie hatred that women have for men.." Okay. You win. Please leave me alone now. | |||
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"l've seen some people say that they won't meet soldier, sailors, airmen and police. What is the motivation here and is it political?" Despite having friends in 3 of those 4 services and having played with people in one of them I wouldn't want to meet people who broadcast on a swinging site the fact that they are in them simply because i doubt we'd get on. And yes it's a sweeping generalisations but so are all preferences | |||
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"OK I'll say it. By & large I think it's an attitude thing & while one or two maybe don't meet because of where our forces have been working I think for most it will be because they don't want to risk the grief. I have a couple of ex army mates from my twenties, both are a mess, failed marriages, very domineering & controlling of their partners when they have them, who back in the day were many & never lasted. Now, i'm not saying all are like this nor that all non military are perfect, but it does seem the aggressiveness of males appears more often wearing a uniform. So I would hazard a guess that people want to lesson the risk of encountering it. The profile statement though is rather nonsensical bearing in mind people lie about their height, age, marital status & various other things more important than their jobs. Saying your a plumber rather than a soldier is hardly going to register as a big lie on here is it? S" I've an army friend and he describes the infantry lot as 'animals', for want of a better word. His words not mine. My TV friend bangs a lot of seemingly 'straight' army guys on this site. Personally, I just can't be arsed with all that shit and I'd rather meet people who are more available than the army lot tend to be. It says 'no army' on my profile. | |||
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"OK I'll say it. By & large I think it's an attitude thing & while one or two maybe don't meet because of where our forces have been working I think for most it will be because they don't want to risk the grief. I have a couple of ex army mates from my twenties, both are a mess, failed marriages, very domineering & controlling of their partners when they have them, who back in the day were many & never lasted. Now, i'm not saying all are like this nor that all non military are perfect, but it does seem the aggressiveness of males appears more often wearing a uniform. So I would hazard a guess that people want to lesson the risk of encountering it. The profile statement though is rather nonsensical bearing in mind people lie about their height, age, marital status & various other things more important than their jobs. Saying your a plumber rather than a soldier is hardly going to register as a big lie on here is it? S I've an army friend and he describes the infantry lot as 'animals', for want of a better word. His words not mine. My TV friend bangs a lot of seemingly 'straight' army guys on this site. Personally, I just can't be arsed with all that shit and I'd rather meet people who are more available than the army lot tend to be. It says 'no army' on my profile. " So one guy's comment informed your entire opinion on it? | |||
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"OK I'll say it. By & large I think it's an attitude thing & while one or two maybe don't meet because of where our forces have been working I think for most it will be because they don't want to risk the grief. I have a couple of ex army mates from my twenties, both are a mess, failed marriages, very domineering & controlling of their partners when they have them, who back in the day were many & never lasted. Now, i'm not saying all are like this nor that all non military are perfect, but it does seem the aggressiveness of males appears more often wearing a uniform. So I would hazard a guess that people want to lesson the risk of encountering it. The profile statement though is rather nonsensical bearing in mind people lie about their height, age, marital status & various other things more important than their jobs. Saying your a plumber rather than a soldier is hardly going to register as a big lie on here is it? S I've an army friend and he describes the infantry lot as 'animals', for want of a better word. His words not mine. My TV friend bangs a lot of seemingly 'straight' army guys on this site. Personally, I just can't be arsed with all that shit and I'd rather meet people who are more available than the army lot tend to be. It says 'no army' on my profile. So one guy's comment informed your entire opinion on it? " It may be only one guy's comment, coupled with a plethora of news articles about service personnel and the individuals attutude, that could help form people's opinion. But if I read correctly, it's because MrsR wants more availability than servicemen can offer. | |||
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"So I met an army guy about a month ago and he was hesitant to tell me he was army. Once he did he looked at me as though he was waiting for some comment to be made. When I did no such thing he just said 'so you are okay with it and what we do?' ... ummm... yes. Given that situation I think many people have negative thoughts about what it is the army does and then stereotype and judge them. " l half expect those barring servicemen in that manner to also have on their profile.. ''ISIS freedom fighters to the front of the que, especially if you are an VWE ISIS freedom fighter. No British scum'' | |||
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"Having lived in a garrison town for a big chunk of my life. And (seperately) served in the Army for 10 years. I personally think there is a higher proportion of misogynists and agressive guys in the armed forces than outside. Not to tar them all with the same brush, but were I a female I would be more careful there." ![]() | |||
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"Having lived in a garrison town for a big chunk of my life. And (seperately) served in the Army for 10 years. I personally think there is a higher proportion of misogynists and agressive guys in the armed forces than outside. Not to tar them all with the same brush, but were I a female I would be more careful there. ![]() Would you have the same carefulness regarding other demographics? This is where the double standard comes in. You can be wary of Army men and you can be wary of men in general because they statistically commit more crime, but if you were to say that you were wary of, say black men, because you saw crime stats with them compared to other races, then this would be called racist or at least classified as such. BTW, i do see some say things like ''no asian men'' on occasion - for sake of fairness. Why are we allowed to employ a pragmatic attitude regarding some groups but not others? | |||
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"So I met an army guy about a month ago and he was hesitant to tell me he was army. Once he did he looked at me as though he was waiting for some comment to be made. When I did no such thing he just said 'so you are okay with it and what we do?' ... ummm... yes. Given that situation I think many people have negative thoughts about what it is the army does and then stereotype and judge them. l half expect those barring servicemen in that manner to also have on their profile.. ''ISIS freedom fighters to the front of the que, especially if you are an VWE ISIS freedom fighter. No British scum''" ![]() | |||
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"So I met an army guy about a month ago and he was hesitant to tell me he was army. Once he did he looked at me as though he was waiting for some comment to be made. When I did no such thing he just said 'so you are okay with it and what we do?' ... ummm... yes. Given that situation I think many people have negative thoughts about what it is the army does and then stereotype and judge them. l half expect those barring servicemen in that manner to also have on their profile.. ''ISIS freedom fighters to the front of the que, especially if you are an VWE ISIS freedom fighter. No British scum'' ![]() My thoughts exactly ![]() | |||
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"So I met an army guy about a month ago and he was hesitant to tell me he was army. Once he did he looked at me as though he was waiting for some comment to be made. When I did no such thing he just said 'so you are okay with it and what we do?' ... ummm... yes. Given that situation I think many people have negative thoughts about what it is the army does and then stereotype and judge them. l half expect those barring servicemen in that manner to also have on their profile.. ''ISIS freedom fighters to the front of the que, especially if you are an VWE ISIS freedom fighter. No British scum'' ![]() ![]() Terrible isn't it? True though. | |||
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"So I met an army guy about a month ago and he was hesitant to tell me he was army. Once he did he looked at me as though he was waiting for some comment to be made. When I did no such thing he just said 'so you are okay with it and what we do?' ... ummm... yes. Given that situation I think many people have negative thoughts about what it is the army does and then stereotype and judge them. l half expect those barring servicemen in that manner to also have on their profile.. ''ISIS freedom fighters to the front of the que, especially if you are an VWE ISIS freedom fighter. No British scum''" What? ![]() ![]() | |||
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"So I met an army guy about a month ago and he was hesitant to tell me he was army. Once he did he looked at me as though he was waiting for some comment to be made. When I did no such thing he just said 'so you are okay with it and what we do?' ... ummm... yes. Given that situation I think many people have negative thoughts about what it is the army does and then stereotype and judge them. l half expect those barring servicemen in that manner to also have on their profile.. ''ISIS freedom fighters to the front of the que, especially if you are an VWE ISIS freedom fighter. No British scum''" Are you honestly suggesting that not wanting to fuck a soldier or policeman makes someone an IS sympathiser? | |||
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"So I met an army guy about a month ago and he was hesitant to tell me he was army. Once he did he looked at me as though he was waiting for some comment to be made. When I did no such thing he just said 'so you are okay with it and what we do?' ... ummm... yes. Given that situation I think many people have negative thoughts about what it is the army does and then stereotype and judge them. l half expect those barring servicemen in that manner to also have on their profile.. ''ISIS freedom fighters to the front of the que, especially if you are an VWE ISIS freedom fighter. No British scum'' What? ![]() ![]() 1 - l said ''in that manner'' 2 - lt's not far fetched. 3 - l KNOW the connotations. l think a small minority of people loathe Servicemen and women because they hate Western civilization. 4 - Telling people their views are null and void is authoritarianism. | |||
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"So I met an army guy about a month ago and he was hesitant to tell me he was army. Once he did he looked at me as though he was waiting for some comment to be made. When I did no such thing he just said 'so you are okay with it and what we do?' ... ummm... yes. Given that situation I think many people have negative thoughts about what it is the army does and then stereotype and judge them. l half expect those barring servicemen in that manner to also have on their profile.. ''ISIS freedom fighters to the front of the que, especially if you are an VWE ISIS freedom fighter. No British scum'' Are you honestly suggesting that not wanting to fuck a soldier or policeman makes someone an IS sympathiser?" l was being glib BUT in that context yes, though only a very small number. l grew up in the West of Scotland and personally met people who despised British soldiers because of Ulster. | |||
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" 3 - l KNOW the connotations. l think a small minority of people loathe Servicemen and women because they hate Western civilization. And you think those people are on a swinging site expressing a desire to not have sex with soldiers?" You never can tell but l doubt it for the most part. I know you want me to just say ''Yes'' so you can frame me in a certain manner, but alas. | |||
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"So I met an army guy about a month ago and he was hesitant to tell me he was army. Once he did he looked at me as though he was waiting for some comment to be made. When I did no such thing he just said 'so you are okay with it and what we do?' ... ummm... yes. Given that situation I think many people have negative thoughts about what it is the army does and then stereotype and judge them. l half expect those barring servicemen in that manner to also have on their profile.. ''ISIS freedom fighters to the front of the que, especially if you are an VWE ISIS freedom fighter. No British scum'' Are you honestly suggesting that not wanting to fuck a soldier or policeman makes someone an IS sympathiser? l was being glib BUT in that context yes, though only a very small number. l grew up in the West of Scotland and personally met people who despised British soldiers because of Ulster. " Is you world view really so limited that because of that you can see no other reason other than supporting an opposing side in a conflict people would dislike military personnel? Amd how does not wanting to fuck soneone because of their job equate to hating them? | |||
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" 3 - l KNOW the connotations. l think a small minority of people loathe Servicemen and women because they hate Western civilization. And you think those people are on a swinging site expressing a desire to not have sex with soldiers? You never can tell but l doubt it for the most part. I know you want me to just say ''Yes'' so you can frame me in a certain manner, but alas." I'm not trying to frame you in any manner. Just highlighting the ridiculous flaws in your argument | |||
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" My thoughts exactly ![]() ![]() l know. l personally know people who loathe British servicemen. There was a primary school teacher in Glasgow struck off for making pro-IRA and Sin Fein comments. l'm not saying it's the norm but l personally do think some people believe all the stuff they hear about soldiers. www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/ira-supporting-primary-teacher-pleads-7947075 Does that shock you as much as my comment? | |||
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"I wouldn't desire someone just because they were in the army/police, but I have had some jolly nice experiences with them. More to do with the person under the uniform maybe?" ![]() | |||
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"I do find it strange that people complain they only seem to attract idiots and bad people. I can only think, it must be them. " I'm a believer in the idiom "like attracts like" | |||
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"What if they never mentioned they were in the Services in their profile? Surely no one would be able to know???" I'm my limited experience you can tell... ![]() | |||
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"Anyway, l've gone off track so l'll call it a day. Understatement of the day, and it's not even past midday. ![]() Wow. What a bitchy male. | |||
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"Anyway, l've gone off track so l'll call it a day. Understatement of the day, and it's not even past midday. ![]() Unfortunately, I feel it is justifiable. You appeared to start a thread that could pose as a good discussion regarding people's personal opinions on why they don't meet service personnel and what it is that puts them off. Only for you to derail your comments by declaring you half expect them to have no British scum and all for Isis freedom fighters, paraphrased, on their page. Then declare that anybody who doesn't have sex with servicemen to be a Is sympathiser, again paraphrased. You've taken a massive leap of a ravine and fallen in the drink of your own will, with regards to some outrageous claims. | |||
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"So I met an army guy about a month ago and he was hesitant to tell me he was army. Once he did he looked at me as though he was waiting for some comment to be made. When I did no such thing he just said 'so you are okay with it and what we do?' ... ummm... yes. Given that situation I think many people have negative thoughts about what it is the army does and then stereotype and judge them. l half expect those barring servicemen in that manner to also have on their profile.. ''ISIS freedom fighters to the front of the que, especially if you are an VWE ISIS freedom fighter. No British scum'' ![]() ![]() Utter Fucking bollocks... Big hairy veiny ones at that! | |||
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"did have very much "chip on shoulder" at the beginning... and only got worse when using examples of justifications......." Yet no one refuted any of them... Until you do, it's just steam and public virtue signaling. | |||
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"Again, l never said anything about advertising it. Seems like you girls would remove that distinction so you have more licence to bad mouth them though. " Yet you are still ignoring the genuine reasons us women have given for not wanting to meet servicemen. Why is that? Is it because we don't fit into your reasoning? | |||
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"Again, l never said anything about advertising it. Seems like you girls would remove that distinction so you have more licence to bad mouth them though. Yet you are still ignoring the genuine reasons us women have given for not wanting to meet servicemen. Why is that? Is it because we don't fit into your reasoning? " how am l? As you can see, there are various different answers. Just because l don't swallow one particular answer and treat it as Gospel doesn't mean l'm ignoring it. | |||
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"Again, l never said anything about advertising it. Seems like you girls would remove that distinction so you have more licence to bad mouth them though. Yet you are still ignoring the genuine reasons us women have given for not wanting to meet servicemen. Why is that? Is it because we don't fit into your reasoning? how am l? As you can see, there are various different answers. Just because l don't swallow one particular answer and treat it as Gospel doesn't mean l'm ignoring it." Yes but you're still pushing the political point and not one woman has given that as a reason. Just wondered why. | |||
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"Again, l never said anything about advertising it. Seems like you girls would remove that distinction so you have more licence to bad mouth them though. " No we are giving reasons as to why we would not meet them and them advertising their job is one of those reasons. This doesn't fit your assumptions or agenda so you are trying to deflect them as always. Why ask questions of women (or couples) if you are not willing to a crept the answers you are given. You claim not to have an agenda here yet it is clear you do and any genuine answer that doesn't fit it is dismissed with condescension and patronising comments. If you know the answer you want then don't ask the question on a public forum. | |||
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"Again, l never said anything about advertising it. Seems like you girls would remove that distinction so you have more licence to bad mouth them though. Yet you are still ignoring the genuine reasons us women have given for not wanting to meet servicemen. Why is that? Is it because we don't fit into your reasoning? how am l? As you can see, there are various different answers. Just because l don't swallow one particular answer and treat it as Gospel doesn't mean l'm ignoring it." Not accepting an answer is one thing but completely dismissing them as not worthy answers is another. No one is asking you to accept anything as gospel but as the women who are answering are women who chose not to meet men for various reason you cannot dismiss their answers whole sale or project upon them as being ISIS sympathisers! | |||
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"Again, l never said anything about advertising it. Seems like you girls would remove that distinction so you have more licence to bad mouth them though. Yet you are still ignoring the genuine reasons us women have given for not wanting to meet servicemen. Why is that? Is it because we don't fit into your reasoning? how am l? As you can see, there are various different answers. Just because l don't swallow one particular answer and treat it as Gospel doesn't mean l'm ignoring it. Yes but you're still pushing the political point and not one woman has given that as a reason. Just wondered why. " Who would admit that? It would open them up for attack. l'm exploring the political point. You can replace ''political'' with ''Tribal.'' Our armed forces are very symbolic. l think this is the exact same reason why some also say ''No Asians''. l've seen that a fair bit too. Projecting nefarious intent upon an OP is unfair, happens too often and puts me on the defensive from the get go. | |||
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"Again, l never said anything about advertising it. Seems like you girls would remove that distinction so you have more licence to bad mouth them though. Yet you are still ignoring the genuine reasons us women have given for not wanting to meet servicemen. Why is that? Is it because we don't fit into your reasoning? how am l? As you can see, there are various different answers. Just because l don't swallow one particular answer and treat it as Gospel doesn't mean l'm ignoring it. Yes but you're still pushing the political point and not one woman has given that as a reason. Just wondered why. " Because it doesn't fit with his agenda is my assumption? The dogmatic arguing of a viewpoint that no one else has expressed seems an attempt to steer the thread in a certain direction | |||
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"Again, l never said anything about advertising it. Seems like you girls would remove that distinction so you have more licence to bad mouth them though. No we are giving reasons as to why we would not meet them and them advertising their job is one of those reasons. This doesn't fit your assumptions or agenda so you are trying to deflect them as always. Why ask questions of women (or couples) if you are not willing to a crept the answers you are given. You claim not to have an agenda here yet it is clear you do and any genuine answer that doesn't fit it is dismissed with condescension and patronising comments. If you know the answer you want then don't ask the question on a public forum. " Do you assume people are looking for personal answers when they ask a question Or perhaps they are curious about other aspect. If you are going to accuse me of ''condescension and patronising comments.'' then surely you'd look at the ones l receive? Whether any were in retaliation. etc 1 vs how many? lt's almost as if you want me to do as l'm told. To take my answer an leave. lt's really quite patronising, especially as you don't HAVE to interact with me. | |||
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"Again, l never said anything about advertising it. Seems like you girls would remove that distinction so you have more licence to bad mouth them though. Yet you are still ignoring the genuine reasons us women have given for not wanting to meet servicemen. Why is that? Is it because we don't fit into your reasoning? how am l? As you can see, there are various different answers. Just because l don't swallow one particular answer and treat it as Gospel doesn't mean l'm ignoring it. Not accepting an answer is one thing but completely dismissing them as not worthy answers is another. No one is asking you to accept anything as gospel but as the women who are answering are women who chose not to meet men for various reason you cannot dismiss their answers whole sale or project upon them as being ISIS sympathisers! " l was taking you completely seriously until the last sentence. If you think I was being serious(after explicitly saying l was being glib, into the bargain) then l can't help you. | |||
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"It isn't nefarious to state that you want there to be political reasons when there clearly aren't any expressed by those answering your question. Part of your question was 'is it political'. You are choosing not to believe any answer that doesn't have politics as a reason. " How have l? What constitutes, dismissing? | |||
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"Again, l never said anything about advertising it. Seems like you girls would remove that distinction so you have more licence to bad mouth them though. No we are giving reasons as to why we would not meet them and them advertising their job is one of those reasons. This doesn't fit your assumptions or agenda so you are trying to deflect them as always. Why ask questions of women (or couples) if you are not willing to a crept the answers you are given. You claim not to have an agenda here yet it is clear you do and any genuine answer that doesn't fit it is dismissed with condescension and patronising comments. If you know the answer you want then don't ask the question on a public forum. Do you assume people are looking for personal answers when they ask a question Or perhaps they are curious about other aspect. If you are going to accuse me of ''condescension and patronising comments.'' then surely you'd look at the ones l receive? Whether any were in retaliation. etc 1 vs how many? lt's almost as if you want me to do as l'm told. To take my answer an leave. lt's really quite patronising, especially as you don't HAVE to interact with me. " I'm not saying that at all but you don't want yer into discussion with people. You simply dismiss them. So you are curious about something. Does that then not imply you are looking for a variety of answers to help answer your questions? To develop an understanding of that which you are curious about? If people had simply replied 'no its not political' rather than give reasoning behind why they don't wish to play with service personnel would you have been satisfied? | |||
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"Again, l never said anything about advertising it. Seems like you girls would remove that distinction so you have more licence to bad mouth them though. Yet you are still ignoring the genuine reasons us women have given for not wanting to meet servicemen. Why is that? Is it because we don't fit into your reasoning? how am l? As you can see, there are various different answers. Just because l don't swallow one particular answer and treat it as Gospel doesn't mean l'm ignoring it. Yes but you're still pushing the political point and not one woman has given that as a reason. Just wondered why. Who would admit that? It would open them up for attack. l'm exploring the political point. You can replace ''political'' with ''Tribal.'' Our armed forces are very symbolic. l think this is the exact same reason why some also say ''No Asians''. l've seen that a fair bit too. Projecting nefarious intent upon an OP is unfair, happens too often and puts me on the defensive from the get go." I'm not one to shy away from putting my opinions across and find it offensive that you think people aren't agreeing with you because it opens them up to attack. I don't give any fucks about being attacked on here. I just don't think you're right and the opinions given by others backs up that point of view. | |||
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"Again, l never said anything about advertising it. Seems like you girls would remove that distinction so you have more licence to bad mouth them though. Yet you are still ignoring the genuine reasons us women have given for not wanting to meet servicemen. Why is that? Is it because we don't fit into your reasoning? how am l? As you can see, there are various different answers. Just because l don't swallow one particular answer and treat it as Gospel doesn't mean l'm ignoring it. Yes but you're still pushing the political point and not one woman has given that as a reason. Just wondered why. Who would admit that? It would open them up for attack. l'm exploring the political point. You can replace ''political'' with ''Tribal.'' Our armed forces are very symbolic. l think this is the exact same reason why some also say ''No Asians''. l've seen that a fair bit too. Projecting nefarious intent upon an OP is unfair, happens too often and puts me on the defensive from the get go. I'm not one to shy away from putting my opinions across and find it offensive that you think people aren't agreeing with you because it opens them up to attack. I don't give any fucks about being attacked on here. I just don't think you're right and the opinions given by others backs up that point of view." What the hell are you talking about?? You don't even know what l believe in order to agree with it or not. You don't seem to mind abusiveness directed towards me though. Empowerment! | |||
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"Again, l never said anything about advertising it. Seems like you girls would remove that distinction so you have more licence to bad mouth them though. Yet you are still ignoring the genuine reasons us women have given for not wanting to meet servicemen. Why is that? Is it because we don't fit into your reasoning? how am l? As you can see, there are various different answers. Just because l don't swallow one particular answer and treat it as Gospel doesn't mean l'm ignoring it. Yes but you're still pushing the political point and not one woman has given that as a reason. Just wondered why. Who would admit that? It would open them up for attack. l'm exploring the political point. You can replace ''political'' with ''Tribal.'' Our armed forces are very symbolic. l think this is the exact same reason why some also say ''No Asians''. l've seen that a fair bit too. Projecting nefarious intent upon an OP is unfair, happens too often and puts me on the defensive from the get go. I'm not one to shy away from putting my opinions across and find it offensive that you think people aren't agreeing with you because it opens them up to attack. I don't give any fucks about being attacked on here. I just don't think you're right and the opinions given by others backs up that point of view." Another reason l thought it was partly political was when one women actually attacked the army guys and said they were unemployable, etc. And l thought about all those guys who fought for us...Not one of you called her out. Not one of you even cared. Nahhh call out this cunt instead. | |||
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"I live in a military area and used to work in another. Whilst i am probably missing some gems, real life experience with them tends to make me stay away as a general rule. " Do you think that is why some people write ''No asians''? Bad experiences? There was a thread specifically about that before. | |||
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"Doesn't bother me unless they're using those professions as their only selling point While a person in uniform is a big turn on for some, just because you've served our country doesn't make you anymore entitled to have sex with me than any other person That goes for men and women in service which is why I said people in uniform not just men " That's fair. | |||
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"I prefer to meet them, its not down to uniform at all its the banter that draws me. Having the majority of friends being in the forces and being used to that type of humour its a big attraction. Im yet to meet a civvi with the same level of humour...." What humour is that? | |||
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"l've seen some people say that they won't meet soldier, sailors, airmen and police. What is the motivation here and is it political?" I wouldn't think it was political. We all have reasons for not meeting certain groups/types etc, it is often from experiences of said people. We have never met up with any of the people you mention, but we would not be biased either way, because they worked in uniformed professions. We would take them on face value and compatibility with us. ![]() | |||
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"Evie, Scarlett, why did you abandon me??? Lol." Pretty good answers all round. Thank you. | |||
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"I dont like to restrict based on occupation, it's all about chemistry! In my personal experience I have found firemen and policemen rather pleasant and much the same as everyone else, however lads in the forces, their banter, for the most part, is much better! Their stamina is unrivaled so for me it's hell yesss for heroes! That being said, each person has their own preferences and their own motives to put down a blanket ban. Wether it be moral, political or past experience, everyone is different. It's sad that people would tar a whole group of people with the same brush, but that's the nature of the site I'm afraid." I totally agree with this. It is down to the person, at the end of the day and we are all entitled to makes choices of whom we meet and have fun with ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Again, l never said anything about advertising it. Seems like you girls would remove that distinction so you have more licence to bad mouth them though. Yet you are still ignoring the genuine reasons us women have given for not wanting to meet servicemen. Why is that? Is it because we don't fit into your reasoning? how am l? As you can see, there are various different answers. Just because l don't swallow one particular answer and treat it as Gospel doesn't mean l'm ignoring it. Yes but you're still pushing the political point and not one woman has given that as a reason. Just wondered why. Who would admit that? It would open them up for attack. l'm exploring the political point. You can replace ''political'' with ''Tribal.'' Our armed forces are very symbolic. l think this is the exact same reason why some also say ''No Asians''. l've seen that a fair bit too. Projecting nefarious intent upon an OP is unfair, happens too often and puts me on the defensive from the get go. I'm not one to shy away from putting my opinions across and find it offensive that you think people aren't agreeing with you because it opens them up to attack. I don't give any fucks about being attacked on here. I just don't think you're right and the opinions given by others backs up that point of view. Another reason l thought it was partly political was when one women actually attacked the army guys and said they were unemployable, etc. And l thought about all those guys who fought for us...Not one of you called her out. Not one of you even cared. Nahhh call out this cunt instead. " I think people's definition of "fighting for us" sometimes differs from invading foreign countries and nicking their oil. That my have something to do with some people's dislike for armed forces people. Similarly the assumption that many forces folks display that they are due respect purely because of their job grates with some. It is also the case that certain personality types prevail in certain occupations and some people find some personality types fit with them better than others. Many reasons. Unfortunately in threads like this you have the chattering idiots who need to shoot people down to feel good about their own sad meaningless lives and you have had plenty of them appearing here calling you this and that, coupled with the internet's uncanny ability to render articulate human beings as baying idiots in response to that, threads like these really struggle to have any sensible discussion in them because it's a sad paradox that the people you need to have that discussion are those people who don't go near forums like this with a barge pole as they are often full of complete tossers. | |||
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"I dont like to restrict based on occupation, it's all about chemistry! In my personal experience I have found firemen and policemen rather pleasant and much the same as everyone else, however lads in the forces, their banter, for the most part, is much better! Their stamina is unrivaled so for me it's hell yesss for heroes! That being said, each person has their own preferences and their own motives to put down a blanket ban. Wether it be moral, political or past experience, everyone is different. It's sad that people would tar a whole group of people with the same brush, but that's the nature of the site I'm afraid." No one is suggesting that people may not make these choices. The thread is trying to glean WHY they are made. Simply saying that they are made does not move the discussion forward. Similarly writing it off as an impossible topic fails to do that too. | |||
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"Again, l never said anything about advertising it. Seems like you girls would remove that distinction so you have more licence to bad mouth them though. Yet you are still ignoring the genuine reasons us women have given for not wanting to meet servicemen. Why is that? Is it because we don't fit into your reasoning? how am l? As you can see, there are various different answers. Just because l don't swallow one particular answer and treat it as Gospel doesn't mean l'm ignoring it. Yes but you're still pushing the political point and not one woman has given that as a reason. Just wondered why. Who would admit that? It would open them up for attack. l'm exploring the political point. You can replace ''political'' with ''Tribal.'' Our armed forces are very symbolic. l think this is the exact same reason why some also say ''No Asians''. l've seen that a fair bit too. Projecting nefarious intent upon an OP is unfair, happens too often and puts me on the defensive from the get go. I'm not one to shy away from putting my opinions across and find it offensive that you think people aren't agreeing with you because it opens them up to attack. I don't give any fucks about being attacked on here. I just don't think you're right and the opinions given by others backs up that point of view. Another reason l thought it was partly political was when one women actually attacked the army guys and said they were unemployable, etc. And l thought about all those guys who fought for us...Not one of you called her out. Not one of you even cared. Nahhh call out this cunt instead. I think people's definition of "fighting for us" sometimes differs from invading foreign countries and nicking their oil. That my have something to do with some people's dislike for armed forces people. Similarly the assumption that many forces folks display that they are due respect purely because of their job grates with some. It is also the case that certain personality types prevail in certain occupations and some people find some personality types fit with them better than others. Many reasons. Unfortunately in threads like this you have the chattering idiots who need to shoot people down to feel good about their own sad meaningless lives and you have had plenty of them appearing here calling you this and that, coupled with the internet's uncanny ability to render articulate human beings as baying idiots in response to that, threads like these really struggle to have any sensible discussion in them because it's a sad paradox that the people you need to have that discussion are those people who don't go near forums like this with a barge pole as they are often full of complete tossers." Many of us gave our reasoning behind not wanting to meet service personnel yet the op insisted we were too scared to voice our true reasoning which he believes to be political, for fear of being attacked. That simply isn't true. When the op sees past that then maybe a sensible discussion can be had. | |||
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"Again, l never said anything about advertising it. Seems like you girls would remove that distinction so you have more licence to bad mouth them though. Yet you are still ignoring the genuine reasons us women have given for not wanting to meet servicemen. Why is that? Is it because we don't fit into your reasoning? how am l? As you can see, there are various different answers. Just because l don't swallow one particular answer and treat it as Gospel doesn't mean l'm ignoring it. Yes but you're still pushing the political point and not one woman has given that as a reason. Just wondered why. Who would admit that? It would open them up for attack. l'm exploring the political point. You can replace ''political'' with ''Tribal.'' Our armed forces are very symbolic. l think this is the exact same reason why some also say ''No Asians''. l've seen that a fair bit too. Projecting nefarious intent upon an OP is unfair, happens too often and puts me on the defensive from the get go. I'm not one to shy away from putting my opinions across and find it offensive that you think people aren't agreeing with you because it opens them up to attack. I don't give any fucks about being attacked on here. I just don't think you're right and the opinions given by others backs up that point of view. Another reason l thought it was partly political was when one women actually attacked the army guys and said they were unemployable, etc. And l thought about all those guys who fought for us...Not one of you called her out. Not one of you even cared. Nahhh call out this cunt instead. I think people's definition of "fighting for us" sometimes differs from invading foreign countries and nicking their oil. That my have something to do with some people's dislike for armed forces people. Similarly the assumption that many forces folks display that they are due respect purely because of their job grates with some. It is also the case that certain personality types prevail in certain occupations and some people find some personality types fit with them better than others. Many reasons. Unfortunately in threads like this you have the chattering idiots who need to shoot people down to feel good about their own sad meaningless lives and you have had plenty of them appearing here calling you this and that, coupled with the internet's uncanny ability to render articulate human beings as baying idiots in response to that, threads like these really struggle to have any sensible discussion in them because it's a sad paradox that the people you need to have that discussion are those people who don't go near forums like this with a barge pole as they are often full of complete tossers. Many of us gave our reasoning behind not wanting to meet service personnel yet the op insisted we were too scared to voice our true reasoning which he believes to be political, for fear of being attacked. That simply isn't true. When the op sees past that then maybe a sensible discussion can be had. " Yes, that's exactly what l said. ![]() | |||
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"Again, l never said anything about advertising it. Seems like you girls would remove that distinction so you have more licence to bad mouth them though. Yet you are still ignoring the genuine reasons us women have given for not wanting to meet servicemen. Why is that? Is it because we don't fit into your reasoning? how am l? As you can see, there are various different answers. Just because l don't swallow one particular answer and treat it as Gospel doesn't mean l'm ignoring it. Yes but you're still pushing the political point and not one woman has given that as a reason. Just wondered why. Who would admit that? It would open them up for attack. l'm exploring the political point. You can replace ''political'' with ''Tribal.'' Our armed forces are very symbolic. l think this is the exact same reason why some also say ''No Asians''. l've seen that a fair bit too. Projecting nefarious intent upon an OP is unfair, happens too often and puts me on the defensive from the get go. I'm not one to shy away from putting my opinions across and find it offensive that you think people aren't agreeing with you because it opens them up to attack. I don't give any fucks about being attacked on here. I just don't think you're right and the opinions given by others backs up that point of view. Another reason l thought it was partly political was when one women actually attacked the army guys and said they were unemployable, etc. And l thought about all those guys who fought for us...Not one of you called her out. Not one of you even cared. Nahhh call out this cunt instead. I think people's definition of "fighting for us" sometimes differs from invading foreign countries and nicking their oil. That my have something to do with some people's dislike for armed forces people. Similarly the assumption that many forces folks display that they are due respect purely because of their job grates with some. It is also the case that certain personality types prevail in certain occupations and some people find some personality types fit with them better than others. Many reasons. Unfortunately in threads like this you have the chattering idiots who need to shoot people down to feel good about their own sad meaningless lives and you have had plenty of them appearing here calling you this and that, coupled with the internet's uncanny ability to render articulate human beings as baying idiots in response to that, threads like these really struggle to have any sensible discussion in them because it's a sad paradox that the people you need to have that discussion are those people who don't go near forums like this with a barge pole as they are often full of complete tossers." Stealing oil? Invading? Thank you for bringing forth exactly the political points l was referring too. ![]() | |||
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"Again, l never said anything about advertising it. Seems like you girls would remove that distinction so you have more licence to bad mouth them though. Yet you are still ignoring the genuine reasons us women have given for not wanting to meet servicemen. Why is that? Is it because we don't fit into your reasoning? how am l? As you can see, there are various different answers. Just because l don't swallow one particular answer and treat it as Gospel doesn't mean l'm ignoring it. Yes but you're still pushing the political point and not one woman has given that as a reason. Just wondered why. Who would admit that? It would open them up for attack. l'm exploring the political point. You can replace ''political'' with ''Tribal.'' Our armed forces are very symbolic. l think this is the exact same reason why some also say ''No Asians''. l've seen that a fair bit too. Projecting nefarious intent upon an OP is unfair, happens too often and puts me on the defensive from the get go. I'm not one to shy away from putting my opinions across and find it offensive that you think people aren't agreeing with you because it opens them up to attack. I don't give any fucks about being attacked on here. I just don't think you're right and the opinions given by others backs up that point of view. Another reason l thought it was partly political was when one women actually attacked the army guys and said they were unemployable, etc. And l thought about all those guys who fought for us...Not one of you called her out. Not one of you even cared. Nahhh call out this cunt instead. I think people's definition of "fighting for us" sometimes differs from invading foreign countries and nicking their oil. That my have something to do with some people's dislike for armed forces people. Similarly the assumption that many forces folks display that they are due respect purely because of their job grates with some. It is also the case that certain personality types prevail in certain occupations and some people find some personality types fit with them better than others. Many reasons. Unfortunately in threads like this you have the chattering idiots who need to shoot people down to feel good about their own sad meaningless lives and you have had plenty of them appearing here calling you this and that, coupled with the internet's uncanny ability to render articulate human beings as baying idiots in response to that, threads like these really struggle to have any sensible discussion in them because it's a sad paradox that the people you need to have that discussion are those people who don't go near forums like this with a barge pole as they are often full of complete tossers. Stealing oil? Invading? Thank you for bringing forth exactly the political points l was referring too. ![]() How did we get into Iraq and Afghanistan without invading them? Why do we only see fit to introduce democracy into mineral rich countries? I posted an even post looking at both sides, try not to jump on people. | |||
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"No one is suggesting that people may not make these choices. The thread is trying to glean WHY they are made. Simply saying that they are made does not move the discussion forward. Similarly writing it off as an impossible topic fails to do that too." But that's my point, each person will have different reasons. Some of which I stated in my post. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Again, l never said anything about advertising it. Seems like you girls would remove that distinction so you have more licence to bad mouth them though. Yet you are still ignoring the genuine reasons us women have given for not wanting to meet servicemen. Why is that? Is it because we don't fit into your reasoning? how am l? As you can see, there are various different answers. Just because l don't swallow one particular answer and treat it as Gospel doesn't mean l'm ignoring it. Yes but you're still pushing the political point and not one woman has given that as a reason. Just wondered why. Who would admit that? It would open them up for attack. l'm exploring the political point. You can replace ''political'' with ''Tribal.'' Our armed forces are very symbolic. l think this is the exact same reason why some also say ''No Asians''. l've seen that a fair bit too. Projecting nefarious intent upon an OP is unfair, happens too often and puts me on the defensive from the get go. I'm not one to shy away from putting my opinions across and find it offensive that you think people aren't agreeing with you because it opens them up to attack. I don't give any fucks about being attacked on here. I just don't think you're right and the opinions given by others backs up that point of view. Another reason l thought it was partly political was when one women actually attacked the army guys and said they were unemployable, etc. And l thought about all those guys who fought for us...Not one of you called her out. Not one of you even cared. Nahhh call out this cunt instead. I think people's definition of "fighting for us" sometimes differs from invading foreign countries and nicking their oil. That my have something to do with some people's dislike for armed forces people. Similarly the assumption that many forces folks display that they are due respect purely because of their job grates with some. It is also the case that certain personality types prevail in certain occupations and some people find some personality types fit with them better than others. Many reasons. Unfortunately in threads like this you have the chattering idiots who need to shoot people down to feel good about their own sad meaningless lives and you have had plenty of them appearing here calling you this and that, coupled with the internet's uncanny ability to render articulate human beings as baying idiots in response to that, threads like these really struggle to have any sensible discussion in them because it's a sad paradox that the people you need to have that discussion are those people who don't go near forums like this with a barge pole as they are often full of complete tossers. Stealing oil? Invading? Thank you for bringing forth exactly the political points l was referring too. ![]() Maybe we're digressing, but in attempt to keep it slightly on track...Whilst service personnel effect the actual mechanics of invading,it's ultimately not their decision to implement? People opposed to conflict (I imagine most reasonable people are including those of us who've been involved in it) may quite rightly see some troops as a symbol of politics they disagree with. Though from objective viewpoint, I think the vast majority who wouldn't wish to meet them, are simply doing out of preference to perceived characters or bad experiences as opposed to ideals? | |||
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"Again, l never said anything about advertising it. Seems like you girls would remove that distinction so you have more licence to bad mouth them though. Yet you are still ignoring the genuine reasons us women have given for not wanting to meet servicemen. Why is that? Is it because we don't fit into your reasoning? how am l? As you can see, there are various different answers. Just because l don't swallow one particular answer and treat it as Gospel doesn't mean l'm ignoring it. Yes but you're still pushing the political point and not one woman has given that as a reason. Just wondered why. Who would admit that? It would open them up for attack. l'm exploring the political point. You can replace ''political'' with ''Tribal.'' Our armed forces are very symbolic. l think this is the exact same reason why some also say ''No Asians''. l've seen that a fair bit too. Projecting nefarious intent upon an OP is unfair, happens too often and puts me on the defensive from the get go. I'm not one to shy away from putting my opinions across and find it offensive that you think people aren't agreeing with you because it opens them up to attack. I don't give any fucks about being attacked on here. I just don't think you're right and the opinions given by others backs up that point of view. Another reason l thought it was partly political was when one women actually attacked the army guys and said they were unemployable, etc. And l thought about all those guys who fought for us...Not one of you called her out. Not one of you even cared. Nahhh call out this cunt instead. I think people's definition of "fighting for us" sometimes differs from invading foreign countries and nicking their oil. That my have something to do with some people's dislike for armed forces people. Similarly the assumption that many forces folks display that they are due respect purely because of their job grates with some. It is also the case that certain personality types prevail in certain occupations and some people find some personality types fit with them better than others. Many reasons. Unfortunately in threads like this you have the chattering idiots who need to shoot people down to feel good about their own sad meaningless lives and you have had plenty of them appearing here calling you this and that, coupled with the internet's uncanny ability to render articulate human beings as baying idiots in response to that, threads like these really struggle to have any sensible discussion in them because it's a sad paradox that the people you need to have that discussion are those people who don't go near forums like this with a barge pole as they are often full of complete tossers. Many of us gave our reasoning behind not wanting to meet service personnel yet the op insisted we were too scared to voice our true reasoning which he believes to be political, for fear of being attacked. That simply isn't true. When the op sees past that then maybe a sensible discussion can be had. Yes, that's exactly what l said. ![]() When you point a finger 3 point back at you ![]() ![]() | |||
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"What about those lovely young ladies that serve our country. I met a young WRAF at Raf Aldergrove many years ago who was so perfect we married and had two wonderful children. Ok in the end our marriage dropped away like a melting ice cream....but while it lasted it was summer everyday." What a lovely thing to say about your ex ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Again, l never said anything about advertising it. Seems like you girls would remove that distinction so you have more licence to bad mouth them though. Yet you are still ignoring the genuine reasons us women have given for not wanting to meet servicemen. Why is that? Is it because we don't fit into your reasoning? how am l? As you can see, there are various different answers. Just because l don't swallow one particular answer and treat it as Gospel doesn't mean l'm ignoring it. Yes but you're still pushing the political point and not one woman has given that as a reason. Just wondered why. Who would admit that? It would open them up for attack. l'm exploring the political point. You can replace ''political'' with ''Tribal.'' Our armed forces are very symbolic. l think this is the exact same reason why some also say ''No Asians''. l've seen that a fair bit too. Projecting nefarious intent upon an OP is unfair, happens too often and puts me on the defensive from the get go. I'm not one to shy away from putting my opinions across and find it offensive that you think people aren't agreeing with you because it opens them up to attack. I don't give any fucks about being attacked on here. I just don't think you're right and the opinions given by others backs up that point of view. Another reason l thought it was partly political was when one women actually attacked the army guys and said they were unemployable, etc. And l thought about all those guys who fought for us...Not one of you called her out. Not one of you even cared. Nahhh call out this cunt instead. I think people's definition of "fighting for us" sometimes differs from invading foreign countries and nicking their oil. That my have something to do with some people's dislike for armed forces people. Similarly the assumption that many forces folks display that they are due respect purely because of their job grates with some. It is also the case that certain personality types prevail in certain occupations and some people find some personality types fit with them better than others. Many reasons. Unfortunately in threads like this you have the chattering idiots who need to shoot people down to feel good about their own sad meaningless lives and you have had plenty of them appearing here calling you this and that, coupled with the internet's uncanny ability to render articulate human beings as baying idiots in response to that, threads like these really struggle to have any sensible discussion in them because it's a sad paradox that the people you need to have that discussion are those people who don't go near forums like this with a barge pole as they are often full of complete tossers. Stealing oil? Invading? Thank you for bringing forth exactly the political points l was referring too. ![]() It's impossible from this viewpoint to say what the majority does or does not think and when we say it one way or another we usually assume that the majority believes what we believe. Thus rendering our argument more or less moot. Soldiers generally don't make the choices, but they are free to quit. | |||
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"Again, l never said anything about advertising it. Seems like you girls would remove that distinction so you have more licence to bad mouth them though. Yet you are still ignoring the genuine reasons us women have given for not wanting to meet servicemen. Why is that? Is it because we don't fit into your reasoning? how am l? As you can see, there are various different answers. Just because l don't swallow one particular answer and treat it as Gospel doesn't mean l'm ignoring it. Yes but you're still pushing the political point and not one woman has given that as a reason. Just wondered why. Who would admit that? It would open them up for attack. l'm exploring the political point. You can replace ''political'' with ''Tribal.'' Our armed forces are very symbolic. l think this is the exact same reason why some also say ''No Asians''. l've seen that a fair bit too. Projecting nefarious intent upon an OP is unfair, happens too often and puts me on the defensive from the get go. I'm not one to shy away from putting my opinions across and find it offensive that you think people aren't agreeing with you because it opens them up to attack. I don't give any fucks about being attacked on here. I just don't think you're right and the opinions given by others backs up that point of view. Another reason l thought it was partly political was when one women actually attacked the army guys and said they were unemployable, etc. And l thought about all those guys who fought for us...Not one of you called her out. Not one of you even cared. Nahhh call out this cunt instead. I think people's definition of "fighting for us" sometimes differs from invading foreign countries and nicking their oil. That my have something to do with some people's dislike for armed forces people. Similarly the assumption that many forces folks display that they are due respect purely because of their job grates with some. It is also the case that certain personality types prevail in certain occupations and some people find some personality types fit with them better than others. Many reasons. Unfortunately in threads like this you have the chattering idiots who need to shoot people down to feel good about their own sad meaningless lives and you have had plenty of them appearing here calling you this and that, coupled with the internet's uncanny ability to render articulate human beings as baying idiots in response to that, threads like these really struggle to have any sensible discussion in them because it's a sad paradox that the people you need to have that discussion are those people who don't go near forums like this with a barge pole as they are often full of complete tossers. Many of us gave our reasoning behind not wanting to meet service personnel yet the op insisted we were too scared to voice our true reasoning which he believes to be political, for fear of being attacked. That simply isn't true. When the op sees past that then maybe a sensible discussion can be had. Yes, that's exactly what l said. ![]() I may be talking bullshit but I've still yet to read one comment from someone who won't meet service personnel who claims it's because of political reasons (even partly) . ..until they do i can't agree with your reasoning. I've ignored the comment about those from the services being unemployable because I don't see what it has to do with anything. It's just a random comment from one person. | |||
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"Again, l never said anything about advertising it. Seems like you girls would remove that distinction so you have more licence to bad mouth them though. Yet you are still ignoring the genuine reasons us women have given for not wanting to meet servicemen. Why is that? Is it because we don't fit into your reasoning? how am l? As you can see, there are various different answers. Just because l don't swallow one particular answer and treat it as Gospel doesn't mean l'm ignoring it. Yes but you're still pushing the political point and not one woman has given that as a reason. Just wondered why. Who would admit that? It would open them up for attack. l'm exploring the political point. You can replace ''political'' with ''Tribal.'' Our armed forces are very symbolic. l think this is the exact same reason why some also say ''No Asians''. l've seen that a fair bit too. Projecting nefarious intent upon an OP is unfair, happens too often and puts me on the defensive from the get go. I'm not one to shy away from putting my opinions across and find it offensive that you think people aren't agreeing with you because it opens them up to attack. I don't give any fucks about being attacked on here. I just don't think you're right and the opinions given by others backs up that point of view. Another reason l thought it was partly political was when one women actually attacked the army guys and said they were unemployable, etc. And l thought about all those guys who fought for us...Not one of you called her out. Not one of you even cared. Nahhh call out this cunt instead. I think people's definition of "fighting for us" sometimes differs from invading foreign countries and nicking their oil. That my have something to do with some people's dislike for armed forces people. Similarly the assumption that many forces folks display that they are due respect purely because of their job grates with some. It is also the case that certain personality types prevail in certain occupations and some people find some personality types fit with them better than others. Many reasons. Unfortunately in threads like this you have the chattering idiots who need to shoot people down to feel good about their own sad meaningless lives and you have had plenty of them appearing here calling you this and that, coupled with the internet's uncanny ability to render articulate human beings as baying idiots in response to that, threads like these really struggle to have any sensible discussion in them because it's a sad paradox that the people you need to have that discussion are those people who don't go near forums like this with a barge pole as they are often full of complete tossers. Stealing oil? Invading? Thank you for bringing forth exactly the political points l was referring too. ![]() True, there's thousands of people on site not providing their opinions. However soldiers are trained and conditioned not to quit. It's a trait that not everyone will understand. Camaraderie bonds them and to be honest rarely are they fighting for the political cause. More a case of esprit de corps. Maybe it's these common personality traits they find distasteful. Anyway it's simply a preference and we're all entitled to them. | |||
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"My reasons are simple and nothing political based whatsoever ever. ![]() So are most people's. Apart from a handful of backward sectarian (English hating) Scots, and maybe the odd crusty that the OP has apperently bumped into. Not the best measure of the entire site's opinion. | |||
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"My reasons are simple and nothing political based whatsoever ever. ![]() Good job I'm Married to a solider, who's a Scotsman then isn't it ![]() ![]() | |||
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"My reasons are simple and nothing political based whatsoever ever. ![]() ![]() ![]() Lol An unrepresentatively large number were sweaties when I was in also. Funilly enough I also married a Scottish soldier. | |||
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"OK I'll say it. By & large I think it's an attitude thing & while one or two maybe don't meet because of where our forces have been working I think for most it will be because they don't want to risk the grief. I have a couple of ex army mates from my twenties, both are a mess, failed marriages, very domineering & controlling of their partners when they have them, who back in the day were many & never lasted. Now, i'm not saying all are like this nor that all non military are perfect, but it does seem the aggressiveness of males appears more often wearing a uniform. So I would hazard a guess that people want to lesson the risk of encountering it. The profile statement though is rather nonsensical bearing in mind people lie about their height, age, marital status & various other things more important than their jobs. Saying your a plumber rather than a soldier is hardly going to register as a big lie on here is it? S I've an army friend and he describes the infantry lot as 'animals', for want of a better word. His words not mine. My TV friend bangs a lot of seemingly 'straight' army guys on this site. Personally, I just can't be arsed with all that shit and I'd rather meet people who are more available than the army lot tend to be. It says 'no army' on my profile. " To say an infantry soldier is an animal is truly a complete insult. I was in the infantry for just over 22 years and I have seen grown men , hard men cry like babies at sights they saw in Bosnia and yes I cried too. I've seen soldiers feed starving children. Give families in fear hope. So it's a shame that your friends description was so insulting. | |||
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"OK I'll say it. By & large I think it's an attitude thing & while one or two maybe don't meet because of where our forces have been working I think for most it will be because they don't want to risk the grief. I have a couple of ex army mates from my twenties, both are a mess, failed marriages, very domineering & controlling of their partners when they have them, who back in the day were many & never lasted. Now, i'm not saying all are like this nor that all non military are perfect, but it does seem the aggressiveness of males appears more often wearing a uniform. So I would hazard a guess that people want to lesson the risk of encountering it. The profile statement though is rather nonsensical bearing in mind people lie about their height, age, marital status & various other things more important than their jobs. Saying your a plumber rather than a soldier is hardly going to register as a big lie on here is it? S I've an army friend and he describes the infantry lot as 'animals', for want of a better word. His words not mine. My TV friend bangs a lot of seemingly 'straight' army guys on this site. Personally, I just can't be arsed with all that shit and I'd rather meet people who are more available than the army lot tend to be. It says 'no army' on my profile. To say an infantry soldier is an animal is truly a complete insult. I was in the infantry for just over 22 years and I have seen grown men , hard men cry like babies at sights they saw in Bosnia and yes I cried too. I've seen soldiers feed starving children. Give families in fear hope. So it's a shame that your friends description was so insulting." Well said! I would like to see some posting on here like the op walk a year in a soldiers boots with a tour thrown in for good measure. | |||
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"Ive seen a squaddie in action. The stamina was flawless. Support our troops " We do B loves meeting squaddies | |||
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"OK I'll say it. By & large I think it's an attitude thing & while one or two maybe don't meet because of where our forces have been working I think for most it will be because they don't want to risk the grief. I have a couple of ex army mates from my twenties, both are a mess, failed marriages, very domineering & controlling of their partners when they have them, who back in the day were many & never lasted. Now, i'm not saying all are like this nor that all non military are perfect, but it does seem the aggressiveness of males appears more often wearing a uniform. So I would hazard a guess that people want to lesson the risk of encountering it. The profile statement though is rather nonsensical bearing in mind people lie about their height, age, marital status & various other things more important than their jobs. Saying your a plumber rather than a soldier is hardly going to register as a big lie on here is it? S I've an army friend and he describes the infantry lot as 'animals', for want of a better word. His words not mine. My TV friend bangs a lot of seemingly 'straight' army guys on this site. Personally, I just can't be arsed with all that shit and I'd rather meet people who are more available than the army lot tend to be. It says 'no army' on my profile. To say an infantry soldier is an animal is truly a complete insult. I was in the infantry for just over 22 years and I have seen grown men , hard men cry like babies at sights they saw in Bosnia and yes I cried too. I've seen soldiers feed starving children. Give families in fear hope. So it's a shame that your friends description was so insulting." To be fair, not many service personnel would give a flying fuck what some no mark thinks of them. | |||
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" To say an infantry soldier is an animal is truly a complete insult. I was in the infantry for just over 22 years and I have seen grown men , hard men cry like babies at sights they saw in Bosnia and yes I cried too. I've seen soldiers feed starving children. Give families in fear hope. So it's a shame that your friends description was so insulting. Well said! I would like to see some posting on here like the op walk a year in a soldiers boots with a tour thrown in for good measure. " I recognise and resect the difficult work done by our people in uniform and I fully understand mistakes do get made under pressure and stress,,,,,, The frailties and strengths of each individual are simply a natural consequence of the human condition and are instrumental in the process of making good and bad judgment. So this might sound overly simplistic view, but if service personnel were conscripted I could empathise to a greater degree with those who struggle with the implication of being involved in combat situations..... But to the best of my knowledge these days they are all volunteers in the armed forces and like any employees in any work related environment they are all accountable for their actions and inactions ... People don't get to join the armed forces blind of the implication of what might be required of them and simply donning a service uniform does not grant the automatic privilege of public respect and hero status particularly in situations where an individual fails in the dereliction of their duty to a point which further inflames situations they are meant to placate... We cant absolve criminal activity by dressing its perpetrator in uniform... ![]() | |||
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