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"If your unlucky on this site why do you think that is. Lots of guys do seem to get meets and there not all brad pitt so what is it do you think" Co's I'm big, not great looking, slightly balding, and my Sub is a shit load better looking than me so any girls that want her don't want me. #holdingherbackalittle. BUT I'm working on it. #operationhotbod | |||
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"I just use this site for the forum. I am on another site for meets " Do the women on there know you use their pics on here? | |||
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"I just use this site for the forum. I am on another site for meets Do the women on there know you use their pics on here?" Yes they do | |||
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"I just use this site for the forum. I am on another site for meets Do the women on there know you use their pics on here?Yes they do " I recognise her!!!!! | |||
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"I just use this site for the forum. I am on another site for meets Do the women on there know you use their pics on here?Yes they do I recognise her!!!!! " lol good one. | |||
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"If your unlucky on this site why do you think that is. Lots of guys do seem to get meets and there not all brad pitt so what is it do you think" I'm not really looking so I'm indifferent | |||
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"I just use this site for the forum. I am on another site for meets Do the women on there know you use their pics on here?Yes they do I recognise her!!!!! lol good one." always good for a laugh | |||
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"I just use this site for the forum. I am on another site for meets Do the women on there know you use their pics on here?Yes they do I recognise her!!!!! lol good one. always good for a laugh " That is right, it is well lol | |||
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"Quite simple - the single male to female ratio is ridiculous. 500:1 last time I checked " So what? How can other men stop you from meeting? | |||
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"Quite simple - the single male to female ratio is ridiculous. 500:1 last time I checked " so why is there a lot of guys on here who are successful then and as i said they dont all look like brad pitt | |||
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"I'm Brad Pitt Brad ArmPitt, that is...." Ha ha like that!! You've a sense of humour and can chat, which is very attractive to all sexes! | |||
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"This will sound unintentionally arrogant but the only reason I don;t get meets id because I don't look for them. I've never struggled on this or other similar sites and while I;m okay looking I'm also tall, skinny and with no fashion sense whatsoever so very much an acquired taste. But I know how to communicate, know how to write a decent profile and as mucg as I hate the word, I'm genuine. So I can accommodate, I;m flexxible and potential meets aren;t limited to tiny wondows of opportunity. I think those are significant reasons why I used to do well" i think thats the exact reasons you did well. Oddly it seems to be what all the succesful men have in common | |||
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"Quite simple - the single male to female ratio is ridiculous. 500:1 last time I checked So what? How can other men stop you from meeting? " Single female inboxes are constantly over flooded with messagesalong with some couples (who dont block single males) So the odds on them actually reading your message is very slim let alone getting a reply due to the ratios. Even worse when you do get a reply and strike up a conversation. Your messages can get lost since and therefore potentially your conversation gets lost. | |||
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"There has to be a connection the banter the laughs and jokes and nothing seedy it's not going to happen in one or two messages " Three message rule | |||
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"There has to be a connection the banter the laughs and jokes and nothing seedy it's not going to happen in one or two messages Three message rule " Might even be four | |||
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"Quite simple - the single male to female ratio is ridiculous. 500:1 last time I checked So what? How can other men stop you from meeting? Single female inboxes are constantly over flooded with messagesalong with some couples (who dont block single males) So the odds on them actually reading your message is very slim let alone getting a reply due to the ratios. Even worse when you do get a reply and strike up a conversation. Your messages can get lost since and therefore potentially your conversation gets lost. " Sorry, I don't agree. People will respond to an interesting and well written message if they are interested in you. If a message is unimaginative and lacks a sense of social skill then it would be quite rightly ignored. Peoples time is valuable so ones message needs to be better than the "competition". Except, of course, no one is competing with anyone. It's too easy to blame things one has no control over, like other men for example, rather than change things to make the site work for oneself. | |||
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"There has to be a connection the banter the laughs and jokes and nothing seedy it's not going to happen in one or two messages " Totally correct people who think their gonna get a meet after two messages are deluded. You have to strike some sort of connection and chemistry but as I said when your inbox is constantly flooded trying to keep on topnof messages can be a nightmare. | |||
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"There has to be a connection the banter the laughs and jokes and nothing seedy it's not going to happen in one or two messages Three message rule " Platinum members only | |||
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"There has to be a connection the banter the laughs and jokes and nothing seedy it's not going to happen in one or two messages Totally correct people who think their gonna get a meet after two messages are deluded. You have to strike some sort of connection and chemistry but as I said when your inbox is constantly flooded trying to keep on topnof messages can be a nightmare. " You have to stand out in the crowd be different | |||
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"Quite simple - the single male to female ratio is ridiculous. 500:1 last time I checked So what? How can other men stop you from meeting? Single female inboxes are constantly over flooded with messagesalong with some couples (who dont block single males) So the odds on them actually reading your message is very slim let alone getting a reply due to the ratios. Even worse when you do get a reply and strike up a conversation. Your messages can get lost since and therefore potentially your conversation gets lost. Sorry, I don't agree. People will respond to an interesting and well written message if they are interested in you. If a message is unimaginative and lacks a sense of social skill then it would be quite rightly ignored. Peoples time is valuable so ones message needs to be better than the "competition". Except, of course, no one is competing with anyone. It's too easy to blame things one has no control over, like other men for example, rather than change things to make the site work for oneself. " great reply stevieboy | |||
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" Sorry, I don't agree. People will respond to an interesting and well written message if they are interested in you. If a message is unimaginative and lacks a sense of social skill then it would be quite rightly ignored. Peoples time is valuable so ones message needs to be better than the "competition". Except, of course, no one is competing with anyone. It's too easy to blame things one has no control over, like other men for example, rather than change things to make the site work for oneself. " The amount of unread messages that get left unread and deleted without being opened is absurd. You read the forums and status with regards to the amount of unread messages and flooded inboxes is quite common. Even on meets I have been told by women "oh ive got 100+ unread messages and dont have time to read them so im gonna just delete my inbox" So how does the "interesting and well written message" get read ?? | |||
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" The amount of unread messages that get left unread and deleted without being opened is absurd. You read the forums and status with regards to the amount of unread messages and flooded inboxes is quite common. Even on meets I have been told by women "oh ive got 100+ unread messages and dont have time to read them so im gonna just delete my inbox" So how does the "interesting and well written message" get read ?? " I think people forget there is a life outside of the forum, around half a million mails a day are sent , a lot of them from people who don't use the forum so I am sure lots of peoples mails will be overlooked, no matter how interesting it may be. | |||
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"Quite simple - the single male to female ratio is ridiculous. 500:1 last time I checked So what? How can other men stop you from meeting? Single female inboxes are constantly over flooded with messagesalong with some couples (who dont block single males) So the odds on them actually reading your message is very slim let alone getting a reply due to the ratios. Even worse when you do get a reply and strike up a conversation. Your messages can get lost since and therefore potentially your conversation gets lost. " I have to disagree somewhat. I look at all my messages and respond to anyone I like the look of. | |||
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" Sorry, I don't agree. People will respond to an interesting and well written message if they are interested in you. If a message is unimaginative and lacks a sense of social skill then it would be quite rightly ignored. Peoples time is valuable so ones message needs to be better than the "competition". Except, of course, no one is competing with anyone. It's too easy to blame things one has no control over, like other men for example, rather than change things to make the site work for oneself. The amount of unread messages that get left unread and deleted without being opened is absurd. You read the forums and status with regards to the amount of unread messages and flooded inboxes is quite common. Even on meets I have been told by women "oh ive got 100+ unread messages and dont have time to read them so im gonna just delete my inbox" So how does the "interesting and well written message" get read ?? " I think from a single males point of view the messaging system is basically broken and almost a waste of time when it comes to making initial contact. I do ok on here but not usually by messaging Women, I find it's better to use other parts of the site to get noticed and let those who are interested contact me. One thing I think stops guys getting meets is coming over desperate. Desperation isn't attractive and you can tell the guys who are using the site when they're horny and thinking with their cock. | |||
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"Simple really, The ones I would like to meet wouldn't meet me, Well 99% of them " Welcome to the too good looking club | |||
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"Because I deliberately try to repel others now" What a lovely avatar you have.... | |||
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"Because I deliberately try to repel others now What a lovely avatar you have.... " My arse | |||
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"Because I deliberately try to repel others now What a lovely avatar you have.... My arse " Looks nice and clear. | |||
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"I suspect it's a combination if looks, attitude and personality." I agree. I have to rely that someone might actually like me. | |||
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"If your unlucky on this site why do you think that is. Lots of guys do seem to get meets and there not all brad pitt so what is it do you think" 1. I'm 46. An awful lot of people have 45 as a cut-off point, it seems. 2. I'm bi 3. I'm married (albeit divorcing) 4. I'm not playing as a couple 5. I'm overweight 6. I tend to look over profiles and decide that I wouldn't be what they're looking for, so don't end up approaching anyone much. 7. And most importantly, I think, I have no verifications. I've met people on here, but they've either been women who prefer not to leave them and have asked me not to, or men who like playing with other men, but prefer to appear to be straight. I have verifications on fabguys, but that takes us back to point 2. | |||
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"Too impatient?" Too ugly | |||
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"I suspect it's a combination if looks, attitude and personality." Thats me f**ked , and not in a good way | |||
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"lt's all about what you are willing to accept as a man. You need to be willing to be treated like trash by some. Paying quadruple what and women and couples pay, demanding you meet right now etc. Making YOU jump though the hoops when everyone is equal. Doing what you are told essentially l the ''The non-pushy guy'' archetype. As a result l am very very rarely looking for a meet. And only with girls that don't have this attitude. " I won't bow to reduculous demands from anyone, they can do their own bloody dishes | |||
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"Im not Shor ....... It's ever no one is interested Or Im just to far away." I,m interested, you're too far away, if I lived in your area I would love to meet you XXX | |||
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"If your unlucky on this site why do you think that is. Lots of guys do seem to get meets and there not all brad pitt so what is it do you think" I think most people have touched on the main reasons but it also depends on what you mean by 'unkucky'. Fab offers me few meets... Why? Because I don't approach people on here, they'll find me. That's not unlucky is it,thats just being available and open to the possibility of meeting some great people. For the guys who are unlucky, well I feel for them. Taking ages to write messages that are just deleted, expected to jump through hoops, expected to lower standards (regardless of what you think someone's standards should be), expected to pay hotel costs or expenses.. The list goes on. And I think that those that do get lots of meets are the ones that got lucky a couple of times. Once you are in the click and get a couple of veris then your profile naturally grows in stature... You then start to inevitably leave to other profiles behind in your area. | |||
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"I notice that a lot of men on this thread have stated that a lot of their messages go unread. You are probably wrong in that assumption as you know we can read the first few lines without opening the message and 'good morning, how are you' does get really tedious, plus I always look at a profile first.......it's not my fault that most men seem to think a one liner will suffice and will have the women flocking to them with their knickers round their ankles " Can see where I've being going wrong now | |||
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" 1. I'm 46. An awful lot of people have 45 as a cut-off point, it seems. 2. I can't accommodate 3. I'm married albeit playing discreetly with her knowledge. Long story. 4. I'm not playing as a couple 5. I'm slightly overweight 6. I tend to look over profiles and decide that I wouldn't be what they're looking for, so don't end up approaching anyone much. 7. And most importantly, I think, I have no verifications. I was here before but left to have a break and decide not to just hide my profile so veris went. " Oi! | |||
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"Do the guys who do get many meets feel they're treading water in the deep end though? I was surprised anyone actually agreed to meet me at all, and my astonishment stems from posts from other people in the forums. " Well, when you hold a gun to their head you're not really giving them a lot of options | |||
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"Do the guys who do get many meets feel they're treading water in the deep end though? I was surprised anyone actually agreed to meet me at all, and my astonishment stems from posts from other people in the forums. Well, when you hold a gun to their head you're not really giving them a lot of options " I hold my weapon in their mouth | |||
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"If you send out enough invites to the party in your pants, someone is bound to RSVP." How many more do I need to send to you? Help me out? | |||
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"Do the guys who do get many meets feel they're treading water in the deep end though? I was surprised anyone actually agreed to meet me at all, and my astonishment stems from posts from other people in the forums. " I'd meet you | |||
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"Do the guys who do get many meets feel they're treading water in the deep end though? I was surprised anyone actually agreed to meet me at all, and my astonishment stems from posts from other people in the forums. I'd meet you " Yes! *fist pump. | |||
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"I've had male friends tell me in the past when they stopped actively looking for meets & started interacting more in the forums / chat rooms / uploading pics they did an awful lot better as a result. " I've always been active in the forum, but I think perhaps that's the problem. | |||
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"I've had male friends tell me in the past when they stopped actively looking for meets & started interacting more in the forums / chat rooms / uploading pics they did an awful lot better as a result. I've always been active in the forum, but I think perhaps that's the problem. " I've thought this too. It's all complicated isn't it. | |||
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"I'm Brad Pitt " I would | |||
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"Massive dick" I'm sure you're not that bad | |||
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"It's really not hard to get meets off here if you want them, without lowering your standards or any of that bullshit. I honestly don't know why blokes struggle." Because most blokes have an almost complete inability to hold a reasonable conversation. I've seen with my own eyes some of the messages that get sent. My first message is usually something light and slightly witty and that will do "ok" for a single guy on here. | |||
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"I suspect it's a combination if looks, attitude and personality." Geography also helps | |||
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"You can't please everyone anyway, when I first joined a year ago getting the first veri was a nightmare and nobody would meet me without one. 11 months later and now my verifications are approaching 20 there are women who won't meet me because I have too many!" I agree with you here; "Sorry you're too active for me" I've received a few times | |||
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"I've had male friends tell me in the past when they stopped actively looking for meets & started interacting more in the forums / chat rooms / uploading pics they did an awful lot better as a result. I've always been active in the forum, but I think perhaps that's the problem. I've thought this too. It's all complicated isn't it. " Guys; the girls read these posts so for God's sake don't mention the 'C' word or the wrath of the Sisterhood will be upon you | |||
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"I just use this site for the forum. I am on another site for meets " what's this other site called i think it time to try something else | |||
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"Genuinely wish I knew, send polite messages and when rejected never send vile response, just say "okay, thank you for the time to message me". Although that said I've got a feeling that must women go for the "cigarette smoking leather clad motor biker rebel, shag " em and leave 'em types" rather than the honest caring blokes, namely yours truly. " Are we in the 1950's? | |||
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"Genuinely wish I knew, send polite messages and when rejected never send vile response, just say "okay, thank you for the time to message me". Although that said I've got a feeling that must women go for the "cigarette smoking leather clad motor biker rebel, shag " em and leave 'em types" rather than the honest caring blokes, namely yours truly. Are we in the 1950's? " Just beat me to it, priceless | |||
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"Genuinely wish I knew, send polite messages and when rejected never send vile response, just say "okay, thank you for the time to message me". Although that said I've got a feeling that must women go for the "cigarette smoking leather clad motor biker rebel, shag " em and leave 'em types" rather than the honest caring blokes, namely yours truly. Are we in the 1950's? Just beat me to it, priceless " By 2hrs 53 minutes! priceless | |||
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"The site is what you make it " Exactly... we're not all useless at getting meets | |||
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"I've recently joined so I believe once I get settled all will be well Stay positive guys!!" Oh my! Yes I don't think you will have any problem getting meets | |||
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"This site it unpredictable, one week I will have plenty of options another day (today for example) is as dry as a bone." I love having options. I also love it dry as a bone. | |||
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"1. I'm 47. As others have said, people have 45 as a cut-off point, but others don't. Many others. 2. I can accommodate - this is a big plus. Many potential meets will not meet someone that can't as it can indicate 'playing away from home' (which I actually have no issue with, in spite of finding my ex-wife doing exactly that. It's how I discovered FAB!!) 3. I'm slightly overweight - big deal. Some women like 'em cuddly! 4. I had a mindset for a while that I wouldn't be up to par for some women/couples, so I didn't bother to contact them. Big mistake to make, and I have gone back to my original theory on here - if you don't even try, you will never know. 5. I have plenty of good veris - admittedly not all recent, and many are from socials. But it does show I am a real person, and willing to meet. 6. Pics. No public stick waving (in underwear though, yes - it's a good tease!). Face pics - mine are public, others may want theirs private, but at least have *one* that you can send in a message guys!! Variety - Mine are definitely varied! Full length body, clothed and not, torso, face, nether regions, bum (cheeky!) all there and all add to create a more rounded view of me. 7. I am just a 'Mr Average' on here - not a VWE, an Adonis, or an oil painting (well, maybe a Picasso!). Normal, average length with a bit of girth in the trouser department, balding, yes, but close cropped so no so obvious (besides, isn't it supposed to be a sign of virility?), a little excess fat (or love handles) But you know what - none of that matters. Someone out there is looking for exactly that. 8. A sense of humour (well, allegedly) and that seems to help tremendously! 8. Decorum and decency - I am not about to write a message to someone that says "Fancy a shag luv?"... No, I take a more considered approach, think carefully what I am going to write, perhaps based around something on the recipient's profile, and carefully worded with grammar and spelling carefully checked (I know it shouldn't matter, and I never judge others on it, but many will) It is surprising how many guys will still scatter bomb the site with cut-and-paste messages! Doesn't help your cause, especially if you later go back to re-message one of those poor people that endured that....! TL;DR version - be polite, and try!! " I should also add that I *DO* get meets, this is more of an assist post...! | |||
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"I've had male friends tell me in the past when they stopped actively looking for meets & started interacting more in the forums / chat rooms / uploading pics they did an awful lot better as a result. " see this is also interesting. Although they stopped messaging they became proactive elsewhere | |||
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"This thread has been very interesting. Thanks for your responses AND it stayed on topic. Heres my twopence worth. First lines of messages can be read without opening a message. We can scroll down and see which ones catch our eye. Be proactive use all the site has to offer not just message system. Theres a meet and parties section, always socials going off for that elusive verification. Dont try to hard. Be fun, chatty. If your a decent person without being ott it opens doors. If people are just going to sit back and expect it to come to them it wont happen. It also takes effort for a woman as well. Its a huge site. Not everyone spends there time in hot pictures or is 25. Im an average looking 52 year old woman so i guess im probably way down the line. " Not as far down the line as you'd think! | |||
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"Lots of food for thought with this thread " do you think you will look at doing things differently? | |||
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"Quite simple - the single male to female ratio is ridiculous. 500:1 last time I checked So what? How can other men stop you from meeting? Single female inboxes are constantly over flooded with messagesalong with some couples (who dont block single males) So the odds on them actually reading your message is very slim let alone getting a reply due to the ratios. Even worse when you do get a reply and strike up a conversation. Your messages can get lost since and therefore potentially your conversation gets lost. Sorry, I don't agree. People will respond to an interesting and well written message if they are interested in you. If a message is unimaginative and lacks a sense of social skill then it would be quite rightly ignored. Peoples time is valuable so ones message needs to be better than the "competition". Except, of course, no one is competing with anyone. It's too easy to blame things one has no control over, like other men for example, rather than change things to make the site work for oneself. " one? are you Prince Charles? | |||
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"Quite simple - the single male to female ratio is ridiculous. 500:1 last time I checked So what? How can other men stop you from meeting? Single female inboxes are constantly over flooded with messagesalong with some couples (who dont block single males) So the odds on them actually reading your message is very slim let alone getting a reply due to the ratios. Even worse when you do get a reply and strike up a conversation. Your messages can get lost since and therefore potentially your conversation gets lost. Sorry, I don't agree. People will respond to an interesting and well written message if they are interested in you. If a message is unimaginative and lacks a sense of social skill then it would be quite rightly ignored. Peoples time is valuable so ones message needs to be better than the "competition". Except, of course, no one is competing with anyone. It's too easy to blame things one has no control over, like other men for example, rather than change things to make the site work for oneself. one? are you Prince Charles?" He torks proper dun he? Let's get im! | |||
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"In black and white I think I come across as slightly awkward but in the flesh I'm a lot more emotional and confident. " I'm with you on that one messaging I'm no good, I'm better in person. I do try be funny my opening joke. "The elephant says to the naked man it's cute but can it pick up peanuts" | |||
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"Im not Shor ....... It's ever no one is interested Or Im just to far away. I,m interested, you're too far away, if I lived in your area I would love to meet you XXX" | |||
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"Think its a case of persistence and being in the right place at the right time." Persistence is another word for pest and in that case you could see yourself being blocked quite often too. As mentioned before there is no fail safe answer in getting meets. Just put yourself out there and hope for the best. | |||
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"Quite simple - the single male to female ratio is ridiculous. 500:1 last time I checked So what? How can other men stop you from meeting? Single female inboxes are constantly over flooded with messagesalong with some couples (who dont block single males) So the odds on them actually reading your message is very slim let alone getting a reply due to the ratios. Even worse when you do get a reply and strike up a conversation. Your messages can get lost since and therefore potentially your conversation gets lost. Sorry, I don't agree. People will respond to an interesting and well written message if they are interested in you. If a message is unimaginative and lacks a sense of social skill then it would be quite rightly ignored. Peoples time is valuable so ones message needs to be better than the "competition". Except, of course, no one is competing with anyone. It's too easy to blame things one has no control over, like other men for example, rather than change things to make the site work for oneself. one? are you Prince Charles? He torks proper dun he? Let's get im! " *sigh* . If you scroll carefully through a forum post on the Scotland forum a lot of weeks ago, you'll see that I wrote it on Scottish dialect and I got comments on that too. I thought it would make it easier to read. I can't help the way I talk but I guess I can change the way I type stuff - ere' ya go, mucker, gerrin there | |||
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"It's really not hard to get meets off here if you want them, without lowering your standards or any of that bullshit. I honestly don't know why blokes struggle. Because most blokes have an almost complete inability to hold a reasonable conversation. I've seen with my own eyes some of the messages that get sent. My first message is usually something light and slightly witty and that will do "ok" for a single guy on here. " I've dated a woman from here and I saw her inbox.... I've never seen so many talking penises.... | |||
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"Quite simple - the single male to female ratio is ridiculous. 500:1 last time I checked so why is there a lot of guys on here who are successful then and as i said they dont all look like brad pitt" Exactly to easy putting it down to ratio | |||
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"If your unlucky on this site why do you think that is. Lots of guys do seem to get meets and there not all brad pitt so what is it do you think" It's all the non genuine guys ruining it for the genuine ones | |||
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" It's all the non genuine guys ruining it for the genuine ones " This is too true with the time wasters, no shows and fakes etc.. Just makes it more difficult for the genuine guys. | |||
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"My biggest reason for not getting meets is the fact I'm married, second to that is where I'm based, as it's at least an hour away from any real civilisation! It's a lot better here in the summer though " I feel your pain mate! The times I read "Oh you're so lucky to live where you do! It's beautiful there! But too far from me. Good luck hon! xx" | |||
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"If your unlucky on this site why do you think that is. Lots of guys do seem to get meets and there not all brad pitt so what is it do you think" I'm sure my profile needs some work, I take a crap photo and don't come across particularly well online. I'm really just here to stay in touch with folks I meet in clubs. Club scene works great for me. | |||
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"Geography besides, the definitive points against success in here; 1 Unable to accommodate 2 Unable to meet last minute 3 Over the age of 45 4 Under 6ft tall " With you on the height one. Think that's my biggest failure, if that can be considered a failing. I still get a fair amount of meets but think I would get quite a lot more if a bit taller | |||
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"Have you seen me? Is there any wonder I don't get meets " You look like a nice guy. | |||
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" ........But I know how to communicate, know how to write a decent profile and as mucg as I hate the word, I'm genuine. So I can accommodate, I;m flexxible and potential meets aren;t limited to tiny wondows of opportunity. I think those are significant reasons why I used to do well" ...and there it is, especially the first bit... Communicate. | |||
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" It's all the non genuine guys ruining it for the genuine ones This is too true with the time wasters, no shows and fakes etc.. Just makes it more difficult for the genuine guys." No it doesn't. It makes 'genuine' guys more easily available. | |||
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"I find that most of the messages I send never get read, and most of those that DO get read are then immediately deleted. That only leaves a small number that get read and not deleted, but I never get replies (yes, I am polite: no, I don't send dick pics). The best luck I've ever had from FabSwingers was when a woman in my area took the initiative and contacted me: we met for a coffee and a chat, and she gave me the impression that she'd like to take it further, but nothing more came of it. The main reason seems to be that I am a married man (with kids) trapped in a sexless marriage, my wife lost all interest in sex years ago. We seem to be even further down the pecking order than single guys. From the few replies I've gained from other sites, even women who claim to be polyamorous and into "open relationships" won't go anywhere near us, for reasons that are still unclear to me. Some say they don't want to be responsible for "breaking up a marriage", even though my ability to get sex elsewhere is what's allowing my marriage to continue! But it means that I have to pay for sex (which isn't exactly helping the family finances). In addition to prejudice against married "cheaters", there is a time/distance constraint. While my wife told me to look elsewhere for sex, she also made it quite clear that she didn't want to know what I was up to, so I have to do this in secret. I typically book an afternoon off work when I see an escort, but ideally I want a fuckbuddy I can see after work on a typical weekday, and then not get home too late afterwards. I'm in rural Somerset, about halfway between Bath and Yeovil, and could just about manage either of those, but central Bristol is just too far... and that seems to be where all the action is around here. For the same reason, I generally can't attend social events, which tend to be at weekends or too late in the evening. And, yes, I also have to admit that I am too picky for my own good. I prefer young, slim women: the handful of reasonably local ladies tend to be too old or too large for my preferences. I'd be prepared to compromise somewhat (the lady I had coffee with was well into middle-age, but slim and fit), but I still have Adultwork's escorts to fall back on: while my budget is sadly limited, at least I can occasionally afford a choice of escorts who meet any requirements I have. Groucho Marx once said that he'd never consider joining any club that would accept him as a member: I have a similar curse, the only women I like are out of my league. I did briefly succeed in finding a girlfriend (a slim, attractive 22-year old black girl on the southern edge of Bristol), but then she met someone probably closer to her own age, and lost interest in me. I've come to see this as rather like playing the lottery, except that it's free: I no longer have any realistic expectation of meeting anyone, but I might as well try, you just never know. Constant rejection does get draining after awhile, but then I just take a break from this and maybe see an extra escort instead. And that would be my advice to anyone else in this situation: don't become too hopeful of success, but accept that you can "cheat" by paying for sex if failure is getting you down. It IS essentially like playing the lottery, as the main benefit would be financial: no longer having to pay out money that I can't really afford. If I ever do succeed, I hope she'd want to carry on seeing me regularly! But there are some things that I just don't get to do. I'd like to get into bondage (giving or receiving), but few escorts are equipped to deliver that in a hotel room, and it can be time-consuming: I find it hard to relax and enjoy it when I know it's costing me around £2 per minute! And even fewer escorts will trust a client enough to allow herself to be tied up (I have done this with a regular who trusts me, but the only props we had were a hotel bed and a couple of ropes, it was a bit awkward). I quite like the idea of being naked, tied up, and "sexually abused" at a hen party or similar all-female gathering, but hiring a dozen escorts for that would blow my budget for a year! Women have a huge advantage there: if you're female and your fantasy involves men, finding keen volunteers is generally not difficult, and you won't have to pay them... " What the absolute fuck ??!!! | |||
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"If your unlucky on this site why do you think that is. Lots of guys do seem to get meets and there not all brad pitt so what is it do you think" I'd say my reasons for lack of success are the fact my job prevents me from being able to plan anything as I never know where I will be from one day to the next and short-notice/same-day meets seem to be rather unpopular,I can only meet in the evening due to work,I don't meet on Friday nights or weekends as it's the only time I see my children and I'm not cutting short my time with them for anybody,and I'm a munter | |||
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"I find that most of the messages I send never get read, and most of those that DO get read are then immediately deleted. That only leaves a small number that get read and not deleted, but I never get replies (yes, I am polite: no, I don't send dick pics). The best luck I've ever had from FabSwingers was when a woman in my area took the initiative and contacted me: we met for a coffee and a chat, and she gave me the impression that she'd like to take it further, but nothing more came of it. The main reason seems to be that I am a married man (with kids) trapped in a sexless marriage, my wife lost all interest in sex years ago. We seem to be even further down the pecking order than single guys. From the few replies I've gained from other sites, even women who claim to be polyamorous and into "open relationships" won't go anywhere near us, for reasons that are still unclear to me. Some say they don't want to be responsible for "breaking up a marriage", even though my ability to get sex elsewhere is what's allowing my marriage to continue! But it means that I have to pay for sex (which isn't exactly helping the family finances). In addition to prejudice against married "cheaters", there is a time/distance constraint. While my wife told me to look elsewhere for sex, she also made it quite clear that she didn't want to know what I was up to, so I have to do this in secret. I typically book an afternoon off work when I see an escort, but ideally I want a fuckbuddy I can see after work on a typical weekday, and then not get home too late afterwards. I'm in rural Somerset, about halfway between Bath and Yeovil, and could just about manage either of those, but central Bristol is just too far... and that seems to be where all the action is around here. For the same reason, I generally can't attend social events, which tend to be at weekends or too late in the evening. And, yes, I also have to admit that I am too picky for my own good. I prefer young, slim women: the handful of reasonably local ladies tend to be too old or too large for my preferences. I'd be prepared to compromise somewhat (the lady I had coffee with was well into middle-age, but slim and fit), but I still have Adultwork's escorts to fall back on: while my budget is sadly limited, at least I can occasionally afford a choice of escorts who meet any requirements I have. Groucho Marx once said that he'd never consider joining any club that would accept him as a member: I have a similar curse, the only women I like are out of my league. I did briefly succeed in finding a girlfriend (a slim, attractive 22-year old black girl on the southern edge of Bristol), but then she met someone probably closer to her own age, and lost interest in me. I've come to see this as rather like playing the lottery, except that it's free: I no longer have any realistic expectation of meeting anyone, but I might as well try, you just never know. Constant rejection does get draining after awhile, but then I just take a break from this and maybe see an extra escort instead. And that would be my advice to anyone else in this situation: don't become too hopeful of success, but accept that you can "cheat" by paying for sex if failure is getting you down. It IS essentially like playing the lottery, as the main benefit would be financial: no longer having to pay out money that I can't really afford. If I ever do succeed, I hope she'd want to carry on seeing me regularly! But there are some things that I just don't get to do. I'd like to get into bondage (giving or receiving), but few escorts are equipped to deliver that in a hotel room, and it can be time-consuming: I find it hard to relax and enjoy it when I know it's costing me around £2 per minute! And even fewer escorts will trust a client enough to allow herself to be tied up (I have done this with a regular who trusts me, but the only props we had were a hotel bed and a couple of ropes, it was a bit awkward). I quite like the idea of being naked, tied up, and "sexually abused" at a hen party or similar all-female gathering, but hiring a dozen escorts for that would blow my budget for a year! Women have a huge advantage there: if you're female and your fantasy involves men, finding keen volunteers is generally not difficult, and you won't have to pay them... What the absolute fuck ??!!! " Urmmm...what??!! | |||
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"I find that most of the messages I send never get read, and most of those that DO get read are then immediately deleted. That only leaves a small number that get read and not deleted, but I never get replies (yes, I am polite: no, I don't send dick pics). The best luck I've ever had from FabSwingers was when a woman in my area took the initiative and contacted me: we met for a coffee and a chat, and she gave me the impression that she'd like to take it further, but nothing more came of it. The main reason seems to be that I am a married man (with kids) trapped in a sexless marriage, my wife lost all interest in sex years ago. We seem to be even further down the pecking order than single guys. From the few replies I've gained from other sites, even women who claim to be polyamorous and into "open relationships" won't go anywhere near us, for reasons that are still unclear to me. Some say they don't want to be responsible for "breaking up a marriage", even though my ability to get sex elsewhere is what's allowing my marriage to continue! But it means that I have to pay for sex (which isn't exactly helping the family finances). In addition to prejudice against married "cheaters", there is a time/distance constraint. While my wife told me to look elsewhere for sex, she also made it quite clear that she didn't want to know what I was up to, so I have to do this in secret. I typically book an afternoon off work when I see an escort, but ideally I want a fuckbuddy I can see after work on a typical weekday, and then not get home too late afterwards. I'm in rural Somerset, about halfway between Bath and Yeovil, and could just about manage either of those, but central Bristol is just too far... and that seems to be where all the action is around here. For the same reason, I generally can't attend social events, which tend to be at weekends or too late in the evening. And, yes, I also have to admit that I am too picky for my own good. I prefer young, slim women: the handful of reasonably local ladies tend to be too old or too large for my preferences. I'd be prepared to compromise somewhat (the lady I had coffee with was well into middle-age, but slim and fit), but I still have Adultwork's escorts to fall back on: while my budget is sadly limited, at least I can occasionally afford a choice of escorts who meet any requirements I have. Groucho Marx once said that he'd never consider joining any club that would accept him as a member: I have a similar curse, the only women I like are out of my league. I did briefly succeed in finding a girlfriend (a slim, attractive 22-year old black girl on the southern edge of Bristol), but then she met someone probably closer to her own age, and lost interest in me. I've come to see this as rather like playing the lottery, except that it's free: I no longer have any realistic expectation of meeting anyone, but I might as well try, you just never know. Constant rejection does get draining after awhile, but then I just take a break from this and maybe see an extra escort instead. And that would be my advice to anyone else in this situation: don't become too hopeful of success, but accept that you can "cheat" by paying for sex if failure is getting you down. It IS essentially like playing the lottery, as the main benefit would be financial: no longer having to pay out money that I can't really afford. If I ever do succeed, I hope she'd want to carry on seeing me regularly! But there are some things that I just don't get to do. I'd like to get into bondage (giving or receiving), but few escorts are equipped to deliver that in a hotel room, and it can be time-consuming: I find it hard to relax and enjoy it when I know it's costing me around £2 per minute! And even fewer escorts will trust a client enough to allow herself to be tied up (I have done this with a regular who trusts me, but the only props we had were a hotel bed and a couple of ropes, it was a bit awkward). I quite like the idea of being naked, tied up, and "sexually abused" at a hen party or similar all-female gathering, but hiring a dozen escorts for that would blow my budget for a year! Women have a huge advantage there: if you're female and your fantasy involves men, finding keen volunteers is generally not difficult, and you won't have to pay them... " Very honest, but also why marrieds are undesirable on here, time constraints, can only meet when your able to sneak away, clock watching etc and I could go on, so your right rather than complaining about the women on fab, do what suits your time and pocket and if that means paying for it then do so Rather than trying to make the females of fab act or feel like free prostitutes, do the best you can with both profiles and message but also be honest. A free site does not implicate easy sex and the more men that understand this the better and may even cut down on the follow up abusive messages when women do say a 'thanks but no thanks' This is why I now just ignore people I am not interested in as I have been accused of being up my own arse......and this is from men I have never even spoke to never mind rejected | |||
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"Quite simple - the single male to female ratio is ridiculous. 500:1 last time I checked So what? How can other men stop you from meeting? Single female inboxes are constantly over flooded with messagesalong with some couples (who dont block single males) So the odds on them actually reading your message is very slim let alone getting a reply due to the ratios. Even worse when you do get a reply and strike up a conversation. Your messages can get lost since and therefore potentially your conversation gets lost. " See my comment above | |||
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"Funny how the thread changed from 'why don't you get meets' to guys boasting about how many meets they get. Why don't you get meets? I've read that some people don't read messages past the little preview that comes up. You could be missing a gem there, and do you also delete it if they've got a pic attached? Geography plays a part - some places are quieter than others. Some places are weirder - London couples seems to have very similar tastes which gets boring when you look through them. It's not difficult for women to meet on here, so we can be (and are) picky. Some are unnecessarily mean to guys and others play the 'I've still got it', taking the compliments because they're feeling down or whatever. Guys, come across as nice, read the profile, send more than a few words and a picture also helps. When it comes to geography, you'll just have to say you'll travel. Good luck!" Geography bites it's true; I do feel that I live in a quiet area, and although I am prepared to travel, few people have the patience to wait for me to arrive. Thanks for your positive comments though | |||
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"I find that most of the messages I send never get read, and most of those that DO get read are then immediately deleted. That only leaves a small number that get read and not deleted, but I never get replies (yes, I am polite: no, I don't send dick pics). The best luck I've ever had from FabSwingers was when a woman in my area took the initiative and contacted me: we met for a coffee and a chat, and she gave me the impression that she'd like to take it further, but nothing more came of it. The main reason seems to be that I am a married man (with kids) trapped in a sexless marriage, my wife lost all interest in sex years ago. We seem to be even further down the pecking order than single guys. From the few replies I've gained from other sites, even women who claim to be polyamorous and into "open relationships" won't go anywhere near us, for reasons that are still unclear to me. Some say they don't want to be responsible for "breaking up a marriage", even though my ability to get sex elsewhere is what's allowing my marriage to continue! But it means that I have to pay for sex (which isn't exactly helping the family finances). In addition to prejudice against married "cheaters", there is a time/distance constraint. While my wife told me to look elsewhere for sex, she also made it quite clear that she didn't want to know what I was up to, so I have to do this in secret. I typically book an afternoon off work when I see an escort, but ideally I want a fuckbuddy I can see after work on a typical weekday, and then not get home too late afterwards. I'm in rural Somerset, about halfway between Bath and Yeovil, and could just about manage either of those, but central Bristol is just too far... and that seems to be where all the action is around here. For the same reason, I generally can't attend social events, which tend to be at weekends or too late in the evening. And, yes, I also have to admit that I am too picky for my own good. I prefer young, slim women: the handful of reasonably local ladies tend to be too old or too large for my preferences. I'd be prepared to compromise somewhat (the lady I had coffee with was well into middle-age, but slim and fit), but I still have Adultwork's escorts to fall back on: while my budget is sadly limited, at least I can occasionally afford a choice of escorts who meet any requirements I have. Groucho Marx once said that he'd never consider joining any club that would accept him as a member: I have a similar curse, the only women I like are out of my league. I did briefly succeed in finding a girlfriend (a slim, attractive 22-year old black girl on the southern edge of Bristol), but then she met someone probably closer to her own age, and lost interest in me. I've come to see this as rather like playing the lottery, except that it's free: I no longer have any realistic expectation of meeting anyone, but I might as well try, you just never know. Constant rejection does get draining after awhile, but then I just take a break from this and maybe see an extra escort instead. And that would be my advice to anyone else in this situation: don't become too hopeful of success, but accept that you can "cheat" by paying for sex if failure is getting you down. It IS essentially like playing the lottery, as the main benefit would be financial: no longer having to pay out money that I can't really afford. If I ever do succeed, I hope she'd want to carry on seeing me regularly! But there are some things that I just don't get to do. I'd like to get into bondage (giving or receiving), but few escorts are equipped to deliver that in a hotel room, and it can be time-consuming: I find it hard to relax and enjoy it when I know it's costing me around £2 per minute! And even fewer escorts will trust a client enough to allow herself to be tied up (I have done this with a regular who trusts me, but the only props we had were a hotel bed and a couple of ropes, it was a bit awkward). I quite like the idea of being naked, tied up, and "sexually abused" at a hen party or similar all-female gathering, but hiring a dozen escorts for that would blow my budget for a year! Women have a huge advantage there: if you're female and your fantasy involves men, finding keen volunteers is generally not difficult, and you won't have to pay them... Very honest, but also why marrieds are undesirable on here, time constraints, can only meet when your able to sneak away, clock watching etc and I could go on, so your right rather than complaining about the women on fab, do what suits your time and pocket and if that means paying for it then do so Rather than trying to make the females of fab act or feel like free prostitutes, do the best you can with both profiles and message but also be honest. A free site does not implicate easy sex and the more men that understand this the better and may even cut down on the follow up abusive messages when women do say a 'thanks but no thanks' This is why I now just ignore people I am not interested in as I have been accused of being up my own arse......and this is from men I have never even spoke to never mind rejected " Well you're in luck, as there's a ship full of guys with time to kill in your harbour right now! Have a wander down and chance your arm lol | |||
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"I find that most of the messages I send never get read, and most of those that DO get read are then immediately deleted. That only leaves a small number that get read and not deleted, but I never get replies (yes, I am polite: no, I don't send dick pics). The best luck I've ever had from FabSwingers was when a woman in my area took the initiative and contacted me: we met for a coffee and a chat, and she gave me the impression that she'd like to take it further, but nothing more came of it. The main reason seems to be that I am a married man (with kids) trapped in a sexless marriage, my wife lost all interest in sex years ago. We seem to be even further down the pecking order than single guys. From the few replies I've gained from other sites, even women who claim to be polyamorous and into "open relationships" won't go anywhere near us, for reasons that are still unclear to me. Some say they don't want to be responsible for "breaking up a marriage", even though my ability to get sex elsewhere is what's allowing my marriage to continue! But it means that I have to pay for sex (which isn't exactly helping the family finances). In addition to prejudice against married "cheaters", there is a time/distance constraint. While my wife told me to look elsewhere for sex, she also made it quite clear that she didn't want to know what I was up to, so I have to do this in secret. I typically book an afternoon off work when I see an escort, but ideally I want a fuckbuddy I can see after work on a typical weekday, and then not get home too late afterwards. I'm in rural Somerset, about halfway between Bath and Yeovil, and could just about manage either of those, but central Bristol is just too far... and that seems to be where all the action is around here. For the same reason, I generally can't attend social events, which tend to be at weekends or too late in the evening. And, yes, I also have to admit that I am too picky for my own good. I prefer young, slim women: the handful of reasonably local ladies tend to be too old or too large for my preferences. I'd be prepared to compromise somewhat (the lady I had coffee with was well into middle-age, but slim and fit), but I still have Adultwork's escorts to fall back on: while my budget is sadly limited, at least I can occasionally afford a choice of escorts who meet any requirements I have. Groucho Marx once said that he'd never consider joining any club that would accept him as a member: I have a similar curse, the only women I like are out of my league. I did briefly succeed in finding a girlfriend (a slim, attractive 22-year old black girl on the southern edge of Bristol), but then she met someone probably closer to her own age, and lost interest in me. I've come to see this as rather like playing the lottery, except that it's free: I no longer have any realistic expectation of meeting anyone, but I might as well try, you just never know. Constant rejection does get draining after awhile, but then I just take a break from this and maybe see an extra escort instead. And that would be my advice to anyone else in this situation: don't become too hopeful of success, but accept that you can "cheat" by paying for sex if failure is getting you down. It IS essentially like playing the lottery, as the main benefit would be financial: no longer having to pay out money that I can't really afford. If I ever do succeed, I hope she'd want to carry on seeing me regularly! But there are some things that I just don't get to do. I'd like to get into bondage (giving or receiving), but few escorts are equipped to deliver that in a hotel room, and it can be time-consuming: I find it hard to relax and enjoy it when I know it's costing me around £2 per minute! And even fewer escorts will trust a client enough to allow herself to be tied up (I have done this with a regular who trusts me, but the only props we had were a hotel bed and a couple of ropes, it was a bit awkward). I quite like the idea of being naked, tied up, and "sexually abused" at a hen party or similar all-female gathering, but hiring a dozen escorts for that would blow my budget for a year! Women have a huge advantage there: if you're female and your fantasy involves men, finding keen volunteers is generally not difficult, and you won't have to pay them... Very honest, but also why marrieds are undesirable on here, time constraints, can only meet when your able to sneak away, clock watching etc and I could go on, so your right rather than complaining about the women on fab, do what suits your time and pocket and if that means paying for it then do so Rather than trying to make the females of fab act or feel like free prostitutes, do the best you can with both profiles and message but also be honest. A free site does not implicate easy sex and the more men that understand this the better and may even cut down on the follow up abusive messages when women do say a 'thanks but no thanks' This is why I now just ignore people I am not interested in as I have been accused of being up my own arse......and this is from men I have never even spoke to never mind rejected Well you're in luck, as there's a ship full of guys with time to kill in your harbour right now! Have a wander down and chance your arm lol " I'll have to get my price list in order before I head down there! Will have to increase the average price as we have had snow today, so they will have to pay extra for my bravery for bracing the cold, as this is not my home town | |||
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"Probably coz there's a ratio of around 20 guys to 1 woman!!!! You have the power ladies lol " And why men should up their game! #just saying | |||
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"I find that most of the messages I send never get read, and most of those that DO get read are then immediately deleted. That only leaves a small number that get read and not deleted, but I never get replies (yes, I am polite: no, I don't send dick pics). The best luck I've ever had from FabSwingers was when a woman in my area took the initiative and contacted me: we met for a coffee and a chat, and she gave me the impression that she'd like to take it further, but nothing more came of it. The main reason seems to be that I am a married man (with kids) trapped in a sexless marriage, my wife lost all interest in sex years ago. We seem to be even further down the pecking order than single guys. From the few replies I've gained from other sites, even women who claim to be polyamorous and into "open relationships" won't go anywhere near us, for reasons that are still unclear to me. Some say they don't want to be responsible for "breaking up a marriage", even though my ability to get sex elsewhere is what's allowing my marriage to continue! But it means that I have to pay for sex (which isn't exactly helping the family finances). In addition to prejudice against married "cheaters", there is a time/distance constraint. While my wife told me to look elsewhere for sex, she also made it quite clear that she didn't want to know what I was up to, so I have to do this in secret. I typically book an afternoon off work when I see an escort, but ideally I want a fuckbuddy I can see after work on a typical weekday, and then not get home too late afterwards. I'm in rural Somerset, about halfway between Bath and Yeovil, and could just about manage either of those, but central Bristol is just too far... and that seems to be where all the action is around here. For the same reason, I generally can't attend social events, which tend to be at weekends or too late in the evening. And, yes, I also have to admit that I am too picky for my own good. I prefer young, slim women: the handful of reasonably local ladies tend to be too old or too large for my preferences. I'd be prepared to compromise somewhat (the lady I had coffee with was well into middle-age, but slim and fit), but I still have Adultwork's escorts to fall back on: while my budget is sadly limited, at least I can occasionally afford a choice of escorts who meet any requirements I have. Groucho Marx once said that he'd never consider joining any club that would accept him as a member: I have a similar curse, the only women I like are out of my league. I did briefly succeed in finding a girlfriend (a slim, attractive 22-year old black girl on the southern edge of Bristol), but then she met someone probably closer to her own age, and lost interest in me. I've come to see this as rather like playing the lottery, except that it's free: I no longer have any realistic expectation of meeting anyone, but I might as well try, you just never know. Constant rejection does get draining after awhile, but then I just take a break from this and maybe see an extra escort instead. And that would be my advice to anyone else in this situation: don't become too hopeful of success, but accept that you can "cheat" by paying for sex if failure is getting you down. It IS essentially like playing the lottery, as the main benefit would be financial: no longer having to pay out money that I can't really afford. If I ever do succeed, I hope she'd want to carry on seeing me regularly! But there are some things that I just don't get to do. I'd like to get into bondage (giving or receiving), but few escorts are equipped to deliver that in a hotel room, and it can be time-consuming: I find it hard to relax and enjoy it when I know it's costing me around £2 per minute! And even fewer escorts will trust a client enough to allow herself to be tied up (I have done this with a regular who trusts me, but the only props we had were a hotel bed and a couple of ropes, it was a bit awkward). I quite like the idea of being naked, tied up, and "sexually abused" at a hen party or similar all-female gathering, but hiring a dozen escorts for that would blow my budget for a year! Women have a huge advantage there: if you're female and your fantasy involves men, finding keen volunteers is generally not difficult, and you won't have to pay them... Very honest, but also why marrieds are undesirable on here, time constraints, can only meet when your able to sneak away, clock watching etc and I could go on, so your right rather than complaining about the women on fab, do what suits your time and pocket and if that means paying for it then do so Rather than trying to make the females of fab act or feel like free prostitutes, do the best you can with both profiles and message but also be honest. A free site does not implicate easy sex and the more men that understand this the better and may even cut down on the follow up abusive messages when women do say a 'thanks but no thanks' This is why I now just ignore people I am not interested in as I have been accused of being up my own arse......and this is from men I have never even spoke to never mind rejected Well you're in luck, as there's a ship full of guys with time to kill in your harbour right now! Have a wander down and chance your arm lol I'll have to get my price list in order before I head down there! Will have to increase the average price as we have had snow today, so they will have to pay extra for my bravery for bracing the cold, as this is not my home town " They haven't been paid for months lol, I wouldn't raise your prices too much | |||
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"This will sound unintentionally arrogant but the only reason I don;t get meets id because I don't look for them. I've never struggled on this or other similar sites and while I;m okay looking I'm also tall, skinny and with no fashion sense whatsoever so very much an acquired taste. But I know how to communicate, know how to write a decent profile and as much as I hate the word, I'm genuine. So I can accommodate, I;m flexible and potential meets aren't;t limited to tiny windows of opportunity. I think those are significant reasons why I used to do well" I love your skirt and paddle ( )Dont think what is underneath is that bad either if my memory serves me right. | |||
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"Probably coz there's a ratio of around 20 guys to 1 woman!!!! You have the power ladies lol And why men should up their game! #just saying " I think the best tip was the opening line of your message, which can be viewed without opening the mail, those first four or five words make all the difference apparently...... | |||
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"Probably coz there's a ratio of around 20 guys to 1 woman!!!! You have the power ladies lol And why men should up their game! #just saying I think the best tip was the opening line of your message, which can be viewed without opening the mail, those first four or five words make all the difference apparently...... " We read a profile before reading a message, we think a lot of people do that. | |||
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"Probably coz there's a ratio of around 20 guys to 1 woman!!!! You have the power ladies lol And why men should up their game! #just saying I think the best tip was the opening line of your message, which can be viewed without opening the mail, those first four or five words make all the difference apparently...... We read a profile before reading a message, we think a lot of people do that. " Not everyone does; the amount of times I've struck up a great dialogue with someone, over a period of days, to receive the "You're married? I don't meet marrieds!" | |||
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