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"Whilst its not nice to see people lose thier jobs it would be particularly good to bring this newspaper down and prove to the press that they are not invincible, I believe that various companies are pulling out thier advertising left right and centre, personally I haven't bought a paper in years. " We must have lost interest at the same time! (hello newbie btw)  | |||
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"If you usually buy it on a Sunday, will you be buying it this week? " I don't but if i did i wouldn't. Even thinking of cancelling sky with Murdock's connection to it. | |||
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"I'm quite shallow actually. When I go to the newsagents and see the rack of newspapers, my eyes scan for the female celebs I'd like to bone and the word 'Exposed' underneath. I'll buy any paper for that reason alone. " | |||
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"If you usually buy it on a Sunday, will you be buying it this week? I don't but if i did i wouldn't. Even thinking of cancelling sky with Murdock's connection to it. " Cancelled our Sky on Monday  | |||
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"The News of the World will never be brought done by loss of advertising or even a drop in sales. If Murdoch decides to he could subsidise it without ads indefinitely such is News Int's wealth just to prove a point. I suspect he might distance himself though as stock in News Int has dropped a bit in the last 24 hours. He's ruthless enough to kill the paper himself as good PR." He could he is a thoughtless uncaring bastard of the first degree. If people stop paying for sky then his arse will twitch far more. | |||
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"ooooh... new twist... looks like murdoch is closing the news of the world.... last edition will be this sunday, and all the profits will go to charity... "doesn't go far enough irregardless of any closure, people need to be brought to account for what has gone on and some of those people will be straight thru his corporation not just at NOTW. | |||
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"ooooh... new twist... looks like murdoch is closing the news of the world.... last edition will be this sunday, and all the profits will go to charity...
doesn't go far enough
irregardless of any closure, people need to be brought to account for what has gone on
and some of those people will be straight thru his corporation not just at NOTW."I think Fabio was winding you up mate! | |||
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"this Sunday is the last one... " I've just jumped to the end of the thread, the end of the world, is nigh. Fuck me. | |||
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" I think Fabio was winding you up mate! "I wish i was mate... turn on ya tv.... well we all know what the sacifical lamb is now to save news corp.... they are going to also run it ad free... I assume the sun will go 7 days a week to replace it | |||
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"I just wonder how many other editors of sunday rags are shitting themselves right now? " Lots I am guessing | |||
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"I just wonder how many other editors of sunday rags are shitting themselves right now? Lots I am guessing "Wonder what they're wiping with? Their own or others'? | |||
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" I think Fabio was winding you up mate!
I wish i was mate... turn on ya tv....
well we all know what the sacifical lamb is now to save news corp....
they are going to also run it ad free... I assume the sun will go 7 days a week to replace it"Shit!!! 
I was half joking when I said Murdoch would kill it for PR. | |||
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"Tweeters in the media are saying the Sun's going 7 days a week. Same shit, different masthead." Exactly so the whole thing is pointless | |||
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"Bugger. Im not going to get the tenner they promised for my 'kiss and tell'..." psst - u can tell me ! besides if you don't, i'll just bug ur phone | |||
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"if people cant change the settings on there phones its there own fault ! " it's generally difficult if ur dead in a field somewhere | |||
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"if people cant change the settings on there phones its there own fault ! it's generally difficult if ur dead in a field somewhere " I agree,would any of us think oooo must change the settings on my phone incase I get kidnapped,murdered or shot in the line of duty and the papers want to hack my phone? | |||
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"I have just heard some whispers from sources very close to News Int that as well as the PR by closing the paper he get's out of a shit load of legal fees. Don't have any more details but typical he will make or save money from doing it!" Wouldn't News International have to pay out wether they stopped publishing or not? | |||
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" It may well speed up the end of all newspapers as we know them. Their demise is inevitable anyway. Interesting video clip of Rebekah Brooks (Wade) the other day, clearly stating to the Parliamentary Committe that they HAD paid the Police. Clear as day. " well she was married to one of the Mitchell brothers... | |||
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"if people cant change the settings on there phones its there own fault ! i had my phone 2 days and i had sorted my settings " I have had mine 6 weeks and still don't know how to work the pigging thing ! I keep ringing random people. | |||
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"I have just heard some whispers from sources very close to News Int that as well as the PR by closing the paper he get's out of a shit load of legal fees. Don't have any more details but typical he will make or save money from doing it! Wouldn't News International have to pay out wether they stopped publishing or not?" I'm not entirely sure the legal fees that were mentioned are pertaining to the phone hacking stuff. I think it might be various out of court settlements they are involved with. But any legal cases towards The News of the World would have to be re-filed and made toward News Int I would imagine, for some they might not want the expense, it can cost hundreds of thousands. | |||
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"So we can safely assume Mystic Meg didn't see that one coming" | |||
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"if people cant change the settings on there phones its there own fault ! i had my phone 2 days and i had sorted my settings I have had mine 6 weeks and still don't know how to work the pigging thing ! I keep ringing random people." i know, its the heavy breathing we dont understand though  | |||
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"if people cant change the settings on there phones its there own fault ! i had my phone 2 days and i had sorted my settings I have had mine 6 weeks and still don't know how to work the pigging thing ! I keep ringing random people." tsssk.......don't ring me....don't write...not even a bloody carrier pigeon | |||
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"it is interesting to see how many people on twitter, politicans, and people on the TV are really sceptical of this... and are calling it a "cynical rebranding exercise"... nice to see the pressure isn't letting up on them....." if murdochs club cant run a newspaper properly that has a history of over 168 years ,he should not gain control of Sky Its not rocket science is it ,tell the truth ,obey the law re purality,elections ,state security etc and do not show bias. That really should apply to any newspaper and be the mainstay of the requirements of the governing body. | |||
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"So there's a gap in the Sunday News Tabloids then?? Hmmm??? Sunday Swinging Times sounds like a good name for a new paper. "I'll do the obit pages | |||
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"Can I be the tester of cocks?" no better tester... | |||
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"it is interesting to see how many people on twitter, politicans, and people on the TV are really sceptical of this... and are calling it a "cynical rebranding exercise"... nice to see the pressure isn't letting up on them....." We have seen thee same feeds. It looks like the general public are really biting out at this and i am now wondering what their next move to wriggle out of it will be. I would have had more respect if he had put his hands up and admitted it. | |||
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"it is interesting to see how many people on twitter, politicans, and people on the TV are really sceptical of this... and are calling it a "cynical rebranding exercise"... nice to see the pressure isn't letting up on them....." It would be an insult to most of the people in this country if they really believed that we would all fall for such a load of old pr bollocks | |||
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"I will do the problem page.. " any one up for some sport? | |||
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"I will do the problem page.. any one up for some sport?" god help em if I was in a grump | |||
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"I will do the problem page.. any one up for some sport? god help em if I was in a grump" and that's different to any other day how?? | |||
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"news of the world has just closed ......lastest from sky news ....." They are saying last edition Sunday. They you will get at the end of the holidays a similar paper opening so it can "create jobs". Well i hope not but you have to remember these people are driven by money alone. | |||
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"it is interesting to see how many people on twitter, politicans, and people on the TV are really sceptical of this... and are calling it a "cynical rebranding exercise"... nice to see the pressure isn't letting up on them..... We have seen thee same feeds. It looks like the general public are really biting out at this and i am now wondering what their next move to wriggle out of it will be. I would have had more respect if he had put his hands up and admitted it. " if you read his statement he has put his hands up to it and thrown the editor and staff to the lions claiming we didnt know,admitting that to pay the out of court settlements was a mistake and they have outed the information cus they are the good guys, What i dont understand is The deputy prime ministers phone is hacked during a period of conflict and the shit is only now hitting the fan . That Murdoch has too much undemocratic power and needs stopping. | |||
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"it is interesting to see how many people on twitter, politicans, and people on the TV are really sceptical of this... and are calling it a "cynical rebranding exercise"... nice to see the pressure isn't letting up on them..... We have seen thee same feeds. It looks like the general public are really biting out at this and i am now wondering what their next move to wriggle out of it will be. I would have had more respect if he had put his hands up and admitted it. if you read his statement he has put his hands up to it and thrown the editor and staff to the lions claiming we didnt know,admitting that to pay the out of court settlements was a mistake and they have outed the information cus they are the good guys, What i dont understand is The deputy prime ministers phone is hacked during a period of conflict and the shit is only now hitting the fan . That Murdoch has too much undemocratic power and needs stopping. " But does that not also beg serious questions of the "democratic powers". That a number of investigations have been carried out and, in effect none of them have found themselves to be doing anything wrong? Aside from the disgraceful content of the phone hacking, which is the more worrying aspect for society, the party paying the Police or the Police accepting it? If we're to clear out corruption and let's say immorality, let's start at the top and be thorough. Don't forget, the most important part of any election upto date has been the press. They gotta be bought(*) onside somehow. (*) not a typo. | |||
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"I hope the last one is FULL of the stuff they never dared to print before... The Real Truth about..... Could be few hundred pages thick!!" Hey up, yeah. And pictures of Sunday gangbangs too? | |||
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"could this help Tommy Sheridan perjury case now after that scandal from the same paper?? " Not really as it was HE who was found guilty of lying on oath. | |||
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"could this help Tommy Sheridan perjury case now after that scandal from the same paper?? " well there is a suggestion that the NOTW may well have perjured themselves in the purjury case... oh the irony.... I think they know more is coming.... | |||
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"could this help Tommy Sheridan perjury case now after that scandal from the same paper?? Not really as it was HE who was found guilty of lying on oath." is a suggestion he was found guilty because the NOTW perjured themselves and lied during the trial. was an 8-6 majority verdict that did for him so the outcome could have been very different | |||
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"it is interesting to see how many people on twitter, politicans, and people on the TV are really sceptical of this... and are calling it a "cynical rebranding exercise"... nice to see the pressure isn't letting up on them..... We have seen thee same feeds. It looks like the general public are really biting out at this and i am now wondering what their next move to wriggle out of it will be. I would have had more respect if he had put his hands up and admitted it. if you read his statement he has put his hands up to it and thrown the editor and staff to the lions claiming we didnt know,admitting that to pay the out of court settlements was a mistake and they have outed the information cus they are the good guys, What i dont understand is The deputy prime ministers phone is hacked during a period of conflict and the shit is only now hitting the fan . That Murdoch has too much undemocratic power and needs stopping. But does that not also beg serious questions of the "democratic powers". That a number of investigations have been carried out and, in effect none of them have found themselves to be doing anything wrong? Aside from the disgraceful content of the phone hacking, which is the more worrying aspect for society, the party paying the Police or the Police accepting it? If we're to clear out corruption and let's say immorality, let's start at the top and be thorough. Don't forget, the most important part of any election upto date has been the press. They gotta be bought(*) onside somehow. (*) not a typo. " i agree mushy ,but self regulation does not work as the IBC are like a chocolate fire guard,"dare i say" it needs some sort of semi-judicial-quango,made up of people from all sections of society from the modest to the highest,with powers to ensure we have a fair press for all,its the same with the Solicitors and doctors,they all close shop when under attack instead of serving the needs of the public. | |||
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"could this help Tommy Sheridan perjury case now after that scandal from the same paper?? Not really as it was HE who was found guilty of lying on oath." it seams that some of the witness also lie | |||
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" is a suggestion he was found guilty because the NOTW perjured themselves and lied during the trial. was an 8-6 majority verdict that did for him so the outcome could have been very different "I bow to your more detailed knowledge. Maybe overturned as an unsafe conviction? A re-trial at best? | |||
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"They will just bring out another paper with another name which is worse the people who write the rubbish or the people who buy it" Would you care to quantify that statement. I buy the NOTW as it has the best sports section in any paper I've read (I'm a football fan and it's football reporting is second to none). Does that make me worse than the people who wrote the stories based on the info gained from the hacked phone of a dead teenager? | |||
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"It seems to me that NOTW is Julius Ceasar to the rest of the press' Brutus. The advertisers are the senators who moved in for the kill one sunny day on the way to the forum, all for the self-serving interest of protecting their own piles of stock, shares, profit streams and public image. Are we really trying to fool ourselves that any executive of a large multinational has got where he/she is by being an absolutely chuffingly nice person. They all know the corporate game and whilst it stood in their interest to advertise with the NOTW, even when celebrity phones were being hacked, it suddenly all became a bit stomach churning when the phones of murdered teenagers were hacked, or dead servicemen for that matter, and, like rats running down the anchor rope of a burning ship they fled for their own scrawny necks quietly whispering to the rat running beside them, "phew, glad it was them and not us!" I'm not saying that Murdoch (James) doesn't have some tough questions to answer, nor that the Editor of the NOTW should also face a serious grilling, or that the way that paper was run didn't need a complete overhaul, but it is such a shame that 168 years of history has been consigned to the dustbin and who knows how many innocent workers thrown onto the dole for something that someone else much higher up the food chain has done. Sure they may get offered jobs with a.n.other paper that springs up over the ashes of NOTW but you can bet your bottom dollar that the Murdoch regime will chainge their terms and conditions and give them a second shafting just as their arses are recovering from the first. And all this in the very week that News International were bidding for the rest of BSkyB. Call me Mr Cynical but it's fookin great timing for those who were resisting News Int. Yes, it was morally wrong to tap into Milly Dowler's phone, and yes it was wrong to do the same to the phones of dead servicemen, but let's take a closer look at all the tabloids and see which of them are totally guilt free in the way they collect their stories." I agree with your points on corporate life and its dog eat dog approach to anything that gets in the way, and also the fact that this an opportunity....no a long overdue opportunity to clean up the press in this country, But its going to have to be a strong government to shut the door of number 10 on the great murdoch (Brown tryed). I think TNTWorld were the pointed tip of the gutter press and long overdue for a right seeing to and i for one am not sad to see it go ,the question is it was linked to bribery of corrupt police officers and for Andy Coulson to maintain his "I know nothing" stance any longer has to be a non starter now , Isnt the PM a personal friend of the current editor and also appointed Coulson as The press advisor\enforcer..i think the spin machine must be in overdrive tonight at number 10 ,lol | |||
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"the people that buy in to the celebrety trash just play right into the hands of the writers who write the trash" How many people buy Heat magazine? or Closer magazine? Siren enjoyed reading the Fabulous mag that came with the NOTW but she's not fussed, she'll read the same stuff in whatever other redtop I buy from now on - as long it's got a magazine in it. It amazes me that so many people state that they don't read the celeb stuff but, to be brutally honest, you have to have your head up your own ass to not be exposed to it at all. It's everywhere, not just in the papers - but it doesn't make someone a bad person for reading or watching it. | |||
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"They will just bring out another paper with another name which is worse the people who write the rubbish or the people who buy it Would you care to quantify that statement. I buy the NOTW as it has the best sports section in any paper I've read (I'm a football fan and it's football reporting is second to none). Does that make me worse than the people who wrote the stories based on the info gained from the hacked phone of a dead teenager?" You buy the whole paper not just the sports pages they print what they think the buyers want to read and the sales which you contribute they take as proof if it was still carrying on production would you continue to buy it regardless | |||
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"Never bought it anyway "Yeah....but have you been IN it? | |||
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"i think the spin machine must be in overdrive tonight at number 10 ,lol " Cameron got in there quickly two days ago when he utterly condemned the hacking scandal and called it 'disgusting'. That is extremely harsh talking from a politician and carried a lot of weight with the NOTW advertisers. | |||
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"If you usually buy it on a Sunday, will you be buying it this week? " Karzi paper...fit for people who struggle to read the Sun...Shows journos up for the vile people they are. | |||
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"You buy the whole paper not just the sports pages they print what they think the buyers want to read and the sales which you contribute they take as proof if it was still carrying on production would you continue to buy it regardless " Yes I would still buy it. I've bought it for years, my father bought it for years, my mother still reads it. Would we suddenly be bad people for continuing to do so? I read the sports section, then have a quick glimpse at page 3 which usually has a scantilly clad woman on it, then give it to Siren, and she'll read the celeb stuff and whatever news stories take her fancy. Regardless of what part of it we read we're usually done with it two hours after we've bought it. | |||
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"Rupert Murdoch is going to leave Andy Coulson and Rebekah Brooks hanging out there to dry to try and save his son James...... plus shutting the news of the world in theory means his Bskyb bid may go thru more smoothly..... as they plurality question over media ownership should be lower.... so cutting the cancerous bit off for the bigger picture...." The bottom line is there is at this moment in time absolutely no evidence that James Murdoch was in any way connected to the phone hacking, any suggestions to the contrary on forums like this are just idle guess work. The police couldn't even finger Andy Coulson for the offence and he was way down the food chain. | |||
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"You buy the whole paper not just the sports pages they print what they think the buyers want to read and the sales which you contribute they take as proof if it was still carrying on production would you continue to buy it regardless Yes I would still buy it. I've bought it for years, my father bought it for years, my mother still reads it. Would we suddenly be bad people for continuing to do so? I read the sports section, then have a quick glimpse at page 3 which usually has a scantilly clad woman on it, then give it to Siren, and she'll read the celeb stuff and whatever news stories take her fancy. Regardless of what part of it we read we're usually done with it two hours after we've bought it. " I stopped buying it and the sun after hillborough i have found my sports coverage elsewhere and avoided the trash does it make you bad that you would continue to buy it in my mind yes but everyone is entitled to their _iew and i dont want to cause any offence to you | |||
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"As Ghandi said:- "Only a fuckwit reads a newspaper and believes he's gained knowledge. The best one can hope for is that the page 3 girl has nice tits" A wise man." Ah, someone who gets it, just because somebody reads something in a paper /magazine, doesn't always mean they believe everything in it. | |||
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"Rupert Murdoch is going to leave Andy Coulson and Rebekah Brooks hanging out there to dry to try and save his son James...... plus shutting the news of the world in theory means his Bskyb bid may go thru more smoothly..... as they plurality question over media ownership should be lower.... so cutting the cancerous bit off for the bigger picture...." yep corporate manipulation at its best and worst , i got a feeling the taint from the perpetrating and assisting in corruption of police officers will kill the bskyb deal ,fingers crossed.. | |||
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"As Ghandi said:- "Only a fuckwit reads a newspaper and believes he's gained knowledge. The best one can hope for is that the page 3 girl has nice tits" A wise man." | |||
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" everyone is entitled to their _iew and i dont want to cause any offence to you " too late. | |||
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"Rupert Murdoch is going to leave Andy Coulson and Rebekah Brooks hanging out there to dry to try and save his son James...... plus shutting the news of the world in theory means his Bskyb bid may go thru more smoothly..... as they plurality question over media ownership should be lower.... so cutting the cancerous bit off for the bigger picture.... The bottom line is there is at this moment in time absolutely no evidence that James Murdoch was in any way connected to the phone hacking, any suggestions to the contrary on forums like this are just idle guess work. The police couldn't even finger Andy Coulson for the offence and he was way down the food chain." ahhh but is that the legit police or the ones on the payroll ,lots of stuff is drip feeding out now ,and with a lot of unmemployed disgruntled employees on the market i think the fallout will get a lot worse quite soon ,anyway what happened to "the buck stops here" if its good enough for a US presidency a la Nixon its good enough for Murdoch. | |||
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" The bottom line is there is at this moment in time absolutely no evidence that James Murdoch was in any way connected to the phone hacking, any suggestions to the contrary on forums like this are just idle guess work. The police couldn't even finger Andy Coulson for the offence and he was way down the food chain." looks like that they may have enough on andy coulson.... guardian are reporting he is going to be arrested tomorrow in regards to the phone hacking... which is going to turn the spotlight back onto David Cameron.....hmmmm | |||
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" The bottom line is there is at this moment in time absolutely no evidence that James Murdoch was in any way connected to the phone hacking, any suggestions to the contrary on forums like this are just idle guess work. The police couldn't even finger Andy Coulson for the offence and he was way down the food chain." I beg to differ. According to Tom Watson, James Murdoch personally signed-off the hush-payments to various people they had hacked thus he was absolutely aware of what was happening. Perhaps you should also amend your last sentence to "the police WOULDN'T even finger Andy Coulson" as it looks like they were in bed with him. | |||
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"So how does that implicate James Murdoch in the decision to hack phones because he sanctioned compensation payments to complainents? Now if they had a cheque from JM that paid the private eye who did the hacking it would be a whole different story.....but lets face it, that ain't ever going to happen is it?" the story still has legs Jane ,when the implicated police have there head in the noose they will squeal rather than go inside.. If the Guardian is right and Coulson is to have his collar felt tomorrow, then it has lept into a whole different league in my opinion.one can only watch and see how far the dominoes fall. | |||
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"So how does that implicate James Murdoch in the decision to hack phones because he sanctioned compensation payments to complainents? Now if they had a cheque from JM that paid the private eye who did the hacking it would be a whole different story.....but lets face it, that ain't ever going to happen is it?" He was aware of the hacking at least ex-post-facto. Your initial line was he was not involved or aware in any capacity. | |||
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"So how does that implicate James Murdoch in the decision to hack phones because he sanctioned compensation payments to complainents? Now if they had a cheque from JM that paid the private eye who did the hacking it would be a whole different story.....but lets face it, that ain't ever going to happen is it? He was aware of the hacking at least ex-post-facto. Your initial line was he was not involved or aware in any capacity. " He was indeed involved after the police opened their initial enquiry....there has been no suggestion that compensation payments were paid out before that point....unless of course you have evidence that hasn't been released yet? | |||
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"All conjecture though isn't it? It should be remembered that it was the Newsgroup directors themselves who asked the police to examine new E Mail and Computer evidence the company had uncovered in the New Year....The whole Newsgroup/News International/News Corp. outfit is like a giant onion with so many layers of management that ensure that JM is always well out of arms reach of Editorial matters and decisions on the shop floor. I think the conspiracy theorists will be harping on about this for years after it has all been cleared up..... " Well its a bit of a PR nightmare for the team at the top of news Int at the very least, I hope this can of worms spreads to infect all the guilty,but he can not plead the 5th they already tried that ,all that is left is to admit incompetance in their dealings and maladministration, that will hurt their chances with the BskyB deal,the people appear rightly angry even after his statement this afternoon, if the tweets and Blogs are any measure. | |||
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"can I just say that after seeing hugh grant on question time, and now Steve Coogan on newsnight absolutely ripping sleazy NotW journo's to pieces... I will never say a bad thing about there movies ever again... I thought at one stage Coogan was going to jump the table and lamp him one! "Brilliant stuff. Coogan really gralloched the Wapping Wanker. Hugh Grant on Question Time was really quite laid back in accepting the condemnation of aspects of his private life yet managing to find Jon Gaunt's jugular with every word. | |||
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"Just had a thought.... Did the "Fake Sheikh" have a hand in NOTW's downfall "But did the "Fake Sheikh" play an important role? Not dissimilar to unmaked police cars. How many wrongdoers turn themselves in? Even if they did, where would be the evidence to convict. Entrapment maybe, but the video evidence spoke volumes. In the video of Rebekah Brooks ( 2003?) did she so easily and honestly admit to paying ie buying the Police. It seemed so genuine and honest to me that thet did. Why would she have lied? | |||
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"Just had a thought.... Did the "Fake Sheikh" have a hand in NOTW's downfall
But did the "Fake Sheikh" play an important role? Not dissimilar to unmaked police cars.
How many wrongdoers turn themselves in? Even if they did, where would be the evidence to convict. Entrapment maybe, but the video evidence spoke volumes.
In the video of Rebekah Brooks ( 2003?) did she so easily and honestly admit to paying ie buying the Police. It seemed so genuine and honest to me that thet did. Why would she have lied? "She didn't lie (in her head). She genuinely believed she had a 'get out of jail free' card. She hadn't, hasn't and might well regret the fact soon ............ and often. | |||
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" She didn't lie at all. It was open , quick and honest. Yes, we paid the police." That's the point I was making. She genuinely believed it was OK to bribe police officers. Given that she said it in front of a House of Commons Select Committee, live on BBC Parliament channel - why is she still walking the streets pretending to be a human being? | |||
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" She didn't lie at all. It was open , quick and honest. Yes, we paid the police. That's the point I was making. She genuinely believed it was OK to bribe police officers. Given that she said it in front of a House of Commons Select Committee, live on BBC Parliament channel - why is she still walking the streets pretending to be a human being?" Precisely. But of equal if not more impoartance, why are the recievers of said payments not being hung out to dry? And why, other than institutionalised corruption, have investigating bodies not acted upon it in the meantime? | |||
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" Precisely. But of equal if not more impoartance, why are the recievers of said payments not being hung out to dry? " The police force are still conducting enquiries as to which officers took money. They know they have to get this right and it's going to take a bit of time to nail these bent coppers to the mast so tightly they'll have no way of wriggling off the hook. | |||
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" Precisely. But of equal if not more impoartance, why are the recievers of said payments not being hung out to dry? The police force are still conducting enquiries as to which officers took money. They know they have to get this right and it's going to take a bit of time to nail these bent coppers to the mast so tightly they'll have no way of wriggling off the hook." Wasn't the video, parliamentary committee evidence some 8 years ago? How long do they need? The worrying aspect is that no one else besides RB thought anyone had done anything wrong. | |||
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"I'm not really a reader of the NotW but it's a shame that a newspaper with such a long tradition - it was first published in 1843 according to Wikipedia - is ceasing publication simply because it's been made a sacrificial lamb for News International." In a nutshell. +1 | |||
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"can I just say that after seeing hugh grant on question time, and now Steve Coogan on newsnight absolutely ripping sleazy NotW journo's to pieces... I will never say a bad thing about there movies ever again... I thought at one stage Coogan was going to jump the table and lamp him one!
Brilliant stuff. Coogan really gralloched the Wapping Wanker.
Hugh Grant on Question Time was really quite laid back in accepting the condemnation of aspects of his private life yet managing to find Jon Gaunt's jugular with every word."yeah i watched that and thought Grant equited himself well,Although i feel dreadfully sorry for the honest journalists who are losing there job ,its corporate expediency doing it,We have witnessed good british people being chucked on the dole by corporations for 30 odd years. I am glad the NOTW is going,i can not believe that any paper which stooped to the depths they did deserves to survive. Apart from the dead and there families bveing victims ,to hack a deputy prime ministers phone in time of conflict was illegal and to me unpatriotic and surely an official secrets issue. And the inept head of the paper says there is worse to come,I hope the public anger now gives the politicians the guts to bury the knife deep into news international | |||
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" ............. Apart from the dead and there families bveing victims ,to hack a deputy prime ministers phone in time of conflict was illegal and to me unpatriotic and surely an official secrets issue. ............." Whilst I agree about it being illegal, unpatriotic and contrary to the Official Secrets Act I doubt anyone hacking the DPM's voicemail would have discovered much - or anything at all. I doubt Prescott would ever have used voicemail on his official phone. He wouldn't have needed to. If he wasn't able to answer it his PPS would answer it and the rest of the time his protection team would have had control over it. I'd be very surprised if any official mobiles have voicemail switched on but, if they were, I'm certain the factory PIN would have been changed. What Prescott did with his personal mobile is another matter but he managed to keep his affair from his wife for long enough so maybe he knows a bit about being careful with phones after all. | |||
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"Acording to the mirror labour have been warned off by murdoch henchmen at news int,saying if you keep calling for rebekah to resign there will be repercussions and we will pull the plug on labour for ever. " Did they speak like 'they do ron, ron!' and wear thin black ties and have crew cuts? I'm sorry, but I'm chuckling away here. | |||
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" Hugh Grant on Question Time was really quite laid back in accepting the condemnation of aspects of his private life yet managing to find Jon Gaunt's jugular with every word. " I thought it was a very cheap shot which made the man making it look an idiot. | |||
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" Hugh Grant on Question Time was really quite laid back in accepting the condemnation of aspects of his private life yet managing to find Jon Gaunt's jugular with every word. I thought it was a very cheap shot which made the man making it look an idiot." Defo. He was squirming for every second he was on camera. Hugh Grant could well find himself a new career if he should want one. I thought he came across very well. | |||
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"I'll be buying the paper on Sunday, if only for nostalgic reasons. I'll miss it if I'm honest, as I've bought it virtually every weekend for the last 20 years. A sad day for British journalism, as even though some of the journos committed stupefying acts of idiocy, the NOTW has done a lot of good voer the years. Sarah's Law came into existence due to the NOTW's relentless campaigning and that is some achievement. Yes, I'll certainly miss it." "The News of the World has done a lot of good over the years". Really? Such as whipping up hatred of the Germans, the French, Moslems, workers who join unions and stand up for themselves ,deriding women who campaign against the sexist attitudes of publications such as the News of the World, and sneering at those who don't want to spend their lives in ignorance? It was a foul rag and Britain will be cleaner without it. | |||
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" Really? Such as whipping up hatred of the Germans, the French, Moslems, workers who join unions and stand up for themselves ,deriding women who campaign against the sexist attitudes of publications such as the News of the World, and sneering at those who don't want to spend their lives in ignorance? It was a foul rag and Britain will be cleaner without it. " Oh come of it! Like the NOTW was solely responsible for the way the British public feel about the Germans and the French. It's a national past-time to take the piss out of them, eg: Fawlty Towers, Al Murray Pub Landlord, to name one from the past and one very recent. As for Moslems, I don't recall ever seeing an anti-moslem tirade in the NOTW, it would have never got past the censors. Sure it highlighted those clerics that were stirring up hatred from within this country, which it had every right to do as a provider of news. Yes, it had a lot wrong with it, but millions of people bought it every week for whatever reasons they bought it for. Personally, I bought it primarily for it's sports coverage. | |||
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"It'll be a collectors item in years to come ... but don't think I will bother." me either | |||
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"If I was James Murdoch I wouldn't be thinking about launching another sunday title as any title they launch will be perceived as the NOTW in disguise. I would take the paper they have already - The Sun - and print it seven days a week. Not the Sunday Sun, just The Sun. It's a known brand and far enough removed from the NOTW to weather any criticisms. Pad it out a bit on Sundays and hey presto, business as usual." The Sunday Sun already exists. It's a local North East paper. | |||
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" Really? Such as whipping up hatred of the Germans, the French, Moslems, workers who join unions and stand up for themselves ,deriding women who campaign against the sexist attitudes of publications such as the News of the World, and sneering at those who don't want to spend their lives in ignorance? It was a foul rag and Britain will be cleaner without it. Oh come of it! Like the NOTW was solely responsible for the way the British public feel about the Germans and the French. It's a national past-time to take the piss out of them, eg: Fawlty Towers, Al Murray Pub Landlord, to name one from the past and one very recent. As for Moslems, I don't recall ever seeing an anti-moslem tirade in the NOTW, it would have never got past the censors. Sure it highlighted those clerics that were stirring up hatred from within this country, which it had every right to do as a provider of news. Yes, it had a lot wrong with it, but millions of people bought it every week for whatever reasons they bought it for. Personally, I bought it primarily for it's sports coverage." In the same way as people bought Playboy "for the articles"? The News of the World chose targets which they believed would resonate with certain sections of society and encourage people to buy their 'newspaper'. No morals, no principles - just profit. | |||
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" Really? Such as whipping up hatred of the Germans, the French, Moslems, workers who join unions and stand up for themselves ,deriding women who campaign against the sexist attitudes of publications such as the News of the World, and sneering at those who don't want to spend their lives in ignorance? It was a foul rag and Britain will be cleaner without it. Oh come of it! Like the NOTW was solely responsible for the way the British public feel about the Germans and the French. It's a national past-time to take the piss out of them, eg: Fawlty Towers, Al Murray Pub Landlord, to name one from the past and one very recent. As for Moslems, I don't recall ever seeing an anti-moslem tirade in the NOTW, it would have never got past the censors. Sure it highlighted those clerics that were stirring up hatred from within this country, which it had every right to do as a provider of news. Yes, it had a lot wrong with it, but millions of people bought it every week for whatever reasons they bought it for. Personally, I bought it primarily for it's sports coverage." A provider of news indeed. I well remember its coverage of Tianamen Square.I was there and witnessed what happened first hand, and this squalid rags coverage of the event bore no resemblance to the truth whatsoever. And with regard to Moslem clerics, I have plenty of first hand experience of fundamentalist Moslems in places like Pakistan to know the danger they pose, but I also have plenty of experience of Zionists to know that they are equally dangerous, and Rupert Murdoch is a Zionist. I would no more trust what one of his publications says about Moslems than I would trust what a newspaper published in Islamabad says about Jews. Like many members of FabSwingers I 'lurked' in the Forum reading peoples' posts and I note that you are a member of the Conservative Party. I wonder what great Conservative figures such as Lord Salisbury and Joseph Chamberlain would have to say on learning that their Party associated with an immoral, vulgar lout like Murdoch? I have no idea what 'Al Murray Pub Landlord' is; I have better things to do than watch banal television programmes. | |||
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" I wonder what great Conservative figures such as Lord Salisbury and Joseph Chamberlain would have to say on learning that their Party associated with an immoral, vulgar lout like Murdoch? " I suspect they'd have supped with anyone promising to deliver votes. That said, the Tories ain't unique in that. | |||
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"i cant remember the last time i bought a paper... just read the kak online lol " That's part of the problem. Fewer and fewer people are buying newspapers and the publishers having to try harder and become more extreme and outrageous to try to attract readers. | |||
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" I wonder what great Conservative figures such as Lord Salisbury and Joseph Chamberlain would have to say on learning that their Party associated with an immoral, vulgar lout like Murdoch? I suspect they'd have supped with anyone promising to deliver votes. I take it you haven't read anything about Lord Salisbury or Joseph Chamberlain then, but this aside, I think people such as MacDonald and Bevan would have been equally dismayed to learn that their Labour Party was associating with the likes of Murdoch. That said, the Tories ain't unique in that." | |||
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" Like many members of FabSwingers I 'lurked' in the Forum reading peoples' posts and I note that you are a member of the Conservative Party. " Voting Conservative does make one a member of the party. I note that Ed Milliband was very quick to distance himself and his party from the NOTW as he knows full well that politicians have to court the media when they are seeking support for themselves and their policies. As for Tiannamen Square, I don't believe that we got the full picture of what went on there either, but then when has the Chinese govt ever allowed unfettered reporting of events within China. | |||
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"Rupert Murdoch a Zionist? Thought he was a strict Roman Catholic? "He can't be that strict. He's been married at least twice and maybe 3 times. | |||
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"Rupert Murdoch a Zionist? Thought he was a strict Roman Catholic?
He can't be that strict. He's been married at least twice and maybe 3 times."He's a Roman Catholic then....but a Zionist? | |||
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" Like many members of FabSwingers I 'lurked' in the Forum reading peoples' posts and I note that you are a member of the Conservative Party. Voting Conservative does make one a member of the party. ................." That'll come as a great surprise to the folks at Conservative central Office. | |||
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" Like many members of FabSwingers I 'lurked' in the Forum reading peoples' posts and I note that you are a member of the Conservative Party. Voting Conservative does make one a member of the party. ................. That'll come as a great surprise to the folks at Conservative central Office." I'm sure it will considering I've never sent them an application form nor membership dues. What's the issue here exactly? Does voting Labour make one a party member, or is it just assumed due to one's working class roots? | |||
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" It's a national past-time to take the piss out of them, eg: Fawlty Towers, Al Murray Pub Landlord, to name one from the past and one very recent. " small point but you seem to be missing the point, the zenophobia of the pub landlord is the Joke not what is said about the Germans or French. He is basically taking the piss out of narrow minded bigots (his words) | |||
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" It's a national past-time to take the piss out of them, eg: Fawlty Towers, Al Murray Pub Landlord, to name one from the past and one very recent. small point but you seem to be missing the point, the zenophobia of the pub landlord is the Joke not what is said about the Germans or French. He is basically taking the piss out of narrow minded bigots (his words)" Yes, I know he is taking the piss out of bigots but lesser informed people identify with his character as a modern day Alf Garnet. Most stand up comedians today don't use material relating to Germans/WW2 as it is deemed offensive - mainly to Germans unsurprisingly - but I have seen them have not so sly digs at the French if the humour in context requires it. I don't think the NOTW were ever guilty of making outright 'all frenchmen are bastards' racist statements, but sure, they did use humour in their headlines (usually by inserting the word 'Le' in front of an English word), but I don't believe it was ever designed to be malicious. | |||
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"Rupert Murdoch a Zionist? Thought he was a strict Roman Catholic?
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He's a Roman Catholic then....but a Zionist?"Rupert Murdochs mother, Elizabeth Greene, was a Jew, which, in Tamudic Law, as well as the law of the State of Israel, makes him a Jew.His Zionist leanings are well-known in other parts of the world and have been publicized by anti-Zionist Jewish figures such as Henriette Dahan-Kalev and Lev Grinberg. A deeply repellent man in all ways. In an attempt to ingratiate himself with the Chinese Government, he said (in a dazzling display of his complete ignorance of Buddhism) "the Dalai Lama has to understand that he is not the Son of God". In Britain, meanwhile, he panders to the monarchists who read his publications, and yet, as is well-known in Australia, he himself is a republican. | |||
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" Like many members of FabSwingers I 'lurked' in the Forum reading peoples' posts and I note that you are a member of the Conservative Party. Voting Conservative does make one a member of the party. ................. That'll come as a great surprise to the folks at Conservative central Office. I'm sure it will considering I've never sent them an application form nor membership dues. What's the issue here exactly? Does voting Labour make one a party member, or is it just assumed due to one's working class roots?" Just to make something clear here. I am not waving the flag of any political party or grouping. There isn't a political party in the country with whom I don't share at least some common ground, and I can respect a political figure without agreeing with his or her _iews. My point is that prominent figures in both the Conservative and Labour Parties of the past such as Lord Salisbury and Ramsay MacDonald would not have had anything to do with the likes of the deeply repellent Rupert Murdoch because they were far more principled than many of todays political figures. | |||
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" Like many members of FabSwingers I 'lurked' in the Forum reading peoples' posts and I note that you are a member of the Conservative Party. Voting Conservative does make one a member of the party. I note that Ed Milliband was very quick to distance himself and his party from the NOTW as he knows full well that politicians have to court the media when they are seeking support for themselves and their policies. As for Tiannamen Square, I don't believe that we got the full picture of what went on there either, but then when has the Chinese govt ever allowed unfettered reporting of events within China." Two wrongs don't make a right. | |||
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"Rupert Murdoch a Zionist? Thought he was a strict Roman Catholic?
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He's a Roman Catholic then....but a Zionist?
Rupert Murdochs mother, Elizabeth Greene, was a Jew, which, in Tamudic Law, as well as the law of the State of Israel, makes him a Jew.His Zionist leanings are well-known in other parts of the world and have been publicized by anti-Zionist Jewish figures such as Henriette Dahan-Kalev and Lev Grinberg.
A deeply repellent man in all ways. In an attempt to ingratiate himself with the Chinese Government, he said (in a dazzling display of his complete ignorance of Buddhism) "the Dalai Lama has to understand that he is not the Son of God". In Britain, meanwhile, he panders to the monarchists who read his publications, and yet, as is well-known in Australia, he himself is a republican."As I said above " No morals, no principles - just profit." He'll be whoever he thinks people will pay him to be. | |||
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"Just watched Milliband pontificating the closure on tv, what hypocrite the labour party were happy to jump in bed with Murdock to get them elected in 1997, makes me wonder if its just the notw that we should been taking a close look at" Wasn't Miliband (E) still in short trousers in 1997? | |||
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