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By *i tor and the snowdog OP   Couple  over a year ago

walsall/coventry

A discussion point

Would you allow a member of NHS staff to jump the queue for results/ treatment to get them back to work quicker to staff wards better and to ultimately make hospitals better equipped to look after people

Depending on what I was waiting for I think I would

Thoughts please guys

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham

As in their personal rest results? Or results for patients?

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By *i tor and the snowdog OP   Couple  over a year ago

walsall/coventry


"As in their personal rest results? Or results for patients? "

Personal

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes

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By *inkerbell67Woman  over a year ago

Clacton on sea essex

I worked for nhs for 14 years and never got seen quick just becouse I was staff ...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Initial thought is yes. As you say they get back to work quicker and those of us who aren't NHS staff then benefit from a fuller capacity NHS.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes as had been done for me and been there 4 years

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By *lue NarwhalMan  over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

Absolutely..

I think all front line staff that work in very stressful and dangerous roles (nhs staff, police, ambulance and firefighters) deserve a little recognition and a perk for doing what is an awful job.

Military personnel have this offered to them, so why not other public servants.. except tax inspectors, make them buggers wait..

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By *cduck and Blue eyesCouple  over a year ago

nr chester


"A discussion point

Would you allow a member of NHS staff to jump the queue for results/ treatment to get them back to work quicker to staff wards better and to ultimately make hospitals better equipped to look after people

Depending on what I was waiting for I think I would

Thoughts please guys "

. Yes, and in many cases they do anyway Mrs blue eyes

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By *gnitemybodyWoman  over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

Yeah I suppose,well it depends what the results are for really,if we're talking life or death then probably not.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Y'know, I think I would for the folks that actually treat and care for people. But far too many admin, management and data crunching positions have been created to try and turn the nhs in to private business and I may feel a little aggrieved at them being treated preferentially to me

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By *i tor and the snowdog OP   Couple  over a year ago

walsall/coventry


"Y'know, I think I would for the folks that actually treat and care for people. But far too many admin, management and data crunching positions have been created to try and turn the nhs in to private business and I may feel a little aggrieved at them being treated preferentially to me "

Great point

They would need to be clinical

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Y'know, I think I would for the folks that actually treat and care for people. But far too many admin, management and data crunching positions have been created to try and turn the nhs in to private business and I may feel a little aggrieved at them being treated preferentially to me "

Transformation... Ugh! Worst kind of staff.

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By *iss.HoneyWoman  over a year ago

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Yes I would, depending on their role within the sector.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham

I guess so.... It's never even crossed my mind who is ahead or behind me when getting results.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham


"Y'know, I think I would for the folks that actually treat and care for people. But far too many admin, management and data crunching positions have been created to try and turn the nhs in to private business and I may feel a little aggrieved at them being treated preferentially to me

Transformation... Ugh! Worst kind of staff."

Why?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Y'know, I think I would for the folks that actually treat and care for people. But far too many admin, management and data crunching positions have been created to try and turn the nhs in to private business and I may feel a little aggrieved at them being treated preferentially to me

Great point

They would need to be clinical "

As somebody that works in a partner organisation, some of those admin staff are pretty crucial to the NHS.

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By *cduck and Blue eyesCouple  over a year ago

nr chester


"Y'know, I think I would for the folks that actually treat and care for people. But far too many admin, management and data crunching positions have been created to try and turn the nhs in to private business and I may feel a little aggrieved at them being treated preferentially to me "
. You'd be suprised how many of the positions you speak of make a huge difference, for eg, a bed manager, non clinical, but work their ass off morning till night to juggle a daily overstretched system, making decisions that can be detrimental and heartbreaking to the individuals involved, making tough calls and having the final say, invariably always the bad guy to someone Mrs blue eyes

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex

I'm not sure, I don't think I would.

Would this apply for example to family carers in the home where someone would need to be admitted to hospital if the carer was ill?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don't think it should happen.

I did work for the nhs years ago and staff did get seen/treatment quicker then so it possibly still happens.

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By *oodnitegirlWoman  over a year ago

Yorkshire

I work for the NHS and am on the waiting list for an op. Its in the field i work in. I havent been seen any quicker.... the only advantage would be to know which secretary to ask to see if theres any cancellations xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Y'know, I think I would for the folks that actually treat and care for people. But far too many admin, management and data crunching positions have been created to try and turn the nhs in to private business and I may feel a little aggrieved at them being treated preferentially to me . You'd be suprised how many of the positions you speak of make a huge difference, for eg, a bed manager, non clinical, but work their ass off morning till night to juggle a daily overstretched system, making decisions that can be detrimental and heartbreaking to the individuals involved, making tough calls and having the final say, invariably always the bad guy to someone Mrs blue eyes "

As soon as I pressed post I knew someone would say this. I said that there are too many admin and manager positions created. I know that there are essential ones.

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By *cduck and Blue eyesCouple  over a year ago

nr chester


"Y'know, I think I would for the folks that actually treat and care for people. But far too many admin, management and data crunching positions have been created to try and turn the nhs in to private business and I may feel a little aggrieved at them being treated preferentially to me . You'd be suprised how many of the positions you speak of make a huge difference, for eg, a bed manager, non clinical, but work their ass off morning till night to juggle a daily overstretched system, making decisions that can be detrimental and heartbreaking to the individuals involved, making tough calls and having the final say, invariably always the bad guy to someone Mrs blue eyes

As soon as I pressed post I knew someone would say this. I said that there are too many admin and manager positions created. I know that there are essential ones."

. Yes but without admin and manager positions, it couldn't run as it does, behind the scene it is equally chaotic and stressful, it can be equally heartbreaking, managers make life changing decisions too, and as for admin positions, well they are as understaffed as everywhere else, thus putting pressure on the staff that already undertake these positions, whilst I don't want to belittle your opinion, and it's your opinion that you are entitled too, the majority of opinions made about admin and managers come from people who have never actually set foot behind the scenes Mrs blue eyes

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Y'know, I think I would for the folks that actually treat and care for people. But far too many admin, management and data crunching positions have been created to try and turn the nhs in to private business and I may feel a little aggrieved at them being treated preferentially to me . You'd be suprised how many of the positions you speak of make a huge difference, for eg, a bed manager, non clinical, but work their ass off morning till night to juggle a daily overstretched system, making decisions that can be detrimental and heartbreaking to the individuals involved, making tough calls and having the final say, invariably always the bad guy to someone Mrs blue eyes

As soon as I pressed post I knew someone would say this. I said that there are too many admin and manager positions created. I know that there are essential ones.. Yes but without admin and manager positions, it couldn't run as it does, behind the scene it is equally chaotic and stressful, it can be equally heartbreaking, managers make life changing decisions too, and as for admin positions, well they are as understaffed as everywhere else, thus putting pressure on the staff that already undertake these positions, whilst I don't want to belittle your opinion, and it's your opinion that you are entitled too, the majority of opinions made about admin and managers come from people who have never actually set foot behind the scenes Mrs blue eyes "

I'm mostly informed by close friends that work in the nhs and recently taken over chunks like the child care section in my area.

But like you said, It's just my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Y'know, I think I would for the folks that actually treat and care for people. But far too many admin, management and data crunching positions have been created to try and turn the nhs in to private business and I may feel a little aggrieved at them being treated preferentially to me "

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By *iss.HoneyWoman  over a year ago

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Just NHS staff though?

Surely there are many sectors where it would be an advantage for people to be seen swiftly?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No,nononono

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By *iss.HoneyWoman  over a year ago

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"Just NHS staff though?

Surely there are many sectors where it would be an advantage for people to be seen swiftly? "

Politicians maybe

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By *cduck and Blue eyesCouple  over a year ago

nr chester


"Y'know, I think I would for the folks that actually treat and care for people. But far too many admin, management and data crunching positions have been created to try and turn the nhs in to private business and I may feel a little aggrieved at them being treated preferentially to me . You'd be suprised how many of the positions you speak of make a huge difference, for eg, a bed manager, non clinical, but work their ass off morning till night to juggle a daily overstretched system, making decisions that can be detrimental and heartbreaking to the individuals involved, making tough calls and having the final say, invariably always the bad guy to someone Mrs blue eyes

As soon as I pressed post I knew someone would say this. I said that there are too many admin and manager positions created. I know that there are essential ones.. Yes but without admin and manager positions, it couldn't run as it does, behind the scene it is equally chaotic and stressful, it can be equally heartbreaking, managers make life changing decisions too, and as for admin positions, well they are as understaffed as everywhere else, thus putting pressure on the staff that already undertake these positions, whilst I don't want to belittle your opinion, and it's your opinion that you are entitled too, the majority of opinions made about admin and managers come from people who have never actually set foot behind the scenes Mrs blue eyes

I'm mostly informed by close friends that work in the nhs and recently taken over chunks like the child care section in my area.

But like you said, It's just my opinion."

. And I'm honestly respectful to it, and to be fair everyone's experience will lead them to make their own judgement, I don't believe that anyone will find an easy answer to the nhs and it's problems, all I know for sure is you will go far and wide to find any nhs staff that wont defend the part they play within this amazing service they give, no matter how disheartened they may be, no matter how tough they find it, they may be tired and fragile and almost ready to give up, but they don't, why? The reason is they know that each and everyone of them is a huge integral part to hanging on by the skin of their teeth to something that will at some point be needed by every single one of us. Mrs blue eyes

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By *alcon43Woman  over a year ago

Paisley


"Y'know, I think I would for the folks that actually treat and care for people. But far too many admin, management and data crunching positions have been created to try and turn the nhs in to private business and I may feel a little aggrieved at them being treated preferentially to me

Great point

They would need to be clinical

As somebody that works in a partner organisation, some of those admin staff are pretty crucial to the NHS."

Totally agree. The support staff ensure the patient records are available and test results are in files. Lab staff can work 24/7 to ensure test results are ready as soon as possible. The cleaners ensure the place is kept clean and porters take the patients to where they are meant to be.

People are essential in the whole chain in any organisation. Doesn't seem fair to pick clinical staff over non-clinical at times.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Absolutely would, but I don't think many NHS staff have consultations during work hours, unless it's a work related injury.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Y'know, I think I would for the folks that actually treat and care for people. But far too many admin, management and data crunching positions have been created to try and turn the nhs in to private business and I may feel a little aggrieved at them being treated preferentially to me . You'd be suprised how many of the positions you speak of make a huge difference, for eg, a bed manager, non clinical, but work their ass off morning till night to juggle a daily overstretched system, making decisions that can be detrimental and heartbreaking to the individuals involved, making tough calls and having the final say, invariably always the bad guy to someone Mrs blue eyes

As soon as I pressed post I knew someone would say this. I said that there are too many admin and manager positions created. I know that there are essential ones.. Yes but without admin and manager positions, it couldn't run as it does, behind the scene it is equally chaotic and stressful, it can be equally heartbreaking, managers make life changing decisions too, and as for admin positions, well they are as understaffed as everywhere else, thus putting pressure on the staff that already undertake these positions, whilst I don't want to belittle your opinion, and it's your opinion that you are entitled too, the majority of opinions made about admin and managers come from people who have never actually set foot behind the scenes Mrs blue eyes

I'm mostly informed by close friends that work in the nhs and recently taken over chunks like the child care section in my area.

But like you said, It's just my opinion.. And I'm honestly respectful to it, and to be fair everyone's experience will lead them to make their own judgement, I don't believe that anyone will find an easy answer to the nhs and it's problems, all I know for sure is you will go far and wide to find any nhs staff that wont defend the part they play within this amazing service they give, no matter how disheartened they may be, no matter how tough they find it, they may be tired and fragile and almost ready to give up, but they don't, why? The reason is they know that each and everyone of them is a huge integral part to hanging on by the skin of their teeth to something that will at some point be needed by every single one of us. Mrs blue eyes "

Fair comments

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Y'know, I think I would for the folks that actually treat and care for people. But far too many admin, management and data crunching positions have been created to try and turn the nhs in to private business and I may feel a little aggrieved at them being treated preferentially to me . You'd be suprised how many of the positions you speak of make a huge difference, for eg, a bed manager, non clinical, but work their ass off morning till night to juggle a daily overstretched system, making decisions that can be detrimental and heartbreaking to the individuals involved, making tough calls and having the final say, invariably always the bad guy to someone Mrs blue eyes

As soon as I pressed post I knew someone would say this. I said that there are too many admin and manager positions created. I know that there are essential ones.. Yes but without admin and manager positions, it couldn't run as it does, behind the scene it is equally chaotic and stressful, it can be equally heartbreaking, managers make life changing decisions too, and as for admin positions, well they are as understaffed as everywhere else, thus putting pressure on the staff that already undertake these positions, whilst I don't want to belittle your opinion, and it's your opinion that you are entitled too, the majority of opinions made about admin and managers come from people who have never actually set foot behind the scenes Mrs blue eyes

I'm mostly informed by close friends that work in the nhs and recently taken over chunks like the child care section in my area.

But like you said, It's just my opinion."

Out of curiosity which admin amd support roles do you think could be done away with?

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By *i tor and the snowdog OP   Couple  over a year ago

walsall/coventry


"Y'know, I think I would for the folks that actually treat and care for people. But far too many admin, management and data crunching positions have been created to try and turn the nhs in to private business and I may feel a little aggrieved at them being treated preferentially to me . You'd be suprised how many of the positions you speak of make a huge difference, for eg, a bed manager, non clinical, but work their ass off morning till night to juggle a daily overstretched system, making decisions that can be detrimental and heartbreaking to the individuals involved, making tough calls and having the final say, invariably always the bad guy to someone Mrs blue eyes

As soon as I pressed post I knew someone would say this. I said that there are too many admin and manager positions created. I know that there are essential ones.. Yes but without admin and manager positions, it couldn't run as it does, behind the scene it is equally chaotic and stressful, it can be equally heartbreaking, managers make life changing decisions too, and as for admin positions, well they are as understaffed as everywhere else, thus putting pressure on the staff that already undertake these positions, whilst I don't want to belittle your opinion, and it's your opinion that you are entitled too, the majority of opinions made about admin and managers come from people who have never actually set foot behind the scenes Mrs blue eyes

I'm mostly informed by close friends that work in the nhs and recently taken over chunks like the child care section in my area.

But like you said, It's just my opinion.

Out of curiosity which admin amd support roles do you think could be done away with?"

Oh mr monkey

Always angling for a row

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Y'know, I think I would for the folks that actually treat and care for people. But far too many admin, management and data crunching positions have been created to try and turn the nhs in to private business and I may feel a little aggrieved at them being treated preferentially to me . You'd be suprised how many of the positions you speak of make a huge difference, for eg, a bed manager, non clinical, but work their ass off morning till night to juggle a daily overstretched system, making decisions that can be detrimental and heartbreaking to the individuals involved, making tough calls and having the final say, invariably always the bad guy to someone Mrs blue eyes

As soon as I pressed post I knew someone would say this. I said that there are too many admin and manager positions created. I know that there are essential ones.. Yes but without admin and manager positions, it couldn't run as it does, behind the scene it is equally chaotic and stressful, it can be equally heartbreaking, managers make life changing decisions too, and as for admin positions, well they are as understaffed as everywhere else, thus putting pressure on the staff that already undertake these positions, whilst I don't want to belittle your opinion, and it's your opinion that you are entitled too, the majority of opinions made about admin and managers come from people who have never actually set foot behind the scenes Mrs blue eyes

I'm mostly informed by close friends that work in the nhs and recently taken over chunks like the child care section in my area.

But like you said, It's just my opinion.

Out of curiosity which admin amd support roles do you think could be done away with?

Oh mr monkey

Always angling for a row "

Really?

I think it's a fair enough question, I'm intrigued by these positions that have been refered to

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By *urchoicenowCouple  over a year ago

Ashford

I was hurt on a shout and was in , x-rayed and plastered before the people that were injured in the incident were seen.

I passed them on crutches still waiting in the waiting room.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'd have no issues at NHS staff being seen quicker as long as it wasn't done in a silly way. Clincal need should always come first but after that wouldn't mind being seen behind an NHS staff memeber.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Y'know, I think I would for the folks that actually treat and care for people. But far too many admin, management and data crunching positions have been created to try and turn the nhs in to private business and I may feel a little aggrieved at them being treated preferentially to me . You'd be suprised how many of the positions you speak of make a huge difference, for eg, a bed manager, non clinical, but work their ass off morning till night to juggle a daily overstretched system, making decisions that can be detrimental and heartbreaking to the individuals involved, making tough calls and having the final say, invariably always the bad guy to someone Mrs blue eyes

As soon as I pressed post I knew someone would say this. I said that there are too many admin and manager positions created. I know that there are essential ones.. Yes but without admin and manager positions, it couldn't run as it does, behind the scene it is equally chaotic and stressful, it can be equally heartbreaking, managers make life changing decisions too, and as for admin positions, well they are as understaffed as everywhere else, thus putting pressure on the staff that already undertake these positions, whilst I don't want to belittle your opinion, and it's your opinion that you are entitled too, the majority of opinions made about admin and managers come from people who have never actually set foot behind the scenes Mrs blue eyes

I'm mostly informed by close friends that work in the nhs and recently taken over chunks like the child care section in my area.

But like you said, It's just my opinion.

Out of curiosity which admin amd support roles do you think could be done away with?

Oh mr monkey

Always angling for a row

Really?

I think it's a fair enough question, I'm intrigued by these positions that have been refered to "

And you could never be accused of passive aggressive argumentativeness ever?

Okay. In the particular example of the recent virgin health care acquisition of the aforementioned child health section formerly headquartered at Bath RUH, the roles of management through several tiers and to some extent the admin are having to be duplicated because they will soon no longer be allowed to share nhs resources and are even having to purchase new property to work out of. Just off the off the top of my head

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By *i tor and the snowdog OP   Couple  over a year ago

walsall/coventry


"Y'know, I think I would for the folks that actually treat and care for people. But far too many admin, management and data crunching positions have been created to try and turn the nhs in to private business and I may feel a little aggrieved at them being treated preferentially to me . You'd be suprised how many of the positions you speak of make a huge difference, for eg, a bed manager, non clinical, but work their ass off morning till night to juggle a daily overstretched system, making decisions that can be detrimental and heartbreaking to the individuals involved, making tough calls and having the final say, invariably always the bad guy to someone Mrs blue eyes

As soon as I pressed post I knew someone would say this. I said that there are too many admin and manager positions created. I know that there are essential ones.. Yes but without admin and manager positions, it couldn't run as it does, behind the scene it is equally chaotic and stressful, it can be equally heartbreaking, managers make life changing decisions too, and as for admin positions, well they are as understaffed as everywhere else, thus putting pressure on the staff that already undertake these positions, whilst I don't want to belittle your opinion, and it's your opinion that you are entitled too, the majority of opinions made about admin and managers come from people who have never actually set foot behind the scenes Mrs blue eyes

I'm mostly informed by close friends that work in the nhs and recently taken over chunks like the child care section in my area.

But like you said, It's just my opinion.

Out of curiosity which admin amd support roles do you think could be done away with?

Oh mr monkey

Always angling for a row

Really?

I think it's a fair enough question, I'm intrigued by these positions that have been refered to

And you could never be accused of passive aggressive argumentativeness ever?

Okay. In the particular example of the recent virgin health care acquisition of the aforementioned child health section formerly headquartered at Bath RUH, the roles of management through several tiers and to some extent the admin are having to be duplicated because they will soon no longer be allowed to share nhs resources and are even having to purchase new property to work out of. Just off the off the top of my head "

I love you

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By *iss.HoneyWoman  over a year ago

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"Y'know, I think I would for the folks that actually treat and care for people. But far too many admin, management and data crunching positions have been created to try and turn the nhs in to private business and I may feel a little aggrieved at them being treated preferentially to me . You'd be suprised how many of the positions you speak of make a huge difference, for eg, a bed manager, non clinical, but work their ass off morning till night to juggle a daily overstretched system, making decisions that can be detrimental and heartbreaking to the individuals involved, making tough calls and having the final say, invariably always the bad guy to someone Mrs blue eyes

As soon as I pressed post I knew someone would say this. I said that there are too many admin and manager positions created. I know that there are essential ones.. Yes but without admin and manager positions, it couldn't run as it does, behind the scene it is equally chaotic and stressful, it can be equally heartbreaking, managers make life changing decisions too, and as for admin positions, well they are as understaffed as everywhere else, thus putting pressure on the staff that already undertake these positions, whilst I don't want to belittle your opinion, and it's your opinion that you are entitled too, the majority of opinions made about admin and managers come from people who have never actually set foot behind the scenes Mrs blue eyes

I'm mostly informed by close friends that work in the nhs and recently taken over chunks like the child care section in my area.

But like you said, It's just my opinion.

Out of curiosity which admin amd support roles do you think could be done away with?

Oh mr monkey

Always angling for a row

Really?

I think it's a fair enough question, I'm intrigued by these positions that have been refered to

And you could never be accused of passive aggressive argumentativeness ever?

Okay. In the particular example of the recent virgin health care acquisition of the aforementioned child health section formerly headquartered at Bath RUH, the roles of management through several tiers and to some extent the admin are having to be duplicated because they will soon no longer be allowed to share nhs resources and are even having to purchase new property to work out of. Just off the off the top of my head "

How d'ya like them apples

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By *cduck and Blue eyesCouple  over a year ago

nr chester


"Y'know, I think I would for the folks that actually treat and care for people. But far too many admin, management and data crunching positions have been created to try and turn the nhs in to private business and I may feel a little aggrieved at them being treated preferentially to me . You'd be suprised how many of the positions you speak of make a huge difference, for eg, a bed manager, non clinical, but work their ass off morning till night to juggle a daily overstretched system, making decisions that can be detrimental and heartbreaking to the individuals involved, making tough calls and having the final say, invariably always the bad guy to someone Mrs blue eyes

As soon as I pressed post I knew someone would say this. I said that there are too many admin and manager positions created. I know that there are essential ones.. Yes but without admin and manager positions, it couldn't run as it does, behind the scene it is equally chaotic and stressful, it can be equally heartbreaking, managers make life changing decisions too, and as for admin positions, well they are as understaffed as everywhere else, thus putting pressure on the staff that already undertake these positions, whilst I don't want to belittle your opinion, and it's your opinion that you are entitled too, the majority of opinions made about admin and managers come from people who have never actually set foot behind the scenes Mrs blue eyes

I'm mostly informed by close friends that work in the nhs and recently taken over chunks like the child care section in my area.

But like you said, It's just my opinion.

Out of curiosity which admin amd support roles do you think could be done away with?

Oh mr monkey

Always angling for a row

Really?

I think it's a fair enough question, I'm intrigued by these positions that have been refered to

And you could never be accused of passive aggressive argumentativeness ever?

Okay. In the particular example of the recent virgin health care acquisition of the aforementioned child health section formerly headquartered at Bath RUH, the roles of management through several tiers and to some extent the admin are having to be duplicated because they will soon no longer be allowed to share nhs resources and are even having to purchase new property to work out of. Just off the off the top of my head "

. So sorry I don't mean to sound argumentative, but this was a council and ccg decision, and Virgin care are more than happy with it, I think you'll find that if the managers at Bath RUH had a choice, they would not choose to have their responsibilities removed or their jobs duplicated or lose valued patients and staff using their services or buildings, sorry, like I say not being argumentative, in fact I agree that in lots of cases I'm sure an argument can be found for bad decision making within the NHS, bad management and bad housekeeping but all in all, this service and the staff within it are clawing on to it, whilst councils are making decisions like the above mentioned and slowly trying to privatise it like I say, not here to argue and actually I suppose it's gone a little off point, so apology's to you op Mrs blue eyes

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Y'know, I think I would for the folks that actually treat and care for people. But far too many admin, management and data crunching positions have been created to try and turn the nhs in to private business and I may feel a little aggrieved at them being treated preferentially to me . You'd be suprised how many of the positions you speak of make a huge difference, for eg, a bed manager, non clinical, but work their ass off morning till night to juggle a daily overstretched system, making decisions that can be detrimental and heartbreaking to the individuals involved, making tough calls and having the final say, invariably always the bad guy to someone Mrs blue eyes

As soon as I pressed post I knew someone would say this. I said that there are too many admin and manager positions created. I know that there are essential ones.. Yes but without admin and manager positions, it couldn't run as it does, behind the scene it is equally chaotic and stressful, it can be equally heartbreaking, managers make life changing decisions too, and as for admin positions, well they are as understaffed as everywhere else, thus putting pressure on the staff that already undertake these positions, whilst I don't want to belittle your opinion, and it's your opinion that you are entitled too, the majority of opinions made about admin and managers come from people who have never actually set foot behind the scenes Mrs blue eyes

I'm mostly informed by close friends that work in the nhs and recently taken over chunks like the child care section in my area.

But like you said, It's just my opinion.

Out of curiosity which admin amd support roles do you think could be done away with?

Oh mr monkey

Always angling for a row

Really?

I think it's a fair enough question, I'm intrigued by these positions that have been refered to

And you could never be accused of passive aggressive argumentativeness ever?

Okay. In the particular example of the recent virgin health care acquisition of the aforementioned child health section formerly headquartered at Bath RUH, the roles of management through several tiers and to some extent the admin are having to be duplicated because they will soon no longer be allowed to share nhs resources and are even having to purchase new property to work out of. Just off the off the top of my head . So sorry I don't mean to sound argumentative, but this was a council and ccg decision, and Virgin care are more than happy with it, I think you'll find that if the managers at Bath RUH had a choice, they would not choose to have their responsibilities removed or their jobs duplicated or lose valued patients and staff using their services or buildings, sorry, like I say not being argumentative, in fact I agree that in lots of cases I'm sure an argument can be found for bad decision making within the NHS, bad management and bad housekeeping but all in all, this service and the staff within it are clawing on to it, whilst councils are making decisions like the above mentioned and slowly trying to privatise it like I say, not here to argue and actually I suppose it's gone a little off point, so apology's to you op Mrs blue eyes "

My words are being misconstrued. I have not blamed the nhs at any point for this situation. I know that they have not at any point wanted this.

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By *cduck and Blue eyesCouple  over a year ago

nr chester


"Y'know, I think I would for the folks that actually treat and care for people. But far too many admin, management and data crunching positions have been created to try and turn the nhs in to private business and I may feel a little aggrieved at them being treated preferentially to me . You'd be suprised how many of the positions you speak of make a huge difference, for eg, a bed manager, non clinical, but work their ass off morning till night to juggle a daily overstretched system, making decisions that can be detrimental and heartbreaking to the individuals involved, making tough calls and having the final say, invariably always the bad guy to someone Mrs blue eyes

As soon as I pressed post I knew someone would say this. I said that there are too many admin and manager positions created. I know that there are essential ones.. Yes but without admin and manager positions, it couldn't run as it does, behind the scene it is equally chaotic and stressful, it can be equally heartbreaking, managers make life changing decisions too, and as for admin positions, well they are as understaffed as everywhere else, thus putting pressure on the staff that already undertake these positions, whilst I don't want to belittle your opinion, and it's your opinion that you are entitled too, the majority of opinions made about admin and managers come from people who have never actually set foot behind the scenes Mrs blue eyes

I'm mostly informed by close friends that work in the nhs and recently taken over chunks like the child care section in my area.

But like you said, It's just my opinion.

Out of curiosity which admin amd support roles do you think could be done away with?

Oh mr monkey

Always angling for a row

Really?

I think it's a fair enough question, I'm intrigued by these positions that have been refered to

And you could never be accused of passive aggressive argumentativeness ever?

Okay. In the particular example of the recent virgin health care acquisition of the aforementioned child health section formerly headquartered at Bath RUH, the roles of management through several tiers and to some extent the admin are having to be duplicated because they will soon no longer be allowed to share nhs resources and are even having to purchase new property to work out of. Just off the off the top of my head . So sorry I don't mean to sound argumentative, but this was a council and ccg decision, and Virgin care are more than happy with it, I think you'll find that if the managers at Bath RUH had a choice, they would not choose to have their responsibilities removed or their jobs duplicated or lose valued patients and staff using their services or buildings, sorry, like I say not being argumentative, in fact I agree that in lots of cases I'm sure an argument can be found for bad decision making within the NHS, bad management and bad housekeeping but all in all, this service and the staff within it are clawing on to it, whilst councils are making decisions like the above mentioned and slowly trying to privatise it like I say, not here to argue and actually I suppose it's gone a little off point, so apology's to you op Mrs blue eyes

My words are being misconstrued. I have not blamed the nhs at any point for this situation. I know that they have not at any point wanted this. "

. Apologies if I have misread or misunderstood your point, like I say, I'm not one to argue Mrs blue eyes

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Apologies if I have misread or misunderstood your point, like I say, I'm not one to argue Mrs blue eyes "

Fair enough. I have absolutely no problem with anyone putting across their view from their standpoint either

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke

Absolutely not. If we must have an NHS then it should not be a two tier system for any special interest group.

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By *ungBlackTopMan  over a year ago

salford

yes they should be seen quicker and have access to results sooner, be offered gold standard investigations first line and see the best in the profession as a priority. Other professions have perks of their jobs so why can't NHS staff? Those against it have no idea what NHS stuff have to deal with on a daily basis for no appreciation so given them some pay back in relation to sorting them out sooner is a good start to compensate for all the shit the put up with.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Absolutely not. If we must have an NHS then it should not be a two tier system for any special interest group. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"yes they should be seen quicker and have access to results sooner, be offered gold standard investigations first line and see the best in the profession as a priority. Other professions have perks of their jobs so why can't NHS staff? Those against it have no idea what NHS stuff have to deal with on a daily basis for no appreciation so given them some pay back in relation to sorting them out sooner is a good start to compensate for all the shit the put up with."

Im very much against it and i did work in the nhs for many years so i do appreciate what they (and me) put up with.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"yes they should be seen quicker and have access to results sooner, be offered gold standard investigations first line and see the best in the profession as a priority. Other professions have perks of their jobs so why can't NHS staff? Those against it have no idea what NHS stuff have to deal with on a daily basis for no appreciation so given them some pay back in relation to sorting them out sooner is a good start to compensate for all the shit the put up with.

Im very much against it and i did work in the nhs for many years so i do appreciate what they (and me) put up with."

Why not let those with the highest incomes jump the queue? If they took less sick days then they would earn more money and therefore pay more tax so the NHS would be better funded for everyone. I don't agree with that idea for one minute but it borrows the same logic.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We think this would be a terrible idea.

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By *i tor and the snowdog OP   Couple  over a year ago

walsall/coventry

Oh how I've missed the forums

Some of you could start an arguement in an empty room

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Oh how I've missed the forums

Some of you could start an arguement in an empty room"

I disagree

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By *i tor and the snowdog OP   Couple  over a year ago

walsall/coventry


"Oh how I've missed the forums

Some of you could start an arguement in an empty room

I disagree "

Oh no you don't

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By *iss.HoneyWoman  over a year ago

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"Oh how I've missed the forums

Some of you could start an arguement in an empty room"

If I was in it then how would the room be empty?

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By *i tor and the snowdog OP   Couple  over a year ago

walsall/coventry


"Oh how I've missed the forums

Some of you could start an arguement in an empty room

If I was in it then how would the room be empty? "

Hehe

I rest my case

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By *iss.HoneyWoman  over a year ago

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"Oh how I've missed the forums

Some of you could start an arguement in an empty room

If I was in it then how would the room be empty?

Hehe

I rest my case "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I work for the NHS and got seen quicker because of my position. I don't feel bad about it, for a second...

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