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Just watching the news and an article was on about professional male nannies.
Looked like they could change a decent nappy.
What's everyone's view on it?
If that's the career path then go for it is my view. |
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"I don't get why this Needs to be a news story. Same as men working in pre school settings and male child minders. Why wouldn't they? "
my thoughts exactly...
plus its not a new thing anyway... |
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By *s_macWoman
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"Male nannies have been a big thing in america for quite some time so not sure why its now newsworthy
I don't get why it's a thing though? "
I don't either, its a bit like as a woman being congratulated because the father of your kids 'helps' with the parenting  |
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"Male nannies have been a big thing in america for quite some time so not sure why its now newsworthy
I don't get why it's a thing though? "
Husband less like to be having an affair with the nanny that way |
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Having worked in childcare for 20 years I can count on one hand the number of male nursery practitioners that I've worked with. Unfortunately childcare is still seen as an "easy" job, let alone a male role, so it's not a traditional job that men would go for and unfortunately in this day and age of people jumping to conclusions about awful stuff, I can see why it would be considered a newsworthy item. |
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"Male nannies have been a big thing in america for quite some time so not sure why its now newsworthy
I don't get why it's a thing though?
Husband less like to be having an affair with the nanny that way "
Oh. The stereotypes. What on earth does that have to do with anything?  |
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"Having worked in childcare for 20 years I can count on one hand the number of male nursery practitioners that I've worked with. Unfortunately childcare is still seen as an "easy" job, let alone a male role, so it's not a traditional job that men would go for and unfortunately in this day and age of people jumping to conclusions about awful stuff, I can see why it would be considered a newsworthy item. "
When you see top level female politicians suggesting that men only do the job because they are interested in sexually molesting their charges, it's fairly easy to see the problem.
Furthermore families do not employ male nannies for fear of them trying to shag the mother and other things, you wonder why men don't go for it?
And as for the rather misguided thread I linked to above, it is interesting to see the reaction to the two threads which are basically the same but with the sexes reversed.
Nicola Adams is a fantastic person and deserves every ounce of success she gets. |
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"https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/623107#message_13054438
Double standards are hilarious."
What on earth are you whinging about? What double standards?? |
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"https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/623107#message_13054438
Double standards are hilarious."
What double standards? The overruling comments on both threads were "so what? " |
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As has been mentioned before it not a common thing. I guess gender stereotypes and hostile attitudes towards male nanny's make it not an appealing job for males.
It shouldn't be a thing of course. It should just be a world that gives oppertunities to let people be what they are good at. But the world is not conditioned like that. I am a single dad and often the reaction of people when they find out is that of amazement and admiration. Like I am some sort of special abnormal human. Why because it seems dad's are not expected to take the kids on, especially ones as young as mine. But it's stupid because am I not a parent too, do I not love my kids as much because I am a male? It makes me uncomfortable the way the world seems to treat me different as a single male parent.
So obviously it is a thing. Is the lack of male nanny's a problem or are attitudes forming a barrier to keep males out of the profession? Is so I believe it's news worthy as a columnist type article (but hardly news of the world). I don't think it will suddenly make many men want to do the job or demand for male nanny's rise. But it is a useful vehicle to get people thinking about the issuses around it and therefore has some value to society. |
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"I don't get why this Needs to be a news story. Same as men working in pre school settings and male child minders. Why wouldn't they? "
88% of primary school teachers are female so the question is really "why don't they?" |
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"I don't get why this Needs to be a news story. Same as men working in pre school settings and male child minders. Why wouldn't they? "
Same reason women in STEM/business is "news" its rare.
God knows why any man would choose the lowest earning sector though for a career path |
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"I don't get why this Needs to be a news story. Same as men working in pre school settings and male child minders. Why wouldn't they?
88% of primary school teachers are female so the question is really "why don't they?" "
Cause careing and early education is a very low paid sector.
As a trend men tend to go for higher incomes over job "satisfacrion" |
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"I don't get why this Needs to be a news story. Same as men working in pre school settings and male child minders. Why wouldn't they?
88% of primary school teachers are female so the question is really "why don't they?"
Cause careing and early education is a very low paid sector.
As a trend men tend to go for higher incomes over job "satisfacrion""
Well that and the biological differences between men and women mean that men are less likely to even get equal or more job satisfaction from working with children. Even if they did and could stomach the pay, 95-96% of paedophiles are male so they are also less likely to get hired. |
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A hint.
It's not a news story.
Read the op on the link I posted and marvel at the patronising tone and the tone of the responses then read the op for this thread and marvel at the responses to that and how changing the sex changes the way people respond. |
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"A hint.
It's not a news story.
Read the op on the link I posted and marvel at the patronising tone and the tone of the responses then read the op for this thread and marvel at the responses to that and how changing the sex changes the way people respond. "
There seems to be an increasing trend on fab of people who resent discussion, even if it's just for the sake of discussion. In notice this whenever someone asks if a particular label should apply to them and the first few responses will inevitably be "why do labels matter?" |
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"Just watching the news and an article was on about professional male nannies.
Looked like they could change a decent nappy.
What's everyone's view on it?
If that's the career path then go for it is my view."
As long as they are correctly trained and pass all relevant checks why not ? |
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"A hint.
It's not a news story.
Read the op on the link I posted and marvel at the patronising tone and the tone of the responses then read the op for this thread and marvel at the responses to that and how changing the sex changes the way people respond.
There seems to be an increasing trend on fab of people who resent discussion, even if it's just for the sake of discussion. In notice this whenever someone asks if a particular label should apply to them and the first few responses will inevitably be "why do labels matter?" "
Criticising someone's viewpoint and way of putting something across is not resenting discussion. It is itself a discussion. If a person is saying something which is worthy of criticism then they ought to be criticised. Then they have the opportunity to respond and a good grown up discussion can take place.
The idea that responses must only be along preset lines is damaging and limiting and does more to suppress discussion than anything else. |
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"A hint.
It's not a news story.
Read the op on the link I posted and marvel at the patronising tone and the tone of the responses then read the op for this thread and marvel at the responses to that and how changing the sex changes the way people respond.
There seems to be an increasing trend on fab of people who resent discussion, even if it's just for the sake of discussion. In notice this whenever someone asks if a particular label should apply to them and the first few responses will inevitably be "why do labels matter?"
Criticising someone's viewpoint and way of putting something across is not resenting discussion. It is itself a discussion. If a person is saying something which is worthy of criticism then they ought to be criticised. Then they have the opportunity to respond and a good grown up discussion can take place.
The idea that responses must only be along preset lines is damaging and limiting and does more to suppress discussion than anything else."
Well often the discussion never gets going because people are too busy criticising the question rather than any viewpoint! |
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"A hint.
It's not a news story.
Read the op on the link I posted and marvel at the patronising tone and the tone of the responses then read the op for this thread and marvel at the responses to that and how changing the sex changes the way people respond.
There seems to be an increasing trend on fab of people who resent discussion, even if it's just for the sake of discussion. In notice this whenever someone asks if a particular label should apply to them and the first few responses will inevitably be "why do labels matter?"
Criticising someone's viewpoint and way of putting something across is not resenting discussion. It is itself a discussion. If a person is saying something which is worthy of criticism then they ought to be criticised. Then they have the opportunity to respond and a good grown up discussion can take place.
The idea that responses must only be along preset lines is damaging and limiting and does more to suppress discussion than anything else.
Well often the discussion never gets going because people are too busy criticising the question rather than any viewpoint! "
That's just how it goes sometimes. If you talk about the viewpoint then that discussion will happen too.
It may be frustrating and I agree with you that it is, but what you are doing is, in the guise of not stifling discussion and free speech, actually trying to limit what people say and talk about. Which is stifling discussion and free speech. |
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"A hint.
It's not a news story.
Read the op on the link I posted and marvel at the patronising tone and the tone of the responses then read the op for this thread and marvel at the responses to that and how changing the sex changes the way people respond.
There seems to be an increasing trend on fab of people who resent discussion, even if it's just for the sake of discussion. In notice this whenever someone asks if a particular label should apply to them and the first few responses will inevitably be "why do labels matter?"
Criticising someone's viewpoint and way of putting something across is not resenting discussion. It is itself a discussion. If a person is saying something which is worthy of criticism then they ought to be criticised. Then they have the opportunity to respond and a good grown up discussion can take place.
The idea that responses must only be along preset lines is damaging and limiting and does more to suppress discussion than anything else.
Well often the discussion never gets going because people are too busy criticising the question rather than any viewpoint!
That's just how it goes sometimes. If you talk about the viewpoint then that discussion will happen too.
It may be frustrating and I agree with you that it is, but what you are doing is, in the guise of not stifling discussion and free speech, actually trying to limit what people say and talk about. Which is stifling discussion and free speech."
Well there are debates that have moderators and those that don't. It's semantics whether you think a moderators job is to keep things on track or stifle free speech. Anyway, thats all i have to say on that rabbit hole and im not a moderator anyway.
I've already presented facts on why men aren't likely to be nanny's, aren't like to want to be them and aren't likley to get hired if they do.
So it's fine for the men that want to do it and can get hired, but i dont see it ever becoming an occupation that will have anything close to gender balance. |
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"A hint.
It's not a news story.
Read the op on the link I posted and marvel at the patronising tone and the tone of the responses then read the op for this thread and marvel at the responses to that and how changing the sex changes the way people respond.
There seems to be an increasing trend on fab of people who resent discussion, even if it's just for the sake of discussion. In notice this whenever someone asks if a particular label should apply to them and the first few responses will inevitably be "why do labels matter?"
Criticising someone's viewpoint and way of putting something across is not resenting discussion. It is itself a discussion. If a person is saying something which is worthy of criticism then they ought to be criticised. Then they have the opportunity to respond and a good grown up discussion can take place.
The idea that responses must only be along preset lines is damaging and limiting and does more to suppress discussion than anything else.
Well often the discussion never gets going because people are too busy criticising the question rather than any viewpoint!
That's just how it goes sometimes. If you talk about the viewpoint then that discussion will happen too.
It may be frustrating and I agree with you that it is, but what you are doing is, in the guise of not stifling discussion and free speech, actually trying to limit what people say and talk about. Which is stifling discussion and free speech.
Well there are debates that have moderators and those that don't. It's semantics whether you think a moderators job is to keep things on track or stifle free speech. Anyway, thats all i have to say on that rabbit hole and im not a moderator anyway.
I've already presented facts on why men aren't likely to be nanny's, aren't like to want to be them and aren't likley to get hired if they do.
So it's fine for the men that want to do it and can get hired, but i dont see it ever becoming an occupation that will have anything close to gender balance. "
If you take part in a moderated discussion then you are agreeing to be subject to the rules of that discussion and the actions of the appointed moderator.
However that doesn't mean that other participants are at liberty to say what is and what is not suitable.
It comes back to the adage; "I am all for free speech unless it offends me, then I will no platform it."
One of the worst developments in public discourse in the past 50 years. The inability to stand up and argue with people who offend you. Instead we ban those people from speaking.
It may seem "safe" in the short term but in the long term it is far far more dangerous. |
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"A hint.
It's not a news story.
Read the op on the link I posted and marvel at the patronising tone and the tone of the responses then read the op for this thread and marvel at the responses to that and how changing the sex changes the way people respond.
There seems to be an increasing trend on fab of people who resent discussion, even if it's just for the sake of discussion. In notice this whenever someone asks if a particular label should apply to them and the first few responses will inevitably be "why do labels matter?" "
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