FabSwingers.com > Forums > The Lounge > If you're a vegan and..
If you're a vegan and..
Jump to: Newest in thread
 |
By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum |
"Not if you feed them vegan cat food.
Which you can. As I just Googled it!  "
Still has blood in it. Cats don't have taurene in their blood so it needs to be added, and it has to come from meat. Feeding cats a totally vegan diet means a dead cat.
Dogs however will eat anything.
PS OP? Leave vegans alone. Jeez! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
I told you on the other thread about the vegan cat food website.
Why do you care so much anyway if someone isn't eating meat themselves but chooses to feed their pets differently.
There was no preaching from any veggies tonight just a load of anti's trying to disprove them.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Not if you feed them vegan cat food.
Which you can. As I just Googled it!
Still has blood in it. Cats don't have taurene in their blood so it needs to be added, and it has to come from meat. Feeding cats a totally vegan diet means a dead cat.
Dogs however will eat anything.
PS OP? Leave vegans alone. Jeez!"
Ooh well I just Googled again and you're right! So my apols to the OP, however I can't help but think that 'vegan cat food' is therefore a misnomer.
Although is feeding a cat it's natural diet being a hypocrite as the OP said? Where does the point of stopping being a vegan begin? Is it about the individual or everything that touches your life?
If you're vegan but your partner or kids aren't are you a hypocrite?
Gosh it's way too late for me to ponder over these things! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
|
"Not if you feed them vegan cat food.
Which you can. As I just Googled it! "
Nope, it still has blood in it and veterinarians and feline experts disagree. That is a corporate lie designed to sell a product. You don't trust the seller of the product to tell you it works, you trust science and science proves that cats that don't have meat are malnourished and DIE! There are numerous reports of people who fed their cats non-meat diets and the poor animals died. Google that!
No cats for vegans! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"I told you on the other thread about the vegan cat food website.
Why do you care so much anyway if someone isn't eating meat themselves but chooses to feed their pets differently.
There was no preaching from any veggies tonight just a load of anti's trying to disprove them.
"
Did your name always have two x's in it? If so then I have no idea why it's so noticeable to me at the moment. 
Anyway, I'm a veggie and feed my dogs meat on a regular basis. Oh well  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Not if you feed them vegan cat food.
Which you can. As I just Googled it!
Still has blood in it. Cats don't have taurene in their blood so it needs to be added, and it has to come from meat. Feeding cats a totally vegan diet means a dead cat.
Dogs however will eat anything.
PS OP? Leave vegans alone. Jeez!"
They use synthetic taurene.
However the website does recommend for certain breeds of cats to mix up their diet with meat.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum |
"If you're vegan but your partner or kids aren't are you a hypocrite?
Gosh it's way too late for me to ponder over these things! "
As long as they're not forcing anyone or anything to be a vegan against their will, I couldn't give the tiniest mouse fart what they eat. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"I told you on the other thread about the vegan cat food website.
Why do you care so much anyway if someone isn't eating meat themselves but chooses to feed their pets differently.
There was no preaching from any veggies tonight just a load of anti's trying to disprove them.
Did your name always have two x's in it? If so then I have no idea why it's so noticeable to me at the moment.
Anyway, I'm a veggie and feed my dogs meat on a regular basis. Oh well "
No it didn't always have xx I fancied a wee change |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"If you're vegan but your partner or kids aren't are you a hypocrite?
Gosh it's way too late for me to ponder over these things!
As long as they're not forcing anyone or anything to be a vegan against their will, I couldn't give the tiniest mouse fart what they eat."
 |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum |
"Not if you feed them vegan cat food.
Which you can. As I just Googled it!
Still has blood in it. Cats don't have taurene in their blood so it needs to be added, and it has to come from meat. Feeding cats a totally vegan diet means a dead cat.
Dogs however will eat anything.
PS OP? Leave vegans alone. Jeez!
They use synthetic taurene.
However the website does recommend for certain breeds of cats to mix up their diet with meat."
I wouldn't want to run the risk that one day my furry little shits would turn on me. So they get Go Cats finest. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
|
"Not if you feed them vegan cat food.
Which you can. As I just Googled it!
Still has blood in it. Cats don't have taurene in their blood so it needs to be added, and it has to come from meat. Feeding cats a totally vegan diet means a dead cat.
Dogs however will eat anything.
PS OP? Leave vegans alone. Jeez!
Ooh well I just Googled again and you're right! So my apols to the OP, however I can't help but think that 'vegan cat food' is therefore a misnomer.
Although is feeding a cat it's natural diet being a hypocrite as the OP said? Where does the point of stopping being a vegan begin? Is it about the individual or everything that touches your life?
If you're vegan but your partner or kids aren't are you a hypocrite?
Gosh it's way too late for me to ponder over these things! "
AHA! So you do agree with killing animals for food? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Not if you feed them vegan cat food.
Which you can. As I just Googled it!
Still has blood in it. Cats don't have taurene in their blood so it needs to be added, and it has to come from meat. Feeding cats a totally vegan diet means a dead cat.
Dogs however will eat anything.
PS OP? Leave vegans alone. Jeez!
Ooh well I just Googled again and you're right! So my apols to the OP, however I can't help but think that 'vegan cat food' is therefore a misnomer.
Although is feeding a cat it's natural diet being a hypocrite as the OP said? Where does the point of stopping being a vegan begin? Is it about the individual or everything that touches your life?
If you're vegan but your partner or kids aren't are you a hypocrite?
Gosh it's way too late for me to ponder over these things!
AHA! So you do agree with killing animals for food? "
I'm not a vegan my friend  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ild-1Woman
over a year ago
york |
Can I ask vegetarians and vegans a few questions but probably aimed more st vegans?
Do you wear leather
Do you use toothpaste
Do you take any firm of chemical contraception- not condoms
Would you accept medical intervention for major surgery? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *.1079Man
over a year ago
Lincolnshire |
"This thread has made me feel like having a nice juicy rare steak
Me too, and an extra one for my little cat buddy. "
That's good some people on here trying to feed their cats carrots.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
" Can I ask vegetarians and vegans a few questions but probably aimed more st vegans?
Do you wear leather
Do you use toothpaste
Do you take any firm of chemical contraception- not condoms
Would you accept medical intervention for major surgery? "
I'm a vegetarian - not vegan.
No.
Yes, but I get special toothpaste with no gelatin and such.
No.
Yes.
To be honest, my reasons for being a vegitarian are complex and I've recently been thinking of switching to eating ethical meat, in any case, so I may not be your target audience.
There are lots of reasons why someone would choose to be a vegan/vegitarian, so working out who is a hyprocrite and who isn't depends very much on why someone is such, not just that they are. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
|
" Can I ask vegetarians and vegans a few questions but probably aimed more st vegans?
Do you wear leather
Do you use toothpaste
Do you take any firm of chemical contraception- not condoms
Would you accept medical intervention for major surgery? "
Good questions! I hope they don't ride horses either because that's definitely forcing the animals to do work against their will. Definitely can't breed the horses either because that's violating them.
I also hope they don't have dogs because that's breeding dogs which means they are violating them too!  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
" Can I ask vegetarians and vegans a few questions but probably aimed more st vegans?
Do you wear leather
Do you use toothpaste
Do you take any firm of chemical contraception- not condoms
Would you accept medical intervention for major surgery?
I'm a vegetarian - not vegan.
No.
Yes, but I get special toothpaste with no gelatin and such.
No.
Yes.
To be honest, my reasons for being a vegitarian are complex and I've recently been thinking of switching to eating ethical meat, in any case, so I may not be your target audience.
There are lots of reasons why someone would choose to be a vegan/vegitarian, so working out who is a hyprocrite and who isn't depends very much on why someone is such, not just that they are. "
Vegitarians are the new vegetarians, or my spelling is shit. Whatever. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
|
Think about it! If you saw a lion attacking a human to eat them, you would try to save the human. But if you saw a lion attacking a zebra or buffalo you claim it's nature and allow the lion to eat it. It's hypocrisy! If animals deserve the same rights as humans then we should be stopping the murder of innocent buffalo, gazelles, zebras etc. You should be campaigning to save these animals.
Why is it okay for a lion to eat a zebra? Why is your excuse "oh well, it's nature"??
Would you allow a human to be eaten under any circumstance? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Would you allow a human to be eaten under any circumstance? "
Yes, I would. You seem to be conflating your own values with the values of others, then judging hypocrisy on those grounds. Hmm.
Anyway, are you just arguing against vegetarianism/veganism in general or is this about pet ownership?
Maybe I need to go back and read the first thread. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *aroleBaskinWoman
over a year ago
somewhere down the rabbit hole, Aberdeen |
"Think about it! If you saw a lion attacking a human to eat them, you would try to save the human. But if you saw a lion attacking a zebra or buffalo you claim it's nature and allow the lion to eat it. It's hypocrisy! If animals deserve the same rights as humans then we should be stopping the murder of innocent buffalo, gazelles, zebras etc. You should be campaigning to save these animals.
Why is it okay for a lion to eat a zebra? Why is your excuse "oh well, it's nature"??
Would you allow a human to be eaten under any circumstance? "
Who are you directing these questions to? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"All you vegetarian don't eat meat because of animal cruelty and then you go and eat all the poor animals food. Very cruel."
My vegan boss would slap you if she heard you say that. The lamest reason ever. I used it in the past. But I sat down and had a real conversation with a vegetarian, a vegan and plant based consumer. Changed my view on alot of things. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
|
"Think about it! If you saw a lion attacking a human to eat them, you would try to save the human. But if you saw a lion attacking a zebra or buffalo you claim it's nature and allow the lion to eat it. It's hypocrisy! If animals deserve the same rights as humans then we should be stopping the murder of innocent buffalo, gazelles, zebras etc. You should be campaigning to save these animals.
Why is it okay for a lion to eat a zebra? Why is your excuse "oh well, it's nature"??
Would you allow a human to be eaten under any circumstance?
Who are you directing these questions to?"
To vegans! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *aroleBaskinWoman
over a year ago
somewhere down the rabbit hole, Aberdeen |
"Think about it! If you saw a lion attacking a human to eat them, you would try to save the human. But if you saw a lion attacking a zebra or buffalo you claim it's nature and allow the lion to eat it. It's hypocrisy! If animals deserve the same rights as humans then we should be stopping the murder of innocent buffalo, gazelles, zebras etc. You should be campaigning to save these animals.
Why is it okay for a lion to eat a zebra? Why is your excuse "oh well, it's nature"??
Would you allow a human to be eaten under any circumstance?
Who are you directing these questions to?
To vegans! "
Ah. Thanks for clearing that up |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
OP - Strange thing to post? I can see your reasoning, but what if your a vegan on health grounds?
Secondly lots of people have controversal ways of thinking about things. I bet quite a few vegetarians buy leather goods, such as shoes - Which I view as nonsensical, but they have different views.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
|
"OP - Strange thing to post? I can see your reasoning, but what if your a vegan on health grounds?
Secondly lots of people have controversal ways of thinking about things. I bet quite a few vegetarians buy leather goods, such as shoes - Which I view as nonsensical, but they have different views."
Vegans on health grounds are excluded from my intended audience. It's those who take a moral position against Non-vegans and believe they are better for not eating meat. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Not true, feeding an animal food that will cause it to get ill is animal cruelty which is against veganism. Cats are born carnivores and need meat to survive.
Stop trying to attack people who follow their own choices in life and just get on with living yours ffs.
H |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"All you vegetarian don't eat meat because of animal cruelty and then you go and eat all the poor animals food. Very cruel."
You know we can just grow more food right? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
|
"Not true, feeding an animal food that will cause it to get ill is animal cruelty which is against veganism. Cats are born carnivores and need meat to survive."
Exactly, and if you're feeding them that meat then you do support killing animals for food - catfood in this case! It's hypocrisy!
If we didn't kill animals for food then cats would starve because they rely on us to feed them. If you feed cats then you support killing animals for food.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"If you're a vegan and you own or feed a cat then you're a hypocrite!"
Firstly, you are assuming they are vegan as they believe that eating meat is wrong. If we are to comment on this assumption, then it is not hypocritical to feed a cat meat. A hypocrite is someone that believes one thing but contradicts it. So, with this in mind, they believe if they were to eat meat then this would be wrong as they are able to provide nutrition to their body without using an animal product such as meat or milk. Therefore, feeding a cat a meat diet is not hypocritical as they are providing a cat with their necessary requirements without forcing their beliefs on it.
Secondly, to completely assume people are vegans due to only 'moral' reasons is ridiculous. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
But surely the difference is we have the choice to eat meat or not. Cats don't therefore denying cats the right diet is harmful to them. You could let them go out and kill their own food but that tends to piss off the neighbours and delicate individuals who think cats acting as cats is offensive.
Moral of the story..... You can't Fucking win |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Not true, feeding an animal food that will cause it to get ill is animal cruelty which is against veganism. Cats are born carnivores and need meat to survive.
Exactly, and if you're feeding them that meat then you do support killing animals for food - catfood in this case! It's hypocrisy!
If we didn't kill animals for food then cats would starve because they rely on us to feed them. If you feed cats then you support killing animals for food.
"
For OUR consumption, not animals whose diet relies on meat.
You really are flogging a dead horse 
I'm not vegan BTW. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
|
"If you're a vegan and you own or feed a cat then you're a hypocrite!
Firstly, you are assuming they are vegan as they believe that eating meat is wrong. If we are to comment on this assumption, then it is not hypocritical to feed a cat meat. A hypocrite is someone that believes one thing but contradicts it. So, with this in mind, they believe if they were to eat meat then this would be wrong as they are able to provide nutrition to their body without using an animal product such as meat or milk. Therefore, feeding a cat a meat diet is not hypocritical as they are providing a cat with their necessary requirements without forcing their beliefs on it.
Secondly, to completely assume people are vegans due to only 'moral' reasons is ridiculous."
You're missing the part that they KILL other animals to feed the cat and they rely upon non-vegans who do the killing and make the catfood. Do they go out and slaughter buffalo so that lions can eat? No! So why do they own cats and feed them? It's hypocrisy. Why is the cat's life worth more to them than the animal that is killed to feed it?
I clarified that my comment is only for vegans who take a moral stance against non-vegans, it's not directed towards people who don't eat meat for health or personal choice. Even I refrain from eating meat at times and I despise the behaviors of the meat industry. Much change is needed. But those who take a moral stance cannot be owners of cute little kittens. No kitties for vegans! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Not true, feeding an animal food that will cause it to get ill is animal cruelty which is against veganism. Cats are born carnivores and need meat to survive.
Exactly, and if you're feeding them that meat then you do support killing animals for food - catfood in this case! It's hypocrisy!
If we didn't kill animals for food then cats would starve because they rely on us to feed them. If you feed cats then you support killing animals for food.
For OUR consumption, not animals whose diet relies on meat.
You really are flogging a dead horse
I'm not vegan BTW. "
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"If you're a vegan and you own or feed a cat then you're a hypocrite!
Firstly, you are assuming they are vegan as they believe that eating meat is wrong. If we are to comment on this assumption, then it is not hypocritical to feed a cat meat. A hypocrite is someone that believes one thing but contradicts it. So, with this in mind, they believe if they were to eat meat then this would be wrong as they are able to provide nutrition to their body without using an animal product such as meat or milk. Therefore, feeding a cat a meat diet is not hypocritical as they are providing a cat with their necessary requirements without forcing their beliefs on it.
Secondly, to completely assume people are vegans due to only 'moral' reasons is ridiculous.
You're missing the part that they KILL other animals to feed the cat and they rely upon non-vegans who do the killing and make the catfood. Do they go out and slaughter buffalo so that lions can eat? No! So why do they own cats and feed them? It's hypocrisy. Why is the cat's life worth more to them than the animal that is killed to feed it?
I clarified that my comment is only for vegans who take a moral stance against non-vegans, it's not directed towards people who don't eat meat for health or personal choice. Even I refrain from eating meat at times and I despise the behaviors of the meat industry. Much change is needed. But those who take a moral stance cannot be owners of cute little kittens. No kitties for vegans! "
People can put lives before others and is perfectly natural. If you take on the responsibility of an animal you often grow to love that animal too. Also, if someone was to own a lion I'm sure they would also provide food for the lion. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *andVBCouple
over a year ago
Wrexham |
"Not true, feeding an animal food that will cause it to get ill is animal cruelty which is against veganism. Cats are born carnivores and need meat to survive.
Exactly, and if you're feeding them that meat then you do support killing animals for food - catfood in this case! It's hypocrisy!
If we didn't kill animals for food then cats would starve because they rely on us to feed them. If you feed cats then you support killing animals for food.
"
No, cats wouldn't starve. They'd continue eating mice, birds, other cats, the elderly and whatever else they've been eating for the last several thousand years. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
|
"But surely the difference is we have the choice to eat meat or not. Cats don't therefore denying cats the right diet is harmful to them. You could let them go out and kill their own food but that tends to piss off the neighbours and delicate individuals who think cats acting as cats is offensive.
Moral of the story..... You can't Fucking win "
If non-vegans didn't kill animals for food there would be nothing left over to make the catfood that hypocrite vegans purchase for their kitty cats.
So either you support killing animals for food or you support not feeding the cute little cats.
Why is the cat's life worth more than the animal that is killed to feed it?
Why is the survival of the cat more important? It's cruel to not feed kitty the nutrition she needs, but it's ok to kill another animal that also wants to have nurtrition and survive? It's hypocrisy. The moral vegan here is playing God and deciding which animals are fit to be killed for food and which deserve to eat them. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
I don't understand why people are so bothered by what others choose to do with their own lives (especially when those live are LITERALLY not hurting others). |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
|
"Not true, feeding an animal food that will cause it to get ill is animal cruelty which is against veganism. Cats are born carnivores and need meat to survive.
Exactly, and if you're feeding them that meat then you do support killing animals for food - catfood in this case! It's hypocrisy!
If we didn't kill animals for food then cats would starve because they rely on us to feed them. If you feed cats then you support killing animals for food.
No, cats wouldn't starve. They'd continue eating mice, birds, other cats, the elderly and whatever else they've been eating for the last several thousand years."
They've been with us for the last several thousand years too eating our meat too. But more interestingly, are you saying that moral vegans really have no excuse to support killing animals to feed cats since cats can feed themselves? I think you've just presented a very strong case that moral vegans should not be owning cats or feeding them. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"I think you've just presented a very strong case that moral vegans should not be owning cats or feeding them. "
Congratulations. What are you going to do with that information? Campaign for it to be enshrined in law?
Or are you just being an argumentative prat on the internet? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *andVBCouple
over a year ago
Wrexham |
"Not true, feeding an animal food that will cause it to get ill is animal cruelty which is against veganism. Cats are born carnivores and need meat to survive.
Exactly, and if you're feeding them that meat then you do support killing animals for food - catfood in this case! It's hypocrisy!
If we didn't kill animals for food then cats would starve because they rely on us to feed them. If you feed cats then you support killing animals for food.
No, cats wouldn't starve. They'd continue eating mice, birds, other cats, the elderly and whatever else they've been eating for the last several thousand years.
They've been with us for the last several thousand years too eating our meat too. But more interestingly, are you saying that moral vegans really have no excuse to support killing animals to feed cats since cats can feed themselves? I think you've just presented a very strong case that moral vegans should not be owning cats or feeding them. "
When you take on the responsibility of an animal (for whatever reason) you take on the responsibility of feeding that animal appropriately.
Feeding a carnivorous (or mostly carnivorous in the case of dogs) animal meat is morally and ethically justifiable to all but the most hardcore of vegans.
I fail to see what the point of all this is at all. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
|
"I don't understand why people are so bothered by what others choose to do with their own lives (especially when those live are LITERALLY not hurting others)."
I agree, that's why vegans need to stop trying to demonise people who eat meat. I'm sick of their hypocrisy and intolerance. They only cry 'live and let live' when they're on the backfoot. I couldn't care less if someone chooses to eat grass for the rest of their lives, just don't try to demonise me for not joining your cult.  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *aroleBaskinWoman
over a year ago
somewhere down the rabbit hole, Aberdeen |
"I don't understand why people are so bothered by what others choose to do with their own lives (especially when those live are LITERALLY not hurting others).
I agree, that's why vegans need to stop trying to demonise people who eat meat. I'm sick of their hypocrisy and intolerance. They only cry 'live and let live' when they're on the backfoot. I couldn't care less if someone chooses to eat grass for the rest of their lives, just don't try to demonise me for not joining your cult. "
Have you taken this up with the actual people who have personally demonised you? They may be able to help you. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *andVBCouple
over a year ago
Wrexham |
"I don't understand why people are so bothered by what others choose to do with their own lives (especially when those live are LITERALLY not hurting others).
I agree, that's why vegans need to stop trying to demonise people who eat meat. I'm sick of their hypocrisy and intolerance. They only cry 'live and let live' when they're on the backfoot. I couldn't care less if someone chooses to eat grass for the rest of their lives, just don't try to demonise me for not joining your cult. "
If you're talking about the "do vegans breastfeed" thread the other day then no-one was proselytising or suggesting they were better, at least as far as I could see. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"I don't understand why people are so bothered by what others choose to do with their own lives (especially when those live are LITERALLY not hurting others).
I agree, that's why vegans need to stop trying to demonise people who eat meat. I'm sick of their hypocrisy and intolerance. They only cry 'live and let live' when they're on the backfoot. I couldn't care less if someone chooses to eat grass for the rest of their lives, just don't try to demonise me for not joining your cult. "
Well, the difference is I suppose that people who eat meat *are* hurting others. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
|
"I think you've just presented a very strong case that moral vegans should not be owning cats or feeding them.
Congratulations. What are you going to do with that information? Campaign for it to be enshrined in law?
Or are you just being an argumentative prat on the internet?"
Now Now, you're arguing too.. let's remain diplomatic and adult about this.. no need for name-calling
I'm already acting on the information by simply pointing out the hypocrisy of moral-vegans and encouraging them to be more integral and self-aware of their motivations.
I do receive your congratulations as acknowledgement that the original statement holds water. Your use of hyperbole (enshrined in law) is, however irrelevant. I want vegans to enshrine it in their conscience when they go on their self-righteous self-aggrandising crusades. There would be no meat to feed cats if Non- vegans were not killing animals for food. Vegans don't even make the food for their cats, they rely on the people and the industry they condemn to do their dirty work so they can pretend their hands have no animal blood on them
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
|
"I don't understand why people are so bothered by what others choose to do with their own lives (especially when those live are LITERALLY not hurting others).
I agree, that's why vegans need to stop trying to demonise people who eat meat. I'm sick of their hypocrisy and intolerance. They only cry 'live and let live' when they're on the backfoot. I couldn't care less if someone chooses to eat grass for the rest of their lives, just don't try to demonise me for not joining your cult.
Well, the difference is I suppose that people who eat meat *are* hurting others. "
Really??? How so??? See this is exactly what I'm talking about. You support hurting animals to feed cats! So there's no difference. That's hypocrisy and denial. I think you have a cat! Do you have a cat? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Not true, feeding an animal food that will cause it to get ill is animal cruelty which is against veganism. Cats are born carnivores and need meat to survive.
Exactly, and if you're feeding them that meat then you do support killing animals for food - catfood in this case! It's hypocrisy!
If we didn't kill animals for food then cats would starve because they rely on us to feed them. If you feed cats then you support killing animals for food.
For OUR consumption, not animals whose diet relies on meat.
You really are flogging a dead horse
I'm not vegan BTW. "
Is the dead horse being disposed of ethically? If not send it to Belgium.... |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
|
"Veggy for many years now..
I dont like the texture of meat, pure and simple.
As for what others do or do not.....not really any of your concern OP...you have your beliefs, they have theirs.
"
It's my concern when they try to demonise me and eliminate my chosen options for nutrition! I wish moral-vegans would take your advice and stop harassing non-vegans.
You don't like meat.
You shouldn't feel the need to justify your choice to be veggie. I certainly won't judge you for that and it's none of my business. My comment is directed towards bigots who make the claim that they are morally superior to non-vegans and hurl insults and condemnation. If you're not one of those people, I would struggle to understand why you would argue with me and not with them too equally. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Veggy for many years now..
I dont like the texture of meat, pure and simple.
As for what others do or do not.....not really any of your concern OP...you have your beliefs, they have theirs.
It's my concern when they try to demonise me and eliminate my chosen options for nutrition! I wish moral-vegans would take your advice and stop harassing non-vegans.
You don't like meat.
You shouldn't feel the need to justify your choice to be veggie. I certainly won't judge you for that and it's none of my business. My comment is directed towards bigots who make the claim that they are morally superior to non-vegans and hurl insults and condemnation. If you're not one of those people, I would struggle to understand why you would argue with me and not with them too equally. "
Judging the judgers?
Sounds like your a hypocrite OP |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
|
"My one and only question is WTF has it got to do with swinging  "
Hahaha, well vegan swingers won't swallow because it's an animal product. There! It's now relevant. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
|
"Veggy for many years now..
I dont like the texture of meat, pure and simple.
As for what others do or do not.....not really any of your concern OP...you have your beliefs, they have theirs.
It's my concern when they try to demonise me and eliminate my chosen options for nutrition! I wish moral-vegans would take your advice and stop harassing non-vegans.
You don't like meat.
You shouldn't feel the need to justify your choice to be veggie. I certainly won't judge you for that and it's none of my business. My comment is directed towards bigots who make the claim that they are morally superior to non-vegans and hurl insults and condemnation. If you're not one of those people, I would struggle to understand why you would argue with me and not with them too equally.
Judging the judgers?
Sounds like your a hypocrite OP"
You're*
And how so? Who did I judge? I said it's fine to be a vegan but it's not fine to demonise non-vegans.
Judging the judgers of judgers?
I guess you're a hypocrite too!
See how that works? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Veggy for many years now..
I dont like the texture of meat, pure and simple.
As for what others do or do not.....not really any of your concern OP...you have your beliefs, they have theirs.
It's my concern when they try to demonise me and eliminate my chosen options for nutrition! I wish moral-vegans would take your advice and stop harassing non-vegans.
You don't like meat.
You shouldn't feel the need to justify your choice to be veggie. I certainly won't judge you for that and it's none of my business. My comment is directed towards bigots who make the claim that they are morally superior to non-vegans and hurl insults and condemnation. If you're not one of those people, I would struggle to understand why you would argue with me and not with them too equally. "
Because its their choice.
As for arguing with you, im not...just dont understand why jump on a soapbox and push your beliefs down others throats
The original post calls people hypocritical for feeding cats meat and having a different diet themselves.
I am not a hypocrite i am someone who understands to deny my cat its natural diet would be even crueler to it.... It goes out, it hunts. Simple as |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"
Sounds like your a hypocrite OP
You're*
And how so? Who did I judge? I said it's fine to be a vegan but it's not fine to demonise non-vegans.
Judging the judgers of judgers?
I guess you're a hypocrite too!
See how that works? "
Yeah genius, that was my point. your a hypocrite, I'm a hypocrite everyone is a hypocrite.
And you did judge vegans you said if vegans brush their teeth they are hypocrites. That's a judgement.
And you also judged my english. (F U btw)
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
|
"
Sounds like your a hypocrite OP
You're*
And how so? Who did I judge? I said it's fine to be a vegan but it's not fine to demonise non-vegans.
Judging the judgers of judgers?
I guess you're a hypocrite too!
See how that works?
Yeah genius, that was my point. your a hypocrite, I'm a hypocrite everyone is a hypocrite.
And you did judge vegans you said if vegans brush their teeth they are hypocrites. That's a judgement.
And you also judged my english. (F U btw)
"
I challenge you to find where I said, "if vegans brush their teeth they are hypocrites". You're quoting someone else, not me.
What's up with you vegans hurling so much verbal abuse just because someone challenges your thinking? "F" me?  Sigh!
I didn't judge your English I simply corrected it. It clearly wasn't a typo since you just made the same mistake again. Just trying to be helpful that's all. None of us are perfect. Gosh
Lighten up vegans! You shouldn't have cats, it's not the end of the world.  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
|
"would you own a cat if you were a vegan tho????  "
That's a hard one! I love cats too much. All I can say is that I would be a hypocrite if I did. Here's the thing though, owning a cat nullifies your veganhood! If you own a cat, you're not a vegan! So one cancels out the other. A vegan cat-owner is an oxymoron. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"would you own a cat if you were a vegan tho????
That's a hard one! I love cats too much. All I can say is that I would be a hypocrite if I did. Here's the thing though, owning a cat nullifies your veganhood! If you own a cat, you're not a vegan! So one cancels out the other. A vegan cat-owner is an oxymoron. "
thread is a waste of time then hahah |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
|
"would you own a cat if you were a vegan tho????
That's a hard one! I love cats too much. All I can say is that I would be a hypocrite if I did. Here's the thing though, owning a cat nullifies your veganhood! If you own a cat, you're not a vegan! So one cancels out the other. A vegan cat-owner is an oxymoron.
thread is a waste of time then hahah "
Hahaha, it's definitely a waste of time as with most of these threads. People get more butthurt than masochists lol.
But the hypocrisy is in claiming that you're vegan while feeding a cat meat. Their Vegan status has been revoked and membership card
cancelled. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"I don't understand why people are so bothered by what others choose to do with their own lives (especially when those live are LITERALLY not hurting others).
I agree, that's why vegans need to stop trying to demonise people who eat meat. I'm sick of their hypocrisy and intolerance. They only cry 'live and let live' when they're on the backfoot. I couldn't care less if someone chooses to eat grass for the rest of their lives, just don't try to demonise me for not joining your cult. "
Is this a daily hassle for you then? Do you get bombarded by militant vegans all over the place? Or are you just constructing a straw-man argument because you saw a minority of militant vegans on the internet or something. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum |
"would you own a cat if you were a vegan tho????
That's a hard one! I love cats too much. All I can say is that I would be a hypocrite if I did. Here's the thing though, owning a cat nullifies your veganhood! If you own a cat, you're not a vegan! So one cancels out the other. A vegan cat-owner is an oxymoron. "
How does feeding another creature something that it needs to stay alive nullify a vegans choice to not eat animal products? That's like saying I can't call myself omnivorous because I keep a rabbit. Straw man mate. Move on. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"would you own a cat if you were a vegan tho????
That's a hard one! I love cats too much. All I can say is that I would be a hypocrite if I did. Here's the thing though, owning a cat nullifies your veganhood! If you own a cat, you're not a vegan! So one cancels out the other. A vegan cat-owner is an oxymoron.
How does feeding another creature something that it needs to stay alive nullify a vegans choice to not eat animal products? That's like saying I can't call myself omnivorous because I keep a rabbit. Straw man mate. Move on."
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
|
"would you own a cat if you were a vegan tho????
That's a hard one! I love cats too much. All I can say is that I would be a hypocrite if I did. Here's the thing though, owning a cat nullifies your veganhood! If you own a cat, you're not a vegan! So one cancels out the other. A vegan cat-owner is an oxymoron.
How does feeding another creature something that it needs to stay alive nullify a vegans choice to not eat animal products? That's like saying I can't call myself omnivorous because I keep a rabbit. Straw man mate. Move on."
".. choice to not eat animal products.."?? That's not all vegans do and you know it. Talk about strawmen! Moral-Vegans believe that animals should not be eaten or killed for food by humans! So kindly knock it off!
And I've already made it clear that I am only talking about moral-vegans who claim that it is wrong for humanity to eat animals. I'm NOT talking about vegans who simply choose not to eat meat. If you insist on using them instead to strengthen your position then it's you using strawmen, not me. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"I told you on the other thread about the vegan cat food website.
Why do you care so much anyway if someone isn't eating meat themselves but chooses to feed their pets differently.
There was no preaching from any veggies tonight just a load of anti's trying to disprove them.
"
my ex was a veggie but she ate meat lol |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"So can you still do oral if you're a vegan?"
As long as you're not raping the other person. Because if you're raping them then they don't consent, and consent is key. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *W ChapMan
over a year ago
Swindon |
"If you're a vegan and you own or feed a cat then you're a hypocrite!"
Never mind Vegans.....it's the fucking bastard shit leaving cats and or cat owners we should be commenting on.....
ps I couldn't work out where to put commas above so I've left them out for simplicity |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum |
"would you own a cat if you were a vegan tho????
That's a hard one! I love cats too much. All I can say is that I would be a hypocrite if I did. Here's the thing though, owning a cat nullifies your veganhood! If you own a cat, you're not a vegan! So one cancels out the other. A vegan cat-owner is an oxymoron.
How does feeding another creature something that it needs to stay alive nullify a vegans choice to not eat animal products? That's like saying I can't call myself omnivorous because I keep a rabbit. Straw man mate. Move on.
".. choice to not eat animal products.."?? That's not all vegans do and you know it. Talk about strawmen! Moral-Vegans believe that animals should not be eaten or killed for food by humans! So kindly knock it off!
And I've already made it clear that I am only talking about moral-vegans who claim that it is wrong for humanity to eat animals. I'm NOT talking about vegans who simply choose not to eat meat. If you insist on using them instead to strengthen your position then it's you using strawmen, not me. "
You have an axe to grind. Its not attractive. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
The worst part about being vegan isn't having to spend £££ on alternatives, it's not even eating veg for nearly every meal. It's non vegans preaching about whether we should be wearing leather, chewing chewing gum and calling us hypocrites for feeding pets/other people meat |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"So can you still do oral if you're a vegan?
Yes as long as you don't swallow hahaha "
I think it's a personal decision and having consensual semen exchange with another human is likely to be viewed as ethnically sound by manty vegan people. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
I'm not vegan though do eat a high vegan diet due to dairy, wheat and gluten allergies. My mother however has chosen to be vegan but she's a bad ass vegan as she won't buy leather or wool products. She doesn't use commercial products and makes her own soap powder, toothpaste, deodorants, cleaning products etc using products like baking soda and coconut oil etc. She won't use plastic unless she has to. Puts her veggies in brown paper bags rather than plastic bags and reuses where possible.she even checks all e numbers etc to ensure that they are vegan and won't "risk" it if it can come from either animal or plant just in case it's an animal product. She won't visit zoos etc |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"I'm not vegan though do eat a high vegan diet due to dairy, wheat and gluten allergies. My mother however has chosen to be vegan but she's a bad ass vegan as she won't buy leather or wool products. She doesn't use commercial products and makes her own soap powder, toothpaste, deodorants, cleaning products etc using products like baking soda and coconut oil etc. She won't use plastic unless she has to. Puts her veggies in brown paper bags rather than plastic bags and reuses where possible.she even checks all e numbers etc to ensure that they are vegan and won't "risk" it if it can come from either animal or plant just in case it's an animal product. She won't visit zoos etc"
She sounds FUN. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Sometimes I think she can be a bit ott as she won't eat chips out a takeaway if they've cooked meat in the oil etc but it's what she believes so each to there own lol |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *andVBCouple
over a year ago
Wrexham |
"Sometimes I think she can be a bit ott as she won't eat chips out a takeaway if they've cooked meat in the oil etc but it's what she believes so each to there own lol "
Other than the making her own cleaning products (there are plenty that neither contain animals products nor have been tested on animals) and the plastic thing everything else is fairly standard vegan stuff. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"If you're a vegan and you own or feed a cat then you're a hypocrite!"
That's just silly.... you could be vegan and cook steaks for your family, as long as you don't eat them. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
You usually get "vegans" happily wearing leather or suede jackets, gloves and shoes...or nubuck...thats hypocrisy too...and yet they happily preach to meat eaters... |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
» Add a new message to this topic
