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"No kiss. No sex. "Amended. No good kiss. No sex. | |||
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"Who kisses on swinging meets?? And if you don't why not?" Who wouldn't? | |||
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"No good kissing, no play and to the non kissers, each to there own but come on!! "Btw ..... you have the most veris iv ever seen on fabs | |||
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"No good kissing, no play and to the non kissers, each to there own but come on!!
Btw ..... you have the most veris iv ever seen on fabs "Thanks xx you should see the unseen  xx | |||
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"Do people really not kiss? " This!! | |||
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"Who kisses on swinging meets?? And if you don't why not?" kissing is the upper persuasion to a lower invasion  | |||
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"Do people really not kiss? This!!" some couples like to save kissing for themselves... yeah I know...weird lol | |||
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"If the kiss don't get my cock stirring then there ain't no cock "I'll take that as a compliment | |||
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"ALL the kisses or you don't see my boobs! " Big snogs, now get 'em out missus 
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"The kissing is the vital component to begin the build up to a hot and steamy session . We wouldn't meet someone who doesn't kiss ."
We've made the mistake of playing on the odd occasion with non kissers and ODD being the operative word! Strange feeling and rather boring, also in the back of your minds and boggling away is the reasoning behind the non kissing! Jealousy, fear of intimacy, crap at kissing which are not good starting points to a play.....
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"Not kissing seems to be the only preference that people feel able to question. I await the cold and robotic comments weve already had weird "Everyone is absolutely entitled to their own preferences, i think with this one its (for me anyway) something that would just occur naturally.. it would take a concerted effort not to. | |||
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"Fear not fabland, laceyandsam love to kiss.... mmmwwwaaahhhhh "We can dream .... | |||
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"Not kissing seems to be the only preference that people feel able to question. I await the cold and robotic comments weve already had weird "It's ridiculous that people should question it, sorry to hear you're getting flak from the fabidiots. If I was in a couple, I may have a different view -- I'm not, so I can only speak from where I'm at now -- either way I wouldn't presume to understand someone else's dynamic. Keep on being you, again apologies to hear the idiots are out in force. | |||
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"The kissing is the vital component to begin the build up to a hot and steamy session . We wouldn't meet someone who doesn't kiss .
We've made the mistake of playing on the odd occasion with non kissers and ODD being the operative word! Strange feeling and rather boring, also in the back of your minds and boggling away is the reasoning behind the non kissing! Jealousy, fear of intimacy, crap at kissing which are not good starting points to a play.....
Oh and never heard a reasonable explanation into why they don't kiss...... "It's an odd one for sure , and we've never heard a reason that makes sense either . One can't help but feel there may be insecurity on their part , or as you say they may be crap kissers or have halitosis ? | |||
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"The kissing is the vital component to begin the build up to a hot and steamy session . We wouldn't meet someone who doesn't kiss .
We've made the mistake of playing on the odd occasion with non kissers and ODD being the operative word! Strange feeling and rather boring, also in the back of your minds and boggling away is the reasoning behind the non kissing! Jealousy, fear of intimacy, crap at kissing which are not good starting points to a play.....
Oh and never heard a reasonable explanation into why they don't kiss...... "Because they don't want to? Quite a reasonable explanation in my mind - choice is the great thing about being on fab. Evidently it's not for you; there are things that I won't do on a meet and there is no need for me to provide an explanation that others perceive as being 'reasonable'. | |||
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"Fear not fabland, laceyandsam love to kiss.... mmmwwwaaahhhhh " | |||
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"ALL the kisses or you don't see my boobs! Big snogs, now get 'em out missus
Mmmmmwwwhhhaaaa "(.)(.) | |||
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"Not kissing seems to be the only preference that people feel able to question. I await the cold and robotic comments weve already had weird
It's ridiculous that people should question it, sorry to hear you're getting flak from the fabidiots. If I was in a couple, I may have a different view -- I'm not, so I can only speak from where I'm at now -- either way I wouldn't presume to understand someone else's dynamic. Keep on being you, again apologies to hear the idiots are out in force. "Thanks. We're not in the least bit bothered by it though. Thats why we never give a reason, it's nobody elses business. We wouldn't question the way anyone else plays unless they invited comment but it takes all sorts I guess. | |||
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"Not kissing seems to be the only preference that people feel able to question. I await the cold and robotic comments weve already had weird "You do make a good and valid point most people feel able to question kissing more than anything else We all have preferences e.g. I don't do anal because it hurts too much I don't receive watersports as I don't like the smell or taste I don't bareback because I take care of my sexual health... | |||
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"Not kissing seems to be the only preference that people feel able to question. I await the cold and robotic comments weve already had weird
It's ridiculous that people should question it, sorry to hear you're getting flak from the fabidiots. If I was in a couple, I may have a different view -- I'm not, so I can only speak from where I'm at now -- either way I wouldn't presume to understand someone else's dynamic. Keep on being you, again apologies to hear the idiots are out in force.
Thanks. We're not in the least bit bothered by it though. Thats why we never give a reason, it's nobody elses business. We wouldn't question the way anyone else plays unless they invited comment but it takes all sorts I guess. " | |||
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"The kissing is the vital component to begin the build up to a hot and steamy session . We wouldn't meet someone who doesn't kiss .
We've made the mistake of playing on the odd occasion with non kissers and ODD being the operative word! Strange feeling and rather boring, also in the back of your minds and boggling away is the reasoning behind the non kissing! Jealousy, fear of intimacy, crap at kissing which are not good starting points to a play.....
Oh and never heard a reasonable explanation into why they don't kiss...... "That's why we have on our profile that we dont kiss. It means people to whom its important can avoid us. We all play the way we enjoy most after all | |||
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If thats not there then it's a non runner for me. | |||
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"I wonder if you can taste judgemental in a kiss? That'd be when kissing does not turn into sex for me. " It's not judgemental we have just felt very uncomfortable playing with non kissers as per previous experiences and won't meet them now, we tried to get over it, perhaps it's us but the overall vibe from the plays has always strange to us, each to there own.... | |||
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"Kissing is the ultimate fore play , the build up, the excitement , the passion .....that leads to pure unadulterated erotic delights. If thats not there then it's a non runner for me. "This | |||
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"I wonder if you can taste judgemental in a kiss? That'd be when kissing does not turn into sex for me. It's not judgemental we have just felt very uncomfortable playing with non kissers as per previous experiences and won't meet them now, we tried to get over it, perhaps it's us but the overall vibe from the plays has always strange to us, each to there own...." "I've never heard a reasonable explanation" | |||
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"I wonder if you can taste judgemental in a kiss? That'd be when kissing does not turn into sex for me. " I'm not sure what this means ? Who is being judgemental ? | |||
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"I wonder if you can taste judgemental in a kiss? That'd be when kissing does not turn into sex for me. I'm not sure what this means ? Who is being judgemental ?" I'm just making a comment | |||
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Surely a kiss is what sparks the passion, and passion fuels the sex! | |||
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"Kissing is important to me - without it I would fail to get aroused with another. That being typed, I can understand why some don't. " this. Kissing is so important to me. I do understand why some couples keep it a sacred thing just for them though. I couldn't swing with someone I love,I admire those who do, however if it ever happened seeing him kiss another woman with passion or feeling would break my heart. | |||
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"I wonder if you can taste judgemental in a kiss? That'd be when kissing does not turn into sex for me. It's not judgemental we have just felt very uncomfortable playing with non kissers as per previous experiences and won't meet them now, we tried to get over it, perhaps it's us but the overall vibe from the plays has always strange to us, each to there own.... "I've never heard a reasonable explanation" " Yep never heard a reasonable explanation which raises suspicion, swinging to us has always been about open and honest dialogue between all parties resulting in nicer plays and repeat meets, there are sexual activities we won't engage in and would always be happy to explain why, as per a previous post by us in this thread.... | |||
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"I wonder if you can taste judgemental in a kiss? That'd be when kissing does not turn into sex for me. It's not judgemental we have just felt very uncomfortable playing with non kissers as per previous experiences and won't meet them now, we tried to get over it, perhaps it's us but the overall vibe from the plays has always strange to us, each to there own.... "I've never heard a reasonable explanation" Yep never heard a reasonable explanation which raises suspicion, swinging to us has always been about open and honest dialogue between all parties resulting in nicer plays and repeat meets, there are sexual activities we won't engage in and would always be happy to explain why, as per a previous post by us in this thread.... "Your opinion is valid. It's yours. You judge others within your opinion though. Which you're entitled to do. But it is judgemental, now and that you're asking. My original comment wasn't directed at anyone other than those condemning another couple's choice because they post it. | |||
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"I wonder if you can taste judgemental in a kiss? That'd be when kissing does not turn into sex for me. It's not judgemental we have just felt very uncomfortable playing with non kissers as per previous experiences and won't meet them now, we tried to get over it, perhaps it's us but the overall vibe from the plays has always strange to us, each to there own.... "I've never heard a reasonable explanation" Yep never heard a reasonable explanation which raises suspicion, swinging to us has always been about open and honest dialogue between all parties resulting in nicer plays and repeat meets, there are sexual activities we won't engage in and would always be happy to explain why, as per a previous post by us in this thread....
Your opinion is valid. It's yours. You judge others within your opinion though. Which you're entitled to do. But it is judgemental, now and that you're asking.
My original comment wasn't directed at anyone other than those condemning another couple's choice because they post it. "*now that | |||
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"I wonder if you can taste judgemental in a kiss? That'd be when kissing does not turn into sex for me. It's not judgemental we have just felt very uncomfortable playing with non kissers as per previous experiences and won't meet them now, we tried to get over it, perhaps it's us but the overall vibe from the plays has always strange to us, each to there own.... "I've never heard a reasonable explanation" Yep never heard a reasonable explanation which raises suspicion, swinging to us has always been about open and honest dialogue between all parties resulting in nicer plays and repeat meets, there are sexual activities we won't engage in and would always be happy to explain why, as per a previous post by us in this thread....
Your opinion is valid. It's yours. You judge others within your opinion though. Which you're entitled to do. But it is judgemental, now and that you're asking.
My original comment wasn't directed at anyone other than those condemning another couple's choice because they post it. "In the words of right said Fred..... Don't talk just kiss ( but only if you want too ) | |||
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"I wonder if you can taste judgemental in a kiss? That'd be when kissing does not turn into sex for me. It's not judgemental we have just felt very uncomfortable playing with non kissers as per previous experiences and won't meet them now, we tried to get over it, perhaps it's us but the overall vibe from the plays has always strange to us, each to there own.... "I've never heard a reasonable explanation" Yep never heard a reasonable explanation which raises suspicion, swinging to us has always been about open and honest dialogue between all parties resulting in nicer plays and repeat meets, there are sexual activities we won't engage in and would always be happy to explain why, as per a previous post by us in this thread....
Your opinion is valid. It's yours. You judge others within your opinion though. Which you're entitled to do. But it is judgemental, now and that you're asking.
My original comment wasn't directed at anyone other than those condemning another couple's choice because they post it.
In the words of right said Fred.....
Don't talk just kiss ( but only if you want too )"Nah, I'm busy judging. | |||
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"I wonder if you can taste judgemental in a kiss? That'd be when kissing does not turn into sex for me. It's not judgemental we have just felt very uncomfortable playing with non kissers as per previous experiences and won't meet them now, we tried to get over it, perhaps it's us but the overall vibe from the plays has always strange to us, each to there own.... "I've never heard a reasonable explanation" Yep never heard a reasonable explanation which raises suspicion, swinging to us has always been about open and honest dialogue between all parties resulting in nicer plays and repeat meets, there are sexual activities we won't engage in and would always be happy to explain why, as per a previous post by us in this thread....
Your opinion is valid. It's yours. You judge others within your opinion though. Which you're entitled to do. But it is judgemental, now and that you're asking.
My original comment wasn't directed at anyone other than those condemning another couple's choice because they post it.
In the words of right said Fred.....
Don't talk just kiss ( but only if you want too )
Nah, I'm busy judging. "I'll just slobber on your cheek then | |||
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" In the words of right said Fred..... Don't talk just kiss ( but only if you want too )
Nah, I'm busy judging.
I'll just slobber on your cheek then " | |||
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"I wonder if you can taste judgemental in a kiss? That'd be when kissing does not turn into sex for me. It's not judgemental we have just felt very uncomfortable playing with non kissers as per previous experiences and won't meet them now, we tried to get over it, perhaps it's us but the overall vibe from the plays has always strange to us, each to there own.... "I've never heard a reasonable explanation" Yep never heard a reasonable explanation which raises suspicion, swinging to us has always been about open and honest dialogue between all parties resulting in nicer plays and repeat meets, there are sexual activities we won't engage in and would always be happy to explain why, as per a previous post by us in this thread.... "You're suspicious because some people choose not to kiss on meets and won't give a reason!? I choose not to have a guy dump his load all over my face. The reason for that is really personal and I keep it to myself. People aren't obliged to give reasons for things... | |||
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"ALL the kisses or you don't see my boobs! " Guess we HAVE to kiss then! | |||
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"ALL the kisses or you don't see my boobs! Guess we HAVE to kiss then! "As if it was even off the table! | |||
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"No kiss. No sex. "Nuff said | |||
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"I wonder if you can taste judgemental in a kiss? That'd be when kissing does not turn into sex for me. It's not judgemental we have just felt very uncomfortable playing with non kissers as per previous experiences and won't meet them now, we tried to get over it, perhaps it's us but the overall vibe from the plays has always strange to us, each to there own.... "I've never heard a reasonable explanation" Yep never heard a reasonable explanation which raises suspicion, swinging to us has always been about open and honest dialogue between all parties resulting in nicer plays and repeat meets, there are sexual activities we won't engage in and would always be happy to explain why, as per a previous post by us in this thread....
You're suspicious because some people choose not to kiss on meets and won't give a reason!?
I choose not to have a guy dump his load all over my face. The reason for that is really personal and I keep it to myself. People aren't obliged to give reasons for things...
"Correct they are not obliged, but in our experience whose that don't kiss have in the majority had jealousy issues which come out in the play and make us uncomfortable, it's that simple, it's not judgemental, it's our decision. The kissing threads appear very often in the forum and it seems to be an emotive subject, but let's cut the crap most of us know from experience the majority of couples that don't kiss others have jealousy issues or hang ups and do nothing to resolve it by using the "it's our choice, no one else's business" etc etc one day a non kissing couple may post a "non bullshit" reason for not kissing but we won't hold our breath...... If you don't want reasonable people to question why you don't kiss via the forum then don't post.... | |||
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"I wonder if you can taste judgemental in a kiss? That'd be when kissing does not turn into sex for me. It's not judgemental we have just felt very uncomfortable playing with non kissers as per previous experiences and won't meet them now, we tried to get over it, perhaps it's us but the overall vibe from the plays has always strange to us, each to there own.... "I've never heard a reasonable explanation" Yep never heard a reasonable explanation which raises suspicion, swinging to us has always been about open and honest dialogue between all parties resulting in nicer plays and repeat meets, there are sexual activities we won't engage in and would always be happy to explain why, as per a previous post by us in this thread....
You're suspicious because some people choose not to kiss on meets and won't give a reason!?
I choose not to have a guy dump his load all over my face. The reason for that is really personal and I keep it to myself. People aren't obliged to give reasons for things...
Correct they are not obliged, but in our experience whose that don't kiss have in the majority had jealousy issues which come out in the play and make us uncomfortable, it's that simple, it's not judgemental, it's our decision.
The kissing threads appear very often in the forum and it seems to be an emotive subject, but let's cut the crap most of us know from experience the majority of couples that don't kiss others have jealousy issues or hang ups and do nothing to resolve it by using the "it's our choice, no one else's business" etc etc one day a non kissing couple may post a "non bullshit" reason for not kissing but we won't hold our breath......
If you don't want reasonable people to question why you don't kiss via the forum then don't post...."There's a way of posting your valid discussion without making sweeping judgy negative generalisations though. I'd be more inclined to have a reasonable discussion if you were able to reflect on your own assumptive standpoint. | |||
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"Who kisses on swinging meets?? And if you don't why not?" I dont kiss other men as I genuinely don't enjoy it except in very rare occasions. It feels awkward and sets me off all jittery... Adore kissing with Mr though. Funny thing is.. can count on my fingers how many times ive even had to turn my head away to not kiss | |||
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"I wonder if you can taste judgemental in a kiss? That'd be when kissing does not turn into sex for me. It's not judgemental we have just felt very uncomfortable playing with non kissers as per previous experiences and won't meet them now, we tried to get over it, perhaps it's us but the overall vibe from the plays has always strange to us, each to there own.... "I've never heard a reasonable explanation" Yep never heard a reasonable explanation which raises suspicion, swinging to us has always been about open and honest dialogue between all parties resulting in nicer plays and repeat meets, there are sexual activities we won't engage in and would always be happy to explain why, as per a previous post by us in this thread....
You're suspicious because some people choose not to kiss on meets and won't give a reason!?
I choose not to have a guy dump his load all over my face. The reason for that is really personal and I keep it to myself. People aren't obliged to give reasons for things...
Correct they are not obliged, but in our experience whose that don't kiss have in the majority had jealousy issues which come out in the play and make us uncomfortable, it's that simple, it's not judgemental, it's our decision.
The kissing threads appear very often in the forum and it seems to be an emotive subject, but let's cut the crap most of us know from experience the majority of couples that don't kiss others have jealousy issues or hang ups and do nothing to resolve it by using the "it's our choice, no one else's business" etc etc one day a non kissing couple may post a "non bullshit" reason for not kissing but we won't hold our breath......
If you don't want reasonable people to question why you don't kiss via the forum then don't post...."Ouch! We still don't feel the need to explain our preference. | |||
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"Kissing is a genuinely fair guide to how sex will go.... lovely, intimate kisses = good sex. Kiss like a washing machine, then the sex will probably be a bit shit, too "I agree. Great description. X | |||
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I am not a definite no to kissing and certainly have on meets but hold my hand up and say kissing another man feels very strange for me.... And nope I am not jealous, never been told I am a crap kisser or neither do I have bad breath.... It just feels wrong intimately..... I struggle to initiate a long kiss to my partner but adore kissing when we do .....My partner doesn't get this as he says it's fine to be fucked by a stranger but not kissed ...... And put like that I guess I am a bit weird..... And I have no
Issue with him kissing on meets .... It seems to work for us and always honest about it ....Oh and doubly weird soul I am... This just stands for men... Kissing women
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"This may be fab suicide but I feel I need to speak I am not a definite no to kissing and certainly have on meets but hold my hand up and say kissing another man feels very strange for me.... And nope I am not jealous, never been told I am a crap kisser or neither do I have bad breath.... It just feels wrong intimately..... I struggle to initiate a long kiss to my partner but adore kissing when we do .....My partner doesn't get this as he says it's fine to be fucked by a stranger but not kissed ...... And put like that I guess I am a bit weird..... And I have no
Issue with him kissing on meets .... It seems to work for us and always honest about it ....Oh and doubly weird soul I am... This just stands for men... Kissing women
Seems fine X "Not fab suicide at all, your choices and reasons (whether disclosed or not) should always be respected and not undermined, twisted, trivialised, or negated by others. Ever. | |||
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"This may be fab suicide but I feel I need to speak I am not a definite no to kissing and certainly have on meets but hold my hand up and say kissing another man feels very strange for me.... And nope I am not jealous, never been told I am a crap kisser or neither do I have bad breath.... It just feels wrong intimately..... I struggle to initiate a long kiss to my partner but adore kissing when we do .....My partner doesn't get this as he says it's fine to be fucked by a stranger but not kissed ...... And put like that I guess I am a bit weird..... And I have no
Issue with him kissing on meets .... It seems to work for us and always honest about it ....Oh and doubly weird soul I am... This just stands for men... Kissing women
Seems fine X "You sound like me. I adore seeing mr kiss other ladies...but just feel uncomfortable kissing other guys... i wish i could enjoy it.. and if its someone we have met a lot or get on with well. Then its less uncomfortable and I can playfully kiss a little. But prefer not to. | |||
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"This may be fab suicide but I feel I need to speak I am not a definite no to kissing and certainly have on meets but hold my hand up and say kissing another man feels very strange for me.... And nope I am not jealous, never been told I am a crap kisser or neither do I have bad breath.... It just feels wrong intimately..... I struggle to initiate a long kiss to my partner but adore kissing when we do .....My partner doesn't get this as he says it's fine to be fucked by a stranger but not kissed ...... And put like that I guess I am a bit weird..... And I have no
Issue with him kissing on meets .... It seems to work for us and always honest about it ....Oh and doubly weird soul I am... This just stands for men... Kissing women
Seems fine X "I totally understand that, I don't like touching holding hands as it feels too personal but yet I can have sex with that person with no concern at all. I have been told it's rather clinical  | |||
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"This may be fab suicide but I feel I need to speak I am not a definite no to kissing and certainly have on meets but hold my hand up and say kissing another man feels very strange for me.... And nope I am not jealous, never been told I am a crap kisser or neither do I have bad breath.... It just feels wrong intimately..... I struggle to initiate a long kiss to my partner but adore kissing when we do .....My partner doesn't get this as he says it's fine to be fucked by a stranger but not kissed ...... And put like that I guess I am a bit weird..... And I have no
Issue with him kissing on meets .... It seems to work for us and always honest about it ....Oh and doubly weird soul I am... This just stands for men... Kissing women
Seems fine X
You sound like me. I adore seeing mr kiss other ladies...but just feel uncomfortable kissing other guys... i wish i could enjoy it.. and if its someone we have met a lot or get on with well. Then its less uncomfortable and I can playfully kiss a little. But prefer not to.
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"This may be fab suicide but I feel I need to speak I am not a definite no to kissing and certainly have on meets but hold my hand up and say kissing another man feels very strange for me.... And nope I am not jealous, never been told I am a crap kisser or neither do I have bad breath.... It just feels wrong intimately..... I struggle to initiate a long kiss to my partner but adore kissing when we do .....My partner doesn't get this as he says it's fine to be fucked by a stranger but not kissed ...... And put like that I guess I am a bit weird..... And I have no
Issue with him kissing on meets .... It seems to work for us and always honest about it ....Oh and doubly weird soul I am... This just stands for men... Kissing women
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"I wonder if you can taste judgemental in a kiss? That'd be when kissing does not turn into sex for me. It's not judgemental we have just felt very uncomfortable playing with non kissers as per previous experiences and won't meet them now, we tried to get over it, perhaps it's us but the overall vibe from the plays has always strange to us, each to there own.... "I've never heard a reasonable explanation" Yep never heard a reasonable explanation which raises suspicion, swinging to us has always been about open and honest dialogue between all parties resulting in nicer plays and repeat meets, there are sexual activities we won't engage in and would always be happy to explain why, as per a previous post by us in this thread....
You're suspicious because some people choose not to kiss on meets and won't give a reason!?
I choose not to have a guy dump his load all over my face. The reason for that is really personal and I keep it to myself. People aren't obliged to give reasons for things...
Correct they are not obliged, but in our experience whose that don't kiss have in the majority had jealousy issues which come out in the play and make us uncomfortable, it's that simple, it's not judgemental, it's our decision.
The kissing threads appear very often in the forum and it seems to be an emotive subject, but let's cut the crap most of us know from experience the majority of couples that don't kiss others have jealousy issues or hang ups and do nothing to resolve it by using the "it's our choice, no one else's business" etc etc one day a non kissing couple may post a "non bullshit" reason for not kissing but we won't hold our breath......
If you don't want reasonable people to question why you don't kiss via the forum then don't post...."Ahh so because you think it's bullshit, it probably is. Good debate effort... | |||
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"Who kisses on swinging meets?? And if you don't why not? I dont kiss other men as I genuinely don't enjoy it except in very rare occasions. It feels awkward and sets me off all jittery... Adore kissing with Mr though. Funny thing is.. can count on my fingers how many times ive even had to turn my head away to not kiss " This ^ I don't like kissing other men and have rarely had to ask others not to kiss me. | |||
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"I wonder if you can taste judgemental in a kiss? That'd be when kissing does not turn into sex for me. It's not judgemental we have just felt very uncomfortable playing with non kissers as per previous experiences and won't meet them now, we tried to get over it, perhaps it's us but the overall vibe from the plays has always strange to us, each to there own.... "I've never heard a reasonable explanation" Yep never heard a reasonable explanation which raises suspicion, swinging to us has always been about open and honest dialogue between all parties resulting in nicer plays and repeat meets, there are sexual activities we won't engage in and would always be happy to explain why, as per a previous post by us in this thread....
You're suspicious because some people choose not to kiss on meets and won't give a reason!?
I choose not to have a guy dump his load all over my face. The reason for that is really personal and I keep it to myself. People aren't obliged to give reasons for things...
Correct they are not obliged, but in our experience whose that don't kiss have in the majority had jealousy issues which come out in the play and make us uncomfortable, it's that simple, it's not judgemental, it's our decision.
The kissing threads appear very often in the forum and it seems to be an emotive subject, but let's cut the crap most of us know from experience the majority of couples that don't kiss others have jealousy issues or hang ups and do nothing to resolve it by using the "it's our choice, no one else's business" etc etc one day a non kissing couple may post a "non bullshit" reason for not kissing but we won't hold our breath......
If you don't want reasonable people to question why you don't kiss via the forum then don't post...."i can't post why it makes me uncomfortable to kiss other men..but it has nothing to do with jealousy or insecurity.. I love watching Mr kiss.. he would love to see me kiss another guy passionately... | |||
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"I wonder if you can taste judgemental in a kiss? That'd be when kissing does not turn into sex for me. It's not judgemental we have just felt very uncomfortable playing with non kissers as per previous experiences and won't meet them now, we tried to get over it, perhaps it's us but the overall vibe from the plays has always strange to us, each to there own.... "I've never heard a reasonable explanation" Yep never heard a reasonable explanation which raises suspicion, swinging to us has always been about open and honest dialogue between all parties resulting in nicer plays and repeat meets, there are sexual activities we won't engage in and would always be happy to explain why, as per a previous post by us in this thread....
You're suspicious because some people choose not to kiss on meets and won't give a reason!?
I choose not to have a guy dump his load all over my face. The reason for that is really personal and I keep it to myself. People aren't obliged to give reasons for things...
Correct they are not obliged, but in our experience whose that don't kiss have in the majority had jealousy issues which come out in the play and make us uncomfortable, it's that simple, it's not judgemental, it's our decision.
The kissing threads appear very often in the forum and it seems to be an emotive subject, but let's cut the crap most of us know from experience the majority of couples that don't kiss others have jealousy issues or hang ups and do nothing to resolve it by using the "it's our choice, no one else's business" etc etc one day a non kissing couple may post a "non bullshit" reason for not kissing but we won't hold our breath......
If you don't want reasonable people to question why you don't kiss via the forum then don't post....
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"Who kisses on swinging meets?? And if you don't why not? I dont kiss other men as I genuinely don't enjoy it except in very rare occasions. It feels awkward and sets me off all jittery... Adore kissing with Mr though. Funny thing is.. can count on my fingers how many times ive even had to turn my head away to not kiss This ^ I don't like kissing other men and have rarely had to ask others not to kiss me." We all have out own things though don't we. Personally I'm not sure I could live life without kissing. But I suppose of you have a partner it's a different kettle of fish. Bothered something deeply personal about kissing and to share that? I can understand why people wouldn't | |||
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"Who kisses on swinging meets?? And if you don't why not? I dont kiss other men as I genuinely don't enjoy it except in very rare occasions. It feels awkward and sets me off all jittery... Adore kissing with Mr though. Funny thing is.. can count on my fingers how many times ive even had to turn my head away to not kiss This ^ I don't like kissing other men and have rarely had to ask others not to kiss me. We all have out own things though don't we. Personally I'm not sure I could live life without kissing. But I suppose of you have a partner it's a different kettle of fish. Bothered something deeply personal about kissing and to share that? I can understand why people wouldn't " till mr I didnt kiss full stop... so only the last 4 years of my life.. | |||
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"Who kisses on swinging meets?? And if you don't why not? I dont kiss other men as I genuinely don't enjoy it except in very rare occasions. It feels awkward and sets me off all jittery... Adore kissing with Mr though. Funny thing is.. can count on my fingers how many times ive even had to turn my head away to not kiss This ^ I don't like kissing other men and have rarely had to ask others not to kiss me. We all have out own things though don't we. Personally I'm not sure I could live life without kissing. But I suppose of you have a partner it's a different kettle of fish. Bothered something deeply personal about kissing and to share that? I can understand why people wouldn't till mr I didnt kiss full stop... so only the last 4 years of my life.. " Really? At all? I must say that's quite intriguing. | |||
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"Who kisses on swinging meets?? And if you don't why not? I dont kiss other men as I genuinely don't enjoy it except in very rare occasions. It feels awkward and sets me off all jittery... Adore kissing with Mr though. Funny thing is.. can count on my fingers how many times ive even had to turn my head away to not kiss This ^ I don't like kissing other men and have rarely had to ask others not to kiss me. We all have out own things though don't we. Personally I'm not sure I could live life without kissing. But I suppose of you have a partner it's a different kettle of fish. Bothered something deeply personal about kissing and to share that? I can understand why people wouldn't till mr I didnt kiss full stop... so only the last 4 years of my life.. Really? At all? I must say that's quite intriguing. " i have my reasons and guys rarely try to. I did group play only. Except with my partners and even my ex partner's i did not kiss. | |||
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"Who kisses on swinging meets?? And if you don't why not? I dont kiss other men as I genuinely don't enjoy it except in very rare occasions. It feels awkward and sets me off all jittery... Adore kissing with Mr though. Funny thing is.. can count on my fingers how many times ive even had to turn my head away to not kiss This ^ I don't like kissing other men and have rarely had to ask others not to kiss me. We all have out own things though don't we. Personally I'm not sure I could live life without kissing. But I suppose of you have a partner it's a different kettle of fish. Bothered something deeply personal about kissing and to share that? I can understand why people wouldn't till mr I didnt kiss full stop... so only the last 4 years of my life.. Really? At all? I must say that's quite intriguing. i have my reasons and guys rarely try to. I did group play only. Except with my partners and even my ex partner's i did not kiss." Not questioning your reasons, I just find it interesting . | |||
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" Not questioning your reasons, I just find it interesting . but why... if someone doesn't like anal. Or cum or water sports.. everyone accepts it as a preference but if you dont kiss your seen as a freak "Equating kissing with anal etc really is strange and really misses the point, after all we all kiss our Mum, anyone sensible can understand why some people don't like anal or cum or watersports..... | |||
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"Moot*" Of course stand corrected
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"Moot* Of course stand corrected
Deflection eh? Always works wonders on the forums...."Eh? | |||
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"Moot* Of course stand corrected
Deflection eh? Always works wonders on the forums....
Eh?"Most people have deflected the OP's question, would you not agree? He asked why people didn't kiss? Not seen a real answer here.... | |||
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"Moot* Of course stand corrected
Deflection eh? Always works wonders on the forums....
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"Moot* Of course stand corrected
Deflection eh? Always works wonders on the forums....
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Most people have deflected the OP's question, would you not agree? He asked why people didn't kiss? Not seen a real answer here....
That's alright, you've told everyone why they don't kiss "Expressed our opinion based on OUR EXPERIENCES that is all.... | |||
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"Moot* Of course stand corrected
Deflection eh? Always works wonders on the forums....
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Most people have deflected the OP's question, would you not agree? He asked why people didn't kiss? Not seen a real answer here....
That's alright, you've told everyone why they don't kiss
Expressed our opinion based on OUR EXPERIENCES that is all.... " | |||
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"Moot* Of course stand corrected
Deflection eh? Always works wonders on the forums....
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Most people have deflected the OP's question, would you not agree? He asked why people didn't kiss? Not seen a real answer here....
That's alright, you've told everyone why they don't kiss
Expressed our opinion based on OUR EXPERIENCES that is all.... "Fuck me this non-judgemental judgement is still ongoing? | |||
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"ALL the kisses or you don't see my boobs! Big snogs, now get 'em out missus
Mmmmmwwwhhhaaaa
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"Moot* Of course stand corrected
Deflection eh? Always works wonders on the forums....
Eh?
Most people have deflected the OP's question, would you not agree? He asked why people didn't kiss? Not seen a real answer here....
That's alright, you've told everyone why they don't kiss
Expressed our opinion based on OUR EXPERIENCES that is all....
Fuck me this non-judgemental judgement is still ongoing? "It is. It is. I'm very judgy. | |||
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"Moot* Of course stand corrected
Deflection eh? Always works wonders on the forums....
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Most people have deflected the OP's question, would you not agree? He asked why people didn't kiss? Not seen a real answer here...."Its surely everyone's right not to answer the question in the way expected by the person asking it. By saying we don't explain our reasons I "was" giving an anwer...just not the one that some might have expected. | |||
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"we don't drink or smoke which seems the norm hence kissing puts Amy off so limits our meet opportunities "Does it? Me (f) not liking to receive oral sex puts more people off than us not kissing. | |||
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"Moot* Of course stand corrected
Deflection eh? Always works wonders on the forums....
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Most people have deflected the OP's question, would you not agree? He asked why people didn't kiss? Not seen a real answer here....
Its surely everyone's right not to answer the question in the way expected by the person asking it. By saying we don't explain our reasons I "was" giving an anwer...just not the one that some might have expected.
"By that logic why enter an adult debate at all if all you do is deflect the question? Oh blimey why do we bother? We wouldn't get a straight answer anyway | |||
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Deflection eh? Always works wonders on the forums....
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Most people have deflected the OP's question, would you not agree? He asked why people didn't kiss? Not seen a real answer here....
Its surely everyone's right not to answer the question in the way expected by the person asking it. By saying we don't explain our reasons I "was" giving an anwer...just not the one that some might have expected.
By that logic why enter an adult debate at all if all you do is deflect the question? Oh blimey why do we bother? We wouldn't get a straight answer anyway "Here is my straight answer. I entered this adult debate because I am able to do so on an open forum. I explained why I answered the op as I did and you believe I am deflecting which is your prerogative. I'm not but I think we're probably best leaving it here. | |||
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Deflection eh? Always works wonders on the forums....
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Most people have deflected the OP's question, would you not agree? He asked why people didn't kiss? Not seen a real answer here....
Its surely everyone's right not to answer the question in the way expected by the person asking it. By saying we don't explain our reasons I "was" giving an anwer...just not the one that some might have expected.
By that logic why enter an adult debate at all if all you do is deflect the question? Oh blimey why do we bother? We wouldn't get a straight answer anyway "Your level of eyeball rolling and insistence that people do things the way you want (i.e. answer the thread this way/that way) suggests to me that you'd not accept someone else's reason should they want to proffer it anyway. You'd write it off as whatever reason *you've* decided and decide that they're lying. Your personal butt hurt, judgemental and patronising stance is really bizarre. | |||
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"Moot* Of course stand corrected
Deflection eh? Always works wonders on the forums....
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Most people have deflected the OP's question, would you not agree? He asked why people didn't kiss? Not seen a real answer here....
Its surely everyone's right not to answer the question in the way expected by the person asking it. By saying we don't explain our reasons I "was" giving an anwer...just not the one that some might have expected.
By that logic why enter an adult debate at all if all you do is deflect the question? Oh blimey why do we bother? We wouldn't get a straight answer anyway
Your level of eyeball rolling and insistence that people do things the way you want (i.e. answer the thread this way/that way) suggests to me that you'd not accept someone else's reason should they want to proffer it anyway. You'd write it off as whatever reason *you've* decided and decide that they're lying. Your personal butt hurt, judgemental and patronising stance is really bizarre. "Not at all, just find it bizarre that again the OP's question has not been answered, we haven't decided that people are lying on this thread at all, at no time have we accused anyone who had given a reason on the thread as lying, just find it incredibly funny how people cannot give a straight answer, putting that to one side, we know people have lied to us with regards to why they don't kiss from personal experience whilst swinging, if would have been nice to actually hear some more reasons on why people don't kiss in the thread that is all, the eyeball rolling pertains to the accusations thrown at us and movement away from the OP's question We are not saying people should kiss, that is there choice, it would just be nice to hear some honest, adult and sensible reasons as to why people don't kiss so we had a better understanding of it Everyone has a right to swing how they want but when it has a negative impact on others that's not swinging and in our experience, non kissers have had a negative impact on the play and at times have left us feeling used and made things awkward the expression "oh you want me to suck your cock but I can't kiss you" springs to mind..... | |||
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Deflection eh? Always works wonders on the forums....
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Most people have deflected the OP's question, would you not agree? He asked why people didn't kiss? Not seen a real answer here....
Its surely everyone's right not to answer the question in the way expected by the person asking it. By saying we don't explain our reasons I "was" giving an anwer...just not the one that some might have expected.
By that logic why enter an adult debate at all if all you do is deflect the question? Oh blimey why do we bother? We wouldn't get a straight answer anyway
Your level of eyeball rolling and insistence that people do things the way you want (i.e. answer the thread this way/that way) suggests to me that you'd not accept someone else's reason should they want to proffer it anyway. You'd write it off as whatever reason *you've* decided and decide that they're lying. Your personal butt hurt, judgemental and patronising stance is really bizarre.
Not at all, just find it bizarre that again the OP's question has not been answered, we haven't decided that people are lying on this thread at all, at no time have we accused anyone who had given a reason on the thread as lying, just find it incredibly funny how people cannot give a straight answer, putting that to one side, we know people have lied to us with regards to why they don't kiss from personal experience whilst swinging, if would have been nice to actually hear some more reasons on why people don't kiss in the thread that is all, the eyeball rolling pertains to the accusations thrown at us and movement away from the OP's question
We are not saying people should kiss, that is there choice, it would just be nice to hear some honest, adult and sensible reasons as to why people don't kiss so we had a better understanding of it
Everyone has a right to swing how they want but when it has a negative impact on others that's not swinging and in our experience, non kissers have had a negative impact on the play and at times have left us feeling used and made things awkward the expression "oh you want me to suck your cock but I can't kiss you" springs to mind....."I've not said you *have* said anyone is lying, just to clarify that. Not everyone wants to tell you their reason. This doesn't make their reason not honest, not adult and not sensible. It doesn't make their post less valid. It certainly doesn't make their post unwelcome. Some people have answered. Some haven't. You've your experiences. They've theirs. It's all cool. I find your inability to grasp why your posts raised some heckles funny. Funny weird. But I take your point, you wanted a debate, you wanted people to open up to you, they didn't. You got the kiss off | |||
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"Worth pointing out that I adore kissing in case you thought I was adverse to it...don't think I've ever not kissed when engaging in anything remotely sexual" OP's post got lost amongst the heated debates
OP sorry my post is way off topic. Nothing to do with kissing. I was just passing through and I felt the need to add what came into my mind when I read your thread.
Well you only started the thread, but then it escalated to much more then kissing.
Fab is full of surprises...
There is a huge change in the way 'regular forumites' post in threads. The transition has been going on for a while...
Newbies you won't have a clue, but people who lurke more then post will know some of the 'regular forumites' have flipped sides/opinions and the manner in which they engage other users was not how they used to...
Different groups and individuals go at each other over differences and are not able to simply let it go...
There is a reason why soo many people stay away from the forums. A few dominating personalities sometimes come across as bullies. Every now and again newbies dip their toes and the struggle begins...
The fight for survival...
Some newbies excel because they have equally strong personalities. Many do not survive because they get overwhelmed by the bullish posters... we never see them again!
For those who lurke and have not ever posted in forums yet please don't be put off. If you feel a bit intimidated by some of the heated exchanges that can go over the top...
Read the following:
This was in another thread. You will have a giggle at this. Amongst the chaos there was a witty reply... a golden nugget of hope...
Imagine it is exactly like in this thread... chaos/drama/politics... it is all kicking off...
Someone posts:
"I'm worried about anyone who only reads one book and then lives their life by it."
The reply was:
"Can we please leave Harry Potter fans out of the discussion?"
Pow have some of that!!
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"Kissing yes, it's vital (for me), best sort of foreplay. What I do find weird though, talking as a bi guy, are men who won't kiss. I'm talking about guys that'll suck your cock and/or want to stick thier tongue up your ass but get all precious about kissing. One classic response to my question about a kiss (from a guy who'd just asked if I'd piss in his face I should add) was, "ugh no that's disgusting..."" I know - preferences eh?  | |||
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"Who kisses on swinging meets?? And if you don't why not?" If I didn't kiss you. It probably indicates I didn't fancy you. If I dont fancy you, it means we are not going to get naked. If you do t kiss me back, I kind of think the same way about you fancying me. | |||
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Most people have deflected the OP's question, would you not agree? He asked why people didn't kiss? Not seen a real answer here....i have given it several times. "Nooooo, you haven't given the answer THEY want..... Apparently saying "it's my business not your business" is deflecting. | |||
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Nooooo, you haven't given the answer THEY want.....
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Nooooo, you haven't given the answer THEY want.....
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"Absolutely love kissing as part of a meet. Such a big turn on. Somehow seems a lot less fun without it. I know people have reasons, one guy who I met who wouldn't do it because "it's gay". Admittedly he then blew that excuse out of the water by sucking my cock..... " | |||
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" Not questioning your reasons, I just find it interesting . but why... if someone doesn't like anal. Or cum or water sports.. everyone accepts it as a preference but if you dont kiss your seen as a freak " | |||
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"Moot* Of course stand corrected
Deflection eh? Always works wonders on the forums....
Eh?
Most people have deflected the OP's question, would you not agree? He asked why people didn't kiss? Not seen a real answer here....i have given it several times.
Nooooo, you haven't given the answer THEY want.....
Apparently saying "it's my business not your business" is deflecting.
I tried my best amswering my reasons 'if' I didn't kiss. I hope that fits how I should have answered. "Probably not. But don't go changing. | |||
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"Moot* Of course stand corrected
Deflection eh? Always works wonders on the forums....
Eh?
Most people have deflected the OP's question, would you not agree? He asked why people didn't kiss? Not seen a real answer here....i have given it several times.
Nooooo, you haven't given the answer THEY want.....
Apparently saying "it's my business not your business" is deflecting.
My favourite part was when having a discussion about the subject was apparently disapproved by Forum Saviour! "I'm going to try and create an emoji for the forum police. It'll look something like a helmet..... | |||
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"Moot* Of course stand corrected
Deflection eh? Always works wonders on the forums....
Eh?
Most people have deflected the OP's question, would you not agree? He asked why people didn't kiss? Not seen a real answer here....i have given it several times.
Nooooo, you haven't given the answer THEY want.....
Apparently saying "it's my business not your business" is deflecting.
My favourite part was when having a discussion about the subject was apparently disapproved by Forum Saviour!
I'm going to try and create an emoji for the forum police.
It'll look something like a helmet....."Perfect | |||
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