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Should single guys pay to be on this site ?
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By *amboo OP Couple
over a year ago
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Does anyone think that charging single guys to be on this site might reduce the number of single male time wasters ?
Secondly, while we are happy to meet guys in their 20s,30s and 40s, it always seems to be that the 20 yr olds are the no shows and do not even have the manners to say they are not bothering to turn up. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Even on pay sites you get time wasters, of all groups. Singles couples etc. So no I don't think charging guys to use the site is a good idea. Fine tuning your 'bullshit' antennae may be a better option. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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In my experience on adultwork, there's even more time wasters. Local swinger's club forums, country specific websites are much much better.
In any case, we are paying for extra services e.g. silver/gold. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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What about time wasting cols and fems
I've had few fems chatted to for weeks then they vanish or block near a date planned for meet
Paying won't stop it... |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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I've had my time wasted by single men, single women, and couples. So by that method, we should all pay, yes?
This site is brill, and I am heartily glad that it looks like the Admin are quite happy to keep on providing it free and letting us choose whether we want to pay. |
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I'm not sure why making single men pay for the same site everyone else uses actually achieves anything.
A time-waster is a time-waster, five feckin quid isn't gonna cure him pmsl what a bizarre thing to say!  |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
To the OP......
If I was to suggest that I tried to have loads of meet from town x and had encountered loads of timewasters and therefore everyone from town x should have to pay to be on the site, how do you think it would go down?
Sounds a bit silly doesn't it
Maybe the real answer is maybe you should change the way you select people to encounter less timewasters |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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To the OP, have a heart for some of us single guys. We have already paid dearly in becoming single again. "
Thats not exclusive to men ya know! There's a reason I've stayed single for 5 years.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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To the OP, have a heart for some of us single guys. We have already paid dearly in becoming single again.
Thats not exclusive to men ya know! There's a reason I've stayed single for 5 years. "
also a reason for myself why i am single but why should i pay for it? |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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To the OP, have a heart for some of us single guys. We have already paid dearly in becoming single again.
Thats not exclusive to men ya know! There's a reason I've stayed single for 5 years. also a reason for myself why i am single but why should i pay for it?"
If you read upthread I am one of the people who think it should be free. Don't turn this into a female vs male thread, cos we all have our faults and fabness. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I love the idiots, they make the great guys so much easier to spot!
There are timewasters on other pay sites so i think it would be unfair to single out the guys like this when little would change. |
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By *j_markCouple
over a year ago
Forum Mod Totteridge/Whetstone |
If you don't want to meet single guys who don't pay you can block them from your filters page, so the site works just as you want:
http://www.fabswingers.com/my/filters
(To be fair, we've set that you can only block non-sitesupporters members if you're a site supporter yourself)
Admin x |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"If you don't want to meet single guys who don't pay you can block them from your filters page, so the site works just as you want:
http://www.fabswingers.com/my/filters
(To be fair, we've set that you can only block non-sitesupporters members if you're a site supporter yourself)
Admin x"
And just think, it only costs a fiver to get round that filter too! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"it seams the thread is turning out 2 be bash at us single guys"
You are wrong... it started as a bash! It is turning out to be one that is actually defending the single guys |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"it seams the thread is turning out 2 be bash at us single guys
You are wrong... it started as a bash! It is turning out to be one that is actually defending the single guys"
was meant to say
the op question was to have a go at us
anyways admin did answer there question |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think charging single guys would just make guys much more frustrated with this site. It can be difficult here for single guys, and making them pay to be ignored or picked out would just make guys more frustrated and angry with the site. If everyone had to pay then thats fair, but for those that get masses of attention ie couples and single ladies to not have to pay, and those that provide all the attention ie single guys to have to pay, is in many ways the opposite of how it should be 
All pay or no one pays |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"How is it that whatever the question, the answer is always to bleed the cash out of single guys?
Bash bash bash.
It's always the same.  "
Oooooo ok ok.....
so hold the mushy peas  |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"How is it that whatever the question, the answer is always to bleed the cash out of single guys?
Bash bash bash.
It's always the same. "
I know several sites where everyone gets charged.
Must admit though, not seeing why everyone thinks single guys are pests. i love 'em. More the merrier in my opinion.  |
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By *mumaWoman
over a year ago
Livingston |
"How is it that whatever the question, the answer is always to bleed the cash out of single guys?
Bash bash bash.
It's always the same.
Oooooo ok ok.....
so hold the mushy peas "
ffs Pie, you realise that mushy will want you to do watersports now!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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nooooooo single guys should not pay,they are always slated on here....ive never met a bad one yet...and i thank fab for being just that....absoulutely fabulous xx |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I beg your pardon lol
Ok so I'm now in a relationship but still playing single and have actually been on the swinging scene for nearly thirty years both as a single and couples
Can I ask how long you have been doing it?
There are time wasting couples as well as singles it's a fact of life
The slagging of single males has always got up my back even in my times a couple
I notice you don't mention single females lol
Well you wouldn't would you
In all my time on the scene and on swinging site fourms I have never read such a jumped up up ya own ass post as this
Congratulations on being the first to ever make me post like this
And good luck with life in swinging cause Ill tell you somthing you will need it with an attitude to people like you have |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I beg your pardon lol
Ok so I'm now in a relationship but still playing single and have actually been on the swinging scene for nearly thirty years both as a single and couples
Can I ask how long you have been doing it?
There are time wasting couples as well as singles it's a fact of life
The slagging of single males has always got up my back even in my times a couple
I notice you don't mention single females lol
Well you wouldn't would you
In all my time on the scene and on swinging site fourms I have never read such a jumped up up ya own ass post as this
Congratulations on being the first to ever make me post like this
And good luck with life in swinging cause Ill tell you somthing you will need it with an attitude to people like you have"
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"no i dont think they should pay, but on a slightly different note, why do single males have to pay more to get into clubs??"
because i suspect no one has the bottle to take em to court for obvious blatant discrimination...me included |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"no i dont think they should pay, but on a slightly different note, why do single males have to pay more to get into clubs??
because i suspect no one has the bottle to take em to court for obvious blatant discrimination...me included "
i was a lil bit shocked that a couple pay £10, single female is £5 and a single male is £20... bit out of order if you ask me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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So...because the OP is unable to sort the wheat from the chaff they want to penalise single men!
I only met single men, in four years didn't come across one timewaster!
Leave the single men alone: poor sods get bashed every day and not in a way they'd like! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The law on separate charging in clubs is changing this year it may be a good thing it may be a bad thing we will have to see xx "
If clubs are worried the place would be over run with single males then surely they'd limit numbers. just thought it was unfair to charge so much.
sorry for going off topic xxx |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Why do so many people always put the blame on single guys it's now starting to piss me off Try looking closer to home before you start accusing every single male on here of timewasting!!!!!!!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So...because the OP is unable to sort the wheat from the chaff they want to penalise single men!
I only met single men, in four years didn't come across one timewaster!
Leave the single men alone: poor sods get bashed every day and not in a way they'd like!"
^^ i agree ha. We get stereotyped just too easily these days. Judge people as individuals on here not as groups. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Why do so many people always put the blame on single guys it's now starting to piss me off Try looking closer to home before you start accusing every single male on here of timewasting!!!!!!!!! "
Yeah let's gang up on em all lol xx  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Absolutly amazing not only did this thread make me break with convention on my posting lol(see earlier post ) out of curiosity I look at the op profile and their looking for just states men
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot xx |
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"Why do so many people always put the blame on single guys it's now starting to piss me off Try looking closer to home before you start accusing every single male on here of timewasting!!!!!!!!!
Yeah let's gang up on em all lol xx "
yeah lets go on strike !!!! ..hmmm let me think about that for a sec |
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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago
Hull |
"Why do so many people always put the blame on single guys it's now starting to piss me off Try looking closer to home before you start accusing every single male on here of timewasting!!!!!!!!!
Yeah let's gang up on em all lol xx
yeah lets go on strike !!!! ..hmmm let me think about that for a sec "
Ehh?
After you!
I'll sit back, looking after all of those missing you! |
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By *mumaWoman
over a year ago
Livingston |
"Why do so many people always put the blame on single guys it's now starting to piss me off Try looking closer to home before you start accusing every single male on here of timewasting!!!!!!!!!
Yeah let's gang up on em all lol xx
yeah lets go on strike !!!! ..hmmm let me think about that for a sec "
would we notice the difference??? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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if single guys were to pay, you'd jst find more of them comein on as couples or single ladies to get round it jst as they do on other sites.
so you'd end up with more fakes to get through b4 being able to get a genuine meet. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Ive just become a couple...wheres my discount!!!!- although she cannot attend any meets,parties,or clubs...but she loves perving womens fanny pics and booby ones too...feel free to send to "us"
hehhe |
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"Ive just become a couple...wheres my discount!!!!- although she cannot attend any meets,parties,or clubs...but she loves perving womens fanny pics and booby ones too...feel free to send to "us"
hehhe"
Hello darling, I'm home |
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By *habsMan
over a year ago
Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex |
Okay,.. I can't do it. I tried breathing, meditation, taking myself to a dark corner for a word or two... but I can't bring myself to putting up a cheerful post.
What utter nonsensical diatribe... "every single guy should pay"?? What barmy hair brained idea did that take to come to fruition??
Lets check the ratio of single guys the average couple (who meet guys) are time-wasters.
Now check the ratio (for those that meet other couples) are time-wasters.
Do the same for single females.
By ratio (not number), the results are fairly the same... but you don't see anyone saying "yeah, charge couples!" or "charge single females", cauese you know what would happen - you'd get an almighty "Sod you!" followed by "Mass Block!" and ignored at socials (if ever invited).
As for "charge single guys" , oh yeah sure - cause in your mind "every single guy is a time-waster".
Here's the most important thign about the "every guy is a time-waster" argument being stupid: Has anyone ever contacted EVERY single guy?
1) How many are there?
2) How long did it take?
3) How many did you agree to meet?
4) Of the ones you met, how many will you meet again?
5) How many did you actually meet and hence how many (the others) were time-wasters?
6) Of the ones you'll meet again, how many will be happy you've lumped them in the same group of time-wasters (if the running of the site was up to you) you'd also charge for the sins of their lesser commital brethren?
Ive been swinging over 6 years, meeting couples and single females. Over time I've encountered time-wasters, or better put, "non-commitals" (they string you long like they wanna meet but really have no intention and I can smell it 100 miles away), yet your post suggests not only am I wrong as these people don't really exist, it suggests even if they did, they should not be punished by account-subscription: single men (including especially the ones that turn up) should,.. including me! (Yes, I'm taking this VERY personally!)
You really haven't thought this through have you?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"if single guys were to pay, you'd jst find more of them comein on as couples or single ladies to get round it jst as they do on other sites.
so you'd end up with more fakes to get through b4 being able to get a genuine meet."
your right ..... thay would come on as single woman and couples to get over the cost .... i think its good it free for everyone x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Okay,.. I can't do it. I tried breathing, meditation, taking myself to a dark corner for a word or two... but I can't bring myself to putting up a cheerful post.
What utter nonsensical diatribe... "every single guy should pay"?? What barmy hair brained idea did that take to come to fruition??
Lets check the ratio of single guys the average couple (who meet guys) are time-wasters.
Now check the ratio (for those that meet other couples) are time-wasters.
Do the same for single females.
By ratio (not number), the results are fairly the same... but you don't see anyone saying "yeah, charge couples!" or "charge single females", cauese you know what would happen - you'd get an almighty "Sod you!" followed by "Mass Block!" and ignored at socials (if ever invited).
As for "charge single guys" , oh yeah sure - cause in your mind "every single guy is a time-waster".
Here's the most important thign about the "every guy is a time-waster" argument being stupid: Has anyone ever contacted EVERY single guy?
1) How many are there?
2) How long did it take?
3) How many did you agree to meet?
4) Of the ones you met, how many will you meet again?
5) How many did you actually meet and hence how many (the others) were time-wasters?
6) Of the ones you'll meet again, how many will be happy you've lumped them in the same group of time-wasters (if the running of the site was up to you) you'd also charge for the sins of their lesser commital brethren?
Ive been swinging over 6 years, meeting couples and single females. Over time I've encountered time-wasters, or better put, "non-commitals" (they string you long like they wanna meet but really have no intention and I can smell it 100 miles away), yet your post suggests not only am I wrong as these people don't really exist, it suggests even if they did, they should not be punished by account-subscription: single men (including especially the ones that turn up) should,.. including me! (Yes, I'm taking this VERY personally!)
You really haven't thought this through have you??"
Hear hear
I thought the Tories were trying to charge me extra for something else for a moment |
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By *habsMan
over a year ago
Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex |
Might I add, one of the sites I'm on (no names) has a $180 a year (yes, one-eight-zero dollars annually!) membership, and guess what... full of time-wasters... especially the women!
Do you think I still use it? |
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"Okay,.. I can't do it. I tried breathing, meditation, taking myself to a dark corner for a word or two... but I can't bring myself to putting up a cheerful post.
What utter nonsensical diatribe... "every single guy should pay"?? What barmy hair brained idea did that take to come to fruition??
Lets check the ratio of single guys the average couple (who meet guys) are time-wasters.
Now check the ratio (for those that meet other couples) are time-wasters.
Do the same for single females.
By ratio (not number), the results are fairly the same... but you don't see anyone saying "yeah, charge couples!" or "charge single females", cauese you know what would happen - you'd get an almighty "Sod you!" followed by "Mass Block!" and ignored at socials (if ever invited).
As for "charge single guys" , oh yeah sure - cause in your mind "every single guy is a time-waster".
Here's the most important thign about the "every guy is a time-waster" argument being stupid: Has anyone ever contacted EVERY single guy?
1) How many are there?
2) How long did it take?
3) How many did you agree to meet?
4) Of the ones you met, how many will you meet again?
5) How many did you actually meet and hence how many (the others) were time-wasters?
6) Of the ones you'll meet again, how many will be happy you've lumped them in the same group of time-wasters (if the running of the site was up to you) you'd also charge for the sins of their lesser commital brethren?
Ive been swinging over 6 years, meeting couples and single females. Over time I've encountered time-wasters, or better put, "non-commitals" (they string you long like they wanna meet but really have no intention and I can smell it 100 miles away), yet your post suggests not only am I wrong as these people don't really exist, it suggests even if they did, they should not be punished by account-subscription: single men (including especially the ones that turn up) should,.. including me! (Yes, I'm taking this VERY personally!)
You really haven't thought this through have you??"
Well said that man |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Does anyone think that charging single guys to be on this site might reduce the number of single male time wasters ?
Secondly, while we are happy to meet guys in their 20s,30s and 40s, it always seems to be that the 20 yr olds are the no shows and do not even have the manners to say they are not bothering to turn up."
No, they are marginalised enough on here, how about we charge couples as there are two of them |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Does anyone think that charging single guys to be on this site might reduce the number of single male time wasters ?"
It's a 'no' from me! I've been on Fab for 3 years and I've never had my time wasted by a single guy.
Instead of expecting all single guys to pay, think about putting in more effort to YOUR selection process. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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OMG am so incensed by this thread...just leave the single guys alone,i bet you never complain if you get any,if there not yr thing..then stick to couples,we all have a right and a preference to be on here..after all swinging is for everyone and its their choice,if you dont like it..find another site that suits you. |
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By *acktilMan
over a year ago
Tewkesbury |
"Does anyone think that charging single guys to be on this site might reduce the number of single male time wasters ?
It's a 'no' from me! I've been on Fab for 3 years and I've never had my time wasted by a single guy.
Instead of expecting all single guys to pay, think about putting in more effort to YOUR selection process."
I have been on this site for over 2yrs now don't think I have ever wasted anyones time. I have had a few meets with couples cancelled by the male a pretty short notice. Were they fakes who knows? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Ive just become a couple...wheres my discount!!!!- although she cannot attend any meets,parties,or clubs...but she loves perving womens fanny pics and booby ones too...feel free to send to "us"
hehhe
Hello darling, I'm home "
Great, grab me a beer from the fridge...anyway...ive a hot meet tomorrow with a couple...u cant come...uve dishes to do...shame isnt it... |
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"Does anyone think that charging single guys to be on this site might reduce the number of single male time wasters ?
Secondly, while we are happy to meet guys in their 20s,30s and 40s, it always seems to be that the 20 yr olds are the no shows and do not even have the manners to say they are not bothering to turn up."
At your age, you really ought to have a little more common sense than to come out with such an inane statement.
I would have thought in your location swinging friends of the ages you seek willing to meet people your age, were thin on the ground anyway, without upseting them?
Having said that lets hope you get what you deserve.
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"Does anyone think that charging single guys to be on this site might reduce the number of single male time wasters ?
Secondly, while we are happy to meet guys in their 20s,30s and 40s, it always seems to be that the 20 yr olds are the no shows and do not even have the manners to say they are not bothering to turn up."
Why should single men pay cos u choose badly |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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NO why should they ive been let down by married guys more. All sites hv timewasters and being single,married or living with someone doesnt define a timewaster its the invdividual that does. |
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By *oddyWoman
over a year ago
between havant and chichester |
single guys should be free and also cheaper entry into clubs
some state if they attend before a cetain time its cheaper for entry then it goes up after that time
ive been let down by married guys than singles least they do let you know and not leave you waiting there
or as one did drive up and rush off fast only to text a few moments later with a cock n bull tale |
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By *UNCHBOXMan
over a year ago
folkestone |
Ive just left another site i was on for 6 years, because i found out by accident that i was paying £20 more a year than couples and single females.
I asked the site owner how he could justify me(having 5 stars and lots of feedback and being with them for 6 years) being charged more than a couple who were just on the site to advertise their club through their advert. He came back with some poor excuse about a higher fee putting off timewasters. So i told him out of principle i wouldnt renew. I can prehaps understand clubs charging more for single men with their overheads, but how can a website charge two different prices for the same product?. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Absolutely not and I doubt it would make any difference to timewasting.
Mistress x"
(failed to read previous statements)I disagree...just cos I wanna be different.. |
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By *habsMan
over a year ago
Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex |
"Ive just left another site i was on for 6 years, because i found out by accident that i was paying £20 more a year than couples and single females.
I asked the site owner how he could justify me(having 5 stars and lots of feedback and being with them for 6 years) being charged more than a couple who were just on the site to advertise their club through their advert. He came back with some poor excuse about a higher fee putting off timewasters. So i told him out of principle i wouldnt renew. I can prehaps understand clubs charging more for single men with their overheads, but how can a website charge two different prices for the same product?. "
Especially when the discounted account has 2 people that use it and hence can belogged on at the same time also?
I know the one. Guess what - when they have their social you wouldn't be invited cause the venue on the night is couples only How does that feel knowing you've financially subsidised that. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Ive just left another site i was on for 6 years, because i found out by accident that i was paying £20 more a year than couples and single females.
I asked the site owner how he could justify me(having 5 stars and lots of feedback and being with them for 6 years) being charged more than a couple who were just on the site to advertise their club through their advert. He came back with some poor excuse about a higher fee putting off timewasters. So i told him out of principle i wouldnt renew. I can prehaps understand clubs charging more for single men with their overheads, but how can a website charge two different prices for the same product?.
Especially when the discounted account has 2 people that use it and hence can belogged on at the same time also?
I know the one. Guess what - when they have their social you wouldn't be invited cause the venue on the night is couples only How does that feel knowing you've financially subsidised that."
I know the 1 as well before split with my husband that was 1 we were on .
A cpl weeks before any social there were a lot of cpls made up of single fems and single guys made up just for that reason so the guys could go the social which most of us thought was great as we couldnt understand why a single fem was allowed to go but not a single guy x |
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its not just Single guys that can be the timewasters... there have been cases where Couples and Singles fems have done the same.. its just that everyone only seems to bring the attention of guys doing it.
as some have said before by making it a pay site for Guys, it wont ween out the Timewasters.. they are part and parcel of any Swinging site.
there are people out there, that love the thought of swinging. the idea of meeting up with random people for NSA or taking part in a Couples fantasy. but when the day comes of them actually meeting.. they suddenly realise they can not go through with it. maybe through nerves, or the fact they are unalbe to (married etc).
i'm not sticking up for time wasters... as i beleive in being honest with people. and if your unsure, say it from the start.
if i was asked to pay membership just because of my status.. i would be cancelling my account.. as i think it would be unfair.
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By *habsMan
over a year ago
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"Ive just left another site i was on for 6 years, because i found out by accident that i was paying £20 more a year than couples and single females.
I asked the site owner how he could justify me(having 5 stars and lots of feedback and being with them for 6 years) being charged more than a couple who were just on the site to advertise their club through their advert. He came back with some poor excuse about a higher fee putting off timewasters. So i told him out of principle i wouldnt renew. I can prehaps understand clubs charging more for single men with their overheads, but how can a website charge two different prices for the same product?.
Especially when the discounted account has 2 people that use it and hence can belogged on at the same time also?
I know the one. Guess what - when they have their social you wouldn't be invited cause the venue on the night is couples only How does that feel knowing you've financially subsidised that.
I know the 1 as well before split with my husband that was 1 we were on .
A cpl weeks before any social there were a lot of cpls made up of single fems and single guys made up just for that reason so the guys could go the social which most of us thought was great as we couldnt understand why a single fem was allowed to go but not a single guy x"
Only problem with that, if you're a couple lookign for another couple (not singles, guys or girls) then you end up chattign to a random bunch of peopel findng out they're just "pairs" for the evening and you have to wonder who the legit (by account) couples are? slightly frustrating.
Added with the issue on the site very few (if any) will meet if you don't have verification - which you can only get from either meeting or having been to a social in the first place. so how do you go about getting someone to agree to go with you, an unverified member, to a social so you get past that hurdle? Talk about catch-22. |
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By *habsMan
over a year ago
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"its not just Single guys that can be the timewasters... there have been cases where Couples and Singles fems have done the same.. its just that everyone only seems to bring the attention of guys doing it.
as some have said before by making it a pay site for Guys, it wont ween out the Timewasters.. they are part and parcel of any Swinging site.
there are people out there, that love the thought of swinging. the idea of meeting up with random people for NSA or taking part in a Couples fantasy. but when the day comes of them actually meeting.. they suddenly realise they can not go through with it. maybe through nerves, or the fact they are unalbe to (married etc).
i'm not sticking up for time wasters... as i beleive in being honest with people. and if your unsure, say it from the start.
if i was asked to pay membership just because of my status.. i would be cancelling my account.. as i think it would be unfair.
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Absolutely. I saw a Christmas party once where the venue were charging couples £35 and single guys £70 (for entry). I asked why the difference and was told "there's going to be more food and music" to which I replied "So to cover costs you're saying single guys eat twice as much food as both members of the couple combined, or single guys enjoy music twice as much as couples?"
Their response: received a life ban from future events. |
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We have met some great single guys on this site,if it was a pay site for single males i doubt we would have met them so we as a couple would lose out aswell |
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By *UNCHBOXMan
over a year ago
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"Ive just left another site i was on for 6 years, because i found out by accident that i was paying £20 more a year than couples and single females.
I asked the site owner how he could justify me(having 5 stars and lots of feedback and being with them for 6 years) being charged more than a couple who were just on the site to advertise their club through their advert. He came back with some poor excuse about a higher fee putting off timewasters. So i told him out of principle i wouldnt renew. I can prehaps understand clubs charging more for single men with their overheads, but how can a website charge two different prices for the same product?.
Especially when the discounted account has 2 people that use it and hence can belogged on at the same time also?
I know the one. Guess what - when they have their social you wouldn't be invited cause the venue on the night is couples only How does that feel knowing you've financially subsidised that."
I started a thread asking why the prices were so much higher on the other site just before my membership ran out, but they deleted it when i reverted to basic membership. The keep the fact that guys who renew pay £20 more than couples and single females quiet, and i only found out because a couple i knew on there mentioned their renewal price. The thing that annoys me is you have clubs on their using a couple profile to advertise their club nights, paying less than i was. |
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By *ustpartyCouple
over a year ago
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"Loads of clubs charge singles male more
its which i wont go to them because of this"
Clubs quite often make their money from single guys as they are the biggest market. However the guys would not go if there was no women there, hence couples and single women get their entrance subsidized. On evenings where there are no single guys allowed, the couples subsidy is reduced.
Normal night clubs have been doing this for years. Guys pay and women get in for free / reduced rates.
In economic terms, single guys don't pay more. Couples and single females pay less.
Yes, it is not fair but if a business is to run successfully it must use a market forces economic model. |
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Why is it always the single male that gets the bashing. It is unfair to label everyone in the same catergory.
There is equally the same for single fems and couples.
Yes you will come across assholes and numptys block move on, lifes to short to worry about them.
To be honest have been on other sites and by far this is the best one. |
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Already been said a hundred times above, but NO, males or any group should not be charged for been on the site.
Even the pay sites get the timewasters, maybe even more so. People may be lead to beleive that if a user can be bothered to pay £xxx amount to join then they must be genuine. Wrong!
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"Why is it always the single male that gets the bashing. It is unfair to label everyone in the same catergory.
There is equally the same for single fems and couples.
Yes you will come across assholes and numptys block move on, lifes to short to worry about them.
To be honest have been on other sites and by far this is the best one."
my point exactly
they just want us single guys to pay for something that suits them.
op has not even paid.
not even photo verified, been on the site over a year an moan about single guys some thing strange there me thinks |
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"not even photo verified, been on the site over a year an moan about single guys some thing strange there me thinks"
In fairness, they are verified in person by three different peeps.... says as much if not more than a pic verification |
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"not even photo verified, been on the site over a year an moan about single guys some thing strange there me thinks
In fairness, they are verified in person by three different peeps.... says as much if not more than a pic verification"
maybe so dose not give them the right to say that single guys should pay for it. |
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"There will just be an increase in men pretending to be woman!!well caught 1 early in scotland room n reported it"
Begs the question 'How did you know it was a man'?
Was it the result of a meet gone wrong?
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"There will just be an increase in men pretending to be woman!!well caught 1 early in scotland room n reported it
Begs the question 'How did you know it was a man'?
Was it the result of a meet gone wrong?
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it was not a female that for sure |
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"There will just be an increase in men pretending to be woman!!well caught 1 early in scotland room n reported it
Begs the question 'How did you know it was a man'?
Was it the result of a meet gone wrong?
it was not a female that for sure"
You reprted someone on a hunch...and not with any form of proof?
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"Does anyone think that charging single guys to be on this site might reduce the number of single male time wasters ?
Secondly, while we are happy to meet guys in their 20s,30s and 40s, it always seems to be that the 20 yr olds are the no shows and do not even have the manners to say they are not bothering to turn up."
dont you get couples and women time wasters then? |
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"Does anyone think that charging single guys to be on this site might reduce the number of single male time wasters ?
Secondly, while we are happy to meet guys in their 20s,30s and 40s, it always seems to be that the 20 yr olds are the no shows and do not even have the manners to say they are not bothering to turn up.
dont you get couples and women time wasters then? "
lol yes you do |
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"Does anyone think that charging single guys to be on this site might reduce the number of single male time wasters ?
Secondly, while we are happy to meet guys in their 20s,30s and 40s, it always seems to be that the 20 yr olds are the no shows and do not even have the manners to say they are not bothering to turn up."
don't be daft, if you only want singles who pay then search for the silver and gold members only. Gold members! sniggers |
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Ok, i havent read any of the posts on this thread. But surely when someone joins fabswingers they know its a free site (optional silver and gold).
If they wanted to go on a site where guys paid then they should bloody well join a paid site. I know there are fantasists and idiots on lots of sites, regardless of whether they are free or not.
Why would you be happy to join a site then decide that you want the site policy to change.
If people dont like the fact that there are time wasters here then why dont they just bugger of else where and stop whinging |
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"Ok, i havent read any of the posts on this thread. But surely when someone joins fabswingers they know its a free site (optional silver and gold).
If they wanted to go on a site where guys paid then they should bloody well join a paid site. I know there are fantasists and idiots on lots of sites, regardless of whether they are free or not.
Why would you be happy to join a site then decide that you want the site policy to change.
If people dont like the fact that there are time wasters here then why dont they just bugger of else where and stop whinging"
Ya saved me typing it |
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"quite agree with _amboo about young guys not showing up for meets,i have had quite a few,all keen to meet me,then dont turn up "
having only just started seeing younger guys ie in their 20s have found them to be more polite and trust worthy than some guys a dam sight older . |
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"quite agree with _amboo about young guys not showing up for meets,i have had quite a few,all keen to meet me,then dont turn up
having only just started seeing younger guys ie in their 20s have found them to be more polite and trust worthy than some guys a dam sight older ."
When creating group fun, gb's, the more mature are straightforward in terms of confirming joining the event, the younger they are the more your hit with 20 questions and more often than not a "no-show", why because they are meet juggling, a theory. |
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"There will just be an increase in men pretending to be woman!!well caught 1 early in scotland room n reported it
Begs the question 'How did you know it was a man'?
Was it the result of a meet gone wrong?
it was not a female that for sure
You reprted someone on a hunch...and not with any form of proof?
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your not reading it properly. |
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"There will just be an increase in men pretending to be woman!!well caught 1 early in scotland room n reported it
Begs the question 'How did you know it was a man'?
Was it the result of a meet gone wrong?
it was not a female that for sure
You reprted someone on a hunch...and not with any form of proof?
your not reading it properly."
Sorry if this reads as if puting you on the spot, but you do that, then i look you up, all your veri's are via webcam or phone?
Yet judge a profile on instinct? A hunch? |
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"quite agree with _amboo about young guys not showing up for meets,i have had quite a few,all keen to meet me,then dont turn up
having only just started seeing younger guys ie in their 20s have found them to be more polite and trust worthy than some guys a dam sight older .
When creating group fun, gb's, the more mature are straightforward in terms of confirming joining the event, the younger they are the more your hit with 20 questions and more often than not a "no-show", why because they are meet juggling, a theory."
ah that maybe it as ive never meet for group or a gb just 1 to 1 and not had a problem x |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"quite agree with _amboo about young guys not showing up for meets,i have had quite a few,all keen to meet me,then dont turn up
having only just started seeing younger guys ie in their 20s have found them to be more polite and trust worthy than some guys a dam sight older .
When creating group fun, gb's, the more mature are straightforward in terms of confirming joining the event, the younger they are the more your hit with 20 questions and more often than not a "no-show", why because they are meet juggling, a theory."
This is currently happening to me! Trying to arrange a GB, getting lots of interest from guys old and young. GB gets closer, the younger guys start dropping out one by one. One guys excuse was that he had a party! The older guys are still there, happy to come.
I won't make anyone attend a GB with me that they are desperate to get out of, but I wish they'd think of the consequences. Not only did they take up a place that another, more reliable, guy could have had, but they make me feel like crap because they obviously never wanted to come in the first place!
This isn't a 'older vs younger' rant by the way - I have had older guys do the same thing at GBs. But younger guys do tend to double or triple book, and its a bit crap. |
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Some things just seem like a good idea at the time.... it is the same for men and women. In a moment of horny pant/panty twitching the fantasy seems a great idea... in the cold light of day when the brain kicks-in, the concerns start to pop-up.
I arranged a GB for my 40th... invited 12, got 9. Better turn out than I expected from past experience. The one thing I tried to find were guys who had been to GB's before and attending swinging clubs 'on their own' on a fairly regular basis. A few of the guys said they had but I was a bit dubious about if they really had.... guess which were the ones who didn't turn up?
I don't think age has much to do with it. It's about experience and knowing you enjoy something because you have already tried it and loved it.... rather than just thought about it.
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well again taking into the points of the original poster, its just a choice of who u are communicating with. I for one am very very tired of seeing profiles with "leaving this site, full of fakes and timewasters"-this is mainly from single fems and couples, single males ones are something like "does anyone really meet here???"
But you have to remember some of these people are new, havent been swinging for long...appear to be going for that "ideal" type(as in levels of attractiveness), maybe if people started trying to encompass the many varieties of people we actually have on the site they might find that the select amount that they have been let down by with are indeed hardly a reflection on what the scene is actually about.
The main element about swinging as part of the lifestyle choice is about having fun...but dont be surprised and complain when ur let down by a select few, when u have a narrower criteria for who might be a good meet.This is not me saying shag everyone even if you dont fancy them but perhaps be more open to the different types of people on here and of course people who actually care about the swingingscene as they tend not to be the ones who let others down and appreciate sacrifices some people make in order to be able to do something they enjoy. |
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Some of these single guys are lovely!!!
I'm just wondering how many more fake "couples" profiles would appear? 