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Terrorist named

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Terrorist named as a well known hate preacher. Is it time to curtail the activities of these people? Also live stream from French Arabic news stream praises the attack and says death to infidels.

I have no answers sadly

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By *tephanie19631TV/TS over a year ago

oxford

Even if this was not terrorist related (still to be confirmed) the likes of is will happily put there hands up

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

More stuff coming in all the time.

Be interesting to see what the Mayor has to say.

There is also a video out of the alleged terrorist complaining about Islamaphobia. I thought the point of a 'phobia' was that the concern/fear was irrational.

I think we need more tolerance. If this guy felt wanted or part of the community he would not have done this. Peace.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Appalling what has happened on westminster bridge. Listening to what happened. Shocking!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Abu Izzadeen aka Trevor Brooks so I imagine a lot of tweets about refugees and closing borders etc being deleted as we speak

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

if it is the person channel 4 news are saying it is.... that person would absolutely be known to the authorities....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How do you curtail the actions of those who are marginalised and largely underground as is?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'll name him - Effing tw*t.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

We need peace and tolerance at this time. No spreading of hate. Semi opaque flags on Facebook also.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"How do you curtail the actions of those who are marginalised and largely underground as is?"

Absolutely, they need love and understanding. Need to feel more part of this great country. If only he'd have felt more of the 'love' he would not have done this. Love trumps hate!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

London is full of nutjobs and weirdos always has been, banning things might make a few people feel better but will in all reality do very little.

Its just one of those things that we'll have to tough it out for awhile as the only real solutions are right wing radical ones and i threw my Nazi outfit to the charity shop last week so thats out!

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By *rightonCheekyMan over a year ago

Brighton

Absolutely shocking what's happened today. Equally shocking the Police won't respond to a great many crimes day to day.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It does look like him.

Guess we will find out in due course.

PTU xxx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Abu Izzadeen aka Trevor Brooks so I imagine a lot of tweets about refugees and closing borders etc being deleted as we speak "
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Oh Jesus the newly converted are just the worse i tell yer!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"if it is the person channel 4 news are saying it is.... that person would absolutely be known to the authorities....

I take he would have been identified by finger prints, any half planned attacker isn't going to bring along identity

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"if it is the person channel 4 news are saying it is.... that person would absolutely be known to the authorities....

I take he would have been identified by finger prints, any half planned attacker isn't going to bring along identity "

I but the do! They bring their passports........

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Absolutely shocking what's happened today. Equally shocking the Police won't respond to a great many crimes day to day. "

Yes that's right.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Not alot more you can do that the intelligence isn't already doing I wouldn't have thought?

Tighter border controls wouldnt have that much affect now as the proverbial Horse has already bolted.

The extremists are already among us and can be anyone.

The only thing we have at our disposal is intelligence and surveillance unfortunately.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"if it is the person channel 4 news are saying it is.... that person would absolutely be known to the authorities....

I take he would have been identified by finger prints, any half planned attacker isn't going to bring along identity "
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Are you kidding, their fucking nutjobs on route to run people over and knife some others for some outage done to "their people" by "our people"

They aint thinking this through, their crazy bellends

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If the reports are true it is this person he was already sent to prison for raising funds for a terrorist organisation in 2008.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

There are Arab based new streams in France celebrating this.

I won't rise to it. Love trumps hate!

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By *laytimenowMan over a year ago

Essex

Bloke was a proper tool

There is a video with John Reed

Where he talks about how dare they come into a muslim area .

What a chuckle

Waltham forest is a proper melting pot of society & in general we all get along .

I blame HACKNEY !!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are Arab based new streams in France celebrating this.

I won't rise to it. Love trumps hate!"
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No it doesnt, nobody actually thought in 1939 oooooo that Adolf he really needs a hug!

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By *laytimenowMan over a year ago

Essex

I am joking Hackney .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No surprice of who it was.

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By *laytimenowMan over a year ago

Essex

"London is full of nutjobs and weirdos always has been, banning things might make a few people feel better but will in all reality do very little.

Its just one of those things that we'll have to tough it out for awhile as the only real solutions are right wing radical ones and i threw my Nazi outfit to the charity shop last week so thats out!

Michael Ryan

Fred West

Ian Brady

Peter Sutcliffe

All well known nutty London erst

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No surprice of who it was."

What do you mean? Who was it?

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By *laytimenowMan over a year ago

Essex

"London is full of nutjobs and weirdos always has been, banning things might make a few people feel better but will in all reality do very little.

Its just one of those things that we'll have to tough it out for awhile as the only real solutions are right wing radical ones and i threw my Nazi outfit to the charity shop last week so thats out!

Michael Ryan

Fred West

Ian Brady

Peter Sutcliffe

All well known nutty London erst

Londoners Bliddy Spoll Chucka //

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"London is full of nutjobs and weirdos always has been, banning things might make a few people feel better but will in all reality do very little.

Its just one of those things that we'll have to tough it out for awhile as the only real solutions are right wing radical ones and i threw my Nazi outfit to the charity shop last week so thats out!

Michael Ryan

Fred West

Ian Brady

Peter Sutcliffe

All well known nutty London erst

Ronnie and Reggie Kray.

Mad Frankie Fraser.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No surprice of who it was."
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Oh no, inflammatory words, i feel the need to put the kettle on

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"There are Arab based new streams in France celebrating this.

I won't rise to it. Love trumps hate!.

No it doesnt, nobody actually thought in 1939 oooooo that Adolf he really needs a hug!"

We cannot generalise. The terrorist came from a religion of peace. It's externally applied intolerance to him that made him do this. We are just not tolerant enough if you ask me.

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By *rightonCheekyMan over a year ago

Brighton

Well we will keep sticking up for the human rights of extremists and nutters. Bless them ahhhh

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No surprice of who it was.

What do you mean? Who was it? "
That they have links with isis.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Abu Izzadeen aka Trevor Brooks so I imagine a lot of tweets about refugees and closing borders etc being deleted as we speak .

Oh Jesus the newly converted are just the worse i tell yer!"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Abu Izzadeen aka Trevor Brooks so I imagine a lot of tweets about refugees and closing borders etc being deleted as we speak "

It's not him.....he's still in prison

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No surprice of who it was."

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By *owdyboy 890Man over a year ago

Country West

As long as night and day is around there going to be around xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are Arab based new streams in France celebrating this.

I won't rise to it. Love trumps hate!.

No it doesnt, nobody actually thought in 1939 oooooo that Adolf he really needs a hug!

We cannot generalise. The terrorist came from a religion of peace. It's externally applied intolerance to him that made him do this. We are just not tolerant enough if you ask me."
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Or theres alot of mental illness running in Islam?.

Nutjobs will be more and more attracted to being Islamic these days, its where the action is

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Abu Izzadeen aka Trevor Brooks so I imagine a lot of tweets about refugees and closing borders etc being deleted as we speak .

Oh Jesus the newly converted are just the worse i tell yer!

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Dont look, this thread with all its inflammatory talk is likely to give you a nervous breakdown

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"London is full of nutjobs and weirdos always has been, banning things might make a few people feel better but will in all reality do very little.

Its just one of those things that we'll have to tough it out for awhile as the only real solutions are right wing radical ones and i threw my Nazi outfit to the charity shop last week so thats out!

Do you care about hurting other people?

I'm not talking about extremists for a second, I mean genuine, everyday, innocent people - would it bother you if you hurt them?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well we will keep sticking up for the human rights of extremists and nutters. Bless them ahhhh "

We bloody made them!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We cannot generalise. The terrorist came from a religion of peace. It's externally applied intolerance to him that made him do this. We are just not tolerant enough if you ask me."

Are you for real ? this person has been allowed to his free speech in probably one of the most tolerant countries in the world and goes on to carry out this attack.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well we will keep sticking up for the human rights of extremists and nutters. Bless them ahhhh "

And you?

Do you care about hurting other people?

I'm not talking about extremists for a second, I mean genuine, everyday, innocent people - would it bother you if you hurt them?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No surprice of who it was.

What do you mean? Who was it? That they have links with isis."

Obviously

I mean, who else could it of been?!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Abu Izzadeen aka Trevor Brooks so I imagine a lot of tweets about refugees and closing borders etc being deleted as we speak .

Oh Jesus the newly converted are just the worse i tell yer!

Dont look, this thread with all its inflammatory talk is likely to give you a nervous breakdown

Thank you for your concern about my potential health. I suspect you didn't mean it and are jeering, tantamount relishing being offensive there. Am I right?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are Arab based new streams in France celebrating this.

I won't rise to it. Love trumps hate!.

No it doesnt, nobody actually thought in 1939 oooooo that Adolf he really needs a hug!

We cannot generalise. The terrorist came from a religion of peace. It's externally applied intolerance to him that made him do this. We are just not tolerant enough if you ask me."

It's not a religion of peace. It's the verses in the Koran that extol the killing of infidels that are used by the extremists. The same verses moderates ignore. Muhammed was not afraid of letting a lot of blood himself too. And before you ask, no I'm not right wing, a Nazi, BNP sympathiser, and yes I think Donald Trump is unhinged.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are Arab based new streams in France celebrating this.

I won't rise to it. Love trumps hate!.

No it doesnt, nobody actually thought in 1939 oooooo that Adolf he really needs a hug!

We cannot generalise. The terrorist came from a religion of peace. It's externally applied intolerance to him that made him do this. We are just not tolerant enough if you ask me..

Or theres alot of mental illness running in Islam?.

Nutjobs will be more and more attracted to being Islamic these days, its where the action is"

Alot of people who join extremists groups tend to be loners in life who find it hard to form relationships with others. So they are prime candidates for radicalism as it gives them a sense of purpose and identity.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"London is full of nutjobs and weirdos always has been, banning things might make a few people feel better but will in all reality do very little.

Its just one of those things that we'll have to tough it out for awhile as the only real solutions are right wing radical ones and i threw my Nazi outfit to the charity shop last week so thats out!

Do you care about hurting other people?

I'm not talking about extremists for a second, I mean genuine, everyday, innocent people - would it bother you if you hurt them? "
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Not really no, well a little bit but not like Im losing sleep over it or anything

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Well we will keep sticking up for the human rights of extremists and nutters. Bless them ahhhh

We bloody made them!!! "

Absolutely with our modern crusades and lack of tolerance.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No surprice of who it was.

What do you mean? Who was it? That they have links with isis.

Obviously

I mean, who else could it of been?! "
That is right as only them beleivs there is a paradise.

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By *rightonCheekyMan over a year ago

Brighton

"Well we will keep sticking up for the human rights of extremists and nutters. Bless them ahhhh

We bloody made them!!! "

Exactly !!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are Arab based new streams in France celebrating this.

I won't rise to it. Love trumps hate!.

No it doesnt, nobody actually thought in 1939 oooooo that Adolf he really needs a hug!

We cannot generalise. The terrorist came from a religion of peace. It's externally applied intolerance to him that made him do this. We are just not tolerant enough if you ask me..

Or theres alot of mental illness running in Islam?.

Nutjobs will be more and more attracted to being Islamic these days, its where the action is

Damn, should we start frisking forum users

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"London is full of nutjobs and weirdos always has been, banning things might make a few people feel better but will in all reality do very little.

Its just one of those things that we'll have to tough it out for awhile as the only real solutions are right wing radical ones and i threw my Nazi outfit to the charity shop last week so thats out!

Do you care about hurting other people?

I'm not talking about extremists for a second, I mean genuine, everyday, innocent people - would it bother you if you hurt them? .

Not really no, well a little bit but not like Im losing sleep over it or anything

Yep. Thought as much. Carry on then.

Inflicting your hurt with disregard. Just as long as you're publicly owning that it doesn't bother you.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"There are Arab based new streams in France celebrating this.

I won't rise to it. Love trumps hate!.

No it doesnt, nobody actually thought in 1939 oooooo that Adolf he really needs a hug!

We cannot generalise. The terrorist came from a religion of peace. It's externally applied intolerance to him that made him do this. We are just not tolerant enough if you ask me.

Islam is a religion of peace - Obama said so!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well we will keep sticking up for the human rights of extremists and nutters. Bless them ahhhh

We bloody made them!!!

Absolutely with our modern crusades and lack of tolerance. "

I disagree. You piss off someone enough....

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By *oodmessMan over a year ago

yumsville

Anybody think the police response was a bit of overkill? There seemed to be coppers running around not really knowing what to do, countless cars used to shut off roads, helicopters and masses of ambulances.

I think they used it as much as a training exercise but ultimately it showed how incapable they were in dealing an event like this. I call it an event as yes people died but no bombs went off, no guns were used, no man hunts were needed, locations were not widespread. This was an extremely small event.

Imagine it when you look at the response - if this was in fact their tactical terror response (as reported by their Met commissioner). Every single essential service in one location. If there was another event in another location, they would have been far from equipped to deal with it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"London is full of nutjobs and weirdos always has been, banning things might make a few people feel better but will in all reality do very little.

Its just one of those things that we'll have to tough it out for awhile as the only real solutions are right wing radical ones and i threw my Nazi outfit to the charity shop last week so thats out!

Do you care about hurting other people?

I'm not talking about extremists for a second, I mean genuine, everyday, innocent people - would it bother you if you hurt them? .

Not really no, well a little bit but not like Im losing sleep over it or anything

Yep. Thought as much. Carry on then.

Inflicting your hurt with disregard. Just as long as you're publicly owning that it doesn't bother you.

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Oh yeah im quite happy saying what i say without regard for others feelings

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By *aggersMan over a year ago

portsmouth

"More stuff coming in all the time.

Be interesting to see what the Mayor has to say.

There is also a video out of the alleged terrorist complaining about Islamaphobia. I thought the point of a 'phobia' was that the concern/fear was irrational.

I think we need more tolerance. If this guy felt wanted or part of the community he would not have done this. Peace."

Sadly you live in a dream world these people are cowards and brain washed if I'm right in saying that the Quran doesn't condone this sort of behaviour and not all muslims are terrorists just a very small minority .. however that minority is more of a majority compared to other religions.. something does need to be done just not sure how we go about it when the enemy is amongst us in everyday life going undetected

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"London is full of nutjobs and weirdos always has been, banning things might make a few people feel better but will in all reality do very little.

Its just one of those things that we'll have to tough it out for awhile as the only real solutions are right wing radical ones and i threw my Nazi outfit to the charity shop last week so thats out!

Do you care about hurting other people?

I'm not talking about extremists for a second, I mean genuine, everyday, innocent people - would it bother you if you hurt them? .

Not really no, well a little bit but not like Im losing sleep over it or anything

Yep. Thought as much. Carry on then.

Inflicting your hurt with disregard. Just as long as you're publicly owning that it doesn't bother you.

Some people don't even deserve your time

. Just not worth it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are Arab based new streams in France celebrating this.

I won't rise to it. Love trumps hate!.

No it doesnt, nobody actually thought in 1939 oooooo that Adolf he really needs a hug!

We cannot generalise. The terrorist came from a religion of peace. It's externally applied intolerance to him that made him do this. We are just not tolerant enough if you ask me..

Or theres alot of mental illness running in Islam?.

Nutjobs will be more and more attracted to being Islamic these days, its where the action is

Damn, should we start frisking forum users

I was going to add something similar

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"London is full of nutjobs and weirdos always has been, banning things might make a few people feel better but will in all reality do very little.

Its just one of those things that we'll have to tough it out for awhile as the only real solutions are right wing radical ones and i threw my Nazi outfit to the charity shop last week so thats out!

Do you care about hurting other people?

I'm not talking about extremists for a second, I mean genuine, everyday, innocent people - would it bother you if you hurt them? .

Not really no, well a little bit but not like Im losing sleep over it or anything

Yep. Thought as much. Carry on then.

Inflicting your hurt with disregard. Just as long as you're publicly owning that it doesn't bother you.

Oh yeah im quite happy saying what i say without regard for others feelings

Clearly.

Quite the catch aren't you?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"London is full of nutjobs and weirdos always has been, banning things might make a few people feel better but will in all reality do very little.

Its just one of those things that we'll have to tough it out for awhile as the only real solutions are right wing radical ones and i threw my Nazi outfit to the charity shop last week so thats out!

Do you care about hurting other people?

I'm not talking about extremists for a second, I mean genuine, everyday, innocent people - would it bother you if you hurt them? .

Not really no, well a little bit but not like Im losing sleep over it or anything

Yep. Thought as much. Carry on then.

Inflicting your hurt with disregard. Just as long as you're publicly owning that it doesn't bother you.

Oh yeah im quite happy saying what i say without regard for others feelings

Clearly.

Quite the catch aren't you? "
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I can run 100m in 12 seconds still, thats not bad for knocking on 40

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"London is full of nutjobs and weirdos always has been, banning things might make a few people feel better but will in all reality do very little.

Its just one of those things that we'll have to tough it out for awhile as the only real solutions are right wing radical ones and i threw my Nazi outfit to the charity shop last week so thats out!

Do you care about hurting other people?

I'm not talking about extremists for a second, I mean genuine, everyday, innocent people - would it bother you if you hurt them? .

Not really no, well a little bit but not like Im losing sleep over it or anything

Yep. Thought as much. Carry on then.

Inflicting your hurt with disregard. Just as long as you're publicly owning that it doesn't bother you.

Some people don't even deserve your time

. Just not worth it. "

Oh he's not upsetting me per se. I was interested to see if he wanted an adult conversation around his uneducated use of language. But I wouldn't engage if something actually didn't take any interest in being accountable for their actions. He's publicly declared he doesn't care about upsetting other people, he's exposed who he is for all to see. And it's not a good look.

Feel sad for him really. Must be struggling with some stuff.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"London is full of nutjobs and weirdos always has been, banning things might make a few people feel better but will in all reality do very little.

Its just one of those things that we'll have to tough it out for awhile as the only real solutions are right wing radical ones and i threw my Nazi outfit to the charity shop last week so thats out!

Do you care about hurting other people?

I'm not talking about extremists for a second, I mean genuine, everyday, innocent people - would it bother you if you hurt them? .

Not really no, well a little bit but not like Im losing sleep over it or anything

Yep. Thought as much. Carry on then.

Inflicting your hurt with disregard. Just as long as you're publicly owning that it doesn't bother you.

Oh yeah im quite happy saying what i say without regard for others feelings

Clearly.

Quite the catch aren't you? .

I can run 100m in 12 seconds still, thats not bad for knocking on 40

Yay for you!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"London is full of nutjobs and weirdos always has been, banning things might make a few people feel better but will in all reality do very little.

Its just one of those things that we'll have to tough it out for awhile as the only real solutions are right wing radical ones and i threw my Nazi outfit to the charity shop last week so thats out!

Do you care about hurting other people?

I'm not talking about extremists for a second, I mean genuine, everyday, innocent people - would it bother you if you hurt them? .

Not really no, well a little bit but not like Im losing sleep over it or anything

Yep. Thought as much. Carry on then.

Inflicting your hurt with disregard. Just as long as you're publicly owning that it doesn't bother you.

Some people don't even deserve your time

. Just not worth it.

Feel sad for him really. Must be struggling with some stuff. "

*someone

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Blimey, the backlash is shameful

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By *obbytupperMan over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

"There are Arab based new streams in France celebrating this.

I won't rise to it. Love trumps hate!.

No it doesnt, nobody actually thought in 1939 oooooo that Adolf he really needs a hug!

We cannot generalise. The terrorist came from a religion of peace. It's externally applied intolerance to him that made him do this. We are just not tolerant enough if you ask me..

Or theres alot of mental illness running in Islam?.

Nutjobs will be more and more attracted to being Islamic these days, its where the action is

It'll have been a single male then.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"if it is the person channel 4 news are saying it is.... that person would absolutely be known to the authorities....

I take he would have been identified by finger prints, any half planned attacker isn't going to bring along identity "

Yes but that isn't how the media are IDing him

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ex british soldiers with PTSD most of them are loners are they extremists to?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"More stuff coming in all the time.

Be interesting to see what the Mayor has to say.

There is also a video out of the alleged terrorist complaining about Islamaphobia. I thought the point of a 'phobia' was that the concern/fear was irrational.

I think we need more tolerance. If this guy felt wanted or part of the community he would not have done this. Peace.

We cannot generalise. Islam is a religion of peace. These terror attacks are nothing to do with Islam.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"London is full of nutjobs and weirdos always has been, banning things might make a few people feel better but will in all reality do very little.

Its just one of those things that we'll have to tough it out for awhile as the only real solutions are right wing radical ones and i threw my Nazi outfit to the charity shop last week so thats out!

Do you care about hurting other people?

I'm not talking about extremists for a second, I mean genuine, everyday, innocent people - would it bother you if you hurt them? .

Not really no, well a little bit but not like Im losing sleep over it or anything

Yep. Thought as much. Carry on then.

Inflicting your hurt with disregard. Just as long as you're publicly owning that it doesn't bother you.

Oh yeah im quite happy saying what i say without regard for others feelings

Clearly.

Quite the catch aren't you? .

I can run 100m in 12 seconds still, thats not bad for knocking on 40

Is that when the CSA is in hot pursuit?

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By *aggersMan over a year ago

portsmouth

Estella just loves an argument to be honest ! Taking the moral high ground

Gotta love the keyboard warriors

You go girl

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"London is full of nutjobs and weirdos always has been, banning things might make a few people feel better but will in all reality do very little.

Its just one of those things that we'll have to tough it out for awhile as the only real solutions are right wing radical ones and i threw my Nazi outfit to the charity shop last week so thats out!

Do you care about hurting other people?

I'm not talking about extremists for a second, I mean genuine, everyday, innocent people - would it bother you if you hurt them? .

Not really no, well a little bit but not like Im losing sleep over it or anything

Yep. Thought as much. Carry on then.

Inflicting your hurt with disregard. Just as long as you're publicly owning that it doesn't bother you.

Some people don't even deserve your time

. Just not worth it.

Feel sad for him really. Must be struggling with some stuff. "
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No im really happy with life and most things in general, i just say what i say, nothing i say has any malice in it, however ill be honest i couldnt write much that you wouldnt find offensive, thats your problem not mine.

I havent followed you round once about anything you write but you seem to just be following me round having a go!

Honestly lifes to short to be worried about offending you

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By *aggersMan over a year ago

portsmouth

"More stuff coming in all the time.

Be interesting to see what the Mayor has to say.

There is also a video out of the alleged terrorist complaining about Islamaphobia. I thought the point of a 'phobia' was that the concern/fear was irrational.

I think we need more tolerance. If this guy felt wanted or part of the community he would not have done this. Peace.

We cannot generalise. Islam is a religion of peace. These terror attacks are nothing to do with Islam."

Totally agree with that

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"More stuff coming in all the time.

Be interesting to see what the Mayor has to say.

There is also a video out of the alleged terrorist complaining about Islamaphobia. I thought the point of a 'phobia' was that the concern/fear was irrational.

I think we need more tolerance. If this guy felt wanted or part of the community he would not have done this. Peace.

We cannot generalise. Islam is a religion of peace. These terror attacks are nothing to do with Islam."

Yes we can, no it's not, yes they are. I have as much proof as you do of my statement, ie none.

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By *awandOrderCouple over a year ago

SW London

Gosh, this sounds like a debate on the politics forum ... what is happening to the lounge ..... everyone is interested in politics today for some reason it isn't being marginalised

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Estella just loves an argument to be honest ! Taking the moral high ground

Gotta love the keyboard warriors

You go girl

Nah, I just challenge intolerance and inflammatory generalisations and assumptions online and in person.

Like your assumption here

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"More stuff coming in all the time.

Be interesting to see what the Mayor has to say.

There is also a video out of the alleged terrorist complaining about Islamaphobia. I thought the point of a 'phobia' was that the concern/fear was irrational.

I think we need more tolerance. If this guy felt wanted or part of the community he would not have done this. Peace.

We cannot generalise. Islam is a religion of peace. These terror attacks are nothing to do with Islam.

Yes we can, no it's not, yes they are. I have as much proof as you do of my statement, ie none."

What we need now is love and tolerance. And semi transparent union jacks all over Facebook

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nah, I just challenge intolerance and inflammatory generalisations and assumptions online and in person.

Like your assumption here

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"London is full of nutjobs and weirdos always has been, banning things might make a few people feel better but will in all reality do very little.

Its just one of those things that we'll have to tough it out for awhile as the only real solutions are right wing radical ones and i threw my Nazi outfit to the charity shop last week so thats out!

Do you care about hurting other people?

I'm not talking about extremists for a second, I mean genuine, everyday, innocent people - would it bother you if you hurt them? .

Not really no, well a little bit but not like Im losing sleep over it or anything

Yep. Thought as much. Carry on then.

Inflicting your hurt with disregard. Just as long as you're publicly owning that it doesn't bother you.

Some people don't even deserve your time

. Just not worth it.

Feel sad for him really. Must be struggling with some stuff. .

I havent followed you round once about anything you write but you seem to just be following me round having a go!

Honestly lifes to short to be worried about offending you

Glad you're happy. Not following you around at all -- just perusing the forums and responding where I want, you just keep saying things of interest for me to challenge. And I wasn't enquiringly as to whether you were worried about offending me, I was speaking in generalist terms and asked a question. I then responded to someone else's comment -- yikes are you following me?!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"London is full of nutjobs and weirdos always has been, banning things might make a few people feel better but will in all reality do very little.

Its just one of those things that we'll have to tough it out for awhile as the only real solutions are right wing radical ones and i threw my Nazi outfit to the charity shop last week so thats out!

Do you care about hurting other people?

I'm not talking about extremists for a second, I mean genuine, everyday, innocent people - would it bother you if you hurt them? .

Not really no, well a little bit but not like Im losing sleep over it or anything

Yep. Thought as much. Carry on then.

Inflicting your hurt with disregard. Just as long as you're publicly owning that it doesn't bother you.

Some people don't even deserve your time

. Just not worth it.

Feel sad for him really. Must be struggling with some stuff. .

I havent followed you round once about anything you write but you seem to just be following me round having a go!

Honestly lifes to short to be worried about offending you

*enquiring

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"More stuff coming in all the time.

Be interesting to see what the Mayor has to say.

There is also a video out of the alleged terrorist complaining about Islamaphobia. I thought the point of a 'phobia' was that the concern/fear was irrational.

I think we need more tolerance. If this guy felt wanted or part of the community he would not have done this. Peace.

We cannot generalise. Islam is a religion of peace. These terror attacks are nothing to do with Islam.

Yes we can, no it's not, yes they are. I have as much proof as you do of my statement, ie none."

Nice Nips

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"More stuff coming in all the time.

Be interesting to see what the Mayor has to say.

There is also a video out of the alleged terrorist complaining about Islamaphobia. I thought the point of a 'phobia' was that the concern/fear was irrational.

I think we need more tolerance. If this guy felt wanted or part of the community he would not have done this. Peace.

We cannot generalise. Islam is a religion of peace. These terror attacks are nothing to do with Islam.

Yes we can, no it's not, yes they are. I have as much proof as you do of my statement, ie none.

What we need now is love and tolerance. And semi transparent union jacks all over Facebook "

Yes. Love and tolerance for the victims' families. Not for the murdering cunt or the cause it purports to represent, whatever that cause may turn out to be.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"More stuff coming in all the time.

Be interesting to see what the Mayor has to say.

There is also a video out of the alleged terrorist complaining about Islamaphobia. I thought the point of a 'phobia' was that the concern/fear was irrational.

I think we need more tolerance. If this guy felt wanted or part of the community he would not have done this. Peace."

It is irrational to be phobic of all followers of Islam for not all of them will be terrorists and a large percentage of them will condem any attack in their name.

Terrorists are not religious leaders. They hide behind religion to cause fear and division.

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

well that was the most interesting channel 4 news i think i have watched...

it was "him"

ooooh.... now we are having to backtrack because we are not sure it is "him"....

"Him's" brother has called us to say that he is in jail... so it can't be "him".........

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By *aggersMan over a year ago

portsmouth

"Estella just loves an argument to be honest ! Taking the moral high ground

Gotta love the keyboard warriors

You go girl

Nah, I just challenge intolerance and inflammatory generalisations and assumptions online and in person.

Like your assumption here

Have a rest love you must be knackered

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"well that was the most interesting channel 4 news i think i have watched...

it was "him"

ooooh.... now we are having to backtrack because we are not sure it is "him"....

"Him's" brother has called us to say that he is in jail... so it can't be "him"........."

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"More stuff coming in all the time.

Be interesting to see what the Mayor has to say.

There is also a video out of the alleged terrorist complaining about Islamaphobia. I thought the point of a 'phobia' was that the concern/fear was irrational.

I think we need more tolerance. If this guy felt wanted or part of the community he would not have done this. Peace.

It is irrational to be phobic of all followers of Islam for not all of them will be terrorists and a large percentage of them will condem any attack in their name.

Terrorists are not religious leaders. They hide behind religion to cause fear and division. "

Absolutely and I will not hear it said that any religious leader/preacher has radicalised any of the terrorists ever. Islam is a religion of peace.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"More stuff coming in all the time.

Be interesting to see what the Mayor has to say.

There is also a video out of the alleged terrorist complaining about Islamaphobia. I thought the point of a 'phobia' was that the concern/fear was irrational.

I think we need more tolerance. If this guy felt wanted or part of the community he would not have done this. Peace.

It is irrational to be phobic of all followers of Islam for not all of them will be terrorists and a large percentage of them will condem any attack in their name.

Terrorists are not religious leaders. They hide behind religion to cause fear and division.

Absolutely and I will not hear it said that any religious leader/preacher has radicalised any of the terrorists ever. Islam is a religion of peace."

So why claim that islamophibia cannot exist if it is an irrational fear?

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By *aggersMan over a year ago

portsmouth

"Nah, I just challenge intolerance and inflammatory generalisations and assumptions online and in person.

Like your assumption here

Don't encourage her she's all over these feeds picking at everyone's own personal opinions clearly loves the attention

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm Atheist.

And I DO mean ATHEIST.

Even for me the fucking STUPID is strong in this thread.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Anybody think the police response was a bit of overkill? There seemed to be coppers running around not really knowing what to do, countless cars used to shut off roads, helicopters and masses of ambulances.

Not overkill tbh as sometimes what has happened with such terror attacks is to launch a secondary attack at the same location and the cordons would have been set up further afield than just the Parliament square area and the bridge to deter anyone who had a secondary attack planned be spotted beforehand.

The response was about right as procedures dictate numerous calls from the public to the services mean there could have been multiple targets as one persons phonecall cant be relied on for exact location, how many involved, which way did the person come from and go to etc.

I'm sure enough people were sent to deal with every outcome both at that time and afterwards.

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By *awandOrderCouple over a year ago

SW London

"Nah, I just challenge intolerance and inflammatory generalisations and assumptions online and in person.

Like your assumption here

Don't encourage her she's all over these feeds picking at everyone's own personal opinions clearly loves the attention "

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"well that was the most interesting channel 4 news i think i have watched...

it was "him"

ooooh.... now we are having to backtrack because we are not sure it is "him"....

"Him's" brother has called us to say that he is in jail... so it can't be "him".........

its is so bad... channel 4 have had to pull it from their "+1" channel.....

say hello to my slander case!!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

We need more peace and candles. All will be well.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"London is full of nutjobs and weirdos always has been, banning things might make a few people feel better but will in all reality do very little.

Its just one of those things that we'll have to tough it out for awhile as the only real solutions are right wing radical ones and i threw my Nazi outfit to the charity shop last week so thats out!

Do you care about hurting other people?

I'm not talking about extremists for a second, I mean genuine, everyday, innocent people - would it bother you if you hurt them? .

Not really no, well a little bit but not like Im losing sleep over it or anything

Yep. Thought as much. Carry on then.

Inflicting your hurt with disregard. Just as long as you're publicly owning that it doesn't bother you.

Some people don't even deserve your time

. Just not worth it.

Feel sad for him really. Must be struggling with some stuff. .

I havent followed you round once about anything you write but you seem to just be following me round having a go!

Honestly lifes to short to be worried about offending you

"
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Read through what you wrote about me being a sad individual with nothing going for him in life and then have a long hard think about your message of tolerance and assumptions

What you actually are is a book burning ideological Nazi where everybody is free to say anything providing its past through your ministry!.

Where as i can read stuff, say stuff, debate and critique and still not wail about your words offending me.

Try it, you might like it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nah, I just challenge intolerance and inflammatory generalisations and assumptions online and in person.

Like your assumption here

Don't encourage her she's all over these feeds picking at everyone's own personal opinions clearly loves the attention "

Am I not allowed to disagree with you? Or have I offended your sensibilities by challenging your comment? Are you not picking at my personal opinions? If you're feeling too fragile, please by all means stop posting

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By *uckandbunnyCouple over a year ago

In your bed

"well that was the most interesting channel 4 news i think i have watched...

it was "him"

ooooh.... now we are having to backtrack because we are not sure it is "him"....

"Him's" brother has called us to say that he is in jail... so it can't be "him"........."

I was getting pissed off with c4 news.

Saying it was embarrassing that this guy, although the wrong guy was able to carry out the attack. Yeh because we can clearly stop people owning cars and buying knives.

Ps huge generalisations on all sides, saying Islam is peace loving is just as big a generalisation as saying they are all nutters. It covers a spectrum of views, same as the Bible and many other religious books.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm Atheist.

And I DO mean ATHEIST.

Even for me the fucking STUPID is strong in this thread."

Yep...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nah, I just challenge intolerance and inflammatory generalisations and assumptions online and in person.

Like your assumption here

Don't encourage her she's all over these feeds picking at everyone's own personal opinions clearly loves the attention "

Where to start? No actually, I'm going push my keyboard away. Just

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"well that was the most interesting channel 4 news i think i have watched...

it was "him"

ooooh.... now we are having to backtrack because we are not sure it is "him"....

"Him's" brother has called us to say that he is in jail... so it can't be "him".........

I was getting pissed off with c4 news.

Saying it was embarrassing that this guy, although the wrong guy was able to carry out the attack. Yeh because we can clearly stop people owning cars and buying knives.

You're WRONG Islam is a peaceful religion.

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By *ust PeachyWoman over a year ago

Prestonish

"There are Arab based new streams in France celebrating this.

I won't rise to it. Love trumps hate!.

No it doesnt, nobody actually thought in 1939 oooooo that Adolf he really needs a hug!

We cannot generalise. The terrorist came from a religion of peace. It's externally applied intolerance to him that made him do this. We are just not tolerant enough if you ask me."

To be honest I completely disagree! Not that we shouldn't be tolerant as a society (though I still think we ARE a largely tolerant society!) - but that external forces 'caused' him to want to murder innocent people. Sadly, a very small percentage of mankind are wicked, bad, evil - however you want to put it! These people will carry out atrocious/evil acts whether they have a 'legitimate' platform or not if its in their nature! Hence we have murders/mass murders for their own sake as well as political/religious crimes!

I'm sad that most of 'society' seem to view swingers as degenerate perverts - but I'm not inclined to launch an attack on 'vanilla' people!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"London is full of nutjobs and weirdos always has been, banning things might make a few people feel better but will in all reality do very little.

Its just one of those things that we'll have to tough it out for awhile as the only real solutions are right wing radical ones and i threw my Nazi outfit to the charity shop last week so thats out!

Do you care about hurting other people?

I'm not talking about extremists for a second, I mean genuine, everyday, innocent people - would it bother you if you hurt them? .

Not really no, well a little bit but not like Im losing sleep over it or anything

Yep. Thought as much. Carry on then.

Inflicting your hurt with disregard. Just as long as you're publicly owning that it doesn't bother you.

Some people don't even deserve your time

. Just not worth it.

Feel sad for him really. Must be struggling with some stuff. .

I havent followed you round once about anything you write but you seem to just be following me round having a go!

Honestly lifes to short to be worried about offending you

Read through what you wrote about me being a sad individual with nothing going for him in life and then have a long hard think about your message of tolerance and assumptions

What you actually are is a book burning ideological Nazi where everybody is free to say anything providing its past through your ministry!.

Where as i can read stuff, say stuff, debate and critique and still not wail about your words offending me.

Try it, you might like it

Might you be adding in to what I actually said?

I said I felt sad for you. I didn't say you were a sad individual with nothing going for you in life. I said you must be struggling with some stuff. Possibly me!

Good to hear you can read

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By *unandbuckCouple over a year ago

Sheffield

Oh dear, after this thread started I looked and there was only Twitter 'news' naming 'him'.

I didn't see C4 but if they have named him as a result of fake news it's poor from a mainstream broadcaster.

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By *aggersMan over a year ago

portsmouth

"Nah, I just challenge intolerance and inflammatory generalisations and assumptions online and in person.

Like your assumption here

Don't encourage her she's all over these feeds picking at everyone's own personal opinions clearly loves the attention

Actually yes you offend every sensibility I have in me so for that I'm out

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By *uckandbunnyCouple over a year ago

In your bed

"Well we will keep sticking up for the human rights of extremists and nutters. Bless them ahhhh

We bloody made them!!! "

Can you please stop excusing personal responsibility. If I walked up to you in the street and slapped you and said it was because society made me this way I doubt you'd be so easy to let it slide.

I had no hand in todays events, neither did anyone else.

The guy made his own mind up.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Might you be adding in to what I actually said?

I said I felt sad for you. I didn't say you were a sad individual with nothing going for you in life. I said you must be struggling with some stuff. Possibly me!

Good to hear you can read

"
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Lol you cant even be honest in your trolling!.

Just say it honestly i wont be offended, your making me giggle

Tell you what, what did i say that you found offended you and ill try to set your mind at rest that its really nothing to get your knickers in a twist about

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Are we at post 175 yet?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are we at post 175 yet? "

Nah no sign of m1cks yet

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nah, I just challenge intolerance and inflammatory generalisations and assumptions online and in person.

Like your assumption here

Don't encourage her she's all over these feeds picking at everyone's own personal opinions clearly loves the attention

Actually yes you offend every sensibility I have in me so for that I'm out

Oh dear. Peace

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Might you be adding in to what I actually said?

I said I felt sad for you. I didn't say you were a sad individual with nothing going for you in life. I said you must be struggling with some stuff. Possibly me!

Good to hear you can read

Lol you cant even be honest in your trolling!.

Just say it honestly i wont be offended, your making me giggle

Tell you what, what did i say that you found offended you and ill try to set your mind at rest that its really nothing to get your knickers in a twist about"

You're making no sense now. Or are you back-pedalling?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are we at post 175 yet? "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are we at post 175 yet?

Nah no sign of m1cks yet

Come on M1cks, we need your help over here!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are we at post 175 yet?

Nah no sign of m1cks yet

Come on M1cks, we need your help over here!"

You forgot the "fs"

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

We knew it was only 'when' not 'if' an attack happened. A drill took place just the other day around Westminster.

We know we need to keep vigilant tonight and for the next few days for linked attacks. It is sad that this is how we have to live but it's not new for London and I remember clearly London during the Christian faction attacks in the 70s and 80s.

We can't avoid cars in London (or just about anywhere else) and we can't be suspicious of every person we pass. Life will always return to some level of normal otherwise they have achieved their objectives.

Terrorist are NEVER representatives of the religions they claim to be 'fighting' for. The three Abrahamic faiths all violence in their Bibles but they also all preach peace.

My thoughts are with the families and friends of the four people who have lost their lives today.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We knew it was only 'when' not 'if' an attack happened. A drill took place just the other day around Westminster.

Terrorist are NEVER representatives of the religions they claim to be 'fighting' for. The three Abrahamic faiths all violence in their Bibles but they also all preach peace.

My thoughts are with the families and friends of the four people who have lost their lives today.

Beautifully articulated

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I haven't had a chance to read the facts on what happened in London today however by the sounds of it, it wasn't pretty.

I'd just like to express my sincere sympathy for the families of those involved.

Maybe a nice way to end this thred would be if everyone did the same.

Condolences.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Good sentiment m1cks

Those affected are very much in my thoughts.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There appears to be largely varied views on religion, wether it's peaceful and if it is either good or bad.

I will offer up my opinion. Religion is neither good or bad, it is just words on a page, written by man.

Believe it or not, religion, whichever one you hold dear, is not the poison chalice that people seem to think. People are the poison to religion. They read scriptures and take what they want to find, usually out of context, in order to further their own aims.

Would you say that Christianity, and the bible, were evil, because someone of the faith was homophobic? I certainly wouldn't. My opinion would be formed against the intolerable nature of the person, not by the books he/she reads.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There appears to be largely varied views on religion, wether it's peaceful and if it is either good or bad.

I will offer up my opinion. Religion is neither good or bad, it is just words on a page, written by man.

Someone once told me; there is no such thing as a bad religion, only good and bad people.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Next up the Spanish inquisition had nothing to do with Spain or Catholicism, it could just have easily been the quakers

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There appears to be largely varied views on religion, wether it's peaceful and if it is either good or bad.

I will offer up my opinion. Religion is neither good or bad, it is just words on a page, written by man.

Someone once told me; there is no such thing as a bad religion, only good and bad people. "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There's been more wars and people killed in the name of Religion since records began.

But Religion has always been used as a front for ulterior motives like control of land, people, wealth, resources and greed.

Its Man not the Religion that is to blame in my opinion

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think the police and government should have more control over information spread on the Internet. If anyone has any information relating to any terrorist activity or child abuse linked to their isp they should be dealt with accordingly and harshly.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

They managed to lock down probably the busiest city on earth in a matter of 10 minutes, why don't you try and put yourself in their position before you post such rubbish

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I think the police and government should have more control over information spread on the Internet. If anyone has any information relating to any terrorist activity or child abuse linked to their isp they should be dealt with accordingly and harshly. "

How do you police that? The internet is vast. It already has algorithms trying to spot just that as well as people scanning our material. Just on here we've all posted on something about terrorism. Does that count as information or people chatting?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Believe it or not due to financial problems i didn't have any media, TV etc for 4 or 5 years and got out the habit of watching.

But looking at it now its like everyone is brainwashed, they actually believe in the this is acceptable, when it was confirmed to be a muslim (surprise) some dickhead who was white asked has it been verified like it might have been an Antarctican.

The BBC will not confirm the identity of the attacker, like the Swedes don't report the identity of rapists, Stockholm syndrome was so aptly named.?

if you want to know the truth don't bother with mainstream media.

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

They managed to lock down probably the busiest city on earth in a matter of 10 minutes, why don't you try and put yourself in their position before you post such rubbish "

My staff in Westminster we're all informed of the lock down before the rest of us working elsewhere even heard about the incident.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple over a year ago

In your bed

They managed to lock down probably the busiest city on earth in a matter of 10 minutes, why don't you try and put yourself in their position before you post such rubbish "

Back seat copper.

No one knew if this was one nut job or the start of a sustainable attack.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You surprise me a bit in some way or another everyday, M1cks... good man

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Believe it or not due to financial problems i didn't have any media, TV etc for 4 or 5 years and got out the habit of watching.

The BBC will not confirm the identity of the attacker, like the Swedes don't report the identity of rapists, Stockholm syndrome was so aptly named.?

if you want to know the truth don't bother with mainstream media.

When Jo Cox was killed there were those saying it must have been a Muslim at first. At the top of thread we were informed that the assailant was known yet the person named is currently in prison. We will be told and I would rather it is when the actual person is known and not some speculation of anyone brown with a 'funny' name, which, of course, means they must be Muslim.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Believe it or not due to financial problems i didn't have any media, TV etc for 4 or 5 years and got out the habit of watching.

The BBC will not confirm the identity of the attacker, like the Swedes don't report the identity of rapists, Stockholm syndrome was so aptly named.?

if you want to know the truth don't bother with mainstream media.

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I thought the news said he was white?

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Believe it or not due to financial problems i didn't have any media, TV etc for 4 or 5 years and got out the habit of watching.

The BBC will not confirm the identity of the attacker, like the Swedes don't report the identity of rapists, Stockholm syndrome was so aptly named.?

if you want to know the truth don't bother with mainstream media.

I thought the news said he was white?"

The person named on this thread isn't.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Believe it or not due to financial problems i didn't have any media, TV etc for 4 or 5 years and got out the habit of watching.

The BBC will not confirm the identity of the attacker, like the Swedes don't report the identity of rapists, Stockholm syndrome was so aptly named.?

if you want to know the truth don't bother with mainstream media.

I thought the news said he was white?"

They did, but why let the truth get in the way of a moral crusade

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

To be fair when that Scottish newspaper Muslim got beaten to death there was quite a few jumped to the conclusion it was the BNP!.

Of course if your a copper you could say theres a Modus operandi and todays one fits perfectly with Islamic terrorism, just like when the IRA blew up Manchester we pretty much knew it wasn't a Muslim outfit

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

****newsflash****

A persons religion is not restricted by the colour of their skin, believe it or not, you can get black, brown or yellow Christians and likewise you can get white Muslims

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Believe it or not due to financial problems i didn't have any media, TV etc for 4 or 5 years and got out the habit of watching.

The BBC will not confirm the identity of the attacker, like the Swedes don't report the identity of rapists, Stockholm syndrome was so aptly named.?

if you want to know the truth don't bother with mainstream media.

I thought the news said he was white?

The person named on this thread isn't.

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Who that dick whos in prison for being a nob, yea well he can hustle for some compo for ruining his good name now so alls good

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By *uckandbunnyCouple over a year ago

In your bed

"Believe it or not due to financial problems i didn't have any media, TV etc for 4 or 5 years and got out the habit of watching.

The BBC will not confirm the identity of the attacker, like the Swedes don't report the identity of rapists, Stockholm syndrome was so aptly named.?

if you want to know the truth don't bother with mainstream media.

I thought the news said he was white?

They did, but why let the truth get in the way of a moral crusade

Yeh but the news also named the fella who was in prison. So you can equate what the news says with the truth.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We knew it was only 'when' not 'if' an attack happened. A drill took place just the other day around Westminster.

Terrorist are NEVER representatives of the religions they claim to be 'fighting' for. The three Abrahamic faiths all violence in their Bibles but they also all preach peace.

My thoughts are with the families and friends of the four people who have lost their lives today.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Believe it or not due to financial problems i didn't have any media, TV etc for 4 or 5 years and got out the habit of watching.

The BBC will not confirm the identity of the attacker, like the Swedes don't report the identity of rapists, Stockholm syndrome was so aptly named.?

if you want to know the truth don't bother with mainstream media.

I thought the news said he was white?

They did, but why let the truth get in the way of a moral crusade

Yeh but the news also named the fella who was in prison. So you can equate what the news says with the truth. "
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No the bit i saw was an eye witness report given to the journalist who then went on to say this wasnt confirmed and remained speculation

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"****newsflash****

A persons religion is not restricted by the colour of their skin, believe it or not, you can get black, brown or yellow Christians and likewise you can get white Muslims

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You cant get yellow Jews

, well not unless they got jaundice

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Believe it or not due to financial problems i didn't have any media, TV etc for 4 or 5 years and got out the habit of watching.

The BBC will not confirm the identity of the attacker, like the Swedes don't report the identity of rapists, Stockholm syndrome was so aptly named.?

if you want to know the truth don't bother with mainstream media.

I thought the news said he was white?

They did, but why let the truth get in the way of a moral crusade

You realise the news (and this thread) also named someone who isn't white, don't you? What I see as stating the bleedin' obvious you are blowing up into a 'moral crusade' and using that to belittle.

Why are people so quick to start more hatred? Are you hoping to rile enough of us into individual rages of terror? Take a moment to read that all I said was that I believe we will be told who the person is and that I would rather wait for that than speculate.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Believe it or not due to financial problems i didn't have any media, TV etc for 4 or 5 years and got out the habit of watching.

The BBC will not confirm the identity of the attacker, like the Swedes don't report the identity of rapists, Stockholm syndrome was so aptly named.?

if you want to know the truth don't bother with mainstream media.

I thought the news said he was white?

They did, but why let the truth get in the way of a moral crusade

You realise the news (and this thread) also named someone who isn't white, don't you? What I see as stating the bleedin' obvious you are blowing up into a 'moral crusade' and using that to belittle.

To be fair I think we are talking about different things. But I know what I have seen today, no more to add.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple over a year ago

In your bed

"Believe it or not due to financial problems i didn't have any media, TV etc for 4 or 5 years and got out the habit of watching.

The BBC will not confirm the identity of the attacker, like the Swedes don't report the identity of rapists, Stockholm syndrome was so aptly named.?

if you want to know the truth don't bother with mainstream media.

I thought the news said he was white?

They did, but why let the truth get in the way of a moral crusade

Yeh but the news also named the fella who was in prison. So you can equate what the news says with the truth. .

No the bit i saw was an eye witness report given to the journalist who then went on to say this wasnt confirmed and remained speculation

Eye witnesses tend to not be totally reliable. Could have been anyone running anywhere. For example in America

(In 20 to 25 percent of the 75,000 police lineups conducted annually, the witness picks a filler.)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Dafuq

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is this bitch no closed yet? "

Keep going, you're doing an awesome job

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i hoped it was someone named brian.....i had a fiver on it being a brian

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Jewish people?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yellow"

it's not a fucking canary.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A tweet tweet you say

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We knew it was only 'when' not 'if' an attack happened. A drill took place just the other day around Westminster.

Terrorist are NEVER representatives of the religions they claim to be 'fighting' for. The three Abrahamic faiths all violence in their Bibles but they also all preach peace.

My thoughts are with the families and friends of the four people who have lost their lives today.

3 innocent people wont go home to their families due to no fault of their own. The 4th is a sick nutjob who isn't worth wasting any energy on.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

For some reason this phone keeps posting single lines fs

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"[Removed by poster at 22/03/17 22:00:44]"

best delete before i get a wrist slap

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"[Removed by poster at 22/03/17 22:00:44]"

Are you gonna be a black, brown, yellow or pink Jewish person?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Jewish people? "
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I never seen a yellow Jew have you?.

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"We knew it was only 'when' not 'if' an attack happened. A drill took place just the other day around Westminster.

Terrorist are NEVER representatives of the religions they claim to be 'fighting' for. The three Abrahamic faiths all violence in their Bibles but they also all preach peace.

My thoughts are with the families and friends of the four people who have lost their lives today.

3 innocent people wont go home to their families due to no fault of their own. The 4th is a sick nutjob who isn't worth wasting any energy on."

So his family should be condemned too? My thoughts were for the families and I continue to have sympathy for all of them.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The sheer ignorance of some offends the intelligence of the rest of us fs.

RIP to the those whose lives have been lost and God help those who caused it, may the punishment fit the crime.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Is it even technically possible i mean doesnt a Jew have to a direct relation of the chosen bunch that wandered the desert?,i dont recall there being any Asians in that group?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We knew it was only 'when' not 'if' an attack happened. A drill took place just the other day around Westminster.

Terrorist are NEVER representatives of the religions they claim to be 'fighting' for. The three Abrahamic faiths all violence in their Bibles but they also all preach peace.

My thoughts are with the families and friends of the four people who have lost their lives today.

3 innocent people wont go home to their families due to no fault of their own. The 4th is a sick nutjob who isn't worth wasting any energy on.

So his family should be condemned too? My thoughts were for the families and I continue to have sympathy for all of them."

Until they publicly condemn his actions; Yes!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Just heard a friend is safe.

Relief.

So sad for those affected

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is it even technically possible i mean doesnt a Jew have to a direct relation of the chosen bunch that wandered the desert?,i dont recall there being any Asians in that group?"

They don't take converts then

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You can convert to Judaism but that doesnt technically make you a Jew, a bit like a Jew is always a Jew even if there not religious, being a Jew isnt being religious, your a ethnicity all on your own arent you?.

I dunno maybe im just being ignorant

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Fruit the loop eh

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"[Removed by poster at 22/03/17 22:00:44]

Are you gonna be a black, brown, yellow or pink Jewish person? "

black, the original jew

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By *orwegian BlueMan over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

Angry young men have always looked for a cause to fight, a reason to be thugs...

There isn't anyway to stop this other than a concerted effort world wide to rid it of extremist hatred.

There is always going to be those lawless countries that will harbour the extreme views, the countries where these views are tolerated..

But by reducing the influence to small pockets in far flung and backward places, the appeal to become an extremist will subside..

Al Quaida was the old threat, they were powerful, we'll connected and able to do severe damage...

The current threat, Islamic state, are a rag tag bunch which relied upon destabilised countries to gain power..

The more they are cut off and reduced in numbers, the less influencal they will be...

Maybe one day, these angry young men will just be football hooligans and not religious extremists as that is the only cause they have left to fight for.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You can convert to Judaism but that doesnt technically make you a Jew, a bit like a Jew is always a Jew even if there not religious, being a Jew isnt being religious, your a ethnicity all on your own arent you?.

I dunno maybe im just being ignorant

Nothings ever easy is it

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"We knew it was only 'when' not 'if' an attack happened. A drill took place just the other day around Westminster.

Terrorist are NEVER representatives of the religions they claim to be 'fighting' for. The three Abrahamic faiths all violence in their Bibles but they also all preach peace.

My thoughts are with the families and friends of the four people who have lost their lives today.

3 innocent people wont go home to their families due to no fault of their own. The 4th is a sick nutjob who isn't worth wasting any energy on.

So his family should be condemned too? My thoughts were for the families and I continue to have sympathy for all of them.

Until they publicly condemn his actions; Yes!"

And so hatred is perpetuated. Where does it stop? It's that mentality that is radicalising some because it doesn't matter how much they condemn those who commit these atrocities in the name of the religion they claim to share with them or because the share the same skin colour it makes no difference to SOME people.

Do unto others as you would be done by. If your parent or child or sibling committed a crime you might want someone to understand that it wasn't you or your fault.

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