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"God " I'm Atheist.  | |||
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"I believe so.. I struggle to see no reason. How about you?" Me? I find it difficult to contemplate the universe and what lays beyond it. I don't believe there's a meaning. I think we're the result of happy accidents but need to imbue our existence with meaning or...what's the point? | |||
"God I'm Atheist. "You go girl. I believe in you.  | |||
"Ok.. Do you think we go somewhere else after death?" Yep! We're energy and energy can't be destroyed it turns in to something else | |||
"Ok.. Do you think we go somewhere else after death? Yep! We're energy and energy can't be destroyed it turns in to something else" Entropy. Eventually. | |||
"God I'm Atheist.
You go girl. I believe in you. "pfft. | |||
"The 'why' in the OP presupposes the idea that there is reasoning behind it and therefore forethought of some description, which negates the question since it answers itself semantically." If you're applying pure logic, then this can't be right - it only negates the set of answers of the type, 'there is no meaning'. There's still more than one option remaining. God, why am I doing this? I said I didn't want a philosophical discussion here. | |||
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"Ok I swear never to put a philosophical topic up. I sincerely apologise. Although, you have made me smile with your responses. Good evening " Why not? I thought you wanted discussion  | |||
"Ok I swear never to put a philosophical topic up. I sincerely apologise. Although, you have made me smile with your responses. Good evening " If you use reply and quote we know which post you are responding to. It's less poetic but it helps to be prosaic sometimes. | |||
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"I was hoping for an answer to the OP to be provided in rhyming couplets or some form of poetic verse. Dis-a-point-ed "The Op asked us all about meaning, Of why stars and light things are beaming, The replies aren't in verse; and are really quite terse, So the Op has reverted to dreaming! | |||
"I was hoping for an answer to the OP to be provided in rhyming couplets or some form of poetic verse. Dis-a-point-ed
The Op asked us all about meaning,
Of why stars and light things are beaming,
The replies aren't in verse;
and are really quite terse,
So the Op has reverted to dreaming!"You fella are WINNING at life!  | |||
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"well, if we're doing poems... Do we exist, and if so, then why? And what happens to us when we die? Why does dying make others cry? If the sun combusts we will die... that's a lie, it's combusting already but at a speed and distance that is perfect to create life on earth and for that life to evolve into what we see now and sonewhere along the line we got a brain that questions our existence and the meaning of life and we think about this sometimes but it doesnt make sense, science sometimes makes sense of it but often it answers not much and brings up further questions. And with that i say, i tried. " Great effort | |||
"The 'why' in the OP presupposes the idea that there is reasoning behind it and therefore forethought of some description, which negates the question since it answers itself semantically."  | |||
"well, if we're doing poems... Do we exist, and if so, then why? And what happens to us when we die? Why does dying make others cry? If the sun combusts we will die... that's a lie, it's combusting already but at a speed and distance that is perfect to create life on earth and for that life to evolve into what we see now and sonewhere along the line we got a brain that questions our existence and the meaning of life and we think about this sometimes but it doesnt make sense, science sometimes makes sense of it but often it answers not much and brings up further questions. And with that i say, i tried. Great effort "black on track started it.  | |||
"Ok.. Do you think we go somewhere else after death? Yep! We're energy and energy can't be destroyed it turns in to something else" | |||
"I believe so.. I struggle to see no reason. How about you? Me? I find it difficult to contemplate the universe and what lays beyond it. I don't believe there's a meaning. I think we're the result of happy accidents but need to imbue our existence with meaning or...what's the point?" Even of it was an accident that's still a why  | |||
"Ok.. Do you think we go somewhere else after death? Yep! We're energy and energy can't be destroyed it turns in to something else Entropy. Eventually." Energy never dissipates merely transfers to another form | |||
"'Meaning' is a human creation. There's no such thing as meaning in the way we percieve it without a human there to do the perceiving. The question presupposes that a human invention or creation can be used to 'explain' everything....I don't think so." Perhaps but there's always a reason even if that reason is an ancient, by design etc inescapably always a reason | |||
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"Ok.. Do you think we go somewhere else after death? Yep! We're energy and energy can't be destroyed it turns in to something else Entropy. Eventually. Energy never dissipates merely transfers to another form "Physicist: Electrical energy is nothing special. Just like the chemical energy in our bodies, it breaks down into heat. For example, the heat given off by light bulbs (or electric heaters for that matter!) is a result of electrical energy. When electricity is flowing to a light bulb, that’s where the electrical energy is going; it’s turning into light. When you pull the plug (so to speak) what tiny, tiny amount of electrical energy there is in the wires runs out almost immediately. The term “electrical energy” is actually a little vague. So, to be specific, in our nervous system there are tiny ion pumps that maintain an imbalance of charges between the inside and outside of the nerve cells. When a nerve cell fires, charges are allowed to suddenly flow through the cell membrane in a process called an “action potential“. The way electricity flows along nerve cells is different from the way it flows down a telegraph wire (“inside-to-outside” instead of “along”), but whatever. The point is, there are mechanisms that maintain an imbalance of charge (which is electricity waiting to happen), and that imbalance is drained a little bit every time the nerve fires. Death (excluding spectacular deaths) isn’t instantaneous. In fact, what with medical science, it’s become more and more difficult to even define when people are dead. Time was you could define death as being a lack of heart beat, but people have come back from worse (by that metric, Dick Cheney has been dead for a while). Death is more of a break-down of the whole system, as opposed to a sudden event. The heart stops doing whatever hearts do when they’re not loving, oxygen and nutrients stop going where they’re needed, and in short order the nerve cells in the body lose the wherewithal to pump ions. Like batteries that are no longer being recharged, they run down. Nothing special. Like every kind of energy, whether electrical, kinetic, sonic, or sports fever, the electrical potential in the body eventually becomes heat energy (it’s an entropy thing). The energy we “carry around” takes the form of chemical energy like fats and sugars. When our nervous system creates electrical energy we lose an equal amount of chemical energy. So, rather than being energy itself, life is all about moving energy around from one form to another. What this question is clearly really about is the fact that it seems as though there’s a fundamental difference between animate and inanimate people. Admittedly, dead folk are a hair less energetic than living people (with some exceptions). There are a few kinds of energy (surprisingly few), but spiritual energy doesn’t seem to be one of them. In terms of physical energy, the difference between a living body and a very recently dead body is just a question of how that energy is being organized. Living critters in general are very good at using chemical energy for things like moving, growing, etc. Newly dead critters have about the same amount of chemical energy, it’s just that they don’t use it. Instead, whatever comes along to consume the body uses it (whether that’s fire or decomposition or whatever). There have been many, surprisingly callous, attempts to measure a drop in energy and/or mass leaving the body at the so-called “moment of death”. However, these experiments have been vague and, much worse, unrepeatable. The most famous is the experiment by Dr. Duncan MacDougall in which, by putting patients dying of tuberculosis on giant scales, he found that those patients lost 21 grams on average between life and death. To be fair, homeboy had 6 data points (that is: people) and a lot of statistical noise, so his conclusions have about the same amount of statistical weight as “vaccines cause Autism“. To date, there are no confirmable experiments that show that anything special happens during death, other than a general “shutting down”. In particular, nothing that’s both “inspiring” and verifiable seems to suddenly leave the body when we die, materially or energetically. | |||
"Anybody care to discuss the meaning of why the universe is here?" Well it was supposed to be over there, but it was driven by a man who refused to stop and ask directions, so it's here. | |||
"Ok.. Do you think we go somewhere else after death? Yep! We're energy and energy can't be destroyed it turns in to something else Entropy. Eventually. Energy never dissipates merely transfers to another form
Physicist: Electrical energy is nothing special. Just like the chemical energy in our bodies, it breaks down into heat. For example, the heat given off by light bulbs (or electric heaters for that matter!) is a result of electrical energy. When electricity is flowing to a light bulb, that’s where the electrical energy is going; it’s turning into light. When you pull the plug (so to speak) what tiny, tiny amount of electrical energy there is in the wires runs out almost immediately.
The term “electrical energy” is actually a little vague. So, to be specific, in our nervous system there are tiny ion pumps that maintain an imbalance of charges between the inside and outside of the nerve cells. When a nerve cell fires, charges are allowed to suddenly flow through the cell membrane in a process called an “action potential“. The way electricity flows along nerve cells is different from the way it flows down a telegraph wire (“inside-to-outside” instead of “along”), but whatever. The point is, there are mechanisms that maintain an imbalance of charge (which is electricity waiting to happen), and that imbalance is drained a little bit every time the nerve fires.
Death (excluding spectacular deaths) isn’t instantaneous. In fact, what with medical science, it’s become more and more difficult to even define when people are dead. Time was you could define death as being a lack of heart beat, but people have come back from worse (by that metric, Dick Cheney has been dead for a while). Death is more of a break-down of the whole system, as opposed to a sudden event. The heart stops doing whatever hearts do when they’re not loving, oxygen and nutrients stop going where they’re needed, and in short order the nerve cells in the body lose the wherewithal to pump ions. Like batteries that are no longer being recharged, they run down. Nothing special. Like every kind of energy, whether electrical, kinetic, sonic, or sports fever, the electrical potential in the body eventually becomes heat energy (it’s an entropy thing).
The energy we “carry around” takes the form of chemical energy like fats and sugars. When our nervous system creates electrical energy we lose an equal amount of chemical energy. So, rather than being energy itself, life is all about moving energy around from one form to another.
What this question is clearly really about is the fact that it seems as though there’s a fundamental difference between animate and inanimate people. Admittedly, dead folk are a hair less energetic than living people (with some exceptions). There are a few kinds of energy (surprisingly few), but spiritual energy doesn’t seem to be one of them. In terms of physical energy, the difference between a living body and a very recently dead body is just a question of how that energy is being organized. Living critters in general are very good at using chemical energy for things like moving, growing, etc. Newly dead critters have about the same amount of chemical energy, it’s just that they don’t use it. Instead, whatever comes along to consume the body uses it (whether that’s fire or decomposition or whatever).
There have been many, surprisingly callous, attempts to measure a drop in energy and/or mass leaving the body at the so-called “moment of death”. However, these experiments have been vague and, much worse, unrepeatable. The most famous is the experiment by Dr. Duncan MacDougall in which, by putting patients dying of tuberculosis on giant scales, he found that those patients lost 21 grams on average between life and death. To be fair, homeboy had 6 data points (that is: people) and a lot of statistical noise, so his conclusions have about the same amount of statistical weight as “vaccines cause Autism“. To date, there are no confirmable experiments that show that anything special happens during death, other than a general “shutting down”. In particular, nothing that’s both “inspiring” and verifiable seems to suddenly leave the body when we die, materially or energetically."Every single action has a reaction regardless of perceived loss it's still transferred into another form of energy energy is not limited to electrical or heat | |||
"'Meaning' is a human creation. There's no such thing as meaning in the way we percieve it without a human there to do the perceiving. The question presupposes that a human invention or creation can be used to 'explain' everything....I don't think so. Perhaps but there's always a reason even if that reason is an ancient, by design etc inescapably always a reason "You're assuming that and it's a very big assumption. The truth is that we don't know. We don't even know what is right in front of our eyes right now because we just feed off electrical pulses and create how we make some sense of this chaos. We already know that there's no such thing as solid matter! | |||
"Death is more of a break-down of the whole system, as opposed to a sudden event. The heart stops doing whatever hearts do when they’re not loving, oxygen and nutrients stop going where they’re needed, and in short order the nerve cells in the body lose the wherewithal to pump ions. Like batteries that are no longer being recharged, they run down. Nothing special. Like every kind of energy, whether electrical, kinetic, sonic, or sports fever, the electrical potential in the body eventually becomes heat energy (it’s an entropy thing). The energy we “carry around” takes the form of chemical energy like fats and sugars. When our nervous system creates electrical energy we lose an equal amount of chemical energy. So, rather than being energy itself, life is all about moving energy around from one form to another. the difference between a living body and a very recently dead body is just a question of how that energy is being organized. Living critters in general are very good at using chemical energy for things like moving, growing, etc. Newly dead critters have about the same amount of chemical energy, it’s just that they don’t use it. Instead, whatever comes along to consume the body uses it (whether that’s fire or decomposition or whatever). Every single action has a reaction regardless of perceived loss it's still transferred into another form of energy energy is not limited to electrical or heat "this basically though, the energy is still there but not being used for life. and once it's been used up it's gone. | |||
"'Meaning' is a human creation. There's no such thing as meaning in the way we percieve it without a human there to do the perceiving. The question presupposes that a human invention or creation can be used to 'explain' everything....I don't think so. Perhaps but there's always a reason even if that reason is an ancient, by design etc inescapably always a reason
You're assuming that and it's a very big assumption. The truth is that we don't know.
We don't even know what is right in front of our eyes right now because we just feed off electrical pulses and create how we make some sense of this chaos.
We already know that there's no such thing as solid matter!"Still there's a reason behind every single thing regardless of perspective or reality simply not understanding doesn't negate the undeniable fact there's always a reason we just don't always know it | |||
"Death is more of a break-down of the whole system, as opposed to a sudden event. The heart stops doing whatever hearts do when they’re not loving, oxygen and nutrients stop going where they’re needed, and in short order the nerve cells in the body lose the wherewithal to pump ions. Like batteries that are no longer being recharged, they run down. Nothing special. Like every kind of energy, whether electrical, kinetic, sonic, or sports fever, the electrical potential in the body eventually becomes heat energy (it’s an entropy thing). The energy we “carry around” takes the form of chemical energy like fats and sugars. When our nervous system creates electrical energy we lose an equal amount of chemical energy. So, rather than being energy itself, life is all about moving energy around from one form to another. the difference between a living body and a very recently dead body is just a question of how that energy is being organized. Living critters in general are very good at using chemical energy for things like moving, growing, etc. Newly dead critters have about the same amount of chemical energy, it’s just that they don’t use it. Instead, whatever comes along to consume the body uses it (whether that’s fire or decomposition or whatever). Every single action has a reaction regardless of perceived loss it's still transferred into another form of energy energy is not limited to electrical or heat
this basically though, the energy is still there but not being used for life. and once it's been used up it's gone."That wasn't in dispute just that energy simply doesn't die or disappear - Energy is neither created nor destroyed BUT this is not complete. The complete law is, Energy can neither be created nor be destroyed but it can be transformed from one form to another. This is exactly what happens everywhere in the universe. E.g When we say we produce electricity, we are not exactly making it. | |||
"Every single action has a reaction regardless of perceived loss it's still transferred into another form of energy energy is not limited to electrical or heat "Well kind of, sort of but not quite really, Waves in the sea carry massive energy but the impact seldom leaves the beach. | |||
"Anybody care to discuss the meaning of why the universe is here?" If it wasnt here,where would it be,over there ?? | |||
"'Meaning' is a human creation. There's no such thing as meaning in the way we percieve it without a human there to do the perceiving. The question presupposes that a human invention or creation can be used to 'explain' everything....I don't think so. Perhaps but there's always a reason even if that reason is an ancient, by design etc inescapably always a reason
You're assuming that and it's a very big assumption. The truth is that we don't know.
We don't even know what is right in front of our eyes right now because we just feed off electrical pulses and create how we make some sense of this chaos.
We already know that there's no such thing as solid matter!
Still there's a reason behind every single thing regardless of perspective or reality simply not understanding doesn't negate the undeniable fact there's always a reason we just don't always know it"You clearly have a closed mind. You say it's an undeniable fact. We do not know that there is a reason, why is that difficult for you to grasp? | |||
"Anybody care to discuss the meaning of why the universe is here? If it wasnt here,where would it be,over there ??" As I said, it was supposed to be over there, but it is here instead... Where is here? | |||
"Death is more of a break-down of the whole system, as opposed to a sudden event. The heart stops doing whatever hearts do when they’re not loving, oxygen and nutrients stop going where they’re needed, and in short order the nerve cells in the body lose the wherewithal to pump ions. Like batteries that are no longer being recharged, they run down. Nothing special. Like every kind of energy, whether electrical, kinetic, sonic, or sports fever, the electrical potential in the body eventually becomes heat energy (it’s an entropy thing). The energy we “carry around” takes the form of chemical energy like fats and sugars. When our nervous system creates electrical energy we lose an equal amount of chemical energy. So, rather than being energy itself, life is all about moving energy around from one form to another. the difference between a living body and a very recently dead body is just a question of how that energy is being organized. Living critters in general are very good at using chemical energy for things like moving, growing, etc. Newly dead critters have about the same amount of chemical energy, it’s just that they don’t use it. Instead, whatever comes along to consume the body uses it (whether that’s fire or decomposition or whatever). Every single action has a reaction regardless of perceived loss it's still transferred into another form of energy energy is not limited to electrical or heat
this basically though, the energy is still there but not being used for life. and once it's been used up it's gone.
That wasn't in dispute just that energy simply doesn't die or disappear -
Energy is neither created nor destroyed BUT this is not complete. The complete law is, Energy can neither be created nor be destroyed but it can be transformed from one form to another. This is exactly what happens everywhere in the universe. E.g When we say we produce electricity, we are not exactly making it."they have watches what run off our electricity. but we don't go somewhere else when we die, we stop using that energy and what we are composed of decomposes and something else uses that energy. we cease to exist, i think so anyway. if you go brain dead just for a while, or something affects your brain, you cease to be you also. lose memories, lose skills etc. i suppose as we're growing all the time we're also ceasing to be us (metaphorically) yet at the same time that new you just isn't the old you, so you're still you in a different form. but once you're dead you aren't a version of yourself at all. there's nothing left for you to be you...no brain impulses, no brain even. | |||
"Anybody care to discuss the meaning of why the universe is here? If it wasnt here,where would it be,over there ?? As I said, it was supposed to be over there, but it is here instead... Where is here?" Is God the 3rd Chuckle Brother ??? | |||
"Anybody care to discuss the meaning of why the universe is here? If it wasnt here,where would it be,over there ?? As I said, it was supposed to be over there, but it is here instead... Where is here? Is God the 3rd Chuckle Brother ???" If he is the 3rd, that would be proof positive that he wasn't the creator | |||
"'Meaning' is a human creation. There's no such thing as meaning in the way we percieve it without a human there to do the perceiving. The question presupposes that a human invention or creation can be used to 'explain' everything....I don't think so. Perhaps but there's always a reason even if that reason is an ancient, by design etc inescapably always a reason
You're assuming that and it's a very big assumption. The truth is that we don't know.
We don't even know what is right in front of our eyes right now because we just feed off electrical pulses and create how we make some sense of this chaos.
We already know that there's no such thing as solid matter!
Still there's a reason behind every single thing regardless of perspective or reality simply not understanding doesn't negate the undeniable fact there's always a reason we just don't always know it
You clearly have a closed mind. You say it's an undeniable fact. We do not know that there is a reason, why is that difficult for you to grasp?"It's quite simple really everything has an explanation ergo a reason, just because we don't k ow it that doesn't mean the reason isn't in existence, a reason is merely the why or wherefore it's not semantics but reality mathematical science dictates there is always a reason and absolutely everything is possible we just don't have all the answers to be able to articulate it
Do as you can see its really as open minded as is possible to be | |||
"Death is more of a break-down of the whole system, as opposed to a sudden event. The heart stops doing whatever hearts do when they’re not loving, oxygen and nutrients stop going where they’re needed, and in short order the nerve cells in the body lose the wherewithal to pump ions. Like batteries that are no longer being recharged, they run down. Nothing special. Like every kind of energy, whether electrical, kinetic, sonic, or sports fever, the electrical potential in the body eventually becomes heat energy (it’s an entropy thing). The energy we “carry around” takes the form of chemical energy like fats and sugars. When our nervous system creates electrical energy we lose an equal amount of chemical energy. So, rather than being energy itself, life is all about moving energy around from one form to another. the difference between a living body and a very recently dead body is just a question of how that energy is being organized. Living critters in general are very good at using chemical energy for things like moving, growing, etc. Newly dead critters have about the same amount of chemical energy, it’s just that they don’t use it. Instead, whatever comes along to consume the body uses it (whether that’s fire or decomposition or whatever). Every single action has a reaction regardless of perceived loss it's still transferred into another form of energy energy is not limited to electrical or heat
this basically though, the energy is still there but not being used for life. and once it's been used up it's gone.
That wasn't in dispute just that energy simply doesn't die or disappear -
Energy is neither created nor destroyed BUT this is not complete. The complete law is, Energy can neither be created nor be destroyed but it can be transformed from one form to another. This is exactly what happens everywhere in the universe. E.g When we say we produce electricity, we are not exactly making it.
they have watches what run off our electricity.
but we don't go somewhere else when we die, we stop using that energy and what we are composed of decomposes and something else uses that energy. we cease to exist, i think so anyway.
if you go brain dead just for a while, or something affects your brain, you cease to be you also. lose memories, lose skills etc. i suppose as we're growing all the time we're also ceasing to be us (metaphorically) yet at the same time that new you just isn't the old you, so you're still you in a different form.
but once you're dead you aren't a version of yourself at all. there's nothing left for you to be you...no brain impulses, no brain even.
"In physics, the law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant—it is said to be conserved over time.[1] Energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it transforms from one form to another. As you can see the physical nature of the human may be termed as dead but the energy nonetheless is constant just transferred  | |||
"Anybody care to discuss the meaning of why the universe is here? If it wasnt here,where would it be,over there ?? As I said, it was supposed to be over there, but it is here instead... Where is here? Is God the 3rd Chuckle Brother ???" | |||
"Anybody care to discuss the meaning of why the universe is here? If it wasnt here,where would it be,over there ?? As I said, it was supposed to be over there, but it is here instead... Where is here? Is God the 3rd Chuckle Brother ??? If he is the 3rd, that would be proof positive that he wasn't the creator "Ooooo | |||
"In physics, the law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant—it is said to be conserved over time.[1] Energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it transforms from one form to another. As you can see the physical nature of the human may be termed as dead but the energy nonetheless is constant just transferred "i'm struggling with physics, can't even understand newtons law despite finding a really good teacher who i can understand. what's the isolated system here? the dead body? | |||
"'Meaning' is a human creation. There's no such thing as meaning in the way we percieve it without a human there to do the perceiving. The question presupposes that a human invention or creation can be used to 'explain' everything....I don't think so. Perhaps but there's always a reason even if that reason is an ancient, by design etc inescapably always a reason
You're assuming that and it's a very big assumption. The truth is that we don't know.
We don't even know what is right in front of our eyes right now because we just feed off electrical pulses and create how we make some sense of this chaos.
We already know that there's no such thing as solid matter!
Still there's a reason behind every single thing regardless of perspective or reality simply not understanding doesn't negate the undeniable fact there's always a reason we just don't always know it
You clearly have a closed mind. You say it's an undeniable fact. We do not know that there is a reason, why is that difficult for you to grasp?
It's quite simple really everything has an explanation ergo a reason, just because we don't k ow it that doesn't mean the reason isn't in existence, a reason is merely the why or wherefore it's not semantics but reality mathematical science dictates there is always a reason and absolutely everything is possible we just don't have all the answers to be able to articulate it
Do as you can see its really as open minded as is possible to be "No it isn't as open minded as you think because you stubbornly assert in the definitive that everything has an explanation, reason or meaning. Just because we have been able to use the human tool of reason to explain some of what we percieve to be our physical surroundings doesn't mean that therefore everything has reason. That my friend is a leap of faith, you're pushing your belief. | |||
"'Meaning' is a human creation. There's no such thing as meaning in the way we percieve it without a human there to do the perceiving. The question presupposes that a human invention or creation can be used to 'explain' everything....I don't think so. Perhaps but there's always a reason even if that reason is an ancient, by design etc inescapably always a reason
You're assuming that and it's a very big assumption. The truth is that we don't know.
We don't even know what is right in front of our eyes right now because we just feed off electrical pulses and create how we make some sense of this chaos.
We already know that there's no such thing as solid matter!
Still there's a reason behind every single thing regardless of perspective or reality simply not understanding doesn't negate the undeniable fact there's always a reason we just don't always know it
You clearly have a closed mind. You say it's an undeniable fact. We do not know that there is a reason, why is that difficult for you to grasp?
It's quite simple really everything has an explanation ergo a reason, just because we don't k ow it that doesn't mean the reason isn't in existence, a reason is merely the why or wherefore it's not semantics but reality mathematical science dictates there is always a reason and absolutely everything is possible we just don't have all the answers to be able to articulate it
Do as you can see its really as open minded as is possible to be
No it isn't as open minded as you think because you stubbornly assert in the definitive that everything has an explanation, reason or meaning.
Just because we have been able to use the human tool of reason to explain some of what we percieve to be our physical surroundings doesn't mean that therefore everything has reason.
That my friend is a leap of faith, you're pushing your belief."Not a leap of faith but a matter of fact its extremely naive to try and say not everything has a reason/explanation purely because you can't personally quantify it
There's a subtle difference between being a reason, or having reason but very good try with your stubborn assertion using semantics | |||
"In physics, the law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant—it is said to be conserved over time.[1] Energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it transforms from one form to another. As you can see the physical nature of the human may be termed as dead but the energy nonetheless is constant just transferred
i'm struggling with physics, can't even understand newtons law despite finding a really good teacher who i can understand.
what's the isolated system here? the dead body?
"The entire universe, meaning everything there is, including things we cannot see, is an isolated system because it has no "surroundings"; it's literally everything there is. Obviously, a system cannot exchange energy or matter with "surroundings" that do not exist. Hope this helps | |||
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"I do love a good debate "Especially when there is a lot of people involved? | |||
"In physics, the law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant—it is said to be conserved over time.[1] Energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it transforms from one form to another. As you can see the physical nature of the human may be termed as dead but the energy nonetheless is constant just transferred
i'm struggling with physics, can't even understand newtons law despite finding a really good teacher who i can understand.
what's the isolated system here? the dead body?
The entire universe, meaning everything there is, including things we cannot see, is an isolated system because it has no "surroundings"; it's literally everything there is. Obviously, a system cannot exchange energy or matter with "surroundings" that do not exist.
Hope this helps "in the teeny tiniest way, yes it does. | |||
"Every efect having a cause, is a fact I may accept, but to me having a reason indicates everything is planned to some purpose. That I don't belive to be true. " Not in this context no it simply states there's an explanation whether we know it or not, that's not an assertion of destiny merely an explanation albeit we may not know said explanation | |||
"I do love a good debate
Especially when there is a lot of people involved? "One many either way just do love a good debate | |||
"In physics, the law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant—it is said to be conserved over time.[1] Energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it transforms from one form to another. As you can see the physical nature of the human may be termed as dead but the energy nonetheless is constant just transferred
i'm struggling with physics, can't even understand newtons law despite finding a really good teacher who i can understand.
what's the isolated system here? the dead body?
The entire universe, meaning everything there is, including things we cannot see, is an isolated system because it has no "surroundings"; it's literally everything there is. Obviously, a system cannot exchange energy or matter with "surroundings" that do not exist.
Hope this helps
in the teeny tiniest way, yes it does."Awesome I accept your teeny tiny capitulation | |||
"I do love a good debate
Especially when there is a lot of people involved? "And yes I ignored the obvious there | |||
"'Meaning' is a human creation. There's no such thing as meaning in the way we percieve it without a human there to do the perceiving. The question presupposes that a human invention or creation can be used to 'explain' everything....I don't think so. Perhaps but there's always a reason even if that reason is an ancient, by design etc inescapably always a reason
You're assuming that and it's a very big assumption. The truth is that we don't know.
We don't even know what is right in front of our eyes right now because we just feed off electrical pulses and create how we make some sense of this chaos.
We already know that there's no such thing as solid matter!
Still there's a reason behind every single thing regardless of perspective or reality simply not understanding doesn't negate the undeniable fact there's always a reason we just don't always know it
You clearly have a closed mind. You say it's an undeniable fact. We do not know that there is a reason, why is that difficult for you to grasp?
It's quite simple really everything has an explanation ergo a reason, just because we don't k ow it that doesn't mean the reason isn't in existence, a reason is merely the why or wherefore it's not semantics but reality mathematical science dictates there is always a reason and absolutely everything is possible we just don't have all the answers to be able to articulate it
Do as you can see its really as open minded as is possible to be
No it isn't as open minded as you think because you stubbornly assert in the definitive that everything has an explanation, reason or meaning.
Just because we have been able to use the human tool of reason to explain some of what we percieve to be our physical surroundings doesn't mean that therefore everything has reason.
That my friend is a leap of faith, you're pushing your belief.
Not a leap of faith but a matter of fact its extremely naive to try and say not everything has a reason/explanation purely because you can't personally quantify it
There's a subtle difference between being a reason, or having reason but very good try with your stubborn assertion using semantics "There you go again stating that it is fact. I don't know your level of education (and don't want to) but my scientific background over many years does not leave me with the closed mind you demonstrate in your posts. We know so little and there is simply no conclusive evidence that everything has reason. We cannot say that something we do not know is a fact. That's what religions do. Cutting edge physics is going through an amazing period at the moment, the questions being asked of what we thought we knew are mind blowing. | |||
"In physics, the law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant—it is said to be conserved over time.[1] Energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it transforms from one form to another. As you can see the physical nature of the human may be termed as dead but the energy nonetheless is constant just transferred
i'm struggling with physics, can't even understand newtons law despite finding a really good teacher who i can understand.
what's the isolated system here? the dead body?
The entire universe, meaning everything there is, including things we cannot see, is an isolated system because it has no "surroundings"; it's literally everything there is. Obviously, a system cannot exchange energy or matter with "surroundings" that do not exist.
Hope this helps
in the teeny tiniest way, yes it does.
Awesome I accept your teeny tiny capitulation "it basically backs up what i said about the energy, and i got that from the physicists anyway coz he explained it better, but it doesn't explain how 'we' go somewhere else after death. although if you believe in reincarnation maybe it's true. i don't though. | |||
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"'Meaning' is a human creation. There's no such thing as meaning in the way we percieve it without a human there to do the perceiving. The question presupposes that a human invention or creation can be used to 'explain' everything....I don't think so. Perhaps but there's always a reason even if that reason is an ancient, by design etc inescapably always a reason
You're assuming that and it's a very big assumption. The truth is that we don't know.
We don't even know what is right in front of our eyes right now because we just feed off electrical pulses and create how we make some sense of this chaos.
We already know that there's no such thing as solid matter!
Still there's a reason behind every single thing regardless of perspective or reality simply not understanding doesn't negate the undeniable fact there's always a reason we just don't always know it
You clearly have a closed mind. You say it's an undeniable fact. We do not know that there is a reason, why is that difficult for you to grasp?
It's quite simple really everything has an explanation ergo a reason, just because we don't k ow it that doesn't mean the reason isn't in existence, a reason is merely the why or wherefore it's not semantics but reality mathematical science dictates there is always a reason and absolutely everything is possible we just don't have all the answers to be able to articulate it
Do as you can see its really as open minded as is possible to be
No it isn't as open minded as you think because you stubbornly assert in the definitive that everything has an explanation, reason or meaning.
Just because we have been able to use the human tool of reason to explain some of what we percieve to be our physical surroundings doesn't mean that therefore everything has reason.
That my friend is a leap of faith, you're pushing your belief.
Not a leap of faith but a matter of fact its extremely naive to try and say not everything has a reason/explanation purely because you can't personally quantify it
There's a subtle difference between being a reason, or having reason but very good try with your stubborn assertion using semantics
There you go again stating that it is fact. I don't know your level of education (and don't want to) but my scientific background over many years does not leave me with the closed mind you demonstrate in your posts. We know so little and there is simply no conclusive evidence that everything has reason. We cannot say that something we do not know is a fact. That's what religions do.
Cutting edge physics is going through an amazing period at the moment, the questions being asked of what we thought we knew are mind blowing. "Yes there you go again with semantics  simply not understanding or knowing why something is certainly doesn't negate the simple yet obvious fact that it is! If something is then there's clearly a reason that "it is" ergo there will be a specific reason that "it is" also that "it is so" perhaps there may be no "rhyme nor reason" known but if you are a scientific person you must know thus though eh as science is merely the study of things in a controlled manner to learn! The very fact that exists is testament to the very fact there's an answer to everything it just needs understanding first!
My earlier mentor as certified genius and respected mathematician gave me an excellent perspective on this and it's most definitely not linked to religion but logic the core of science
So semantics aside faith aside there's an answer (reason) that absolutely everything is otherwise science wouldn't exist and we woukd simply believe everything just is no reason just is therefore science woukd be moot, negated do your assertion is semantics at best and illogical at worst which delves into the theological and arena of religion
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"In physics, the law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant—it is said to be conserved over time.[1] Energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it transforms from one form to another. As you can see the physical nature of the human may be termed as dead but the energy nonetheless is constant just transferred
i'm struggling with physics, can't even understand newtons law despite finding a really good teacher who i can understand.
what's the isolated system here? the dead body?
The entire universe, meaning everything there is, including things we cannot see, is an isolated system because it has no "surroundings"; it's literally everything there is. Obviously, a system cannot exchange energy or matter with "surroundings" that do not exist.
Hope this helps
in the teeny tiniest way, yes it does.
Awesome I accept your teeny tiny capitulation
it basically backs up what i said about the energy, and i got that from the physicists anyway coz he explained it better, but it doesn't explain how 'we' go somewhere else after death.
although if you believe in reincarnation maybe it's true. i don't though."Not reincarnation just the knowledge that the universe as a closed system as we currently understand it means energy does not disappear or dissipate it merely transfers and transforms into another form, we just font understand the why yet or reason! Wow back to that eh hehe there's always a reason why something is, that in no way insists design as some try to assert merely there's always a why it just needs understanding | |||
"actually i can't really discuss anything about this, except for hypothetically of course, because nobody knows what consciousness is exactly." Consciousness is an entirely separate debate and extremely interesting too | |||
"We'd look pretty silly if the universe wasn't here " being part of the closed system that comprises the universe we wouldn't be around to look anything | |||
"Or in the words of Eccles .. everybody gotta be somewhere "Hehee like this | |||
"'Meaning' is a human creation. There's no such thing as meaning in the way we percieve it without a human there to do the perceiving. The question presupposes that a human invention or creation can be used to 'explain' everything....I don't think so. Perhaps but there's always a reason even if that reason is an ancient, by design etc inescapably always a reason
You're assuming that and it's a very big assumption. The truth is that we don't know.
We don't even know what is right in front of our eyes right now because we just feed off electrical pulses and create how we make some sense of this chaos.
We already know that there's no such thing as solid matter!
Still there's a reason behind every single thing regardless of perspective or reality simply not understanding doesn't negate the undeniable fact there's always a reason we just don't always know it
You clearly have a closed mind. You say it's an undeniable fact. We do not know that there is a reason, why is that difficult for you to grasp?
It's quite simple really everything has an explanation ergo a reason, just because we don't k ow it that doesn't mean the reason isn't in existence, a reason is merely the why or wherefore it's not semantics but reality mathematical science dictates there is always a reason and absolutely everything is possible we just don't have all the answers to be able to articulate it
Do as you can see its really as open minded as is possible to be
No it isn't as open minded as you think because you stubbornly assert in the definitive that everything has an explanation, reason or meaning.
Just because we have been able to use the human tool of reason to explain some of what we percieve to be our physical surroundings doesn't mean that therefore everything has reason.
That my friend is a leap of faith, you're pushing your belief.
Not a leap of faith but a matter of fact its extremely naive to try and say not everything has a reason/explanation purely because you can't personally quantify it
There's a subtle difference between being a reason, or having reason but very good try with your stubborn assertion using semantics
There you go again stating that it is fact. I don't know your level of education (and don't want to) but my scientific background over many years does not leave me with the closed mind you demonstrate in your posts. We know so little and there is simply no conclusive evidence that everything has reason. We cannot say that something we do not know is a fact. That's what religions do.
Cutting edge physics is going through an amazing period at the moment, the questions being asked of what we thought we knew are mind blowing.
Yes there you go again with semantics simply not understanding or knowing why something is certainly doesn't negate the simple yet obvious fact that it is! If something is then there's clearly a reason that "it is" ergo there will be a specific reason that "it is" also that "it is so" perhaps there may be no "rhyme nor reason" known but if you are a scientific person you must know thus though eh as science is merely the study of things in a controlled manner to learn! The very fact that exists is testament to the very fact there's an answer to everything it just needs understanding first!
My earlier mentor as certified genius and respected mathematician gave me an excellent perspective on this and it's most definitely not linked to religion but logic the core of science
So semantics aside faith aside there's an answer (reason) that absolutely everything is otherwise science wouldn't exist and we woukd simply believe everything just is no reason just is therefore science woukd be moot, negated do your assertion is semantics at best and illogical at worst which delves into the theological and arena of religion
"As for the questions being asked of science they have always been mind blowing in their eras the biggest and most fascinating fact in science is that physics as it's known is flawed, the general theory of relativity and quantums prove the with their lack if harmony and the search for an all in one answer continues, to try and deny this would undoubtedly show a lack of understanding on your part, the greatest minds in science will admit there's flaws as it's understood, of course where and why is eternally disputed between physicists and mathematicians as each camp have differing issues with differing results, fascinating stuff and sometimes can seem mind-blowing if perception thrown off | |||
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"Ask Siri " or Google | |||
"In physics, the law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant—it is said to be conserved over time.[1] Energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it transforms from one form to another. As you can see the physical nature of the human may be termed as dead but the energy nonetheless is constant just transferred
i'm struggling with physics, can't even understand newtons law despite finding a really good teacher who i can understand.
what's the isolated system here? the dead body?
The entire universe, meaning everything there is, including things we cannot see, is an isolated system because it has no "surroundings"; it's literally everything there is. Obviously, a system cannot exchange energy or matter with "surroundings" that do not exist.
Hope this helps
in the teeny tiniest way, yes it does.
Awesome I accept your teeny tiny capitulation
it basically backs up what i said about the energy, and i got that from the physicists anyway coz he explained it better, but it doesn't explain how 'we' go somewhere else after death.
although if you believe in reincarnation maybe it's true. i don't though.
Not reincarnation just the knowledge that the universe as a closed system as we currently understand it means energy does not disappear or dissipate it merely transfers and transforms into another form, we just font understand the why yet or reason! Wow back to that eh hehe there's always a reason why something is, that in no way insists design as some try to assert merely there's always a why it just needs understanding "consciousness isn't a separate debate from this, it's what we are debating.
nobody knows if consciousness is energy, nobody knows what it is exactly and only that it comes from electrical and chemical reactions based on our perceptions of our environment, our neurological system.
the consciousness probably isn't matter because nobody has detected what/where it is.
although we'll probably find out some more about it when that guy has the head transplant later on this year. | |||
"In physics, the law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant—it is said to be conserved over time.[1] Energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it transforms from one form to another. As you can see the physical nature of the human may be termed as dead but the energy nonetheless is constant just transferred
i'm struggling with physics, can't even understand newtons law despite finding a really good teacher who i can understand.
what's the isolated system here? the dead body?
The entire universe, meaning everything there is, including things we cannot see, is an isolated system because it has no "surroundings"; it's literally everything there is. Obviously, a system cannot exchange energy or matter with "surroundings" that do not exist.
Hope this helps
in the teeny tiniest way, yes it does.
Awesome I accept your teeny tiny capitulation
it basically backs up what i said about the energy, and i got that from the physicists anyway coz he explained it better, but it doesn't explain how 'we' go somewhere else after death.
although if you believe in reincarnation maybe it's true. i don't though.
Not reincarnation just the knowledge that the universe as a closed system as we currently understand it means energy does not disappear or dissipate it merely transfers and transforms into another form, we just font understand the why yet or reason! Wow back to that eh hehe there's always a reason why something is, that in no way insists design as some try to assert merely there's always a why it just needs understanding
consciousness isn't a separate debate from this, it's what we are debating.
nobody knows if consciousness is energy, nobody knows what it is exactly and only that it comes from electrical and chemical reactions based on our perceptions of our environment, our neurological system.
the consciousness probably isn't matter because nobody has detected what/where it is.
although we'll probably find out some more about it when that guy has the head transplant later on this year."Actually this is and was the general debate as set out which I was being relevant about - Anybody care to discuss the meaning of why the universe is here? As for the consciousness issue, yes very very interesting I for one look forward to further analysis based info regarding this myself indeed, certain aspects of consciousness currently are accepted as innate and reactionary intrinsic to survival, however if the universe can become simply from the perfect storm of events I would imagine so could consciousness potentially too | |||
"In physics, the law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant—it is said to be conserved over time.[1] Energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it transforms from one form to another. As you can see the physical nature of the human may be termed as dead but the energy nonetheless is constant just transferred
i'm struggling with physics, can't even understand newtons law despite finding a really good teacher who i can understand.
what's the isolated system here? the dead body?
The entire universe, meaning everything there is, including things we cannot see, is an isolated system because it has no "surroundings"; it's literally everything there is. Obviously, a system cannot exchange energy or matter with "surroundings" that do not exist.
Hope this helps
in the teeny tiniest way, yes it does.
Awesome I accept your teeny tiny capitulation
it basically backs up what i said about the energy, and i got that from the physicists anyway coz he explained it better, but it doesn't explain how 'we' go somewhere else after death.
although if you believe in reincarnation maybe it's true. i don't though.
Not reincarnation just the knowledge that the universe as a closed system as we currently understand it means energy does not disappear or dissipate it merely transfers and transforms into another form, we just font understand the why yet or reason! Wow back to that eh hehe there's always a reason why something is, that in no way insists design as some try to assert merely there's always a why it just needs understanding
consciousness isn't a separate debate from this, it's what we are debating.
nobody knows if consciousness is energy, nobody knows what it is exactly and only that it comes from electrical and chemical reactions based on our perceptions of our environment, our neurological system.
the consciousness probably isn't matter because nobody has detected what/where it is.
although we'll probably find out some more about it when that guy has the head transplant later on this year.
Actually this is and was the general debate as set out which I was being relevant about -
Anybody care to discuss the meaning of why the universe is here?
As for the consciousness issue, yes very very interesting I for one look forward to further analysis based info regarding this myself indeed, certain aspects of consciousness currently are accepted as innate and reactionary intrinsic to survival, however if the universe can become simply from the perfect storm of events I would imagine so could consciousness potentially too"well we've been debating different things, how interesting.
see this is what i meant when i said we don't exist any more after we die. by we i meant our consciousness, and not the molecules that always exist. we're not molecules as far as i'm concerned because anything can be those, we are what makes us, us. the molecules and impulses just help us become who we are.
if we were just talking about what exists physically i probably would have said it's interesting how so many different things exist and how we evolved but not said much more than that really. physically there doesn't seem to be any point to the universe except as a reason for us to expand our consciousness. | |||
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"In physics, the law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant—it is said to be conserved over time.[1] Energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it transforms from one form to another. As you can see the physical nature of the human may be termed as dead but the energy nonetheless is constant just transferred
i'm struggling with physics, can't even understand newtons law despite finding a really good teacher who i can understand.
what's the isolated system here? the dead body?
The entire universe, meaning everything there is, including things we cannot see, is an isolated system because it has no "surroundings"; it's literally everything there is. Obviously, a system cannot exchange energy or matter with "surroundings" that do not exist.
Hope this helps
in the teeny tiniest way, yes it does.
Awesome I accept your teeny tiny capitulation
it basically backs up what i said about the energy, and i got that from the physicists anyway coz he explained it better, but it doesn't explain how 'we' go somewhere else after death.
although if you believe in reincarnation maybe it's true. i don't though.
Not reincarnation just the knowledge that the universe as a closed system as we currently understand it means energy does not disappear or dissipate it merely transfers and transforms into another form, we just font understand the why yet or reason! Wow back to that eh hehe there's always a reason why something is, that in no way insists design as some try to assert merely there's always a why it just needs understanding
consciousness isn't a separate debate from this, it's what we are debating.
nobody knows if consciousness is energy, nobody knows what it is exactly and only that it comes from electrical and chemical reactions based on our perceptions of our environment, our neurological system.
the consciousness probably isn't matter because nobody has detected what/where it is.
although we'll probably find out some more about it when that guy has the head transplant later on this year.
Actually this is and was the general debate as set out which I was being relevant about -
Anybody care to discuss the meaning of why the universe is here?
As for the consciousness issue, yes very very interesting I for one look forward to further analysis based info regarding this myself indeed, certain aspects of consciousness currently are accepted as innate and reactionary intrinsic to survival, however if the universe can become simply from the perfect storm of events I would imagine so could consciousness potentially too
well we've been debating different things, how interesting.
see this is what i meant when i said we don't exist any more after we die. by we i meant our consciousness, and not the molecules that always exist. we're not molecules as far as i'm concerned because anything can be those, we are what makes us, us. the molecules and impulses just help us become who we are.
if we were just talking about what exists physically i probably would have said it's interesting how so many different things exist and how we evolved but not said much more than that really. physically there doesn't seem to be any point to the universe except as a reason for us to expand our consciousness."Absolutely and it almost fitted too hehe
Is consciousness corporeal in a sense or etheric?
By definition as it's described it's easy to assume but as you have highlighted oftentimes these seemingly set in stone ideas and definitions can be blown wide open and redefined!
I have actually really enjoyed our conversation thank you | |||
"Really don't want to requote all that for 2 words... You said perfect storm, I prefer imperfect storm. The universe is infinite, therfore contains infinite possibilities, One of those possibilities is theoretical physics, which is a fascinating branch of science that works mostly in pure mathematical form. But the kicker is we don't know where the center of the universe is, nor where we are in it, and there are no edges. To compare that to the good old maths exam train question, they are trying to work out "at some unknown time something left somewhere, and travelled at unknown speed to an unknown location, what time did it arrive? And did it stop at Didcot parkway?" " I do understand what your saying I meant perfect storm in as much as to allow seemingly Impossible things to simply occur without design or conscious direction, in a sense the very imperfect nature of everything is what makes it perfect though isn't it? | |||
"Really don't want to requote all that for 2 words... You said perfect storm, I prefer imperfect storm. The universe is infinite, therfore contains infinite possibilities, One of those possibilities is theoretical physics, which is a fascinating branch of science that works mostly in pure mathematical form. But the kicker is we don't know where the center of the universe is, nor where we are in it, and there are no edges. To compare that to the good old maths exam train question, they are trying to work out "at some unknown time something left somewhere, and travelled at unknown speed to an unknown location, what time did it arrive? And did it stop at Didcot parkway?" I do understand what your saying I meant perfect storm in as much as to allow seemingly Impossible things to simply occur without design or conscious direction, in a sense the very imperfect nature of everything is what makes it perfect though isn't it? " Yes it is perfectly imperfect
One facet that really gets my attention is as we are able to see smaller things, the structure of an atom is remarkably similar to the structure of a solar system, so could what we see as a universe be a molecule in some other universe? | |||
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"Really don't want to requote all that for 2 words... You said perfect storm, I prefer imperfect storm. The universe is infinite, therfore contains infinite possibilities, One of those possibilities is theoretical physics, which is a fascinating branch of science that works mostly in pure mathematical form. But the kicker is we don't know where the center of the universe is, nor where we are in it, and there are no edges. To compare that to the good old maths exam train question, they are trying to work out "at some unknown time something left somewhere, and travelled at unknown speed to an unknown location, what time did it arrive? And did it stop at Didcot parkway?" I do understand what your saying I meant perfect storm in as much as to allow seemingly Impossible things to simply occur without design or conscious direction, in a sense the very imperfect nature of everything is what makes it perfect though isn't it? Yes it is perfectly imperfect
One facet that really gets my attention is as we are able to see smaller things, the structure of an atom is remarkably similar to the structure of a solar system, so could what we see as a universe be a molecule in some other universe?"Aww man now your really talking
There's striking and interesting parallels in so very many ways, also I love the imperfectly perfect description always fascinated me
Are we the lice on another's head so to speak hehe | |||
"Alternatively, what is the structure of the higgs boson particle?" The higgs field and or particle is an extremely fascinating topic, can things really have/be matter without it? how can it have matter if it facilitates matter? Twin peaks great programme even better topic | |||
"Absolutely and it almost fitted too hehe
Is consciousness corporeal in a sense or etheric?
By definition as it's described it's easy to assume but as you have highlighted oftentimes these seemingly set in stone ideas and definitions can be blown wide open and redefined!
I have actually really enjoyed our conversation thank you "there's no proof it's etheric, but saying that there's no proof of it existing apart from we know it does exist. we do think it wouldn't exist, as it does, without a body to experience things. yeah it was alright, wish i'd known what we was talking about exactly though. | |||
"Absolutely and it almost fitted too hehe
Is consciousness corporeal in a sense or etheric?
By definition as it's described it's easy to assume but as you have highlighted oftentimes these seemingly set in stone ideas and definitions can be blown wide open and redefined!
I have actually really enjoyed our conversation thank you
there's no proof it's etheric, but saying that there's no proof of it existing apart from we know it does exist.
we do think it wouldn't exist, as it does, without a body to experience things.
yeah it was alright, wish i'd known what we was talking about exactly though. "These conundrums are exactly what brings science alive for me and inspires growth and progress in general sometimes
Ahh we got there in the end just like science usually does | |||
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"Perspective and perception, we are only capable of thinking inside the limit of our senses, even the best physics often falls down, by at some point of the calculation relying on a perceived constant. " Isn't it exciting though and paradoxical to know that percieved constant aka understanding of physics is known to be flawed
The truth is out there hehe | |||
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"Goethe said that 'The point of life is life'. Sufjan Stevens sang 'Make the most of your life, while it is rife, while it is light'. Dylan Thomas begged his father 'Do not go gentle into that good night, Rage, rage against the dying of the light'. Mortality shapes everything we are and do. We need meaning and purpose on an individual level, even if meaning in the universe eludes us. We are a part of everything and everyone. We are memory. We are love. " Ahh bravo the poetry part | |||
