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"Silver linings and all that...." yes for my heart not my blood pressure at the time  | |||
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"Hope you have recovered now." of coarse annoyance over nothing soon fades fast because it means nothing in the end except to annoy you at the time. just think it would be a real eye opener for the ladies especially the true sub girls to walk in my shoes for a minute or two . because don't believe all you read or here some girls can be just a mad and unhinged as some men in the online world are . | |||
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"Someone been watching too much of 50 shades? Haha" Yes not ne by the way for every wanabe make Dom there will be just as many wanabe subs . I have no problem with newbies who say there new to it but I have a teal problem with part time subs who try to dom from the bottom 
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"Don't sweat the small stuff OP. Dealing with guys ain't a piece of cake either but it's a website it's not a big deal. " I'm well aware of that fact I've walked more or less in the shoes of the ladies out there when years ago I used to organised blindfolded meets for a slaxe of mine at the time.
but i really do think it would do the world of good if a few sub girls could walk in my shoes for a week or so and see what i have t deal with it may give them a more understanding out look on why guys like me behave as we do online . | |||
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"Hope you have recovered now. of coarse annoyance over nothing soon fades fast because it means nothing in the end except to annoy you at the time. just think it would be a real eye opener for the ladies especially the true sub girls to walk in my shoes for a minute or two . because don't believe all you read or here some girls can be just a mad and unhinged as some men in the online world are . " I do know what it's like to be on both sides of the equation. | |||
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"Hope you have recovered now. of coarse annoyance over nothing soon fades fast because it means nothing in the end except to annoy you at the time. just think it would be a real eye opener for the ladies especially the true sub girls to walk in my shoes for a minute or two . because don't believe all you read or here some girls can be just a mad and unhinged as some men in the online world are . I do know what it's like to be on both sides of the equation. " then my words are not lost on you thank god sometimes I feel in talking to the wall of the unknowing on here xxx | |||
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"Hope you have recovered now. of coarse annoyance over nothing soon fades fast because it means nothing in the end except to annoy you at the time. just think it would be a real eye opener for the ladies especially the true sub girls to walk in my shoes for a minute or two . because don't believe all you read or here some girls can be just a mad and unhinged as some men in the online world are . I do know what it's like to be on both sides of the equation. then my words are not lost on you thank god sometimes I feel in talking to the wall of the unknowing on here xxx" I can identify with a lot of what you say on here  x | |||
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"Hope you have recovered now. of coarse annoyance over nothing soon fades fast because it means nothing in the end except to annoy you at the time. just think it would be a real eye opener for the ladies especially the true sub girls to walk in my shoes for a minute or two . because don't believe all you read or here some girls can be just a mad and unhinged as some men in the online world are . I do know what it's like to be on both sides of the equation. then my words are not lost on you thank god sometimes I feel in talking to the wall of the unknowing on here xxx I can identify with a lot of what you say on here x "ahh thank you such random words coming from a unknown such as yourself go along way with me xxx | |||
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"Hope you have recovered now. of coarse annoyance over nothing soon fades fast because it means nothing in the end except to annoy you at the time. just think it would be a real eye opener for the ladies especially the true sub girls to walk in my shoes for a minute or two . because don't believe all you read or here some girls can be just a mad and unhinged as some men in the online world are . I do know what it's like to be on both sides of the equation. then my words are not lost on you thank god sometimes I feel in talking to the wall of the unknowing on here xxx I can identify with a lot of what you say on here x
ahh thank you such random words coming from a unknown such as yourself go along way with me xxx"You are most welcome x | |||
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"I wouldn't dream of "topping from the bottom ", I'm too inexperienced a sub for that. I know from my Dom it's not an easy thing being a dom. Some women think it's all like the 50 shades lifestyle but there's a lot more to it. Pay no heed to people who don't know better. " thank you for these words I would have thank you yesterday but I was put on the naughty step . saw you had a meet today hope it went great  | |||
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"Fake wannabe subs on a swingers site.... Who'd of think it huh?! It's almost as if this isn't a BDSM specific site?! Of course this is all I have gleamed from the thread as it's a bit of a cryptic woe is me story. " specialist sites are no different in fact there worse in my humble opinion when it comes to wanabies | |||
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"I missed your update so don't know what happened but yes lots of wannabes on both sides of the fence "yes sadly there is and at times they can get right under ones skin | |||
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"I can honestly say we've met a myriad of epic kinky people on here and on fetish site that may not be named, no fakes and no wannabes. Maybe it's the fact that we have no expectations for anyone we meet, be it digitally or in face world. " or maybe there just not what I call real as there playing at being sub and dom only for a sexual kick .not the real thing by that I mean its not there core being just in there sexual make up to play at a little bit of spanking restraining with out true understanding of the truth of bdsm d/s and S&M. I have nothing against such people there just not going to work with me past a few playtimes which is not really what I'm after if I'm honest with myself . | |||
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"I can honestly say we've met a myriad of epic kinky people on here and on fetish site that may not be named, no fakes and no wannabes. Maybe it's the fact that we have no expectations for anyone we meet, be it digitally or in face world. or maybe there just not what I call real as there playing at being sub and dom only for a sexual kick .not the real thing by that I mean its not there core being just in there sexual make up to play at a little bit of spanking restraining with out true understanding of the truth of bdsm d/s and S&M. I have nothing against such people there just not going to work with me past a few playtimes which is not really what I'm after if I'm honest with myself ." I'm sorry but you don't get call people out as fake or time wasters because they don't have or want the same thing from the kink world as you do. That's genuinely Twue Dom behavior. Sure these disingenuous subs aren't compatible with you; but to claim they're wasting your time. I think this is pretty uncool. Why not enjoy what you have rather than get super defensive about the situations that didn't work out? | |||
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"I am having no luck what so ever any advice would be great "Sounds like you had a had a great meet recently. | |||
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"Is this about the woman sub who accused you of being fake because you left the ball in her court and didn't pester her for a meet?" bit more to it than that empress but yes that and submissives who are not submissives .very complicated and unless you can see the messages kind of pointless as only by seeing the messages could you understand why there not submissives at there core in my opinion a get called fake all the time its par for the coarse when you say no or you say no to a sex meet or even don't chase for a social after you say ok let me know a time and place your comfortable with and I will be there . | |||
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"I can honestly say we've met a myriad of epic kinky people on here and on fetish site that may not be named, no fakes and no wannabes. Maybe it's the fact that we have no expectations for anyone we meet, be it digitally or in face world. or maybe there just not what I call real as there playing at being sub and dom only for a sexual kick .not the real thing by that I mean its not there core being just in there sexual make up to play at a little bit of spanking restraining with out true understanding of the truth of bdsm d/s and S&M. I have nothing against such people there just not going to work with me past a few playtimes which is not really what I'm after if I'm honest with myself . I'm sorry but you don't get call people out as fake or time wasters because they don't have or want the same thing from the kink world as you do. That's genuinely Twue Dom behavior. Sure these disingenuous subs aren't compatible with you; but to claim they're wasting your time. I think this is pretty uncool. Why not enjoy what you have rather than get super defensive about the situations that didn't work out? " but there not true subs I have no interest in playing with someone who thinks kinky sex is what bdsm is about that's just a small part of it the real big part is mental not physical in my opinion it revolves around empowering both submissive and dominant. I have no interest in arguing with you on this subject trust me if you was privileged to my messages on other sites you would have a very different opinion of my words of that I'm sure . | |||
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"I can honestly say we've met a myriad of epic kinky people on here and on fetish site that may not be named, no fakes and no wannabes. Maybe it's the fact that we have no expectations for anyone we meet, be it digitally or in face world. or maybe there just not what I call real as there playing at being sub and dom only for a sexual kick .not the real thing by that I mean its not there core being just in there sexual make up to play at a little bit of spanking restraining with out true understanding of the truth of bdsm d/s and S&M. I have nothing against such people there just not going to work with me past a few playtimes which is not really what I'm after if I'm honest with myself . I'm sorry but you don't get call people out as fake or time wasters because they don't have or want the same thing from the kink world as you do. That's genuinely Twue Dom behavior. Sure these disingenuous subs aren't compatible with you; but to claim they're wasting your time. I think this is pretty uncool. Why not enjoy what you have rather than get super defensive about the situations that didn't work out? but there not true subs I have no interest in playing with someone who thinks kinky sex is what bdsm is about that's just a small part of it the real big part is mental not physical in my opinion it revolves around empowering both submissive and dominant. I have no interest in arguing with you on this subject trust me if you was privileged to my messages on other sites you would have a very different opinion of my words of that I'm sure ." Maybe this whole rant kind of proves you're not quite as good a dominant as you like to think you are? Submission to some is kinky sex, they're not compatible with you. They find their way to a dominant who's idea of BDSM is kinky sex and be happy. Stop judging and enjoy yourself because regardless how much of a true dominant you think you are we know two dozen who play and live it harder than you do. And do you know what they don't do? Belittle anyone else for not being as pure lifestyle as they are. | |||
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"I wouldn't dream of "topping from the bottom ", I'm too inexperienced a sub for that. I know from my Dom it's not an easy thing being a dom. Some women think it's all like the 50 shades lifestyle but there's a lot more to it. Pay no heed to people who don't know better. thank you for these words I would have thank you yesterday but I was put on the naughty step . saw you had a meet today hope it went great "You're welcome, oh such a naughty boy are you lol. Yes it went very well. Hopefully will get to see them again. | |||
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"I can honestly say we've met a myriad of epic kinky people on here and on fetish site that may not be named, no fakes and no wannabes. Maybe it's the fact that we have no expectations for anyone we meet, be it digitally or in face world. or maybe there just not what I call real as there playing at being sub and dom only for a sexual kick .not the real thing by that I mean its not there core being just in there sexual make up to play at a little bit of spanking restraining with out true understanding of the truth of bdsm d/s and S&M. I have nothing against such people there just not going to work with me past a few playtimes which is not really what I'm after if I'm honest with myself . I'm sorry but you don't get call people out as fake or time wasters because they don't have or want the same thing from the kink world as you do. That's genuinely Twue Dom behavior. Sure these disingenuous subs aren't compatible with you; but to claim they're wasting your time. I think this is pretty uncool. Why not enjoy what you have rather than get super defensive about the situations that didn't work out? but there not true subs I have no interest in playing with someone who thinks kinky sex is what bdsm is about that's just a small part of it the real big part is mental not physical in my opinion it revolves around empowering both submissive and dominant. I have no interest in arguing with you on this subject trust me if you was privileged to my messages on other sites you would have a very different opinion of my words of that I'm sure . Maybe this whole rant kind of proves you're not quite as good a dominant as you like to think you are? Submission to some is kinky sex, they're not compatible with you. They find their way to a dominant who's idea of BDSM is kinky sex and be happy. Stop judging and enjoy yourself because regardless how much of a true dominant you think you are we know two dozen who play and live it harder than you do. And do you know what they don't do? Belittle anyone else for not being as pure lifestyle as they are. " I have no problem with being turn down its not about what happens when I turn down which proves there no true submissive because in all my eyes only true submissives and dominants are respectful when there told thanks but no thanks . its part of growing up a sexual out cast your learn to respect others very early that includes there choices . but like the post title said you put 2 and 2 together and assume the wrong assumption which is par for the coarse and very predictable . | |||
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" the post title said you put 2 and 2 together and assume the wrong assumption which is par for the coarse and very predictable ." I seem to be with a true submissive (whatever the fuck that means) several friends are with true submissives and Dominants, so the question is, where are you going wrong? | |||
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" the post title said you put 2 and 2 together and assume the wrong assumption which is par for the coarse and very predictable . I seem to be with a true submissive (whatever the fuck that means) several friends are with true submissives and Dominants, so the question is, where are you going wrong? " I'm not going wrong I have three regular play partner used to be four but something happened broke my heart made me gun shy ,so for the last two years I've played with my other three partners. about a year ago I had a look around my heart wasn't in it left my profile dormant . about 6 months ago I came back looking for inspiration once more a canvas to express myself with but sadly I'm not being inspired by those I talk to apart from one on here if you reading this I'm glad your home works done 
I never turn when I'm turned down nor do I disrespect the disrespect is all one way towards me when I turn down invitations to play under terms unacceptable to me . | |||
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" the post title said you put 2 and 2 together and assume the wrong assumption which is par for the coarse and very predictable . I seem to be with a true submissive (whatever the fuck that means) several friends are with true submissives and Dominants, so the question is, where are you going wrong? I'm not going wrong I have three regular play partner used to be four but something happened broke my heart made me gun shy ,so for the last two years I've played with my other three partners. about a year ago I had a look around my heart wasn't in it left my profile dormant . about 6 months ago I came back looking for inspiration once more a canvas to express myself with but sadly I'm not being inspired by those I talk to apart from one on here if you reading this I'm glad your home works done
I never turn when I'm turned down nor do I disrespect the disrespect is all one way towards me when I turn down invitations to play under terms unacceptable to me . "This whole thread is disrespectful to anyone who chooses to practise BDSM in any way other than how you choose to practise it. And the worst part is that you can't see that above you're 'woe is me' whingefest. | |||
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" the post title said you put 2 and 2 together and assume the wrong assumption which is par for the coarse and very predictable . I seem to be with a true submissive (whatever the fuck that means) several friends are with true submissives and Dominants, so the question is, where are you going wrong? I'm not going wrong I have three regular play partner used to be four but something happened broke my heart made me gun shy ,so for the last two years I've played with my other three partners. about a year ago I had a look around my heart wasn't in it left my profile dormant . about 6 months ago I came back looking for inspiration once more a canvas to express myself with but sadly I'm not being inspired by those I talk to apart from one on here if you reading this I'm glad your home works done
I never turn when I'm turned down nor do I disrespect the disrespect is all one way towards me when I turn down invitations to play under terms unacceptable to me .
This whole thread is disrespectful to anyone who chooses to practise BDSM in any way other than how you choose to practise it. And the worst part is that you can't see that above you're 'woe is me' whingefest."in your opinion you do see the irony in berating me over my opinion and what's wrong with it while telling me why your opinion of me and my post is the correct opinion . seems to me you are far more emotional about the whole thing than me lets just agree to disagree like adults hay and leave it at that . after all I don't know you and you don't know me so my opinion of you is meaningless just like your opinion of me is meaningless . | |||
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"I have no real understanding about D/s business but sounds like it's some kind of superiority over others. Like if you aren't a Dom or Sub then whatever you do isn't serious or proper sex or whatever. " I'm sorry if my words make you think that but reading back I can see why you would think that . its about compatibility to many non submissive in the scene like there are to many dim doms as the subs like to call them leading to trouble when you turn down those you do due to incompatibility because to me there not the real deal . if I had a pound for every so called sub who said to me tell me what you plan on doing to me john I'd be rich the true question should ne what do you like john . | |||
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" if I had a pound for every so called sub who said to me tell me what you plan on doing to me john I'd be rich the true question should ne what do you like john ." If that's the tone of your first contact messages without having a social to confirm you are actually speaking to a woman I'd confidently bet that the 'women' you're chatting to are men! There aren't many if any women that will ask you straight up what you plan on doing to them, I'd guess that was a guy after wank fodder. Women sub or not but real women, ok correction, smart women don't engage in bollocks sex chat before establishing that they are chatting to the person in the pictures on the profile. | |||
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" in your opinion you do see the irony in berating me over my opinion and what's wrong with it while telling me why your opinion of me and my post is the correct opinion . seems to me you are far more emotional about the whole thing than me lets just agree to disagree like adults hay and leave it at that . after all I don't know you and you don't know me so my opinion of you is meaningless just like your opinion of me is meaningless . " My opinion is questioning you. Your opinion is attacking every sub or Dom that chooses to express BDSM differently. I am happy up here on my moral high ground. I do however truly believe you are a true expert on being able to identify a Dim Dom. | |||
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" if I had a pound for every so called sub who said to me tell me what you plan on doing to me john I'd be rich the true question should ne what do you like john . If that's the tone of your first contact messages without having a social to confirm you are actually speaking to a woman I'd confidently bet that the 'women' you're chatting to are men! There aren't many if any women that will ask you straight up what you plan on doing to them, I'd guess that was a guy after wank fodder. Women sub or not but real women, ok correction, smart women don't engage in bollocks sex chat before establishing that they are chatting to the person in the pictures on the profile. " you would be surprised empress i don't have that problem men approach as men and every profile on here and elsewhere is veried in person by others . I obviously belong to well know kink sites I even run a blog, the scene is very different than it was 10 years ago brilliant if you wish for kinky hook ups not if you wish for something more substantial. as random hook ups offer me nothing I have need of i am forever getting into trouble because i say two simple words NO THANKYOU | |||
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"I can't work out if this is yet another 'I'm so much better than you' threads or a 'woe is me' thread... " think it is a bit of both. if you dont play how i want to play then i am better than you but i cant find what i want so boo hoo hoo | |||
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"I can't work out if this is yet another 'I'm so much better than you' threads or a 'woe is me' thread... think it is a bit of both. if you dont play how i want to play then i am better than you but i cant find what i want so boo hoo hoo" Yep, is totally agree with that! | |||
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"I can't work out if this is yet another 'I'm so much better than you' threads or a 'woe is me' thread... think it is a bit of both. if you dont play how i want to play then i am better than you but i cant find what i want so boo hoo hoo" | |||
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"its 4 or 22 depending on how you put it do I win lol xx" This is a very good demonstration showing people can read messages and questions differently and so get different answers. | |||
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"Op. Are you okay ? . . Need a hug? "no fella I'm laughing my arse off here at the minute at some of the comments in here | |||
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"keep smiling lovely xx" kat I love it when someone miss judges me it means I can rest in the knowledge of knowing I'm having the last laugh   | |||
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"keep smiling lovely xx kat I love it when someone miss judges me it means I can rest in the knowledge of knowing I'm having the last laugh "ive not miss judged you you are lovely but you have a very thoughtful dark side xx | |||
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"keep smiling lovely xx kat I love it when someone miss judges me it means I can rest in the knowledge of knowing I'm having the last laugh ive not miss judged you you are lovely but you have a very thoughtful dark side xx"yes I do kat one that very very few get to explore | |||
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"keep smiling lovely xx kat I love it when someone miss judges me it means I can rest in the knowledge of knowing I'm having the last laugh ive not miss judged you you are lovely but you have a very thoughtful dark side xx
yes I do kat one that very very few get to explore "yes I can imagine you would need to feel a connection if your in that kind of play situation xx | |||
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"keep smiling lovely xx kat I love it when someone miss judges me it means I can rest in the knowledge of knowing I'm having the last laugh ive not miss judged you you are lovely but you have a very thoughtful dark side xx
yes I do kat one that very very few get to explore yes I can imagine you would need to feel a connection if your in that kind of play situation xx"kat look around I attract the worst but ever now and again I attract the best it is what it is , i illicit strong reactions both positive and negative I end up with negative stalkers trying to engage with me where ever I go but you have eyes you can see that
I have a habit of bringing out real hate in some that they can not seem to control I've always had that skill from a teenager but I also bringing out real friendship in others and I'm not on about acquaintance friendships dressed up as the real thing I'm on about genuine life long friendships . | |||
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"keep smiling lovely xx kat I love it when someone miss judges me it means I can rest in the knowledge of knowing I'm having the last laugh ive not miss judged you you are lovely but you have a very thoughtful dark side xx
yes I do kat one that very very few get to explore yes I can imagine you would need to feel a connection if your in that kind of play situation xx
kat look around I attract the worst but ever now and again I attract the best it is what it is ,
i illicit strong reactions both positive and negative I end up with negative stalkers trying to engage with me where ever I go but you have eyes you can see that
I have a habit of bringing out real hate in some that they can not seem to control I've always had that skill from a teenager but I also bringing out real friendship in others and I'm not on about acquaintance friendships dressed up as the real thing I'm on about genuine life long friendships . "see now im not sure how to react to this but as I said you are a very deep person I shall now shut up xx | |||
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"I weep for the community. I really do. Here's a scenario for you. Submissive is young and unsure. They meet their perfect dominant. A gateway to this whole world unfolding in front of their eyes. But rather than encourage and embrace this journey on their behalf, the dominant accuses them of being fake. Time wasters. I think this is disguising behavior and anyone that sees this kind of negging / manipulation as funny has no place in the kink community. " Would you say the same in support the many wannabes we write off regularly in the forums as dim doms? That they are all really real but could just starting out yet we are unjustly negging them? Or are they correctly identified as wannabes? Who says if you're right or not? What if others don't agree? Just as there are many wannabe doms who have no idea what dominance really is or how to use it, the same is true of wannabe subs who have no idea what true submission is and are just wanting a bit of kinky slap and tickle sex for a bit of fun because that's what they think it is. If you're suggesting the fakes are only on one side of the fence then I don't agree with you! If you think the many on this site who call dim dom on wannabe doms are right to do so then surely it's ok for people on this site to call out wannabe subs where they see it? I see it, I get it - I delete so many messages and could tell many stories of the fakes subs. And I support subs who have been subjected to fake, wannabe or manipulative dim doms so I call out both side. I don't for one second believe the OP is fake or manipulative and can see why he calls fake sub even if you can't. I believe it's his right, just as it is my right and everyone else's right on the forum to call people on what you see - dim dom, fake sub, tumewaster, cockwomble, whatever, we are all afforded an opinion here
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"I weep for the community. I really do. Here's a scenario for you. Submissive is young and unsure. They meet their perfect dominant. A gateway to this whole world unfolding in front of their eyes. But rather than encourage and embrace this journey on their behalf, the dominant accuses them of being fake. Time wasters. I think this is disguising behavior and anyone that sees this kind of negging / manipulation as funny has no place in the kink community. Would you say the same in support the many wannabes we write off regularly in the forums as dim doms? That they are all really real but could just starting out yet we are unjustly negging them? Or are they correctly identified as wannabes? Who says if you're right or not? What if others don't agree? Just as there are many wannabe doms who have no idea what dominance really is or how to use it, the same is true of wannabe subs who have no idea what true submission is and are just wanting a bit of kinky slap and tickle sex for a bit of fun because that's what they think it is. If you're suggesting the fakes are only on one side of the fence then I don't agree with you! If you think the many on this site who call dim dom on wannabe doms are right to do so then surely it's ok for people on this site to call out wannabe subs where they see it? I see it, I get it - I delete so many messages and could tell many stories of the fakes subs. And I support subs who have been subjected to fake, wannabe or manipulative dim doms so I call out both side. I don't for one second believe the OP is fake or manipulative and can see why he calls fake sub even if you can't. I believe it's his right, just as it is my right and everyone else's right on the forum to call people on what you see - dim dom, fake sub, tumewaster, cockwomble, whatever, we are all afforded an opinion here
Whether you like it or not there are plenty of wannabes and fakes on both sides of the fence so when you weep for the community, weep for the poor dim doms too if you want to be inclusive honey "I read through this about 5 times and still don't really understand the point you're trying to make. I'll reiterate. Anyone who uses the argument of fake or true sub or Dom to manipulate someone to push beyond their boundaries is a wank. Male or Female, sub or Dominant. | |||
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"I weep for the community. I really do. Here's a scenario for you. Submissive is young and unsure. They meet their perfect dominant. A gateway to this whole world unfolding in front of their eyes. But rather than encourage and embrace this journey on their behalf, the dominant accuses them of being fake. Time wasters. I think this is disguising behavior and anyone that sees this kind of negging / manipulation as funny has no place in the kink community. Would you say the same in support the many wannabes we write off regularly in the forums as dim doms? That they are all really real but could just starting out yet we are unjustly negging them? Or are they correctly identified as wannabes? Who says if you're right or not? What if others don't agree? Just as there are many wannabe doms who have no idea what dominance really is or how to use it, the same is true of wannabe subs who have no idea what true submission is and are just wanting a bit of kinky slap and tickle sex for a bit of fun because that's what they think it is. If you're suggesting the fakes are only on one side of the fence then I don't agree with you! If you think the many on this site who call dim dom on wannabe doms are right to do so then surely it's ok for people on this site to call out wannabe subs where they see it? I see it, I get it - I delete so many messages and could tell many stories of the fakes subs. And I support subs who have been subjected to fake, wannabe or manipulative dim doms so I call out both side. I don't for one second believe the OP is fake or manipulative and can see why he calls fake sub even if you can't. I believe it's his right, just as it is my right and everyone else's right on the forum to call people on what you see - dim dom, fake sub, tumewaster, cockwomble, whatever, we are all afforded an opinion here
Whether you like it or not there are plenty of wannabes and fakes on both sides of the fence so when you weep for the community, weep for the poor dim doms too if you want to be inclusive honey
I read through this about 5 times and still don't really understand the point you're trying to make.
I'll reiterate. Anyone who uses the argument of fake or true sub or Dom to manipulate someone to push beyond their boundaries is a wank. Male or Female, sub or Dominant. "Your scenario was about a dom calling someone fake, I didn't see anything in it about using manipulation to push beyond their boundaries. Not encouraging someone's journey dom or sub isn't being wank, it's just saying I wont give you my time because you're either not for me or you're fake/dim. Applies to both sides which is what I was highlighting | |||
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"Your scenario was about a dom calling someone fake, I didn't see anything in it about using manipulation to push beyond their boundaries. Not encouraging someone's journey dom or sub isn't being wank, it's just saying I wont give you my time because you're either not for me or you're fake/dim. Applies to both sides which is what I was highlighting " Clearly the OP's rant is all about how he kind find anyone to live up to his standard, sorry the standard for all BDSM is clearly aimed at someone who was unwilling to go where he wanted them too. In Bird Person culture that is considered a dick move. | |||
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"Your scenario was about a dom calling someone fake, I didn't see anything in it about using manipulation to push beyond their boundaries. Not encouraging someone's journey dom or sub isn't being wank, it's just saying I wont give you my time because you're either not for me or you're fake/dim. Applies to both sides which is what I was highlighting Clearly the OP's rant is all about how he kind find anyone to live up to his standard, sorry the standard for all BDSM is clearly aimed at someone who was unwilling to go where he wanted them too. In Bird Person culture that is considered a dick move. " Unwilling, really? You read into this something different to me! It's like a swinger wanting and looking for a good connection and friendship with benefits agreement with someone but all they get is loads of messages from guys wanting fuck and go. It's not about unwilling, it's more each side are looking for different things. If a bloke said yes I'll do the whole FWB thing and clearly didn't mean it just to get the meet then surely it's absolutely right to call them on it? Same here just with a bdsm angle. For some people what they seek is rare. Rather than lower his standards to the fuck and go equivalent, he's holding out for the one who can, will and indeed very much wants to go where he can and will take them. That's what I read anyway. | |||
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"Your scenario was about a dom calling someone fake, I didn't see anything in it about using manipulation to push beyond their boundaries. Not encouraging someone's journey dom or sub isn't being wank, it's just saying I wont give you my time because you're either not for me or you're fake/dim. Applies to both sides which is what I was highlighting Clearly the OP's rant is all about how he kind find anyone to live up to his standard, sorry the standard for all BDSM is clearly aimed at someone who was unwilling to go where he wanted them too. In Bird Person culture that is considered a dick move. Unwilling, really? You read into this something different to me! It's like a swinger wanting and looking for a good connection and friendship with benefits agreement with someone but all they get is loads of messages from guys wanting fuck and go. It's not about unwilling, it's more each side are looking for different things. If a bloke said yes I'll do the whole FWB thing and clearly didn't mean it just to get the meet then surely it's absolutely right to call them on it? Same here just with a bdsm angle. For some people what they seek is rare. Rather than lower his standards to the fuck and go equivalent, he's holding out for the one who can, will and indeed very much wants to go where he can and will take them. That's what I read anyway. " Very admirable. But the I'm better than you rhetoric is unsettling. | |||
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"Your scenario was about a dom calling someone fake, I didn't see anything in it about using manipulation to push beyond their boundaries. Not encouraging someone's journey dom or sub isn't being wank, it's just saying I wont give you my time because you're either not for me or you're fake/dim. Applies to both sides which is what I was highlighting Clearly the OP's rant is all about how he kind find anyone to live up to his standard, sorry the standard for all BDSM is clearly aimed at someone who was unwilling to go where he wanted them too. In Bird Person culture that is considered a dick move. Unwilling, really? You read into this something different to me! It's like a swinger wanting and looking for a good connection and friendship with benefits agreement with someone but all they get is loads of messages from guys wanting fuck and go. It's not about unwilling, it's more each side are looking for different things. If a bloke said yes I'll do the whole FWB thing and clearly didn't mean it just to get the meet then surely it's absolutely right to call them on it? Same here just with a bdsm angle. For some people what they seek is rare. Rather than lower his standards to the fuck and go equivalent, he's holding out for the one who can, will and indeed very much wants to go where he can and will take them. That's what I read anyway. Very admirable. But the I'm better than you rhetoric is unsettling. " Do you have a similar go at the swingers on this site who freely complain the fuck and go guys aren't 'real' swingers as being full of the I'm better than you rhetoric? | |||
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"...Do you have a similar go at the swingers on this site who freely complain the fuck and go guys aren't 'real' swingers as being full of the I'm better than you rhetoric? "Most certainly. "You're not a real swinger if you don't do bare back gang bangs" = Douche However if you're looking for a swinging partner who loves ending up looking like a plasterers radio, and nothing else will do. Fantastic you have a preference. But you don't get to say anyone who doesn't gang bang / full swap / bareback is a fake or a time waster. | |||
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"...Do you have a similar go at the swingers on this site who freely complain the fuck and go guys aren't 'real' swingers as being full of the I'm better than you rhetoric?
Most certainly. "You're not a real swinger if you don't do bare back gang bangs" = Douche
However if you're looking for a swinging partner who loves ending up looking like a plasterers radio, and nothing else will do. Fantastic you have a preference. But you don't get to say anyone who doesn't gang bang / full swap / bareback is a fake or a time waster. "Think you missed the point completely so let's use your scenario - if you're looking for a partner for a plasterers radio bukkake (love the description!) and someone says they do but through chatting you realise they're cumphobic, yes it's right to call fake or timewaster. My reading of the OP he wasn't complaining someone who doesn't like a good old plasterers radio spunk filled scene is a fake or timewaster or he's somehow better because his preference is different. Looked like someone said they did when actually they don't. It really seems that simple to be. And that's like the fuck and go guys who say they want a regular FWB when you know they're just saying that while their balls are full. Easy to spot in both cases and therefore in my book a fake and a timewaster and we all have the right to have and state that opinion If you still don't get it then I'll leave it there, no more time or effort from me | |||
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"or maybe there just not what I call real as there playing at being sub and dom only for a sexual kick .not the real thing by that I mean its not there core being just in there sexual make up to play at a little bit of spanking restraining with out true understanding of the truth of bdsm d/s and S&M." BDSM can be nothing more than a slapped bum and enjoyable sex. There isn't an entrance exam. You can't call fake because a sub isn't as deep into protocol as you are. You just can't. The OP is claiming to be better than so called fake subs because they don't match his expectations of them rather than accept that they just aren't compatible. Instead we get a 'woe is me, I'm too good for you fakes' thread engineered to either insult sometime or goad someone into pushing harder than they want. Plus i completly disregard his claim of being a good dominant at all. There is no evidence besides his words. The blog is just reposts and stolen quotes and on the world's biggest kink network he has two friends and one is a club night. I care very deeply about the kink world and the people in it. Arrogance is actually dangerous. | |||
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"keep smiling lovely xx kat I love it when someone miss judges me it means I can rest in the knowledge of knowing I'm having the last laugh ive not miss judged you you are lovely but you have a very thoughtful dark side xx
yes I do kat one that very very few get to explore yes I can imagine you would need to feel a connection if your in that kind of play situation xx
kat look around I attract the worst but ever now and again I attract the best it is what it is ,
i illicit strong reactions both positive and negative I end up with negative stalkers trying to engage with me where ever I go but you have eyes you can see that
I have a habit of bringing out real hate in some that they can not seem to control I've always had that skill from a teenager but I also bringing out real friendship in others and I'm not on about acquaintance friendships dressed up as the real thing I'm on about genuine life long friendships . "I would say, OP, that if you have a habit of bringing out people's negativity. I think your use of the word "stalkers" is somewhat egotistical on your part, then maybe I'd question what I'm doing to bring out such negative feelings in people. | |||
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"Had the status changed as at the miniute it just kinda screams teenage angst?" Never even saw the original status. But i imagine it included the word 'fake'. | |||
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"Had the status changed as at the miniute it just kinda screams teenage angst? Never even saw the original status. But i imagine it included the word 'fake'." And 6 hours ago yours says 'Big Bad True Dom has only two friends on the world's premier Fetish site!'. Wow you just can't let it drop! And getting very personal too now - reported to admin as imho you've crossed a line on forum and site behaviour | |||
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"Had the status changed as at the miniute it just kinda screams teenage angst? Never even saw the original status. But i imagine it included the word 'fake'. And 6 hours ago yours says 'Big Bad True Dom has only two friends on the world's premier Fetish site!'. Wow you just can't let it drop! And getting very personal too now - reported to admin as imho you've crossed a line on forum and site behaviour" And even after this you're still having a go of the OP with another of your status updates... 
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