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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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The news today reported that Lloyds of London has banned drinking during working hours. Two things surprised me about this story:
1. That they've only just done it
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2. That staff have reacted with 'fury' calling Lloyds 'the PC capital of the world' even though the ban is a result of analysing their grievance and disciplinary cases and finding that 'about half' relate to alcohol misuse.
I remember the workplace booze culture of the 80s and 90s very well and while I had a lot of fun it wasn't all good.
Can any of you still get away with drinking in work hours? |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"I'm sure they'll still get bladdered at 5.05pm
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Running out the door to get to the nearest boozer. 
Today has been full of alcohol stories with a feature on the affects on children of having alcoholic parents and one on the decimation of pubs due to rising business rates.
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"The news today reported that Lloyds of London has banned drinking during working hours. Two things surprised me about this story:
1. That they've only just done it
and
2. That staff have reacted with 'fury' calling Lloyds 'the PC capital of the world' even though the ban is a result of analysing their grievance and disciplinary cases and finding that 'about half' relate to alcohol misuse.
I remember the workplace booze culture of the 80s and 90s very well and while I had a lot of fun it wasn't all good.
Can any of you still get away with drinking in work hours?"
In answer to the question, I used to work in a small team who's senior manager(ess, as it goes), delighted in the occasional slightly over-long and terrifically boozy lunch.
And then we'd wobble back to work and the afternoon would fly by.
Remember the CEO stopping by the door one time after we'd returned and curtly saying, "I don't mind if you go out and drink at lunch time but DON'T come back to the office."
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"The news today reported that Lloyds of London has banned drinking during working hours. Two things surprised me about this story:
1. That they've only just done it
and
2. That staff have reacted with 'fury' calling Lloyds 'the PC capital of the world' even though the ban is a result of analysing their grievance and disciplinary cases and finding that 'about half' relate to alcohol misuse.
I remember the workplace booze culture of the 80s and 90s very well and while I had a lot of fun it wasn't all good.
Can any of you still get away with drinking in work hours?
In answer to the question, I used to work in a small team who's senior manager(ess, as it goes), delighted in the occasional slightly over-long and terrifically boozy lunch.
And then we'd wobble back to work and the afternoon would fly by.
Remember the CEO stopping by the door one time after we'd returned and curtly saying, "I don't mind if you go out and drink at lunch time but DON'T come back to the office."
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I have said something similar but with the addition of docking the time.
One former mayor's cupboard was better stocked than some bars.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No chance - there's a top notch health and safety culture at my place of work. Any booze on site means instant dismissal 
I do remember boozy Friday afternoons when I worked in the centre of Glasgow many years ago though. Fun times and since top brass partook it also felt like a half day!! |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"No chance - there's a top notch health and safety culture at my place of work. Any booze on site means instant dismissal
I do remember boozy Friday afternoons when I worked in the centre of Glasgow many years ago though. Fun times and since top brass partook it also felt like a half day!!"
That's because it was a half day.
We used to call Friday POETS Day in the 80s. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If I (Mr) went out boozing during work hours my career would be finished, pretty much a given. I haven't had a boozy lunch during a normal day since I was a student  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No chance - there's a top notch health and safety culture at my place of work. Any booze on site means instant dismissal
I do remember boozy Friday afternoons when I worked in the centre of Glasgow many years ago though. Fun times and since top brass partook it also felt like a half day!!
That's because it was a half day.
We used to call Friday POETS Day in the 80s."
You mean I didn't need to go back into the office after a lunchtime refreshment  |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"If I (Mr) went out boozing during work hours my career would be finished, pretty much a given. I haven't had a boozy lunch during a normal day since I was a student "
I think that is the norm. Lloyds has just caught up to modern working practice.
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"No chance - there's a top notch health and safety culture at my place of work. Any booze on site means instant dismissal
I do remember boozy Friday afternoons when I worked in the centre of Glasgow many years ago though. Fun times and since top brass partook it also felt like a half day!!
That's because it was a half day.
We used to call Friday POETS Day in the 80s.
You mean I didn't need to go back into the office after a lunchtime refreshment "
Well... we used to go back at about 4.30pm, submit our sales figures, get coats and bags and go back to the pub.
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Used to go to the pub all the time during lunch break for 2-3 pints n a couple of cheeky aftershocks to give me a nice glow to go back to work with 
This was years ago,n I was a lot more wreckless in my youth!
Rarely go to the pub while at work these days n if I do it's just the one drink.
Worked with a guy a couple of years ago that would buy a big box of tinnies every morning n drink 10 or so throughout the day......while working.....at height!!!  |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Used to go to the pub all the time during lunch break for 2-3 pints n a couple of cheeky aftershocks to give me a nice glow to go back to work with
This was years ago,n I was a lot more wreckless in my youth!
Rarely go to the pub while at work these days n if I do it's just the one drink.
Worked with a guy a couple of years ago that would buy a big box of tinnies every morning n drink 10 or so throughout the day......while working.....at height!!! "
If you knew I suppose others also knew. How was that allowed? If an accident had happened the HSE would be all over you.
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By *inzi LTV/TS
over a year ago
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"The news today reported that Lloyds of London has banned drinking during working hours. Two things surprised me about this story:
1. That they've only just done it
and
2. That staff have reacted with 'fury' calling Lloyds 'the PC capital of the world' even though the ban is a result of analysing their grievance and disciplinary cases and finding that 'about half' relate to alcohol misuse.
I remember the workplace booze culture of the 80s and 90s very well and while I had a lot of fun it wasn't all good.
Can any of you still get away with drinking in work hours?"
No, never. Total hypocrisy!
Your working, your doing a job... that's what I'm always told anyway! |
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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago
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When I joined the Army in the late 80s there was a big drinking culture and it was not unusual especially for the Sergeants etc to go and have drinks in the Mess at lunchtime. If you didn't drink then you were considered weird etc. When I left a few years ago nobody thought it strange that I didn't drink and in fact, I would say more than half of my colleagues also didn't drink.
I believe that drinking is no longer the big thing it used to be. |
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"Used to go to the pub all the time during lunch break for 2-3 pints n a couple of cheeky aftershocks to give me a nice glow to go back to work with
This was years ago,n I was a lot more wreckless in my youth!
Rarely go to the pub while at work these days n if I do it's just the one drink.
Worked with a guy a couple of years ago that would buy a big box of tinnies every morning n drink 10 or so throughout the day......while working.....at height!!!
If you knew I suppose others also knew. How was that allowed? If an accident had happened the HSE would be all over you.
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Very true,though he was a functioning alcoholic so it didn't stop him working as safely as the next man.If I thought he was a danger to me or himself I would of refused to work with him!
He didn't keep his job for long anyway once word of his drinking got round the company! |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"When I joined the Army in the late 80s there was a big drinking culture and it was not unusual especially for the Sergeants etc to go and have drinks in the Mess at lunchtime. If you didn't drink then you were considered weird etc. When I left a few years ago nobody thought it strange that I didn't drink and in fact, I would say more than half of my colleagues also didn't drink.
I believe that drinking is no longer the big thing it used to be."
I agree that it used to be a badge of honour, and was almost required to be part of the establishment. Now it is the other way around. |
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"Used to go to the pub all the time during lunch break for 2-3 pints n a couple of cheeky aftershocks to give me a nice glow to go back to work with
This was years ago,n I was a lot more wreckless in my youth!
Rarely go to the pub while at work these days n if I do it's just the one drink.
Worked with a guy a couple of years ago that would buy a big box of tinnies every morning n drink 10 or so throughout the day......while working.....at height!!!
If you knew I suppose others also knew. How was that allowed? If an accident had happened the HSE would be all over you.
Very true,though he was a functioning alcoholic so it didn't stop him working as safely as the next man.If I thought he was a danger to me or himself I would of refused to work with him!
He didn't keep his job for long anyway once word of his drinking got round the company!"
I dont think you can say any alcoholic can work safely, especially when working at height etc  |
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Yes I do get to booze in work hours "entertaining clients". All that will happen here with Lloyd's is more off site meetings and not returning until the following day!
It'll be tough to change the culture as its always been that way. Will still have the majority of old men who like a drink etc. |
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"Used to go to the pub all the time during lunch break for 2-3 pints n a couple of cheeky aftershocks to give me a nice glow to go back to work with
This was years ago,n I was a lot more wreckless in my youth!
Rarely go to the pub while at work these days n if I do it's just the one drink.
Worked with a guy a couple of years ago that would buy a big box of tinnies every morning n drink 10 or so throughout the day......while working.....at height!!!
If you knew I suppose others also knew. How was that allowed? If an accident had happened the HSE would be all over you.
Very true,though he was a functioning alcoholic so it didn't stop him working as safely as the next man.If I thought he was a danger to me or himself I would of refused to work with him!
He didn't keep his job for long anyway once word of his drinking got round the company!
I dont think you can say any alcoholic can work safely, especially when working at height etc "
I've done this job for years n can tell within minutes of watching someone work if they're confident and competent in what they're doing or not |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Yes I do get to booze in work hours "entertaining clients". All that will happen here with Lloyd's is more off site meetings and not returning until the following day!
It'll be tough to change the culture as its always been that way. Will still have the majority of old men who like a drink etc."
I'm surprised you still have the day time drinking with clients. I still see, and have, the evening client entertainment drinking but even these are getting fewer.
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I'm really surprised by this news!
I haven't drank at work since the 90's. I can't quite recal when the lunchtime drinking, Friday afternoon drinks in the office stopped, it must have just phased out over time.
Used to love Fridays, pub @ lunchtime, afternoon office drink followed by drinks after work, accompanied by a good helping of Marlboro Lights.... no wonder I used to sleep in till late morning on Saturday! |
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yes I remember back to my late teens/20/21, in the late 70,s I,d nip
Across the road in the hour we had at lunchtime once or twice a week and have
one or two pints this grew to 3 or 4 pints along with a cheese and onion cob and crisps, then back to portering in the local hospital I knew I had to cut my pints down so settled at one or two and eventually cut the days down, and most fridays in the 80,s myself and work colleagues had a boozy friday lunch early 80,s 80/81 perhaps 82 all in half an hour I could,nt do it now like I could then and yes friday afternoons just disappeared I did it elsewhere in the 80,s too and midweek but it was never the same again it just seemed to lose its appeal as I was on my own to... but also came to a end something I did,nt really miss after it must have been just a phase I was going through. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Our reception area is a mock up bar lounge complete with fully stocked beer and wine fridges.
We are allowed 1 drink from them at the pre Christmas lunchtime buffet and that's it.
The rest of the time it really is just for show. |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"I'm really surprised by this news!
I haven't drank at work since the 90's. I can't quite recal when the lunchtime drinking, Friday afternoon drinks in the office stopped, it must have just phased out over time.
Used to love Fridays, pub @ lunchtime, afternoon office drink followed by drinks after work, accompanied by a good helping of Marlboro Lights.... no wonder I used to sleep in till late morning on Saturday!"
That was me too... often with casual sex with colleagues thrown in.  It stopped for me around 1994/5.
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"Yes I do get to booze in work hours "entertaining clients". All that will happen here with Lloyd's is more off site meetings and not returning until the following day!
It'll be tough to change the culture as its always been that way. Will still have the majority of old men who like a drink etc.
I'm surprised you still have the day time drinking with clients. I still see, and have, the evening client entertainment drinking but even these are getting fewer.
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I work in IT sales, seen a dramatic drop in it, but still reasonably acceptable.
In fact I am having lunch with a customer in town tomorrow and there will definitely be a couple of beers involved.
Mind you I'll then get back on the train and snooze my way home. |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Our reception area is a mock up bar lounge complete with fully stocked beer and wine fridges.
We are allowed 1 drink from them at the pre Christmas lunchtime buffet and that's it.
The rest of the time it really is just for show."
What an odd thing to have for show... mixed messages.
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By (user no longer on site)
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I don't think alcohol should be a part of anyone's job, not for any reason.
Unless you're a wine taster
How much alcohol does Parliament get through per annum? |
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"Our reception area is a mock up bar lounge complete with fully stocked beer and wine fridges.
We are allowed 1 drink from them at the pre Christmas lunchtime buffet and that's it.
The rest of the time it really is just for show.
What an odd thing to have for show... mixed messages.
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Might work for Wetherspoons HO. |
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"Our reception area is a mock up bar lounge complete with fully stocked beer and wine fridges.
We are allowed 1 drink from them at the pre Christmas lunchtime buffet and that's it.
The rest of the time it really is just for show.
What an odd thing to have for show... mixed messages.
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We build and install bars and commercial kitchens so it is more to showcase the products.
All the staff laugh because 'front of house' is stunning but walk through that door and see it change.
All interviewees are like 'wow' and then when they start and see behind the scenes ... well |
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"I'm really surprised by this news!
I haven't drank at work since the 90's. I can't quite recal when the lunchtime drinking, Friday afternoon drinks in the office stopped, it must have just phased out over time.
Used to love Fridays, pub @ lunchtime, afternoon office drink followed by drinks after work, accompanied by a good helping of Marlboro Lights.... no wonder I used to sleep in till late morning on Saturday!
That was me too... often with casual sex with colleagues thrown in. It stopped for me around 1994/5.
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Ooooh yes, I'd conveniently forgotten about the causal liaisons with colleagues cringe! |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Yes I do get to booze in work hours "entertaining clients". All that will happen here with Lloyd's is more off site meetings and not returning until the following day!
It'll be tough to change the culture as its always been that way. Will still have the majority of old men who like a drink etc.
I'm surprised you still have the day time drinking with clients. I still see, and have, the evening client entertainment drinking but even these are getting fewer.
I work in IT sales, seen a dramatic drop in it, but still reasonably acceptable.
In fact I am having lunch with a customer in town tomorrow and there will definitely be a couple of beers involved.
Mind you I'll then get back on the train and snooze my way home."
I used to sell computers in the mid/late 80s and the drinking culture was incredible. We'd drink with every client. We'd drink if anyone made a sale. We'd drink every evening after work and no one left the pub on Fridays until the last bell was wrung.
Then, working with building contractors, Friday night would be always be a lock-in and someone d*unk-driving to get us home 'safely'.  |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Our reception area is a mock up bar lounge complete with fully stocked beer and wine fridges.
We are allowed 1 drink from them at the pre Christmas lunchtime buffet and that's it.
The rest of the time it really is just for show.
What an odd thing to have for show... mixed messages.
We build and install bars and commercial kitchens so it is more to showcase the products.
All the staff laugh because 'front of house' is stunning but walk through that door and see it change.
All interviewees are like 'wow' and then when they start and see behind the scenes ... well "
That's worse than finding that the tempting boobs were chicken fillets and a padded push-up bra. |
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"When I joined the Army in the late 80s there was a big drinking culture and it was not unusual especially for the Sergeants etc to go and have drinks in the Mess at lunchtime. If you didn't drink then you were considered weird etc. When I left a few years ago nobody thought it strange that I didn't drink and in fact, I would say more than half of my colleagues also didn't drink.
I believe that drinking is no longer the big thing it used to be."
The good ol' days..
And of course you would also be taught how to work with ordinance by a WO2 with a fag in his mouth...
Fortunately we have moved on...
Unfortunately, the evils of drinking and smoking at work have been replaced by an even worse evil..
Risk assessments and method statements!! |
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"Used to go to the pub all the time during lunch break for 2-3 pints n a couple of cheeky aftershocks to give me a nice glow to go back to work with
This was years ago,n I was a lot more wreckless in my youth!
Rarely go to the pub while at work these days n if I do it's just the one drink.
Worked with a guy a couple of years ago that would buy a big box of tinnies every morning n drink 10 or so throughout the day......while working.....at height!!!
If you knew I suppose others also knew. How was that allowed? If an accident had happened the HSE would be all over you.
Very true,though he was a functioning alcoholic so it didn't stop him working as safely as the next man.If I thought he was a danger to me or himself I would of refused to work with him!
He didn't keep his job for long anyway once word of his drinking got round the company!
I dont think you can say any alcoholic can work safely, especially when working at height etc
I've done this job for years n can tell within minutes of watching someone work if they're confident and competent in what they're doing or not"
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I worked for a boss (Solicitor) who regularly went to lunch at 12pm and often didn't get back to the office until 4:30pm and that was just to sign off mail/cheques for the 5pm post.
He either went to the Golf Club or to a Club that was just for men only (one of those old fashioned places where they sit around in comfy chairs smoking and boozing i suspect with the other half of Cardiff's legal population).
He'd ring to see if anything urgent had cropped up and if it had he'd come back, if not he'd stay out.
Was bloody lovely. He always gave me hefty Christmas bonuses too.
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"I worked for a boss (Solicitor) who regularly went to lunch at 12pm and often didn't get back to the office until 4:30pm and that was just to sign off mail/cheques for the 5pm post.
He either went to the Golf Club or to a Club that was just for men only (one of those old fashioned places where they sit around in comfy chairs smoking and boozing i suspect with the other half of Cardiff's legal population).
He'd ring to see if anything urgent had cropped up and if it had he'd come back, if not he'd stay out.
Was bloody lovely. He always gave me hefty Christmas bonuses too.
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It's no wonder our productivity was considered low. |
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"Used to go to the pub all the time during lunch break for 2-3 pints n a couple of cheeky aftershocks to give me a nice glow to go back to work with
This was years ago,n I was a lot more wreckless in my youth!
Rarely go to the pub while at work these days n if I do it's just the one drink.
Worked with a guy a couple of years ago that would buy a big box of tinnies every morning n drink 10 or so throughout the day......while working.....at height!!!
If you knew I suppose others also knew. How was that allowed? If an accident had happened the HSE would be all over you.
Very true,though he was a functioning alcoholic so it didn't stop him working as safely as the next man.If I thought he was a danger to me or himself I would of refused to work with him!
He didn't keep his job for long anyway once word of his drinking got round the company!
I dont think you can say any alcoholic can work safely, especially when working at height etc
I've done this job for years n can tell within minutes of watching someone work if they're confident and competent in what they're doing or not
LOL...... Ok "
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I've worked at brewery's for nearly 20 years now. When I 1st started you get a daily allowance of if I remember right 4 pints and by fuck there was some with a serious drink problem back then. Obviously them days are long gone and it's an instant dismissal and rightly so but it still go's on. Sad as fuck if you ask me |
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My first job was predicated on how many pints I could sink while still conversing coherently with the Ops Director, then function effectively the following day in an assessment centre.
In the early days lunch was in the pub and then a serious amount d*unk before jumping on the Tube without missing the last train, staying awake for two stops and then picking up a takeaway.
No wonder I put on about 3 stone.
That all petered out in the early 90s, along with the casual liaisons |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"I've worked at brewery's for nearly 20 years now. When I 1st started you get a daily allowance of if I remember right 4 pints and by fuck there was some with a serious drink problem back then. Obviously them days are long gone and it's an instant dismissal and rightly so but it still go's on. Sad as fuck if you ask me"
It's a gross misconduct offense everywhere I have worked in the last 20 years.
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"I've worked at brewery's for nearly 20 years now. When I 1st started you get a daily allowance of if I remember right 4 pints and by fuck there was some with a serious drink problem back then. Obviously them days are long gone and it's an instant dismissal and rightly so but it still go's on. Sad as fuck if you ask me
It's a gross misconduct offense everywhere I have worked in the last 20 years.
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I'd say time was called about 10 years ago for us at most. At 1 time it was just regarded as an occupational hazard |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"My first job was predicated on how many pints I could sink while still conversing coherently with the Ops Director, then function effectively the following day in an assessment centre.
In the early days lunch was in the pub and then a serious amount d*unk before jumping on the Tube without missing the last train, staying awake for two stops and then picking up a takeaway.
No wonder I put on about 3 stone.
That all petered out in the early 90s, along with the casual liaisons "
I wonder if the crash in the early 90s and the Aids pandemic both helped to drive the changes in work policy in the 90s?
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By (user no longer on site)
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Although I don't drink, I wouldn't dream of drinking during working hours.
In any event, I cannot risk my judgement being impaired in any way.
And of course, it's a disciplinary issue......
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"I don't ever remember people drinking at work. Chain smoking in the office yes. Alcohol never. I'm really surprised they only just banned it!"
The overflowing ashtrays on the desks and the fug of smoke hanging in the air led us all to go out for fresh air... to the pub where the fug included the smell of booze mixed with the smoke.
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"My first job was predicated on how many pints I could sink while still conversing coherently with the Ops Director, then function effectively the following day in an assessment centre.
In the early days lunch was in the pub and then a serious amount d*unk before jumping on the Tube without missing the last train, staying awake for two stops and then picking up a takeaway.
No wonder I put on about 3 stone.
That all petered out in the early 90s, along with the casual liaisons
I wonder if the crash in the early 90s and the Aids pandemic both helped to drive the changes in work policy in the 90s?
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"No chance - there's a top notch health and safety culture at my place of work. Any booze on site means instant dismissal
I do remember boozy Friday afternoons when I worked in the centre of Glasgow many years ago though. Fun times and since top brass partook it also felt like a half day!!
That's because it was a half day.
We used to call Friday POETS Day in the 80s."
Friday was POETS day, with Saturday morning being CRAFT moments - oh the days, and how the hell did we get away with it?
I work in a place that a bar/social within the building that was open at lunchtimes. Madness really. |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
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"Although I don't drink, I wouldn't dream of drinking during working hours.
In any event, I cannot risk my judgement being impaired in any way.
And of course, it's a disciplinary issue......
M
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Quite.
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"No chance - there's a top notch health and safety culture at my place of work. Any booze on site means instant dismissal
I do remember boozy Friday afternoons when I worked in the centre of Glasgow many years ago though. Fun times and since top brass partook it also felt like a half day!!
That's because it was a half day.
We used to call Friday POETS Day in the 80s.
Friday was POETS day, with Saturday morning being CRAFT moments - oh the days, and how the hell did we get away with it?
I work in a place that a bar/social within the building that was open at lunchtimes. Madness really."
CRAFT? That one didn't get used around me.
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"Drinking should not be allowed in work time full stop,it kills productivity and efficancy.
If they can afford to drink everyday they must be overpaid,reduce there pay by 20%  "
It's ok, it's on expences... |
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"Drinking should not be allowed in work time full stop,it kills productivity and efficancy.
If they can afford to drink everyday they must be overpaid,reduce there pay by 20%
It's ok, it's on expences..."
* expensheshs
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"No chance - there's a top notch health and safety culture at my place of work. Any booze on site means instant dismissal
I do remember boozy Friday afternoons when I worked in the centre of Glasgow many years ago though. Fun times and since top brass partook it also felt like a half day!!
That's because it was a half day.
We used to call Friday POETS Day in the 80s.
Friday was POETS day, with Saturday morning being CRAFT moments - oh the days, and how the hell did we get away with it?
I work in a place that a bar/social within the building that was open at lunchtimes. Madness really.
CRAFT? That one didn't get used around me.
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"No chance - there's a top notch health and safety culture at my place of work. Any booze on site means instant dismissal
I do remember boozy Friday afternoons when I worked in the centre of Glasgow many years ago though. Fun times and since top brass partook it also felt like a half day!!
That's because it was a half day.
We used to call Friday POETS Day in the 80s.
Friday was POETS day, with Saturday morning being CRAFT moments - oh the days, and how the hell did we get away with it?
I work in a place that a bar/social within the building that was open at lunchtimes. Madness really.
CRAFT? That one didn't get used around me.
CRAFT = Cant Remember A F'kin Thing"
Ah! I've never experienced that.
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I know one or two factories over here in Germany that have beer dispensers in the works canteen. I remember being shocked when I first saw them and was told that most people don't bother but on occasion someone would have a small glass. Throwing it down you during lunch is a British thing.
I remember a pub next to the Airbus wing factory in Broughton would have tables full of beer poured ready for the lunch time rush. I was in there one day and watched as a number of people who built plane wings threw down 4 pints in half an hour |
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"I know one or two factories over here in Germany that have beer dispensers in the works canteen. I remember being shocked when I first saw them and was told that most people don't bother but on occasion someone would have a small glass. Throwing it down you during lunch is a British thing.
I remember a pub next to the Airbus wing factory in Broughton would have tables full of beer poured ready for the lunch time rush. I was in there one day and watched as a number of people who built plane wings threw down 4 pints in half an hour"
Our relationship with alcohol does seem to be very different to most of Europe. |
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Worked at a small company oncewhere everyone would go together and get rat arsed at Friday lunch
We went under though in the end. Prob due to us being massive pissheads including the owners and no one giving a fuck
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"Worked at a small company oncewhere everyone would go together and get rat arsed at Friday lunch
We went under though in the end. Prob due to us being massive pissheads including the owners and no one giving a fuck
Ruby"
Well that's honest, at least. |
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"Drinking should not be allowed in work time full stop,it kills productivity and efficancy.
If they can afford to drink everyday they must be overpaid,reduce there pay by 20% "
Yes they used to go to the pub on a lunchtime 1or2 pints each day and then moan about not getting paid enough |
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Our relationship with alcohol does seem to be very different to most of Europe."
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Oh there coming along to meet us from what I've experienced.
When I first visited France, Italy, Switzerland, you would be lucky to meet one person who drank more than 1 drink and you'd practically never seen youngsters drinking, the last ten years that's changed alot, youngsters are just as pissed there now especially Italy and France.
The USA has developed a massive drinking culture as well unfortunately,I think the UK was just way ahead on the curve and where we've started heading back down the others are definitely on they're way up
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Our relationship with alcohol does seem to be very different to most of Europe..
Oh there coming along to meet us from what I've experienced.
When I first visited France, Italy, Switzerland, you would be lucky to meet one person who drank more than 1 drink and you'd practically never seen youngsters drinking, the last ten years that's changed alot, youngsters are just as pissed there now especially Italy and France.
The USA has developed a massive drinking culture as well unfortunately,I think the UK was just way ahead on the curve and where we've started heading back down the others are definitely on they're way up
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It may be legal but it can be such a destructive substance.
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"No chance - there's a top notch health and safety culture at my place of work. Any booze on site means instant dismissal
I do remember boozy Friday afternoons when I worked in the centre of Glasgow many years ago though. Fun times and since top brass partook it also felt like a half day!!
That's because it was a half day.
We used to call Friday POETS Day in the 80s.
Friday was POETS day, with Saturday morning being CRAFT moments - oh the days, and how the hell did we get away with it?
I work in a place that a bar/social within the building that was open at lunchtimes. Madness really."
All the MOD test sites I worked had bars in the NAFI,
It wasn't unusual for engineers to go for a lunchtime drink while being watched by the obligatory picture of her Mag and the pissed up queen mum with her pint of Guinness...
They'd then go back to working on their machine tools or better still, testing explosives...
It all seemed Ok at the time.. |
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Our relationship with alcohol does seem to be very different to most of Europe..
Oh there coming along to meet us from what I've experienced.
When I first visited France, Italy, Switzerland, you would be lucky to meet one person who drank more than 1 drink and you'd practically never seen youngsters drinking, the last ten years that's changed alot, youngsters are just as pissed there now especially Italy and France.
The USA has developed a massive drinking culture as well unfortunately,I think the UK was just way ahead on the curve and where we've started heading back down the others are definitely on they're way up
It may be legal but it can be such a destructive substance.
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It does highlight our media/political skewed view of drugs.
Having a skinfull, getting into a fight, throwing up on public transport...
All part of our colourful British culture. Given a nod and a wink by the majority.
Sit in your house zoned out on and you're the worst type of criminal.., |
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It was pretty much endemic when i went to my first posting in 76, the peer pressure to drink and drink to excess was very heavy..
the 'social' aspect yes was all part and parcel of working and playing hard but there were consequences for some..
there were bars and 'barmen' allocated as a duty to such on fire stations in the early 80's, sadly for some that led to alcohol dependency and addiction later on..
i think that we as a nation have a real problem with the levels of excess drinking but like tobacco it earns revenue for the exchequer despite the social realities of abuse etc associated with it.. |
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I used to work in a satellite operation for a large company so my team missed out on a lot of day time and after work meetings in the pub all paid for by the company! So on occasions when my team had worked hard and we had a quieter day on the horizon we would have a day of 'training' , it would start with breakfast and a morning tipple, which would then lead on to another couple, try a little more training and realise that no one had the ability to absorb anything other than alcohol so then it's get ready for the evening and have a few more! I'm sure if the Chairman and Board were aware I would of been sacked (we were a very effective team these helped I'm sure) |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
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"It does highlight our media/political skewed view of drugs.
Having a skinfull, getting into a fight, throwing up on public transport...
All part of our colourful British culture. Given a nod and a wink by the majority.
Sit in your house zoned out on and you're the worst type of criminal..,"
Alcohol costs us more, as a nation, than illegal drugs simply because it affects more people.
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
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"It was pretty much endemic when i went to my first posting in 76, the peer pressure to drink and drink to excess was very heavy..
the 'social' aspect yes was all part and parcel of working and playing hard but there were consequences for some..
there were bars and 'barmen' allocated as a duty to such on fire stations in the early 80's, sadly for some that led to alcohol dependency and addiction later on..
i think that we as a nation have a real problem with the levels of excess drinking but like tobacco it earns revenue for the exchequer despite the social realities of abuse etc associated with it.."
Over the last few years we've also seen a reduction of alcohol services (about 6 left in England). They have been merged into drug services, which gets more money. The problem is that people with a drink problem don't want to mix with people with drug problems when they are being treated and recovering.
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"I used to work in a satellite operation for a large company so my team missed out on a lot of day time and after work meetings in the pub all paid for by the company! So on occasions when my team had worked hard and we had a quieter day on the horizon we would have a day of 'training' , it would start with breakfast and a morning tipple, which would then lead on to another couple, try a little more training and realise that no one had the ability to absorb anything other than alcohol so then it's get ready for the evening and have a few more! I'm sure if the Chairman and Board were aware I would of been sacked (we were a very effective team these helped I'm sure) "
Was this after the mid-90s?
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"Yes I do get to booze in work hours "entertaining clients". All that will happen here with Lloyd's is more off site meetings and not returning until the following day!
It'll be tough to change the culture as its always been that way. Will still have the majority of old men who like a drink etc.
I'm surprised you still have the day time drinking with clients. I still see, and have, the evening client entertainment drinking but even these are getting fewer.
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I would say day time drinking is lesser, but if in the city it would be more likely to have a meting and got for lunch/ late afternoon drinks. Sometimes depending on the client we will hit the strip pubs early too. (Pound in the pot job). I guess it's what our customers like and therefore it's done. If customers started to say no then it would die out. As we can't do it when at head office. |
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"Yes I do get to booze in work hours "entertaining clients". All that will happen here with Lloyd's is more off site meetings and not returning until the following day!
It'll be tough to change the culture as its always been that way. Will still have the majority of old men who like a drink etc.
I'm surprised you still have the day time drinking with clients. I still see, and have, the evening client entertainment drinking but even these are getting fewer.
I would say day time drinking is lesser, but if in the city it would be more likely to have a meting and got for lunch/ late afternoon drinks. Sometimes depending on the client we will hit the strip pubs early too. (Pound in the pot job). I guess it's what our customers like and therefore it's done. If customers started to say no then it would die out. As we can't do it when at head office. "
Your clients sound, erm, a little unreconstructed. |
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