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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Something Iv noticed recently..

Guys who say they are straight in their profiles messaging me. Iv not problem with this really but they want to be all hush hush about it and dont want to add as a friend just in case its puts women off

Any other Trans girls have this issue?

Moreover.. Any females really put off by a man also liking Trans?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think the debate becomes ineffectual when TV's/TS's are categorised in the same question

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think the debate becomes ineffectual when TV's/TS's are categorised in the same question

I don't agree as in your category your listed as a TV/TS

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I think the debate becomes ineffectual when TV's/TS's are categorised in the same question

Im not sure what you're getting at.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think the debate becomes ineffectual when TV's/TS's are categorised in the same question

I don't agree as in your category your listed as a TV/TS

I totally agree and for many years I made it clear I fully support the many threads campaigning too site admin to award separated categorisation for TV/CD and TS/TG

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By *loria JamesTV/TS over a year ago

Durham

"I think the debate becomes ineffectual when TV's/TS's are categorised in the same question

I don't agree as in your category your listed as a TV/TS

I totally agree and for many years I made it clear I fully support the many threads campaigning too site admin to award separated categorisation for TV/CD and TS/TG

Im sure you do but it has nothing to do with the question asked in the thread and has been covered in countless other threads.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think the debate becomes ineffectual when TV's/TS's are categorised in the same question

Im not sure what you're getting at.

TV/CD is a proclivity...

TS/TG don't cross-dress and should be given the respect of choosing a gender identity that best fits them as an individual...

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By *loria JamesTV/TS over a year ago

Durham

I get it all the time but isn't an issue for me. I'm not into labels but can understand why some guys do it x.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think the debate becomes ineffectual when TV's/TS's are categorised in the same question

I don't agree as in your category your listed as a TV/TS

I totally agree and for many years I made it clear I fully support the many threads campaigning too site admin to award separated categorisation for TV/CD and TS/TG

Ah...what category would you class yourself if this happened?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think the debate becomes ineffectual when TV's/TS's are categorised in the same question

I don't agree as in your category your listed as a TV/TS

I totally agree and for many years I made it clear I fully support the many threads campaigning too site admin to award separated categorisation for TV/CD and TS/TG

Ah...what category would you class yourself if this happened?"

Bloke in a frock,,,,( crossdresser ..... as clearly explained on my profile bio

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I didnt want to get into an argument about sub-lables and gender identity but its an interesting topic.

The main thrust of my topic was about men thinking women wont fancy them if they are known to be attracted to a TS or TV and l am aware those definitions exist in isolated from each other. x

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By *otwifeHunter808Man over a year ago

Bury

Hi,I'm a st8 guy but love going to gatehouse ..love a very good looking TV suckling me but class myself as st8 is that wrong or am I Bi ..help

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I didnt want to get into an argument about sub-lables and gender identity but its an interesting topic.

The main thrust of my topic was about men thinking women wont fancy them if they are known to be attracted to a TS or TV and l am aware those definitions exist in isolated from each other. x"

Hey it's not an argument...lol

Its just as a frequent repeated topic that seldom reaches any sort of resolve partly due to the confusion and misunderstanding which seem to manifest because of the categorisation option adopted by the site....

Simply changing clothes ( TV/CD) doesn't change a persons gender and straight men don't engage in same sex activity..

TS/TG don't crossdress...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Hi,I'm a st8 guy but love going to gatehouse ..love a very good looking TV suckling me but class myself as st8 is that wrong or am I Bi ..help "

So you're bi....big deal.... embrace it...

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By *otwifeHunter808Man over a year ago

Bury

"Hi,I'm a st8 guy but love going to gatehouse ..love a very good looking TV suckling me but class myself as st8 is that wrong or am I Bi ..help

So you're bi....big deal.... embrace it...

"
that's all I needed to know but can be very confusing

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By *otwifeHunter808Man over a year ago

Bury

Any one in Manchester today lol lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think the debate becomes ineffectual when TV's/TS's are categorised in the same question

I don't agree as in your category your listed as a TV/TS

I totally agree and for many years I made it clear I fully support the many threads campaigning too site admin to award separated categorisation for TV/CD and TS/TG

Ah...what category would you class yourself if this happened?

Bloke in a frock,,,,( crossdresser ..... as clearly explained on my profile bio

Sorry I posted that whilst you were also posting a reply....basically TV or CD, how would you define the difference on them two?

Me when I put that frock on I'm a lady

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By *rinking-in-laCouple over a year ago

Bristol

"I think the debate becomes ineffectual when TV's/TS's are categorised in the same question

I don't agree as in your category your listed as a TV/TS

I totally agree and for many years I made it clear I fully support the many threads campaigning too site admin to award separated categorisation for TV/CD and TS/TG

Ah...what category would you class yourself if this happened?"

Human?

Or do we need to divide ourselves?

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By *tace 309TV/TS over a year ago

durham

Well about 80% of my messages are from straight guys? They're not really .they're bi curious at least .but I'm not complaining .i ve had some really fab meets .just enjoy it all .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Hi,I'm a st8 guy but love going to gatehouse ..love a very good looking TV suckling me but class myself as st8 is that wrong or am I Bi ..help

So you're bi....big deal.... embrace it...

that's all I needed to know but can be very confusing"

Time to change your status

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think the debate becomes ineffectual when TV's/TS's are categorised in the same question

I don't agree as in your category your listed as a TV/TS

I totally agree and for many years I made it clear I fully support the many threads campaigning too site admin to award separated categorisation for TV/CD and TS/TG

Ah...what category would you class yourself if this happened?

Human?

Or do we need to divide ourselves?"

Identity is part of the human condition

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think the debate becomes ineffectual when TV's/TS's are categorised in the same question

I don't agree as in your category your listed as a TV/TS

I totally agree and for many years I made it clear I fully support the many threads campaigning too site admin to award separated categorisation for TV/CD and TS/TG

Ah...what category would you class yourself if this happened?

Bloke in a frock,,,,( crossdresser ..... as clearly explained on my profile bio

Sorry I posted that whilst you were also posting a reply....basically TV or CD, how would you define the difference on them two?

Me when I put that frock on I'm a lady

Difficult one for me too answer, as my motivation for ""crossdressing reaches no further than the added sexual arousal I get wearing the clothes and the shoes...

I don't use make-up or have any desire to overly feminise my appearance or adopt a female persona when dressed,,,,

My user name is intentionally none gender specific....

I imagine those who consider themselves TV get a similar amount of pleasure via a more involved process where their added efforts reward them to a greater or similar state to which I'm able to get from my proclivity....

I suppose its all matter of what level of effort and commitment to our proclivities works for each individual ....

But I genuinely believe that respect TS/TG as belonging to an altogether different spectrum too TV/CD ....

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I identify as TS. l have no surgeries done but l have a female identity 24/7

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I identify as TS. l have no surgeries done but l have a female identity 24/7"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think the debate becomes ineffectual when TV's/TS's are categorised in the same question

I don't agree as in your category your listed as a TV/TS

I totally agree and for many years I made it clear I fully support the many threads campaigning too site admin to award separated categorisation for TV/CD and TS/TG

Ah...what category would you class yourself if this happened?

Bloke in a frock,,,,( crossdresser ..... as clearly explained on my profile bio

Sorry I posted that whilst you were also posting a reply....basically TV or CD, how would you define the difference on them two?

Me when I put that frock on I'm a lady

Difficult one for me too answer, as my motivation for ""crossdressing reaches no further than the added sexual arousal I get wearing the clothes and the shoes...

I don't use make-up or have any desire to overly feminise my appearance or adopt a female persona when dressed,,,,

My user name is intentionally none gender specific....

I suppose its all matter of what level of effort and commitment to our proclivities works for each individual ....

But I genuinely believe that respect TS/TG as belonging to an altogether different spectrum too TV/CD ....

I totally agree on the tg/ts thing...its just the TV/CD ....but having said that could not the both of them just have one name as one name would cover them both.

After all we don't have straight/ Bi as a category

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By *oretta and SebrinaCouple (MM) over a year ago

Rubery

"I think the debate becomes ineffectual when TV's/TS's are categorised in the same question

"
yes.x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think the debate becomes ineffectual when TV's/TS's are categorised in the same question

I don't agree as in your category your listed as a TV/TS

I totally agree and for many years I made it clear I fully support the many threads campaigning too site admin to award separated categorisation for TV/CD and TS/TG

Ah...what category would you class yourself if this happened?

Bloke in a frock,,,,( crossdresser ..... as clearly explained on my profile bio

Sorry I posted that whilst you were also posting a reply....basically TV or CD, how would you define the difference on them two?

Me when I put that frock on I'm a lady

Difficult one for me too answer, as my motivation for ""crossdressing reaches no further than the added sexual arousal I get wearing the clothes and the shoes...

I don't use make-up or have any desire to overly feminise my appearance or adopt a female persona when dressed,,,,

My user name is intentionally none gender specific....

I suppose its all matter of what level of effort and commitment to our proclivities works for each individual ....

But I genuinely believe that respect TS/TG as belonging to an altogether different spectrum too TV/CD ....

I totally agree on the tg/ts thing...its just the TV/CD ....but having said that could not the both of them just have one name as one name would cover them both.

After all we don't have straight/ Bi as a category

I can understand that perhaps some TV's might feel justifiably peeved too be lumped in with CD's in that same way I would feel tad hard done by being called a hairy panty wearer ....

But yeah but that straight/bi category needs sort'in or we could just relentlessly mock those people who don't recognise the universally accepted behaviours that define sexuality .....

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By *osieWoman over a year ago

Wembley

"I think the debate becomes ineffectual when TV's/TS's are categorised in the same question

I don't agree as in your category your listed as a TV/TS

I totally agree and for many years I made it clear I fully support the many threads campaigning too site admin to award separated categorisation for TV/CD and TS/TG

Ah...what category would you class yourself if this happened?

Human?

Or do we need to divide ourselves?"

You are not 'human'; you are a 'couple'

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think the debate becomes ineffectual when TV's/TS's are categorised in the same question

I don't agree as in your category your listed as a TV/TS

I totally agree and for many years I made it clear I fully support the many threads campaigning too site admin to award separated categorisation for TV/CD and TS/TG

Ah...what category would you class yourself if this happened?

Bloke in a frock,,,,( crossdresser ..... as clearly explained on my profile bio

Sorry I posted that whilst you were also posting a reply....basically TV or CD, how would you define the difference on them two?

Me when I put that frock on I'm a lady

Difficult one for me too answer, as my motivation for ""crossdressing reaches no further than the added sexual arousal I get wearing the clothes and the shoes...

I don't use make-up or have any desire to overly feminise my appearance or adopt a female persona when dressed,,,,

My user name is intentionally none gender specific....

I suppose its all matter of what level of effort and commitment to our proclivities works for each individual ....

But I genuinely believe that respect TS/TG as belonging to an altogether different spectrum too TV/CD ....

I totally agree on the tg/ts thing...its just the TV/CD ....but having said that could not the both of them just have one name as one name would cover them both.

After all we don't have straight/ Bi as a category

I can understand that perhaps some TV's might feel justifiably peeved too be lumped in with CD's in that same way I would feel tad hard done by being called a hairy panty wearer ....

But yeah but that straight/bi category needs sort'in or we could just relentlessly mock those people who don't recognise the universally accepted behaviours that define sexuality .....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well this is interesting because in the past i have def seen women who do judge or hold it against a guy whos met a tv/ts/cd/cg and does have friends or veris from .

But saying that i know i open myself up to a backlash

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well this is interesting because in the past i have def seen women who do judge or hold it against a guy whos met a tv/ts/cd/cg and does have friends or veris from .

But saying that i know i open myself up to a backlash "

And I'm the girl to lash it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Haha oh no

Im sure i wouldnt forget it either

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By *ittleAcornMan over a year ago

visiting the beach

"Well this is interesting because in the past i have def seen women who do judge or hold it against a guy whos met a tv/ts/cd/cg and does have friends or veris from .

But saying that i know i open myself up to a backlash "

Yep, definitely seen a few profiles making that point around here.

Which answers (to a degree) the question why "straight" blokes want to keep it quiet.

There is (sadly) some stigma attached. Personally I don't know why, possibly a lack of experience/real knowledge?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well this is interesting because in the past i have def seen women who do judge or hold it against a guy whos met a tv/ts/cd/cg and does have friends or veris from .

But saying that i know i open myself up to a backlash "

Some women do not wish to meet men who engage in same sex activity and their limits and boundaries should be respected....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Everyones choices should be respected by everyone .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Everyones choices should be respected by everyone ."

I don't respect peoples who lie with the intention to deceive...

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By *rinking-in-laCouple over a year ago

Bristol

"I think the debate becomes ineffectual when TV's/TS's are categorised in the same question

I don't agree as in your category your listed as a TV/TS

I totally agree and for many years I made it clear I fully support the many threads campaigning too site admin to award separated categorisation for TV/CD and TS/TG

Ah...what category would you class yourself if this happened?

Human?

Or do we need to divide ourselves?

Identity is part of the human condition

So is xenophobia but we try to stop that making our life too awful.

Maybe we could learn to not give a shit about identity or learn to realise that if we deliberately make ourselves out to be different, people will react neagtively as well as positively and realise it is our highlighting of difference which has caused a perfectly normal part of the human condition to do something which we are pre programmed to do.

Or we could stop making such a massive issue of identity when it really really doesn't matter.

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By *rinking-in-laCouple over a year ago

Bristol

"Everyones choices should be respected by everyone ."

No if someone makes a choice which is destructive or is dangerous, then we have a duty to speak up and prevent it.

It is your right to have a choice or opinion, and it is the right of everyone else to criticise it or even mock it if that choice or opinion is obviously nonsense.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Not being funny but what is the point in not being honest ?

If you like someone tell them so

Life is too short !!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think the debate becomes ineffectual when TV's/TS's are categorised in the same question

I don't agree as in your category your listed as a TV/TS

I totally agree and for many years I made it clear I fully support the many threads campaigning too site admin to award separated categorisation for TV/CD and TS/TG

Ah...what category would you class yourself if this happened?

Human?

Or do we need to divide ourselves?

Identity is part of the human condition

So is xenophobia but we try to stop that making our life too awful.

Or we could stop making such a massive issue of identity when it really really doesn't matter."

My only issue with identity is when its intentionally used incorrectly and I'm more than comfortable with that opinion

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By *mmmMaybeCouple over a year ago

West Wales

"I didnt want to get into an argument about sub-lables and gender identity but its an interesting topic.

The main thrust of my topic was about men thinking women wont fancy them if they are known to be attracted to a TS or TV and l am aware those definitions exist in isolated from each other. x"

At the same time, if you choose friends/playmates carefully you could find yourselves playing with others and your TV/TS friend at the same time, We have done so & would do so again if all wanted to.

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By *rinking-in-laCouple over a year ago

Bristol

"I think the debate becomes ineffectual when TV's/TS's are categorised in the same question

I don't agree as in your category your listed as a TV/TS

I totally agree and for many years I made it clear I fully support the many threads campaigning too site admin to award separated categorisation for TV/CD and TS/TG

Ah...what category would you class yourself if this happened?

Human?

Or do we need to divide ourselves?

Identity is part of the human condition

So is xenophobia but we try to stop that making our life too awful.

Or we could stop making such a massive issue of identity when it really really doesn't matter.

My only issue with identity is when its intentionally used incorrectly and I'm more than comfortable with that opinion

That's perfectly fair.

However if we got rid of gender as a whole as it is all totally invented and simply spoke of physical sex, whilst at the same time doing away with the notion that the shape of your body defines your role in society, then it would be near enough impossible for a person not to fit their body.

Shall we stop telling people that being male or female means you must be one way or another and simply tell them that however they feel inclined behave, dress, love and live is fine.

Then we don't need to add this invented third variable which only serves to divide, not unite.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think we all get them looking and messaging...

But if they cant show any interest in tgirls on their profiles (as if its probably a put off to woman) i wont have no any contact(messaging etc)with them full stop.

I now have a standard copy/paste messsge for those who send random friends adds too

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think the debate becomes ineffectual when TV's/TS's are categorised in the same question

I don't agree as in your category your listed as a TV/TS

I totally agree and for many years I made it clear I fully support the many threads campaigning too site admin to award separated categorisation for TV/CD and TS/TG

Ah...what category would you class yourself if this happened?

Human?

Or do we need to divide ourselves?

Identity is part of the human condition

So is xenophobia but we try to stop that making our life too awful.

Or we could stop making such a massive issue of identity when it really really doesn't matter.

My only issue with identity is when its intentionally used incorrectly and I'm more than comfortable with that opinion

That's perfectly fair.

Shall we stop telling people that being male or female means you must be one way or another and simply tell them that however they feel inclined behave, dress, love and live is fine.

Then we don't need to add this invented third variable which only serves to divide, not unite."

Utopian ideology does not resolve or address the issues of real life .....

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By *rinking-in-laCouple over a year ago

Bristol

"I think the debate becomes ineffectual when TV's/TS's are categorised in the same question

I don't agree as in your category your listed as a TV/TS

I totally agree and for many years I made it clear I fully support the many threads campaigning too site admin to award separated categorisation for TV/CD and TS/TG

Ah...what category would you class yourself if this happened?

Human?

Or do we need to divide ourselves?

Identity is part of the human condition

So is xenophobia but we try to stop that making our life too awful.

Or we could stop making such a massive issue of identity when it really really doesn't matter.

My only issue with identity is when its intentionally used incorrectly and I'm more than comfortable with that opinion

That's perfectly fair.

Shall we stop telling people that being male or female means you must be one way or another and simply tell them that however they feel inclined behave, dress, love and live is fine.

Then we don't need to add this invented third variable which only serves to divide, not unite.

Utopian ideology does not resolve or address the issues of real life .....

It's not utopian

That's my point. We have made a choice to complicate matters and now people find profit from keeping us all apart. Stop doing it and all gets better. Just ignore the stupid shit and it goes away. Simple.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think the debate becomes ineffectual when TV's/TS's are categorised in the same question

I don't agree as in your category your listed as a TV/TS

I totally agree and for many years I made it clear I fully support the many threads campaigning too site admin to award separated categorisation for TV/CD and TS/TG

Ah...what category would you class yourself if this happened?

Human?

Or do we need to divide ourselves?

Identity is part of the human condition

So is xenophobia but we try to stop that making our life too awful.

Or we could stop making such a massive issue of identity when it really really doesn't matter.

My only issue with identity is when its intentionally used incorrectly and I'm more than comfortable with that opinion

That's perfectly fair.

Shall we stop telling people that being male or female means you must be one way or another and simply tell them that however they feel inclined behave, dress, love and live is fine.

Then we don't need to add this invented third variable which only serves to divide, not unite.

Utopian ideology does not resolve or address the issues of real life .....

It's not utopian

I don't ignore the stupid shit.....but I certainty don't perpetuate its existence by tolerating it in some vain hope one day those people who wilfully disregard the known truth attempting to deceive others finally see the shiny light of Shangri-La and repent their dishonest ways

I live in the real world now....

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By *rinking-in-laCouple over a year ago

Bristol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"[Removed by poster at 13/02/17 19:13:31]"

Anyway.,,, Thoroughly enjoyed our brief exchange and I genuinely respect your view...... However tonight I'm on a promise, cock to suck and all that other malarkey

Enjoy the rest of your evening

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

This is still going on. l mean... if you like Trans, why be ashamed of it. l just had a guy basically begging me to keep his 'secret'. who the hell am i going to tell anyway?

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By *ikki ShooterTV/TS over a year ago

Epsom

"This is still going on. l mean... if you like Trans, why be ashamed of it. l just had a guy basically begging me to keep his 'secret'. who the hell am i going to tell anyway?

His mother! ??

To the Original question. Yes i get lots of "straight" guys that like the idea of getting it on with me. I make a point of confirming they understand im not your regular girl.

If they continue to chase then its game on... If not.... Their loss.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I often get straight males message me. I usually try to politely point out that I'm not technically a woman and that their profile says they are straight. The last one messaged me back to say he is straight but his cock is bi!

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By *atie ShayTV/TS over a year ago

Yep happens quite a lot.

The problem for me is I know what I want and meets when dressed are that scarce for me that when I do arrange one I don't want to be someone's experiment or someone's first time... I want someone experienced who knows how to handle me

So for that reason I normally offer a polite reply along the lines of "sorry but you're not my type".

If it's someone experienced but just wants to keep things quiet then I'm cool with that, after all Katie is my big secret!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I get it all the time but isn't an issue for me. I'm not into labels but can understand why some guys do it x."

omg I love labels

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yep happens quite a lot.

So for that reason I normally offer a polite reply along the lines of "sorry but you're not my type".

If it's someone experienced but just wants to keep things quiet then I'm cool with that, after all Katie is my big secret! "

my big secret is in my knickers

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well i dont know what the outcome of thread is or will be. But i thank all you girls for getting together and giving me the chance to drool over all your pics. Thanks.

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By *ayde164TV/TS over a year ago

Manchester

"Yep happens quite a lot.

So for that reason I normally offer a polite reply along the lines of "sorry but you're not my type".

If it's someone experienced but just wants to keep things quiet then I'm cool with that, after all Katie is my big secret!

my big secret is in my knickers

Don't you mean photoshop

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

From a single female point of view I do not judge who a potential playmate has slept with. I enjoy experiencing new things and like to explore with like minded people. Recently me and a friend have been trying to find a TS who would enjoy playing with both male and female - finding this quite difficult. X

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There's a double standard , bi women seem to be very sought after.. are encouraged, lauded as liberated.

Bi men are ostracized and shunned conversely , viewed with suspicion and mistrust. It's not surprising to me most choose to be very discreet.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple over a year ago

West Wales

"There's a double standard , bi women seem to be very sought after.. are encouraged, lauded as liberated.

Bi men are ostracized and shunned conversely , viewed with suspicion and mistrust. It's not surprising to me most choose to be very discreet."

Tbh I don't understand it at all except for the blood givers. Why would you lie about who you are just to possibly get a fuck from someone who COULD be a homophobe? Or at least have some issues with you.

Is getting your cock wet really more important than being yourself ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There's a double standard , bi women seem to be very sought after.. are encouraged, lauded as liberated.

Bi men are ostracized and shunned conversely , viewed with suspicion and mistrust. It's not surprising to me most choose to be very discreet."

Social conditioning... it's slowly changing. From a tgirl viewpoint, some seem to love the fact they turn straight men on... maybe they are, maybe they're justifying it to themselves. Maybe if they're looking for one offs, it doesn't really matter. Some of us think that if they'll lie about their sexuality to get a fuck, they're probably lie about whatever it takes to get what they want in life generally...

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By *ayde BlanchardTV/TS over a year ago

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"There's a double standard , bi women seem to be very sought after.. are encouraged, lauded as liberated.

Bi men are ostracized and shunned conversely , viewed with suspicion and mistrust. It's not surprising to me most choose to be very discreet.

Totally true

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm always concerned when messaged by a "straight" man that they glanced at my pictures without looking at my profile and thought they'd have a crack on my pussy. For that reason I always try to confirm that they realize I'm not a woman. Of course, they never admit to making a mistake, but a lot quickly go quiet.

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