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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"I watched the original series, but now I'm watching this I don't remember a lot of the original xxxx "
I watched the original too. I read the book back then too.
I have to keep looking away at the grisly bits.
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By *exysuzi and Mr.SCouple
over a year ago
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"I watched the original series, but now I'm watching this I don't remember a lot of the original xxxx
I watched the original too. I read the book back then too.
I have to keep looking away at the grisly bits.
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Sorry, this made me giggle. Imagining you sitting there going eaewwwwww xxxx Suzi |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Bit slow at moment , spose they setting the scene. will persevere I suppose"
Slow? You have to get to know the characters. They're doing it in four parts and I think it was longer in the original so it will have to have some pace to it.
LeVar Burton (Kunta Kinte from the original series) has produced this version, according to the opening credits.
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"I don't remember the first series, but then again I was only 12 when it was last aired"
I was 12 when it first aired in 1977 and remember it as it was the first prime time show I remember featuring as mostly black cast and them as the stars.
I think nearly everyone in my class at school read the book too.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Is this a re run of the original series,or a new adaptation.
I loved the original series when I was a kid back in the 70s.
Another great show around the same time was the holocaust. |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Is this a re run of the original series,or a new adaptation.
I loved the original series when I was a kid back in the 70s.
Another great show around the same time was the holocaust."
It's a new adaptation.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is this a re run of the original series,or a new adaptation.
I loved the original series when I was a kid back in the 70s.
Another great show around the same time was the holocaust.
It's a new adaptation.
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Thanks,just found it on iplayer |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Fantastic ! A new version of a great story for a new generation.
The flogging was so hard to watch, we need more things like this to remind us of our past ans make people realise that we should be compassionate to one another no mater of sex , creed or colour |
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Damn, meant to record this - will have to catch up on iPlayer, or repeats.
I remember watching the original series very clearly, it made a real impact on me. It seemed incredibly brutal then, which of course it was - man's inhumanity to man. As a kid, what struck me most was how racism endured long long after the abolition of slavery in the US and how many millions were complicit in that. |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Just finished watching it not the same as before but well done "
I don't think it could be the same as before. Audiences are different and a story about black American slavery is not uncommon now. In 1977 we hadn't seen anything that hard-hitting from the black perspective.
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"For black history month, I wish they stopped showing slave movies and showed different aspects of black history "
It was shown in America last year. It's not BHM here. I know what you are saying and the BFI had a Black Star season at the end of last year to show films covering many other aspects of black lives and history.
Chi-Raq is available. Fences and Moonlight are at the cinema from this week and next. |
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By *r Man.Man
over a year ago
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"For black history month, I wish they stopped showing slave movies and showed different aspects of black history "
Sorry, help me out here, apart from roots in the 70s and this present one, can you inform me of the other slave programs that they keep on showing, because I've missed them all, and don't hide  |
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"Is fiddler David hardwood?
No. That's Forest Whitaker."
I'm sure Forest Whitaker was also in the original series (not as fiddler), but as a rebel slave?? I think that Louis Gossett J was the original fiddler. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"For black history month, I wish they stopped showing slave movies and showed different aspects of black history "
I watched a fantastic film about the black women who worked at NASA, on the space program in the 50s to 70s. |
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"For black history month, I wish they stopped showing slave movies and showed different aspects of black history
Sorry, help me out here, apart from roots in the 70s and this present one, can you inform me of the other slave programs that they keep on showing, because I've missed them all, and don't hide "
North and South 
That was a bit sexy in places. |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"For black history month, I wish they stopped showing slave movies and showed different aspects of black history
I watched a fantastic film about the black women who worked at NASA, on the space program in the 50s to 70s. "
I want to see that. |
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"For black history month, I wish they stopped showing slave movies and showed different aspects of black history
Sorry, help me out here, apart from roots in the 70s and this present one, can you inform me of the other slave programs that they keep on showing, because I've missed them all, and don't hide "
12 years a slave
Amistad
Django
Gone with the wind
Free state of jones
Lincoln
And that one with opera Winfrey in it.
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By *r Man.Man
over a year ago
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"For black history month, I wish they stopped showing slave movies and showed different aspects of black history
Sorry, help me out here, apart from roots in the 70s and this present one, can you inform me of the other slave programs that they keep on showing, because I've missed them all, and don't hide
12 years a slave
Amistad
Django
Gone with the wind
Free state of jones
Lincoln
And that one with opera Winfrey in it.
Colour purple
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"For black history month, I wish they stopped showing slave movies and showed different aspects of black history
Sorry, help me out here, apart from roots in the 70s and this present one, can you inform me of the other slave programs that they keep on showing, because I've missed them all, and don't hide
12 years a slave
Amistad
Django
Gone with the wind
Free state of jones
Lincoln
And that one with opera Winfrey in it.
Colour purple
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Thank you. For the life of me I couldn't remember it. |
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By *edylogosMan
over a year ago
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"For black history month, I wish they stopped showing slave movies and showed different aspects of black history "
Unfortunately when black history is bought up, slavery is always going to be the number one topic of conversation.
It left such a stain on the world, and still reverberates today that people tend to focus on it, sad but true |
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By *r Man.Man
over a year ago
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"For black history month, I wish they stopped showing slave movies and showed different aspects of black history
Sorry, help me out here, apart from roots in the 70s and this present one, can you inform me of the other slave programs that they keep on showing, because I've missed them all, and don't hide
12 years a slave
Amistad
Django
Gone with the wind
Free state of jones
Lincoln
And that one with opera Winfrey in it.
Colour purple
Thank you. For the life of me I couldn't remember it. "
The test was for the youngen |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"For black history month, I wish they stopped showing slave movies and showed different aspects of black history
I watched a fantastic film about the black women who worked at NASA, on the space program in the 50s to 70s.
I want to see that."
It's quite emotional in places. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"For black history month, I wish they stopped showing slave movies and showed different aspects of black history
Unfortunately when black history is bought up, slavery is always going to be the number one topic of conversation.
It left such a stain on the world, and still reverberates today that people tend to focus on it, sad but true "
To be honest, I don't think it's something that we should ever be allowed to forget. |
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By *r Man.Man
over a year ago
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"Would be nice to see a more balanced view on slavery as a whole. You'd think that only Europeans took slaves from the media."
Arabs and Africans enslaved Africans, and then the Europeans saw a way to make real money re commodities, is that balanced enough. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Would be nice to see a more balanced view on slavery as a whole. You'd think that only Europeans took slaves from the media.
Arabs and Africans enslaved Africans, and then the Europeans saw a way to make real money re commodities, is that balanced enough."
Arab and African slavery was different to European in terms of the displacement of people, wiping out identities, slaves dying slaves whereas in the Arab world slaves can buy there freedom, also the European slavery in Africa via colonialism has ruined Africa till today |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Episode two - it has a violence warning on it.
Watched it all on kodi....want to know the end? 
Erm... I'll plod on with ordinary telly.
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Binge watching is the way forward....like watching a 6 hour film |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Watched it online last night. I had a proper emotional breakdown. I was sobbing! I don't think I've ever been so emotional over anything on the telly... "
I've been surprised at how moving I have found it. I saw the first version, read the book and went through the emotional mill then. It's a powerful story. The book is called Roots: The Saga of an American Family and that is what made it such a big hit back in 1977.
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"Watched it online last night. I had a proper emotional breakdown. I was sobbing! I don't think I've ever been so emotional over anything on the telly...
I've been surprised at how moving I have found it. I saw the first version, read the book and went through the emotional mill then. It's a powerful story. The book is called Roots: The Saga of an American Family and that is what made it such a big hit back in 1977.
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Thanks, I quite want to read it |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Would be nice to see a more balanced view on slavery as a whole. You'd think that only Europeans took slaves from the media.
Arabs and Africans enslaved Africans, and then the Europeans saw a way to make real money re commodities, is that balanced enough.
Arab and African slavery was different to European in terms of the displacement of people, wiping out identities, slaves dying slaves whereas in the Arab world slaves can buy there freedom, also the European slavery in Africa via colonialism has ruined Africa till today"
Africa was a mess before Europeans even arrived. It was post European Reneissence after all. I saw an discussion with a Chinese businessman and an African guy. He wasn't constrained by the usual stuff we are so he just came out and said he couldn't understand why they were still so rubbish. He said that the Chinese didn't even have the railroads and motorways in the 80s that African nations had in times of Empire. He just couldn't comprehend it.
Slaves are still kept all across the Middle East.
And I don't know where you are getting the idea that only Europeans wiped out their slave's identity. That's far from the truth.
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Not sure I am enjoying this at all. I felt quite wiped out with emotion at the end. Violence Oh so graphic.
I enjoyed the first series but imagine I cant remember it now. I suppose I have grown up since then.
Someone asked about children watching. Im not sure they should.
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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago
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I have downloaded the first episode haven't got round to seeing it
Unfortunately the original series I first watched on vhs from my nan which is a bit raw at moment (nan passed away this week)
I have both the first original series and the follow up on iTunes and it is very good
I think it is important to watch. Even more so if you have American heritage (grandfather was American)
Will try to watch it this weekend |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I found both episodes hard hitting in places. We should never forget that slaves were treated like animals. It made me think and cry in places. "
Animals were treated better. |
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I remember watching the first series. It was the first and only TV programme that affected me. It was dramatisation, I could only imagine the reality, especially as my ancestors were slaves taken from Ghana to Jamaica.
I will not be watching this new series. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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thanks for posting this ..... the title of this thread took me back to the days of skanking to tiger sound system playing kunte kinte by the revolutionaries in butetown .... great memories
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBkq9BnxDmY |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Would be nice to see a more balanced view on slavery as a whole. You'd think that only Europeans took slaves from the media.
Arabs and Africans enslaved Africans, and then the Europeans saw a way to make real money re commodities, is that balanced enough.
Arab and African slavery was different to European in terms of the displacement of people, wiping out identities, slaves dying slaves whereas in the Arab world slaves can buy there freedom, also the European slavery in Africa via colonialism has ruined Africa till today
Africa was a mess before Europeans even arrived. It was post European Reneissence after all. I saw an discussion with a Chinese businessman and an African guy. He wasn't constrained by the usual stuff we are so he just came out and said he couldn't understand why they were still so rubbish. He said that the Chinese didn't even have the railroads and motorways in the 80s that African nations had in times of Empire. He just couldn't comprehend it.
Slaves are still kept all across the Middle East.
And I don't know where you are getting the idea that only Europeans wiped out their slave's identity. That's far from the truth.
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Before Europeans Africans already had what they needed, empires and kingdoms established. they didn't have western influence which has caused the destruction of Africa today, yes there's still slaves in the Middle East and guess what there's slaves right here in the uk too, as I said it's not only European slavery that wiped out identity it's is them however who did it larger scale. The worst slavery in those times was European.
It was actually in the Reneisennce Africans introduced soap and bathing to Europeans, food for thought |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Africans were enslaving other Africans,it wasn't just Europeans that enslaved them.doesnt make it right,but it was happening well before Europeans landed in Africa. |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Africans were enslaving other Africans,it wasn't just Europeans that enslaved them.doesnt make it right,but it was happening well before Europeans landed in Africa."
Which is fully acknowledged and covered in Roots. European enslavement was a different kettle of fish and the 'they did it first' doesn't get around that. Nor does it mean we shouldn't look at where that slavery led. Roots was titled as the saga of an American family. I think that was very deliberate.
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"Good grief. Cant they write a new story? Ok. Brilliant 20 years ago butc'mon? More repeats?"
Can't they write a new story 
It was about a real man and his enslavement and what happenend to him and about his family as it is today, it's not a story ffs |
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"Good grief. Cant they write a new story? Ok. Brilliant 20 years ago butc'mon? More repeats?
Can't they write a new story
It was about a real man and his enslavement and what happenend to him and about his family as it is today, it's not a story ffs
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Not complaining about the original. I watched every episode. Just seems to me that everywhere you look some film or series is being repackaged. It is a heartbreaking story and I know it is true. |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Good grief. Cant they write a new story? Ok. Brilliant 20 years ago butc'mon? More repeats?
Can't they write a new story
It was about a real man and his enslavement and what happenend to him and about his family as it is today, it's not a story ffs
Not complaining about the original. I watched every episode. Just seems to me that everywhere you look some film or series is being repackaged. It is a heartbreaking story and I know it is true."
People tend not to complain about Romeo and Juliet or Twelfth Night being remade. Some stories lend themselves to repetition with new interpretations.
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"Africans were enslaving other Africans,it wasn't just Europeans that enslaved them.doesnt make it right,but it was happening well before Europeans landed in Africa.
Which is fully acknowledged and covered in Roots. European enslavement was a different kettle of fish and the 'they did it first' doesn't get around that. Nor does it mean we shouldn't look at where that slavery led. Roots was titled as the saga of an American family. I think that was very deliberate.
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Maybe you could explain what you mean by "European enslavement was a different kettle of fish" |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Africans were enslaving other Africans,it wasn't just Europeans that enslaved them.doesnt make it right,but it was happening well before Europeans landed in Africa.
Which is fully acknowledged and covered in Roots. European enslavement was a different kettle of fish and the 'they did it first' doesn't get around that. Nor does it mean we shouldn't look at where that slavery led. Roots was titled as the saga of an American family. I think that was very deliberate.
Maybe you could explain what you mean by "European enslavement was a different kettle of fish""
Slavery to pay off debts or crime is very, very different to property slavery. Identities were taken. Language was taken. People died in vast numbers being transported in horrible conditions. Offspring born of a slave was automatically also enslaved and property with the parents having no rights to their child or the child rights to be with their parents. AND, the white Europeans decreed that black Africans were sub-human. When you have that level of identity taken away it is a vastly different kettle of fish.
I'm not going to write an essay on this as the information is out there. When people deny that the types of slavery were different they miss the point about why this slavery still affects us today.
I'm only commenting on the programme Roots now. |
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