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"It's the power of the fanny. Draws them in." Yep, it's always about the fanny. We do love those fannies | |||
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"nothing could be finer than to be in a vagina " so so true.... | |||
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"This site is shocking how single males get treated compared to single female. True there is a lot more males than females but how males get treated is totaly appaling " I agree let's take this to court | |||
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"It's the power of the fanny. Draws them in. Yep, it's always about the fanny. We do love those fannies " Especially the hairy ones | |||
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"How are single men treated shittily? Seriously, not being one myself I would be interested in finding out. Do you get random and unsolicited vag pics and one word messages? Or long, pointless C&P messages starting with 'You're stood at the bar, dressed in a tux'? Or do you get messages stating that you're up your own arse if you turn someone down? Or insulted, patronised, and derided on the forums?" So this is where I'm going wrong | |||
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"This site is shocking how single males get treated compared to single female. True there is a lot more males than females but how males get treated is totaly appaling " Are you prepared for your new arsehole? | |||
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"It's the power of the fanny. Draws them in. Yep, it's always about the fanny. We do love those fannies Especially the hairy ones " Oh yes | |||
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"Pussey sells lol." So do 6packs | |||
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"How are single men treated shittily? Seriously, not being one myself I would be interested in finding out. Do you get random and unsolicited vag pics and one word messages? Or long, pointless C&P messages starting with 'You're stood at the bar, dressed in a tux'? Or do you get messages stating that you're up your own arse if you turn someone down? Or insulted, patronised, and derided on the forums?" ^^This is quite expected for the single females on this site, I have experienced all of this as well, do you men have the same experience? | |||
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"Pussey sells lol. So do 6packs" That is right too | |||
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"How are single men treated shittily? Seriously, not being one myself I would be interested in finding out. Do you get random and unsolicited vag pics and one word messages? Or long, pointless C&P messages starting with 'You're stood at the bar, dressed in a tux'? Or do you get messages stating that you're up your own arse if you turn someone down? Or insulted, patronised, and derided on the forums? ^^This is quite expected for the single females on this site, I have experienced all of this as well, do you men have the same experience? " To be fair I am sure there are plenty of single men who do get treated shittily, but I have no idea why people think women are treated like queens on here. | |||
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"You can all be the change you want to see by treating men and women with the same level of respect and not putting women on some sort of ludicrous sex pedestal. " | |||
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"Obviously from the responses there is issues on sexuality " How do you come to that conclusion? Do enlighten us. | |||
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"You can all be the change you want to see by treating men and women with the same level of respect and not putting women on some sort of ludicrous sex pedestal. " That's a bit unfair. Society at large puts women on a sexual pedestal and men to... But to a lesser degree I guess Women are universally hotter than men to both men and women being my theory But yeah.... Single men are scum and should know their place | |||
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"Obviously from the responses there is issues on sexuality " Really? And what responses have shown this? | |||
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"Obviously from the responses there is issues on sexuality " Just have to accept it unfortunately op, just let them think they have the power. They are top of the swinging hierarchy and we are lowest of the low. | |||
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"How are single men treated shittily? Seriously, not being one myself I would be interested in finding out. Do you get random and unsolicited vag pics and one word messages? Or long, pointless C&P messages starting with 'You're stood at the bar, dressed in a tux'? Or do you get messages stating that you're up your own arse if you turn someone down? Or insulted, patronised, and derided on the forums? ^^This is quite expected for the single females on this site, I have experienced all of this as well, do you men have the same experience? To be fair I am sure there are plenty of single men who do get treated shittily, but I have no idea why people think women are treated like queens on here." and when you are treated like a queen it's only coz they wanna get into your knickers* anyway. once they've got in them you ain't special any more....lol, i'm gonnago one further and reckon while guys are fucking you they're thinking about how they're gonna go about their next conquest. *i don't wear them, it's a saying. | |||
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"You can all be the change you want to see by treating men and women with the same level of respect and not putting women on some sort of ludicrous sex pedestal. That's a bit unfair. Society at large puts women on a sexual pedestal and men to... But to a lesser degree I guess Women are universally hotter than men to both men and women being my theory But yeah.... Single men are scum and should know their place " I don't think men are scum who should know their place. But if you feel women are being unfairly put on a pedestal on here, who do you think is doing that? It ain't me, that's for sure. All the complaints I see about women expecting men to jump through hoops etc - well if men didn't bloody do it they wouldn't feel they could get away with asking. So, as I said, be the change you want to see. But maybe don't do it by dragging your treatment of everyone down to the lowest common denominator. | |||
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"But yeah.... Single men are scum and should know their place " The only people I see on here who think that are the single men themselves. There is a habit of defensiveness creeping in that shows that some single men on here really do have an appalling attitude towards the women here. Its a vicious circle that won't improve anything. | |||
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"How are single men treated shittily? Seriously, not being one myself I would be interested in finding out. Do you get random and unsolicited vag pics and one word messages? Or long, pointless C&P messages starting with 'You're stood at the bar, dressed in a tux'? Or do you get messages stating that you're up your own arse if you turn someone down? Or insulted, patronised, and derided on the forums? ^^This is quite expected for the single females on this site, I have experienced all of this as well, do you men have the same experience? To be fair I am sure there are plenty of single men who do get treated shittily, but I have no idea why people think women are treated like queens on here." I have never sent a message of abuse to any male on this site unless it is in response to one they have sent me. I have received some absolutely disgusting and abusive messages in my time, some of them I have never spoke to before either, and they have all been from single men, but I don't think I have been treated like a queen either | |||
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"Obviously from the responses there is issues on sexuality Just have to accept it unfortunately op, just let them think they have the power. They are top of the swinging hierarchy and we are lowest of the low. " Some men really do have a complex om here | |||
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"oh... single women get treated shittily as well but at least we can get a fuck easy enough to help us get over that." Yes i suppose that makes up for it. | |||
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"Obviously from the responses there is issues on sexuality Just have to accept it unfortunately op, just let them think they have the power. They are top of the swinging hierarchy and we are lowest of the low. Some men really do have a complex om here " And it's not even remotely attractive. As I said, vicious circle. Why would I be attracted to someone with such a large chip on their shoulder? | |||
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"Obviously from the responses there is issues on sexuality Just have to accept it unfortunately op, just let them think they have the power. They are top of the swinging hierarchy and we are lowest of the low. Some men really do have a complex on here And it's not even remotely attractive. As I said, vicious circle. Why would I be attracted to someone with such a large chip on their shoulder?" And some chips are huge! Really not an attractive trait in the slightest | |||
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"It's the power of the fanny. Draws them in. Yep, it's always about the fanny. We do love those fannies Especially the hairy ones " was skimming through thread...read this meaning hairy blokes | |||
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"Obviously from the responses there is issues on sexuality Just have to accept it unfortunately op, just let them think they have the power. They are top of the swinging hierarchy and we are lowest of the low. Some men really do have a complex om here " I'm not moaning I just understand how it works and empathise to a degree. Swinging is full of double standards you just have to accept them. Once you do that you change your outlook on it and focus on the things you can control. | |||
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"Some men get treated like shit Some women get treated like shit Some couples get treated like shit Next. " | |||
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"Obviously from the responses there is issues on sexuality Just have to accept it unfortunately op, just let them think they have the power. They are top of the swinging hierarchy and we are lowest of the low. Some men really do have a complex om here I'm not moaning I just understand how it works and empathise to a degree. Swinging is full of double standards you just have to accept them. Once you do that you change your outlook on it and focus on the things you can control." To be honest, this is not the first thread where you have come across as having a huge chip on your shoulder, but I agree if all showed respect to others, the site would be better for all, sadly that will just not happen, doesn't mean people have to carry on the trend | |||
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"This site is shocking how single males get treated compared to single female. True there is a lot more males than females but how males get treated is totaly appaling " no, some people are truly appalling. some people treat others with respect..your challenge here is to find and concentrate on the latter group, rather than the former group, regardless of gender..and get out on the scene more, rarely do you hear anyone speak face to face, like they do on the forums x | |||
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"We have the numbers here guys - it's time we started fighting back. SINGLE MEN UNITE!" What happened to the silhouette uniting? | |||
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"We have the numbers here guys - it's time we started fighting back. SINGLE MEN UNITE!" What happened to BURN THEM ALL? | |||
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"I can fight every war ladies. Please stop your abusive questions." | |||
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"The title says it all 'Versus' Why pit one group against another ? It is lumping your own failures as a member onto the shoulders of others There are obvious pitfalls for both sexes and, of course, for couples To me, it is quite simple Develop a format that works for you If you can't, leave Without the song and the dance " | |||
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"I can fight every war ladies. Please stop your abusive questions. " Reported. | |||
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"It is lumping your own failures as a member onto the shoulders of others" This is pretty much what it all boils down to. | |||
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"Lumping the whole site and all single males and all single females as one mass doesn't help. Some people treat others badly, that is what's wrong." agreed... | |||
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"I can fight every war ladies. Please stop your abusive questions. Reported." | |||
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"ah well...time to burst a vein in my neck" That'll be someone's fetish. | |||
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"I can fight every war ladies. Please stop your abusive questions. Reported." You can't report women. | |||
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"I've never once sent an abusive message first. And rarely do in response to an abusive message unless I'm having a "day" Being called fat, ugly, up my own arse, cunt, told I deserve to be raped. Want to know what I said before all this "thanks for the message you're not my type sorry" I'm not saying that some guys don't get treated like shit. But posts like this. Us vs them etc doesn't help. And you tend to find the guys who are complaining about being "treated badly" or "this site is full of timewasters/abusive people" are ones who've been on here for a few weeks and constantly put up statuses like that. Or guys who've been on here over a year with no verifications. Yeah. There are some horrible PEOPLE on here. But it doesn't always have to do with someones gender. I can get called a cunt by one guy and then happily talk to another guy seconds later if he's being nice to me. I don't think all guys are arseholes just because of a select few. It just makes me sad for them. " So guys that have been here for over a year with no veries is somehow negative? Is a woman with 50 veries a negative or would that be slut shaming? Why should sexual prowess be lauded in men but inabity should be used as a marker of something gone wrong? It's the complete inverse that happens to women yet when it happens it is called sexism. See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. | |||
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"We have the numbers here guys - it's time we started fighting back. SINGLE MEN UNITE!" Not sure I have enough lube to unite with that! | |||
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"I've never once sent an abusive message first. And rarely do in response to an abusive message unless I'm having a "day" Being called fat, ugly, up my own arse, cunt, told I deserve to be raped. Want to know what I said before all this "thanks for the message you're not my type sorry" I'm not saying that some guys don't get treated like shit. But posts like this. Us vs them etc doesn't help. And you tend to find the guys who are complaining about being "treated badly" or "this site is full of timewasters/abusive people" are ones who've been on here for a few weeks and constantly put up statuses like that. Or guys who've been on here over a year with no verifications. Yeah. There are some horrible PEOPLE on here. But it doesn't always have to do with someones gender. I can get called a cunt by one guy and then happily talk to another guy seconds later if he's being nice to me. I don't think all guys are arseholes just because of a select few. It just makes me sad for them. So guys that have been here for over a year with no veries is somehow negative? Is a woman with 50 veries a negative or would that be slut shaming? Why should sexual prowess be lauded in men but inabity should be used as a marker of something gone wrong? It's the complete inverse that happens to women yet when it happens it is called sexism. See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards." I think you have missed the whole point of the post as usual and twisted it to your own views | |||
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"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards." So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses. One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies. | |||
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"I've never once sent an abusive message first. And rarely do in response to an abusive message unless I'm having a "day" Being called fat, ugly, up my own arse, cunt, told I deserve to be raped. Want to know what I said before all this "thanks for the message you're not my type sorry" I'm not saying that some guys don't get treated like shit. But posts like this. Us vs them etc doesn't help. And you tend to find the guys who are complaining about being "treated badly" or "this site is full of timewasters/abusive people" are ones who've been on here for a few weeks and constantly put up statuses like that. Or guys who've been on here over a year with no verifications. Yeah. There are some horrible PEOPLE on here. But it doesn't always have to do with someones gender. I can get called a cunt by one guy and then happily talk to another guy seconds later if he's being nice to me. I don't think all guys are arseholes just because of a select few. It just makes me sad for them. So guys that have been here for over a year with no veries is somehow negative? Is a woman with 50 veries a negative or would that be slut shaming? Why should sexual prowess be lauded in men but inabity should be used as a marker of something gone wrong? It's the complete inverse that happens to women yet when it happens it is called sexism. See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. I think you have missed the whole point of the post as usual and twisted it to your own views " The greater point of the individual ones? The general post was very good but the certain attitude regarding men - even in good posts - is what l was highlighting. Rather than refute my point you accuse me of contorting things. That gives me confidence in the point l made. | |||
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"I've never once sent an abusive message first. And rarely do in response to an abusive message unless I'm having a "day" Being called fat, ugly, up my own arse, cunt, told I deserve to be raped. Want to know what I said before all this "thanks for the message you're not my type sorry" I'm not saying that some guys don't get treated like shit. But posts like this. Us vs them etc doesn't help. And you tend to find the guys who are complaining about being "treated badly" or "this site is full of timewasters/abusive people" are ones who've been on here for a few weeks and constantly put up statuses like that. Or guys who've been on here over a year with no verifications. Yeah. There are some horrible PEOPLE on here. But it doesn't always have to do with someones gender. I can get called a cunt by one guy and then happily talk to another guy seconds later if he's being nice to me. I don't think all guys are arseholes just because of a select few. It just makes me sad for them. So guys that have been here for over a year with no veries is somehow negative? Is a woman with 50 veries a negative or would that be slut shaming? Why should sexual prowess be lauded in men but inabity should be used as a marker of something gone wrong? It's the complete inverse that happens to women yet when it happens it is called sexism. See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards." Did I say it had to be a sexual verification? No. You're the one whose automatically turned it into that. I didn't say "guys who haven't met and fucked a ton of girls" I said guys who've been here a year with no verifications. You can go into the chat rooms talk to people and go on cam so they can see you are the same person as in your pictures. You can go to an organised social and meet people to get verifications. If you've been on the site a year and not met one person, even just for a coffee. That shows a lack of actually wanting to meet. And if you can't make the effort to go into the chat rooms and talk to someone and ask them to look at your pics and then look at you on cam, that shows a lack of seriousness. You can't complain if you don't put the effort in. I don't care how many verifications someone has. As long as they have at least one saying "this person is who they say they are". I've met guys with 2 meets and I've met guys with over 50 meets. I wouldn't meet a woman or a couple if they had no meets and I know plenty of guys who are the same... but yeah. Sharing an opinion and wanting people to be who they claim to be is totally sexist of me (!) | |||
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"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses. One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies." I wish there was a crying laughing emoji! | |||
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"I've never once sent an abusive message first. And rarely do in response to an abusive message unless I'm having a "day" Being called fat, ugly, up my own arse, cunt, told I deserve to be raped. Want to know what I said before all this "thanks for the message you're not my type sorry" I'm not saying that some guys don't get treated like shit. But posts like this. Us vs them etc doesn't help. And you tend to find the guys who are complaining about being "treated badly" or "this site is full of timewasters/abusive people" are ones who've been on here for a few weeks and constantly put up statuses like that. Or guys who've been on here over a year with no verifications. Yeah. There are some horrible PEOPLE on here. But it doesn't always have to do with someones gender. I can get called a cunt by one guy and then happily talk to another guy seconds later if he's being nice to me. I don't think all guys are arseholes just because of a select few. It just makes me sad for them. So guys that have been here for over a year with no veries is somehow negative? Is a woman with 50 veries a negative or would that be slut shaming? Why should sexual prowess be lauded in men but inabity should be used as a marker of something gone wrong? It's the complete inverse that happens to women yet when it happens it is called sexism. See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. I think you have missed the whole point of the post as usual and twisted it to your own views The greater point of the individual ones? The general post was very good but the certain attitude regarding men - even in good posts - is what l was highlighting. Rather than refute my point you accuse me of contorting things. That gives me confidence in the point l made. " In my post I specifically pointed out that I don't think all the men on here are arseholes and nor do I treat them like they are. But jumping on my post and picking out one comment, trying to twist it. Is not a valid argument. | |||
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"How are single men treated shittily? Seriously, not being one myself I would be interested in finding out. Do you get random and unsolicited vag pics and one word messages? Or long, pointless C&P messages starting with 'You're stood at the bar, dressed in a tux'? Or do you get messages stating that you're up your own arse if you turn someone down? Or insulted, patronised, and derided on the forums?" The way some guys talk to women on here is appalling, I wouldn't say women are treated good, they are by some but not all | |||
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"It's the power of the fanny. Draws them in." Literally! | |||
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"Steps away from this one ......" Chuck a grenade in and walk away. More fun that way. | |||
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"I've never once sent an abusive message first. And rarely do in response to an abusive message unless I'm having a "day" Being called fat, ugly, up my own arse, cunt, told I deserve to be raped. Want to know what I said before all this "thanks for the message you're not my type sorry" I'm not saying that some guys don't get treated like shit. But posts like this. Us vs them etc doesn't help. And you tend to find the guys who are complaining about being "treated badly" or "this site is full of timewasters/abusive people" are ones who've been on here for a few weeks and constantly put up statuses like that. Or guys who've been on here over a year with no verifications. Yeah. There are some horrible PEOPLE on here. But it doesn't always have to do with someones gender. I can get called a cunt by one guy and then happily talk to another guy seconds later if he's being nice to me. I don't think all guys are arseholes just because of a select few. It just makes me sad for them. So guys that have been here for over a year with no veries is somehow negative? Is a woman with 50 veries a negative or would that be slut shaming? Why should sexual prowess be lauded in men but inabity should be used as a marker of something gone wrong? It's the complete inverse that happens to women yet when it happens it is called sexism. See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. I think you have missed the whole point of the post as usual and twisted it to your own views The greater point of the individual ones? The general post was very good but the certain attitude regarding men - even in good posts - is what l was highlighting. Rather than refute my point you accuse me of contorting things. That gives me confidence in the point l made. " You have a history of twisting peoples words to suit your own view of the women on this site or even the site in general, I am suspicious of men on here for over a year with no veris, and most often from the messages they send me, I know exactly why they have never met anyone! Some social skills it seems can't be taught or learned | |||
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"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses. One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies." And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad. It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? | |||
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"I've never once sent an abusive message first. And rarely do in response to an abusive message unless I'm having a "day" Being called fat, ugly, up my own arse, cunt, told I deserve to be raped. Want to know what I said before all this "thanks for the message you're not my type sorry" I'm not saying that some guys don't get treated like shit. But posts like this. Us vs them etc doesn't help. And you tend to find the guys who are complaining about being "treated badly" or "this site is full of timewasters/abusive people" are ones who've been on here for a few weeks and constantly put up statuses like that. Or guys who've been on here over a year with no verifications. Yeah. There are some horrible PEOPLE on here. But it doesn't always have to do with someones gender. I can get called a cunt by one guy and then happily talk to another guy seconds later if he's being nice to me. I don't think all guys are arseholes just because of a select few. It just makes me sad for them. So guys that have been here for over a year with no veries is somehow negative? Is a woman with 50 veries a negative or would that be slut shaming? Why should sexual prowess be lauded in men but inabity should be used as a marker of something gone wrong? It's the complete inverse that happens to women yet when it happens it is called sexism. See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. I think you have missed the whole point of the post as usual and twisted it to your own views The greater point of the individual ones? The general post was very good but the certain attitude regarding men - even in good posts - is what l was highlighting. Rather than refute my point you accuse me of contorting things. That gives me confidence in the point l made. You have a history of twisting peoples words to suit your own view of the women on this site or even the site in general, I am suspicious of men on here for over a year with no veris, and most often from the messages they send me, I know exactly why they have never met anyone! Some social skills it seems can't be taught or learned " My point exactly. And also, just to add to the point of "guys who can be creepy" - my profile has been looked at by a guy who has made a comment about this exact forum post in his status... hes out of my age range.. not saying he would have. But why post that status and then look at one of the women who have comment on here... if not with the possible intention of sending a message or making a comment about their profile? I haven't looked at the profile of anyone in this post. Not saying every woman on this post hasn't looked.. but I havent been looked at by any women since I posted on here. Not every guy on this site is a creep or a bad guy. But some are. Same as some women are arseholes and treat guys like scum. It's a personality issue. Not a gender issue. | |||
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"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses. One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies. And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad. It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? " People only treat you as you allow yourself to be treat If guys are allowing this to happen to them then maybe they take part of the blame | |||
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"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses. One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies. And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad. It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? " Some women do that? Well your comment is clearly sexism and is against all women ever!!! SOME women. Same as SOME men. Anyone who puts up with abusive behaviour needs help in some form. I do not condone anyone abusing anyone else in order to get sex. | |||
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"I've never once sent an abusive message first. And rarely do in response to an abusive message unless I'm having a "day" Being called fat, ugly, up my own arse, cunt, told I deserve to be raped. Want to know what I said before all this "thanks for the message you're not my type sorry" I'm not saying that some guys don't get treated like shit. But posts like this. Us vs them etc doesn't help. And you tend to find the guys who are complaining about being "treated badly" or "this site is full of timewasters/abusive people" are ones who've been on here for a few weeks and constantly put up statuses like that. Or guys who've been on here over a year with no verifications. Yeah. There are some horrible PEOPLE on here. But it doesn't always have to do with someones gender. I can get called a cunt by one guy and then happily talk to another guy seconds later if he's being nice to me. I don't think all guys are arseholes just because of a select few. It just makes me sad for them. So guys that have been here for over a year with no veries is somehow negative? Is a woman with 50 veries a negative or would that be slut shaming? Why should sexual prowess be lauded in men but inabity should be used as a marker of something gone wrong? It's the complete inverse that happens to women yet when it happens it is called sexism. See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. I think you have missed the whole point of the post as usual and twisted it to your own views The greater point of the individual ones? The general post was very good but the certain attitude regarding men - even in good posts - is what l was highlighting. Rather than refute my point you accuse me of contorting things. That gives me confidence in the point l made. You have a history of twisting peoples words to suit your own view of the women on this site or even the site in general, I am suspicious of men on here for over a year with no veris, and most often from the messages they send me, I know exactly why they have never met anyone! Some social skills it seems can't be taught or learned " Do l now? I'm suspicious of anyone who's been on for that long without a veri or social. It's not about gender on that front. | |||
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"I've never once sent an abusive message first. And rarely do in response to an abusive message unless I'm having a "day" Being called fat, ugly, up my own arse, cunt, told I deserve to be raped. Want to know what I said before all this "thanks for the message you're not my type sorry" I'm not saying that some guys don't get treated like shit. But posts like this. Us vs them etc doesn't help. And you tend to find the guys who are complaining about being "treated badly" or "this site is full of timewasters/abusive people" are ones who've been on here for a few weeks and constantly put up statuses like that. Or guys who've been on here over a year with no verifications. Yeah. There are some horrible PEOPLE on here. But it doesn't always have to do with someones gender. I can get called a cunt by one guy and then happily talk to another guy seconds later if he's being nice to me. I don't think all guys are arseholes just because of a select few. It just makes me sad for them. So guys that have been here for over a year with no veries is somehow negative? Is a woman with 50 veries a negative or would that be slut shaming? Why should sexual prowess be lauded in men but inabity should be used as a marker of something gone wrong? It's the complete inverse that happens to women yet when it happens it is called sexism. See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. I think you have missed the whole point of the post as usual and twisted it to your own views The greater point of the individual ones? The general post was very good but the certain attitude regarding men - even in good posts - is what l was highlighting. Rather than refute my point you accuse me of contorting things. That gives me confidence in the point l made. You have a history of twisting peoples words to suit your own view of the women on this site or even the site in general, I am suspicious of men on here for over a year with no veris, and most often from the messages they send me, I know exactly why they have never met anyone! Some social skills it seems can't be taught or learned Do l now? I'm suspicious of anyone who's been on for that long without a veri or social. It's not about gender on that front." So your argument with me about my comment of not trusting guys who have zero verifications after a year, was just for the sake of causing an argument? | |||
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"I've never once sent an abusive message first. And rarely do in response to an abusive message unless I'm having a "day" Being called fat, ugly, up my own arse, cunt, told I deserve to be raped. Want to know what I said before all this "thanks for the message you're not my type sorry" I'm not saying that some guys don't get treated like shit. But posts like this. Us vs them etc doesn't help. And you tend to find the guys who are complaining about being "treated badly" or "this site is full of timewasters/abusive people" are ones who've been on here for a few weeks and constantly put up statuses like that. Or guys who've been on here over a year with no verifications. Yeah. There are some horrible PEOPLE on here. But it doesn't always have to do with someones gender. I can get called a cunt by one guy and then happily talk to another guy seconds later if he's being nice to me. I don't think all guys are arseholes just because of a select few. It just makes me sad for them. So guys that have been here for over a year with no veries is somehow negative? Is a woman with 50 veries a negative or would that be slut shaming? Why should sexual prowess be lauded in men but inabity should be used as a marker of something gone wrong? It's the complete inverse that happens to women yet when it happens it is called sexism. See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. I think you have missed the whole point of the post as usual and twisted it to your own views The greater point of the individual ones? The general post was very good but the certain attitude regarding men - even in good posts - is what l was highlighting. Rather than refute my point you accuse me of contorting things. That gives me confidence in the point l made. You have a history of twisting peoples words to suit your own view of the women on this site or even the site in general, I am suspicious of men on here for over a year with no veris, and most often from the messages they send me, I know exactly why they have never met anyone! Some social skills it seems can't be taught or learned Do l now? I'm suspicious of anyone who's been on for that long without a veri or social. It's not about gender on that front. So your argument with me about my comment of not trusting guys who have zero verifications after a year, was just for the sake of causing an argument? " In context, your point was specifically about men and i did say that the general point was good. And it is not argument, it's a debate/discussion. No insults have yet been exchanged as far as l can see. | |||
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" And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad." Agreed. How is that women's fault though? "It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? " I'm a feminist and can honestly say I have never heard that phrase before. I can imagine, however, the sites you might have picked it up from. | |||
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"I've never once sent an abusive message first. And rarely do in response to an abusive message unless I'm having a "day" Being called fat, ugly, up my own arse, cunt, told I deserve to be raped. Want to know what I said before all this "thanks for the message you're not my type sorry" I'm not saying that some guys don't get treated like shit. But posts like this. Us vs them etc doesn't help. And you tend to find the guys who are complaining about being "treated badly" or "this site is full of timewasters/abusive people" are ones who've been on here for a few weeks and constantly put up statuses like that. Or guys who've been on here over a year with no verifications. Yeah. There are some horrible PEOPLE on here. But it doesn't always have to do with someones gender. I can get called a cunt by one guy and then happily talk to another guy seconds later if he's being nice to me. I don't think all guys are arseholes just because of a select few. It just makes me sad for them. So guys that have been here for over a year with no veries is somehow negative? Is a woman with 50 veries a negative or would that be slut shaming? Why should sexual prowess be lauded in men but inabity should be used as a marker of something gone wrong? It's the complete inverse that happens to women yet when it happens it is called sexism. See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. I think you have missed the whole point of the post as usual and twisted it to your own views The greater point of the individual ones? The general post was very good but the certain attitude regarding men - even in good posts - is what l was highlighting. Rather than refute my point you accuse me of contorting things. That gives me confidence in the point l made. You have a history of twisting peoples words to suit your own view of the women on this site or even the site in general, I am suspicious of men on here for over a year with no veris, and most often from the messages they send me, I know exactly why they have never met anyone! Some social skills it seems can't be taught or learned Do l now? I'm suspicious of anyone who's been on for that long without a veri or social. It's not about gender on that front. So your argument with me about my comment of not trusting guys who have zero verifications after a year, was just for the sake of causing an argument? In context, your point was specifically about men and i did say that the general point was good. And it is not argument, it's a debate/discussion. No insults have yet been exchanged as far as l can see. " It was specifically about men at that point because I was specifically talking about men. I did go on to say that if someone hasn't bothered to get a verification over that amount of time its basically laziness. I didn't mean argument in that sense. I meant the argument you put across. As in debates, you "argue" for or against. | |||
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"This site is shocking how single males get treated compared to single female. True there is a lot more males than females but how males get treated is totaly appaling " Do you feel like a piece of meat? | |||
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"This site is shocking how single males get treated compared to single female. True there is a lot more males than females but how males get treated is totaly appaling " Not all single men are treated badly. Some know how to behave and are having lots and lots of fun. | |||
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"*spelling mistake* It really is disgusting. I agree. Some demographics are up for attacking though (like single men) So you just have to get used to it. What stuns me is the hypocrisy shown by the women. Oops I apologise, apparently they don't like men "moaning". They might not fuck us we deign to give opinions other than those allowed." actually its meant with the best of intentions, if we wanted to go out with a moaning whinger, wed get ourselves a husband...we avoid them, we want fun, a chilled out guy that doesnt think the whole world is against him..i dont want to meet with a miserable sod..so i advise not being seen as one, it doesnt help you x | |||
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"We have the numbers here guys - it's time we started fighting back. SINGLE MEN UNITE!" yes lets get back to the banter we had between the pussy posse and the Dorises ops showing how long I've been on here | |||
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"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses. One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies. And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad. It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? " Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman. | |||
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"As a single woman I find it the other way round " wish you wernt an ageist !! | |||
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"This site is shocking how single males get treated compared to single female. True there is a lot more males than females but how males get treated is totaly appaling " OP speaking as a male with a solo profile here , as well as being part of a couples account, and my partner have a solo female profile, I can speak from experience/direct knowledge of all three main types of profile here, and you're very much mistaken in your thinking. With my solo male profile I can honestly say I've never been treated appallingly here by any of the ladies (unfortunately the same cannot be said about some of the single males that have contacted me) and I think that as much comes down to the way I've approached and treated any of the ladies I have chatted to on here. So to say ALL single males are treated appallingly is inaccurate at best - sure some single males get what they perceive to be bad treatment, but I'd venture to suggest that that is only because of the way those individuals have acted in the first place, or down to their entitled expectations of the site. On the flip side I'm aware of some of the abusive messages that my partner receives from single males and can only say that if you want to see appalling treatment then some of the messages single ladies receive is where it's at. | |||
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"I've never once sent an abusive message first. And rarely do in response to an abusive message unless I'm having a "day" Being called fat, ugly, up my own arse, cunt, told I deserve to be raped. Want to know what I said before all this "thanks for the message you're not my type sorry" I'm not saying that some guys don't get treated like shit. But posts like this. Us vs them etc doesn't help. And you tend to find the guys who are complaining about being "treated badly" or "this site is full of timewasters/abusive people" are ones who've been on here for a few weeks and constantly put up statuses like that. Or guys who've been on here over a year with no verifications. Yeah. There are some horrible PEOPLE on here. But it doesn't always have to do with someones gender. I can get called a cunt by one guy and then happily talk to another guy seconds later if he's being nice to me. I don't think all guys are arseholes just because of a select few. It just makes me sad for them. So guys that have been here for over a year with no veries is somehow negative? Is a woman with 50 veries a negative or would that be slut shaming? Why should sexual prowess be lauded in men but inabity should be used as a marker of something gone wrong? It's the complete inverse that happens to women yet when it happens it is called sexism. See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. I think you have missed the whole point of the post as usual and twisted it to your own views " Totally agreed! | |||
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"You can all be the change you want to see by treating men and women with the same level of respect and not putting women on some sort of ludicrous sex pedestal. " More thumbs from me. | |||
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"You can all be the change you want to see by treating men and women with the same level of respect and not putting women on some sort of ludicrous sex pedestal. " She says sitting cross legged in the lotus position with round glasses and a shaved head... On a serious not that probably fell on deaf ears unfortunately, but never was a wiser true more empowering statement for the people. | |||
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"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses. One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies. And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad. It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman. Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby. " Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything. | |||
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"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses. One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies. And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad. It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman. " Sure. Blame the person being abused and give yourself an alibi. More wisdom from Ruby. | |||
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"This site is shocking how single males get treated compared to single female. True there is a lot more males than females but how males get treated is totaly appaling " I'd rather you didn't tar me with the 'single female' brush | |||
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"There aren't enough single women to come anywhere near treating single men the same way they treat us. Speaking collectively of course. " If I may add something which rings true while reading many forums....If women treated each other with more respect and less jealousy it would help the woman's cause maybe even more. It's totally shocking at times.....Just my pennies worth. | |||
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"There aren't enough single women to come anywhere near treating single men the same way they treat us. Speaking collectively of course. If I may add something which rings true while reading many forums....If women treated each other with more respect and less jealousy it would help the woman's cause maybe even more. It's totally shocking at times.....Just my pennies worth. " I agree. But you have to remember that women are as human as men, with all the same faults and foibles. Men may think we fart roses and cinnamon buns but we don't. However, people should be nicer to people across the board. And not start bawwing every time someone else pointed out that they may be being slightly dramatic. | |||
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"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses. One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies. And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad. It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman. Sure. Blame the person being abused and give yourself an alibi. More wisdom from Ruby." No, there's abuse and there's what you are talking about. Ruby is right. None of us are belittling real abuse but if men will put up with anything from a stranger on the internet for sex, that's not abuse but self flagellation and nobody is forcing them to do it. | |||
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"There aren't enough single women to come anywhere near treating single men the same way they treat us. Speaking collectively of course. " You ever seen 3 women fight?.... The fallout is like 50 men only it always last longer....so ratios maybe about right | |||
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"There aren't enough single women to come anywhere near treating single men the same way they treat us. Speaking collectively of course. If I may add something which rings true while reading many forums....If women treated each other with more respect and less jealousy it would help the woman's cause maybe even more. It's totally shocking at times.....Just my pennies worth. " Yeah, maybe keep those pennies. Just because women, in your eyes, don't treat others with more respect, it doesn't justify the shitty behaviour that occurs. I think everyone could show a bit more respect; it doesn't mean you deserve abusive messages. Oh and I forgot to include the magical passive aggressive | |||
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"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses. One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies. And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad. It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman. Sure. Blame the person being abused and give yourself an alibi. More wisdom from Ruby." I'll refer you to my response to the post you deleted. Why do I need an alibi? I don't treat anyone badly. Male or female. | |||
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"There aren't enough single women to come anywhere near treating single men the same way they treat us. Speaking collectively of course. If I may add something which rings true while reading many forums....If women treated each other with more respect and less jealousy it would help the woman's cause maybe even more. It's totally shocking at times.....Just my pennies worth. I agree. But you have to remember that women are as human as men, with all the same faults and foibles. Men may think we fart roses and cinnamon buns but we don't. However, people should be nicer to people across the board. And not start bawwing every time someone else pointed out that they may be being slightly dramatic. " Too many planks keeping eyelids open tonight...Must have all had a heluva night last night... | |||
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"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses. One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies. And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad. It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman. Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby. Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything. " You heard it here folks. I personally knew a guy that was lonely at first but scared later, as to why he never left this girl. She's hit him constantly, fucked around and then threated to get her cousins (thugs) to attack him when he went to defend himself. You don't own victimhood, nor are you fit to tell us what is. So spare me. | |||
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"This site is shocking how single males get treated compared to single female. True there is a lot more males than females but how males get treated is totaly appaling I'd rather you didn't tar me with the 'single female' brush " coments bundling single men/women/couples as having a common way of acting make no sense. There are nice/nasty people in all realtionship statuses. | |||
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"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses. One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies. And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad. It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman. Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby. Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything. You heard it here folks. I personally knew a guy that was lonely at first but scared later, as to why he never left this girl. She's hit him constantly, fucked around and then threated to get her cousins (thugs) to attack him when he went to defend himself. You don't own victimhood, nor are you fit to tell us what is. So spare me. " Erm, when did this post go from being about the OP and start being about physical violence, which no woman on here has remotely countenanced? | |||
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"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses. One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies. And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad. It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman. Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby. Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything. " | |||
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"There aren't enough single women to come anywhere near treating single men the same way they treat us. Speaking collectively of course. If I may add something which rings true while reading many forums....If women treated each other with more respect and less jealousy it would help the woman's cause maybe even more. It's totally shocking at times.....Just my pennies worth. Yeah, maybe keep those pennies. Just because women, in your eyes, don't treat others with more respect, it doesn't justify the shitty behaviour that occurs. I think everyone could show a bit more respect; it doesn't mean you deserve abusive messages. Oh and I forgot to include the magical passive aggressive " I don't disagree for one minute with you on that fact.... I was pointing g out the imbalance of numbers was irrelevant and sorting out the home first is a good start and only start where change happens... Be the change you want to see in the world as Ghandi so eloquently and succinctly said....Then practiced it. Must slinging from chipped shoulders only ends up one way. | |||
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"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses. One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies. And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad. It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman. Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby. Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything. You heard it here folks. I personally knew a guy that was lonely at first but scared later, as to why he never left this girl. She's hit him constantly, fucked around and then threated to get her cousins (thugs) to attack him when he went to defend himself. You don't own victimhood, nor are you fit to tell us what is. So spare me. " Spare you what? Where have I claimed to "own victimhood"? And what on earth does the relationship of this guy you know have to do with men being taken advantage of for sex? You're turning this, as usual, into a rant about how men have it worse in life which bears no resemblance whatsoever to anything that anyone was actually talking about. If your acquaintance was abused by his girlfriend then clearly she's to blame for that abuse, as the abuser. If your acquaintance was on a website and would "literally do anything for sex" like paying for hotel rooms or being ripped off for gangbangs then you're describing a wholly different scenario, and it's his fault. | |||
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"Obviously from the responses there is issues on sexuality Just have to accept it unfortunately op, just let them think they have the power. They are top of the swinging hierarchy and we are lowest of the low. Some men really do have a complex om here And it's not even remotely attractive. As I said, vicious circle. Why would I be attracted to someone with such a large chip on their shoulder?" Depends if he's got salt and vinegar.... | |||
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"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses. One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies. And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad. It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman. Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby. Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything. You heard it here folks. I personally knew a guy that was lonely at first but scared later, as to why he never left this girl. She's hit him constantly, fucked around and then threated to get her cousins (thugs) to attack him when he went to defend himself. You don't own victimhood, nor are you fit to tell us what is. So spare me. Erm, when did this post go from being about the OP and start being about physical violence, which no woman on here has remotely countenanced?" Since he realised his argument was so weak he needed to throw domestic abuse into the mix | |||
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"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses. One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies. And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad. It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman. Sure. Blame the person being abused and give yourself an alibi. More wisdom from Ruby. No, there's abuse and there's what you are talking about. Ruby is right. None of us are belittling real abuse but if men will put up with anything from a stranger on the internet for sex, that's not abuse but self flagellation and nobody is forcing them to do it." Do you think that I was describing the abusive relationships that some men find themselves in, in just that one sentence? Or do you think that I'm summarising greatly for the sake of convenience? No matter the reason, for sex or other, an abusive relationship is just that. If you guys can't bare to acknowledge the men in those relationships because it fucks with the women = victim narrative that we've been fed since the 50s then that's not my problem and screams of what I've been talking about. Women staying due to lonliess = abuse. Men staying for intimacy and sex = self flaggelation? Wow. Oh there l go contorting things again. How will l ever get a fuck? | |||
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"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses. One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies. And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad. It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman. Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby. Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything. You heard it here folks. I personally knew a guy that was lonely at first but scared later, as to why he never left this girl. She's hit him constantly, fucked around and then threated to get her cousins (thugs) to attack him when he went to defend himself. You don't own victimhood, nor are you fit to tell us what is. So spare me. Erm, when did this post go from being about the OP and start being about physical violence, which no woman on here has remotely countenanced?" I can't speak for anyone else on here or off of here...There maybe some there may not be....However the post was about treating others inappropriately...so it hasn't gone off the track yet unlike many posts. | |||
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"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses. One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies. And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad. It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman. Sure. Blame the person being abused and give yourself an alibi. More wisdom from Ruby. No, there's abuse and there's what you are talking about. Ruby is right. None of us are belittling real abuse but if men will put up with anything from a stranger on the internet for sex, that's not abuse but self flagellation and nobody is forcing them to do it. Do you think that I was describing the abusive relationships that some men find themselves in, in just that one sentence? Or do you think that I'm summarising greatly for the sake of convenience? No matter the reason, for sex or other, an abusive relationship is just that. If you guys can't bare to acknowledge the men in those relationships because it fucks with the women = victim narrative that we've been fed since the 50s then that's not my problem and screams of what I've been talking about. Women staying due to lonliess = abuse. Men staying for intimacy and sex = self flaggelation? Wow. Oh there l go contorting things again. How will l ever get a fuck?" What the fuck are you even talking about? | |||
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"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses. One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies. And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad. It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman. Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby. Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything. You heard it here folks. I personally knew a guy that was lonely at first but scared later, as to why he never left this girl. She's hit him constantly, fucked around and then threated to get her cousins (thugs) to attack him when he went to defend himself. You don't own victimhood, nor are you fit to tell us what is. So spare me. Erm, when did this post go from being about the OP and start being about physical violence, which no woman on here has remotely countenanced?" When taking arguments and paths of thinking to their logical conclusion wasn't taboo. Fab really should hire admins to keep threads brutally on track and prevent any other routes of thinking. | |||
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"Oh there l go contorting things again. How will l ever get a fuck?" You're using a straw man argument to try and make a point that wasn't even remotely part of what was being discussed. If you want to point out the disparity between the official treatment of male domestic abuse victims to female domestic abuse victims that's a whole different thing, and probably needs its own post. But dragging it into a post about the treatment of men on Fab, which I personally believe is nowhere near as bad as some of the men think it is, is not helping the discussion, and just delegitimises anything you're trying to say here. | |||
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"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses. One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies. And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad. It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman. Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby. Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything. You heard it here folks. I personally knew a guy that was lonely at first but scared later, as to why he never left this girl. She's hit him constantly, fucked around and then threated to get her cousins (thugs) to attack him when he went to defend himself. You don't own victimhood, nor are you fit to tell us what is. So spare me. Erm, when did this post go from being about the OP and start being about physical violence, which no woman on here has remotely countenanced? When taking arguments and paths of thinking to their logical conclusion wasn't taboo. Fab really should hire admins to keep threads brutally on track and prevent any other routes of thinking." I think you're getting unnecessarily emotional about something that has nothing to do with this post. | |||
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"I don't disagree for one minute with you on that fact.... I was pointing g out the imbalance of numbers was irrelevant and sorting out the home first is a good start and only start where change happens... Be the change you want to see in the world as Ghandi so eloquently and succinctly said....Then practiced it. Must slinging from chipped shoulders only ends up one way. " I'm not even going to pretend I can comprehend that nonsense; it's evident you're not aware of the abuse that even the 'nicest' members can receive on here. The onus and fault should be on the people who send shit not those who receive it regardless of how many emojis are used to suggest otherwise. | |||
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"...women are as human as men, with all the same faults and foibles. Men may think we fart roses and cinnamon buns but we don't." Speak for yourself. | |||
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"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses. One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies. And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad. It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman. Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby. Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything. You heard it here folks. I personally knew a guy that was lonely at first but scared later, as to why he never left this girl. She's hit him constantly, fucked around and then threated to get her cousins (thugs) to attack him when he went to defend himself. You don't own victimhood, nor are you fit to tell us what is. So spare me. Spare you what? Where have I claimed to "own victimhood"? And what on earth does the relationship of this guy you know have to do with men being taken advantage of for sex? You're turning this, as usual, into a rant about how men have it worse in life which bears no resemblance whatsoever to anything that anyone was actually talking about. If your acquaintance was abused by his girlfriend then clearly she's to blame for that abuse, as the abuser. If your acquaintance was on a website and would "literally do anything for sex" like paying for hotel rooms or being ripped off for gangbangs then you're describing a wholly different scenario, and it's his fault. " Okay Ruby. Let's be rigid and stick to one monolithic topic even if it rubs shoulders with other related topics. Thank you. I'll pass this on that you acknowledge his suffering . How kind. | |||
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"...women are as human as men, with all the same faults and foibles. Men may think we fart roses and cinnamon buns but we don't. Speak for yourself. " Although it's more like cinnamon buns and vanilla. | |||
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"...women are as human as men, with all the same faults and foibles. Men may think we fart roses and cinnamon buns but we don't. Speak for yourself. " OK OK, maybe some do. | |||
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"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses. One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies. And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad. It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman. Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby. Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything. You heard it here folks. I personally knew a guy that was lonely at first but scared later, as to why he never left this girl. She's hit him constantly, fucked around and then threated to get her cousins (thugs) to attack him when he went to defend himself. You don't own victimhood, nor are you fit to tell us what is. So spare me. Erm, when did this post go from being about the OP and start being about physical violence, which no woman on here has remotely countenanced? I can't speak for anyone else on here or off of here...There maybe some there may not be....However the post was about treating others inappropriately...so it hasn't gone off the track yet unlike many posts. " What it has highlighted is how intolerant so many are about someone having a different view...personalising it and the having a dislike sometimes deeps eaten dislike for a person holding a debate that is differing to theirs. There are some who can have good disagreements without personalising it all. That's what would be nice to read and engage in. Closes door as he exits for now. | |||
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"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses. One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies. And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad. It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman. Sure. Blame the person being abused and give yourself an alibi. More wisdom from Ruby. No, there's abuse and there's what you are talking about. Ruby is right. None of us are belittling real abuse but if men will put up with anything from a stranger on the internet for sex, that's not abuse but self flagellation and nobody is forcing them to do it. Do you think that I was describing the abusive relationships that some men find themselves in, in just that one sentence? Or do you think that I'm summarising greatly for the sake of convenience? No matter the reason, for sex or other, an abusive relationship is just that. If you guys can't bare to acknowledge the men in those relationships because it fucks with the women = victim narrative that we've been fed since the 50s then that's not my problem and screams of what I've been talking about. Women staying due to lonliess = abuse. Men staying for intimacy and sex = self flaggelation? Wow. Oh there l go contorting things again. How will l ever get a fuck?" I was talking about on here, not relationships in the real world and you knew that so don't twist my words. Nobody is forcing men on here to jump through the bloody stupid hoops some women set. But that's nothing to do with real abuse that goes on in relationships. I see this on a pretty daily basis with my job and nobody is belittling it at all, no matter who the victim is. | |||
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"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses. One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies. And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad. It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman. Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby. Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything. You heard it here folks. I personally knew a guy that was lonely at first but scared later, as to why he never left this girl. She's hit him constantly, fucked around and then threated to get her cousins (thugs) to attack him when he went to defend himself. You don't own victimhood, nor are you fit to tell us what is. So spare me. Spare you what? Where have I claimed to "own victimhood"? And what on earth does the relationship of this guy you know have to do with men being taken advantage of for sex? You're turning this, as usual, into a rant about how men have it worse in life which bears no resemblance whatsoever to anything that anyone was actually talking about. If your acquaintance was abused by his girlfriend then clearly she's to blame for that abuse, as the abuser. If your acquaintance was on a website and would "literally do anything for sex" like paying for hotel rooms or being ripped off for gangbangs then you're describing a wholly different scenario, and it's his fault. Okay Ruby. Let's be rigid and stick to one monolithic topic even if it rubs shoulders with other related topics. Thank you. I'll pass this on that you acknowledge his suffering . How kind." You know what? I should have just left it at "don't be such an arse". Knock yourself out telling your fictional friend whatever you want. | |||
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"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses. One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies. And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad. It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman. Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby. Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything. You heard it here folks. I personally knew a guy that was lonely at first but scared later, as to why he never left this girl. She's hit him constantly, fucked around and then threated to get her cousins (thugs) to attack him when he went to defend himself. You don't own victimhood, nor are you fit to tell us what is. So spare me. Erm, when did this post go from being about the OP and start being about physical violence, which no woman on here has remotely countenanced? When taking arguments and paths of thinking to their logical conclusion wasn't taboo. Fab really should hire admins to keep threads brutally on track and prevent any other routes of thinking. I think you're getting unnecessarily emotional about something that has nothing to do with this post." If you aren't allowed to stray slightly from the topic then report it. Otherwise, talk about what you want and leave me alone. | |||
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"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses. One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies. And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad. It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman. Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby. Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything. You heard it here folks. I personally knew a guy that was lonely at first but scared later, as to why he never left this girl. She's hit him constantly, fucked around and then threated to get her cousins (thugs) to attack him when he went to defend himself. You don't own victimhood, nor are you fit to tell us what is. So spare me. Spare you what? Where have I claimed to "own victimhood"? And what on earth does the relationship of this guy you know have to do with men being taken advantage of for sex? You're turning this, as usual, into a rant about how men have it worse in life which bears no resemblance whatsoever to anything that anyone was actually talking about. If your acquaintance was abused by his girlfriend then clearly she's to blame for that abuse, as the abuser. If your acquaintance was on a website and would "literally do anything for sex" like paying for hotel rooms or being ripped off for gangbangs then you're describing a wholly different scenario, and it's his fault. Okay Ruby. Let's be rigid and stick to one monolithic topic even if it rubs shoulders with other related topics. Thank you. I'll pass this on that you acknowledge his suffering . How kind. You know what? I should have just left it at "don't be such an arse". Knock yourself out telling your fictional friend whatever you want. " The trouble with self martyrdom? You can't quite get that last nail in. | |||
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"I don't disagree for one minute with you on that fact.... I was pointing g out the imbalance of numbers was irrelevant and sorting out the home first is a good start and only start where change happens... Be the change you want to see in the world as Ghandi so eloquently and succinctly said....Then practiced it. Must slinging from chipped shoulders only ends up one way. I'm not even going to pretend I can comprehend that nonsense; it's evident you're not aware of the abuse that even the 'nicest' members can receive on here. The onus and fault should be on the people who send shit not those who receive it regardless of how many emojis are used to suggest otherwise." I challenge you to get off your pedestal and stand in my shoes and walk some before making such a generalised sweeping statement. I may suggest you have no evidence as you've never met me...Will probably never meet me nor ever listen to anyone who knows me. I I've probably seen and witnessed more abuse than most on here...so you might like to rethink you absolutism statements again. No emojos required. | |||
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"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses. One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies. And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad. It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman. Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby. Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything. You heard it here folks. I personally knew a guy that was lonely at first but scared later, as to why he never left this girl. She's hit him constantly, fucked around and then threated to get her cousins (thugs) to attack him when he went to defend himself. You don't own victimhood, nor are you fit to tell us what is. So spare me. Spare you what? Where have I claimed to "own victimhood"? And what on earth does the relationship of this guy you know have to do with men being taken advantage of for sex? You're turning this, as usual, into a rant about how men have it worse in life which bears no resemblance whatsoever to anything that anyone was actually talking about. If your acquaintance was abused by his girlfriend then clearly she's to blame for that abuse, as the abuser. If your acquaintance was on a website and would "literally do anything for sex" like paying for hotel rooms or being ripped off for gangbangs then you're describing a wholly different scenario, and it's his fault. Okay Ruby. Let's be rigid and stick to one monolithic topic even if it rubs shoulders with other related topics. Thank you. I'll pass this on that you acknowledge his suffering . How kind. You know what? I should have just left it at "don't be such an arse". Knock yourself out telling your fictional friend whatever you want. The trouble with self martyrdom? You can't quite get that last nail in." Hey martyrdom is a good perk on call of duty | |||
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"See folks, this is the hypocrisy and double standards. So does that mean all women are like this? Because that's what I am seeing more and more of from some of the guys on here - some women behave badly, so we're all up our own arses. One wonders why some men are trying so hard to meet women on here if we're all such insufferable harpies. And I'm seeing it more and more from some the women. Some men will literally put up with anything for sex. Even physical abuse. It's sad. It's trendy to treat men like shit in some spheres: nay, progressive! Evidenced by such feminist nomenclature as "toxic masculinity" Oops. Did l contort things again? Oh don't be such an arse. If men are "literally putting up with anything for sex" that is not my fault as a woman. Sure. Blame them person being abuse. More wisdom from Ruby. Throwing around such bollocks as that really undermines people who are actually being abused. Don't expect me to feel sorry for someone who is so desperate for sex they'll put up with anything. You heard it here folks. I personally knew a guy that was lonely at first but scared later, as to why he never left this girl. She's hit him constantly, fucked around and then threated to get her cousins (thugs) to attack him when he went to defend himself. You don't own victimhood, nor are you fit to tell us what is. So spare me. Spare you what? Where have I claimed to "own victimhood"? And what on earth does the relationship of this guy you know have to do with men being taken advantage of for sex? You're turning this, as usual, into a rant about how men have it worse in life which bears no resemblance whatsoever to anything that anyone was actually talking about. If your acquaintance was abused by his girlfriend then clearly she's to blame for that abuse, as the abuser. If your acquaintance was on a website and would "literally do anything for sex" like paying for hotel rooms or being ripped off for gangbangs then you're describing a wholly different scenario, and it's his fault. Okay Ruby. Let's be rigid and stick to one monolithic topic even if it rubs shoulders with other related topics. Thank you. I'll pass this on that you acknowledge his suffering . How kind. You know what? I should have just left it at "don't be such an arse". Knock yourself out telling your fictional friend whatever you want. " Fictional friend? He's not my friend, more an aquintance of an aquintance, known so well because of the notoriety of his relationship. Regard anything that leaves a bitter taste as fiction though. Whatever floats your boat. | |||
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"I challenge you to get off your pedestal and stand in my shoes and walk some before making such a generalised sweeping statement. I may suggest you have no evidence as you've never met me...Will probably never meet me nor ever listen to anyone who knows me. I've probably seen and witnessed more abuse than most on here...so you might like to rethink you absolutism statements again. No emojos required." If I'm on a pedestal it's only of your placing. I stand by what I said. If people are sending horrible messages and acting horribly to others, the emphasis should be on those changing their behaviour. Not on the people receiving it. I'm not sure why you've made it a personalised attack; debate works best without that. | |||
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"Can't be arsed to read it! Can someone summarise please Sad men = women's fault." So funny x | |||
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"It's the power of the fanny. Draws them in. Yep, it's always about the fanny. We do love those fannies Especially the hairy ones was skimming through thread...read this meaning hairy blokes " Partial to hairy blokes too! | |||
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"I challenge you to get off your pedestal and stand in my shoes and walk some before making such a generalised sweeping statement. I may suggest you have no evidence as you've never met me...Will probably never meet me nor ever listen to anyone who knows me. I've probably seen and witnessed more abuse than most on here...so you might like to rethink you absolutism statements again. No emojos required. If I'm on a pedestal it's only of your placing. I stand by what I said. If people are sending horrible messages and acting horribly to others, the emphasis should be on those changing their behaviour. Not on the people receiving it. I'm not sure why you've made it a personalised attack; debate works best without that. " Please read through my postings....show me where I said the onus is on the receiver? On the contrary if you read what I have said...clearly the responsibility for anyone's actions is their own. Take ownership...That's what Ghandi implied in his statement. Secondly where have I made any personal attack too? I have just questioned not you but others on sweeping statements which seem to have no backing of evidence. Surely we should exercise the right to question things would you not agree? That's not a personal attack...Unless you take things too personally which I'd hope you don't. The forum isn't a place for those who take things personally it's supposed to be a place for open discussion and debate. | |||
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"You can all be the change you want to see by treating men and women with the same level of respect and not putting women on some sort of ludicrous sex pedestal. " | |||
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"It's the power of the fanny. Draws them in. Yep, it's always about the fanny. We do love those fannies Especially the hairy ones was skimming through thread...read this meaning hairy blokes Partial to hairy blokes too!" Lowers his hand and uffs out his chest... | |||
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"The forum isn't a place for those who take things personally it's supposed to be a place for open discussion and debate." You wrote earlier'If women treated each other with more respect and less jealousy it would help the woman's cause maybe even more'. That's the part I most disagree with - if that's not placing onus on those who are being discussed as receiving crap, I don't know what is. The personalised attack began with the pedestal comment and continued. I don't take things personally on here - unless you know me or I am interested in knowing you these are just words on a forum. | |||
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"This site is shocking how single males get treated compared to single female. True there is a lot more males than females but how males get treated is totaly appaling " To me the only treatment that is relevant are with those you meet. If you arrange a meet, they turn up on time, they respect your boundaries, you have good time, then that's all that matters. Who care's about all the people you communicate with who you are never going to meet. | |||
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"There aren't enough single women to come anywhere near treating single men the same way they treat us. Speaking collectively of course. If I may add something which rings true while reading many forums....If women treated each other with more respect and less jealousy it would help the woman's cause maybe even more. It's totally shocking at times.....Just my pennies worth. " How would women being nicer to each other make men treat us differently? | |||
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"There aren't enough single women to come anywhere near treating single men the same way they treat us. Speaking collectively of course. If I may add something which rings true while reading many forums....If women treated each other with more respect and less jealousy it would help the woman's cause maybe even more. It's totally shocking at times.....Just my pennies worth. How would women being nicer to each other make men treat us differently?" you've seen how nobody can attack bbw? that's coz women stick together there. also things like womens rights (just not being treated like a prostitute and stuff like that even), or even something as simple as not replying to mens messages. women stick together there too. when men see women wont put up with mens shit or womens it's good for us. | |||
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