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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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like hello ,Omfg did anyone see doc last night on chan 4 about woman across world wishing to be the oldest mother .Fuck me some didn't appear there actuall age .Going to the gym etc I think it's gr8 people doing that at there age it still being able to but how long are they here before the pass away n leave there poor wee bairnes at like tender age of 1-5 years .  |
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Well that woman that had twins at 67 has just died at 69. I just think its selfish.
I completely agree with any help for anyone who cannot have children naturally but once a woman goes through the change naturally ( i dont mean prematurely) then they should no longer be able to get help. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Nature does things to a womans body to prevent her having children after a certain age for a reason
I know the urge to have a baby can take over your life and there are great medical interventions that can help
But I don't like the idea of pensioners having children it does'nt seem right to me
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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years ago ppl had babies on the change in their late 40's even in their 50's they managed it was natural. But hell 60s and 70s not nice poor little mites left without mums when they wee things. Im an oldie and I love kids but hell wouldnt be fair on em. Im 54 and look after my wee g/kids as well as work full time but wouldna bring a baby into the world at my age. I cud die in my 60s and he/she without a mum . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It doesn't matter what age they appear to be - they were old even if they didn't look old
Unfortunately I fell asleep before the end and never got to see if that crazy old fool, the retired zooolgist, managed to get IVF
I hope the stupid old goat didn't, cos lets be fair, no matter how young you look, if you are old in years, you are old - simple as that and you are going to die realtively soon, or at the least be ill and dependant on your kid to look after you - UNFAIR!! - So at best the kid can look forward to being a carer at a very young age and at worst can look forward to having no-one to bring them up because the single, selfish old goat has died leaving the kid an orphan
It's a fucking disgrace and I think any IVF clinic who hasn't got ethics enough to deny these old fools treatment need to be closed down without delay and the people behind the clinics prosecuted .....  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Well that woman that had twins at 67 has just died at 69. I just think its selfish.
I completely agree with any help for anyone who cannot have children naturally but once a woman goes through the change naturally ( i dont mean prematurely) then they should no longer be able to get help. "
We watched that prog and although we feel the same as diamond regarding nature removing a woman's ability to have children after a certain age you have to look closely at the culture of India/Pakistan where a childless woman carries so much stigma - the 70y/o woman who had a baby had visitors arriving unnannounced and leaving them with cash and their best wishes. In a poverty-stricken country like I say it speaks volumes about how children are perceived as the icing on the cake.
In the UK, we have 15y/o gymslip mother's and we condemn them for it, we have trailer trash couples having litters of children and expect the welfare state to pick up the tab for it and we have women having lots of children with different men. The woman in Pakistan on that programme had yearned for a child with her husband for years and years. Who is right and who is wrong?
The children produced by these artificial methods to women who will most likely pass away a few years later will bear the stigma attached with having a pensioner for a mother. But I suspect the case may be quite different in other areas of the world where the birth of a child is considered to be one of life's pinnacles of achievement rather than yet another burden to the state. |
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activate logans run, problem solved, no more old people!!
And to think scientists now claim to have a pill that can add 20 more years! people live far too long already, humanitys worse than a virus now... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"activate logans run, problem solved, no more old people!!
And to think scientists now claim to have a pill that can add 20 more years! people live far too long already, humanitys worse than a virus now..."
well we have swine flu to sort some of them out at the moment 
Aaawwww thats an awful thing to say,slap my wrist |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"activate logans run, problem solved, no more old people!!
And to think scientists now claim to have a pill that can add 20 more years! people live far too long already, humanitys worse than a virus now...
well we have swine flu to sort some of them out at the moment
Aaawwww thats an awful thing to say,slap my wrist "
But it's true - nature's (or the government's) way of controlling the population |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Swine flu honeypot 100,000 new cases in England ah which brings me to this actually preggers Scottish lass gets taken to bloody Sen to deal with her case ah eighty then so where's all our mess gone then ?.Abroad or we don't get any treatment unless severe now total Shan likes no.
Ok ,ok about the mum thing giving life is beautifull n yes a agree it's selfish if your too old to have bairnes at such a late stage .The this g is people abroad are such more healthy than uk .Before I say this maybe abroad should contemplate surrogasy ok spellings crap my prob were all pants at something but think of poor wee couples that can't have kids here yeah .What about woman abroad that can have them for folk that can't like other day in forum theres gotta be a way to help those like themselves huh .Yes aswell theres a limit I'd say to births |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Its like the woman who was pregnant with octuplets and lost them all because she would'nt choose to have some taken away to save at least a couple of them
we are not designed to have litters of children  |
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By *lackboaWoman
over a year ago
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you go against mother nature at your peril.....there is a very good reason why women lose their fertility.....having a child and nurturing it for its first 10 - 20 years is a tiring and time consuming job...dont get me wrong, I have two beautiful boys and loved every minute of their growing up...but its no job for someone over 60....E xx |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Very true china is only permitted one child or it's huge amount to pay out to there government for a second which brings me to this question .We get so many different nationalitys coming to uk it's so unreal were also crouded for housing ,jobs and space why do we let others in as to where other countrys won't .I myself have nothing against it but other coy ttys should be more leanient like us or we shouldn't .Then again saying that some of us have foreign husbands or wives where would we be without them the two governments from either side make it so difficult to be together with there laws . |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Aren't woman different as in age for birth even here without help .I mean I thought it was around age 40-45 in uk for natural birth at safest level for a woman .All I meant about foreign woman was some countrys are able to give birth at later stages of life I mean Italians end up marrying around 30 having familly thats all .So no virtual slaps LOL cmon |
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"Aren't woman different as in age for birth even here without help .I mean I thought it was around age 40-45 in uk for natural birth at safest level for a woman .All I meant about foreign woman was some countrys are able to give birth at later stages of life I mean Italians end up marrying around 30 having familly thats all .So no virtual slaps LOL cmon "
Well from 35+ the risks of giving birth to a child with, Autism, Down syndrom and several other problems, starts to rapidly spiral so god help the risk your running at 70+..
Once saw a program with a 50+ yr old woman, paying a ton to get pregnant, everytime the tests came back that Down syndrom was likely, or another birth defect, she aborted and started all over again, she was on her 6th+ attempt!!!
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I really agree with ya hpot one of those woman lied saying in doc she was 52 I think ended up she was just under 65 I thought about this being a man .I mean I'd obviously wish to see and play with my kids growing up not mearly see them teething then pass over way I see it I've had five kids who I love with everything I have give them anything but ask them what they want they'll say more time .I couldn't have anymore now even only I'm in mid thirtys Christ I'm fit lively hyper but what if something happens to myself not being sexist even though we all make a will men in society still recieve more pay still these days I agree with equality .Woman don't get paid enough for what they do n yet they fight for it so where would that leave say my wife n kids after if money ran out ???? Answer to the widow working tryi g to make ends meet so please don't take me wrong in what I stated about the programme on tv .it's a worry fir all men n woman that we must face up to |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"activate logans run, problem solved, no more old people!!
And to think scientists now claim to have a pill that can add 20 more years! people live far too long already, humanitys worse than a virus now..."
Wow... Not sure I'd readily agree  |
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Well i'm 37 and heading for gym, just to try and keep up with my 2yr old lad, (i'm terrified i'm not going to see him grow up) wiggles is 42 and much as we would love another, but no way we would have another now.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I agree about them having kids... I'd say 50 ish is a limit really... But as for living long and healthy?? Yeah, why not.. most have invented, serviced and even paid for what we all have now.. Let them live as long as possible.. |
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Got to be honest here and say If was a kid and born to a 70yr old I would be a little embarrassed to have an 80yr old mum at 10 years of age.
I know people have reasons for having kids late but you do have to think of the offspring.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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So were all lead to believe wiggles .True yes.One of my kids births I couldve list our child or my partner I hated the day that came when she was rushed into surgery .I had to make the choice .Although I'm so way against abortion whatever we were at time 5 months in term bleeding lots actually I was asked make choice between child or partner Christ sake how can anyone do that huh?.Partner laying on table just said love you thx for loving me like fuck what are you meant to say here then take care of our baby hello .Any guy would weep his heart out such a huge decision up to you anyway thk god both turned out alright .life goes on .Then those two people become the most special in your life .nah couldn't have anymore would love to mind you love children but not fair on them .tgc |
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By *andKCouple
over a year ago
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"So were all lead to believe wiggles .True yes.One of my kids births I couldve list our child or my partner I hated the day that came when she was rushed into surgery .I had to make the choice .Although I'm so way against abortion whatever we were at time 5 months in term bleeding lots actually I was asked make choice between child or partner Christ sake how can anyone do that huh?.Partner laying on table just said love you thx for loving me like fuck what are you meant to say here then take care of our baby hello .Any guy would weep his heart out such a huge decision up to you anyway thk god both turned out alright .life goes on .Then those two people become the most special in your life .nah couldn't have anymore would love to mind you love children but not fair on them .tgc "
been there Kita but pleased to say our little one is now 4 days overdue with her own first child |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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True Freddie couldn't imagine for a minute having really old parents though sayo g that dude guess I'm fortunate bastard I'm adopted original parent were 60 when had me I was last the youngest bud not ashamed so many people adopted fuck it I say .adopted parents where in 30s when got me there Scottish other parent father Italian mom English so fortune comes in different riches to some .tgc guys  |
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"So were all lead to believe wiggles .True yes.One of my kids births I couldve list our child or my partner I hated the day that came when she was rushed into surgery .I had to make the choice .Although I'm so way against abortion whatever we were at time 5 months in term bleeding lots actually I was asked make choice between child or partner Christ sake how can anyone do that huh?.Partner laying on table just said love you thx for loving me like fuck what are you meant to say here then take care of our baby hello .Any guy would weep his heart out such a huge decision up to you anyway thk god both turned out alright .life goes on .Then those two people become the most special in your life .nah couldn't have anymore would love to mind you love children but not fair on them .tgc "
Glad they both came out good in the end, not a choice I would want to make...
but I got to ask mate, did you do everything in the superstion thread, that people say don't do, as reading alot of your posts, your lifes put even some greek tradgedys to shame :P |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"how long are they here before the pass away n leave there poor wee bairnes at like tender age of 1-5 years . "
I doubt it would hurt any less at any age ... but respect your point! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Aandk ya feeling me then huh .Something awfull isn't it ???? .See this is turning out good thread after all .For once I'm not laughing in a post this evening .I actually thought at somepoint someone would take piss but glad I've spoken n hit home to others experiences .Life is harsh a best of times it's decisions we make that determain whats in our future xxx |
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By *andKCouple
over a year ago
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"Aandk ya feeling me then huh .Something awfull isn't it ???? .See this is turning out good thread after all .For once I'm not laughing in a post this evening .I actually thought at somepoint someone would take piss but glad I've spoken n hit home to others experiences .Life is harsh a best of times it's decisions we make that determain whats in our future xxx "
I was crying on the floor in the recovery room when K came round after her ceaser op, she thought the baby hadn't survived but as I said 28 years later and her own kid is now due to enter this big harsh world  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Wouldnt care to go to superstition thread Wiggles why my post isn't in there .Some are superstitious more than others Fri13 one of them I gear from all I can answer your question .If your religious it's whole different again your in torment with both anyway thx folks see thread wasn't bad this evening tgc all bless |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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A and K my Sharon at time had flat lined here guys rush by c section aswell you'll know yourself no time .I know you pain of time our baby came out Sharon had flatlined as mentioned nurse gave me baby louise I wasn't permitted to stay .As we all do under these circumstances you hold hands obviously don't know what you two done all differ .She was still looking at me eyes wide open louise in my other arm.Then I hear the beeeeeeeeeeeee fuck overwhelmed beep beep beep omg Christ bloody scariest thing think I've ever heard two of them fine .Last one died in crash though ok that took loads therapy a fuck to much now leaving thread later |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"activate logans run, problem solved, no more old people!!
And to think scientists now claim to have a pill that can add 20 more years! people live far too long already, humanitys worse than a virus now..."
Yes, of course, shall we start with your dear old mum or dad eh? What a stupid thing to say, even in jest.
Does a 70y/o on his or her deathbed fight for the last breath the same as 30y/o would? I tend to think that the individual will grasp on to life for as long as possible.... and a woman who, through medical means, be granted her lifetime wish of bearing a child will take that opportunity if presented to her. Who is to say it is wrong? It's right for her.
My gut instinct is that she should have had her children when she was younger but, as Siren pointed out while we watching the programme, maybe the right man just never presented himself and she didn't want to have a child with a man she didn't love. That has to be commendable, doesn't it? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"someone open a thread for abreviations huh LOL
Tgc is take good care/tc is take care /ffs for fuck sake etc bye guys "
Ohh right.. well pleased you cleared that up.. Sorry for asking.
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