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over a year ago
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For me..
I found it yesterday so just in the nick of time to start my healthy eating regime tomorrow..
I found it in a pullout in the daily Fail and I'm going to give it a go |
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"For me..
I found it yesterday so just in the nick of time to start my healthy eating regime tomorrow..
I found it in a pullout in the daily Fail and I'm going to give it a go "
No don't do it just aim for subtle long term lifestyle change xx
The fail and it's sound bite science will be of no use xxx |
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Is it 5:2 or intermittent fasting? I've had colleagues who've done well on both regimes, and they're more about forming a habit than a diet as such so I can see why. |
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"Eat less, exercise more ...... jobs a good'un
if only it were that simple..
Psst. It is "
Ear RIGHT and exercise more
If ate all of my calorie allowance in Mars bars I doubt I'd lose weight. If I eat to what my body needs i have far more success |
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"right im backing out.. because im a bit over sensitive over crappy wanky 'one size fits all' bollocks that people spout on here :D "
Probably a good idea. You have your own unique challenges but the webMD brigade on here won't believe you lol |
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"Eat less, exercise more ...... jobs a good'un
if only it were that simple..
Psst. It is
Oh. And positive mental attitude and will power "
Ben my dear i have more fight and determination than you will ever know |
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"Eat less, exercise more ...... jobs a good'un
fasting.. even better "
I've done this for the past 6 months and it works. I lost 25lb in 8 weeks.
Good luck, hope it works for you too |
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"Eat less, exercise more ...... jobs a good'un
if only it were that simple..
Psst. It is
Ear RIGHT and exercise more
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That's what has worked for me the past year Miss T |
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"Eat less, exercise more ...... jobs a good'un
if only it were that simple..
Psst. It is "
That view show a total ignorance of endocrine function and is particularly cruel towards someone who has a genuine struggle with it, shame on you. |
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"Eat less, exercise more ...... jobs a good'un
fasting.. even better
I've done this for the past 6 months and it works. I lost 25lb in 8 weeks.
Good luck, hope it works for you too "
Just started this week trying a 5:2 with the 2 being lower calorie days (slowly trying with the fasting thing I think) and it's worked very well so far. Miss T |
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"Eat less, exercise more ...... jobs a good'un
fasting.. even better
I've done this for the past 6 months and it works. I lost 25lb in 8 weeks.
Good luck, hope it works for you too
Just started this week trying a 5:2 with the 2 being lower calorie days (slowly trying with the fasting thing I think) and it's worked very well so far. Miss T"
Yes, 5:2 is what I started with, on the 2 days I had 600 calories per day. I now do 6:1 as I kept losing weight after reaching my target |
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"Eat less, exercise more ...... jobs a good'un
if only it were that simple..
Psst. It is
That view show a total ignorance of endocrine function and is particularly cruel towards someone who has a genuine struggle with it, shame on you. "
So basically is that like saying if you don't agree with a diet that works for other people it must be fucking bollix.....
Because I took my dietary advice from people who've successfully managed too loose weight and keep it off......and I feel far from ignorant......too the point I wouldn't call anyone ignorant who chose a different method that worked for them |
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"Eat less, exercise more ...... jobs a good'un
if only it were that simple..
Psst. It is
That view show a total ignorance of endocrine function and is particularly cruel towards someone who has a genuine struggle with it, shame on you. "
Another person here with endocrine issues, I've found eating more is the key to losing weight, along with doing weights. Cardio and diets make me gain weight |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Eat less, exercise more ...... jobs a good'un
fasting.. even better
I've done this for the past 6 months and it works. I lost 25lb in 8 weeks.
Good luck, hope it works for you too
Just started this week trying a 5:2 with the 2 being lower calorie days (slowly trying with the fasting thing I think) and it's worked very well so far. Miss T
Yes, 5:2 is what I started with, on the 2 days I had 600 calories per day. I now do 6:1 as I kept losing weight after reaching my target"
I'm aiming for 600 on the 2 days too, I quite like it at the moment, I was afraid I'd over indulge on the other days but have managed to stick to it nicely |
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"Eat less, exercise more ...... jobs a good'un
if only it were that simple..
Psst. It is
That view show a total ignorance of endocrine function and is particularly cruel towards someone who has a genuine struggle with it, shame on you.
So basically is that like saying if you don't agree with a diet that works for other people it must be fucking bollix.....
Because I took my dietary advice from people who've successfully managed too loose weight and keep it off......and I feel far from ignorant......too the point I wouldn't call anyone ignorant who chose a different method that worked for them "
Why does any one way have to be right? What works for you works for you, and that's great but it might not work for me.
I'm on slimming world where pasta and potatoes etc can be eaten in great abandon however weeks where I eat a lot of carbs are weeks where I will stay the same or put on. Others can have carbs at every meal and lose weight. Neither one of us is right or I deed ignorant. We are use fuelling our bodies in ways which work for us.
Estate less move more I'd an incorrect statement in my eyes. Eat right move more is more accurate. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Eat less, exercise more ...... jobs a good'un
fasting.. even better
I've done this for the past 6 months and it works. I lost 25lb in 8 weeks.
Good luck, hope it works for you too
Just started this week trying a 5:2 with the 2 being lower calorie days (slowly trying with the fasting thing I think) and it's worked very well so far. Miss T
Yes, 5:2 is what I started with, on the 2 days I had 600 calories per day. I now do 6:1 as I kept losing weight after reaching my target
I'm aiming for 600 on the 2 days too, I quite like it at the moment, I was afraid I'd over indulge on the other days but have managed to stick to it nicely "
It sounds like you're doing well, let me know how you get on! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Eat less, exercise more ...... jobs a good'un
fasting.. even better
I've done this for the past 6 months and it works. I lost 25lb in 8 weeks.
Good luck, hope it works for you too
Just started this week trying a 5:2 with the 2 being lower calorie days (slowly trying with the fasting thing I think) and it's worked very well so far. Miss T
Yes, 5:2 is what I started with, on the 2 days I had 600 calories per day. I now do 6:1 as I kept losing weight after reaching my target
I'm aiming for 600 on the 2 days too, I quite like it at the moment, I was afraid I'd over indulge on the other days but have managed to stick to it nicely
It sounds like you're doing well, let me know how you get on!"
Thank you! I will |
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"Eat less, exercise more ...... jobs a good'un
if only it were that simple..
Psst. It is
That view show a total ignorance of endocrine function and is particularly cruel towards someone who has a genuine struggle with it, shame on you.
So basically is that like saying if you don't agree with a diet that works for other people it must be fucking bollix.....
Because I took my dietary advice from people who've successfully managed too loose weight and keep it off......and I feel far from ignorant......too the point I wouldn't call anyone ignorant who chose a different method that worked for them "
I wasn't addressing you, I was addressing the person mocking someone who was struggling with a genuine and complex endocrine issue.
If people are simply overweight because they have been slothful and eating too much, sure, just correct that and you will lose weight - simples.
For those humans (or animals) who have gained weight for more complex reasons, they sometimes need years of research before they can achieve the same success.
They deserve support, not mockery. I have no beef with anyone simply saying what worked for them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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A Daily Mail Diet:-
1) Eat Less - because we have empirical proof ALL FOOD WILL KILL YOU!
2) Exercise More - Chase all the Immigrants out of the county!
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Crikey, what do you eat on a 600 calorie a day day?"
Not a great deal, but if you do it cleverly you can spread it out and never be too hungry. Realising that hunger will go away after a while is half the battle. |
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If people are simply overweight because they have been slothful and eating too much, sure, just correct that and you will lose weight - simples.
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Even that isn't the right attitude. The vast majority of us are overweight simply because our metabolism slows as we age, but we don't reduce our food intake accordingly.
Horizon did an interesting programme about how different diets work for different people:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/z2csfg8
We both found the 5:2 works best for us (it means we can still have puddings ) and generally only follow it properly in January and Lent.
I would recommend trying to find a cheap 2nd hand copy of the original book on Amazon, as it is full of fascinating facts, tips & ideas.
Mr ddc |
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"Eat less, exercise more ...... jobs a good'un
if only it were that simple..
Psst. It is
That view show a total ignorance of endocrine function and is particularly cruel towards someone who has a genuine struggle with it, shame on you.
So basically is that like saying if you don't agree with a diet that works for other people it must be fucking bollix.....
Because I took my dietary advice from people who've successfully managed too loose weight and keep it off......and I feel far from ignorant......too the point I wouldn't call anyone ignorant who chose a different method that worked for them
Why does any one way have to be right? What works for you works for you, and that's great but it might not work for me.
I'm on slimming world where pasta and potatoes etc can be eaten in great abandon however weeks where I eat a lot of carbs are weeks where I will stay the same or put on. Others can have carbs at every meal and lose weight. Neither one of us is right or I deed ignorant. We are use fuelling our bodies in ways which work for us.
Estate less move more I'd an incorrect statement in my eyes. Eat right move more is more accurate. "
I have tried various plans & diets over the years - so many it's embarrassing!!
Slimming World is the only plan that's ever worked for me as I've never felt hungry or deprived. I'm not recommending the plan to anyone else just saying it's the only one I've been able to stick with & have the success u needed.
JG xx |
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"Crikey, what do you eat on a 600 calorie a day day?"
Fish or chicken breast, no potatoes, carrots & courgette. You have to be careful with some veg (eg sweetcorn) and think about how you cook stuff.
We also save 100 calories for a low-calorie pudding. |
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"Is it 5:2 or intermittent fasting? I've had colleagues who've done well on both regimes, and they're more about forming a habit than a diet as such so I can see why. "
I've tried the 5:2 and that didn't work for me as I got bored and started changing my fasting days about, thus fucking it up
this on is fasting all day and a biggish meal in the evening which gives guaranteed weightloss over a 2 week period...
I have nothing to lose but my weight ..to misquote someone or other |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is it 5:2 or intermittent fasting? I've had colleagues who've done well on both regimes, and they're more about forming a habit than a diet as such so I can see why.
I've tried the 5:2 and that didn't work for me as I got bored and started changing my fasting days about, thus fucking it up
this on is fasting all day and a biggish meal in the evening which gives guaranteed weightloss over a 2 week period...
I have nothing to lose but my weight ..to misquote someone or other "
Yeah sounds like intermittent fasting, which is basically reducing the window of time each day in which you can eat. I can imagine it would work well because unless you have a really massive meal you'll naturally be eating fewer calories than you would across 3 meals a day. |
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The five two diet means eating for five and fasting for two.
That's two sevenths of a week.
If we eat 21 meals a week, one seventh is 3 meals and two sevenths is six meals.
Why can't we just eat 2 meals a day then ?
eh ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I am doing 5:2. Fast 2 days a week (less than 600 calories), daily workout or exercise and eat normally the rest of the week. I've lost 3 stone in 6 months.
I have been able to reduce my anti-hypertensive medication significantly and I feel fantastic.
Wholeheartedly recommended |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Is it 5:2 or intermittent fasting? I've had colleagues who've done well on both regimes, and they're more about forming a habit than a diet as such so I can see why.
I've tried the 5:2 and that didn't work for me as I got bored and started changing my fasting days about, thus fucking it up
this on is fasting all day and a biggish meal in the evening which gives guaranteed weightloss over a 2 week period...
I have nothing to lose but my weight ..to misquote someone or other
Yeah sounds like intermittent fasting, which is basically reducing the window of time each day in which you can eat. I can imagine it would work well because unless you have a really massive meal you'll naturally be eating fewer calories than you would across 3 meals a day. "
exactly..
it starts with black coffee or tea for breakfast, then nothing barring an apple and some cheese (or almonds) until tea time when you have 600 calories including protein and veg or salad...
I hardly eat much during the day anyway so this should be perfect for me, and it says you can lose up to a stone in two weeks but time will tell about that |
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Fasting can certainly work and plenty of people find it fits their mentality/lifestyle. That said, a) a big part of it, like somebody else pointed out, is about habit forming, b) there is some anectdotal evidence that some women are 'non-responders', and c) there are mixed reviews about the effectiveness of 'fasted cardio'. Finally, lots of people report increased morning focus, no not that focus, when fasting.
Good luck and drink plenty of water |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The five two diet means eating for five and fasting for two.
That's two sevenths of a week.
If we eat 21 meals a week, one seventh is 3 meals and two sevenths is six meals.
Why can't we just eat 2 meals a day then ?
eh ?"
It is because of the effect fasting has on the metabolism. Here's a link to a. Ideo from the creator...
https://youtu.be/sw4RtHMmBtk |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"The five two diet means eating for five and fasting for two.
That's two sevenths of a week.
If we eat 21 meals a week, one seventh is 3 meals and two sevenths is six meals.
Why can't we just eat 2 meals a day then ?
eh ?
It is because of the effect fasting has on the metabolism. Here's a link to a. Ideo from the creator...
https://youtu.be/sw4RtHMmBtk"
I have read his book, and seen the programme...the science behind it is very interesting...but its not for everyone |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The five two diet means eating for five and fasting for two.
That's two sevenths of a week.
If we eat 21 meals a week, one seventh is 3 meals and two sevenths is six meals.
Why can't we just eat 2 meals a day then ?
eh ?
It is because of the effect fasting has on the metabolism. Here's a link to a. Ideo from the creator...
https://youtu.be/sw4RtHMmBtk
I have read his book, and seen the programme...the science behind it is very interesting...but its not for everyone"
True, but the best way find out is to try it |
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"I am doing 5:2. Fast 2 days a week (less than 600 calories), daily workout or exercise and eat normally the rest of the week. I've lost 3 stone in 6 months.
I have been able to reduce my anti-hypertensive medication significantly and I feel fantastic.
Wholeheartedly recommended "
What do you eat, normally? |
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Another diet, or healthy eating as i like to think of it, to throw in the mix is low gi which is all about managing blood sugar levels which in turn helps with weight loss. Works for me haven't felt hungry once. I do this in conjunction with daily walking and feel so much fitter. Good luck to everyone whatever you decide to do x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"The five two diet means eating for five and fasting for two.
That's two sevenths of a week.
If we eat 21 meals a week, one seventh is 3 meals and two sevenths is six meals.
Why can't we just eat 2 meals a day then ?
eh ?
It is because of the effect fasting has on the metabolism. Here's a link to a. Ideo from the creator...
https://youtu.be/sw4RtHMmBtk
I have read his book, and seen the programme...the science behind it is very interesting...but its not for everyone
True, but the best way find out is to try it "
I did, and its not for me...that's why I say its not for everybody |
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"I am doing 5:2. Fast 2 days a week (less than 600 calories), daily workout or exercise and eat normally the rest of the week. I've lost 3 stone in 6 months.
I have been able to reduce my anti-hypertensive medication significantly and I feel fantastic.
Wholeheartedly recommended
What do you eat, normally?"
Home cooked curries, moussaka, Shepherd's pie, Pasta dishes, steak plenty of vegetables or salads, not too much carbs. The odd pudding, cheese and biscuits with vino one night a week, drink cocktails one night a week. Just not overdoing carbs really. I even have the odd pie |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"Fasting can certainly work and plenty of people find it fits their mentality/lifestyle. That said, a) a big part of it, like somebody else pointed out, is about habit forming, b) there is some anectdotal evidence that some women are 'non-responders', and c) there are mixed reviews about the effectiveness of 'fasted cardio'. Finally, lots of people report increased morning focus, no not that focus, when fasting.
Good luck and drink plenty of water "
Fasting worked beautifully for me. Unfortunately I was a fucking nightmare to be around on fast days. Not sure its worth losing weight if I've pissed everyone off. |
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"Crikey, what do you eat on a 600 calorie a day day?"
Example
A two egg prawn omelette for breakfast
Fish with lots of green vegetables or salad for dinner. Drink only water or green tea.
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"Fasting can certainly work and plenty of people find it fits their mentality/lifestyle. That said, a) a big part of it, like somebody else pointed out, is about habit forming, b) there is some anectdotal evidence that some women are 'non-responders', and c) there are mixed reviews about the effectiveness of 'fasted cardio'. Finally, lots of people report increased morning focus, no not that focus, when fasting.
Good luck and drink plenty of water
Fasting worked beautifully for me. Unfortunately I was a fucking nightmare to be around on fast days. Not sure its worth losing weight if I've pissed everyone off."
I haven't had any problems like that with my approach to fasting days |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Eat less, exercise more ...... jobs a good'un
if only it were that simple..
Psst. It is
That view show a total ignorance of endocrine function and is particularly cruel towards someone who has a genuine struggle with it, shame on you.
So basically is that like saying if you don't agree with a diet that works for other people it must be fucking bollix.....
Because I took my dietary advice from people who've successfully managed too loose weight and keep it off......and I feel far from ignorant......too the point I wouldn't call anyone ignorant who chose a different method that worked for them
Why does any one way have to be right? What works for you works for you, and that's great but it might not work for me.
I'm on slimming world where pasta and potatoes etc can be eaten in great abandon however weeks where I eat a lot of carbs are weeks where I will stay the same or put on. Others can have carbs at every meal and lose weight. Neither one of us is right or I deed ignorant. We are use fuelling our bodies in ways which work for us.
Estate less move more I'd an incorrect statement in my eyes. Eat right move more is more accurate. " goes to show as weeks i stay the same or even put on have been the weeks where I've pretty much ditched the carbs...
Yet when i include them daily as long as ive eaten good food ive never failed to lose weight..
I couldn't do the fasting ones as have an issue with my metabolism and blood levels so have to almost be constantly snacking... but now i snack on a few strawberries or melon stick... 4 stone 3lb down in 37 weigh ins |
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If people are simply overweight because they have been slothful and eating too much, sure, just correct that and you will lose weight - simples.
Even that isn't the right attitude. The vast majority of us are overweight simply because our metabolism slows as we age, but we don't reduce our food intake accordingly.
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That's true in some cases for sure. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Eat less, exercise more ...... jobs a good'un
if only it were that simple..
Psst. It is
That view show a total ignorance of endocrine function and is particularly cruel towards someone who has a genuine struggle with it, shame on you.
So basically is that like saying if you don't agree with a diet that works for other people it must be fucking bollix.....
Because I took my dietary advice from people who've successfully managed too loose weight and keep it off......and I feel far from ignorant......too the point I wouldn't call anyone ignorant who chose a different method that worked for them
Why does any one way have to be right? What works for you works for you, and that's great but it might not work for me.
I'm on slimming world where pasta and potatoes etc can be eaten in great abandon however weeks where I eat a lot of carbs are weeks where I will stay the same or put on. Others can have carbs at every meal and lose weight. Neither one of us is right or I deed ignorant. We are use fuelling our bodies in ways which work for us.
Estate less move more I'd an incorrect statement in my eyes. Eat right move more is more accurate. goes to show as weeks i stay the same or even put on have been the weeks where I've pretty much ditched the carbs...
Yet when i include them daily as long as ive eaten good food ive never failed to lose weight..
I couldn't do the fasting ones as have an issue with my metabolism and blood levels so have to almost be constantly snacking... but now i snack on a few strawberries or melon stick... 4 stone 3lb down in 37 weigh ins "
that's brilliant! well done..
and just goes to show that once you do find the right diet for how your body works then its worth sticking to it |
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"Fasting can certainly work and plenty of people find it fits their mentality/lifestyle. That said, a) a big part of it, like somebody else pointed out, is about habit forming, b) there is some anectdotal evidence that some women are 'non-responders', and c) there are mixed reviews about the effectiveness of 'fasted cardio'. Finally, lots of people report increased morning focus, no not that focus, when fasting.
Good luck and drink plenty of water
Fasting worked beautifully for me. Unfortunately I was a fucking nightmare to be around on fast days. Not sure its worth losing weight if I've pissed everyone off."
This often, though not always, suggests sugar addiction... YMMV however.
I had success using a 1 pm to 9 pm 'eating window'. Like some have said, not for everyone, certainly not for me at the moment, I seem to be in greedy fucker mode. |
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"Eat less, exercise more ...... jobs a good'un
if only it were that simple..
Psst. It is "
Not a very gentleman like response. Not everyone has the ability or motivation to excerise.
Try being supportive. |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"Fasting can certainly work and plenty of people find it fits their mentality/lifestyle. That said, a) a big part of it, like somebody else pointed out, is about habit forming, b) there is some anectdotal evidence that some women are 'non-responders', and c) there are mixed reviews about the effectiveness of 'fasted cardio'. Finally, lots of people report increased morning focus, no not that focus, when fasting.
Good luck and drink plenty of water
Fasting worked beautifully for me. Unfortunately I was a fucking nightmare to be around on fast days. Not sure its worth losing weight if I've pissed everyone off.
This often, though not always, suggests sugar addiction... YMMV however.
I had success using a 1 pm to 9 pm 'eating window'. Like some have said, not for everyone, certainly not for me at the moment, I seem to be in greedy fucker mode. "
I eat no added sugar. I just don't like being not able to eat what I want. My whole family get grumpy when we're hungry. |
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"Eat less, exercise more ...... jobs a good'un
if only it were that simple..
Psst. It is
Not a very gentleman like response. Not everyone has the ability or motivation to excerise.
Try being supportive."
Some people don't want support, they want sympathy.
There are lots of people I know who have been overweight and had illnesses that prevent exercise, but they found a way and achieved goals.
I myself was nearly 16 stone at one point. I loath exercise, but got myself moving more, changed my diet a bit, cut down on the booze and lost 4 stone.
The reason I did it was my joints ached at 16 stone and I was about to buy a pair of 38inch waist trousers. I knew it would be a slippery slope.
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"Eat less, exercise more ...... jobs a good'un
if only it were that simple..
Psst. It is
That view show a total ignorance of endocrine function and is particularly cruel towards someone who has a genuine struggle with it, shame on you.
So basically is that like saying if you don't agree with a diet that works for other people it must be fucking bollix.....
Because I took my dietary advice from people who've successfully managed too loose weight and keep it off......and I feel far from ignorant......too the point I wouldn't call anyone ignorant who chose a different method that worked for them
Why does any one way have to be right? What works for you works for you, and that's great but it might not work for me.
I'm on slimming world where pasta and potatoes etc can be eaten in great abandon however weeks where I eat a lot of carbs are weeks where I will stay the same or put on. Others can have carbs at every meal and lose weight. Neither one of us is right or I deed ignorant. We are use fuelling our bodies in ways which work for us.
Estate less move more I'd an incorrect statement in my eyes. Eat right move more is more accurate. goes to show as weeks i stay the same or even put on have been the weeks where I've pretty much ditched the carbs...
Yet when i include them daily as long as ive eaten good food ive never failed to lose weight..
I couldn't do the fasting ones as have an issue with my metabolism and blood levels so have to almost be constantly snacking... but now i snack on a few strawberries or melon stick... 4 stone 3lb down in 37 weigh ins
that's brilliant! well done..
and just goes to show that once you do find the right diet for how your body works then its worth sticking to it"
Just a note x although it is goal number one to understand ones own body and work sympathetically with it it also helps to know that most humans can change how their body works, most humans have exceptionally adaptive brains and digestive systems , most bodies have the ability to adapt to the fuels we give them
For example the average western human has taught their body to use carbohydrate as primary fuel , though tenacity and habitual actions one can adapt to using fats as the "go to" fuel or even protein
I'm not suggesting anyone do so without fully understanding why and how , rather suggesting a counter point to the grossly over suggested thought that the bodys first reaction to an eating strategy is fixed , black white, and absolute
The body for most humans , can become tolerant and intolerant to foods
The endocrine system has been mentioned and this is for most a very fluid adaptive mechanism aiming for status quo , it is reactive and dynamic , in most humans and learning how to manipulate it to our advantage will always help with the psychological battle of weight management xx
5 2 works , I know why it works
However is it sustainable and healthy for everyone , in my opinion not really
I'd suggest learning to cook 4 nutritious and tasty meals each day using as little refined product as possible , drinking lots and having generally good eating habits will sustain healthy weight management and good psychological health for the very long term
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"Fasting can certainly work and plenty of people find it fits their mentality/lifestyle. That said, a) a big part of it, like somebody else pointed out, is about habit forming, b) there is some anectdotal evidence that some women are 'non-responders', and c) there are mixed reviews about the effectiveness of 'fasted cardio'. Finally, lots of people report increased morning focus, no not that focus, when fasting.
Good luck and drink plenty of water
Fasting worked beautifully for me. Unfortunately I was a fucking nightmare to be around on fast days. Not sure its worth losing weight if I've pissed everyone off.
This often, though not always, suggests sugar addiction... YMMV however.
I had success using a 1 pm to 9 pm 'eating window'. Like some have said, not for everyone, certainly not for me at the moment, I seem to be in greedy fucker mode. "
I do a similar thing, but my window is 10:30-18:30. A daily 16 hour fast and eating normally in the 8 hour window is thought to have the same heakth benefits as IF. I cut out sugar completely for 4 months a couple of years ago and it was amazing. I had so much energy all the time and never felt that awful hungry low blood sugar stomach pain. Unfortunately I didn't stick to it |
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"Fasting can certainly work and plenty of people find it fits their mentality/lifestyle. That said, a) a big part of it, like somebody else pointed out, is about habit forming, b) there is some anectdotal evidence that some women are 'non-responders', and c) there are mixed reviews about the effectiveness of 'fasted cardio'. Finally, lots of people report increased morning focus, no not that focus, when fasting.
Good luck and drink plenty of water
Fasting worked beautifully for me. Unfortunately I was a fucking nightmare to be around on fast days. Not sure its worth losing weight if I've pissed everyone off.
This often, though not always, suggests sugar addiction... YMMV however.
I had success using a 1 pm to 9 pm 'eating window'. Like some have said, not for everyone, certainly not for me at the moment, I seem to be in greedy fucker mode.
I do a similar thing, but my window is 10:30-18:30. A daily 16 hour fast and eating normally in the 8 hour window is thought to have the same heakth benefits as IF. I cut out sugar completely for 4 months a couple of years ago and it was amazing. I had so much energy all the time and never felt that awful hungry low blood sugar stomach pain. Unfortunately I didn't stick to it "
Quick question - I accidentally do something similar most days apart from a coffee with milk in the morning. But does having a coffee negate the fast? |
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"Fasting can certainly work and plenty of people find it fits their mentality/lifestyle. That said, a) a big part of it, like somebody else pointed out, is about habit forming, b) there is some anectdotal evidence that some women are 'non-responders', and c) there are mixed reviews about the effectiveness of 'fasted cardio'. Finally, lots of people report increased morning focus, no not that focus, when fasting.
Good luck and drink plenty of water
Fasting worked beautifully for me. Unfortunately I was a fucking nightmare to be around on fast days. Not sure its worth losing weight if I've pissed everyone off.
This often, though not always, suggests sugar addiction... YMMV however.
I had success using a 1 pm to 9 pm 'eating window'. Like some have said, not for everyone, certainly not for me at the moment, I seem to be in greedy fucker mode.
I do a similar thing, but my window is 10:30-18:30. A daily 16 hour fast and eating normally in the 8 hour window is thought to have the same heakth benefits as IF. I cut out sugar completely for 4 months a couple of years ago and it was amazing. I had so much energy all the time and never felt that awful hungry low blood sugar stomach pain. Unfortunately I didn't stick to it
Quick question - I accidentally do something similar most days apart from a coffee with milk in the morning. But does having a coffee negate the fast?"
No, but the milk in it might if you have several. I have white coffee in the morning first thing too. |
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"Fasting can certainly work and plenty of people find it fits their mentality/lifestyle. That said, a) a big part of it, like somebody else pointed out, is about habit forming, b) there is some anectdotal evidence that some women are 'non-responders', and c) there are mixed reviews about the effectiveness of 'fasted cardio'. Finally, lots of people report increased morning focus, no not that focus, when fasting.
Good luck and drink plenty of water
Fasting worked beautifully for me. Unfortunately I was a fucking nightmare to be around on fast days. Not sure its worth losing weight if I've pissed everyone off.
This often, though not always, suggests sugar addiction... YMMV however.
I had success using a 1 pm to 9 pm 'eating window'. Like some have said, not for everyone, certainly not for me at the moment, I seem to be in greedy fucker mode.
I do a similar thing, but my window is 10:30-18:30. A daily 16 hour fast and eating normally in the 8 hour window is thought to have the same heakth benefits as IF. I cut out sugar completely for 4 months a couple of years ago and it was amazing. I had so much energy all the time and never felt that awful hungry low blood sugar stomach pain. Unfortunately I didn't stick to it
Quick question - I accidentally do something similar most days apart from a coffee with milk in the morning. But does having a coffee negate the fast?
No, but the milk in it might if you have several. I have white coffee in the morning first thing too."
If a you've got a good mixer, try some butter and coconut oil and mix well instead of milk. |
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if only it were that simple..
Psst. It is "
Pssst, it's not. That relies on the CICO theory which simply doesn't work and current dietary advice which encourages cravings and is impossible to stick to. |
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I've been eating gluten free for last 7 weeks. Still have my take away ( oven fired Pizza) and glass of red wine. I've lost nearly 8 kg. Eat loads of fruits and veggies. Cut out cheese and white bread. Eat only red meat once a week.I am never hungry and food is not on my mind. Sex is. But that's another story. Each to their own. My sister has been on weight watchers for over 15 years. Still the same weight as she was when she started. Will power is also very important. Good luck OP |
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"Fasting can certainly work and plenty of people find it fits their mentality/lifestyle. That said, a) a big part of it, like somebody else pointed out, is about habit forming, b) there is some anectdotal evidence that some women are 'non-responders', and c) there are mixed reviews about the effectiveness of 'fasted cardio'. Finally, lots of people report increased morning focus, no not that focus, when fasting.
Good luck and drink plenty of water
Fasting worked beautifully for me. Unfortunately I was a fucking nightmare to be around on fast days. Not sure its worth losing weight if I've pissed everyone off.
This often, though not always, suggests sugar addiction... YMMV however.
I had success using a 1 pm to 9 pm 'eating window'. Like some have said, not for everyone, certainly not for me at the moment, I seem to be in greedy fucker mode.
I do a similar thing, but my window is 10:30-18:30. A daily 16 hour fast and eating normally in the 8 hour window is thought to have the same heakth benefits as IF. I cut out sugar completely for 4 months a couple of years ago and it was amazing. I had so much energy all the time and never felt that awful hungry low blood sugar stomach pain. Unfortunately I didn't stick to it
Quick question - I accidentally do something similar most days apart from a coffee with milk in the morning. But does having a coffee negate the fast?"
No nor would ingesting 10 g of fat , whey protein and carb would release insulin and thus negate the desired effect
Fat would only give 90 cals which would be burnt in about an hour priming the body to turn to ketosis for fuel xx |
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"I've been eating gluten free for last 7 weeks. Still have my take away ( oven fired Pizza) and glass of red wine. I've lost nearly 8 kg. Eat loads of fruits and veggies. Cut out cheese and white bread. Eat only red meat once a week.I am never hungry and food is not on my mind. Sex is. But that's another story. Each to their own. My sister has been on weight watchers for over 15 years. Still the same weight as she was when she started. Will power is also very important. Good luck OP "
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"Eat less, exercise more ...... jobs a good'un
if only it were that simple..
Psst. It is
Pssst, it's not. That relies on the CICO theory which simply doesn't work and current dietary advice which encourages cravings and is impossible to stick to. "
It worked for me... |
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"I've been eating gluten free for last 7 weeks. Still have my take away ( oven fired Pizza) and glass of red wine. I've lost nearly 8 kg. Eat loads of fruits and veggies. Cut out cheese and white bread. Eat only red meat once a week.I am never hungry and food is not on my mind. Sex is. But that's another story. Each to their own. My sister has been on weight watchers for over 15 years. Still the same weight as she was when she started. Will power is also very important. Good luck OP
How is it gluten free if you're still having pizza?"
I eat the pizza on my one day were I eat what I want. Cheat day is what people usually call it. |
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"I've been eating gluten free for last 7 weeks. Still have my take away ( oven fired Pizza) and glass of red wine. I've lost nearly 8 kg. Eat loads of fruits and veggies. Cut out cheese and white bread. Eat only red meat once a week.I am never hungry and food is not on my mind. Sex is. But that's another story. Each to their own. My sister has been on weight watchers for over 15 years. Still the same weight as she was when she started. Will power is also very important. Good luck OP
How is it gluten free if you're still having pizza?
I eat the pizza on my one day were I eat what I want. Cheat day is what people usually call it. "
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"I've been eating gluten free for last 7 weeks. Still have my take away ( oven fired Pizza) and glass of red wine. I've lost nearly 8 kg. Eat loads of fruits and veggies. Cut out cheese and white bread. Eat only red meat once a week.I am never hungry and food is not on my mind. Sex is. But that's another story. Each to their own. My sister has been on weight watchers for over 15 years. Still the same weight as she was when she started. Will power is also very important. Good luck OP
How is it gluten free if you're still having pizza?
I eat the pizza on my one day were I eat what I want. Cheat day is what people usually call it.
Oh right, ok. I thought you meant you were eating gluten free because of a gluten intolerance."
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if only it were that simple..
Psst. It is
Pssst, it's not. That relies on the CICO theory which simply doesn't work and current dietary advice which encourages cravings and is impossible to stick to.
It worked for me..."
I'm afraid CICO is a fundamental which cannot be undone , it works
However the type food and the timing of eating that food can indeed affect the CO part of the calculation
Jo average may have a basal metabolic rate of 2200 kcal a day however how, when and what they eat can substantially affect their BMR and of course their psychological resiliency to consuming high calorie food which are teasing all of us perpetually
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"Eat less, exercise more ...... jobs a good'un
if only it were that simple..
Psst. It is
Pssst, it's not. That relies on the CICO theory which simply doesn't work and current dietary advice which encourages cravings and is impossible to stick to.
It worked for me...
I'm afraid CICO is a fundamental which cannot be undone , it works
However the type food and the timing of eating that food can indeed affect the CO part of the calculation
Jo average may have a basal metabolic rate of 2200 kcal a day however how, when and what they eat can substantially affect their BMR and of course their psychological resiliency to consuming high calorie food which are teasing all of us perpetually
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Are you saying I didn't lose weight by eating less of what I ate before and expending more energy than I was previously doing...... |
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"Eat less, exercise more ...... jobs a good'un
if only it were that simple..
Psst. It is
Pssst, it's not. That relies on the CICO theory which simply doesn't work and current dietary advice which encourages cravings and is impossible to stick to.
It worked for me...
I'm afraid CICO is a fundamental which cannot be undone , it works
However the type food and the timing of eating that food can indeed affect the CO part of the calculation
Jo average may have a basal metabolic rate of 2200 kcal a day however how, when and what they eat can substantially affect their BMR and of course their psychological resiliency to consuming high calorie food which are teasing all of us perpetually
Are you saying I didn't lose weight by eating less of what I ate before and expending more energy than I was previously doing......"
No I'm saying that's exactly why you did xx it's a physics fundamental
I'm saying however that to achieve this fundamental it will have other considerations which will affect ones psychological and physiological ability to tip the metaphoric balance xx |
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"Eat less, exercise more ...... jobs a good'un
if only it were that simple..
Psst. It is
Pssst, it's not. That relies on the CICO theory which simply doesn't work and current dietary advice which encourages cravings and is impossible to stick to.
It worked for me...
I'm afraid CICO is a fundamental which cannot be undone , it works
However the type food and the timing of eating that food can indeed affect the CO part of the calculation
Jo average may have a basal metabolic rate of 2200 kcal a day however how, when and what they eat can substantially affect their BMR and of course their psychological resiliency to consuming high calorie food which are teasing all of us perpetually
Are you saying I didn't lose weight by eating less of what I ate before and expending more energy than I was previously doing......"
So for some their BMR would be 2200 cal
However the very act of only eating 2100 cal would reduce their energy output by over 100 cal ,
Also as they reduce carbs there body reduces water thus again needing less total cals to reduce fat content and this figure reduces as the diet succeeds
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"Eat less, exercise more ...... jobs a good'un
if only it were that simple..
Psst. It is
Pssst, it's not. That relies on the CICO theory which simply doesn't work and current dietary advice which encourages cravings and is impossible to stick to.
It worked for me...
I'm afraid CICO is a fundamental which cannot be undone , it works
However the type food and the timing of eating that food can indeed affect the CO part of the calculation
Jo average may have a basal metabolic rate of 2200 kcal a day however how, when and what they eat can substantially affect their BMR and of course their psychological resiliency to consuming high calorie food which are teasing all of us perpetually
Are you saying I didn't lose weight by eating less of what I ate before and expending more energy than I was previously doing......
No I'm saying that's exactly why you did xx it's a physics fundamental
I'm saying however that to achieve this fundamental it will have other considerations which will affect ones psychological and physiological ability to tip the metaphoric balance xx"
Ah ok..... never encountered any psychological or physiological issues...
My weight gain was simply the consequence of eating too much and not doing enough exercise,,,, the reverse of that process seemed the logical solution
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