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"Could Admin add an extra sticker/badge showing that a member has been NHS tested and clean. This could be done the same way as photo verification and it would be a very good way of sifting out the dreamers and timewasters. It would also give confidence that members take proper precautions. Comments welcome. Admin please read and consider" And how would that prove people are not dreamers and time wasters? Take responsibility for your own sexual health and not come up with ways to vilify others. | |||
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"Could Admin add an extra sticker/badge showing that a member has been NHS tested and clean. This could be done the same way as photo verification and it would be a very good way of sifting out the dreamers and timewasters. It would also give confidence that members take proper precautions. Comments welcome. Admin please read and consider" It wouldn't be a workable idea as it doesn't actually prove a person is DDF. It's just proves member was clean at time of testing and sti,s don't show if caught recently. HIV does not show straight away either and can have a delay of a few months or so. It doesn't prove they use precautions either, just that they went to clinic for testing. How is it going to stop dreamers? I have come across a lot of them myself. It's the nature of the game, suck it up mate. As for time wasters, I think a lot of members think chatting then not meeting is being a time waster. It is not, people chat to see if they want to meet, saying no is not being a time waster. XXX | |||
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" Personal responsibility should not be shirked" youre absolutely right...however posting what could be potentially spurious dates for testing couldn't actually be seen as definitive evidence of that could it? who would you have to send the text to? admin? would they then cross reference that information? against what? how much would you be prepared to pay for that? I'm all for being responsible and we have conversations with people we're looking to meet about just this sort of thing...I don't think the site should be made responsible for ensuring the evidence is available | |||
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"I think the point is in danger of being lost. In the same way that admin check photo verification They can also check an NHS screenshot. This would then be indicated on the profile with a small sticker - same way as other stickers. It could then be used to filter members who do test. It's in no way a failsafe and it does replace conversation as other members are suggesting. Further comments are welcome" It's still a theoretical policy. Even with screenshots of paperwork, it would need to be clear enough for details to be clearly verifiable. As it is, for some people, it would introduce technical details beyond their capabilities; eg, I can't do a screenshot to save my life! All joking apart, would Admin have to introduce security systems to handle copies of NHS documents? Plus, no respect to Admin, I don't want them to be looking at my private details, nor am I sure they would wish to either. | |||
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"I think the point is in danger of being lost. In the same way that admin check photo verification They can also check an NHS screenshot. This would then be indicated on the profile with a small sticker - same way as other stickers. It could then be used to filter members who do test. It's in no way a failsafe and it does replace conversation as other members are suggesting. Further comments are welcome" But they can't possibly check photo verification is a true representation of who the person claims to be unless they have access to your photo ID. in the same way as they wouldn't be able to check that the screenshot of a text was accurate unless it contains personally identifiable information to cross reference against an actual ID. I'm going to take a guess that you don't get tested in your fab name? we last got tested by THT at VA. our HIV results were instant and we had verbal feedback but it was an antibody test so could only give us information about our HIV status up to 3 months previously. would I rely on that information given to a swinging site as some kind of assurance of safety? would you? | |||
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"I think the point is in danger of being lost. In the same way that admin check photo verification They can also check an NHS screenshot. This would then be indicated on the profile with a small sticker - same way as other stickers. It could then be used to filter members who do test. It's in no way a failsafe and it does replace conversation as other members are suggesting. Further comments are welcome" Nope it wouldn't work! I don't get a text from my NHS trust. They just say no news is good news. | |||
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"The evidence is the text received from the NHS. The suggestion is that there is a place to upload it too. Two things would be proved A At the date of the test you are clean B that you take tests Personal responsibility should not be shirked" It's a text message, not a certificate, with an embossed stamp. How do admin or anyone else know it's genuine? | |||
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"I put my test dates on my profile. That is taking responsibility for myself and others. Do you?" No, because it's not for the entire world to know. Plus for that to have absolutely any meaning you also need to include the people you've had sex with since being tested, the protection you used, which sex acts you did unprotected, and which high risk sex acts you did even with protection. You'd also proberbly want to include all the people you've slept with's testing dates and the amounts of people they've had sex with as well, and if they have unprotected sex with anyone - including their partners. It's meaningless to just put a date on your profile. | |||
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"Once again the point is being missed. It's about demonstrating that you are taking some responsibility. " I get your point OP but you realise that the test is a 'spot check' if you wish and between your test date and when you play with someone you may have contracted something depending on how many people you have met. I do think your idea has merit but i just dont see it working myself and think its open to abuse | |||
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"Ridiculous suggestion. " this.. | |||
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"Once again the point is being missed. It's about demonstrating that you are taking some responsibility. " I don't think the point has been missed, I just think that what you have suggested is unworkable in the real world. | |||
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"Once again the point is being missed. It's about demonstrating that you are taking some responsibility. " But nothing you've said demonstrates anyone took responsibility. Look how easy it is: "STI Tested 5th Jan 2019" See! Easy wasn't it? I could go and write that on my profile right now. | |||
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"Ridiculous suggestion. this.. " I want a badge that verifies I have a 12" dangly fella . Seriously though, it's good the OP is thinking of ideas to make things safe, but the effort for admin to prove the veracity of the uploads would also be huge. | |||
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"It's not a failsafe, I'm not sure it could be abused as anyone putting that much effort into abusing it is clearly to be avoided anyway. The purpose of the suggestion is to add an additional filter to prevent the idiots from ruining it for decent people. I cannot understand anyone seeing this as a negative suggestion and welcome any other ideas on the subject." I find it negative. It's a total invasion of privacy and none of anyone's business. Thankfully I sincerely doubt this will ever be implemented by fab admin. | |||
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"Once again the point is being missed. It's about demonstrating that you are taking some responsibility. " You are missing the point of the counter arguments. It wouldn't work. | |||
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"Ridiculous suggestion. this.. I want a badge that verifies I have a 12" dangly fella . Seriously though, it's good the OP is thinking of ideas to make things safe, but the effort for admin to prove the veracity of the uploads would also be huge." i dont want such a badge, not cutting 5 inches off just to wear a badge.. :- D | |||
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"It's not a failsafe, I'm not sure it could be abused as anyone putting that much effort into abusing it is clearly to be avoided anyway. The purpose of the suggestion is to add an additional filter to prevent the idiots from ruining it for decent people. I cannot understand anyone seeing this as a negative suggestion and welcome any other ideas on the subject." Would we have to pass a polygraph as well to prove that we are not making shit up? | |||
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"It's not a failsafe, I'm not sure it could be abused as anyone putting that much effort into abusing it is clearly to be avoided anyway. The purpose of the suggestion is to add an additional filter to prevent the idiots from ruining it for decent people. I cannot understand anyone seeing this as a negative suggestion and welcome any other ideas on the subject." People aren't being negative - they'rei just saying it's unworkable. I'm sure many would think it's great if it could be done easily, wasn't easy to fake and didn't add hugely to admin's already heavy burden. I don't really understand the first point tbh. | |||
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"It's not a failsafe, I'm not sure it could be abused as anyone putting that much effort into abusing it is clearly to be avoided anyway. " You seriously think there is effort required to fake a few lines of text saying it's from NHS-NoReply? Photo verification is easy enough to fake give me 10 minutes in photoshop and I can 'prove' that when Neil Armstrong landed on the moon he was greeted by a fab flag with artificialname was here written on it. More to the point, like a car MOT all a clinic visit does is verify that at a point in time about 3 months before the clinic visit, you were probably clear of sti's that they were testing for. As has been said, treat every sexual encounter as if they shagged 96% of the world's population yesterday, and you may be safer. | |||
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"Perhaps you have missed the point. Or was it an appointment that you missed?" Oh look.... Petulant childish replies have replaced reasoned arguments and discussion. Who's shocked?! | |||
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"The suggestion is a sticker placed by admin that you have had a test. Nothing else is proved, but as an added filter it will prevent a lot of dreamers and timewasters from gaining access to the proper players." So if its just a sticker, and no verification is needed, how does this stop people getting access to "proper players" You are back tracking now, before you were saying that it needed to be verified, and now its just a sticker, how can people get the point if you keep changing what the point is? | |||
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"The suggestion is a sticker placed by admin that you have had a test. Nothing else is proved, but as an added filter it will prevent a lot of dreamers and timewasters from gaining access to the proper players." So then the site become liable if they award the sticker and that person then passes on an STI. Not going to work. | |||
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"Once again the point is being missed. It's about demonstrating that you are taking some responsibility. " Some people only meet the verified. Some only meet in clubs. Some will bareback gang bang. Some will go dogging every night. Some choose not to join a swinging site. My point is we all take responsibility for our own actions. Trying to dictate from some pseudo moral high ground how other fellow deviants conduct their lives to offer you a false sense of security is ridiculous! If Fab made anything compulsory I'd simply leave, no biggie. I treat all meets with caution and protect myself accordingly. If I were that paranoid I'd just smack the pony! | |||
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"The suggestion is a sticker placed by admin that you have had a test. Nothing else is proved, but as an added filter it will prevent a lot of dreamers and timewasters from gaining access to the proper players." And how long before the extra work required by admin for facilitating this sticker and verifying peoples claims mean we are charged more than an optional Fiver? I tested regularly when actively meeting, I play safe, but I will not be beholden to providing medical evidence like its shameful to want to fuck someone. I also will not stay if I have to pay more than I currently do and I believe that more genuine people will feel the same. All you'd be left with are the desperate few faking their stickers to let them stick it on you. More to the point i think it will make all those entitled single men feel even more hard done by because they have worked jumped through the hoops but still not getting their dicks wet. | |||
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"The suggestion is a sticker placed by admin that you have had a test. Nothing else is proved, but as an added filter it will prevent a lot of dreamers and timewasters from gaining access to the proper players." it will not and if you really think so then you are being naive.. | |||
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"The suggestion is a sticker placed by admin that you have had a test. Nothing else is proved, but as an added filter it will prevent a lot of dreamers and timewasters from gaining access to the proper players. So then the site become liable if they award the sticker and that person then passes on an STI. Not going to work. " Good point! | |||
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"The suggestion is a sticker placed by admin that you have had a test. Nothing else is proved, but as an added filter it will prevent a lot of dreamers and timewasters from gaining access to the proper players." Lol "proper players". Ridiculous idea from a rediculous person! | |||
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"It's an anonymous test and you get a text reply. If you can upload a pic of your cock you can upload a copy of your text results. " Do you have any idea how many people on here upload pictures of cocks that are not their own!? Your plan really would be fairly meaningless. Reminds though, I'm due for testing.... | |||
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"I think the point is in danger of being lost. In the same way that admin check photo verification They can also check an NHS screenshot. This would then be indicated on the profile with a small sticker - same way as other stickers. It could then be used to filter members who do test. It's in no way a failsafe and it does replace conversation as other members are suggesting. Further comments are welcome" my clinic only messages me if there is a problem. Not if im clear | |||
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"The original point still stands. Upload a screenshot of your test results Admin can then accept it This would verify that you had a test (nothing more) A sticker/badge/label would be added to your profile page Others would then see that you had it done No additional work would be needed by admin, just a change of policy and alteration of computer program This would be purely voluntary and should be available to silver and gold members only in recognition of the fact that admin is not free." I love bdsm too mate, but flogging this dead horse ain't fun for anyone | |||
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"The evidence is the text received from the NHS. The suggestion is that there is a place to upload it too. Two things would be proved A At the date of the test you are clean B that you take tests Personal responsibility should not be shirked" Not everyone uses the NHS. We will be having the Terence Higgins Trust at some of our parties. They also send text messages, but not in the same format as NHS. Also their HIV tests are the instants ones, so no text record. | |||
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"The evidence is the text received from the NHS. The suggestion is that there is a place to upload it too. Two things would be proved A At the date of the test you are clean B that you take tests Personal responsibility should not be shirked" Sorry NO I have to correct you there. A At the date of test you are clean... This is not true, it shows no VD was detected at that time, as I previously pointed out to you it takes time to develop Do not presume that members are shirking their personal responsibility because they are not wearing your VD free badge. I don't think swinging is for you, try going to Bingo instead OP. | |||
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" This would be purely voluntary and should be available to silver and gold members only in recognition of the fact that admin is not free." aha, let them eat cake and scratch their pox ridden crotches, those dreaming timewasters.. clear now.. | |||
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"The original point still stands. Upload a screenshot of your test results Admin can then accept it This would verify that you had a test (nothing more) A sticker/badge/label would be added to your profile page Others would then see that you had it done No additional work would be needed by admin, just a change of policy and alteration of computer program This would be purely voluntary and should be available to silver and gold members only in recognition of the fact that admin is not free." Should we also show a text from the vet to show we are clear of fleas? XXX | |||
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"No additional work would be needed by admin, just a change of policy and alteration of computer program This would be purely voluntary and should be available to silver and gold members only in recognition of the fact that admin is not free." Actually online now are 18,822 people, average out testing at 4 times a year = 75,288 texts to read and switches to flick, and that's just for those logged in now. Not a job I would want... how about you OP? fancy doing this as a volenteer... The sentiment was good, but the plan unworkable and pointless! let it go. | |||
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" This would be purely voluntary and should be available to silver and gold members only in recognition of the fact that admin is not free. aha, let them eat cake and scratch their pox ridden crotches, those dreaming timewasters.. clear now.." I just spat my coffee and false teeth out out reading that! Lol xxx | |||
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"The original point still stands. Upload a screenshot of your test results Admin can then accept it This would verify that you had a test (nothing more) A sticker/badge/label would be added to your profile page Others would then see that you had it done No additional work would be needed by admin, just a change of policy and alteration of computer program This would be purely voluntary and should be available to silver and gold members only in recognition of the fact that admin is not free." Of course extra work would be needed. Mods approve our uploads... If we have to upload recent pics and they grant us our sticker that's extra work | |||
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" This would be purely voluntary and should be available to silver and gold members only in recognition of the fact that admin is not free. aha, let them eat cake and scratch their pox ridden crotches, those dreaming timewasters.. clear now.. I just spat my coffee and false teeth out out reading that! Lol xxx" am now wondering whether to upload a picture of one's Waitrose store card.. | |||
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" This would be purely voluntary and should be available to silver and gold members only in recognition of the fact that admin is not free. aha, let them eat cake and scratch their pox ridden crotches, those dreaming timewasters.. clear now.. I just spat my coffee and false teeth out out reading that! Lol xxx am now wondering whether to upload a picture of one's Waitrose store card.. " | |||
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"Perhaps you have missed the point. Or was it an appointment that you missed?" Once again this has turned into a Donald Trump debate. Just because others don't agree with you OK doesn't give you the right to verbally bitch slap then, shame on you | |||
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" This would be purely voluntary and should be available to silver and gold members only in recognition of the fact that admin is not free. aha, let them eat cake and scratch their pox ridden crotches, those dreaming timewasters.. clear now.." | |||
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"The evidence is the text received from the NHS. The suggestion is that there is a place to upload it too. Two things would be proved A At the date of the test you are clean B that you take tests Personal responsibility should not be shirked" We have to show our Passports and the the number is taken down at the time of the test each month and we show it again when picking up written proof in the form of a letter / cert. Our letters cost us each £30 a month, this is the only sure way but it is in practical for most so your idea wouldn't work, text messages are two a penny so most people wouldn't trust this method. | |||
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"I put my test dates on my profile. That is taking responsibility for myself and others. Do you?" Anyone can put up any dates they wish....it's no proof whatsoever! | |||
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"There are alot of responses to this post that have digressed from the original question. OP asked the site administrators if an option can be added to give certain individuals the opportunity to show they "are clean" by providing an easy to use link that may be used in filter results. The thread was not aimed at anyone in particular only as a site enhancement." But the OPs responses became aggressive when people pointed out flaws in the idea | |||
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"Could Admin add an extra sticker/badge showing that a member has been NHS tested and clean. This could be done the same way as photo verification and it would be a very good way of sifting out the dreamers and timewasters. It would also give confidence that members take proper precautions. Comments welcome. Admin please read and consider" Fuck that. I still want my blue Peter badge | |||
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"Thanks. At least you understood the original question. Can anyone else about to respond please go to the first post and comment on that please. Any additional suggestions that could enhance everyone's experience should also be brought to the table." Really? 84 messages, most of which are telling you that the idea is ridiculous isn't enough? Because you are not on 'receive' and have a different agenda, here's my input: it's a rediculous idea that the majority of people here will see as an utter waste of space. | |||
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"Hmmmm different NHS regions must do things differently as i do get texts confirming the all clear. I prefer this than not getting a text. Op why not upload ur text msg and start a trend " Good idea in theory, but Fab (usually) doesn't allow photos without a person in them | |||
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"Could Admin add an extra sticker/badge showing that a member has been NHS tested and clean. This could be done the same way as photo verification and it would be a very good way of sifting out the dreamers and timewasters. It would also give confidence that members take proper precautions. Comments welcome. Admin please read and consider" Ok, directly replying to this. 1) probably but no doubt at a cost, so only if it's considered in demand and worthwhile 2)no it wouldn't, we've already heard it's easy to fake, or borrow, and there are plenty who don't see the value of photo verifications for the same reason 3) I agree people who are active should be getting tested but that is only one precaution and is far from foolproof, I think you are potentially giving some people a false sense of security if it was to be employed. Not everyone is savvy about what a negative test exactly means. Plus different places test for different things, how much detail will one badge provide? | |||
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"Could Admin add an extra sticker/badge showing that a member has been NHS tested and clean. This could be done the same way as photo verification and it would be a very good way of sifting out the dreamers and timewasters. It would also give confidence that members take proper precautions. Comments welcome. Admin please read and consider" OK. Sticking to your original question. They probably won't do this because it will create too much additional work and is open to abuse. They can't stop fake pics being uploaded, how will they stop fake proof of tests being uploaded? It won't stop dreamers or time wasters either because of they can fake profiles they can fake proof of testing so you are still no safer than before. It would give me no more confidence than before to be honest and I would atoll any my own methods of deciding who I want to play with and how. | |||
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"I am suggesting a purely voluntary additional badge that can act as a filter. I totally agree with point No 3 And that's the whole point of opening the discussion in the first place. To take on board other people's views. " Which won't be implemented. | |||
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"I put my test dates on my profile. That is taking responsibility for myself and others. Do you?" That's great, but here's the flaw: the fact that there is such a big gap from April to December makes me wonder if your test in the summer wasn't 100% clear... Mr ddc | |||
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"Once again the point is being missed. It's about demonstrating that you are taking some responsibility. " Why should anyone have to prove to you or anyone else for that matter???. If people choose not to be tested on their head be it, As an adult it's your choice being on here your old enough to know the risk of having sex and being tested. Who are you to judge because they don't want it plastered all over their profile some people on here like to keep real life separate. If you asked me to prove I get tested I would tell you to do one. Mind after reading your profile the arrogance of it I would do one anyway lol. | |||
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"This could be done the same way as photo verification and it would be a very good way of sifting out the dreamers and timewasters." If you actually believe this, then you have very little idea of the process of photo verification and it's real purpose. Photo verification is used by Admin to check that subsequent pic uploads from a member are in fact the same person or couple. Even then pics will only be checked against a veri pic if another member has made a complaint. If your idea was implemented, it would mean that Admin would have to check every profile every time a member posted up a new test date. Totally impractical and completely unworkable. Also as has been pointed out again and again in this thread, it would be completely meaningless even if it were implemented. | |||
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"The original point still stands. Upload a screenshot of your test results Admin can then accept it This would verify that you had a test (nothing more) A sticker/badge/label would be added to your profile page Others would then see that you had it done No additional work would be needed by admin, just a change of policy and alteration of computer program This would be purely voluntary and should be available to silver and gold members only in recognition of the fact that admin is not free." I can easily text myself an *identical* text to the NHS results. Plus many clinics don't send you anything at all if everything is fine. | |||
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"Could Admin add an extra sticker/badge showing that a member has been NHS tested and clean. This could be done the same way as photo verification and it would be a very good way of sifting out the dreamers and timewasters. It would also give confidence that members take proper precautions. Comments welcome. Admin please read and consider" 1. No as that badge would be defunct the second it's made, would open fab up to legal risks, would be to easy to fake, would have no meaning. 2. Dreamers and timewasters also get photo verified, the difference is at least photo verified has some checks, checking a photo of a text is impossible. 3. It would give me no confidence at all. All the way through you have kept pumping out the line about personal responsibility. I think irony is a dying art form. Getting verification from a 3Rd party is exactly the opposite of personal responsibility. It's the very demonstration of passing responsibility to another body, in this case fab admin. It's unworkable from an administration point of view. It's unreliable I do worry that it shows a lack of knowledge about how disease works. I think your post is well intentioned but there is nothing workable in it. A bit like saying I think everyone should get 1 million pounds for Christmas. A suggestion with good intentions but not workable on any level. | |||
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"Could Admin add an extra sticker/badge showing that a member has been NHS tested and clean. This could be done the same way as photo verification and it would be a very good way of sifting out the dreamers and timewasters. It would also give confidence that members take proper precautions. Comments welcome. Admin please read and consider Ok, directly replying to this. 1) probably but no doubt at a cost, so only if it's considered in demand and worthwhile 2)no it wouldn't, we've already heard it's easy to fake, or borrow, and there are plenty who don't see the value of photo verifications for the same reason 3) I agree people who are active should be getting tested but that is only one precaution and is far from foolproof, I think you are potentially giving some people a false sense of security if it was to be employed. Not everyone is savvy about what a negative test exactly means. Plus different places test for different things, how much detail will one badge provide? " Op you're brave man fighting against these bullies on the forums.... you're only trying to have a serious discussion, and at the same time enhance this site. I will apologize for their rudeness , now I think you might be on to something here... but it might now work due to legal issues. What might be better options..... ..1) Clubs wouldn't let anyone into their establishment without a recent all clear text on a phone/tablet or letter from a clinic with a all clear. 2) Party host handing out a party bag to all guess with dental dams , detol , condoms , listerine , and female condoms before entering a party. 3) Make it mandatory for everyone that has bareback pics on their profile to only be able to meet people with bareback pics in their profiles also. | |||
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"Could Admin add an extra sticker/badge showing that a member has been NHS tested and clean. This could be done the same way as photo verification and it would be a very good way of sifting out the dreamers and timewasters. It would also give confidence that members take proper precautions. Comments welcome. Admin please read and consider Ok, directly replying to this. 1) probably but no doubt at a cost, so only if it's considered in demand and worthwhile 2)no it wouldn't, we've already heard it's easy to fake, or borrow, and there are plenty who don't see the value of photo verifications for the same reason 3) I agree people who are active should be getting tested but that is only one precaution and is far from foolproof, I think you are potentially giving some people a false sense of security if it was to be employed. Not everyone is savvy about what a negative test exactly means. Plus different places test for different things, how much detail will one badge provide? Op you're brave man fighting against these bullies on the forums.... you're only trying to have a serious discussion, and at the same time enhance this site. I will apologize for their rudeness , now I think you might be on to something here... but it might now work due to legal issues. What might be better options..... ..1) Clubs wouldn't let anyone into their establishment without a recent all clear text on a phone/tablet or letter from a clinic with a all clear. 2) Party host handing out a party bag to all guess with dental dams , detol , condoms , listerine , and female condoms before entering a party. 3) Make it mandatory for everyone that has bareback pics on their profile to only be able to meet people with bareback pics in their profiles also. " It's not bullying to disagree. There is a difference between good intentions and workable suggestions. For example you point 3, how will fab stop anyone meeting anyone? Barring illegal imprisonment. | |||
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"The suggestion is that the text can be uploaded to admin. No one ever suggested a certificate. That text can then be accepted that you had a test. Nothing more. It can then be used as a filter. " What if you dont get an all clear text? | |||
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"The suggestion is that the text can be uploaded to admin. No one ever suggested a certificate. That text can then be accepted that you had a test. Nothing more. It can then be used as a filter. " Ok, it have never done this before but IT DOESNT MEAND DIDDLY SQUAT! ITS USELESS. Nearly everyone here has told you over and over the reasons why it won't work and why actually, it's really quite dangerous for those people, like ourself, that don't understand the limitations of STI testing. | |||
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"The suggestion is that the text can be uploaded to admin. No one ever suggested a certificate. That text can then be accepted that you had a test. Nothing more. It can then be used as a filter. " Why is a text proof of anything. I'm suspicious that this is now a fishing expedition. For starters there is a forum for site suggestions. Secondly you just keep posting the same point, ignoring all the practical holes. Thirdly your profile text says you have passed the number of views you were hoping to get today. It's a good way of drawing attention to your profile beyond the standard look at me threads so Congratulations on achieving your primary objective. | |||
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"If you don't know the answer to that question we're all fucked lol" Was that directed at me? | |||
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"If you don't know the answer to that question we're all fucked lol" If you mean the post above, our local nhs policy used to be no text = all clear. They do text an all clear message now, but they all operate differently. It was a fair enough idea to throw in, but the many replies show its impracticality. | |||
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" Thirdly your profile text says you have passed the number of views you were hoping to get today. It's a good way of drawing attention to your profile beyond the standard look at me threads so Congratulations on achieving your primary objective. " That's what I thought when he was counting the views earlier on his status, but I didn't mention it 'cos I thought: a) fair play, quite an audacious plan, deserves a result and b) if I say owt it'll only double his views | |||
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"" Well I'm glad you are not actually as obtuse as you first appeared. I seriously worried for intelligence until spotting that on your profile. | |||
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"Could Admin add an extra sticker/badge showing that a member has been NHS tested and clean. This could be done the same way as photo verification and it would be a very good way of sifting out the dreamers and timewasters. It would also give confidence that members take proper precautions. Comments welcome. Admin please read and consider" Quite easy to fake a text, to prove a negative test. My clinic does not message just no news is good news. I get tested every 6 months. My meets are few and far between. I'm happy I'm 'clean' and I play safe. Taking responsibility for my own health. I agree there are dreamers and time wasters I have encountered many. Which is why I will now only meet in clubs as 'proper members' have no issues meeting in a club. If a man I'm playing with does not wear protection then it's goodbye from me... | |||
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"Could Admin add an extra sticker/badge showing that a member has been NHS tested and clean. This could be done the same way as photo verification and it would be a very good way of sifting out the dreamers and timewasters. It would also give confidence that members take proper precautions. Comments welcome. Admin please read and consider Quite easy to fake a text, to prove a negative test. My clinic does not message just no news is good news. I get tested every 6 months. My meets are few and far between. I'm happy I'm 'clean' and I play safe. Taking responsibility for my own health. I agree there are dreamers and time wasters I have encountered many. Which is why I will now only meet in clubs as 'proper members' have no issues meeting in a club. If a man I'm playing with does not wear protection then it's goodbye from me..." And it's goodbye from him.... Swinging two Ronnies style. | |||
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"I think the point is in danger of being lost. In the same way that admin check photo verification They can also check an NHS screenshot. This would then be indicated on the profile with a small sticker - same way as other stickers. It could then be used to filter members who do test. It's in no way a failsafe and it does replace conversation as other members are suggesting. Further comments are welcome" Why don't you just take responsibility for your own sexual health just like the rest of us? Use a condom and get regular checks. | |||
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"Just as the CRB check proves nothing except a possible offender has not yet been caught displaying an STI status only proves you were clear on the date of the test. It's fine to be tested regularly but pointless to insist on seeing somones test results. " Except demanding a CRB is hugely useful to sift out those who have been caught previously | |||
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"Just as the CRB check proves nothing except a possible offender has not yet been caught displaying an STI status only proves you were clear on the date of the test. It's fine to be tested regularly but pointless to insist on seeing somones test results. " Nail and head... and neither are mandatory so you should also take responsibility when leaving your children with other people and check whether CRB checks have at least been done. | |||
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"I have a young apprentice who said the life of a single guy on fabs is difficult. And it is. So I am laying on a series of demonstrations for him. This was one. To be fair I think there is some merit to the original post. But nothing winds up the fabbers more than touching a raw nerve. " Noted | |||
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"I have a young apprentice who said the life of a single guy on fabs is difficult. And it is. So I am laying on a series of demonstrations for him. This was one. To be fair I think there is some merit to the original post. But nothing winds up the fabbers more than touching a raw nerve. " How good of you to be a teacher for an apprentice. Were the replies anti-single guy? But what was the 'raw nerve' ? | |||
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"The suggestion is that the text can be uploaded to admin. No one ever suggested a certificate. That text can then be accepted that you had a test. Nothing more. It can then be used as a filter. " I would like to know what your solution would be for those whose testing centre don't send texts. Our centre in the 12 years we've used it never provide any all clear message. The centre say if after 2 weeks you've heard nothing then a sum all clear, if you want confirmation you can ring to check. Also in the past we've been asked what tests we would like. I am needle phobic so there has been times when swabs only have been taken. If (which we don't) we had an all clear, that would not be the same as an all clear on a full test. So even if you ignore the fact they are easy to fake and there's no way to cross reference the text to a user, please could you consider how your idea would be viable for people in my region? | |||
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"I have a young apprentice who said the life of a single guy on fabs is difficult. And it is. So I am laying on a series of demonstrations for him. This was one. To be fair I think there is some merit to the original post. But nothing winds up the fabbers more than touching a raw nerve. " lol if you say so | |||
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"The suggestion is a sticker placed by admin that you have had a test. Nothing else is proved, but as an added filter it will prevent a lot of dreamers and timewasters from gaining access to the proper players." There are dreamers and timewasters who get tested too..... | |||
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"Not worth the paper it's written on. Just practice safe sex and hope for the best because even that's not 100% safe " I don't agree with that. It is hugely useful. Just posting it in for an sti veri is flawed. | |||
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"I have a young apprentice who said the life of a single guy on fabs is difficult. And it is. So I am laying on a series of demonstrations for him. This was one. To be fair I think there is some merit to the original post. But nothing winds up the fabbers more than touching a raw nerve. " I'm single and enjoying myself. But maybe that's because I don't expect sex on tap. I don't think there's a raw nerve here, man - I think you're retreading ground that the majority of active members on here are pretty secure about. | |||
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"Not worth the paper it's written on. Just practice safe sex and hope for the best because even that's not 100% safe I don't agree with that. It is hugely useful. Just posting it in for an sti veri is flawed." So you get the clear. Walk out and 5mins later bb with someone. Does the test still mean you're clean | |||
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"There are alot of responses to this post that have digressed from the original question. OP asked the site administrators if an option can be added to give certain individuals the opportunity to show they "are clean" by providing an easy to use link that may be used in filter results. The thread was not aimed at anyone in particular only as a site enhancement. But the OPs responses became aggressive when people pointed out flaws in the idea " Yep xx | |||
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"I have a young apprentice who said the life of a single guy on fabs is difficult. And it is. So I am laying on a series of demonstrations for him. This was one. To be fair I think there is some merit to the original post. But nothing winds up the fabbers more than touching a raw nerve. " It's not a raw nerve, it's just because your idea is ridiculous and non workable. | |||
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"Not worth the paper it's written on. Just practice safe sex and hope for the best because even that's not 100% safe I don't agree with that. It is hugely useful. Just posting it in for an sti veri is flawed. So you get the clear. Walk out and 5mins later bb with someone. Does the test still mean you're clean " That can happen. But it doesn't mean the test is useless, which is what I was commenting on. It has some limitations. We dont bareback, and sti as belt and braces. You can pick up an sti by oral, condom snap, close genital contact etc. It is better to know periodically you are ok at that moment in time. | |||
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"Not worth the paper it's written on. Just practice safe sex and hope for the best because even that's not 100% safe I don't agree with that. It is hugely useful. Just posting it in for an sti veri is flawed. So you get the clear. Walk out and 5mins later bb with someone. Does the test still mean you're clean That can happen. But it doesn't mean the test is useless, which is what I was commenting on. It has some limitations. We dont bareback, and sti as belt and braces. You can pick up an sti by oral, condom snap, close genital contact etc. It is better to know periodically you are ok at that moment in time." Yes so as long as you take steps to practice safe sex you can't really do Anymore | |||
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"OP, maybe you could ask the people who you choose to meet, to text you there results, before you agree to meet them." *their* | |||
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"I'd love to know what you were trying to demonstrate. If it was that it is possible to get x number of views I'm sure you've done a fine job. What you're going to find harder to measure is how many people have you down as someone to avoid now. And I don't think it's a raw nerve, it was a (rather one sided) debate among grown ups where some good points were made. " | |||
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"OP, maybe you could ask the people who you choose to meet, to text you there results, before you agree to meet them." Done that once as a novice. Told to fuck off and blocked Now I just make sure I play safe and limit the risk | |||
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"OP, maybe you could ask the people who you choose to meet, to text you there results, before you agree to meet them. Done that once as a novice. Told to fuck off and blocked Now I just make sure I play safe and limit the risk " Was suggesting it to the op, as he wants us all to display our results, so maybe he could just ask the people he wants to play with. | |||
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"It's an anonymous test and you get a text reply. If you can upload a pic of your cock you can upload a copy of your text results. For any reading this who don't know how it works, perhaps more energy could be spent doing proper meaningful research." I know the texts you are talking about but you can still fake them and having a text proves FA if the person had unprotected sex since the test! | |||
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"OP, maybe you could ask the people who you choose to meet, to text you there results, before you agree to meet them. Done that once as a novice. Told to fuck off and blocked Now I just make sure I play safe and limit the risk Was suggesting it to the op, as he wants us all to display our results, so maybe he could just ask the people he wants to play with. " I wish him luck | |||
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"It's an anonymous test and you get a text reply. If you can upload a pic of your cock you can upload a copy of your text results. For any reading this who don't know how it works, perhaps more energy could be spent doing proper meaningful research. I know the texts you are talking about but you can still fake them and having a text proves FA if the person had unprotected sex since the test! " | |||
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"It wouldnt bother me lol." What getting a sti | |||
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"Sorry OP, you've said nothing to convince me that it's anything other than a pointless idea. " I think the idea was to get profile views. He confirms this in his status and a reply in here. | |||
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"It wouldnt bother me lol. What getting a sti " No, but you got a bigger chance to be in a traffic accident lol. | |||
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"It wouldnt bother me lol. What getting a sti No, but you got a bigger chance to be in a traffic accident lol." | |||
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"Could Admin add an extra sticker/badge showing that a member has been NHS tested and clean. This could be done the same way as photo verification and it would be a very good way of sifting out the dreamers and timewasters. It would also give confidence that members take proper precautions. Comments welcome. Admin please read and consider And how would that prove people are not dreamers and time wasters? Take responsibility for your own sexual health and not come up with ways to vilify others." ^^^this | |||
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"We can only be responsible for our own sexual health. STI test results can be faked or they may have picked something up since the last time they were tested, so it wouldn't be practical to implement this option on profiles. It may lull some into a false sense of security and take risks they may not ordinarily take. Just see everyone as a potential barebacker and act accordingly. That's the only thing that's viable in my opinion. Not sure fire, but the the only true safe sex is no sex . " Well said! | |||
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"It wouldnt bother me lol. What getting a sti No, but you got a bigger chance to be in a traffic accident lol." Wrong. 2015 road traffic casualties 186,000. 2015 sti cases 450,000. Same mentality says rock climb without a rope as there were only a dozen climbing deaths | |||
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"I put my test dates on my profile. That is taking responsibility for myself and others. Do you?" Pointless. | |||
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"Sorry OP, you've said nothing to convince me that it's anything other than a pointless idea. I think the idea was to get profile views. He confirms this in his status and a reply in here." I never got that far. Now I have though...... Not much to look at | |||
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"I notice OP that your pictures are bareback. What was that you said about personal responsibility not being shirked? " | |||
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"I notice OP that your pictures are bareback. What was that you said about personal responsibility not being shirked? " | |||
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" It's not a failsafe, I'm not sure it could be abused as anyone putting that much effort into abusing it is clearly to be avoided anyway. The purpose of the suggestion is to add an additional filter to prevent the idiots from ruining it for decent people. I cannot understand anyone seeing this as a negative suggestion and welcome any other ideas on the subject." There is NO failsafe if you want to have sex with strangers .... the only 100% safe way is not to have sex with anyone. It astounds me that people set so much store by others being tested, test results are only valid or relevant on the day the tests are done and only for those diseases which can be detected immediately. How does that protect future sexual partners or oneself? We each have to take responsibility for our own sexual health and the best we can do is make judgements based on what we deem appropriate safety measures. | |||
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"I see the old 'social experiment' backpedal is alive and well. *nostalgia*" Backtracking faster than a politician | |||
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"Sorry OP, you've said nothing to convince me that it's anything other than a pointless idea. I think the idea was to get profile views. He confirms this in his status and a reply in here." It only works for people who have their settings to "show who ive looked at" as we don't have it set to "show" no one knows if we have looked at them | |||
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"I would be *very* concerned with the sense of false security that it would give to some less educated members here too. There is a false belief that being tested every three months makes you somehow bulletproof when it comes to STIs, which is clearly not the case. Indeed the OP seems to believe this himself from his fanatical representation of the NHS 'all clear' message. I would be concerned with any badge, sticker, or other method that further increases this belief in the community and I think it could actually work in the opposite way to what the OP said - encouraging people to take risks where they wouldn't have done before." Like the verification system. Some people use it purely as the deciding factor of who to meet without using their own due diligence. You can imagine someone who relies on total strangers to decide whether to meet another total stranger coming a cropper can't you. | |||
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