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Definition of BBW & SSBBW

By *BW Snowbunny OP Woman over a year ago

Somewhere over the Rainbow

I'm an SSBBW - I am a very large lady

Having read many posts on the forum about BBW and the ladies that reply I'm curious as to how women define themselves as BBW.

Many I've seen are not big ladies at all. They may have big boobs but otherwise are a 'normal' size as society perceives. One lady classing herself as SSBBW yet appears to be around a size 18/20 in her pictures. When this happens it becomes very misleading

So........

Ladies - what do you think makes your body be classed as either BBW or SSBBW?

Guys say 'the bigger the better' but when they actually see a proper BBW or SSBBW they are horrified - what do guys perceive as BBW & SSBBW?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm an SSBBW - I am a very large lady

Having read many posts on the forum about BBW and the ladies that reply I'm curious as to how women define themselves as BBW.

So........

Ladies - what do you think makes your body be classed as either BBW or SSBBW?

Guys say 'the bigger the better' but when they actually see a proper BBW or SSBBW they are horrified - what do guys perceive as BBW & SSBBW?"

This is going to be fun

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Me personally class myself as a BBW lady and Am a size 20/22. And oh girl men always say it sexy and then shit cause they can't handle us lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm an SSBBW - I am a very large lady

Having read many posts on the forum about BBW and the ladies that reply I'm curious as to how women define themselves as BBW.

So........

Ladies - what do you think makes your body be classed as either BBW or SSBBW?

Guys say 'the bigger the better' but when they actually see a proper BBW or SSBBW they are horrified - what do guys perceive as BBW & SSBBW?"

You're brave!!

I've got proper rolls and a huge arse/thighs. That just makes me wobbly or if you want to use the f word, that.

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By *BW Snowbunny OP Woman over a year ago

Somewhere over the Rainbow

"You're brave!!

I've got proper rolls and a huge arse/thighs. That just makes me wobbly or if you want to use the f word, that. "

Lol. Brave? Is that because I've broached the subject? I've got a real bugbear though. It infuriates me when a women who is at most a size 14 and clearly has no real excess body fat and skin classes herself as BBW Guys then start to think that a size 12/14 is fat which isn't

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You're brave!!

I've got proper rolls and a huge arse/thighs. That just makes me wobbly or if you want to use the f word, that.

Brave because I've seen lots of bbw threads etc on here and I can tell you what people will post, it won't end well!!

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By *asokittyWoman over a year ago

Nr Worksop

People are allowed to class themselves as they see fit. Not for them to manage others expectations.

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By *lsd199Man over a year ago

London

I think, bbw should be considered a BEAUTIFUL woman above the average weight.

And first of all she should be beautiful and NOT obese, because nowadays every fatty calls herself a bbw

Also, UK's average weight for women is way above than in the rest of European countries, so my definition may sound strange

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By *asokittyWoman over a year ago

Nr Worksop

"I think, bbw should be considered a BEAUTIFUL woman above the average weight.

And first of all she should be beautiful and NOT obese, because nowadays every fatty calls herself a bbw

Also, UK's average weight for women is way above than in the rest of European countries, so my definition may sound strange

Again its not what anyone else thinks. Esp people who clearly have no baring on their life.

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By *lsd199Man over a year ago

London

wrong. words have a meaning in our language and if you use a definition, you should use it correctly.

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By *asokittyWoman over a year ago

Nr Worksop

"wrong. words have a meaning in our language and if you use a definition, you should use it correctly. "

Yes. But who are you to say who is and who is not beautiful. I imagine you think you're hot. Im sure people will hasten to agree and others will hasten to disagree. It's subjective. Not rocket science.

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By *BW Snowbunny OP Woman over a year ago

Somewhere over the Rainbow

"wrong. words have a meaning in our language and if you use a definition, you should use it correctly.

Spot on. Someone could be stunning to one person but ugly as sin to another. Lots of guys like flesh on a woman.

Definition of words is rather vague nowadays as there are so many terms and phrases used. BBW is used to primarily define a larger lady. If that means fat and obese then so be it. Yes I'm obese but have plenty of admirers. Do I want to be obese - no I don't but that's a whole different ball game to this topic.

What I asked is what do you picture when you see the term BIG BEAUTIFUL WOMAN/WOMEN.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

id say 16 to 24 bbw

26 upwards ssbbw

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"wrong. words have a meaning in our language and if you use a definition, you should use it correctly.

that's the point of the thread asking what people think. so you are the only person that can decide what it means. good to know! !!

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By *asokittyWoman over a year ago

Nr Worksop

"wrong. words have a meaning in our language and if you use a definition, you should use it correctly.

that's the point of the thread asking what people think. so you are the only person that can decide what it means. good to know! !! "

Personally yes I believe that, unless you're happy having your worth defined by someone else.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"wrong. words have a meaning in our language and if you use a definition, you should use it correctly.

that's the point of the thread asking what people think. so you are the only person that can decide what it means. good to know! !!

Personally yes I believe that, unless you're happy having your worth defined by someone else. "

have you read the op? she asked what people think. he said what he thinks and he got jumped on ffs

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By *eliWoman over a year ago

I don't class myself as a BBW firstly because it's far removed from the truth. But I do think I'm an BAW because I'm fat. My BMI puts me as overweight/obese so I go with that.

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By *asokittyWoman over a year ago

Nr Worksop

"wrong. words have a meaning in our language and if you use a definition, you should use it correctly.

that's the point of the thread asking what people think. so you are the only person that can decide what it means. good to know! !!

Personally yes I believe that, unless you're happy having your worth defined by someone else.

have you read the op? she asked what people think. he said what he thinks and he got jumped on ffs

She asked ladies...... but whatever.

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By *asokittyWoman over a year ago

Nr Worksop

"wrong. words have a meaning in our language and if you use a definition, you should use it correctly.

Spot on. Someone could be stunning to one person but ugly as sin to another. Lots of guys like flesh on a woman.

What I asked is what do you picture when you see the term BIG BEAUTIFUL WOMAN/WOMEN. "

For me anything over a size 26 may fall more into the ssbbw x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"wrong. words have a meaning in our language and if you use a definition, you should use it correctly.

that's the point of the thread asking what people think. so you are the only person that can decide what it means. good to know! !!

Personally yes I believe that, unless you're happy having your worth defined by someone else.

have you read the op? she asked what people think. he said what he thinks and he got jumped on ffs

She asked ladies...... but whatever. "

read the last line in the op. jeeeezus

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By *asokittyWoman over a year ago

Nr Worksop

"wrong. words have a meaning in our language and if you use a definition, you should use it correctly.

that's the point of the thread asking what people think. so you are the only person that can decide what it means. good to know! !!

Personally yes I believe that, unless you're happy having your worth defined by someone else.

have you read the op? she asked what people think. he said what he thinks and he got jumped on ffs

She asked ladies...... but whatever.

read the last line in the op. jeeeezus"

Still doesn't ask fellas... anyway its been fun..and now I know what a female white Knight looks like

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm not bbw I'm just fat....size 18/20

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not bbw I'm just fat....size 18/20"

You look fab...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This is one of those debates that can go on and on, and on because it's so subjective. I mean, OP, I see where you're coming from but women (and men) can _iew themselves so differently to what we see, it's difficult to label anything.

Personally, I dislike the whole BBW thing. I'm fat, end of.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's subjective. I don't like either term as it defines people by a body type.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You're brave!!

I've got proper rolls and a huge arse/thighs. That just makes me wobbly or if you want to use the f word, that.

Even worse, those who certainly don't qualify for the "beautiful" part of the category. Just because you're in the larger spectrum, doesn't make you pretty

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You're brave!!

I've got proper rolls and a huge arse/thighs. That just makes me wobbly or if you want to use the f word, that.

Even worse, those who certainly don't qualify for the "beautiful" part of the category. Just because you're in the larger spectrum, doesn't make you pretty "

good job I walk around with a paper bag over my head

What you see as pretty someone else will see as ugly and vice versa. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder or so they say.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"This is one of those debates that can go on and on, and on because it's so subjective. I mean, OP, I see where you're coming from but women (and men) can _iew themselves so differently to what we see, it's difficult to label anything.

Personally, I dislike the whole BBW thing. I'm fat, end of.

Fat and B.E.A.utiful.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You're brave!!

I've got proper rolls and a huge arse/thighs. That just makes me wobbly or if you want to use the f word, that.

Even worse, those who certainly don't qualify for the "beautiful" part of the category. Just because you're in the larger spectrum, doesn't make you pretty "

Conversely just because a women is large does not mean she is not pretty either.

I think the problem of opposing the term bbw and talk about the subjectiveness of _iews are forgetting one true and hard fact. Yes all women have their bodies picked over publicly but with a larger woman idiots of both sexes feel they have the right to comment adversely on body shape and draw adverse conclusions.

Therefore I see the terms bbw and ssbbw more as affirmations than descriptions. It is a reclamation of attractiveness in the face of unwarranted negativity from the body fascists.

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By *urvymamaWoman over a year ago

Doncaster

Doesn't really matter what other people think, it's only matters how you defines yourself. If your a big woman that feels beautiful then call yourself a BBW (or whatever) should you wish to.

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By *roticGoddessXXWoman over a year ago

Richmond

I debate about what to call myself.

I curve in and out where I'm supposed to: I'm curvy.

I'm far from "average size": I'm BBW.

I've called myself BBW only to hear from men I've met that I'm really not big.

I usually now say--I'm far from medium or even large, though I'm not huge. I'm a solid size Extra Large (except in those bloody corsets...they were made for stick insects. I am NOT XXXL, though that's what the labels in mine say).

I'm just me, take it or leave it.

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By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

Stick insects

Every time

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By *irkby coupleCouple over a year ago

Kirkby

Who cares, women can class their selves as what ever they like.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So women who aren't fat enough in another's eyes shouldn't call themselves a BBW?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So women who aren't fat enough in another's eyes shouldn't call themselves a BBW? "

well yeah!! skinny women have the world at their feet. no matter what bollocks people spout, most people prefer slimmer

if the skinny people nick the bbw labels wtf have us fatties got left???!!

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By *ust PeachyWoman over a year ago

Prestonish

"id say 16 to 24 bbw

26 upwards ssbbw"

Yeah I'd agree with that - though not with a tall size 16 maybe!

Now - are you sharing those sweets madam? You've been hogging them for months!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Bbw and ssbbw are pure curve perfectionist for me but that's not to say petite bodies don't have curves either

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"id say 16 to 24 bbw

26 upwards ssbbw

Yeah I'd agree with that - though not with a tall size 16 maybe!

Now - are you sharing those sweets madam? You've been hogging them for months!!

"
We could take them off her with our teeth would you prefer left or right

(Kat) xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm impressed i think this is possibly the first "unique" thread topic ive seen in ages.

An actuall thread complaining that BBWs are not fat enough.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So women who aren't fat enough in another's eyes shouldn't call themselves a BBW?

well yeah!! skinny women have the world at their feet. no matter what bollocks people spout, most people prefer slimmer

if the skinny people nick the bbw labels wtf have us fatties got left???!!"

You've still got your health....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm impressed i think this is possibly the first "unique" thread topic ive seen in ages.

An actuall thread complaining that BBWs are not fat enough.

love it!!!

true tho

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By *ust PeachyWoman over a year ago

Prestonish

"id say 16 to 24 bbw

26 upwards ssbbw

Yeah I'd agree with that - though not with a tall size 16 maybe!

Now - are you sharing those sweets madam? You've been hogging them for months!!

We could take them off her with our teeth would you prefer left or right

(Kat) xx"

I'm going with the left! Looks like there may be more sweets on there!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Sure, you're pleasingly plump, if the South Pole is refreshingly chilly.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"id say 16 to 24 bbw

26 upwards ssbbw

Yeah I'd agree with that - though not with a tall size 16 maybe!

Now - are you sharing those sweets madam? You've been hogging them for months!!

We could take them off her with our teeth would you prefer left or right

(Kat) xx

I'm going with the left! Looks like there may be more sweets on there!

"
. ok enjoy and the sweets xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Does it matter x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's all labels isn't it?

I generally find most labels a bit itchy...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's all labels isn't it?

I generally find most labels a bit itchy...

"
. And scratchy (Kat) xx

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By *BWandhusbandCouple over a year ago

Midlands

"It's all labels isn't it?

I generally find most labels a bit itchy...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You're brave!!

I've got proper rolls and a huge arse/thighs. That just makes me wobbly or if you want to use the f word, that.

Even worse, those who certainly don't qualify for the "beautiful" part of the category. Just because you're in the larger spectrum, doesn't make you pretty

Conversely just because a women is large does not mean she is not pretty either.

Therefore I see the terms bbw and ssbbw more as affirmations than descriptions. It is a reclamation of attractiveness in the face of unwarranted negativity from the body fascists. "

It's exactly the same for women who are naturally very slim, or short, or tall. People will always feel they can comment on anything that is outside of the average _iew of beauty...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It doesn't matter what you call yourself..

There is always some argumentative fecker who is going to disagree with you

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So women who aren't fat enough in another's eyes shouldn't call themselves a BBW? "

It's all a tad bizarre

What does the SS stand for, super size?

If so isn't it just a case of one persons BB might be another's SSBB....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think, bbw should be considered a BEAUTIFUL woman above the average weight.

And first of all she should be beautiful and NOT obese, because nowadays every fatty calls herself a bbw

Also, UK's average weight for women is way above than in the rest of European countries, so my definition may sound strange

NOT EVERY FATTY TYVM!!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think, bbw should be considered a BEAUTIFUL woman above the average weight.

And first of all she should be beautiful and NOT obese, because nowadays every fatty calls herself a bbw

Also, UK's average weight for women is way above than in the rest of European countries, so my definition may sound strange

"
not every fatty.....I know I'm fat and not bbw

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Id say a BBW is anyone over a size 10. SSBBW anyone over a size 14

Labels, dont you just love 'em!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

whats wrong with the old term of rubenesque perfectly sums up ladies that are large 14/16 but in proportion, rubens liked to paint larger ladies , perfect for the mmm i 'm not sure if fat but certainly not skinny xx

by the way i love all of you with varying passion depending on my hormones ! xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Id say a BBW is anyone over a size 10. SSBBW anyone over a size 14

Labels, dont you just love 'em!"

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By *erdita Von TeaseWoman over a year ago

nottingham

"Id say a BBW is anyone over a size 10. SSBBW anyone over a size 14

Labels, dont you just love 'em!"

Don't forget under size 10 you are an anorexic 'bag of bones'

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Id say a BBW is anyone over a size 10. SSBBW anyone over a size 14

Labels, dont you just love 'em!

Don't forget under size 10 you are an anorexic 'bag of bones'

I like fucking very skinny women, you can see you cock move inside, its like watching Alien before it pops out of his stomach

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Aint this whats wrong society today ?

Why do we have to have labels ?

We are all people and we all have feelings.

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By *amissCouple over a year ago

chelmsford

We often use the word voluptuous for larger ladies, especially the curvy ones

. It is subjective because we have friends who are a 16/18 who have solid,toned and shapely bodies

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A lot of women who label themselves as "BBW's" are anything but.

It's like false advertising which usually leads to disappointment.

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By *amissCouple over a year ago

chelmsford

"Aint this whats wrong society today ?

Why do we have to have labels ?

We are all people and we all have feelings."

Quite right

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By *otnhardandyMan over a year ago

Kings Lynn

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"wrong. words have a meaning in our language and if you use a definition, you should use it correctly.

that's the point of the thread asking what people think. so you are the only person that can decide what it means. good to know! !! "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Aint this whats wrong society today ?

Why do we have to have labels ?

We are all people and we all have feelings."

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By *lowercandyWoman over a year ago

Lancashire

"I'm an SSBBW - I am a very large lady

Having read many posts on the forum about BBW and the ladies that reply I'm curious as to how women define themselves as BBW.

So........

Ladies - what do you think makes your body be classed as either BBW or SSBBW?

Guys say 'the bigger the better' but when they actually see a proper BBW or SSBBW they are horrified - what do guys perceive as BBW & SSBBW?"

OP I'm curious why you believe that ssbbw is the "label" first you ... looking at your visible photos I wouldn't say you are...

But that's from MY perception of ssbbw.

I personally think I'm rubenesque

Everything is so individual and people have their own ideas of these things.... There's been numerous threads asking this and in the end there isn't a definitive answer

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By *ola.Woman over a year ago

Just where I need to be.

"may have big boobs but otherwise are a 'normal' size as society perceives." What is normal and what society op? One size doesn't fit all.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

OK. I misunderstood the acronym...I thought BBW was Big Breasted Woman, and hence thought I qualified for that as 32f on someone 5ft is big...

I now realise I'm not a BBW

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

""may have big boobs but otherwise are a 'normal' size as society perceives." What is normal and what society op? One size doesn't fit all."

Wow where have you been hiding!!

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By *ettyboop61Woman over a year ago

St Neots

Fat that's me! .....lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm an SSBBW - I am a very large lady

Having read many posts on the forum about BBW and the ladies that reply I'm curious as to how women define themselves as BBW.

So........

Ladies - what do you think makes your body be classed as either BBW or SSBBW?

Guys say 'the bigger the better' but when they actually see a proper BBW or SSBBW they are horrified - what do guys perceive as BBW & SSBBW?

You're brave!!

I've got proper rolls and a huge arse/thighs. That just makes me wobbly or if you want to use the f word, that. "

Not the f word it should be phat, pretty, hot and thick (not mentally)

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By *BW Snowbunny OP Woman over a year ago

Somewhere over the Rainbow

It's good to see a diverse mix of replies

My own pics only show the relatively good parts of my body. I'm a size 30/32 hence why I class myself as SSBBW. I would be happy to say SSBW - super size big woman. I don't think myself beautiful

I personally, certainly would not class anyone over a size 10 as BBW, in fact that shocks me. A lot of women would be horrified to be thought fat at that size.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I know this will piss off a sizeable amount of the demographic on here, but I'm gonna say it anyway

...

I don't like this fetishising of fat (and now hugely fat) people. I think it normalises something that shouldn't be normal.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And how do you define normal (Kat) xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And how do you define normal (Kat) xx"

Healthy.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I know this will piss off a sizeable amount of the demographic on here, but I'm gonna say it anyway

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I don't like this fetishising of fat (and now hugely fat) people. I think it normalises something that shouldn't be normal."

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By *eliWoman over a year ago

"I know this will piss off a sizeable amount of the demographic on here, but I'm gonna say it anyway

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I don't like this fetishising of fat (and now hugely fat) people. I think it normalises something that shouldn't be normal."

Hmm, it can't really fetishize and normalise at the same time. Fetishes are things which aren't inherently sexual that become sexual but are still widely _iewed as unusual.

What you could have put is that you don't like this encouragement of fat and fatter people as it normalises it.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"You're brave!!

I've got proper rolls and a huge arse/thighs. That just makes me wobbly or if you want to use the f word, that.

I've never met men that thick.

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By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

"I know this will piss off a sizeable amount of the demographic on here, but I'm gonna say it anyway

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I don't like this fetishising of fat (and now hugely fat) people. I think it normalises something that shouldn't be normal."

I think that is fair

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And how do you define normal (Kat) xx

Healthy."
. I have no health problems I eat fruit and veg daily I can go up and down stairs without getting breathless xx

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By *hav02Man over a year ago

Glasgow/London

To be pedantic, isn't BBW =big breasted?

Therefore, a size 12 woman with a G cup is a BBW, but not a "large" woman overall...

A size 12 woman with a B cup, isn't a BBW

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I know this will piss off a sizeable amount of the demographic on here, but I'm gonna say it anyway

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I don't like this fetishising of fat (and now hugely fat) people. I think it normalises something that shouldn't be normal.

Hmm, it can't really fetishize and normalise at the same time. Fetishes are things which aren't inherently sexual that become sexual but are still widely _iewed as unusual.

What you could have put is that you don't like this encouragement of fat and fatter people as it normalises it."

Thanks for the lesson in semantics. It's not quite what I meant though as I don't know that it encourages it - more that it doesn't challenge people to change and makes them feel it's 'acceptable' (for want of a better word).

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I know this will piss off a sizeable amount of the demographic on here, but I'm gonna say it anyway

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I don't like this fetishising of fat (and now hugely fat) people. I think it normalises something that shouldn't be normal."

i agree. society got too worried about hurting people's feelings but it backfired

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"wrong. words have a meaning in our language and if you use a definition, you should use it correctly.

overall society can dictate what is beautiful or hot though. it tends to be based on looking healthy, which is why fat had never been anything to strive for. i don't understand why it is now but i'm guessing it still isn't, just people are fat and it's ok to be who you are.

i get that body positive is trying to promote everyone as beautiful, which it is right not to make people feel ashamed of being what they are.

as for the difference between bbw and ssbbw, i think there's only a difference in porn. like all obese women are just bbw away from porn.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I know this will piss off a sizeable amount of the demographic on here, but I'm gonna say it anyway

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I don't like this fetishising of fat (and now hugely fat) people. I think it normalises something that shouldn't be normal.

i agree. society got too worried about hurting people's feelings but it backfired"

This is proving true for lots of things

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I know this will piss off a sizeable amount of the demographic on here, but I'm gonna say it anyway

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I don't like this fetishising of fat (and now hugely fat) people. I think it normalises something that shouldn't be normal.

i agree. society got too worried about hurting people's feelings but it backfired

This is proving true for lots of things

i'd say it's a fine line between the 2 but more like a wobbly line cos some people are oblivious and others are offended by even their own shadows

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"wrong. words have a meaning in our language and if you use a definition, you should use it correctly.

i get that body positive is trying to promote everyone as beautiful, which it is right not to make people feel ashamed of being what they are.

as for the difference between bbw and ssbbw, i think there's only a difference in porn. like all obese women are just bbw away from porn."

Although (to contradict my earlier point) some societies perceive fat with health & wealth.

It's funny looking at music videos in some African countries. They're quite different to the models we see here.

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By *eliWoman over a year ago

"I know this will piss off a sizeable amount of the demographic on here, but I'm gonna say it anyway

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I don't like this fetishising of fat (and now hugely fat) people. I think it normalises something that shouldn't be normal.

Hmm, it can't really fetishize and normalise at the same time. Fetishes are things which aren't inherently sexual that become sexual but are still widely _iewed as unusual.

What you could have put is that you don't like this encouragement of fat and fatter people as it normalises it.

It's not a lesson in semantics - it's merely doing what you have done in previous posts. I agree with your overall sentiment - if you meant it doesn't challenge people to change.

If you meant fetishising, well that means something different - it's not mainstream if it is and that should be better than it being so.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I know this will piss off a sizeable amount of the demographic on here, but I'm gonna say it anyway

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I don't like this fetishising of fat (and now hugely fat) people. I think it normalises something that shouldn't be normal.

Hmm, it can't really fetishize and normalise at the same time. Fetishes are things which aren't inherently sexual that become sexual but are still widely _iewed as unusual.

What you could have put is that you don't like this encouragement of fat and fatter people as it normalises it.

It's not a lesson in semantics - it's merely doing what you have done in previous posts. I agree with your overall sentiment - if you meant it doesn't challenge people to change.

If you meant fetishising, well that means something different - it's not mainstream if it is and that should be better than it being so.

I meant this:

Medical Definition of fetish. : an object or bodily part whose real or fantasized presence is psychologically necessary for sexual gratification and that is an object of fixation to the extent that it may interfere with complete sexual expression.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"wrong. words have a meaning in our language and if you use a definition, you should use it correctly.

i get that body positive is trying to promote everyone as beautiful, which it is right not to make people feel ashamed of being what they are.

as for the difference between bbw and ssbbw, i think there's only a difference in porn. like all obese women are just bbw away from porn.

Although (to contradict my earlier point) some societies perceive fat with health & wealth.

It's funny looking at music videos in some African countries. They're quite different to the models we see here."

similar here i guess? if your looks are percieved as poor then you're slagged off for it, jeremy kyle and all the bad teeth on that is a good example. it can cost money to fix your teeth.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"To be pedantic, isn't BBW =big breasted?

Therefore, a size 12 woman with a G cup is a BBW, but not a "large" woman overall...

A size 12 woman with a B cup, isn't a BBW

no its nothing to do with breasts.. its about a womans size.. how 'fat' she is..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"wrong. words have a meaning in our language and if you use a definition, you should use it correctly.

i get that body positive is trying to promote everyone as beautiful, which it is right not to make people feel ashamed of being what they are.

as for the difference between bbw and ssbbw, i think there's only a difference in porn. like all obese women are just bbw away from porn.

Although (to contradict my earlier point) some societies perceive fat with health & wealth.

It's funny looking at music videos in some African countries. They're quite different to the models we see here.

similar here i guess? if your looks are percieved as poor then you're slagged off for it, jeremy kyle and all the bad teeth on that is a good example. it can cost money to fix your teeth."

I guess but I was referencing the opposite. They fill their videos with sexy looking big fat backing dancers because that's still perceived as aspirational. Understandable in a country that still has famines.

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By *eliWoman over a year ago

"I meant this:

A bodily part or object? And fat people interfere with complete sexual expression? That's a definition for a foot fetish or a shoe fetish or car. Not a fat person! The medical definition is so because that type of fetish is seen as being disadvantageous to a good sex life. Unless of course the rolls of fat are the object? I can see why I was confused.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Personally id say bbw 18-24. Ssbbw 26+

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I meant this:

The body part wpuld be the fat.

And the interfere with sexual expression is a posh way of saying without the "fetish" object/person the person with the fetish finds it difficult or impossible to achieve orgasm/satisfaction.

Basicaly somone with a fat/bbw fetish needs a fat partner/porn/ to orgasm.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Personally id say bbw 18-24. Ssbbw 26+ "

thats what i went with

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I hate using ssbbw and bbw as something to lable myself as.

In my eyes I'm fat. There's no sugar coating that and calling myself something else would drive me Nutts.

Anyone over a size 26 like myself would probably class them selves as ssbbw if they chose to use that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I meant this:

It's a disadvantage if it isn't there.

The only issue with the definition is that it doesn't suit the point you wished to argue.

I think most people followed my meaning without the need to pull out the dictionary... although that's a fetish I thoroughly approve of

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"wrong. words have a meaning in our language and if you use a definition, you should use it correctly.

i get that body positive is trying to promote everyone as beautiful, which it is right not to make people feel ashamed of being what they are.

as for the difference between bbw and ssbbw, i think there's only a difference in porn. like all obese women are just bbw away from porn.

Although (to contradict my earlier point) some societies perceive fat with health & wealth.

It's funny looking at music videos in some African countries. They're quite different to the models we see here.

similar here i guess? if your looks are percieved as poor then you're slagged off for it, jeremy kyle and all the bad teeth on that is a good example. it can cost money to fix your teeth.

i was thinking it's more in poor countries that being fat is a sign of wealth, and therefore a status to attain for, yeah.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Personally id say bbw 18-24. Ssbbw 26+

thats what i went with

Which is why I flick between the 2 as my weight goes up and down massively

I choose to label myself not because I think I'm beautiful I hate that bit of it, but as warning to those who don't like fatty's to steer clear move along, save peoples time etc. and not be disappointed cos I know I'm not for everyone.

But at the end of the day we are still human beings with feelings.

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By *lowercandyWoman over a year ago

Lancashire

"And how do you define normal (Kat) xx

Healthy."

Bigger people can be healthy though...

Healthy surely is about good blood pressure/bmi/cholesterol and not getting out of breath at the slightest thing?

I used to walk and exercise regularly but I have never been slim /skinny /light of weight

So again... subjective if based on looks :/

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And how do you define normal (Kat) xx

Healthy.

Bigger people can be healthy though...

Healthy surely is about good blood pressure/bmi/cholesterol and not getting out of breath at the slightest thing?

I used to walk and exercise regularly but I have never been slim /skinny /light of weight

So again... subjective if based on looks :/"

Of course bigger people can be healthy.

But being obese isn't healthy, even if you can get up the stairs without breathing hard.

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By *lowercandyWoman over a year ago

Lancashire

"And how do you define normal (Kat) xx

Healthy.

Bigger people can be healthy though...

Healthy surely is about good blood pressure/bmi/cholesterol and not getting out of breath at the slightest thing?

I used to walk and exercise regularly but I have never been slim /skinny /light of weight

So again... subjective if based on looks :/

Of course bigger people can be healthy.

But being obese isn't healthy, even if you can get up the stairs without breathing hard."

But then you would be deciding if someone was obese based purely on looks

The current medical reports of the country clearly puts the majority of people officially obese (and over) though some wouldn't look it.

So again things can't be as black and white as

"Oh look they are obese (in my opinion) thus unhealthy "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And how do you define normal (Kat) xx

Healthy.

Bigger people can be healthy though...

Healthy surely is about good blood pressure/bmi/cholesterol and not getting out of breath at the slightest thing?

I used to walk and exercise regularly but I have never been slim /skinny /light of weight

So again... subjective if based on looks :/

Of course bigger people can be healthy.

But being obese isn't healthy, even if you can get up the stairs without breathing hard.

But then you would be deciding if someone was obese based purely on looks

The current medical reports of the country clearly puts the majority of people officially obese (and over) though some wouldn't look it.

So again things can't be as black and white as

"Oh look they are obese (in my opinion) thus unhealthy "

No I'm deciding they're obese based on the medical definition of obesity. And yes it's well known that there is an issue with obesity in this country. And it's well known that this is bad for people's health.

Hence my first point that I don't think things that fetishise fat or make it desirable are good.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And how do you define normal (Kat) xx

Healthy.

Bigger people can be healthy though...

Healthy surely is about good blood pressure/bmi/cholesterol and not getting out of breath at the slightest thing?

I used to walk and exercise regularly but I have never been slim /skinny /light of weight

So again... subjective if based on looks :/

Of course bigger people can be healthy.

But being obese isn't healthy, even if you can get up the stairs without breathing hard.

But then you would be deciding if someone was obese based purely on looks

The current medical reports of the country clearly puts the majority of people officially obese (and over) though some wouldn't look it.

So again things can't be as black and white as

"Oh look they are obese (in my opinion) thus unhealthy "

Im sorry but 35%+ body fat is always going to be visibly obvious.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I read someone described themselve as a smaller bbw....

That's like saying I'm a taller little person... can someone help out a confused Yank?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I read someone described themselve as a smaller bbw....

That's like saying I'm a taller little person... can someone help out a confused Yank?"

I'm one of the tallest short people

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You're brave!!

I've got proper rolls and a huge arse/thighs. That just makes me wobbly or if you want to use the f word, that.

But is she using it to refer to being a big woman or big breasted since I've heard BBW dined 3 ways

Big Black Woman

Big Beautiful Woman

Big Breasted Woman

Majority know it's meaning a big woman but not all.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And how do you define normal (Kat) xx

Healthy.

Bigger people can be healthy though...

Healthy surely is about good blood pressure/bmi/cholesterol and not getting out of breath at the slightest thing?

I used to walk and exercise regularly but I have never been slim /skinny /light of weight

So again... subjective if based on looks :/

Of course bigger people can be healthy.

But being obese isn't healthy, even if you can get up the stairs without breathing hard.

But then you would be deciding if someone was obese based purely on looks

The current medical reports of the country clearly puts the majority of people officially obese (and over) though some wouldn't look it.

So again things can't be as black and white as

"Oh look they are obese (in my opinion) thus unhealthy "

Im sorry but 35%+ body fat is always going to be visibly obvious."

Wrong.

You can't say who is classed as overweight/obese, just by looking at them.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And how do you define normal (Kat) xx

Healthy.

Bigger people can be healthy though...

Healthy surely is about good blood pressure/bmi/cholesterol and not getting out of breath at the slightest thing?

I used to walk and exercise regularly but I have never been slim /skinny /light of weight

So again... subjective if based on looks :/

Of course bigger people can be healthy.

But being obese isn't healthy, even if you can get up the stairs without breathing hard.

But then you would be deciding if someone was obese based purely on looks

The current medical reports of the country clearly puts the majority of people officially obese (and over) though some wouldn't look it.

So again things can't be as black and white as

"Oh look they are obese (in my opinion) thus unhealthy "

Im sorry but 35%+ body fat is always going to be visibly obvious.

Wrong.

You can't say who is classed as overweight/obese, just by looking at them. "

If someone has rolls of fat you can make a visual diagnosis that they're not in the best of health.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

sad thing is, obese people who exercise are more likely to die earlier than slim people who do not. that's how unhealthy overall being obese is.

and yeah you can tell who is obese, in a fat way. being fat is pretty much obvious, being obese even more so. although you do get people telling fat people they aren't fat, to be polite usually...i've even been told i'm not fat when i know i am.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And how do you define normal (Kat) xx

Healthy.

Bigger people can be healthy though...

Healthy surely is about good blood pressure/bmi/cholesterol and not getting out of breath at the slightest thing?

I used to walk and exercise regularly but I have never been slim /skinny /light of weight

So again... subjective if based on looks :/

Of course bigger people can be healthy.

But being obese isn't healthy, even if you can get up the stairs without breathing hard.

But then you would be deciding if someone was obese based purely on looks

The current medical reports of the country clearly puts the majority of people officially obese (and over) though some wouldn't look it.

So again things can't be as black and white as

"Oh look they are obese (in my opinion) thus unhealthy "

Im sorry but 35%+ body fat is always going to be visibly obvious.

Wrong.

You can't say who is classed as overweight/obese, just by looking at them.

If someone has rolls of fat you can make a visual diagnosis that they're not in the best of health.

But you can't look at someone and say that they're either obese or overweight. You can look at them and say they're fat.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And how do you define normal (Kat) xx

Healthy.

Bigger people can be healthy though...

Healthy surely is about good blood pressure/bmi/cholesterol and not getting out of breath at the slightest thing?

I used to walk and exercise regularly but I have never been slim /skinny /light of weight

So again... subjective if based on looks :/

Of course bigger people can be healthy.

But being obese isn't healthy, even if you can get up the stairs without breathing hard.

But then you would be deciding if someone was obese based purely on looks

The current medical reports of the country clearly puts the majority of people officially obese (and over) though some wouldn't look it.

So again things can't be as black and white as

"Oh look they are obese (in my opinion) thus unhealthy "

Im sorry but 35%+ body fat is always going to be visibly obvious.

Wrong.

You can't say who is classed as overweight/obese, just by looking at them.

If someone has rolls of fat you can make a visual diagnosis that they're not in the best of health.

You're a brave soul. You keep writing common sense only to be rebuked with opinion.

You will have the body shaming police along soon telling you that people with rolls and that ride a scooters are not obese.

Keep up the good fight

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And how do you define normal (Kat) xx

Healthy.

Bigger people can be healthy though...

Healthy surely is about good blood pressure/bmi/cholesterol and not getting out of breath at the slightest thing?

I used to walk and exercise regularly but I have never been slim /skinny /light of weight

So again... subjective if based on looks :/

Of course bigger people can be healthy.

But being obese isn't healthy, even if you can get up the stairs without breathing hard.

But then you would be deciding if someone was obese based purely on looks

The current medical reports of the country clearly puts the majority of people officially obese (and over) though some wouldn't look it.

So again things can't be as black and white as

"Oh look they are obese (in my opinion) thus unhealthy "

Im sorry but 35%+ body fat is always going to be visibly obvious.

Wrong.

You can't say who is classed as overweight/obese, just by looking at them. "

What % are you using as your line for obease?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And how do you define normal (Kat) xx

Healthy.

Bigger people can be healthy though...

Healthy surely is about good blood pressure/bmi/cholesterol and not getting out of breath at the slightest thing?

I used to walk and exercise regularly but I have never been slim /skinny /light of weight

So again... subjective if based on looks :/

Of course bigger people can be healthy.

But being obese isn't healthy, even if you can get up the stairs without breathing hard.

But then you would be deciding if someone was obese based purely on looks

The current medical reports of the country clearly puts the majority of people officially obese (and over) though some wouldn't look it.

So again things can't be as black and white as

"Oh look they are obese (in my opinion) thus unhealthy "

Im sorry but 35%+ body fat is always going to be visibly obvious.

Wrong.

You can't say who is classed as overweight/obese, just by looking at them.

What % are you using as your line for obease?"

I'm not using a percentage. BMI is classed as overweight - obese - morbidly obese.

Due to height and activity levels, it varies widely. Therefore, you can look at someone and say they're fat, however, you can't say what BMI category they fall into!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's also a very poor measure given how and when it came about. No one has come up with an easy alternative though.

Pop most professional rugby players in and they come out as obese yet there is barely any fat on them.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But you can't look at someone and say that they're either obese or overweight. You can look at them and say they're fat.

Of course you can. I accept it's difficult where marginal but that's not the point.

I also think our perception of what a fat person looks like is becoming less distinct because being fat is increasingly normal.

Nonetheless we know what a fat person looks like.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's also a very poor measure given how and when it came about. No one has come up with an easy alternative though.

Pop most professional rugby players in and they come out as obese yet there is barely any fat on them."

The very reason we assess with our eyes too

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But you can't look at someone and say that they're either obese or overweight. You can look at them and say they're fat.

Of course you can. I accept it's difficult where marginal but that's not the point.

I also think our perception of what a fat person looks like is becoming less distinct because being fat is increasingly normal.

Nonetheless we know what a fat person looks like."

Personally, I have no interest in conversing with you both. You've made it clear that you have an issue with size from previous threads and posts that you've made.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's also a very poor measure given how and when it came about. No one has come up with an easy alternative though.

Pop most professional rugby players in and they come out as obese yet there is barely any fat on them."

I know... it's a bit floored really.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But you can't look at someone and say that they're either obese or overweight. You can look at them and say they're fat.

Of course you can. I accept it's difficult where marginal but that's not the point.

I also think our perception of what a fat person looks like is becoming less distinct because being fat is increasingly normal.

Nonetheless we know what a fat person looks like.

Personally, I have no interest in conversing with you both. You've made it clear that you have an issue with size from previous threads and posts that you've made.

Think my first post was clear about this

I think it's a problem that needs challenging, not encouraging, not ignoring.

But you ignore it if that makes you feel better

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm 20/22 and 40DD but I'm also 5ft 9,

I have plenty of fat and wobbly bits, i always say it's upto the person looking at me to decide if I'm beautiful, I just think I'm average looking and fat x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But you can't look at someone and say that they're either obese or overweight. You can look at them and say they're fat.

Of course you can. I accept it's difficult where marginal but that's not the point.

I also think our perception of what a fat person looks like is becoming less distinct because being fat is increasingly normal.

Nonetheless we know what a fat person looks like.

Personally, I have no interest in conversing with you both. You've made it clear that you have an issue with size from previous threads and posts that you've made.

Think my first post was clear about this

I think it's a problem that needs challenging, not encouraging, not ignoring.

But you ignore it if that makes you feel better

Completely contradicting myself here by replying, but...

It is an issue that needs challenging, I completely agree. My personal issue is the huge generalisations made about fat people. I was a lot bigger at one point, so I decided to train and eat better. I lost 7 stone and even though I'm still a size 22, I'm fitter than some of my slim friends. My cholesterol is good, blood levels and liver and kidney functions are normal. I understand some people will look at me and think "she's fat, she must be unhealthy". People will also maybe think I'm lazy or I eat terribly not knowing that I train 5 times a week and eat very well. Despite this, I'm not hiding my body away until I'm at my ideal weight.

The whole body positive/confidence movement was brought about because whatever stage we're at in life, or whatever our personal situation, why should we hide away.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And how do you define normal (Kat) xx

Healthy."

Ha ha

I am 18st, I have a BMI that classes me as obese, my blood pressure is perfect, my cholesterol is fine, I eat plenty of fruit and veg but l also like cakes chocolate and takeaways. I am not unhealthy just because I'm 20/22 and fat

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But you can't look at someone and say that they're either obese or overweight. You can look at them and say they're fat.

Of course you can. I accept it's difficult where marginal but that's not the point.

I also think our perception of what a fat person looks like is becoming less distinct because being fat is increasingly normal.

Nonetheless we know what a fat person looks like.

Personally, I have no interest in conversing with you both. You've made it clear that you have an issue with size from previous threads and posts that you've made.

Think my first post was clear about this

I think it's a problem that needs challenging, not encouraging, not ignoring.

But you ignore it if that makes you feel better

Completely contradicting myself here by replying, but...

The whole body positive/confidence movement was brought about because whatever stage we're at in life, or whatever our personal situation, why should we hide away.

But I'll bet you take most confidence by continuing to lose weight - not settling.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If someone has rolls of fat you can make a visual diagnosis that they're not in the best of health.

"
not true... I to look at look unfit... yet swim over a mile most days.. walk 5 miles and do numerous aerobics classes and dont get out of breathe going upstairs.... my blood pressure is just spot on... my cholesterol is great... and in general I am very healthy... so its not a fair assessment to say that

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I am not unhealthy just because I'm 20/22 and fat "

You are.

Had you said 20/22 and muscular that would be different.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But you can't look at someone and say that they're either obese or overweight. You can look at them and say they're fat.

Of course you can. I accept it's difficult where marginal but that's not the point.

I also think our perception of what a fat person looks like is becoming less distinct because being fat is increasingly normal.

Nonetheless we know what a fat person looks like.

Personally, I have no interest in conversing with you both. You've made it clear that you have an issue with size from previous threads and posts that you've made.

Think my first post was clear about this

I think it's a problem that needs challenging, not encouraging, not ignoring.

But you ignore it if that makes you feel better

Completely contradicting myself here by replying, but...

The whole body positive/confidence movement was brought about because whatever stage we're at in life, or whatever our personal situation, why should we hide away.

But I'll bet you take most confidence by continuing to lose weight - not settling."

Not really. I weight train now so I get my confidence from being stronger and more toned.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well I have to confess that I'm impressed at how healthy everyone is

Being fat is the new healthy...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well I have to confess that I'm impressed at how healthy everyone is

Being fat is the new healthy..."

Did a fat person bully you at school!? Did they maybe run over your cat when you were a child. Eat all your crisps? We do that, I'm afraid.

I'm just wondering where the issue with fat people has come from...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well I have to confess that I'm impressed at how healthy everyone is

Being fat is the new healthy...

Did a fat person bully you at school!? Did they maybe run over your cat when you were a child. Eat all your crisps? We do that, I'm afraid.

I'm just wondering where the issue with fat people has come from... "

The topic was about labels for fat people.

Please stop eating other people's crisps. It's rude and bad for your health.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well I have to confess that I'm impressed at how healthy everyone is

Being fat is the new healthy...

Did a fat person bully you at school!? Did they maybe run over your cat when you were a child. Eat all your crisps? We do that, I'm afraid.

I'm just wondering where the issue with fat people has come from...

The topic was about labels for fat people.

Please stop eating other people's crisps. It's rude and bad for your health."

Yeah, it was definitely the crisps then.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I guess it's up to every individual to decide how they describe themselves, others can _iew their pics and decide if they agree or not.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Monster Munch.

Pissed me right off

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well I have to confess that I'm impressed at how healthy everyone is

Being fat is the new healthy...

Did a fat person bully you at school!? Did they maybe run over your cat when you were a child. Eat all your crisps? We do that, I'm afraid.

I'm just wondering where the issue with fat people has come from...

The topic was about labels for fat people.

Please stop eating other people's crisps. It's rude and bad for your health.

Yeah, it was definitely the crisps then. "

Assumptions that fat people must eating crisp's oh dear

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well I have to confess that I'm impressed at how healthy everyone is

Being fat is the new healthy...

Did a fat person bully you at school!? Did they maybe run over your cat when you were a child. Eat all your crisps? We do that, I'm afraid.

I'm just wondering where the issue with fat people has come from...

The topic was about labels for fat people.

Please stop eating other people's crisps. It's rude and bad for your health.

Yeah, it was definitely the crisps then.

Assumptions that fat people must eating crisp's oh dear

cos we assumed they run over cats too

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Wouldn't it be easier to determine people's size, and whether they fitted your preference, if people just had realistic full body shots? Easy enough to do, but the number of profiles with a foot, a big toe or an eye is ridiculous. Be proud of yourselves ladies and then no labels will be required.

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By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

"Wouldn't it be easier to determine people's size, and whether they fitted your preference, if people just had realistic full body shots? Easy enough to do, but the number of profiles with a foot, a big toe or an eye is ridiculous. Be proud of yourselves ladies and then no labels will be required."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well I have to confess that I'm impressed at how healthy everyone is

Being fat is the new healthy...

Did a fat person bully you at school!? Did they maybe run over your cat when you were a child. Eat all your crisps? We do that, I'm afraid.

I'm just wondering where the issue with fat people has come from... "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Problem solved

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By *eliWoman over a year ago

But maybe body confidence and the like might prevent it being public?

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By *edonistic ExplorersCouple over a year ago

Stratford

This thread started as what defines a BBW from a SSBBW and as usual has deteriorated into a slanging match. Sad. No one posting here has any illusions as to whether or not their body might function more efficiently if they carried no more weight on their joints than was medically acceptable. Note that I'm choosing words carefully here to avoid confrontation... Genetics and life define who we are - on the outside as well as the inside. Live and let live people.

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By *asokittyWoman over a year ago

Nr Worksop

"But you can't look at someone and say that they're either obese or overweight. You can look at them and say they're fat.

Of course you can. I accept it's difficult where marginal but that's not the point.

I also think our perception of what a fat person looks like is becoming less distinct because being fat is increasingly normal.

Nonetheless we know what a fat person looks like.

Personally, I have no interest in conversing with you both. You've made it clear that you have an issue with size from previous threads and posts that you've made.

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By *oxy_minxWoman over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

Yeap! It is exactly the same as the like of me only having the choice of different cock pics to choose from, it is no different

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No one posting here has any illusions as to whether or not their body might function more efficiently if they carried no more weight on their joints than was medically acceptable."

Some earlier posts suggest they do.

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By *eliWoman over a year ago

"No one posting here has any illusions as to whether or not their body might function more efficiently if they carried no more weight on their joints than was medically acceptable.

Some earlier posts suggest they do."

No, earlier posts suggested just because they are overweight it doesn't mean they are completely unhealthy. Not that if they lost weight their body wouldn't function more efficiently.

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By *uke olovingmanMan over a year ago

Gravesend

Nazi bbw?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No one posting here has any illusions as to whether or not their body might function more efficiently if they carried no more weight on their joints than was medically acceptable.

Some earlier posts suggest they do.

No, earlier posts suggested just because they are overweight it doesn't mean they are completely unhealthy. Not that if they lost weight their body wouldn't function more efficiently.

Didn't we already have the semantics debate?!

Let's skip the bollocks.

Being fat is unhealthy. Being obese is really unhealthy. This is regardless of I can swim a mile blah blah blah.

We all know what fat looks like.

I made the point that I don't think fat should be aspirational.

I knew full well some would take it personally and made the relevant disclaimer. They did and cue various excuses and defensiveness.

Whatever way you want to put it, all this is as it is.

I don't think fat people should be shamed, but I do think the emphasis should always be toward being healthy. I don't think glorifying in SSBBW etc. helps.

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By *urvymamaWoman over a year ago

Doncaster

"No one posting here has any illusions as to whether or not their body might function more efficiently if they carried no more weight on their joints than was medically acceptable.

Some earlier posts suggest they do.

No, earlier posts suggested just because they are overweight it doesn't mean they are completely unhealthy. Not that if they lost weight their body wouldn't function more efficiently.

Didn't we already have the semantics debate?!

Let's skip the bollocks.

Being fat is unhealthy. Being obese is really unhealthy. This is regardless of I can swim a mile blah blah blah.

We all know what fat looks like.

I made the point that I don't think fat should be aspirational.

I knew full well some would take it personally and made the relevant disclaimer. They did and cue various excuses and defensiveness.

Whatever way you want to put it, all this is as it is.

I don't think fat people should be shamed, but I do think the emphasis should always be toward being healthy. I don't think glorifying in SSBBW etc. helps."

And I think both sides have made their points

I do find it a bit strange you don't want obesity glorified yet you'll continue to comment on a thread about it this bumping it and keeping it relevant until it closes. Surely is best to let it fizzle out

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't think I've contributed to glorifying it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I guess round is not a reasonable shape (Kat) xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No one posting here has any illusions as to whether or not their body might function more efficiently if they carried no more weight on their joints than was medically acceptable.

Some earlier posts suggest they do.

No, earlier posts suggested just because they are overweight it doesn't mean they are completely unhealthy. Not that if they lost weight their body wouldn't function more efficiently.

Didn't we already have the semantics debate?!

Let's skip the bollocks.

Being fat is unhealthy. Being obese is really unhealthy. This is regardless of I can swim a mile blah blah blah.

We all know what fat looks like.

I made the point that I don't think fat should be aspirational.

I knew full well some would take it personally and made the relevant disclaimer. They did and cue various excuses and defensiveness.

Whatever way you want to put it, all this is as it is.

I don't think fat people should be shamed, but I do think the emphasis should always be toward being healthy. I don't think glorifying in SSBBW etc. helps."

in terms of longevity it's actually more healthy to be overweight.

being slim or obese shortens life, being of correct BMI gives a decent length of life, being overwieght (and not obese) gives the best outcome.

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By *urvymamaWoman over a year ago

Doncaster

"I don't think I've contributed to glorifying it

Your keeping it relevant to discussion, some could interpret keeping the discussion relevant as glorifying it. I've been around this forums for years and most BBW threads do fizzle out, unless someone wants to jump on the it's unhealthy topic, then butt hurt people of both sides of the debate have to jump in

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Plenty an ugly attitude on here - live and let live

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By *eliWoman over a year ago

"I don't think fat people should be shamed, but I do think the emphasis should always be toward being healthy. I don't think glorifying in SSBBW etc. helps."

This isn't a semantics debate. You seem to proclaim that when ever someone is challenging you - it's either butthurt or semantics.

Let's cut the utter crap. Yeah, we get it. Fat is unhealthy as is obese. Being obese doesn't make you unable to do any physical exercise which is what previous posters were saying.

If people want to fuck when they are fat or obese or whatever label is used they will, regardless of if other people think it's encouraging it. Fatties fuck. Yes, glorification can happen of it which is bad but negativity won't alter that.

If people want to stay fat/obese/overweight they will. And not because an anonymous poster on a forum keeps reminding them how unhealthy they are _iewed by general public but insists it's challenging the status quo.

What would really challenge it is if you let these threads naturally run their course without bumping it and then bemoaning those who reply.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't think I've contributed to glorifying it

If we pretend it's not there it will go away?

That's kind of the thing I think needs challenging.

This debate won't make fuck all difference to anything. It's just idle chat on a sex forum.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No one posting here has any illusions as to whether or not their body might function more efficiently if they carried no more weight on their joints than was medically acceptable.

Some earlier posts suggest they do.

No, earlier posts suggested just because they are overweight it doesn't mean they are completely unhealthy. Not that if they lost weight their body wouldn't function more efficiently.

Didn't we already have the semantics debate?!

Let's skip the bollocks.

Being fat is unhealthy. Being obese is really unhealthy. This is regardless of I can swim a mile blah blah blah.

We all know what fat looks like.

I made the point that I don't think fat should be aspirational.

I knew full well some would take it personally and made the relevant disclaimer. They did and cue various excuses and defensiveness.

Whatever way you want to put it, all this is as it is.

I don't think fat people should be shamed, but I do think the emphasis should always be toward being healthy. I don't think glorifying in SSBBW etc. helps.

in terms of longevity it's actually more healthy to be overweight.

being slim or obese shortens life, being of correct BMI gives a decent length of life, being overwieght (and not obese) gives the best outcome."

I'd be interested to see where this info came from. Do you have a link?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't think fat people should be shamed, but I do think the emphasis should always be toward being healthy. I don't think glorifying in SSBBW etc. helps.

This isn't a semantics debate. You seem to proclaim that when ever someone is challenging you - it's either butthurt or semantics.

Let's cut the utter crap. Yeah, we get it. Fat is unhealthy as is obese. Being obese doesn't make you unable to do any physical exercise which is what previous posters were saying.

What would really challenge it is if you let these threads naturally run their course without bumping it and then bemoaning those who reply.

I mention semantics only with you because you've been more hung up on definitions than debating what's actually being discussed. Presumably because it makes you uncomfortable. In which case why not heed your own advice?

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By *asokittyWoman over a year ago

Nr Worksop

"I don't think I've contributed to glorifying it

If we pretend it's not there it will go away?

That's kind of the thing I think needs challenging.

Do does smoking, drinking, drug abuse, driving and texting, and many other things that 'cost the nhs'

But you never see that on forums, just abuse the fatties like it's the worst possible thing in the world. It's an easy target, you know because we carry some extra weight we're undeserving of attention or confidence.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No one posting here has any illusions as to whether or not their body might function more efficiently if they carried no more weight on their joints than was medically acceptable.

Some earlier posts suggest they do.

No, earlier posts suggested just because they are overweight it doesn't mean they are completely unhealthy. Not that if they lost weight their body wouldn't function more efficiently.

Didn't we already have the semantics debate?!

Let's skip the bollocks.

Being fat is unhealthy. Being obese is really unhealthy. This is regardless of I can swim a mile blah blah blah.

We all know what fat looks like.

I made the point that I don't think fat should be aspirational.

I knew full well some would take it personally and made the relevant disclaimer. They did and cue various excuses and defensiveness.

Whatever way you want to put it, all this is as it is.

I don't think fat people should be shamed, but I do think the emphasis should always be toward being healthy. I don't think glorifying in SSBBW etc. helps.

in terms of longevity it's actually more healthy to be overweight.

being slim or obese shortens life, being of correct BMI gives a decent length of life, being overwieght (and not obese) gives the best outcome.

I'd be interested to see where this info came from. Do you have a link? "

just google it, it's true. you can't post a lot of proper links on here coz they aren't wikipedia or youtube so you get a forum ban. you will easily find the proper research papers.

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By *urvymamaWoman over a year ago

Doncaster

"I don't think I've contributed to glorifying it

If we pretend it's not there it will go away?

That's kind of the thing I think needs challenging.

This debate won't make fuck all difference to anything. It's just idle chat on a sex forum."

So if it won't make fuck all difference why kick up such a stink about it? As that therefore challenging it doesn't work

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By *yldstyleWoman over a year ago

A world of my own

I have no illusions about what size I am.. I don't need any label other than my name to define me.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I've heard the theory that fasting is good for the body but not being overweight. Interested to know more - especially while there's still mince pies available.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No one posting here has any illusions as to whether or not their body might function more efficiently if they carried no more weight on their joints than was medically acceptable.

Some earlier posts suggest they do.

No, earlier posts suggested just because they are overweight it doesn't mean they are completely unhealthy. Not that if they lost weight their body wouldn't function more efficiently.

Didn't we already have the semantics debate?!

Let's skip the bollocks.

Being fat is unhealthy. Being obese is really unhealthy. This is regardless of I can swim a mile blah blah blah.

We all know what fat looks like.

I made the point that I don't think fat should be aspirational.

I knew full well some would take it personally and made the relevant disclaimer. They did and cue various excuses and defensiveness.

Whatever way you want to put it, all this is as it is.

I don't think fat people should be shamed, but I do think the emphasis should always be toward being healthy. I don't think glorifying in SSBBW etc. helps."

I think you're mistaking "excuses and defensiveness" for things that prove your little theories wrong.

Thanks though, guys, or should I call you doctors!?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't think I've contributed to glorifying it

If we pretend it's not there it will go away?

That's kind of the thing I think needs challenging.

This debate won't make fuck all difference to anything. It's just idle chat on a sex forum.

So if it won't make fuck all difference why kick up such a stink about it? As that therefore challenging it doesn't work"

It's a forum. Be a bit shit if everyone ignored topics...

Or do you really mean only people with _iews you agree with should post?

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By *eliWoman over a year ago

"I don't think fat people should be shamed, but I do think the emphasis should always be toward being healthy. I don't think glorifying in SSBBW etc. helps.

This isn't a semantics debate. You seem to proclaim that when ever someone is challenging you - it's either butthurt or semantics.

Let's cut the utter crap. Yeah, we get it. Fat is unhealthy as is obese. Being obese doesn't make you unable to do any physical exercise which is what previous posters were saying.

What would really challenge it is if you let these threads naturally run their course without bumping it and then bemoaning those who reply.

If you see my earlier posts, you'll see I actually addressed and answered the OP. I guess it wasn't an interesting enough post for you to jump on though.

And semantics, meh. I have a different understanding of the word fetish - as you might be aware language can be subjective and the meaning one person applies to a word can make the difference in how it is addressed.

It doesn't make me uncomfortable - nice try at presumption though. I have debated the discussion. But as said earlier, selective reading on your part.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No one posting here has any illusions as to whether or not their body might function more efficiently if they carried no more weight on their joints than was medically acceptable.

Some earlier posts suggest they do.

No, earlier posts suggested just because they are overweight it doesn't mean they are completely unhealthy. Not that if they lost weight their body wouldn't function more efficiently.

Didn't we already have the semantics debate?!

Let's skip the bollocks.

Being fat is unhealthy. Being obese is really unhealthy. This is regardless of I can swim a mile blah blah blah.

We all know what fat looks like.

I made the point that I don't think fat should be aspirational.

I knew full well some would take it personally and made the relevant disclaimer. They did and cue various excuses and defensiveness.

Whatever way you want to put it, all this is as it is.

I don't think fat people should be shamed, but I do think the emphasis should always be toward being healthy. I don't think glorifying in SSBBW etc. helps.

I think you're mistaking "excuses and defensiveness" for things that prove your little theories wrong.

Thanks though, guys, or should I call you doctors!? "

Only if I can call you a famous African river.

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By *urvymamaWoman over a year ago

Doncaster

"I don't think I've contributed to glorifying it

If we pretend it's not there it will go away?

That's kind of the thing I think needs challenging.

This debate won't make fuck all difference to anything. It's just idle chat on a sex forum.

So if it won't make fuck all difference why kick up such a stink about it? As that therefore challenging it doesn't work

It's a forum. Be a bit shit if everyone ignored topics...

Or do you really mean only people with _iews you agree with should post? "

Not at all you're entitled to you opinion but there are certain poster that seem to seek out certain threads just to stir shit, the trouble Then is it seems less like challenging opposing _iewpoints in a valued way and more of a personal vendetta

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm a big girl, size 16. Wouldn't class myself as BBW. What's beautiful? Big is big, beautiful to some may not be to others.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No one posting here has any illusions as to whether or not their body might function more efficiently if they carried no more weight on their joints than was medically acceptable.

Some earlier posts suggest they do.

No, earlier posts suggested just because they are overweight it doesn't mean they are completely unhealthy. Not that if they lost weight their body wouldn't function more efficiently.

Didn't we already have the semantics debate?!

Let's skip the bollocks.

Being fat is unhealthy. Being obese is really unhealthy. This is regardless of I can swim a mile blah blah blah.

We all know what fat looks like.

I made the point that I don't think fat should be aspirational.

I knew full well some would take it personally and made the relevant disclaimer. They did and cue various excuses and defensiveness.

Whatever way you want to put it, all this is as it is.

I don't think fat people should be shamed, but I do think the emphasis should always be toward being healthy. I don't think glorifying in SSBBW etc. helps.

in terms of longevity it's actually more healthy to be overweight.

being slim or obese shortens life, being of correct BMI gives a decent length of life, being overwieght (and not obese) gives the best outcome.

I'd be interested to see where this info came from. Do you have a link?

just google it, it's true. you can't post a lot of proper links on here coz they aren't wikipedia or youtube so you get a forum ban. you will easily find the proper research papers."

Found it, thanks.

People with a BMI at the upper end of the WHO “normal” level (22.5 to 24.9) have the lowest death rates.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't think I've contributed to glorifying it

If we pretend it's not there it will go away?

That's kind of the thing I think needs challenging.

This debate won't make fuck all difference to anything. It's just idle chat on a sex forum.

So if it won't make fuck all difference why kick up such a stink about it? As that therefore challenging it doesn't work

It's a forum. Be a bit shit if everyone ignored topics...

Or do you really mean only people with _iews you agree with should post?

Funny because the last time I remember debating size on here it was a post about thin women that nonetheless was mostly full of similar posts to above by fat people.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No one posting here has any illusions as to whether or not their body might function more efficiently if they carried no more weight on their joints than was medically acceptable.

Some earlier posts suggest they do.

No, earlier posts suggested just because they are overweight it doesn't mean they are completely unhealthy. Not that if they lost weight their body wouldn't function more efficiently.

Didn't we already have the semantics debate?!

Let's skip the bollocks.

Being fat is unhealthy. Being obese is really unhealthy. This is regardless of I can swim a mile blah blah blah.

We all know what fat looks like.

I made the point that I don't think fat should be aspirational.

I knew full well some would take it personally and made the relevant disclaimer. They did and cue various excuses and defensiveness.

Whatever way you want to put it, all this is as it is.

I don't think fat people should be shamed, but I do think the emphasis should always be toward being healthy. I don't think glorifying in SSBBW etc. helps.

in terms of longevity it's actually more healthy to be overweight.

being slim or obese shortens life, being of correct BMI gives a decent length of life, being overwieght (and not obese) gives the best outcome.

I'd be interested to see where this info came from. Do you have a link?

just google it, it's true. you can't post a lot of proper links on here coz they aren't wikipedia or youtube so you get a forum ban. you will easily find the proper research papers.

Found it, thanks.

People with a BMI at the upper end of the WHO “normal” level (22.5 to 24.9) have the lowest death rates."

But that's normal. Not fat or obese

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Not at all you're entitled to you opinion but there are certain poster that seem to seek out certain threads just to stir shit, the trouble Then is it seems less like challenging opposing _iewpoints in a valued way and more of a personal vendetta "

and not really contributing anything worthwhile in the long run, just seems sad like nothing better to do

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No one posting here has any illusions as to whether or not their body might function more efficiently if they carried no more weight on their joints than was medically acceptable.

Some earlier posts suggest they do.

No, earlier posts suggested just because they are overweight it doesn't mean they are completely unhealthy. Not that if they lost weight their body wouldn't function more efficiently.

Didn't we already have the semantics debate?!

Let's skip the bollocks.

Being fat is unhealthy. Being obese is really unhealthy. This is regardless of I can swim a mile blah blah blah.

We all know what fat looks like.

I made the point that I don't think fat should be aspirational.

I knew full well some would take it personally and made the relevant disclaimer. They did and cue various excuses and defensiveness.

Whatever way you want to put it, all this is as it is.

I don't think fat people should be shamed, but I do think the emphasis should always be toward being healthy. I don't think glorifying in SSBBW etc. helps.

I think you're mistaking "excuses and defensiveness" for things that prove your little theories wrong.

Thanks though, guys, or should I call you doctors!?

Only if I can call you a famous African river."

Oh you mean that river that translates as 'Amazing'. That's super nice of you...

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By *urvymamaWoman over a year ago

Doncaster

"I've heard the theory that fasting is good for the body but not being overweight. Interested to know more - especially while there's still mince pies available."

Fasting will eventually work over a prolonged period of time as your body starves itself, but will your bodies going into its initial starvation mode it stores more fat than it burns, as a survival method to prolong life. Fasting is actually a really stupid unhealthy way of loosing weight is also why you should skip meals especially breakfast as that kicks starts the metabolism for the day

If loosing 15st with slimming world as taught me anything it's to eat lots of the right foods to keep your metabolism running at maximum speed for calorie burning. I eat way more now than I ever did when I was larger

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

As I said before

All just labels. And labels are a pain in the arse.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No one posting here has any illusions as to whether or not their body might function more efficiently if they carried no more weight on their joints than was medically acceptable.

Some earlier posts suggest they do.

No, earlier posts suggested just because they are overweight it doesn't mean they are completely unhealthy. Not that if they lost weight their body wouldn't function more efficiently.

Didn't we already have the semantics debate?!

Let's skip the bollocks.

Being fat is unhealthy. Being obese is really unhealthy. This is regardless of I can swim a mile blah blah blah.

We all know what fat looks like.

I made the point that I don't think fat should be aspirational.

I knew full well some would take it personally and made the relevant disclaimer. They did and cue various excuses and defensiveness.

Whatever way you want to put it, all this is as it is.

I don't think fat people should be shamed, but I do think the emphasis should always be toward being healthy. I don't think glorifying in SSBBW etc. helps.

I think you're mistaking "excuses and defensiveness" for things that prove your little theories wrong.

Thanks though, guys, or should I call you doctors!?

Only if I can call you a famous African river.

Oh you mean that river that translates as 'Amazing'. That's super nice of you... "

I meant de Nile - but we can stick with yours.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No one posting here has any illusions as to whether or not their body might function more efficiently if they carried no more weight on their joints than was medically acceptable.

Some earlier posts suggest they do.

No, earlier posts suggested just because they are overweight it doesn't mean they are completely unhealthy. Not that if they lost weight their body wouldn't function more efficiently.

Didn't we already have the semantics debate?!

Let's skip the bollocks.

Being fat is unhealthy. Being obese is really unhealthy. This is regardless of I can swim a mile blah blah blah.

We all know what fat looks like.

I made the point that I don't think fat should be aspirational.

I knew full well some would take it personally and made the relevant disclaimer. They did and cue various excuses and defensiveness.

Whatever way you want to put it, all this is as it is.

I don't think fat people should be shamed, but I do think the emphasis should always be toward being healthy. I don't think glorifying in SSBBW etc. helps.

in terms of longevity it's actually more healthy to be overweight.

being slim or obese shortens life, being of correct BMI gives a decent length of life, being overwieght (and not obese) gives the best outcome.

I'd be interested to see where this info came from. Do you have a link?

just google it, it's true. you can't post a lot of proper links on here coz they aren't wikipedia or youtube so you get a forum ban. you will easily find the proper research papers.

Found it, thanks.

People with a BMI at the upper end of the WHO “normal” level (22.5 to 24.9) have the lowest death rates."

good. seems it's within 'normal' weight and not actually overweight anyway.

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By *eliWoman over a year ago

So OP. Labels are subjective, people will bemoan whatever you call yourself as you should be racked with guilt due to your size.

Do what the fuck you want and fuck who you want without listening to those who get fucked off that you're not lamenting your size constantly.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

But not all labels are subjective

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By *eliWoman over a year ago

Yeah a cock is a cock regardless of what angle it's approached from.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So is a cunt

Seems we agree on some semantics.

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By *eliWoman over a year ago

Depends on if it's the medical definition or the widely accepted definition really.

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