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By *litterbabe OP Woman
over a year ago
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I had no idea import duty was such a high percentage, I have just paid each DHL £4.83 on a $30 dress.
That seems quite high and on low cost item.
I bet lots of you have been stung with much bigger bills. |
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over a year ago
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Haha yeah right. I get the letter and then ignore it. They have tried billing me but doesn't work. For some reason or another they give me my item first and then try to charge me  |
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"I had no idea import duty was such a high percentage, I have just paid each DHL £4.83 on a $30 dress.
That seems quite high and on low cost item.
I bet lots of you have been stung with much bigger bills."
It's VAT at 20%.
$30 = £23 . VAT at 20% = £4.60
(Exact figure depends on exchange rate they used) |
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"I didn't realise it was that. It just said import duty and I didn't know what that meant exactly. It came by text though and I had to pay it before they would deliver.
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When using a UK supplier it is already in the price and the supplier gives the VAT to directly HMRC.
So you don't notice it on UK stuff.
For suppliers outside of the EU, the delivery company collects it and sends it on to HMRC.
I've heard of people getting stung with quite high bills when they've bought perfume etc from overseas. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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i don't buy from america because of this.
asian countries there seems to be no VAT to pay on anything.
if the americans charged tax themselves we wouldn't have to pay anything to them either. |
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"i don't buy from america because of this.
asian countries there seems to be no VAT to pay on anything.
if the americans charged tax themselves we wouldn't have to pay anything to them either."
It's sometimes luck. On low value items the courier doesn't bother collecting it.
American thing is more complicated than that, they have different sales taxes, state and federal.
It's just worth remembering there will be tax to pay on most non-eu imports.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"i don't buy from america because of this.
asian countries there seems to be no VAT to pay on anything.
if the americans charged tax themselves we wouldn't have to pay anything to them either.
It's sometimes luck. On low value items the courier doesn't bother collecting it.
American thing is more complicated than that, they have different sales taxes, state and federal.
It's just worth remembering there will be tax to pay on most non-eu imports.
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yeah i know about the state taxes, they can choose to use them but they don't so we have to pay UK taxes instead. i want to pay the price i see and nothing more really. although saying that i've noticed if they do add taxes to items it seems to bump shipment costs a lot for some reason, don't know why that is. |
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"i don't buy from america because of this.
asian countries there seems to be no VAT to pay on anything.
if the americans charged tax themselves we wouldn't have to pay anything to them either.
It's sometimes luck. On low value items the courier doesn't bother collecting it.
American thing is more complicated than that, they have different sales taxes, state and federal.
It's just worth remembering there will be tax to pay on most non-eu imports.
yeah i know about the state taxes, they can choose to use them but they don't so we have to pay UK taxes instead. i want to pay the price i see and nothing more really. although saying that i've noticed if they do add taxes to items it seems to bump shipment costs a lot for some reason, don't know why that is."
Remember in the USA they list everything without tax. If you go for a burger, it's listed at $5, when you pay at the til it's $5.86 inc tax.
Also, there is no way for 'Randy Yank Leatherwear .com' to add 20% vat on to your purchase and send it to HMRC. That's why the delivery companies collect it on entry to the country. |
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By *ortunesCouple
over a year ago
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Thats why some things 'appear' to be a bargain from the USA.
We get told at work that the same item is much cheaper from America, but they dont allow for the cost of postage and then the tax to be paid as well. Difficult to explian to people sometimes. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Haha yeah right. I get the letter and then ignore it. They have tried billing me but doesn't work. For some reason or another they give me my item first and then try to charge me "
I've had too... didn't quite understand the logic. Same with 'the seller hasn't paid all the postage charges' ha! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"i don't buy from america because of this.
asian countries there seems to be no VAT to pay on anything.
if the americans charged tax themselves we wouldn't have to pay anything to them either.
It's sometimes luck. On low value items the courier doesn't bother collecting it.
American thing is more complicated than that, they have different sales taxes, state and federal.
It's just worth remembering there will be tax to pay on most non-eu imports.
yeah i know about the state taxes, they can choose to use them but they don't so we have to pay UK taxes instead. i want to pay the price i see and nothing more really. although saying that i've noticed if they do add taxes to items it seems to bump shipment costs a lot for some reason, don't know why that is.
Remember in the USA they list everything without tax. If you go for a burger, it's listed at $5, when you pay at the til it's $5.86 inc tax.
Also, there is no way for 'Randy Yank Leatherwear .com' to add 20% vat on to your purchase and send it to HMRC. That's why the delivery companies collect it on entry to the country."
didn't know that, that they don't add tax until you get to the till. may be confusing if you're travelling around the country. thanks. |
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By *.1079Man
over a year ago
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Every thing you buy from outside the UK you have paid taxes on them, and if you think you haven't been charged it, then it would have already been added in to the iterms price. Companies cannot trade otherwise |
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"Thats why some things 'appear' to be a bargain from the USA.
We get told at work that the same item is much cheaper from America, but they dont allow for the cost of postage and then the tax to be paid as well. Difficult to explian to people sometimes."
It can work both ways though. I sell parts to the USA. I don't have to add VAT or any duty. The customer in the USA doesn't have to pay any import taxes. So that works well.
I also have a crazy situation, where I sell parts to Australia. They also don't pay import duty or tax from the UK, so I can knock off the VAT from their purchase. Shipping this part to Australia is less than the VAT was. So I can sell a part to a person in Australia for cheaper overall than a customer in the UK. |
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"Every thing you buy from outside the UK you have paid taxes on them, and if you think you haven't been charged it, then it would have already been added in to the iterms price. Companies cannot trade otherwise"
That's not correct. Depends where it comes from. EU or outside. |
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"Sorry Bunandbuck..
But I am about to buy some art work from USA, from an individual...
Will that be a similar situation?"
Yes, you'll get charged import taxes regardless of where it comes from.
I get private individuals in the USA who send me specialist items to repair. Whatever value they put on the shipping label, the delivery company uses that to determine the tax on it.
There will be VAT and the duty will depend on the 'commodity code' . Every item you can sell has a commodity code. All the different codes have different % import duty. Can be 5% upwards.
There are internet tools to help do it.
Some unscrupulous people write a low value on the item they are shipping, to minimise these taxes . But that is naughty, obviously... If someone did that, they'd also need to be a bit careful, as the shipping company would only have it insured up to the declared value.
My knowledge is limited to things I've bought and sold, although I do it a lot, but on industrial type stuff. So double check on an import website. |
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"Wow! Just checked and there is no export duty re art from USA to UK and no import duty from UK side just 5% VAT"
Cool! Make sure, they label it clearly as 'Art' and add the commodity code too. DHL etc are good at it because it gets entered onto their system electronically. US post office just puts a sticker on. You don't want to get into a debate with Royal mail about wrong charges. |
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DHL collects the import duty but they then pass it on to the government. Most stuff is liable for duty when imported from outside the EU. The rate of tax is variable depending on what you are importing and vat is payable on top of the tax.
Generally the courier will not deliver the goods until the fees due have been paid. If you don't pay it will eventually be returned to the shipper.
The amount of tax is calculated based on an "invoice" which the sender has to provide with the parcel. When we ship goods overseas we have to provide one too. If the stated value is low then the amount of tax is equally low, however if anything happens to the shipment in transit it us only covered up to the stated amount. E.g you send something worth 5 grand but say its only worth 50 quid. If they lose the parcel you only get compensated 50 quid.
(I used to work for DHL) |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I had no idea import duty was such a high percentage, I have just paid each DHL £4.83 on a $30 dress.
That seems quite high and on low cost item.
I bet lots of you have been stung with much bigger bills."
I paid £18 on a bottle of purfume the fuckin purfume was only £30!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"i don't buy from america because of this.
asian countries there seems to be no VAT to pay on anything.
if the americans charged tax themselves we wouldn't have to pay anything to them either."
Many suppliers in the far east misdeclare the value on the packages, or send them as 'samples' or 'gifts'. If you do not then declare the import taxes you owe yourself to HMRC, you are technically committing fraud.
In America there are much higher penalties for the senders if they do this. It's illegal there, just as it is here. |
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"Wow! Just checked and there is no export duty re art from USA to UK and no import duty from UK side just 5% VAT
Cool! Make sure, they label it clearly as 'Art' and add the commodity code too. DHL etc are good at it because it gets entered onto their system electronically. US post office just puts a sticker on. You don't want to get into a debate with Royal mail about wrong charges."
Great stuff..appreciated thank you! |
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"i don't buy from america because of this.
asian countries there seems to be no VAT to pay on anything.
if the americans charged tax themselves we wouldn't have to pay anything to them either.
Many suppliers in the far east misdeclare the value on the packages, or send them as 'samples' or 'gifts'. If you do not then declare the import taxes you owe yourself to HMRC, you are technically committing fraud.
In America there are much higher penalties for the senders if they do this. It's illegal there, just as it is here."
Correct.
US has an import duty free allowance of $800 though. So most personal purchases would pass through without charge. |
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By *litterbabe OP Woman
over a year ago
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Tbe dress that I got was labelled as $30 on the package, and sent from Hong Kong. I am surprised I have to pay the duty to DHL.
I wonder if a company I bought it from declared it,or was it just stopped at customs. |
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"Tbe dress that I got was labelled as $30 on the package, and sent from Hong Kong. I am surprised I have to pay the duty to DHL.
I wonder if a company I bought it from declared it,or was it just stopped at customs."
You said it yourself - it was labelled. DHL collect import duties on every package that qualifies unless the recipient or sender have an alternative provision with HMRC. |
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"Tbe dress that I got was labelled as $30 on the package, and sent from Hong Kong. I am surprised I have to pay the duty to DHL.
I wonder if a company I bought it from declared it,or was it just stopped at customs."
Every courier: DHL, UPS, TNT or Royal Mail all do exactly the same thing. It has to have a value on a customs sticker on the box. They then charge you the correct amount and pass it on to HMRC.
If you post something to outside of the EU the post office give you the same sticker to put on your box, so the receiver pays the correct amount at their end. |
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"Tbe dress that I got was labelled as $30 on the package, and sent from Hong Kong. I am surprised I have to pay the duty to DHL.
I wonder if a company I bought it from declared it,or was it just stopped at customs."
Everything that is imported is stopped at customs and not released until the import duty is paid. DHL are just following the rules set by the government and every courier company has to do the same.
Just think of it as as going through the red or green channel when you have traveled abroad and come back to the UK. |
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