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I have a morbid fascination with all things crimey.  | |||
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"Who else is fascinated by serial killers? Love watching autobiographies on you tube about serial killers.. Nothing about serial killers I don't know! "Every now and again I have dark thoughts and sometimes think there may be one lurking deep inside me ready to come out if the wrong trigger was flicked....normally after spending too much time on the forum!  | |||
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"Definitely me, the physiology intrigues me." +1. I like to see how they got caught, just so I don't make the same mistakes  | |||
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I have a morbid fascination with all things crimey. "Loved to have worked In a morgue but wasn't to be I have a healthy fascination with all things morbid | |||
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"I have always worked in a predominantly matriarchal workplace and the obsession with the psychology behind serial killers has always seemed more fascinating to the female sex, the thread so far reflects this!"  | |||
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"I have always worked in a predominantly matriarchal workplace and the obsession with the psychology behind serial killers has always seemed more fascinating to the female sex, the thread so far reflects this!" i read a book years ago that tried to explain it...suggested that nowadays we have no 'bogeyman'. no fairytale villains...and serial killers fill that void...they are something that we have no control over,we can be as careful of our own safety as we like in our everyday lives, but cannot predict or protect from someone like that..makes them almost mythical..seemed a sound theory to me.. | |||
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"Read lots of books, tv programmes are great for learning to be a serial killer and not getting caught, a friend told me that of course "they certainly are! i learnt my preferred method of murder when i was about 15 from an agatha chrisite..victim doesnt die till about a week after you've put the plan in motion...still never come across a better idea...and it's stil untraceable! | |||
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"Read lots of books, tv programmes are great for learning to be a serial killer and not getting caught, a friend told me that of course
they certainly are! i learnt my preferred method of murder when i was about 15 from an agatha chrisite..victim doesnt die till about a week after you've put the plan in motion...still never come across a better idea...and it's stil untraceable!
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"Read lots of books, tv programmes are great for learning to be a serial killer and not getting caught, a friend told me that of course
they certainly are! i learnt my preferred method of murder when i was about 15 from an agatha chrisite..victim doesnt die till about a week after you've put the plan in motion...still never come across a better idea...and it's stil untraceable!
I'll buy my own drink lol "not your drink you'd need to be worrying about!! | |||
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"John Wayne Gacy got asked off the police why he slaughtered 33 people,he replied "it turned me on"...so my point is,the fraze "whatever turnes you on" is not always acceptable" i've got a handbag i got in a garage sale in his street some years ago...they had to alter all the house numbers to prevent creepy weirdos ogling the house...like i did! | |||
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"Read lots of books, tv programmes are great for learning to be a serial killer and not getting caught, a friend told me that of course
they certainly are! i learnt my preferred method of murder when i was about 15 from an agatha chrisite..victim doesnt die till about a week after you've put the plan in motion...still never come across a better idea...and it's stil untraceable!
I'll buy my own drink lol
not your drink you'd need to be worrying about!!"Pm me the method, if tried and tested I'll have a go | |||
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"Who else is fascinated by serial killers? Love watching autobiographies on you tube about serial killers.. Nothing about serial killers I don't know! "Same here
Psychology of it all fascinates me, also looking at the anatomy and graphology angles.
I particularly like reading the books. And am a fan of CBS Reality.
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"John Wayne Gacy got asked off the police why he slaughtered 33 people,he replied "it turned me on"...so my point is,the fraze "whatever turnes you on" is not always acceptable i've got a handbag i got in a garage sale in his street some years ago...they had to alter all the house numbers to prevent creepy weirdos ogling the house...like i did!" Really! | |||
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"John Wayne Gacy got asked off the police why he slaughtered 33 people,he replied "it turned me on"...so my point is,the fraze "whatever turnes you on" is not always acceptable i've got a handbag i got in a garage sale in his street some years ago...they had to alter all the house numbers to prevent creepy weirdos ogling the house...like i did! Really!" yes,it's a lovely old 50's one! no bloodstains or anything... | |||
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"I have read a lot of books on serial killers the most fascinating one of all time is jack the ripper Or the Hudson bay killer and of course zodiac three of them never been caught " Those who get caught are amatures | |||
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"Forensic files complete, now on medical detectives "I'm watching Critical Evidence narrated by Robbie Coltrane "The Body In The Suitcase" | |||
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"Forensic files complete, now on medical detectives
I'm watching Critical Evidence narrated by Robbie Coltrane "The Body In The Suitcase""Must make a note of that, thanks | |||
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"There is a three parter starting tomorrow night 10 Rillington Pl about a serial killer Parts of it was filmed in Paisley " If the police ever check my sky box I'm goin down | |||
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"My missus used to have a heavy interest in serial killers, true crime, things like that. She ended up temping - office work - for a charity that helped people bereaved by murder and manslaughter. There were 2 members of staff and my woman. One of the staff was out and about networking, setting things up while the other answered the phone. People who's loved ones had been killed would call, in various states of collapse, pain and fury. It really wasn't very nice. "no,i imagine not...i wouldn't have the strength to be around such pain...i'm very aware that reading sensationalised versions of hideous crimes is tasteless and a bit grim, but to me, the distance,whether time or physical, makes me able to con myself that its almost fiction..as well as a genuine curiosity as to where it comes from.. | |||
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"I have read a lot of books on serial killers the most fascinating one of all time is jack the ripper Or the Hudson bay killer and of course zodiac three of them never been caught " I though Zodiac was Leigh Allen?? | |||
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"Always hada facination with jack the ripper" who do you think was jack the ripper | |||
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"My missus used to have a heavy interest in serial killers, true crime, things like that. She ended up temping - office work - for a charity that helped people bereaved by murder and manslaughter. There were 2 members of staff and my woman. One of the staff was out and about networking, setting things up while the other answered the phone. People who's loved ones had been killed would call, in various states of collapse, pain and fury. It really wasn't very nice.
no,i imagine not...i wouldn't have the strength to be around such pain...i'm very aware that reading sensationalised versions of hideous crimes is tasteless and a bit grim, but to me, the distance,whether time or physical, makes me able to con myself that its almost fiction..as well as a genuine curiosity as to where it comes from.."Yeah, and the woman who worked the phone went off sick (with stress and a sick grandson) and my other half bravely sat on the phone for 5 months while they fucked about thinking of a replacement. And my woman would come home having heard the most dreadful things, which she couldn't offload to me because of confidentiality. She actually said to me once that felt guilty because she *hadn't* suffered in the same way as the people she was speaking to on the phone line. Had to bust her out of there. Careful what you wish for. | |||
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"Always hada facination with jack the ripper who do you think was jack the ripper" Doubt if we will ever know. Me personally thinks it was Cutbush? | |||
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"My missus used to have a heavy interest in serial killers, true crime, things like that. She ended up temping - office work - for a charity that helped people bereaved by murder and manslaughter. There were 2 members of staff and my woman. One of the staff was out and about networking, setting things up while the other answered the phone. People who's loved ones had been killed would call, in various states of collapse, pain and fury. It really wasn't very nice. "I cannot even start to imagine how emotionally draining that must have been | |||
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"My missus used to have a heavy interest in serial killers, true crime, things like that. She ended up temping - office work - for a charity that helped people bereaved by murder and manslaughter. There were 2 members of staff and my woman. One of the staff was out and about networking, setting things up while the other answered the phone. People who's loved ones had been killed would call, in various states of collapse, pain and fury. It really wasn't very nice.
no,i imagine not...i wouldn't have the strength to be around such pain...i'm very aware that reading sensationalised versions of hideous crimes is tasteless and a bit grim, but to me, the distance,whether time or physical, makes me able to con myself that its almost fiction..as well as a genuine curiosity as to where it comes from..
Yeah, and the woman who worked the phone went off sick (with stress and a sick grandson) and my other half bravely sat on the phone for 5 months while they fucked about thinking of a replacement.
And my woman would come home having heard the most dreadful things, which she couldn't offload to me because of confidentiality.
She actually said to me once that felt guilty because she *hadn't* suffered in the same way as the people she was speaking to on the phone line.
Had to bust her out of there.
Careful what you wish for. "I'm a nurse I see and hear terrible things every day in my job.  | |||
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"Always hada facination with jack the ripper who do you think was jack the ripper Doubt if we will ever know. Me personally thinks it was Cutbush? " i tthink jack the ripper didn'tkill as much as they said he did Especially the two killed on the same night | |||
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"Always hada facination with jack the ripper who do you think was jack the ripper Doubt if we will ever know. Me personally thinks it was Cutbush? " Cutbush was just mad, JTR was calculated | |||
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"My missus used to have a heavy interest in serial killers, true crime, things like that. She ended up temping - office work - for a charity that helped people bereaved by murder and manslaughter. There were 2 members of staff and my woman. One of the staff was out and about networking, setting things up while the other answered the phone. People who's loved ones had been killed would call, in various states of collapse, pain and fury. It really wasn't very nice.
no,i imagine not...i wouldn't have the strength to be around such pain...i'm very aware that reading sensationalised versions of hideous crimes is tasteless and a bit grim, but to me, the distance,whether time or physical, makes me able to con myself that its almost fiction..as well as a genuine curiosity as to where it comes from..
Yeah, and the woman who worked the phone went off sick (with stress and a sick grandson) and my other half bravely sat on the phone for 5 months while they fucked about thinking of a replacement.
And my woman would come home having heard the most dreadful things, which she couldn't offload to me because of confidentiality.
She actually said to me once that felt guilty because she *hadn't* suffered in the same way as the people she was speaking to on the phone line.
Had to bust her out of there.
Careful what you wish for. "i certainly wouldn't wish that for myself..prurient curiosity is not a particularly nice trait,i know that. but i do wonder if the theory i mentioned earlier, that serial killers fill the void of a fairytale bogeyman may hold water..'it's human nature to be fascninated by something we can't understand.. | |||
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"Always hada facination with jack the ripper who do you think was jack the ripper Doubt if we will ever know. Me personally thinks it was Cutbush? Cutbush was just mad, JTR was calculated" What about the Polish man? | |||
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"i'm very aware that reading sensationalised versions of hideous crimes is tasteless and a bit grim..." I don't think that it is tasteless or grim. Some people will be curious and want to understand the mind of such murderers and others won't. It is thanks to that curiosity, the curious mind of a few in my opinion that the crime investigation field has grown and the technology has developed. | |||
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"i'm very aware that reading sensationalised versions of hideous crimes is tasteless and a bit grim... I don't think that it is tasteless or grim. Some people will be curious and want to understand the mind of such murderers and others won't. It is thanks to that curiosity, the curious mind of a few in my opinion that the crime investigation field has grown and the technology has developed. " | |||
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"i'm very aware that reading sensationalised versions of hideous crimes is tasteless and a bit grim... I don't think that it is tasteless or grim. Some people will be curious and want to understand the mind of such murderers and others won't. kessler the fbi profiler Is a guy who understands the minds of these killers and does a lot to help police track down guys like them he gets I to their minds It is thanks to that curiosity, the curious mind of a few in my opinion that the crime investigation field has grown and the technology has developed. " | |||
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"Always hada facination with jack the ripper who do you think was jack the ripper Doubt if we will ever know. Me personally thinks it was Cutbush? Cutbush was just mad, JTR was calculated What about the Polish man? " aaron kosminski...yes,i think so... the simplest,most likely, most unexciting explanantion is probably the most likely.. | |||
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"Always hada facination with jack the ripper who do you think was jack the ripper Doubt if we will ever know. Me personally thinks it was Cutbush? Cutbush was just mad, JTR was calculated What about the Polish man? " Another sweeney Todd who would have been handy with his blade, yep kominsky for me | |||
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"i'm very aware that reading sensationalised versions of hideous crimes is tasteless and a bit grim... I don't think that it is tasteless or grim. Some people will be curious and want to understand the mind of such murderers and others won't. It is thanks to that curiosity, the curious mind of a few in my opinion that the crime investigation field has grown and the technology has developed. " Jules maigret | |||
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"i'm very aware that reading sensationalised versions of hideous crimes is tasteless and a bit grim... I don't think that it is tasteless or grim. Some people will be curious and want to understand the mind of such murderers and others won't. It is thanks to that curiosity, the curious mind of a few in my opinion that the crime investigation field has grown and the technology has developed. Jules maigret "Lol indeed | |||
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"Always hada facination with jack the ripper who do you think was jack the ripper Doubt if we will ever know. Me personally thinks it was Cutbush? Cutbush was just mad, JTR was calculated What about the Polish man? Another sweeney Todd who would have been handy with his blade, yep kominsky for me "It's either Cutbush or Kominsky Case solved and closed Let's solve who the Zodiac Killer was? | |||
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"Always hada facination with jack the ripper who do you think was jack the ripper Doubt if we will ever know. Me personally thinks it was Cutbush? They say it was a royal surgeon that killed them as it was said prince Edward caught syphilis from a prostitute Cutbush was just mad, JTR was calculated What about the Polish man? Another sweeney Todd who would have been handy with his blade, yep kominsky for me " | |||
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"i'm very aware that reading sensationalised versions of hideous crimes is tasteless and a bit grim... I don't think that it is tasteless or grim. Some people will be curious and want to understand the mind of such murderers and others won't. It is thanks to that curiosity, the curious mind of a few in my opinion that the crime investigation field has grown and the technology has developed. Jules maigret
Lol indeed "Or inspector clouseau on a bad day  | |||
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"Always hada facination with jack the ripper who do you think was jack the ripper Doubt if we will ever know. Me personally thinks it was Cutbush? Cutbush was just mad, JTR was calculated What about the Polish man? Another sweeney Todd who would have been handy with his blade, yep kominsky for me
It's either Cutbush or Kominsky
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Let's solve who the Zodiac Killer was? "Could a long night ahead....... | |||
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"i'm very aware that reading sensationalised versions of hideous crimes is tasteless and a bit grim... I don't think that it is tasteless or grim. Some people will be curious and want to understand the mind of such murderers and others won't. It is thanks to that curiosity, the curious mind of a few in my opinion that the crime investigation field has grown and the technology has developed. Jules maigret
Lol indeed
Or inspector clouseau on a bad day "On a very bad day then | |||
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"i'm very aware that reading sensationalised versions of hideous crimes is tasteless and a bit grim... I don't think that it is tasteless or grim. Some people will be curious and want to understand the mind of such murderers and others won't. It is thanks to that curiosity, the curious mind of a few in my opinion that the crime investigation field has grown and the technology has developed. Jules maigret
Lol indeed
Or inspector clouseau on a bad day
On a very bad day then "He was a poor frenchie | |||
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"Always hada facination with jack the ripper who do you think was jack the ripper Doubt if we will ever know. Me personally thinks it was Cutbush? Cutbush was just mad, JTR was calculated What about the Polish man? Another sweeney Todd who would have been handy with his blade, yep kominsky for me
It's either Cutbush or Kominsky
Case solved and closed
Let's solve who the Zodiac Killer was? "I thought they were fairly sure it was Leigh Allen for the zodiac killer??? | |||
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"Always hada facination with jack the ripper who do you think was jack the ripper Doubt if we will ever know. Me personally thinks it was Cutbush? There was quite a few suspects his friend cheney was a suspect too Also another name cropped up And he looked very similar to a police artist drawing his name was myers Cutbush was just mad, JTR was calculated What about the Polish man? Another sweeney Todd who would have been handy with his blade, yep kominsky for me
It's either Cutbush or Kominsky
Case solved and closed
Let's solve who the Zodiac Killer was?
I thought they were fairly sure it was Leigh Allen for the zodiac killer???" | |||
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"Always hada facination with jack the ripper who do you think was jack the ripper Doubt if we will ever know. Me personally thinks it was Cutbush? Cutbush was just mad, JTR was calculated What about the Polish man? Another sweeney Todd who would have been handy with his blade, yep kominsky for me
It's either Cutbush or Kominsky
Case solved and closed
Let's solve who the Zodiac Killer was?
I thought they were fairly sure it was Leigh Allen for the zodiac killer???"Another case solved and closed. Do you like watching stuff like what happened to Eliza Lam and Elizabeth Short?.. | |||
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"Always hada facination with jack the ripper who do you think was jack the ripper Doubt if we will ever know. Me personally thinks it was Cutbush? Cutbush was just mad, JTR was calculated What about the Polish man? Another sweeney Todd who would have been handy with his blade, yep kominsky for me
It's either Cutbush or Kominsky
Case solved and closed
Let's solve who the Zodiac Killer was?
I thought they were fairly sure it was Leigh Allen for the zodiac killer???
Another case solved and closed.
Do you like watching stuff like what happened to Eliza Lam and Elizabeth Short?..
"Elisa lam yes, must have missed Liz short? | |||
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"i've always been fascinated by the david berkowitz tale...some entertainingly crazy theories going on there! but even the NYPD freely admit at no point did they ever think he was alone . and have never closed the cases even after berkowitzs conviction..someone's still out there..and on that cheery note im off to bed! sweet dreams all!" they say he was part of a group | |||
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"I was more bothered by this one tbh where the police missed multiple opportunities to link murders and stop a killer. . Between August 2014 and September 2015, Port murdered Gabriel Kovari, 22, from Lewisham, Daniel Whitworth, 21, from Gravesend, Kent, and Jack Taylor, 25, from Dagenham, east London. Their bodies were all found dumped in or near a graveyard within 500m of his home. During sentencing Mr Justice Openshaw referenced the police investigation into the deaths. "It is not for me to say whether the seeming bizarre coincidence of these three gay young men being found dead so close together might have given rise to suspicions that these deaths were not the result of ordinary self-administered drug overdoses," he said. . http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-38102454 " Is this to do with Stephen Port? I can't view the link | |||
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"I was more bothered by this one tbh where the police missed multiple opportunities to link murders and stop a killer. . Between August 2014 and September 2015, Port murdered Gabriel Kovari, 22, from Lewisham, Daniel Whitworth, 21, from Gravesend, Kent, and Jack Taylor, 25, from Dagenham, east London. Their bodies were all found dumped in or near a graveyard within 500m of his home. During sentencing Mr Justice Openshaw referenced the police investigation into the deaths. "It is not for me to say whether the seeming bizarre coincidence of these three gay young men being found dead so close together might have given rise to suspicions that these deaths were not the result of ordinary self-administered drug overdoses," he said. . http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-38102454 Is this to do with Stephen Port? I can't view the link " Yes, sorry, Stephen Port | |||
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"I was more bothered by this one tbh where the police missed multiple opportunities to link murders and stop a killer. . Between August 2014 and September 2015, Port murdered Gabriel Kovari, 22, from Lewisham, Daniel Whitworth, 21, from Gravesend, Kent, and Jack Taylor, 25, from Dagenham, east London. Their bodies were all found dumped in or near a graveyard within 500m of his home. During sentencing Mr Justice Openshaw referenced the police investigation into the deaths. "It is not for me to say whether the seeming bizarre coincidence of these three gay young men being found dead so close together might have given rise to suspicions that these deaths were not the result of ordinary self-administered drug overdoses," he said. . http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-38102454 Is this to do with Stephen Port? I can't view the link " Mr date rape himself... | |||
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"Always hada facination with jack the ripper who do you think was jack the ripper Doubt if we will ever know. Me personally thinks it was Cutbush? Cutbush was just mad, JTR was calculated What about the Polish man? Another sweeney Todd who would have been handy with his blade, yep kominsky for me
It's either Cutbush or Kominsky
Case solved and closed
Let's solve who the Zodiac Killer was?
I thought they were fairly sure it was Leigh Allen for the zodiac killer???
Another case solved and closed.
Do you like watching stuff like what happened to Eliza Lam and Elizabeth Short?..
Elisa lam yes, must have missed Liz short?"Eliza Lam and Liz Short both stayed at the Cecil Hotel. Some spooky things going on in that hotel | |||
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"Always hada facination with jack the ripper who do you think was jack the ripper Doubt if we will ever know. Me personally thinks it was Cutbush? Cutbush was just mad, JTR was calculated What about the Polish man? Another sweeney Todd who would have been handy with his blade, yep kominsky for me
It's either Cutbush or Kominsky
Case solved and closed
Let's solve who the Zodiac Killer was?
I thought they were fairly sure it was Leigh Allen for the zodiac killer???
Another case solved and closed.
Do you like watching stuff like what happened to Eliza Lam and Elizabeth Short?..
Elisa lam yes, must have missed Liz short?"she was called the black dahlia by the press...huge amount of books on the sunject...the wilder the theory the more entertaing! the author james ellroy's mother was very probably murdered by the same person. | |||
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"Always hada facination with jack the ripper who do you think was jack the ripper Doubt if we will ever know. Me personally thinks it was Cutbush? Cutbush was just mad, JTR was calculated What about the Polish man? Another sweeney Todd who would have been handy with his blade, yep kominsky for me
It's either Cutbush or Kominsky
Case solved and closed
Let's solve who the Zodiac Killer was?
I thought they were fairly sure it was Leigh Allen for the zodiac killer???
Another case solved and closed.
Do you like watching stuff like what happened to Eliza Lam and Elizabeth Short?..
Elisa lam yes, must have missed Liz short?
she was called the black dahlia by the press...huge amount of books on the sunject...the wilder the theory the more entertaing! the author james ellroy's mother was very probably murdered by the same person."I've heard of black dahlia, must look that out, could read these all night if I wasn't on fab lol | |||
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"[ ferociously taking notes about the guys to avoid ]" You do have a police uniform though | |||
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"Always hada facination with jack the ripper who do you think was jack the ripper Doubt if we will ever know. Me personally thinks it was Cutbush? Cutbush was just mad, JTR was calculated What about the Polish man? Another sweeney Todd who would have been handy with his blade, yep kominsky for me
It's either Cutbush or Kominsky
Case solved and closed
Let's solve who the Zodiac Killer was?
I thought they were fairly sure it was Leigh Allen for the zodiac killer???
Another case solved and closed.
Do you like watching stuff like what happened to Eliza Lam and Elizabeth Short?..
Elisa lam yes, must have missed Liz short?
she was called the black dahlia by the press...huge amount of books on the sunject...the wilder the theory the more entertaing! the author james ellroy's mother was very probably murdered by the same person.
I've heard of black dahlia, must look that out, could read these all night if I wasn't on fab lol"There are photos of Liz Short at the crime scene. And a film about her with Josh Harnett Worth watching | |||
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"Always hada facination with jack the ripper who do you think was jack the ripper Doubt if we will ever know. Me personally thinks it was Cutbush? Cutbush was just mad, JTR was calculated What about the Polish man? Another sweeney Todd who would have been handy with his blade, yep kominsky for me
It's either Cutbush or Kominsky
Case solved and closed
Let's solve who the Zodiac Killer was?
I thought they were fairly sure it was Leigh Allen for the zodiac killer???
Another case solved and closed.
Do you like watching stuff like what happened to Eliza Lam and Elizabeth Short?..
Elisa lam yes, must have missed Liz short?
she was called the black dahlia by the press...huge amount of books on the sunject...the wilder the theory the more entertaing! the author james ellroy's mother was very probably murdered by the same person.
I've heard of black dahlia, must look that out, could read these all night if I wasn't on fab lol
There are photos of Liz Short at the crime scene.
And a film about her with Josh Harnett
Worth watching "Real photos? Now I'm hooked | |||
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"Always hada facination with jack the ripper who do you think was jack the ripper Doubt if we will ever know. Me personally thinks it was Cutbush? Cutbush was just mad, JTR was calculated What about the Polish man? Another sweeney Todd who would have been handy with his blade, yep kominsky for me
It's either Cutbush or Kominsky
Case solved and closed
Let's solve who the Zodiac Killer was?
I thought they were fairly sure it was Leigh Allen for the zodiac killer???
Another case solved and closed.
Do you like watching stuff like what happened to Eliza Lam and Elizabeth Short?..
Elisa lam yes, must have missed Liz short?
she was called the black dahlia by the press...huge amount of books on the sunject...the wilder the theory the more entertaing! the author james ellroy's mother was very probably murdered by the same person.
I've heard of black dahlia, must look that out, could read these all night if I wasn't on fab lol
There are photos of Liz Short at the crime scene.
And a film about her with Josh Harnett
Worth watching
Real photos? Now I'm hooked "Yes real photos but black and white | |||
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"Always hada facination with jack the ripper who do you think was jack the ripper Doubt if we will ever know. Me personally thinks it was Cutbush? Cutbush was just mad, JTR was calculated What about the Polish man? Another sweeney Todd who would have been handy with his blade, yep kominsky for me
It's either Cutbush or Kominsky
Case solved and closed
Let's solve who the Zodiac Killer was?
I thought they were fairly sure it was Leigh Allen for the zodiac killer???
Another case solved and closed.
Do you like watching stuff like what happened to Eliza Lam and Elizabeth Short?..
Elisa lam yes, must have missed Liz short?
she was called the black dahlia by the press...huge amount of books on the sunject...the wilder the theory the more entertaing! the author james ellroy's mother was very probably murdered by the same person.
I've heard of black dahlia, must look that out, could read these all night if I wasn't on fab lol
There are photos of Liz Short at the crime scene.
And a film about her with Josh Harnett
Worth watching
Real photos? Now I'm hooked
Yes real photos but black and white "Where's the bottom half??? | |||
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"Always hada facination with jack the ripper who do you think was jack the ripper Doubt if we will ever know. Me personally thinks it was Cutbush? Cutbush was just mad, JTR was calculated What about the Polish man? Another sweeney Todd who would have been handy with his blade, yep kominsky for me
It's either Cutbush or Kominsky
Case solved and closed
Let's solve who the Zodiac Killer was?
I thought they were fairly sure it was Leigh Allen for the zodiac killer???
Another case solved and closed.
Do you like watching stuff like what happened to Eliza Lam and Elizabeth Short?..
Elisa lam yes, must have missed Liz short?
she was called the black dahlia by the press...huge amount of books on the sunject...the wilder the theory the more entertaing! the author james ellroy's mother was very probably murdered by the same person.
I've heard of black dahlia, must look that out, could read these all night if I wasn't on fab lol
There are photos of Liz Short at the crime scene.
And a film about her with Josh Harnett
Worth watching
Real photos? Now I'm hooked
Yes real photos but black and white
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"Always hada facination with jack the ripper who do you think was jack the ripper Doubt if we will ever know. Me personally thinks it was Cutbush? Cutbush was just mad, JTR was calculated What about the Polish man? Another sweeney Todd who would have been handy with his blade, yep kominsky for me
It's either Cutbush or Kominsky
Case solved and closed
Let's solve who the Zodiac Killer was?
I thought they were fairly sure it was Leigh Allen for the zodiac killer???
Another case solved and closed.
Do you like watching stuff like what happened to Eliza Lam and Elizabeth Short?..
Elisa lam yes, must have missed Liz short?
she was called the black dahlia by the press...huge amount of books on the sunject...the wilder the theory the more entertaing! the author james ellroy's mother was very probably murdered by the same person.
I've heard of black dahlia, must look that out, could read these all night if I wasn't on fab lol
There are photos of Liz Short at the crime scene.
And a film about her with Josh Harnett
Worth watching
Real photos? Now I'm hooked
Yes real photos but black and white
Where's the bottom half???
It's there on the grass "Ah so it is, must find out more, gruesome | |||
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"Always hada facination with jack the ripper who do you think was jack the ripper Doubt if we will ever know. Me personally thinks it was Cutbush? Cutbush was just mad, JTR was calculated What about the Polish man? Another sweeney Todd who would have been handy with his blade, yep kominsky for me
It's either Cutbush or Kominsky
Case solved and closed
Let's solve who the Zodiac Killer was?
I thought they were fairly sure it was Leigh Allen for the zodiac killer???
Another case solved and closed.
Do you like watching stuff like what happened to Eliza Lam and Elizabeth Short?..
Elisa lam yes, must have missed Liz short?
she was called the black dahlia by the press...huge amount of books on the sunject...the wilder the theory the more entertaing! the author james ellroy's mother was very probably murdered by the same person.
I've heard of black dahlia, must look that out, could read these all night if I wasn't on fab lol
There are photos of Liz Short at the crime scene.
And a film about her with Josh Harnett
Worth watching
Real photos? Now I'm hooked
Yes real photos but black and white
Where's the bottom half???
It's there on the grass
Ah so it is, must find out more, gruesome "Go on you tube and watch the full documentary | |||
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"Always hada facination with jack the ripper who do you think was jack the ripper Doubt if we will ever know. Me personally thinks it was Cutbush? Cutbush was just mad, JTR was calculated What about the Polish man? Another sweeney Todd who would have been handy with his blade, yep kominsky for me
It's either Cutbush or Kominsky
Case solved and closed
Let's solve who the Zodiac Killer was?
I thought they were fairly sure it was Leigh Allen for the zodiac killer???
Another case solved and closed.
Do you like watching stuff like what happened to Eliza Lam and Elizabeth Short?..
Elisa lam yes, must have missed Liz short?
she was called the black dahlia by the press...huge amount of books on the sunject...the wilder the theory the more entertaing! the author james ellroy's mother was very probably murdered by the same person.
I've heard of black dahlia, must look that out, could read these all night if I wasn't on fab lol
There are photos of Liz Short at the crime scene.
And a film about her with Josh Harnett
Worth watching
Real photos? Now I'm hooked
Yes real photos but black and white
Where's the bottom half???
It's there on the grass
Ah so it is, must find out more, gruesome
Go on you tube and watch the full documentary "Want to watch it with me, I scare easily lol | |||
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 . In his job as a nurse he had killed five old ladies and attempted to kill at least one more.
And it was the old story, of all the people I've known in my life, he was kind and sweet and quiet. There was nothing about him that would have suggested he was capable of anything like that. | |||
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"About ten years ago, as social media and internet connections were becoming more common, I decided to look up an old friend who lived in my home town because we had lost touch when I moved away. A quick google search of his name brought up news articles about him. He was a serial killer . In his job as a nurse he had killed five old ladies and attempted to kill at least one more.
And it was the old story, of all the people I've known in my life, he was kind and sweet and quiet. There was nothing about him that would have suggested he was capable of anything like that. "Wow you knew a serial killer, so many questions | |||
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"About ten years ago, as social media and internet connections were becoming more common, I decided to look up an old friend who lived in my home town because we had lost touch when I moved away. A quick google search of his name brought up news articles about him. He was a serial killer . In his job as a nurse he had killed five old ladies and attempted to kill at least one more.
And it was the old story, of all the people I've known in my life, he was kind and sweet and quiet. There was nothing about him that would have suggested he was capable of anything like that.
Wow you knew a serial killer, so many questions "It's a very strange situation. It does tend to shock people when you say you know a serial killer. | |||
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"About ten years ago, as social media and internet connections were becoming more common, I decided to look up an old friend who lived in my home town because we had lost touch when I moved away. A quick google search of his name brought up news articles about him. He was a serial killer . In his job as a nurse he had killed five old ladies and attempted to kill at least one more.
And it was the old story, of all the people I've known in my life, he was kind and sweet and quiet. There was nothing about him that would have suggested he was capable of anything like that.
Wow you knew a serial killer, so many questions
It's a very strange situation. It does tend to shock people when you say you know a serial killer. "I'm intrigued x | |||
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"Always hada facination with jack the ripper who do you think was jack the ripper Doubt if we will ever know. Me personally thinks it was Cutbush? Cutbush was just mad, JTR was calculated What about the Polish man? Another sweeney Todd who would have been handy with his blade, yep kominsky for me
It's either Cutbush or Kominsky
Case solved and closed
Let's solve who the Zodiac Killer was?
I thought they were fairly sure it was Leigh Allen for the zodiac killer???
Another case solved and closed.
Do you like watching stuff like what happened to Eliza Lam and Elizabeth Short?..
Elisa lam yes, must have missed Liz short?
she was called the black dahlia by the press...huge amount of books on the sunject...the wilder the theory the more entertaing! the author james ellroy's mother was very probably murdered by the same person.
I've heard of black dahlia, must look that out, could read these all night if I wasn't on fab lol
There are photos of Liz Short at the crime scene.
And a film about her with Josh Harnett
Worth watching
Real photos? Now I'm hooked
Yes real photos but black and white
Where's the bottom half???
It's there on the grass
Ah so it is, must find out more, gruesome
Go on you tube and watch the full documentary
Want to watch it with me, I scare easily lol "Man Up | |||
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"I'm convinced there's a few serial killers on here... been on for over a year.. can accommodate... yet zero verifications...i think they've had plenty of meets... there all buried in the basement "Not many have a basement here; I check for new grout around the patio tiles | |||
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"I'm convinced there's a few serial killers on here... been on for over a year.. can accommodate... yet zero verifications...i think they've had plenty of meets... there all buried in the basement "I don't bother burying my victims I just throw them in a vat of acid which is in my cellar. Anyone want a meet?  | |||
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"Always hada facination with jack the ripper who do you think was jack the ripper Doubt if we will ever know. Me personally thinks it was Cutbush? " I think it was Walter Sickert, the artist. (read Patricia Cornwalls Portrait of a killer) | |||
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"Always hada facination with jack the ripper who do you think was jack the ripper Doubt if we will ever know. Me personally thinks it was Cutbush? I think it was Walter Sickert, the artist. (read Patricia Cornwalls Portrait of a killer)" that's a must read x | |||
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"Fred & Rose West were major swingers...just saying... "Fred West certainly was a swinger on 1/1/95....... | |||
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"Who else is fascinated by serial killers? Love watching autobiographies on you tube about serial killers.. Nothing about serial killers I don't know! "Except why they do it perhaps?! | |||
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"Who else is fascinated by serial killers? Love watching autobiographies on you tube about serial killers.. Nothing about serial killers I don't know!
Except why they do it perhaps?! "Money sex, mentally ill, crap childhoods The list goes on and on | |||
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"I'm convinced there's a few serial killers on here... been on for over a year.. can accommodate... yet zero verifications...i think they've had plenty of meets... there all buried in the basement
I don't bother burying my victims
I just throw them in a vat of acid which is in my cellar.
Anyone want a meet? "Or get some pigs- eat everything except the teeth | |||
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"Meeee. I watch pretty much all the fictional crime shows as well as the factual ones. And read about them too. Apparently my obsession with serial killers/killers/murderers is a bit concerning to some but hey I'm enjoying myself so oh well.
~Mia"I've been told that too lol | |||
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"Meeee. I watch pretty much all the fictional crime shows as well as the factual ones. And read about them too. Apparently my obsession with serial killers/killers/murderers is a bit concerning to some but hey I'm enjoying myself so oh well.
~Mia
I've been told that too lol "I'm glad I'm not the only one then. I thought it was good to be enthusiastic about something? | |||
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"Some great documentaries on youtube about serial killers and really interesting. Sat and watched a docu about Armin Mievis last night, very eery. Sounds very strange but Joel Rifkin is one ive followed closely. Quite a cold man but it was his honesty that struck me. Most killers are very brasen about their crimes but he said if he was ever released he would kill again and thats why he is pleased he will never be released. So many of them say they are reformed, like hell they are, at least he was honest haha I wanna train to be a be a forensic anthropologist but 10years plus training, huge costs and no jobs about, no chance lol"And Jeffrey Dahmer was remorsefull He hated killing the young men but couldn't stop He did an interview before he himself was killed in prison | |||
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"Watch Bates Motel. It's a good one. 3 series are on Netflix and the 4th one will have to download. " Couldn't get into that I prefer fiction | |||
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"Meeee. I watch pretty much all the fictional crime shows as well as the factual ones. And read about them too. Apparently my obsession with serial killers/killers/murderers is a bit concerning to some but hey I'm enjoying myself so oh well.
~Mia
I've been told that too lol
I'm glad I'm not the only one then.
I thought it was good to be enthusiastic about something? "People can sometimes get confused between enthusiasm or fascination and admiration | |||
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"Who else is fascinated by serial killers? Love watching autobiographies on you tube about serial killers.. Nothing about serial killers I don't know! "You're not alone. I could write a thesis on Gacy, Bundy and Ridgeway alone! | |||
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"Yes, me too. My mother's into all that kind of stuff, so I grew up with it all. Read all the books. Seen all the documentaries. It's a little morbid but fascinating nonetheless." My sister and I are like that. Our dad used to think us odd. | |||
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"Who else is fascinated by serial killers? Love watching autobiographies on you tube about serial killers.. Nothing about serial killers I don't know!
You're not alone. I could write a thesis on Gacy, Bundy and Ridgeway alone! "I've actually written a short story about a serial killer, not published yet but will be All non fiction of course | |||
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"Meeee. I watch pretty much all the fictional crime shows as well as the factual ones. And read about them too. Apparently my obsession with serial killers/killers/murderers is a bit concerning to some but hey I'm enjoying myself so oh well.
~Mia
I've been told that too lol
I'm glad I'm not the only one then.
I thought it was good to be enthusiastic about something?
People can sometimes get confused between enthusiasm or fascination and admiration "That is very true. I find serial killers very fascinating and interesting. But I definitely don't admire them. Maybe admire their intelligence but that's it. I'm more interesting in their life stories, what happened before they were killers etc, how they started killing and how they killed people and how many they killed. And how they some of them slipped up and got caught. Just interested in the whole story not just the killings but the person who committed them. ~Mia | |||
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"I suppose one of the biggest serial killers was Albert Pierrepont.." Hardly he was just doing his job | |||
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"Meeee. I watch pretty much all the fictional crime shows as well as the factual ones. And read about them too. Apparently my obsession with serial killers/killers/murderers is a bit concerning to some but hey I'm enjoying myself so oh well.
~Mia
I've been told that too lol
I'm glad I'm not the only one then.
I thought it was good to be enthusiastic about something?
People can sometimes get confused between enthusiasm or fascination and admiration
That is very true. I find serial killers very fascinating and interesting.
But I definitely don't admire them. Maybe admire their intelligence but that's it.
I'm more interesting in their life stories, what happened before they were killers etc, how they started killing and how they killed people and how many they killed. And how they some of them slipped up and got caught.
Just interested in the whole story not just the killings but the person who committed them.
~Mia
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"Meeee. I watch pretty much all the fictional crime shows as well as the factual ones. And read about them too. Apparently my obsession with serial killers/killers/murderers is a bit concerning to some but hey I'm enjoying myself so oh well.
~Mia
I've been told that too lol
I'm glad I'm not the only one then.
I thought it was good to be enthusiastic about something?
People can sometimes get confused between enthusiasm or fascination and admiration
That is very true. I find serial killers very fascinating and interesting.
But I definitely don't admire them. Maybe admire their intelligence but that's it.
I'm more interesting in their life stories, what happened before they were killers etc, how they started killing and how they killed people and how many they killed. And how they some of them slipped up and got caught.
Just interested in the whole story not just the killings but the person who committed them.
~Mia
Me too- love the psychology of it all. I started a Criminology degree in my younger years but panicked and quit "Yes it's all very fascinating and criminology is something I'd love to do. But not smart enough
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"Meeee. I watch pretty much all the fictional crime shows as well as the factual ones. And read about them too. Apparently my obsession with serial killers/killers/murderers is a bit concerning to some but hey I'm enjoying myself so oh well.
~Mia
I've been told that too lol
I'm glad I'm not the only one then.
I thought it was good to be enthusiastic about something?
People can sometimes get confused between enthusiasm or fascination and admiration
That is very true. I find serial killers very fascinating and interesting.
But I definitely don't admire them. Maybe admire their intelligence but that's it.
I'm more interesting in their life stories, what happened before they were killers etc, how they started killing and how they killed people and how many they killed. And how they some of them slipped up and got caught.
Just interested in the whole story not just the killings but the person who committed them.
~Mia
Me too- love the psychology of it all. I started a Criminology degree in my younger years but panicked and quit
Yes it's all very fascinating and criminology is something I'd love to do. But not smart enough
~Mia"Wish I'd stuck with it but hindsight is a wonderful thing ! And I'm sure you are smart enough | |||
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"Denni Nilsen and Jeff Dahmer...fucking sick reading about them Mind you all of them are sick, That Richard Ramirez guy...fucked up skinny freak Boil em alive i say!" It's sick to read about them orbit made you sick reading about them ? | |||
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"Meeee. I watch pretty much all the fictional crime shows as well as the factual ones. And read about them too. Apparently my obsession with serial killers/killers/murderers is a bit concerning to some but hey I'm enjoying myself so oh well.
~Mia
I've been told that too lol
I'm glad I'm not the only one then.
I thought it was good to be enthusiastic about something?
People can sometimes get confused between enthusiasm or fascination and admiration
That is very true. I find serial killers very fascinating and interesting.
But I definitely don't admire them. Maybe admire their intelligence but that's it.
I'm more interesting in their life stories, what happened before they were killers etc, how they started killing and how they killed people and how many they killed. And how they some of them slipped up and got caught.
Just interested in the whole story not just the killings but the person who committed them.
~Mia
Me too- love the psychology of it all. I started a Criminology degree in my younger years but panicked and quit
Yes it's all very fascinating and criminology is something I'd love to do. But not smart enough
~Mia
Wish I'd stuck with it but hindsight is a wonderful thing ! And I'm sure you are smart enough "These days you need all these high grades to get into these kinds of courses. My grades are mainly average Also I work full time and need the money so no time for studying unless I do it on the side. I will make my mission to research these things next year. ~Mia | |||
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"Denni Nilsen and Jeff Dahmer...fucking sick reading about them Mind you all of them are sick, That Richard Ramirez guy...fucked up skinny freak Boil em alive i say! It's sick to read about them orbit made you sick reading about them ?" Sorry...its not sick to read about em, everyone has a morbid curiosity and wonders what makes people do shit like that but it made me sick..the crimes they did, especially Jeff Dahmer...and he wasnt classed as insane? wtf | |||
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"Meeee. I watch pretty much all the fictional crime shows as well as the factual ones. And read about them too. Apparently my obsession with serial killers/killers/murderers is a bit concerning to some but hey I'm enjoying myself so oh well.
~Mia
I've been told that too lol
I'm glad I'm not the only one then.
I thought it was good to be enthusiastic about something?
People can sometimes get confused between enthusiasm or fascination and admiration
That is very true. I find serial killers very fascinating and interesting.
But I definitely don't admire them. Maybe admire their intelligence but that's it.
I'm more interesting in their life stories, what happened before they were killers etc, how they started killing and how they killed people and how many they killed. And how they some of them slipped up and got caught.
Just interested in the whole story not just the killings but the person who committed them.
~Mia
Me too- love the psychology of it all. I started a Criminology degree in my younger years but panicked and quit
Yes it's all very fascinating and criminology is something I'd love to do. But not smart enough
~Mia
Wish I'd stuck with it but hindsight is a wonderful thing ! And I'm sure you are smart enough
These days you need all these high grades to get into these kinds of courses. My grades are mainly average
Also I work full time and need the money so no time for studying unless I do it on the side.
I will make my mission to research these things next year.
~Mia"I had bs and Cs ( but that was far long ago than I like to admit ) But yeah cost is the thing that's always stopped me going back | |||
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"Denni Nilsen and Jeff Dahmer...fucking sick reading about them Mind you all of them are sick, That Richard Ramirez guy...fucked up skinny freak Boil em alive i say! It's sick to read about them orbit made you sick reading about them ? Sorry...its not sick to read about em, everyone has a morbid curiosity and wonders what makes people do shit like that but it made me sick..the crimes they did, especially Jeff Dahmer...and he wasnt classed as insane? wtf" His first victim he killed by accident and realised he liked having sex with them while they were in a zombie like state. So he put bleached in their brains so they wouldn't run away | |||
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"Meeee. I watch pretty much all the fictional crime shows as well as the factual ones. And read about them too. Apparently my obsession with serial killers/killers/murderers is a bit concerning to some but hey I'm enjoying myself so oh well.
~Mia
I've been told that too lol
I'm glad I'm not the only one then.
I thought it was good to be enthusiastic about something?
People can sometimes get confused between enthusiasm or fascination and admiration
That is very true. I find serial killers very fascinating and interesting.
But I definitely don't admire them. Maybe admire their intelligence but that's it.
I'm more interesting in their life stories, what happened before they were killers etc, how they started killing and how they killed people and how many they killed. And how they some of them slipped up and got caught.
Just interested in the whole story not just the killings but the person who committed them.
~Mia
Me too- love the psychology of it all. I started a Criminology degree in my younger years but panicked and quit
Yes it's all very fascinating and criminology is something I'd love to do. But not smart enough
~Mia
Wish I'd stuck with it but hindsight is a wonderful thing ! And I'm sure you are smart enough
These days you need all these high grades to get into these kinds of courses. My grades are mainly average
Also I work full time and need the money so no time for studying unless I do it on the side.
I will make my mission to research these things next year.
~Mia
I had bs and Cs ( but that was far long ago than I like to admit )
But yeah cost is the thing that's always stopped me going back "Very costly doing further education. It makes me sad. ~Mia | |||
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"Quite a sad case that. Timothy Evans hanged for Christie's crime." Christie has been done to death. Wish they make another seris of a different serial killer | |||
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"Fair point. There are enough killers throughout history to choose from. Dr William Palmer?" That's strange was on about him to one of my patients few days ago | |||
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"Walked past the grave of one of his victims earlier today, the one he was hanged for. He killed a lot more though. " Do you like lurking In graveyards? | |||
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"I used to do voluntary work for a charity and visited several prisons in the UK.I was waiting outside HMP Channings Wood with a colleague and she told me in a very casual manner that her stepfather was a serial killer.He was in another prison so we weren't likely to bump in to him! "Who was he? | |||
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"I used to do voluntary work for a charity and visited several prisons in the UK.I was waiting outside HMP Channings Wood with a colleague and she told me in a very casual manner that her stepfather was a serial killer.He was in another prison so we weren't likely to bump in to him!
Who was he? "She didn't tell me his name and I didn't ask! | |||
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"Bit of a stroll yes." Think I might have a stroll threw the graveyards if it gets me there quicker | |||
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"Who else is fascinated by serial killers? Love watching autobiographies on you tube about serial killers.. Nothing about serial killers I don't know! "My TV is constantly on crime and investigation channel and I read a lot. However I have met several in my old job and the reality of them are pretty boring! | |||
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"Who else is fascinated by serial killers? Love watching autobiographies on you tube about serial killers.. Nothing about serial killers I don't know!
My TV is constantly on crime and investigation channel and I read a lot.
However I have met several in my old job and the reality of them are pretty boring!"The banality of evil. | |||
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"Who else is fascinated by serial killers? Love watching autobiographies on you tube about serial killers.. Nothing about serial killers I don't know!
My TV is constantly on crime and investigation channel and I read a lot.
However I have met several in my old job and the reality of them are pretty boring!"Could it be because they are locked up and can't do what they did before? | |||
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"Bit of a stroll yes. Think I might have a stroll threw the graveyards if it gets me there quicker " And you go through a graveyard with two historically significant graves. | |||
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"Bit of a stroll yes. Think I might have a stroll threw the graveyards if it gets me there quicker And you go through a graveyard with two historically significant graves." You have to show me which two? | |||
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"Who else is fascinated by serial killers? Love watching autobiographies on you tube about serial killers.. Nothing about serial killers I don't know!
My TV is constantly on crime and investigation channel and I read a lot.
However I have met several in my old job and the reality of them are pretty boring!
Could it be because they are locked up and can't do what they did before? "Quite possibly. It was quite bizarre. Some were lovely others you could almost sense evil coming from them. | |||
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"Two local murders. Palmer and the Bloody Steps murder, That was the inspiration for an Inspector Morse episode. " Have to look up this Bloody Steps Murder | |||
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"I'm adddidcted to them, there fascinating! I love the crime channels " I'm constantly watching morbid stuff It's unhealthy | |||
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"Two local murders. Palmer and the Bloody Steps murder, That was the inspiration for an Inspector Morse episode. Have to look up this Bloody Steps Murder " Christina Collins. | |||
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"Two local murders. Palmer and the Bloody Steps murder, That was the inspiration for an Inspector Morse episode. Have to look up this Bloody Steps Murder Christina Collins. " Just Googled it and theres a photo of her tombstone | |||
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"Same graveyard as John Parsons Cook. St Augustine's in Rugeley. " Your creeping me out | |||
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"I'm adddidcted to them, there fascinating! I love the crime channels I'm constantly watching morbid stuff It's unhealthy "Not unhealthy, a passion I'd say | |||
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"I used to have a theory that a disproportionate amount of notorious murderers were called Colin. While I was pleased for Colin Stagg when the poor guy was proved to be the victim of a hideous entrapment plan, it did bugger up that (admittedly unscientific) theory somewhat. "I remember that case | |||
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"I used to have a theory that a disproportionate amount of notorious murderers were called Colin. While I was pleased for Colin Stagg when the poor guy was proved to be the victim of a hideous entrapment plan, it did bugger up that (admittedly unscientific) theory somewhat.
I remember that case "So do I. The young lady killed on Wimbledon Common in front of her young son | |||
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"I used to have a theory that a disproportionate amount of notorious murderers were called Colin. While I was pleased for Colin Stagg when the poor guy was proved to be the victim of a hideous entrapment plan, it did bugger up that (admittedly unscientific) theory somewhat.
I remember that case
So do I. The young lady killed on Wimbledon Common in front of her young son "Rachel Nickell | |||
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