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Is a jaffa cake really a cake?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You dunk Jaffa cakes  . Noooo 
But yes for tax purposes they are. Cakes go dry when past their best and biccies go soggy.
Nita"
There was a court battle over vat, as above it was proven cakes go hard biscuits go soft. No VAT on Jaffas yeahhhh  ) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I do like a tax loophole - biscuits and cakes covered in chocolate are classed as luxury and therefore subject to VAT (whereas plain ones are zero rated). But if the chocolate is embedded in the biscuit - like chocolate chip cookies - then it avoids VAT. |
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By *ax777Man
over a year ago
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"Its a cake due to some VAT scam I believe
it's a cake because it's a cake  "
MCVities won a court case against HM Customs & Excise who claimed that jaffacakes were biscuits and as they are covered in chocolate should be subject to standard rate for VAT purposes, whereas cakes are zero rated. The court ruled in favour of McVities who claimed they are a cake. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If it goes hard when you leave it out, it's a cake. If it goes soft when you leave it out it's a biscuit"
I like this theory
Will someone now please test it on a jaffa cake to put us out of our misery |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yes. It's a cake
Only if it's offered in exchange for Dec on Fab. 
*mods. This is not true. It's a joke.
Poor Ant, he always gets left out  "
I'll send him a biscuit then. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yes. It's a cake
Only if it's offered in exchange for Dec on Fab.
*mods. This is not true. It's a joke.
Poor Ant, he always gets left out
I'll send him a biscuit then. "
*again. It's a joke. I won't send anything.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yes. It's a cake
But it looks like a biscuit!!
It's a cake 
I need a drink
Eggnog ?
Is there egg in this drink?"
Yes heated very slowly over a long period of time n keep stiring or the egg will cook. Xxx |
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By *onhorMan
over a year ago
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Can anyone answer the truly vexing question, is shortbread a biscuit?
I'll happily dunk in my tea. They retain high volumes without disintegration after all.
I'm not a fan of dipping my bread in my paned.  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Can anyone answer the truly vexing question, is shortbread a biscuit?
I'll happily dunk in my tea. They retain high volumes without disintegration after all.
I'm not a fan of dipping my bread in my paned. "
My head is battered now  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Im confused,i dunk a jaffa in my tea but i wouldnt dunk any other cake,i need input on this as its stressing me out!"
Firstly; what kind of depraved, deviant lunatic dunks a Jaffa Cake?
Secondly, and in answer to your question; no idea, they never survive long enough to warrant classification. |
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"Can anyone answer the truly vexing question, is shortbread a biscuit?
I'll happily dunk in my tea. They retain high volumes without disintegration after all.
I'm not a fan of dipping my bread in my paned.
My head is battered now "
Too much eggnog |
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By *onhorMan
over a year ago
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"Can anyone answer the truly vexing question, is shortbread a biscuit?
I'll happily dunk in my tea. They retain high volumes without disintegration after all.
I'm not a fan of dipping my bread in my paned.
My head is battered now "
Would it be mean to bring up Bombay duck at this point? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Can anyone answer the truly vexing question, is shortbread a biscuit?
I'll happily dunk in my tea. They retain high volumes without disintegration after all.
I'm not a fan of dipping my bread in my paned.
My head is battered now
Would it be mean to bring up Bombay duck at this point? "
isnt that fish.....ok thats it im going pub |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Can anyone answer the truly vexing question, is shortbread a biscuit?
I'll happily dunk in my tea. They retain high volumes without disintegration after all.
I'm not a fan of dipping my bread in my paned.
My head is battered now
Would it be mean to bring up Bombay duck at this point?
isnt that fish.....ok thats it im going pub"
I always thought it was a joke played on us brits by indian restaurant owners! See what they could get us to eat! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Its a cake due to some VAT scam I believe
it's a cake because it's a cake
MCVities won a court case against HM Customs & Excise who claimed that jaffacakes were biscuits and as they are covered in chocolate should be subject to standard rate for VAT purposes, whereas cakes are zero rated. The court ruled in favour of McVities who claimed they are a cake."
that as may be, but that isn't what makes it a cake..the fact it's a cake is what makes it a cake, meaning, that it still would be a cake if there was a court thingy or not whatever...i want some now |
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"I do like a tax loophole - biscuits and cakes covered in chocolate are classed as luxury and therefore subject to VAT (whereas plain ones are zero rated). But if the chocolate is embedded in the biscuit - like chocolate chip cookies - then it avoids VAT. "
I love the VAT rules. I gave up crisps for lent one year but carried on eating doritos as they are corn-based snacks. Shamefully I have now forgotten which one is zero rated  |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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don't start the "dunking ya jaffa cake" debate again... I got slaughted by everyone in this years "bake off" thread for admitting to doing that....
mary berry doesn't approve!!!! tut tut tut!!!! |
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"If it goes hard when you leave it out, it's a cake. If it goes soft when you leave it out it's a biscuit
I like this theory
Will someone now please test it on a jaffa cake to put us out of our misery "
Oh they defo go hard! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Im confused,i dunk a jaffa in my tea but i wouldnt dunk any other cake,i need input on this as its stressing me out!
Firstly; what kind of depraved, deviant lunatic dunks a Jaffa Cake?
Secondly, and in answer to your question; no idea, they never survive long enough to warrant classification. "
I remember reading an article a while ago regarding this. Apparently competitors were trying to prove that they were in fact a biscuit as biscuits are taxable and cake isn't. They failed. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I do like a tax loophole - biscuits and cakes covered in chocolate are classed as luxury and therefore subject to VAT (whereas plain ones are zero rated). But if the chocolate is embedded in the biscuit - like chocolate chip cookies - then it avoids VAT.
I love the VAT rules. I gave up crisps for lent one year but carried on eating doritos as they are corn-based snacks. Shamefully I have now forgotten which one is zero rated "
Corn based are zero rated, crisps are standard rated. I also like how it works with gingerbread men. A biscuit with two eyes, fine, you can be zero rated. Put icing buttons or chocolate trousers on that fucker and it's standard rated |
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"I do like a tax loophole - biscuits and cakes covered in chocolate are classed as luxury and therefore subject to VAT (whereas plain ones are zero rated). But if the chocolate is embedded in the biscuit - like chocolate chip cookies - then it avoids VAT.
I love the VAT rules. I gave up crisps for lent one year but carried on eating doritos as they are corn-based snacks. Shamefully I have now forgotten which one is zero rated
Corn based are zero rated, crisps are standard rated. I also like how it works with gingerbread men. A biscuit with two eyes, fine, you can be zero rated. Put icing buttons or chocolate trousers on that fucker and it's standard rated "
I didn't know that one! I need to get back into tax/VAT, bloody love it |
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"Im confused,i dunk a jaffa in my tea but i wouldnt dunk any other cake,i need input on this as its stressing me out!"
Do the stale test ,biscuits go soft when stale and cakes go hard to quote Harry hill that's how I remember it lol |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Can I just say yuk dipping jaffas is wrong and its a biscuit with a cake base (Kat) xx"
Oooh thats a good point,a biscuit with a cake base,the debate continues |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I do like a tax loophole - biscuits and cakes covered in chocolate are classed as luxury and therefore subject to VAT (whereas plain ones are zero rated). But if the chocolate is embedded in the biscuit - like chocolate chip cookies - then it avoids VAT.
I love the VAT rules. I gave up crisps for lent one year but carried on eating doritos as they are corn-based snacks. Shamefully I have now forgotten which one is zero rated
Corn based are zero rated, crisps are standard rated. I also like how it works with gingerbread men. A biscuit with two eyes, fine, you can be zero rated. Put icing buttons or chocolate trousers on that fucker and it's standard rated
I didn't know that one! I need to get back into tax/VAT, bloody love it "
The VAT folks were always the weirdos in the corner. But being able to multiply by 17.5% seemed to justify the highest charge out rate in the office for some reason |
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