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Shed. Yes I said shed... My shed is soaked. It's brick and concrete constructed, I think the issue is mainly due to the fact that my garden slopes down.
Earlier in the year I dug a trench and put some drainage in but it's clearly not been enough.
Does anyone have any other tips as to how I can prevent a soggy shed again in future?! |
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"So the shed is at the bottom of a slope and water is still coming in.. You did say it was on a concrete base with drainage... Think the shed needs raising slightly or drainage ain't draining "
How do you raise a brick shed?! |
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"So the shed is at the bottom of a slope and water is still coming in.. You did say it was on a concrete base with drainage... Think the shed needs raising slightly or drainage ain't draining
How do you raise a brick shed?! "
you don't you lower the garden around the shed but make sure the shed not at the lowest point |
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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago
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"So the shed is at the bottom of a slope and water is still coming in.. You did say it was on a concrete base with drainage... Think the shed needs raising slightly or drainage ain't draining
How do you raise a brick shed?! "
Put some more bricks under it.
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"So the shed is at the bottom of a slope and water is still coming in.. You did say it was on a concrete base with drainage... Think the shed needs raising slightly or drainage ain't draining
How do you raise a brick shed?!
you don't you lower the garden around the shed but make sure the shed not at the lowest point "
That's what I meant.. Didn't word correctly sorry... Possibly coat with weather seal waterproofing... Or equivalent brand  |
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"So the shed is at the bottom of a slope and water is still coming in.. You did say it was on a concrete base with drainage... Think the shed needs raising slightly or drainage ain't draining
How do you raise a brick shed?!
Put some more bricks under it.
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Useful if it wasn't a permanent structure! |
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"So the shed is at the bottom of a slope and water is still coming in.. You did say it was on a concrete base with drainage... Think the shed needs raising slightly or drainage ain't draining
How do you raise a brick shed?!
you don't you lower the garden around the shed but make sure the shed not at the lowest point
That's what I meant.. Didn't word correctly sorry... Possibly coat with weather seal waterproofing... Or equivalent brand "
It might actually be possible to dig the garden. I think part of the problem might also be clay soil as it really holds on to the water. |
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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago
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"So the shed is at the bottom of a slope and water is still coming in.. You did say it was on a concrete base with drainage... Think the shed needs raising slightly or drainage ain't draining
How do you raise a brick shed?!
Put some more bricks under it.
Useful if it wasn't a permanent structure! "
If it's a permanent structure, temporary water shouldn't be an issue! 
Relabel it "pool house"? |
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"So the shed is at the bottom of a slope and water is still coming in.. You did say it was on a concrete base with drainage... Think the shed needs raising slightly or drainage ain't draining
How do you raise a brick shed?!
Put some more bricks under it.
Useful if it wasn't a permanent structure!
If it's a permanent structure, temporary water shouldn't be an issue!
Relabel it "pool house"?"
Animals live in it, so yeah it's an issue! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Dig around it to a depth of 2-3 feet. Fill space with plastic milk crates..stone/brick on top then returf. Should be a decent soakaway. That's assuming the water is coming 'down' rather than 'up' |
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By *andsonjohnMan
over a year ago
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"Shed. Yes I said shed... My shed is soaked. It's brick and concrete constructed, I think the issue is mainly due to the fact that my garden slopes down.
Earlier in the year I dug a trench and put some drainage in but it's clearly not been enough.
Does anyone have any other tips as to how I can prevent a soggy shed again in future?! "
don't sit on it while you on fab perving
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"Shed. Yes I said shed... My shed is soaked. It's brick and concrete constructed, I think the issue is mainly due to the fact that my garden slopes down.
Earlier in the year I dug a trench and put some drainage in but it's clearly not been enough.
Does anyone have any other tips as to how I can prevent a soggy shed again in future?! "
I presume you have been told to dig a trench and put drainage into it
depending on your slope and also the pipe used in draining the water into a drain
you would need something like 4" drain pipe and also pebbles around the pipe
you can use proper drainage systems at 3" but these can become overflooded in heavy rain
made even worse by rain water washing down the slope can bridge the drain off part |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
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"So the shed is at the bottom of a slope and water is still coming in.. You did say it was on a concrete base with drainage... Think the shed needs raising slightly or drainage ain't draining
How do you raise a brick shed?!
Put some more bricks under it.
Useful if it wasn't a permanent structure!
If it's a permanent structure, temporary water shouldn't be an issue!
Relabel it "pool house"?
Animals live in it, so yeah it's an issue! "
What animals?
Couldn't you bung some pallets down so they are effectively on slats/chuck some straw on that.
This post sponsored by the "won't baler twine do?" school of farming... |
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"So the shed is at the bottom of a slope and water is still coming in.. You did say it was on a concrete base with drainage... Think the shed needs raising slightly or drainage ain't draining
How do you raise a brick shed?!
Put some more bricks under it.
Useful if it wasn't a permanent structure!
If it's a permanent structure, temporary water shouldn't be an issue!
Relabel it "pool house"?
Animals live in it, so yeah it's an issue!
What animals?
Couldn't you bung some pallets down so they are effectively on slats/chuck some straw on that.
This post sponsored by the "won't baler twine do?" school of farming..."
It's not the ground water itself which is the problem, it's the damp in the air which is the problem. Not good for any breathing creature to breath damp air for a prolonged period of time. |
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"Shed. Yes I said shed... My shed is soaked. It's brick and concrete constructed, I think the issue is mainly due to the fact that my garden slopes down.
Earlier in the year I dug a trench and put some drainage in but it's clearly not been enough.
Does anyone have any other tips as to how I can prevent a soggy shed again in future?!
I presume you have been told to dig a trench and put drainage into it
depending on your slope and also the pipe used in draining the water into a drain
you would need something like 4" drain pipe and also pebbles around the pipe
you can use proper drainage systems at 3" but these can become overflooded in heavy rain
made even worse by rain water washing down the slope can bridge the drain off part "
I dug a trench in the summer and filled it with pea shingle. There isn't a drainage pipe as that wasn't part of advice I was previously given. |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
Hereford |
"So the shed is at the bottom of a slope and water is still coming in.. You did say it was on a concrete base with drainage... Think the shed needs raising slightly or drainage ain't draining
How do you raise a brick shed?!
Put some more bricks under it.
Useful if it wasn't a permanent structure!
If it's a permanent structure, temporary water shouldn't be an issue!
Relabel it "pool house"?
Animals live in it, so yeah it's an issue!
What animals?
Couldn't you bung some pallets down so they are effectively on slats/chuck some straw on that.
This post sponsored by the "won't baler twine do?" school of farming...
It's not the ground water itself which is the problem, it's the damp in the air which is the problem. Not good for any breathing creature to breath damp air for a prolonged period of time. "
Depends on the creature. We live in Britain, its fucking damp. Couldn't you knock a few bricks out at the top/bottom to help air circulate? Most modern barns are yorkshire board for this very reason. |
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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago
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"It's not the ground water itself which is the problem, it's the damp in the air which is the problem. Not good for any breathing creature to breath damp air for a prolonged period of time. "
Since you indulged my pisstakes so patiently, does a dehumidifier sound like a solution? Presume you'll need a battery powered one, not sure if such a thing exists though. |
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"It's not the ground water itself which is the problem, it's the damp in the air which is the problem. Not good for any breathing creature to breath damp air for a prolonged period of time.
Since you indulged my pisstakes so patiently, does a dehumidifier sound like a solution? Presume you'll need a battery powered one, not sure if such a thing exists though."
I think it's gone past the point of any king of dehumidifier helping unfortunately. That said I don't know how effective they are! |
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"So the shed is at the bottom of a slope and water is still coming in.. You did say it was on a concrete base with drainage... Think the shed needs raising slightly or drainage ain't draining
How do you raise a brick shed?!
Put some more bricks under it.
Useful if it wasn't a permanent structure!
If it's a permanent structure, temporary water shouldn't be an issue!
Relabel it "pool house"?
Animals live in it, so yeah it's an issue!
What animals?
Couldn't you bung some pallets down so they are effectively on slats/chuck some straw on that.
This post sponsored by the "won't baler twine do?" school of farming...
It's not the ground water itself which is the problem, it's the damp in the air which is the problem. Not good for any breathing creature to breath damp air for a prolonged period of time.
Depends on the creature. We live in Britain, its fucking damp. Couldn't you knock a few bricks out at the top/bottom to help air circulate? Most modern barns are yorkshire board for this very reason. "
There's a window which is always open and the door isn't airtight (it's on the other side of the slope!) but that doesn't make any difference. The bricks/concrete are porous now so the water just seeps in. I will look into painting it in the spring. |
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Not worth forking out as they can break easily , just hire one October through to Feb and ul be ok , trust me I hire them out hahah and I'm not just trying to get u to buy from me x |
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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago
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"Are u sure it's not due to damp in the air? May I suggest a dehumidifier for the colder months? X
No its not damp in the air. "
Sorry, but you did specifically say that it was.
And I don't understand how painting the walls will help.
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"I dug a trench in the summer and filled it with pea shingle. There isn't a drainage pipe as that wasn't part of advice I was previously given. "
there should have been a drain pipe to aid in its drain off of the water otherwise all your doing is digging a hole for water to gather at this point therefore wasting your time as it will still reach your shed
air movement is the key in a damp shed by change of air
dehumidifiers only come into there own when there within a sealed area work really well within a house
I have an industrial one
they can work well in a shed to dry it out only after youve cured the water problem
movement of hot air can aid a damp shed but can also cause the problem as well due to heat hitting colds walls |
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You really need to identify the source of the damp.
Windows and other forms of ventilation only equalise humidity; they do not necessarily decrease it. Having an open window, vent etc. on a hot summers day will have the effect of decreasing humidity as the hot outside air will have less humidity than the air inside. On a cold, damp autumn day the opposite is true as the outside humidity is likely very high. However, you will always need some level of ventilation if animals are kept in the structure.
If the problem is groundwater then the foundations of the structure itself are probably inadequate provided you have already ruled out rainwater drainage from the structure as an issue. It depends on the size of the structure whether this can be remedied or not... |
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"Are u sure it's not due to damp in the air? May I suggest a dehumidifier for the colder months? X
No its not damp in the air.
Sorry, but you did specifically say that it was.
And I don't understand how painting the walls will help.
Taking the thread seriously has not gone well for me "
I said the water comes in? The shed is physically wet. Like wet. Not like a little bit of condensation/damp in the air. |
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I need some info from you
when you dug the trench did you have a run off lower than the pebbles for the water to go somewhere
if not a drain should have been used if you could connect to a drain
if its rising damp caused by the above your not going to be able to stop it other than using the above methods and the water seal below this will lower the symptoms to a good degree
as goes for painting dont a waste your money on paint on the brick walls
you need to use thompsons water seal or similar but that needs doing every 2 years one coat is good enough but 2 coats are better but must be recoated within 1/2 an hr.
use a big brush we use a pump on spray
other than insulating the shed and allowing free movement of air behind the boards but that comes at a cost for some gear |
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"I need some info from you
when you dug the trench did you have a run off lower than the pebbles for the water to go somewhere
if not a drain should have been used if you could connect to a drain
if its rising damp caused by the above your not going to be able to stop it other than using the above methods and the water seal below this will lower the symptoms to a good degree
as goes for painting dont a waste your money on paint on the brick walls
you need to use thompsons water seal or similar but that needs doing every 2 years one coat is good enough but 2 coats are better but must be recoated within 1/2 an hr.
use a big brush we use a pump on spray
other than insulating the shed and allowing free movement of air behind the boards but that comes at a cost for some gear "
I can't really answer you! All I can say is I dug about 3 bricks down from the ground line and filled it with pea shingle. That's what I was advised to do. I don't know what you mean by run off. All I know is what I've said! |
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a run off is like your kitchen sink and bath with the overflow pipe so it dosnt overflow over your sink top
what you might have done is create a trough of water like your sink with no drain off
you need something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmmdGiEh1Mw |
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" a run off is like your kitchen sink and bath with the overflow pipe so it dosnt overflow over your sink top
what you might have done is create a trough of water like your sink with no drain off
you need something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmmdGiEh1Mw"
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Hello
Problem could be that you dig perimeter of the building and leave. This 50% of works another step is take away excess of water sitting in gravel you need to dig similar trench leading away from building perimeter trench ( they must be connected) then water will be flowing away from building perimeter. If it raising damp then another step is put DPM down and screed. Your shed walls probably do not have DPC then if you do not want rebuild your shed only option is wall tanking. Probably is better to knock down and rebuild. Remember that animals exhale steam and you can seal shed to tight. Dehumidifier idea in open air it not works it only works in closed buildings but animals need air to breathe. |
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Problem could be that you dig perimeter of the building and leave. This 50% of works another step is take away excess of water sitting in gravel you need to dig similar trench leading away from building perimeter trench ( they must be connected) then water will be flowing away from building perimeter. If it raising damp then another step is put DPM down and screed. Your shed walls probably do not have DPC then if you do not want rebuild your shed only option is wall tanking. Probably is better to knock down and rebuild. Remember that animals exhale steam and you can seal shed to tight. Dehumidifier idea in open air it not works it only works in closed buildings but animals need air to breathe."
Thank you for your input.
The shed is connected to next doors shed so I can't knock it down to rebuild really.
So one wall is connected (imagine a block of 2 garages), one wall backs onto the wet earth/grass (where I've put my silly trench!) and the other 2 walls have concrete paths surrounding. The paths do slope away from the shed though. So I think it really is the wall where the earth/mud is the problem lies! Some of the bricks had moss growing on them which I think means the bricks have gone porous. Originally when I moved here there were massive bushes planted there and the earth was piled up above the slate damp course which obviously won't have helped! |
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"The shed is connected to next doors shed so I can't knock it down to rebuild really.
So one wall is connected (imagine a block of 2 garages), one wall backs onto the wet earth/grass (where I've put my silly trench!) and the other 2 walls have concrete paths surrounding. The paths do slope away from the shed though. So I think it really is the wall where the earth/mud is the problem lies! Some of the bricks had moss growing on them which I think means the bricks have gone porous. Originally when I moved here there were massive bushes planted there and the earth was piled up above the slate damp course which obviously won't have helped! "
its not a silly trench that you made it would have been correct if you had created a run off for the water to go somewhere
the advice was sound that you was told to do as long as you run off the water onto the concrete path ( if you could have done )
however in heavy rain it would still flood
I suspect a drain being plumbed in is also a no go due to the concrete path
is the soil higher than the concrete pathway? |
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By *xx1Man
over a year ago
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"It's not the ground water itself which is the problem, it's the damp in the air which is the problem. Not good for any breathing creature to breath damp air for a prolonged period of time.
Since you indulged my pisstakes so patiently, does a dehumidifier sound like a solution? Presume you'll need a battery powered one, not sure if such a thing exists though.
I think it's gone past the point of any king of dehumidifier helping unfortunately. That said I don't know how effective they are!"
Was a sufficient damp proof course integrated into the building?.... If not, apply dpc via injecting bricks.
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"It's not the ground water itself which is the problem, it's the damp in the air which is the problem. Not good for any breathing creature to breath damp air for a prolonged period of time.
Since you indulged my pisstakes so patiently, does a dehumidifier sound like a solution? Presume you'll need a battery powered one, not sure if such a thing exists though.
I think it's gone past the point of any king of dehumidifier helping unfortunately. That said I don't know how effective they are!
Was a sufficient damp proof course integrated into the building?.... If not, apply dpc via injecting bricks.
X"
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"The shed is connected to next doors shed so I can't knock it down to rebuild really.
So one wall is connected (imagine a block of 2 garages), one wall backs onto the wet earth/grass (where I've put my silly trench!) and the other 2 walls have concrete paths surrounding. The paths do slope away from the shed though. So I think it really is the wall where the earth/mud is the problem lies! Some of the bricks had moss growing on them which I think means the bricks have gone porous. Originally when I moved here there were massive bushes planted there and the earth was piled up above the slate damp course which obviously won't have helped!
its not a silly trench that you made it would have been correct if you had created a run off for the water to go somewhere
the advice was sound that you was told to do as long as you run off the water onto the concrete path ( if you could have done )
however in heavy rain it would still flood
I suspect a drain being plumbed in is also a no go due to the concrete path
is the soil higher than the concrete pathway?"
The soil is lower than the concrete path.
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By *kgeminiMan
over a year ago
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There are some people in this thread who sound like they know what they are talking about. I suggest you pm them and send them some photos as trying to picture the shed and the issues are very difficult |
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"There are some people in this thread who sound like they know what they are talking about. I suggest you pm them and send them some photos as trying to picture the shed and the issues are very difficult "
Is it? And who are the people who know what they're talking about? |
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for the moss its either bleach and scrubbing brush or a power wash to get it off.
you could use the thompsons water seal this reflects water away from the wall it does work.
the pebbles that are in are just creating a trough for the water to collect at.
normally that method is used for drains or to collect it at one point theres no guarantee that a drain is low enough to drain the water into.
other than pumping it out |
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OK had a bit of a skip read...
Animals create heat, single skin buildings create condensation, as the heat draws moisture in.
So you need to do this...
1 ensure your drainage trench extends at least a shed length away from the shed.
2 Shower proof the outside of the shed, this can be done with thompson waterseal through to waterproof render.
3 sort out ventilation, remove brick/s at bottom and top, replacing with air bricks.
4 Insulation, nothing too fancy needed, needs to be waterproof and stop the heat generated getting to the walls. polystyrene sheets are good, stick them directly to the walls then line the inside with 12 mm plywood, can screw directly to the brick through the polystyrene. make sure not to block the vents at all.
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