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"I do. I don't have to explain how it 'works', it's just something I like to do sometimes. I haven't been struck by lightning yet and no one sings kumbaya." your going to hell, your book/bible says so | |||
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"how does that work ? one day your on your back spreading your legs for some random stranger you met on this site the next day your sat there singing kumbaya my lord " You get on your back and open your legs for total strangers?? Good man!! | |||
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"how does that work ? one day your on your back spreading your legs for some random stranger you met on this site the next day your sat there singing kumbaya my lord " No one sings kumbaya where I go for mass | |||
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"how does that work ? one day your on your back spreading your legs for some random stranger you met on this site the next day your sat there singing kumbaya my lord You get on your back and open your legs for total strangers?? Good man!!" I'll do anything if you get me d*unk enough sweetheart | |||
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"The church and contradiction? Who'd have thought it..." ZING! | |||
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"how does that work ? one day your on your back spreading your legs for some random stranger you met on this site the next day your sat there singing kumbaya my lord You get on your back and open your legs for total strangers?? Good man!! I'll do anything if you get me d*unk enough sweetheart " It's okay thanks, you stay sober. So are you 'Fab straight'? | |||
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"Occasionally. But what you're really wanting is to scream hypocrisy at those who admit to going. " What he really wants is attention. | |||
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"It's what Jesus would want " . This has made my day ?????? | |||
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"Occasionally. But what you're really wanting is to scream hypocrisy at those who admit to going. What he really wants is attention." Bugger. Just noticed the time. Just after homework but before mum has called him down for tea! | |||
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"Occasionally. But what you're really wanting is to scream hypocrisy at those who admit to going. What he really wants is attention. Bugger. Just noticed the time. Just after homework but before mum has called him down for tea! " Priceless comment!! | |||
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"I was of the understanding that being a christian is about having a relationship with God than following the bible to the letter. We go to Church occaisionally but by no means deeply religious, besides our old vicar always said as long as it was between consenting adults then its all good!! " | |||
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"Occasionally. But what you're really wanting is to scream hypocrisy at those who admit to going. What he really wants is attention." I don't think so. Maybe he just wants some answers to a genuine question. When I first saw his question. I was pretty interested too. | |||
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"how does that work ? one day your on your back spreading your legs for some random stranger you met on this site the next day your sat there singing kumbaya my lord You get on your back and open your legs for total strangers?? Good man!! I'll do anything if you get me d*unk enough sweetheart It's okay thanks, you stay sober. So are you 'Fab straight'?" nope not fab straight, I'm the normal kind of straight | |||
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"Occasionally. But what you're really wanting is to scream hypocrisy at those who admit to going. What he really wants is attention." I get pleanty of attention, thanks for caring though | |||
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"I was of the understanding that being a christian is about having a relationship with God than following the bible to the letter. We go to Church occaisionally but by no means deeply religious, besides our old vicar always said as long as it was between consenting adults then its all good!! " An excellent post . In ideal circumstances the bible would be updated to reflect modern times . The church have no interest in anyone's swinging activities. | |||
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"Occasionally. But what you're really wanting is to scream hypocrisy at those who admit to going. What he really wants is attention. I get pleanty of attention, thanks for caring though " Caring?? Nope, not in the slightest. | |||
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"how does that work ? one day your on your back spreading your legs for some random stranger you met on this site the next day your sat there singing kumbaya my lord " The two activities are entirely unrelated. You simply go to church to worship god . This activity has no relation to swinging . | |||
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"Occasionally. But what you're really wanting is to scream hypocrisy at those who admit to going. What he really wants is attention. Bugger. Just noticed the time. Just after homework but before mum has called him down for tea! Priceless comment!!" not really it was a weak comment like the faith of the church goers on here | |||
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"Occasionally. But what you're really wanting is to scream hypocrisy at those who admit to going. What he really wants is attention. Bugger. Just noticed the time. Just after homework but before mum has called him down for tea! " I wish I had thought of that . | |||
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"Occasionally. But what you're really wanting is to scream hypocrisy at those who admit to going. " | |||
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"Occasionally. But what you're really wanting is to scream hypocrisy at those who admit to going. What he really wants is attention. I don't think so. Maybe he just wants some answers to a genuine question. When I first saw his question. I was pretty interested too. " yep | |||
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"how does that work ? one day your on your back spreading your legs for some random stranger you met on this site the next day your sat there singing kumbaya my lord " As you asked the question , do you go to church?. | |||
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"Occasionally. But what you're really wanting is to scream hypocrisy at those who admit to going. What he really wants is attention. I don't think so. Maybe he just wants some answers to a genuine question. When I first saw his question. I was pretty interested too. yep" Nope. From his comments on here it is quite clear what his intentions are. | |||
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"Occasionally. But what you're really wanting is to scream hypocrisy at those who admit to going. What he really wants is attention. Bugger. Just noticed the time. Just after homework but before mum has called him down for tea! I wish I had thought of that . " why would you want to think of a lame comment ? know many 36 year old's that still have homework or their mum calling them for tea ? | |||
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"Occasionally. But what you're really wanting is to scream hypocrisy at those who admit to going. What he really wants is attention. I don't think so. Maybe he just wants some answers to a genuine question. When I first saw his question. I was pretty interested too. yep Nope. From his comments on here it is quite clear what his intentions are." you seem upset | |||
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"Occasionally. But what you're really wanting is to scream hypocrisy at those who admit to going. What he really wants is attention. Bugger. Just noticed the time. Just after homework but before mum has called him down for tea! I wish I had thought of that . why would you want to think of a lame comment ? know many 36 year old's that still have homework or their mum calling them for tea ?" But you're 40 on your profile.... | |||
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"Occasionally. But what you're really wanting is to scream hypocrisy at those who admit to going. What he really wants is attention. I don't think so. Maybe he just wants some answers to a genuine question. When I first saw his question. I was pretty interested too. yep Nope. From his comments on here it is quite clear what his intentions are. you seem upset " Not in the slightest. We find this all really amusing!! | |||
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"Occasionally. But what you're really wanting is to scream hypocrisy at those who admit to going. What he really wants is attention. I don't think so. Maybe he just wants some answers to a genuine question. When I first saw his question. I was pretty interested too. yep Nope. From his comments on here it is quite clear what his intentions are. you seem upset Not in the slightest. We find this all really amusing!! " yeah sure | |||
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"Occasionally. But what you're really wanting is to scream hypocrisy at those who admit to going. What he really wants is attention. I don't think so. Maybe he just wants some answers to a genuine question. When I first saw his question. I was pretty interested too. yep Nope. From his comments on here it is quite clear what his intentions are. you seem upset Not in the slightest. We find this all really amusing!! yeah sure " Excellent entertainment! Had tea now? | |||
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"Occasionally. But what you're really wanting is to scream hypocrisy at those who admit to going. What he really wants is attention. Bugger. Just noticed the time. Just after homework but before mum has called him down for tea! I wish I had thought of that . why would you want to think of a lame comment ? know many 36 year old's that still have homework or their mum calling them for tea ? But you're 40 on your profile...." well I'm actually 36 but 36/40 it don't matter the comment was still lame | |||
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"Occasionally. But what you're really wanting is to scream hypocrisy at those who admit to going. What he really wants is attention. I don't think so. Maybe he just wants some answers to a genuine question. When I first saw his question. I was pretty interested too. yep Nope. From his comments on here it is quite clear what his intentions are. you seem upset Not in the slightest. We find this all really amusing!! yeah sure Excellent entertainment! Had tea now?" old people have tea...have you had yours ? | |||
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"Occasionally. But what you're really wanting is to scream hypocrisy at those who admit to going. What he really wants is attention. Bugger. Just noticed the time. Just after homework but before mum has called him down for tea! I wish I had thought of that . why would you want to think of a lame comment ? know many 36 year old's that still have homework or their mum calling them for tea ? But you're 40 on your profile.... well I'm actually 36 but 36/40 it don't matter the comment was still lame " Maybe they felt the comment was suited to the behaviour?? Just saying.... | |||
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"Occasionally. But what you're really wanting is to scream hypocrisy at those who admit to going. What he really wants is attention. I don't think so. Maybe he just wants some answers to a genuine question. When I first saw his question. I was pretty interested too. yep Nope. From his comments on here it is quite clear what his intentions are. you seem upset Not in the slightest. We find this all really amusing!! yeah sure Excellent entertainment! Had tea now? old people have tea...have you had yours ?" Children have mummy call them for it. Finished yours? | |||
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"Occasionally. But what you're really wanting is to scream hypocrisy at those who admit to going. What he really wants is attention. Bugger. Just noticed the time. Just after homework but before mum has called him down for tea! I wish I had thought of that . why would you want to think of a lame comment ? know many 36 year old's that still have homework or their mum calling them for tea ? But you're 40 on your profile.... well I'm actually 36 but 36/40 it don't matter the comment was still lame Maybe they felt the comment was suited to the behaviour?? Just saying...." oh I'm sorry if my behaviour offended your delicate sensibilities p.s sorry for upsetting you | |||
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"Occasionally. But what you're really wanting is to scream hypocrisy at those who admit to going. What he really wants is attention. Bugger. Just noticed the time. Just after homework but before mum has called him down for tea! I wish I had thought of that . why would you want to think of a lame comment ? know many 36 year old's that still have homework or their mum calling them for tea ? But you're 40 on your profile.... well I'm actually 36 but 36/40 it don't matter the comment was still lame Maybe they felt the comment was suited to the behaviour?? Just saying.... oh I'm sorry if my behaviour offended your delicate sensibilities p.s sorry for upsetting you " Not upset here Lumpy. This is the best comedy all day!! | |||
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"Occasionally. But what you're really wanting is to scream hypocrisy at those who admit to going. What he really wants is attention. I don't think so. Maybe he just wants some answers to a genuine question. When I first saw his question. I was pretty interested too. yep Nope. From his comments on here it is quite clear what his intentions are. you seem upset Not in the slightest. We find this all really amusing!! yeah sure Excellent entertainment! Had tea now? old people have tea...have you had yours ? Children have mummy call them for it. Finished yours?" lame see your lips are moving but their other peoples words aka you got no game you mad! | |||
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"It's what Jesus would want " Ha ha probably | |||
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"Occasionally. But what you're really wanting is to scream hypocrisy at those who admit to going. What he really wants is attention. I don't think so. Maybe he just wants some answers to a genuine question. When I first saw his question. I was pretty interested too. yep Nope. From his comments on here it is quite clear what his intentions are. you seem upset Not in the slightest. We find this all really amusing!! yeah sure Excellent entertainment! Had tea now? old people have tea...have you had yours ? Children have mummy call them for it. Finished yours? lame see your lips are moving but their other peoples words aka you got no game you mad! " English not your first language? | |||
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"I was of the understanding that being a christian is about having a relationship with God than following the bible to the letter. We go to Church occaisionally but by no means deeply religious, besides our old vicar always said as long as it was between consenting adults then its all good!! " In some cases this didn't work out for the choirboys though... | |||
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"Occasionally. But what you're really wanting is to scream hypocrisy at those who admit to going. What he really wants is attention. I don't think so. Maybe he just wants some answers to a genuine question. When I first saw his question. I was pretty interested too. yep Nope. From his comments on here it is quite clear what his intentions are. you seem upset Not in the slightest. We find this all really amusing!! yeah sure Excellent entertainment! Had tea now? old people have tea...have you had yours ? Children have mummy call them for it. Finished yours? lame see your lips are moving but their other peoples words aka you got no game you mad! English not your first language?" guessing you never seen the ''you mad bro'' pics | |||
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"Given the bible is packed from cover to cover with hypocrisy, contradiction, rape, murder, misogyny, homophobia, racism, xenophobia and fuck knows how many other thinly veiled examples of evil and propaganda, that I'd imagine God finds swingers rather tame. " This | |||
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"The Bible says adultery and sex before marriage is wrong. There are countless verses saying it's wrong. It's immoral. I think many people say they believe in God. But if they truly believed. Believed there was a hell. Believed the Bible and everything in it. I don't think they would be a swinger. Because they would go to hell. To burn for eternity. Apparently. " Amen sister | |||
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"Fab is my church. This is where I heal my hurts. " Amen... all the sexy ladies to the front and on their knees ready to repent | |||
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"Fab is my church. This is where I heal my hurts. Amen... all the sexy ladies to the front and on their knees ready to repent " For tonight God is a swinger | |||
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"The Bible says adultery and sex before marriage is wrong. There are countless verses saying it's wrong. It's immoral. I think many people say they believe in God. But if they truly believed. Believed there was a hell. Believed the Bible and everything in it. I don't think they would be a swinger. Because they would go to hell. To burn for eternity. Apparently. " In Christianity, all you need is faith in Jesus to be saved. Lucky for fabbers haha | |||
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"Given the bible is packed from cover to cover with hypocrisy, contradiction, rape, murder, misogyny, homophobia, racism, xenophobia and fuck knows how many other thinly veiled examples of evil and propaganda, that I'd imagine God finds swingers rather tame. " Bit like game of thrones really isnt it? | |||
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"Given the bible is packed from cover to cover with hypocrisy, contradiction, rape, murder, misogyny, homophobia, racism, xenophobia and fuck knows how many other thinly veiled examples of evil and propaganda, that I'd imagine God finds swingers rather tame. Bit like game of thrones really isnt it?" lmfao | |||
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"The Bible says adultery and sex before marriage is wrong. There are countless verses saying it's wrong. It's immoral. I think many people say they believe in God. But if they truly believed. Believed there was a hell. Believed the Bible and everything in it. I don't think they would be a swinger. Because they would go to hell. To burn for eternity. Apparently. " That is right and as well if someone is not straight. | |||
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"how does that work ? one day your on your back spreading your legs for some random stranger you met on this site the next day your sat there singing kumbaya my lord " What's your point exactly? Are you suggesting that those who go to church arn't allowed a sex life. Dear Lord. | |||
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"I started going in 2014 (used to go to the boys church service and christingle before that) but after the worst year of my life I stopped going. It is something I like doing though, I like the community feel, having a good old sing song, I can't explain it G x" Do what makes you feel happy | |||
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"Fab commandment 1 thou shalt not have bareback" Unless with one of the preaching disciples of course... holy men can't catch stds | |||
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"I do. I don't have to explain how it 'works', it's just something I like to do sometimes. I haven't been struck by lightning yet and no one sings kumbaya. your going to hell, your book/bible says so " No it doesn't. There's far more to Christianity and religion in general than just whom we can or cannot sleep with. Sex accounts for such a tiny tiny part of the Bible/Christian teaching yet it seems that's all the non religious seem to be obsessed with. | |||
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"Fab commandment 1 thou shalt not have bareback Unless with one of the preaching disciples of course... holy men can't catch stds " | |||
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"I was of the understanding that being a christian is about having a relationship with God than following the bible to the letter. We go to Church occaisionally but by no means deeply religious, besides our old vicar always said as long as it was between consenting adults then its all good!! In some cases this didn't work out for the choirboys though... " But choirboys don't fit the consenting adults bit do they | |||
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"The Bible says adultery and sex before marriage is wrong. There are countless verses saying it's wrong" The bible says lots of things, most of it shit. Fuck the bible. | |||
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"how does that work ? one day your on your back spreading your legs for some random stranger you met on this site the next day your sat there singing kumbaya my lord " Religious folk are able to twist and turn every word or phrase in their instruction manuals until the words mean exactly what they want them to mean. They've been doing it for a couple of thousand years now, so it's quite easy to do. | |||
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"how does that work ? one day your on your back spreading your legs for some random stranger you met on this site the next day your sat there singing kumbaya my lord Religious folk are able to twist and turn every word or phrase in their instruction manuals until the words mean exactly what they want them to mean. They've been doing it for a couple of thousand years now, so it's quite easy to do." Just like everyone else. | |||
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"I do. I don't have to explain how it 'works', it's just something I like to do sometimes. I haven't been struck by lightning yet and no one sings kumbaya. your going to hell, your book/bible says so No it doesn't. There's far more to Christianity and religion in general than just whom we can or cannot sleep with. Sex accounts for such a tiny tiny part of the Bible/Christian teaching yet it seems that's all the non religious seem to be obsessed with." | |||
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"how does that work ? one day your on your back spreading your legs for some random stranger you met on this site the next day your sat there singing kumbaya my lord " do they have gloryholes? | |||
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"The Bible says adultery and sex before marriage is wrong. There are countless verses saying it's wrong. It's immoral. I think many people say they believe in God. But if they truly believed. Believed there was a hell. Believed the Bible and everything in it. I don't think they would be a swinger. Because they would go to hell. To burn for eternity. Apparently. " Because it's a book of its time. It's mired in its social and political context. Very few Christians believe in the bible as a literal text, and the concept of hell as a burny place. You can believe in God without subscribing to that. You don't have to understand it, or like it, but don't presume to tell people that if they do x, y, or z they can't "truly" believe. My local Catholic Church has a big sign up outside saying everyone is welcome, whatever their marital status, sexuality or nationality. Does that mean the priest isn't a real Catholic? Can't be a true believer because he welcomes homosexuals in his parish? | |||
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"how does that work ? one day your on your back spreading your legs for some random stranger you met on this site the next day your sat there singing kumbaya my lord Religious folk are able to twist and turn every word or phrase in their instruction manuals until the words mean exactly what they want them to mean. They've been doing it for a couple of thousand years now, so it's quite easy to do. Just like everyone else." True, but non-religious folk don't have the "book" to hide behind, or use to justify their actions. Personally, I think the bad of religion outweighs the good. | |||
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"I am a christian. I dont go to church and I dont follow the bible to the full. I am single and got no sins, but the bible do say few things about married couples who swing " | |||
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"Not seen the other posts op - but I was a regular Churchgoer until I started swinging - a Sunday school teacher in fact! After I first attended a club and carried out a couple of fantasies (mff and mmf) I had a huge amount of guilt when I next attended church! The bible links morality with sex at every level! Unless you have one on one, heterosexual sex within marriage then you are committing a major sin and are inherently 'bad' (interestingly, men at that time could have hundreds of wives (if they could afford them) - so it was only women who were expected to be monogamous - usually to a husband they didn't choose!) As I was already questioning my faith (always had major issues with the bible's homophobia, for instance, and the huge amount of damage/grief this has subsequently (and still does) cause! ) I decided that I couldn't marry swinging and church and chose swinging! I now have faith in 'a god' but not the judgemental God of the bible who links sex so inextricably with immorality and sin! I believe you can be a good person and shag someone different every day - the bible, the church and most of society would disagree with me there! " your not wrong there..... | |||
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"The Bible says adultery and sex before marriage is wrong. There are countless verses saying it's wrong. It's immoral. I think many people say they believe in God. But if they truly believed. Believed there was a hell. Believed the Bible and everything in it. I don't think they would be a swinger. Because they would go to hell. To burn for eternity. Apparently. " Actually no - only unrepentant Jews maybe...Christians on the other hand are under grace, not law. That means that 'everything is permissable, not everything is beneficial', they are saved cos of who they put their faith in, not what they do. However, they are clearly instructed not to do such things, and at the very least they would have to admit to 'not following their religion'. There are scriptures which suggest the whole salvation could be put in jeopardy by the kind of persistent wilful disobedience that swinging would involve, so you may have a point. | |||
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"The Bible says adultery and sex before marriage is wrong. There are countless verses saying it's wrong. It's immoral. I think many people say they believe in God. But if they truly believed. Believed there was a hell. Believed the Bible and everything in it. I don't think they would be a swinger. Because they would go to hell. To burn for eternity. Apparently. Actually no - only unrepentant Jews maybe...Christians on the other hand are under grace, not law. That means that 'everything is permissable, not everything is beneficial', they are saved cos of who they put their faith in, not what they do. However, they are clearly instructed not to do such things, and at the very least they would have to admit to 'not following their religion'. There are scriptures which suggest the whole salvation could be put in jeopardy by the kind of persistent wilful disobedience that swinging would involve, so you may have a point." Except the post you've quoted says that people can't swing and "truly believe in God". I'd go along with that you can't swing and "truly practice most of the mainstream religions to the letter of their teaching" but that's a different thing. | |||
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"The Bible says adultery and sex before marriage is wrong. There are countless verses saying it's wrong. It's immoral. I think many people say they believe in God. But if they truly believed. Believed there was a hell. Believed the Bible and everything in it. I don't think they would be a swinger. Because they would go to hell. To burn for eternity. Apparently. Actually no - only unrepentant Jews maybe...Christians on the other hand are under grace, not law. That means that 'everything is permissable, not everything is beneficial', they are saved cos of who they put their faith in, not what they do. However, they are clearly instructed not to do such things, and at the very least they would have to admit to 'not following their religion'. There are scriptures which suggest the whole salvation could be put in jeopardy by the kind of persistent wilful disobedience that swinging would involve, so you may have a point. Except the post you've quoted says that people can't swing and "truly believe in God". I'd go along with that you can't swing and "truly practice most of the mainstream religions to the letter of their teaching" but that's a different thing. " I couldn't agree more. | |||
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"I am many things. I am a wife and mother. I am a lover. I am a neighbour and a friend. I am a colleague and professional. I am a swinger and a Christian. Some people will mock and judge me. Some will question my ability or commitment. But that doesn't matter. I am who I am. " | |||
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"The Bible says adultery and sex before marriage is wrong. There are countless verses saying it's wrong. It's immoral. I think many people say they believe in God. But if they truly believed. Believed there was a hell. Believed the Bible and everything in it. I don't think they would be a swinger. Because they would go to hell. To burn for eternity. Apparently. Actually no - only unrepentant Jews maybe...Christians on the other hand are under grace, not law. That means that 'everything is permissable, not everything is beneficial', they are saved cos of who they put their faith in, not what they do. However, they are clearly instructed not to do such things, and at the very least they would have to admit to 'not following their religion'. There are scriptures which suggest the whole salvation could be put in jeopardy by the kind of persistent wilful disobedience that swinging would involve, so you may have a point. Except the post you've quoted says that people can't swing and "truly believe in God". I'd go along with that you can't swing and "truly practice most of the mainstream religions to the letter of their teaching" but that's a different thing. " I would go further because Christian teaching is unequivocal - 'don't do it' and it's fairly central. Yes, I agree you can believe of course, but you are no longer following, and there is a grey area there. | |||
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"The Bible says adultery and sex before marriage is wrong. There are countless verses saying it's wrong. It's immoral. I think many people say they believe in God. But if they truly believed. Believed there was a hell. Believed the Bible and everything in it. I don't think they would be a swinger. Because they would go to hell. To burn for eternity. Apparently. Actually no - only unrepentant Jews maybe...Christians on the other hand are under grace, not law. That means that 'everything is permissable, not everything is beneficial', they are saved cos of who they put their faith in, not what they do. However, they are clearly instructed not to do such things, and at the very least they would have to admit to 'not following their religion'. There are scriptures which suggest the whole salvation could be put in jeopardy by the kind of persistent wilful disobedience that swinging would involve, so you may have a point. Except the post you've quoted says that people can't swing and "truly believe in God". I'd go along with that you can't swing and "truly practice most of the mainstream religions to the letter of their teaching" but that's a different thing. I would go further because Christian teaching is unequivocal - 'don't do it' and it's fairly central. Yes, I agree you can believe of course, but you are no longer following, and there is a grey area there." It's not actually that central. Issues of sex and sexuality are peripheral to what most mainstream Christian churches focus on now. In my experience. | |||
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"The Bible says adultery and sex before marriage is wrong. There are countless verses saying it's wrong. It's immoral. I think many people say they believe in God. But if they truly believed. Believed there was a hell. Believed the Bible and everything in it. I don't think they would be a swinger. Because they would go to hell. To burn for eternity. Apparently. Actually no - only unrepentant Jews maybe...Christians on the other hand are under grace, not law. That means that 'everything is permissable, not everything is beneficial', they are saved cos of who they put their faith in, not what they do. However, they are clearly instructed not to do such things, and at the very least they would have to admit to 'not following their religion'. There are scriptures which suggest the whole salvation could be put in jeopardy by the kind of persistent wilful disobedience that swinging would involve, so you may have a point. Except the post you've quoted says that people can't swing and "truly believe in God". I'd go along with that you can't swing and "truly practice most of the mainstream religions to the letter of their teaching" but that's a different thing. I would go further because Christian teaching is unequivocal - 'don't do it' and it's fairly central. Yes, I agree you can believe of course, but you are no longer following, and there is a grey area there. It's not actually that central. Issues of sex and sexuality are peripheral to what most mainstream Christian churches focus on now. In my experience. " They may not talk about it, but it is central and unequivocal in scripture, the gospels, and church doctrine. | |||
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"I'm not religious in the slightest but wouldnt judge someone being Christian and swinging. If they live their life trying to do good it's got to be ok in my simplistic mind." I am not judging anyone - I am simply saying the practice is expressly forbidden in the religion. | |||
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"The Bible says adultery and sex before marriage is wrong. There are countless verses saying it's wrong. It's immoral. I think many people say they believe in God. But if they truly believed. Believed there was a hell. Believed the Bible and everything in it. I don't think they would be a swinger. Because they would go to hell. To burn for eternity. Apparently. Actually no - only unrepentant Jews maybe...Christians on the other hand are under grace, not law. That means that 'everything is permissable, not everything is beneficial', they are saved cos of who they put their faith in, not what they do. However, they are clearly instructed not to do such things, and at the very least they would have to admit to 'not following their religion'. There are scriptures which suggest the whole salvation could be put in jeopardy by the kind of persistent wilful disobedience that swinging would involve, so you may have a point. Except the post you've quoted says that people can't swing and "truly believe in God". I'd go along with that you can't swing and "truly practice most of the mainstream religions to the letter of their teaching" but that's a different thing. I would go further because Christian teaching is unequivocal - 'don't do it' and it's fairly central. Yes, I agree you can believe of course, but you are no longer following, and there is a grey area there. It's not actually that central. Issues of sex and sexuality are peripheral to what most mainstream Christian churches focus on now. In my experience. They may not talk about it, but it is central and unequivocal in scripture, the gospels, and church doctrine." Scripture, written two thousand or more years ago. The gospels, written two thousand years ago. Church doctrine, up to hundreds of years ago. Versus the texts, messages and sermons that the people actually practicing those religions choose to focus on. I've probably been to church about 10 times this year. I can't think of a single sermon, bible or gospel reading I've heard in that time that's dealt with issues of sex or sexuality. | |||
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"I do. I don't have to explain how it 'works', it's just something I like to do sometimes. I haven't been struck by lightning yet and no one sings kumbaya. your going to hell, your book/bible says so " And that's why you go confession!! | |||
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" They may not talk about it, but it is central and unequivocal in scripture, the gospels, and church doctrine. Scripture, written two thousand or more years ago. The gospels, written two thousand years ago. Church doctrine, up to hundreds of years ago. Versus the texts, messages and sermons that the people actually practicing those religions choose to focus on. I've probably been to church about 10 times this year. I can't think of a single sermon, bible or gospel reading I've heard in that time that's dealt with issues of sex or sexuality. " So maybe you missed them, or maybe the church you are going to chooses to avoid the subject for some reason, but I assure you it is still 100% the position of the vast majority of the Christian church that promiscuity of all kinds is expressly against Christian doctrine. | |||
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"how does that work ? one day your on your back spreading your legs for some random stranger you met on this site the next day your sat there singing kumbaya my lord Religious folk are able to twist and turn every word or phrase in their instruction manuals until the words mean exactly what they want them to mean. They've been doing it for a couple of thousand years now, so it's quite easy to do." very true | |||
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" They may not talk about it, but it is central and unequivocal in scripture, the gospels, and church doctrine. Scripture, written two thousand or more years ago. The gospels, written two thousand years ago. Church doctrine, up to hundreds of years ago. Versus the texts, messages and sermons that the people actually practicing those religions choose to focus on. I've probably been to church about 10 times this year. I can't think of a single sermon, bible or gospel reading I've heard in that time that's dealt with issues of sex or sexuality. So maybe you missed them, or maybe the church you are going to chooses to avoid the subject for some reason, but I assure you it is still 100% the position of the vast majority of the Christian church that promiscuity of all kinds is expressly against Christian doctrine." I'm not disputing that. But I'm saying that this isn't the area that most of the people who actually practice or teach that religion focus on anymore. It's not about picking and choosing, or hypocrisy, it's about what's regarded as most relevant to the society we live in now. Unless I've just found an unfeasibly liberal Catholic Church. | |||
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"I am a christian. I dont go to church and I dont follow the bible to the full. I am single and got no sins, but the bible do say few things about married couples who swing " But you're having sex outside of marriage? | |||
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"The Bible says adultery and sex before marriage is wrong. There are countless verses saying it's wrong. It's immoral. I think many people say they believe in God. But if they truly believed. Believed there was a hell. Believed the Bible and everything in it. I don't think they would be a swinger. Because they would go to hell. To burn for eternity. Apparently. Actually no - only unrepentant Jews maybe...Christians on the other hand are under grace, not law. That means that 'everything is permissable, not everything is beneficial', they are saved cos of who they put their faith in, not what they do. However, they are clearly instructed not to do such things, and at the very least they would have to admit to 'not following their religion'. There are scriptures which suggest the whole salvation could be put in jeopardy by the kind of persistent wilful disobedience that swinging would involve, so you may have a point. Except the post you've quoted says that people can't swing and "truly believe in God". I'd go along with that you can't swing and "truly practice most of the mainstream religions to the letter of their teaching" but that's a different thing. I would go further because Christian teaching is unequivocal - 'don't do it' and it's fairly central. Yes, I agree you can believe of course, but you are no longer following, and there is a grey area there. It's not actually that central. Issues of sex and sexuality are peripheral to what most mainstream Christian churches focus on now. In my experience. They may not talk about it, but it is central and unequivocal in scripture, the gospels, and church doctrine. Scripture, written two thousand or more years ago. The gospels, written two thousand years ago. Church doctrine, up to hundreds of years ago. Versus the texts, messages and sermons that the people actually practicing those religions choose to focus on. I've probably been to church about 10 times this year. I can't think of a single sermon, bible or gospel reading I've heard in that time that's dealt with issues of sex or sexuality. " so your saying lust isn't classed as a sin and adultery dam sure is | |||
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"The Bible says adultery and sex before marriage is wrong. There are countless verses saying it's wrong. It's immoral. I think many people say they believe in God. But if they truly believed. Believed there was a hell. Believed the Bible and everything in it. I don't think they would be a swinger. Because they would go to hell. To burn for eternity. Apparently. Actually no - only unrepentant Jews maybe...Christians on the other hand are under grace, not law. That means that 'everything is permissable, not everything is beneficial', they are saved cos of who they put their faith in, not what they do. However, they are clearly instructed not to do such things, and at the very least they would have to admit to 'not following their religion'. There are scriptures which suggest the whole salvation could be put in jeopardy by the kind of persistent wilful disobedience that swinging would involve, so you may have a point. Except the post you've quoted says that people can't swing and "truly believe in God". I'd go along with that you can't swing and "truly practice most of the mainstream religions to the letter of their teaching" but that's a different thing. I would go further because Christian teaching is unequivocal - 'don't do it' and it's fairly central. Yes, I agree you can believe of course, but you are no longer following, and there is a grey area there. It's not actually that central. Issues of sex and sexuality are peripheral to what most mainstream Christian churches focus on now. In my experience. They may not talk about it, but it is central and unequivocal in scripture, the gospels, and church doctrine. Scripture, written two thousand or more years ago. The gospels, written two thousand years ago. Church doctrine, up to hundreds of years ago. Versus the texts, messages and sermons that the people actually practicing those religions choose to focus on. I've probably been to church about 10 times this year. I can't think of a single sermon, bible or gospel reading I've heard in that time that's dealt with issues of sex or sexuality. so your saying lust isn't classed as a sin and adultery dam sure is " No. Read the words that I've actually written. | |||
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"The Bible says adultery and sex before marriage is wrong. There are countless verses saying it's wrong. It's immoral. I think many people say they believe in God. But if they truly believed. Believed there was a hell. Believed the Bible and everything in it. I don't think they would be a swinger. Because they would go to hell. To burn for eternity. Apparently. Actually no - only unrepentant Jews maybe...Christians on the other hand are under grace, not law. That means that 'everything is permissable, not everything is beneficial', they are saved cos of who they put their faith in, not what they do. However, they are clearly instructed not to do such things, and at the very least they would have to admit to 'not following their religion'. There are scriptures which suggest the whole salvation could be put in jeopardy by the kind of persistent wilful disobedience that swinging would involve, so you may have a point. Except the post you've quoted says that people can't swing and "truly believe in God". I'd go along with that you can't swing and "truly practice most of the mainstream religions to the letter of their teaching" but that's a different thing. I would go further because Christian teaching is unequivocal - 'don't do it' and it's fairly central. Yes, I agree you can believe of course, but you are no longer following, and there is a grey area there. It's not actually that central. Issues of sex and sexuality are peripheral to what most mainstream Christian churches focus on now. In my experience. They may not talk about it, but it is central and unequivocal in scripture, the gospels, and church doctrine. Scripture, written two thousand or more years ago. The gospels, written two thousand years ago. Church doctrine, up to hundreds of years ago. Versus the texts, messages and sermons that the people actually practicing those religions choose to focus on. I've probably been to church about 10 times this year. I can't think of a single sermon, bible or gospel reading I've heard in that time that's dealt with issues of sex or sexuality. " Personally, even though not religious, I think no church and its doctrines are a mirror to society. So, I beleive that if you profess to be religious then you follow what ever doctrine you particular church's preach and shouldn't "live" outside of it otherwise you're not religious, it's not a mixed bag of sweets that you can pick and choose from. | |||
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"Gotta laugh at some of the comments on here. If I'd have known religion was a pick 'n' mix I might have been tempted." best post so far! you blue peter badge is in the post | |||
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"I am a christian. I dont go to church and I dont follow the bible to the full. I am single and got no sins, but the bible do say few things about married couples who swing But you're having sex outside of marriage? " That would be cheating tho?. | |||
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" They may not talk about it, but it is central and unequivocal in scripture, the gospels, and church doctrine. Scripture, written two thousand or more years ago. The gospels, written two thousand years ago. Church doctrine, up to hundreds of years ago. Versus the texts, messages and sermons that the people actually practicing those religions choose to focus on. I've probably been to church about 10 times this year. I can't think of a single sermon, bible or gospel reading I've heard in that time that's dealt with issues of sex or sexuality. So maybe you missed them, or maybe the church you are going to chooses to avoid the subject for some reason, but I assure you it is still 100% the position of the vast majority of the Christian church that promiscuity of all kinds is expressly against Christian doctrine. I'm not disputing that. But I'm saying that this isn't the area that most of the people who actually practice or teach that religion focus on anymore. It's not about picking and choosing, or hypocrisy, it's about what's regarded as most relevant to the society we live in now. Unless I've just found an unfeasibly liberal Catholic Church. " It may well be a liberal one where such things are brushed under the carpet and simply not addressed - that does happen a lot. Hell fire and damnation is not too popular nowadays either I understand! | |||
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"The Bible says adultery and sex before marriage is wrong. There are countless verses saying it's wrong. It's immoral. I think many people say they believe in God. But if they truly believed. Believed there was a hell. Believed the Bible and everything in it. I don't think they would be a swinger. Because they would go to hell. To burn for eternity. Apparently. Actually no - only unrepentant Jews maybe...Christians on the other hand are under grace, not law. That means that 'everything is permissable, not everything is beneficial', they are saved cos of who they put their faith in, not what they do. However, they are clearly instructed not to do such things, and at the very least they would have to admit to 'not following their religion'. There are scriptures which suggest the whole salvation could be put in jeopardy by the kind of persistent wilful disobedience that swinging would involve, so you may have a point. Except the post you've quoted says that people can't swing and "truly believe in God". I'd go along with that you can't swing and "truly practice most of the mainstream religions to the letter of their teaching" but that's a different thing. I would go further because Christian teaching is unequivocal - 'don't do it' and it's fairly central. Yes, I agree you can believe of course, but you are no longer following, and there is a grey area there. It's not actually that central. Issues of sex and sexuality are peripheral to what most mainstream Christian churches focus on now. In my experience. They may not talk about it, but it is central and unequivocal in scripture, the gospels, and church doctrine. Scripture, written two thousand or more years ago. The gospels, written two thousand years ago. Church doctrine, up to hundreds of years ago. Versus the texts, messages and sermons that the people actually practicing those religions choose to focus on. I've probably been to church about 10 times this year. I can't think of a single sermon, bible or gospel reading I've heard in that time that's dealt with issues of sex or sexuality. Personally, even though not religious, I think no church and its doctrines are a mirror to society. So, I beleive that if you profess to be religious then you follow what ever doctrine you particular church's preach and shouldn't "live" outside of it otherwise you're not religious, it's not a mixed bag of sweets that you can pick and choose from." So the example I gave earlier about my church expressly welcoming people of all sexualities. Should that priest no longer be able to call himself a catholic priest? | |||
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"The Bible says adultery and sex before marriage is wrong. There are countless verses saying it's wrong. It's immoral. I think many people say they believe in God. But if they truly believed. Believed there was a hell. Believed the Bible and everything in it. I don't think they would be a swinger. Because they would go to hell. To burn for eternity. Apparently. Actually no - only unrepentant Jews maybe...Christians on the other hand are under grace, not law. That means that 'everything is permissable, not everything is beneficial', they are saved cos of who they put their faith in, not what they do. However, they are clearly instructed not to do such things, and at the very least they would have to admit to 'not following their religion'. There are scriptures which suggest the whole salvation could be put in jeopardy by the kind of persistent wilful disobedience that swinging would involve, so you may have a point. Except the post you've quoted says that people can't swing and "truly believe in God". I'd go along with that you can't swing and "truly practice most of the mainstream religions to the letter of their teaching" but that's a different thing. I would go further because Christian teaching is unequivocal - 'don't do it' and it's fairly central. Yes, I agree you can believe of course, but you are no longer following, and there is a grey area there. It's not actually that central. Issues of sex and sexuality are peripheral to what most mainstream Christian churches focus on now. In my experience. They may not talk about it, but it is central and unequivocal in scripture, the gospels, and church doctrine. Scripture, written two thousand or more years ago. The gospels, written two thousand years ago. Church doctrine, up to hundreds of years ago. Versus the texts, messages and sermons that the people actually practicing those religions choose to focus on. I've probably been to church about 10 times this year. I can't think of a single sermon, bible or gospel reading I've heard in that time that's dealt with issues of sex or sexuality. so your saying lust isn't classed as a sin and adultery dam sure is No. Read the words that I've actually written. " nah it's easier and much more fun to poke fun at your loos faith | |||
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"The Bible says adultery and sex before marriage is wrong. There are countless verses saying it's wrong. It's immoral. I think many people say they believe in God. But if they truly believed. Believed there was a hell. Believed the Bible and everything in it. I don't think they would be a swinger. Because they would go to hell. To burn for eternity. Apparently. Actually no - only unrepentant Jews maybe...Christians on the other hand are under grace, not law. That means that 'everything is permissable, not everything is beneficial', they are saved cos of who they put their faith in, not what they do. However, they are clearly instructed not to do such things, and at the very least they would have to admit to 'not following their religion'. There are scriptures which suggest the whole salvation could be put in jeopardy by the kind of persistent wilful disobedience that swinging would involve, so you may have a point. Except the post you've quoted says that people can't swing and "truly believe in God". I'd go along with that you can't swing and "truly practice most of the mainstream religions to the letter of their teaching" but that's a different thing. I would go further because Christian teaching is unequivocal - 'don't do it' and it's fairly central. Yes, I agree you can believe of course, but you are no longer following, and there is a grey area there. It's not actually that central. Issues of sex and sexuality are peripheral to what most mainstream Christian churches focus on now. In my experience. They may not talk about it, but it is central and unequivocal in scripture, the gospels, and church doctrine. Scripture, written two thousand or more years ago. The gospels, written two thousand years ago. Church doctrine, up to hundreds of years ago. Versus the texts, messages and sermons that the people actually practicing those religions choose to focus on. I've probably been to church about 10 times this year. I can't think of a single sermon, bible or gospel reading I've heard in that time that's dealt with issues of sex or sexuality. so your saying lust isn't classed as a sin and adultery dam sure is No. Read the words that I've actually written. " Ruby...I'd love to reply privately to you, but your filters won't let me. Be happy with who you are, and don't let the op bait you. He seems to be looking for an argument. You don't need to let anyone judge you. Life, people, and faith, are complicated enough. Lisa xxx | |||
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"Gotta laugh at some of the comments on here. If I'd have known religion was a pick 'n' mix I might have been tempted." My school chaplain made a similar point years ago - that you didn't get pic and choose the beliefs you do and don't like. | |||
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"how does that work ? one day your on your back spreading your legs for some random stranger you met on this site the next day your sat there singing kumbaya my lord Religious folk are able to twist and turn every word or phrase in their instruction manuals until the words mean exactly what they want them to mean. They've been doing it for a couple of thousand years now, so it's quite easy to do. Just like everyone else. True, but non-religious folk don't have the "book" to hide behind, or use to justify their actions. Personally, I think the bad of religion outweighs the good." Again you are assuming Christians use a book to justify things. I don't assume agnostics or atheists use science to justify their choices. | |||
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"The Bible says adultery and sex before marriage is wrong. There are countless verses saying it's wrong. It's immoral. I think many people say they believe in God. But if they truly believed. Believed there was a hell. Believed the Bible and everything in it. I don't think they would be a swinger. Because they would go to hell. To burn for eternity. Apparently. Actually no - only unrepentant Jews maybe...Christians on the other hand are under grace, not law. That means that 'everything is permissable, not everything is beneficial', they are saved cos of who they put their faith in, not what they do. However, they are clearly instructed not to do such things, and at the very least they would have to admit to 'not following their religion'. There are scriptures which suggest the whole salvation could be put in jeopardy by the kind of persistent wilful disobedience that swinging would involve, so you may have a point. Except the post you've quoted says that people can't swing and "truly believe in God". I'd go along with that you can't swing and "truly practice most of the mainstream religions to the letter of their teaching" but that's a different thing. I would go further because Christian teaching is unequivocal - 'don't do it' and it's fairly central. Yes, I agree you can believe of course, but you are no longer following, and there is a grey area there. It's not actually that central. Issues of sex and sexuality are peripheral to what most mainstream Christian churches focus on now. In my experience. They may not talk about it, but it is central and unequivocal in scripture, the gospels, and church doctrine. Scripture, written two thousand or more years ago. The gospels, written two thousand years ago. Church doctrine, up to hundreds of years ago. Versus the texts, messages and sermons that the people actually practicing those religions choose to focus on. I've probably been to church about 10 times this year. I can't think of a single sermon, bible or gospel reading I've heard in that time that's dealt with issues of sex or sexuality. so your saying lust isn't classed as a sin and adultery dam sure is No. Read the words that I've actually written. Ruby...I'd love to reply privately to you, but your filters won't let me. Be happy with who you are, and don't let the op bait you. He seems to be looking for an argument. You don't need to let anyone judge you. Life, people, and faith, are complicated enough. Lisa xxx" not bating her I just find it funny and if she is a true believe and believes what the bible says she's going to hell | |||
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" nah it's easier and much more fun to poke fun at your loos faith " Which religion does my toilet subscribe to? | |||
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"The Bible says adultery and sex before marriage is wrong. There are countless verses saying it's wrong. It's immoral. I think many people say they believe in God. But if they truly believed. Believed there was a hell. Believed the Bible and everything in it. I don't think they would be a swinger. Because they would go to hell. To burn for eternity. Apparently. Actually no - only unrepentant Jews maybe...Christians on the other hand are under grace, not law. That means that 'everything is permissable, not everything is beneficial', they are saved cos of who they put their faith in, not what they do. However, they are clearly instructed not to do such things, and at the very least they would have to admit to 'not following their religion'. There are scriptures which suggest the whole salvation could be put in jeopardy by the kind of persistent wilful disobedience that swinging would involve, so you may have a point. Except the post you've quoted says that people can't swing and "truly believe in God". I'd go along with that you can't swing and "truly practice most of the mainstream religions to the letter of their teaching" but that's a different thing. I would go further because Christian teaching is unequivocal - 'don't do it' and it's fairly central. Yes, I agree you can believe of course, but you are no longer following, and there is a grey area there. It's not actually that central. Issues of sex and sexuality are peripheral to what most mainstream Christian churches focus on now. In my experience. They may not talk about it, but it is central and unequivocal in scripture, the gospels, and church doctrine. Scripture, written two thousand or more years ago. The gospels, written two thousand years ago. Church doctrine, up to hundreds of years ago. Versus the texts, messages and sermons that the people actually practicing those religions choose to focus on. I've probably been to church about 10 times this year. I can't think of a single sermon, bible or gospel reading I've heard in that time that's dealt with issues of sex or sexuality. so your saying lust isn't classed as a sin and adultery dam sure is No. Read the words that I've actually written. Ruby...I'd love to reply privately to you, but your filters won't let me. Be happy with who you are, and don't let the op bait you. He seems to be looking for an argument. You don't need to let anyone judge you. Life, people, and faith, are complicated enough. Lisa xxx" Thanks, and don't worry I'm perfectly comfortable with me. I just find it odd the way everyone is telling me that I can't be this, or that. I take the approach of listening to people who are living the situation they are in and respecting their take on it, not standing on the outside telling them they are wrong. It's rather like me lecturing someone about their children, when I have none myself. Or telling everyone what it's like to be homeless, while having no experience of that. | |||
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" nah it's easier and much more fun to poke fun at your loos faith Which religion does my toilet subscribe to?" oh I made a typo how funny hahaha but I'll answer your question...probably Satan's if your sitting on it | |||
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"I do. I don't have to explain how it 'works', it's just something I like to do sometimes. I haven't been struck by lightning yet and no one sings kumbaya." God Bless You My Child | |||
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"I am a christian. I dont go to church and I dont follow the bible to the full. I am single and got no sins, but the bible do say few things about married couples who swing But you're having sex outside of marriage? That would be cheating tho?." I know what you meant now and yes, that would be fine, as singles just shag around. | |||
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" No, op. You're just behaving like an imature knob. people can have their beliefs and live how they see fit, trying to do good and not harming anyone. Your posts are intended to be hurtful. Who is the worse person?" I'm just going by what it says in the bible | |||
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"Not seen the other posts op - but I was a regular Churchgoer until I started swinging - a Sunday school teacher in fact! After I first attended a club and carried out a couple of fantasies (mff and mmf) I had a huge amount of guilt when I next attended church! The bible links morality with sex at every level! Unless you have one on one, heterosexual sex within marriage then you are committing a major sin and are inherently 'bad' (interestingly, men at that time could have hundreds of wives (if they could afford them) - so it was only women who were expected to be monogamous - usually to a husband they didn't choose!) As I was already questioning my faith (always had major issues with the bible's homophobia, for instance, and the huge amount of damage/grief this has subsequently (and still does) cause! ) I decided that I couldn't marry swinging and church and chose swinging! I now have faith in 'a god' but not the judgemental God of the bible who links sex so inextricably with immorality and sin! I believe you can be a good person and shag someone different every day - the bible, the church and most of society would disagree with me there! " This | |||
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"The Bible says adultery and sex before marriage is wrong. There are countless verses saying it's wrong. It's immoral. I think many people say they believe in God. But if they truly believed. Believed there was a hell. Believed the Bible and everything in it. I don't think they would be a swinger. Because they would go to hell. To burn for eternity. Apparently. Actually no - only unrepentant Jews maybe...Christians on the other hand are under grace, not law. That means that 'everything is permissable, not everything is beneficial', they are saved cos of who they put their faith in, not what they do. However, they are clearly instructed not to do such things, and at the very least they would have to admit to 'not following their religion'. There are scriptures which suggest the whole salvation could be put in jeopardy by the kind of persistent wilful disobedience that swinging would involve, so you may have a point. Except the post you've quoted says that people can't swing and "truly believe in God". I'd go along with that you can't swing and "truly practice most of the mainstream religions to the letter of their teaching" but that's a different thing. I would go further because Christian teaching is unequivocal - 'don't do it' and it's fairly central. Yes, I agree you can believe of course, but you are no longer following, and there is a grey area there. It's not actually that central. Issues of sex and sexuality are peripheral to what most mainstream Christian churches focus on now. In my experience. They may not talk about it, but it is central and unequivocal in scripture, the gospels, and church doctrine. Scripture, written two thousand or more years ago. The gospels, written two thousand years ago. Church doctrine, up to hundreds of years ago. Versus the texts, messages and sermons that the people actually practicing those religions choose to focus on. I've probably been to church about 10 times this year. I can't think of a single sermon, bible or gospel reading I've heard in that time that's dealt with issues of sex or sexuality. Personally, even though not religious, I think no church and its doctrines are a mirror to society. So, I beleive that if you profess to be religious then you follow what ever doctrine you particular church's preach and shouldn't "live" outside of it otherwise you're not religious, it's not a mixed bag of sweets that you can pick and choose from. So the example I gave earlier about my church expressly welcoming people of all sexualities. Should that priest no longer be able to call himself a catholic priest? " I don't know the catholic church's doctrine intimately but if a person is advocating a different doctrine then no. Surely if the church was right in the first place then the person should follow the church and not the church alter to accommodate the person? | |||
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"I started going in 2014 (used to go to the boys church service and christingle before that) but after the worst year of my life I stopped going. It is something I like doing though, I like the community feel, having a good old sing song, I can't explain it G x Do what makes you feel happy " I say this regularly I only want to see geeky being happy Ads | |||
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"I am a christian. I dont go to church and I dont follow the bible to the full. I am single and got no sins, but the bible do say few things about married couples who swing But you're having sex outside of marriage? That would be cheating tho?.I know what you meant now and yes, that would be fine, as singles just shag around." Yes but that's still sex with someone who isn't your spouse. It's still the sin of fornication. Not that I'm that bothered, just that if I'm going to hell I'm dragging you with me | |||
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"Some people would look intelligent saying nothing, instead of speaking and looking simple! Armistice day has only just gone, we remembered those that fought to keep us free and safe, the ability to make decisions, multiple faiths fought and flew side by side to keep us free and give us the right to choose. So before you judge, think of relatives of yours that died to give us the freedom of choice, was it in vain? Don't judge, you ask a question then ridicule people, you are small minded!" I've ridiculed no one and not judging I'm going by what the bible said so I'm questioning their faith is all try to keep up or go sit at the kids table | |||
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"how does that work ? one day your on your back spreading your legs for some random stranger you met on this site the next day your sat there singing kumbaya my lord Religious folk are able to twist and turn every word or phrase in their instruction manuals until the words mean exactly what they want them to mean. They've been doing it for a couple of thousand years now, so it's quite easy to do. Just like everyone else. True, but non-religious folk don't have the "book" to hide behind, or use to justify their actions. Personally, I think the bad of religion outweighs the good. Again you are assuming Christians use a book to justify things. I don't assume agnostics or atheists use science to justify their choices." The basis of all major religions is a book written by humans. Everything else about the particular religion comes from interpretations made by other humans. Then, other humans come along and add their twist to the plot. Two thousand years later you have a Chinese whispers scenario that is always correct, in the eyes of the person who believes it. Knee-benders are twisty turny folk. | |||
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"Some people would look intelligent saying nothing, instead of speaking and looking simple! Armistice day has only just gone, we remembered those that fought to keep us free and safe, the ability to make decisions, multiple faiths fought and flew side by side to keep us free and give us the right to choose. So before you judge, think of relatives of yours that died to give us the freedom of choice, was it in vain? Don't judge, you ask a question then ridicule people, you are small minded! I've ridiculed no one and not judging I'm going by what the bible said so I'm questioning their faith is all try to keep up or go sit at the kids table " I didn't mention names! | |||
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" your going to hell, your book/bible says so " So by that logic, will all the soldiers who are Christian be there too? And some law enforcement officers too? | |||
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"The Bible says adultery and sex before marriage is wrong. There are countless verses saying it's wrong. It's immoral. I think many people say they believe in God. But if they truly believed. Believed there was a hell. Believed the Bible and everything in it. I don't think they would be a swinger. Because they would go to hell. To burn for eternity. Apparently. That is right and as well if someone is not straight." Does that mean I'm going to Hell, Shag? | |||
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"I am a christian. I dont go to church and I dont follow the bible to the full. I am single and got no sins, but the bible do say few things about married couples who swing But you're having sex outside of marriage? That would be cheating tho?.I know what you meant now and yes, that would be fine, as singles just shag around. Yes but that's still sex with someone who isn't your spouse. It's still the sin of fornication. Not that I'm that bothered, just that if I'm going to hell I'm dragging you with me " It is fine to have sex with others if you are single tho, so cant see how it is a sin, alhough, for a married couple, it would be | |||
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"I am a christian. I dont go to church and I dont follow the bible to the full. I am single and got no sins, but the bible do say few things about married couples who swing But you're having sex outside of marriage? That would be cheating tho?.I know what you meant now and yes, that would be fine, as singles just shag around. Yes but that's still sex with someone who isn't your spouse. It's still the sin of fornication. Not that I'm that bothered, just that if I'm going to hell I'm dragging you with me It is fine to have sex with others if you are single tho, so cant see how it is a sin, alhough, for a married couple, it would be " It's a sin for singles to have sex too, Shag. Married, straight and in the missionary position only. | |||
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"how does that work ? one day your on your back spreading your legs for some random stranger you met on this site the next day your sat there singing kumbaya my lord " Actually a good question but could of been a little more diplomatic. | |||
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"how does that work ? one day your on your back spreading your legs for some random stranger you met on this site the next day your sat there singing kumbaya my lord Actually a good question but could of been a little more diplomatic. " true | |||
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"I am a christian. I dont go to church and I dont follow the bible to the full. I am single and got no sins, but the bible do say few things about married couples who swing But you're having sex outside of marriage? That would be cheating tho?.I know what you meant now and yes, that would be fine, as singles just shag around. Yes but that's still sex with someone who isn't your spouse. It's still the sin of fornication. Not that I'm that bothered, just that if I'm going to hell I'm dragging you with me It is fine to have sex with others if you are single tho, so cant see how it is a sin, alhough, for a married couple, it would be It's a sin for singles to have sex too, Shag. Married, straight and in the missionary position only. " The missionary position is a good one to have it in too | |||
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"I am a christian. I dont go to church and I dont follow the bible to the full. I am single and got no sins, but the bible do say few things about married couples who swing But you're having sex outside of marriage? That would be cheating tho?.I know what you meant now and yes, that would be fine, as singles just shag around. Yes but that's still sex with someone who isn't your spouse. It's still the sin of fornication. Not that I'm that bothered, just that if I'm going to hell I'm dragging you with me It is fine to have sex with others if you are single tho, so cant see how it is a sin, alhough, for a married couple, it would be It's a sin for singles to have sex too, Shag. Married, straight and in the missionary position only. The missionary position is a good one to have it in too " Sorry Shag, just to recap on something you said earlier... I'm not straight. Does that mean I'm going to Hell? | |||
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"I am a christian. I dont go to church and I dont follow the bible to the full. I am single and got no sins, but the bible do say few things about married couples who swing But you're having sex outside of marriage? That would be cheating tho?.I know what you meant now and yes, that would be fine, as singles just shag around. Yes but that's still sex with someone who isn't your spouse. It's still the sin of fornication. Not that I'm that bothered, just that if I'm going to hell I'm dragging you with me It is fine to have sex with others if you are single tho, so cant see how it is a sin, alhough, for a married couple, it would be It's a sin for singles to have sex too, Shag. Married, straight and in the missionary position only. The missionary position is a good one to have it in too Sorry Shag, just to recap on something you said earlier... I'm not straight. Does that mean I'm going to Hell? " And no, no you wouldnt there. | |||
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"It always amazes me on these discussions that if someone says they follow a religion they are expected to justify themselves. In any other personal decision that's legal, if someone asked you to justify it the accepted answer would be fuck off. None of us hold the moral high ground and no one has the right to ridicule someone's standpoint." | |||
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