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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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how do you feel about it.
what if it was someone close to you, could you make the decision to take them to a clinic abroad to end their suffering.
do you think people should have the right to end their life if they choose instead of slowly fading away as the condition gets worse.
its not easy for anyone to choose to bring things to an end and family,loved ones are always left behind.
but what if it was you that was unwell and you knew that in a few years time your be a burden on your family.
and your quality of life would be almost zero.
could you continue? or would you prefer to be released from the pain.
your thoughts please. |
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Firstly im hoping neither myself or anyone close to me gets one of these horrendous illnesses. However, i know 100% i would help anyone close to me that wishes to not carry on in pain.
Its actually being portrayed really well in emmerdale at the moment
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I believe that every one is entitled to choose wether to live or die. Some people have no quality of life, and are left to suffer and have a terrible death. If it was an animal we would put it down to save it from suffering, why cant it be the same for humans.
We should be allowed to have on our medical records if we believe in euthanasia, while we are in sound mind, so there can be not misunderstanding. |
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Yes I would help a loved one, I would have to respect their wishes.
If you kept an animal who was in lots of pain and could not be helped, you would be charged with cruelty. So you have it put down humanely. Why can't humans who want to end their suffering not have the same rights.
Yes I do want to end my own life when I can't take the pain anymore, or my quality of life is zero. I don't want my family to suffer watching me suffer, as I know what my last months will be like. Unless I get hit by a bus or something before hand!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I do agree with the right to have that choice but........
I cant ever imagine having to be the one who has to help.
I would go to pieces , i know i would.
And thats purely from a selfish point of veiw.
On the other hand, i have already said to my family that if i should ever get to the point of someone having to wipe my arse for me. I would do myself in.
Especially if its a family member having to do it.
My heart goes out to those having to make that decision and the person they ask to help |
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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago
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for conditions where pain and suffering are all that's left yes,but it's the thin end of the wedge.
for people over,90,for people over 80,for people over 70.
where does it end,who chooses.
relations,hmmm could be a financial incentive,medical profession,hmmm could be a financial incentive,the people themselves hmmmm,could be put under pressure,by all the above,for a financial incentive.
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I have actually been in the position, I was 21 / 22 at the time. My father was dying of cancer and had a bottle of diamorphine, clearly labeled 'FOR TERMINAL PATIENTS ONLY'. I knew what was going on, I was just turned 18 when I watched my mother rot away and die with cancer.
Apart form clearing up the mess as he was vomiting his internal organs the other thing was giving him medicine including the diamorphine 'as prescribed'. Then one day having given him his spoonful he said 'leave the bottle'. I thought about it for a short time and said, "Sorry, but I can't". It was only a few days later when he died.
I live with that decision and sleep perfectly well on it, I wouldn't change my decision. The thing is, at the time, he was not 'of sound mind' most of the time although he could have been for that moment in time.
On the day he died, about 12 hours before last breath he suddenly sat bolt upright in bed and said, "Yes, oh ok Dot I'll be with you soon" Yes you guessed it, Dot (Dorathy) was my mothers name, in his mind she had come to hold his hand and comfort him on the way. If I had left the bottle of poison I reckon he might have missed that experience and I believe regardless of any amount of pain he wouldn't have wanted to miss it.
All animals, including humans are preprogrammed to live, you'll never know what you might miss if you go early. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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That's a very powerful argument against euthanasia. I'm in two minds about it as one the one hand I agree with determining the time and place of your own death if that's what you want, but then on the other we have experiences as described above that make me feel euthanasia is wrong.
As it is such a complex issue I think there isn't even enough room to judge each case on it's merits and on that basis I don't think a change in the law to allow it would be the correct path to go down. Life is sacrosanct. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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if a person has mental capacity they should be able to make a choice, however if they i dont think it should be given the option to family/close friends to decide if the person hasn't got mental capacity |
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....an emotive subject but one that a 'mature society' needs to face with all the facts on the table befor making a decision perhaps via a rererendum?
which should be compulsory to assuage the various interest groups only participating |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I have actually been in the position, I was 21 / 22 at the time. My father was dying of cancer and had a bottle of diamorphine, clearly labeled 'FOR TERMINAL PATIENTS ONLY'. I knew what was going on, I was just turned 18 when I watched my mother rot away and die with cancer.
Apart form clearing up the mess as he was vomiting his internal organs the other thing was giving him medicine including the diamorphine 'as prescribed'. Then one day having given him his spoonful he said 'leave the bottle'. I thought about it for a short time and said, "Sorry, but I can't". It was only a few days later when he died.
I live with that decision and sleep perfectly well on it, I wouldn't change my decision. The thing is, at the time, he was not 'of sound mind' most of the time although he could have been for that moment in time.
On the day he died, about 12 hours before last breath he suddenly sat bolt upright in bed and said, "Yes, oh ok Dot I'll be with you soon" Yes you guessed it, Dot (Dorathy) was my mothers name, in his mind she had come to hold his hand and comfort him on the way. If I had left the bottle of poison I reckon he might have missed that experience and I believe regardless of any amount of pain he wouldn't have wanted to miss it.
All animals, including humans are preprogrammed to live, you'll never know what you might miss if you go early."
Bless you. That is so sincere. I watched my brother go through he same thing. There is nothing worse than seeing someone you love suffer.
I'm thinkin of you now. |
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Just over a year ago I watched my mother lose her battle with cancer. The numerous tumours didn’t kill her, not the one restricting blood flow from her lungs and making it a challenge (at best) to just breath, not the primary one on her cervix which was so large you could see the swelling externally, nor the ones in her liver and kidneys….the cancer didn’t actually kill her, but eventually would have if she hadn’t basically starved to death. If the choice had been available I would have no qualms about pushing the plunger on her morphine pump.
If my dad could see what he has become now, 12 months ago he’d have jabbed the needle in himself.
I, without any doubt, KNOW how I feel about euthanasia and the right for the terminally ill to choose how and when they say goodbye.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just over a year ago I watched my mother lose her battle with cancer. The numerous tumours didn’t kill her, not the one restricting blood flow from her lungs and making it a challenge (at best) to just breath, not the primary one on her cervix which was so large you could see the swelling externally, nor the ones in her liver and kidneys….the cancer didn’t actually kill her, but eventually would have if she hadn’t basically starved to death. If the choice had been available I would have no qualms about pushing the plunger on her morphine pump.
If my dad could see what he has become now, 12 months ago he’d have jabbed the needle in himself.
I, without any doubt, KNOW how I feel about euthanasia and the right for the terminally ill to choose how and when they say goodbye.
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totally agree my mum went through it. Watched her go from a healthy woman to just skin and bones. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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No man (or should that be person nowadays?) or institution has the right to tell me how to live or end my life.
I reserve the right as a free thinking individual to end it when/if I see fit.
Not that I want too. But honestly all these people that WILL commit suicide have to treat it like a dirty secret, leave a mess for someone to find AND probably scar some loved ones for life.
And euthanasia will have to becepted eventually! Keeping people alive with no quality of life is ridiculous, a living hell!!
Sorry for going on lol what im saying is yeh, the right to choose is ok by me! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yes and yes, my life may not be much but it's mine and I love it, would couldn't carry on living if I had something that would destroy my lifestyle and make living hard, more like existing |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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interested posts people.
i always told my mum that when the pain of her illness gets to much i'll put the pillow over her face and it will all be over.
got a nice place in the garden for her so its cheap all round.
just kidding, let me get my tin hat on lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I reserve the right as a free thinking individual to end it when/if I see fit.
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That's an admirable attitude but the practical problem, as I see it, is milking as much out of your life as is possible and still being capable of physically carrying out the final act. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"if a person has mental capacity they should be able to make a choice, however if they i dont think it should be given the option to family/close friends to decide if the person hasn't got mental capacity"
I am all for deciding for myself but really dislike the idea of deciding for someone else or someone else possibly deciding for me. oh no. Only the invididual whose life it is can decide this. |
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"if a person has mental capacity they should be able to make a choice, however if they i dont think it should be given the option to family/close friends to decide if the person hasn't got mental capacity
I am all for deciding for myself but really dislike the idea of deciding for someone else or someone else possibly deciding for me. oh no. Only the invididual whose life it is can decide this."
That may be why living wills have become more popular. Their legal standing is still questionable but at least it gives physicians an idea of how the patient might want their life to end.
Decide when you're capable so someone else doesn't have to when you're not. |
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