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By *risky_Mare OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Wait for France, Austria and others in 2017.....they now have powerful precedents to go down the path of full-blown fascism.
Dark days."
Yeah, some kind of bizarre zeitgeist going on, I am actually a fascinated observer as well as a concerned individual. |
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By *risky_Mare OP Woman
over a year ago
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"I'm waiting for the new golf course he is going to build.
I imagine it is going to be members only!  "
I have a feeling a lot of what he wants to do will just be blocked though - if they can bog down someone as brilliant as Obama I'm sure they can curtail an idiot like Trump, surely? |
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"I'm waiting for the new golf course he is going to build.
I imagine it is going to be members only!
I have a feeling a lot of what he wants to do will just be blocked though - if they can bog down someone as brilliant as Obama I'm sure they can curtail an idiot like Trump, surely?"
Yes I do believe the American system has all sorts of checks and balances to prevent the abuse of presidential power. It's a double edged sword but let's hope it cuts the right way. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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They have control of all 3 arms of parliament.
Remember everyone in the party went against him...and he still won.
This is now going to turn into gift politics. The senior party members will want it and if so...they will have to dance to his tune |
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By *risky_Mare OP Woman
over a year ago
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"They have control of all 3 arms of parliament.
Remember everyone in the party went against him...and he still won.
This is now going to turn into gift politics. The senior party members will want it and if so...they will have to dance to his tune"
Gift politics? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm waiting for the new golf course he is going to build.
I imagine it is going to be members only!
I have a feeling a lot of what he wants to do will just be blocked though - if they can bog down someone as brilliant as Obama I'm sure they can curtail an idiot like Trump, surely?"
That could be the case except his party also has control of congress, making things a little easier for him with regards to some of his crazy plans |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Yes...he will want certain things pushing through and certain people will want things which they are happy to sell their souls for.
Yes Minister...jobs for the boys displayed it perfectly...Sir Humphrey Applyby displayed it perfectly |
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By *risky_Mare OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Wait for France, Austria and others in 2017.....they now have powerful precedents to go down the path of full-blown fascism.
Dark days."
I was thinking watching the news - I wonder what the underlying zeitgeist is?? I do not believe the rank and file are fascists - but they ARE expressing something which people like Trump and Farage can take advantage of.
I reckon it is something like:
1 I do not feel secure or confident about my future
2 The powers that be are getting on with their own agenda and not listening to me or doing my will.
I reckon a large proportion of the western world feels the same - maybe the cognoscenti underestimated the masses. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I swear this year is just one big April fools day!! I saw on facefuck earlier some woman who thinks she is household furniture, then their was the girl who thought she was giving birth to Jesus last week!!!
G x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"People are finally giving up on PC BS and the hand-wringing brigade"
That is right and that is the only way a country can prosper as it is ok to say whats wrong without being labelled.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm waiting for the new golf course he is going to build.
I imagine it is going to be members only!
I have a feeling a lot of what he wants to do will just be blocked though - if they can bog down someone as brilliant as Obama I'm sure they can curtail an idiot like Trump, surely?"
They are idiots too though so will let Trump do as he pleases. He will undo everything Obama did. Obama's legacy, for the little there is of it, will be wiped out!  |
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It was always a large VAT and put it on the slate Dave, at The Winchester.
And anyway, wassisname in America is a businessman.Land of the free. Free enterprise. Could be a nice little earner, Terry!
Unless the lockup is full of Clinton for president merchandise. That might be hard to shift.
All legit Mr Chisholm. All legit. |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
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"I'm waiting for the new golf course he is going to build.
I imagine it is going to be members only!
I have a feeling a lot of what he wants to do will just be blocked though - if they can bog down someone as brilliant as Obama I'm sure they can curtail an idiot like Trump, surely?
They are idiots too though so will let Trump do as he pleases. He will undo everything Obama did. Obama's legacy, for the little there is of it, will be wiped out! "
But you will be there to show the stupid little man the error of his ways  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Wait for France, Austria and others in 2017.....they now have powerful precedents to go down the path of full-blown fascism.
Dark days.
I was thinking watching the news - I wonder what the underlying zeitgeist is?? I do not believe the rank and file are fascists - but they ARE expressing something which people like Trump and Farage can take advantage of.
I reckon it is something like:
1 I do not feel secure or confident about my future
2 The powers that be are getting on with their own agenda and not listening to me or doing my will.
I reckon a large proportion of the western world feels the same - maybe the cognoscenti underestimated the masses."
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I think Barclays wrote a little paper awhile back showing investors where they expect politics to be going in the coming future..... Roughly speaking They expect long term instability and globalisation to stop, they say this has been coming for decades but was inevitably speeded up by the banking crises!!. |
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By *risky_Mare OP Woman
over a year ago
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I think Barclays wrote a little paper awhile back showing investors where they expect politics to be going in the coming future..... Roughly speaking They expect long term instability and globalisation to stop, they say this has been coming for decades but was inevitably speeded up by the banking crises!!."
Yes, I have long felt that the zeitgeist was about people wanting to be indentified with their own tribe or nation - the break up of the Baltic states and USSR, the reunification of Germany etc are a demonstration of this 'tide' to my mind.
If that is the spirit of the age then integration, federalisation and globalisation will inevitably fail.
I speak as an impartial observer.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm waiting for the new golf course he is going to build.
I imagine it is going to be members only!
I have a feeling a lot of what he wants to do will just be blocked though - if they can bog down someone as brilliant as Obama I'm sure they can curtail an idiot like Trump, surely?
They are idiots too though so will let Trump do as he pleases. He will undo everything Obama did. Obama's legacy, for the little there is of it, will be wiped out!
But you will be there to show the stupid little man the error of his ways "
I wish someone will Josie, I really hope someone will! |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
Wembley |
"I'm waiting for the new golf course he is going to build.
I imagine it is going to be members only!
I have a feeling a lot of what he wants to do will just be blocked though - if they can bog down someone as brilliant as Obama I'm sure they can curtail an idiot like Trump, surely?
They are idiots too though so will let Trump do as he pleases. He will undo everything Obama did. Obama's legacy, for the little there is of it, will be wiped out!
But you will be there to show the stupid little man the error of his ways
I wish someone will Josie, I really hope someone will! "
Let us leave it up to the majority who voted him in. Just as it was left up to the majority who voted Obama in. It is called democracy. It works when your man wins. It also works when your man looses |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think Barclays wrote a little paper awhile back showing investors where they expect politics to be going in the coming future..... Roughly speaking They expect long term instability and globalisation to stop, they say this has been coming for decades but was inevitably speeded up by the banking crises!!.
Yes, I have long felt that the zeitgeist was about people wanting to be indentified with their own tribe or nation - the break up of the Baltic states and USSR, the reunification of Germany etc are a demonstration of this 'tide' to my mind.
If that is the spirit of the age then integration, federalisation and globalisation will inevitably fail.
I speak as an impartial observer...."
. It's about global capitalism not globalism, we live by a system that not just relies on but positively feeds on greed, gluttony, wrath, sloth, envy, lust and pride.... Bearing that in mind I don't find it at all surprising that the system turns out those emotions wholesale ... We're beyond a system update, tweaking a bit here or there won't fix the problem.... we need an entirely new system!.... The question is what do you want this new system to produce, once you know that you can design a system that churns out that. |
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By *risky_Mare OP Woman
over a year ago
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I think Barclays wrote a little paper awhile back showing investors where they expect politics to be going in the coming future..... Roughly speaking They expect long term instability and globalisation to stop, they say this has been coming for decades but was inevitably speeded up by the banking crises!!.
Yes, I have long felt that the zeitgeist was about people wanting to be indentified with their own tribe or nation - the break up of the Baltic states and USSR, the reunification of Germany etc are a demonstration of this 'tide' to my mind.
If that is the spirit of the age then integration, federalisation and globalisation will inevitably fail.
I speak as an impartial observer..... It's about global capitalism not globalism, we live by a system that not just relies on but positively feeds on greed, gluttony, wrath, sloth, envy, lust and pride.... Bearing that in mind I don't find it at all surprising that the system turns out those emotions wholesale ... We're beyond a system update, tweaking a bit here or there won't fix the problem.... we need an entirely new system!.... The question is what do you want this new system to produce, once you know that you can design a system that churns out that."
Yes, I guess that is part of it...I am not convinced one can 'produce a new system' that goes against the zeitgeist tide though - they key, I reckon, is swimming with it. |
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