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"ooohhhh there goes Ohio" Yep. If he takes Florida...  | |||
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"Well somebody had to start it "There is another already going though. | |||
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"Well somebody had to start it
There is another already going though."The first one is full? Or am I missing something | |||
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"Well somebody had to start it
There is another already going though.
The first one is full?
Or am I missing something"Yes it is full but there was already another going alongside so now we have two again. | |||
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"What I don't understand is why California was not considered a key state when carries 50 electoral votes? That alone pushed Hilary into the lead ! I know it was likely to go to Clinton (though nothing is predicable in this election) but they hadn't mentioned the significance of California before? Anyone know why? " they don't count the democrat vote in CA they just weigh it | |||
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"basicallly clinton needs to win pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin and nevada to win.... confident about 3.... the worry is wisconsin...." I don't think she's gunna win. She'll get Pennsylvania, but the map just doesn't look good for her. So the republicans are retaining the Senate, Congress, will likely win the Presidency and with it the Supreme Court. I just don't know what the next 4 years are going to look like.  | |||
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"Well somebody had to start it
There is another already going though.
The first one is full?
Or am I missing something
Yes it is full but there was already another going alongside so now we have two again. "Colour me confused but the only threads I see is the original one that Fabio started, yours was the last comment before it filled, then this one was created as Pt 2 to replace it - or have I missed one? | |||
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"basicallly clinton needs to win pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin and nevada to win.... confident about 3.... the worry is wisconsin.... I don't think she's gunna win. She'll get Pennsylvania, but the map just doesn't look good for her. So the republicans are retaining the Senate, Congress, will likely win the Presidency and with it the Supreme Court. I just don't know what the next 4 years are going to look like. "4 years..... and bring on elizabeth warren.... | |||
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"basicallly clinton needs to win pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin and nevada to win.... confident about 3.... the worry is wisconsin.... I don't think she's gunna win. She'll get Pennsylvania, but the map just doesn't look good for her. So the republicans are retaining the Senate, Congress, will likely win the Presidency and with it the Supreme Court. I just don't know what the next 4 years are going to look like. "Not good for anyone who is not a WASP. Extremely bad for the Clintons and anyone who criticises the Pres or has upset him in the past, and not too hot for any young female who comes in contact with him. Not too good for the US economy either, the american people are about to get a rude awakening when they find out that the successful business man is actually a twice bankrupted crook and that they have mistaken the TV program 'Your Fired USA' for real life and that they have given a madman control of the largest nuclear arsenal in the world! For Europe and the rest of the Western world it looks particularly bleak. We will all get trade deals... Give Trump anything he wants or he will take it or allow his mate Vlad take it. Maybe we will get lucky and the Secret Service will get out the open presidential limo and take him for a ride through some of the Chicago projects, then on to Baltimore stopping off in Harlem before giving him a whistle stop tour of the west coast Hispanic slums of LA, San FranCisco and finishing up with a drive through San Dagio before a quick trip into Tijuana. | |||
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"What I don't understand is why California was not considered a key state when carries 50 electoral votes? That alone pushed Hilary into the lead ! I know it was likely to go to Clinton (though nothing is predicable in this election) but they hadn't mentioned the significance of California before? Anyone know why? they don't count the democrat vote in CA they just weigh it" Sorry but I don't understand | |||
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"I don't blame people voting Trump tbh. People are sick of the same political class all taking and not giving." So they opt for a billionaire who knows nothing of the American Middle Class, but a lot about reality TV. Someone whose used immigrants in his own businesses and avoided paying health benefits and minimum wage, but criticises immigration. Someone who degrades women, disabled people and LGBTQ. Someone who is going to slash taxes for the richest Americans. Yadda Yadda Yadda. They were stuck between a rock and a hard place, looks like they'll all get squeezed now. Scary times ahead. | |||
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"What I don't understand is why California was not considered a key state when carries 50 electoral votes? That alone pushed Hilary into the lead ! I know it was likely to go to Clinton (though nothing is predicable in this election) but they hadn't mentioned the significance of California before? Anyone know why? they don't count the democrat vote in CA they just weigh it Sorry but I don't understand" CA has always carried Democrats, the volume of votes for Dems is so substantial they may as well weigh them... | |||
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"I don't blame people voting Trump tbh. People are sick of the same political class all taking and not giving. So they opt for a billionaire who knows nothing of the American Middle Class, but a lot about reality TV. Someone whose used immigrants in his own businesses and avoided paying health benefits and minimum wage, but criticises immigration. Someone who degrades women, disabled people and LGBTQ. Someone who is going to slash taxes for the richest Americans. Yadda Yadda Yadda. They were stuck between a rock and a hard place, looks like they'll all get squeezed now. Scary times ahead. " Compared to Hilary and what she's done he's a bloody saint. She's done deals internationally that have benefited her financially. She's deleted emails and according to what was said earlier that's a crime because it was evidence and anyone else would be in prison now. Then she's recorded stating they should have rigged the vote in South Africa. And people want her in to run America. Donald ain't innocent in a lot of things but compared to her he's not that bad. Also it's shaken American olitics to its core. It let's the Clintons and Democrats know that the people they are supposed to represent are not happy. | |||
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"What I don't understand is why California was not considered a key state when carries 50 electoral votes? That alone pushed Hilary into the lead ! I know it was likely to go to Clinton (though nothing is predicable in this election) but they hadn't mentioned the significance of California before? Anyone know why? they don't count the democrat vote in CA they just weigh it Sorry but I don't understand" California is almost always a Democrat state. So they count the states that are mostly certain democrat or republican, and the real battle goes for the swing states. It's very similar to uk pass the post electoral system, where you know upfront many circunscriptions would never change... FL, MI, PA, WI are the ones holding hope from disaster now X | |||
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"I don't blame people voting Trump tbh. People are sick of the same political class all taking and not giving. So they opt for a billionaire who knows nothing of the American Middle Class, but a lot about reality TV. Someone whose used immigrants in his own businesses and avoided paying health benefits and minimum wage, but criticises immigration. Someone who degrades women, disabled people and LGBTQ. Someone who is going to slash taxes for the richest Americans. Yadda Yadda Yadda. They were stuck between a rock and a hard place, looks like they'll all get squeezed now. Scary times ahead. Compared to Hilary and what she's done he's a bloody saint. She's done deals internationally that have benefited her financially. She's deleted emails and according to what was said earlier that's a crime because it was evidence and anyone else would be in prison now. Then she's recorded stating they should have rigged the vote in South Africa. And people want her in to run America. Donald ain't innocent in a lot of things but compared to her he's not that bad. Also it's shaken American olitics to its core. It let's the Clintons and Democrats know that the people they are supposed to represent are not happy. " I don't disagree with a thing you've said. Hence my rock and a hard place analogy. | |||
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"I'm sure Theresa May has called him to congratulate him already! Her and Trump will be like the Maggie and Reagan love fest i grew up spewing at in the 80s. We're all screwed, which I know is why we're on Fab, but still..." Na... Thatcher may have been a harridan in her politics, but she had something very sexual about her that had I been older or her younger at the time I would have slipped her one (or 2) May is at best a harpy and I wouldn't touch her with a 10 ft barge pole! | |||
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"I don't blame people voting Trump tbh. People are sick of the same political class all taking and not giving. So they opt for a billionaire who knows nothing of the American Middle Class, but a lot about reality TV. Someone whose used immigrants in his own businesses and avoided paying health benefits and minimum wage, but criticises immigration. Someone who degrades women, disabled people and LGBTQ. Someone who is going to slash taxes for the richest Americans. Yadda Yadda Yadda. They were stuck between a rock and a hard place, looks like they'll all get squeezed now. Scary times ahead. Compared to Hilary and what she's done he's a bloody saint. She's done deals internationally that have benefited her financially. She's deleted emails and according to what was said earlier that's a crime because it was evidence and anyone else would be in prison now. Then she's recorded stating they should have rigged the vote in South Africa. And people want her in to run America. Donald ain't innocent in a lot of things but compared to her he's not that bad. Also it's shaken American olitics to its core. It let's the Clintons and Democrats know that the people they are supposed to represent are not happy. I don't disagree with a thing you've said. Hence my rock and a hard place analogy. " It's good for the western world it's good for us. Though we still have some very deluded politicians like Sturgeon and that dude who challenged Corbyn. Hopefully the MPs here will wake up and start to realise they've got to start representing us rather then themselves. | |||
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"I'm sure Theresa May has called him to congratulate him already! Her and Trump will be like the Maggie and Reagan love fest i grew up spewing at in the 80s. We're all screwed, which I know is why we're on Fab, but still... Na... Thatcher may have been a harridan in her politics, but she had something very sexual about her that had I been older or her younger at the time I would have slipped her one (or 2) May is at best a harpy and I wouldn't touch her with a 10 ft barge pole! " I just puked a bit in my mouth lol That's just because I hated Thatcher... | |||
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"I'm trying so hard to understand how this is all happening. First Brexit, now this "The world has gone crazy, nuts, mental! | |||
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OMFG Kay Burley just asked someone wearing a kippot (Jewish head covering) what religion he was
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"I just puked a bit in my mouth lol That's just because I hated Thatcher... " But if you had 1979 Thatcher on all fours naked in front of you now, you would, wouldn't you? Maybe hard and fast up the arse just to make her squeal... But you would... 
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"I just puked a bit in my mouth lol That's just because I hated Thatcher... But if you had 1979 Thatcher on all fours naked in front of you now, you would, wouldn't you? Maybe hard and fast up the arse just to make her squeal... But you would...
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"It's all over bar the shouting. I'm off to bed. Fuck 2016." I'm with you on that | |||
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"I just puked a bit in my mouth lol That's just because I hated Thatcher... But if you had 1979 Thatcher on all fours naked in front of you now, you would, wouldn't you? Maybe hard and fast up the arse just to make her squeal... But you would...
"Nope, I was only 4! I would have jumped on her back and shouted "giddy up horsey!" | |||
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"I just puked a bit in my mouth lol That's just because I hated Thatcher... But if you had 1979 Thatcher on all fours naked in front of you now, you would, wouldn't you? Maybe hard and fast up the arse just to make her squeal... But you would...
Nope, I was only 4! I would have jumped on her back and shouted "giddy up horsey!" "See I knew you would ride her! | |||
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"Fab, twitter, google, Facebook....all I'm seeing is people crying at the result...I can't help but think who's actually voting for this guy then "According to the exit polls white over 45s | |||
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"Fab, twitter, google, Facebook....all I'm seeing is people crying at the result...I can't help but think who's actually voting for this guy then "LOL!!! That's what I was thinking! Love him or loath him - you have to hand it to the guy! He has pulled off quite a trick! Zero political experience and yet the White House is about to get an interior decoration of gold leaf and Trump stamps all over! | |||
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"I just puked a bit in my mouth lol That's just because I hated Thatcher... But if you had 1979 Thatcher on all fours naked in front of you now, you would, wouldn't you? Maybe hard and fast up the arse just to make her squeal... But you would...
Nope, I was only 4! I would have jumped on her back and shouted "giddy up horsey!"
See I knew you would ride her!
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"Wonder how many are gonna wake up in the morning and think like brexit " fuck I voted for him but didn't think he would win " if he does of course " Na most will be wondering why Obama is still president as theyve never paid attention before, similar to the ones who thought we would leave Europe the next day. | |||
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"This is why I fear America! This is sich a wrong-headed decision! They go for the shoot-yer-mouth-off-from-the-hip braggart over the responsible candidate. They choose the racist over the woman! Not only that but the man who will move heaven and earth to put her in jail and Obama as well if he can. He is a white supremacist who has contempt for non-whites and non-Americans, who respects Putin! I mean, where does this political catastrophe end? And this is just the start! This is absolutely terrifying! This is the end of the world as we know it! " Responsible candidate?? You can't be on about Hilary who was responsible for government secrets she sent out via a normal email. Lol I do wonder about some people at times like this. | |||
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"Well, people wondered how the hell Hitler came to power! Well, now we've got new insight from a not unsimilar parallel in our own lifetime! In the now! "A bit extreme isn't it godwin? He'll do fuck all, he'll be kept in check by the folk that keep all their presidents in check. | |||
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"Fab, twitter, google, Facebook....all I'm seeing is people crying at the result...I can't help but think who's actually voting for this guy then
LOL!!! That's what I was thinking! Love him or loath him - you have to hand it to the guy! He has pulled off quite a trick! Zero political experience and yet the White House is about to get an interior decoration of gold leaf and Trump stamps all over! "I've been working nights and have followed the whole thing, thought from the start he would win. I'm going to buy a rather large bet on honey G winning the X factor today
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"I think the conclusion I draw is this: it has been said that neither Hillary or Trump are fit candidates to stand for President. I'm going to go further: the American people themselves are not fit people to vote in a democratic process to choose their political rulers. America needs to bin democracy and embrace dictatorship! And so does Britain. We have now had more than ample evidence this year that democratic electorates are ignorant and stupid and unfit to determine their future. Perhaps we need ultra-communist dictatorship North-Korean style. That may be the only satisfactory political solution the world over! " And then people wonder why Brexit happened and Trump happened when you read this nonsense from someone who clearly thinks he knows best. What's even more laughable is you've posted above about Hitler yet here you post about having a dictator in charge like Hitler. Pmsl. | |||
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"I just puked a bit in my mouth lol That's just because I hated Thatcher... But if you had 1979 Thatcher on all fours naked in front of you now, you would, wouldn't you? Maybe hard and fast up the arse just to make her squeal... But you would...
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"I think the conclusion I draw is this: it has been said that neither Hillary or Trump are fit candidates to stand for President. I'm going to go further: the American people themselves are not fit people to vote in a democratic process to choose their political rulers. America needs to bin democracy and embrace dictatorship! And so does Britain. We have now had more than ample evidence this year that democratic electorates are ignorant and stupid and unfit to determine their future. Perhaps we need ultra-communist dictatorship North-Korean style. That may be the only satisfactory political solution the world over! And then people wonder why Brexit happened and Trump happened when you read this nonsense from someone who clearly thinks he knows best. What's even more laughable is you've posted above about Hitler yet here you post about having a dictator in charge like Hitler. Pmsl." You correctly identify a major political dilemma with which I am wrestling in my mind. But Hitler wasn't communist. And Trump's politics is not entirely unfascist. | |||
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"It's all over bar the shouting. I'm off to bed. Fuck 2016." Yep. This year has been fucked! | |||
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"Fab, twitter, google, Facebook....all I'm seeing is people crying at the result...I can't help but think who's actually voting for this guy then
LOL!!! That's what I was thinking! Love him or loath him - you have to hand it to the guy! He has pulled off quite a trick! Zero political experience and yet the White House is about to get an interior decoration of gold leaf and Trump stamps all over!
I've been working nights and have followed the whole thing, thought from the start he would win.
I'm going to buy a rather large bet on honey G winning the X factor today
Might as well go for the hat trick of upset votes "Brilliant!! | |||
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"Well, people wondered how the hell Hitler came to power! Well, now we've got new insight from a not unsimilar parallel in our own lifetime! In the now!
A bit extreme isn't it godwin?
He'll do fuck all, he'll be kept in check by the folk that keep all their presidents in check."You deeply misjudge his ability to dictate his terms to others and to apply pressure. People around him are terrified of him. He's a maverick and totally unpredictable and uncontrollable. He has the type of ego which looks down on the intelligence of every other human. No-one will be able to tell him what to do! The mice cannot bell the cat! | |||
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"Well, people wondered how the hell Hitler came to power! Well, now we've got new insight from a not unsimilar parallel in our own lifetime! In the now!
A bit extreme isn't it godwin?
He'll do fuck all, he'll be kept in check by the folk that keep all their presidents in check.
You deeply misjudge his ability to dictate his terms to others and to apply pressure. People around him are terrified of him. He's a maverick and totally unpredictable and uncontrollable. He has the type of ego which looks down on the intelligence of every other human. No-one will be able to tell him what to do! The mice cannot bell the cat!
"You're very naive if you think he can do whatever he wants to do. He's got to get it voted through first. Something Obama could not handle. | |||
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"I wonder if he really truly believed he could win. " I think he did yes, but, I also suspect there will be a private pinch myself moment too. | |||
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"I wonder if he really truly believed he could win. " I honestly believe he did this as an ego trip without any thought to what happens *if* he won. | |||
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"The Clinton supporters would have been exactly the same." Jubilant probably. The other adjectives I used, not so much. | |||
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"I'm loving this, watching the bleading heart liberals turn into bleating heart liberals. This and BREXIT, excellent news! "I wouldn't be so jubilant if I were you. The markets round the world are tumbling as a result of this, in exactly the same way as the pound has been losing value since the brexit vote. Like it or not you and all those who are now celebrating Trumps win and the Brexit win are about to find out that you and they are just as vulnerable as the rest of us. The shame is you and they don't see it. | |||
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"I can't believe some of what I'm reading in here .so many people disconnected from the man on the street just like most of the politicians over here and in America are to .don't worry your pretty little heads people who ever wins in America which looks like Donald trump nothing will really change as the puppet masters behind the scenes will still be pulling the strings regardless of the puppet ." With the house and the senate filled with republicans. it looks really bad... | |||
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"I can't believe some of what I'm reading in here .so many people disconnected from the man on the street just like most of the politicians over here and in America are to .don't worry your pretty little heads people who ever wins in America which looks like Donald trump nothing will really change as the puppet masters behind the scenes will still be pulling the strings regardless of the puppet ." Shhhhh, don't spoil it for them! | |||
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"I don't blame people voting Trump tbh. People are sick of the same political class all taking and not giving." And then they vote for a businessman whose success has come from inherited wealth instead. People who are pissed off with feeling poor and disenfranchised, who have just voted to make themselves poorer and more disenfranchised, lose any sympathy from me. They deserve everything they get. | |||
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"I'm loving this, watching the bleading heart liberals turn into bleating heart liberals. This and BREXIT, excellent news!
I wouldn't be so jubilant if I were you. The markets round the world are tumbling as a result of this, in exactly the same way as the pound has been losing value since the brexit vote.
Like it or not you and all those who are now celebrating Trumps win and the Brexit win are about to find out that you and they are just as vulnerable as the rest of us.
The shame is you and they don't see it."No, I've read enough of that bullshit to know that I'm not buying it. The political left and the liberal establishment have had their own way for far too long. Time for change, and the rest of the world will probably follow suit. | |||
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"I don't blame people voting Trump tbh. People are sick of the same political class all taking and not giving. And then they vote for a businessman whose success has come from inherited wealth instead. People who are pissed off with feeling poor and disenfranchised, who have just voted to make themselves poorer and more disenfranchised, lose any sympathy from me. They deserve everything they get." Exactly its not like a magical wand can be waved and it'll be the 70s again, there will still be a constantly rising population and jobs being replaced by machinery and computers. | |||
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"I'm loving this, watching the bleading heart liberals turn into bleating heart liberals. This and BREXIT, excellent news!
I wouldn't be so jubilant if I were you. The markets round the world are tumbling as a result of this, in exactly the same way as the pound has been losing value since the brexit vote.
Like it or not you and all those who are now celebrating Trumps win and the Brexit win are about to find out that you and they are just as vulnerable as the rest of us.
The shame is you and they don't see it.
No, I've read enough of that bullshit to know that I'm not buying it.
The political left and the liberal establishment have had their own way for far too long.
Time for change, and the rest of the world will probably follow suit."..and what is this 'change' people want? Nobody seems able to discuss what this 'change' is? | |||
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"I'm loving this, watching the bleading heart liberals turn into bleating heart liberals. This and BREXIT, excellent news!
I wouldn't be so jubilant if I were you. The markets round the world are tumbling as a result of this, in exactly the same way as the pound has been losing value since the brexit vote.
Like it or not you and all those who are now celebrating Trumps win and the Brexit win are about to find out that you and they are just as vulnerable as the rest of us.
The shame is you and they don't see it.
No, I've read enough of that bullshit to know that I'm not buying it.
The political left and the liberal establishment have had their own way for far too long.
Time for change, and the rest of the world will probably follow suit."This is exactly how the swing states have seen it. The media attempt to destroy Trump (and they're still at it now) has backfired totally. | |||
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"I'm loving this, watching the bleading heart liberals turn into bleating heart liberals. This and BREXIT, excellent news!
I wouldn't be so jubilant if I were you. The markets round the world are tumbling as a result of this, in exactly the same way as the pound has been losing value since the brexit vote.
Like it or not you and all those who are now celebrating Trumps win and the Brexit win are about to find out that you and they are just as vulnerable as the rest of us.
The shame is you and they don't see it."Actually it is true that the markets have dropped significantly in the last few hours! One report states they have dropped as far as it is allowed to go! | |||
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"I was going to put a tenner on Clinton to be impeached, now I think Ill put it on trump for attempted assassination..." God. I actually thought that for a fleeting second! There have apparantly been protests already outside the White House. | |||
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"I'm loving this, watching the bleading heart liberals turn into bleating heart liberals. This and BREXIT, excellent news!
I wouldn't be so jubilant if I were you. The markets round the world are tumbling as a result of this, in exactly the same way as the pound has been losing value since the brexit vote.
Like it or not you and all those who are now celebrating Trumps win and the Brexit win are about to find out that you and they are just as vulnerable as the rest of us.
The shame is you and they don't see it.
No, I've read enough of that bullshit to know that I'm not buying it.
The political left and the liberal establishment have had their own way for far too long.
Time for change, and the rest of the world will probably follow suit...
and what is this 'change' people want? Nobody seems able to discuss what this 'change' is? "They don't know what it is either. They just know they're angry about their failed little lives so want to fuck things up for other people to make themselves feel better. | |||
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"Please don't say trump won? "Winning. Not there yet but yeah, pretty much. | |||
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"Please don't say trump won?
Winning. Not there yet but yeah, pretty much."Fucking hell some of my closest friends are Americans I really feel for them right now...I wonder how many will end up leaving the US... | |||
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"I'm loving this, watching the bleading heart liberals turn into bleating heart liberals. This and BREXIT, excellent news!
I wouldn't be so jubilant if I were you. The markets round the world are tumbling as a result of this, in exactly the same way as the pound has been losing value since the brexit vote.
Like it or not you and all those who are now celebrating Trumps win and the Brexit win are about to find out that you and they are just as vulnerable as the rest of us.
The shame is you and they don't see it.
No, I've read enough of that bullshit to know that I'm not buying it.
The political left and the liberal establishment have had their own way for far too long.
Time for change, and the rest of the world will probably follow suit."The left hasn't had its own way, what are you even talking about? | |||
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"Please don't say trump won?
Winning. Not there yet but yeah, pretty much.
Fucking hell some of my closest friends are Americans I really feel for them right now...I wonder how many will end up leaving the US..."Leave the U.S? And go where? | |||
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"Please don't say trump won?
Winning. Not there yet but yeah, pretty much.
Fucking hell some of my closest friends are Americans I really feel for them right now...I wonder how many will end up leaving the US..."Let's hope for their sake they don't move here because they'll just hear more of the same shite from the brexiteers. | |||
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"Twitter never fails to deliver Chris rock "BREAKING NEWS: America Far Dumber Than Originally Thought #electionnight" " | |||
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"Please don't say trump won?
Winning. Not there yet but yeah, pretty much.
Fucking hell some of my closest friends are Americans I really feel for them right now...I wonder how many will end up leaving the US...
Leave the U.S? And go where? "I don't know it was just a remark as I was talking about it with my friend out there I jokingly offered my spare room if Trump won... | |||
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"I'm loving this, watching the bleading heart liberals turn into bleating heart liberals. This and BREXIT, excellent news!
I wouldn't be so jubilant if I were you. The markets round the world are tumbling as a result of this, in exactly the same way as the pound has been losing value since the brexit vote.
Like it or not you and all those who are now celebrating Trumps win and the Brexit win are about to find out that you and they are just as vulnerable as the rest of us.
The shame is you and they don't see it.
Actually it is true that the markets have dropped significantly in the last few hours! One report states they have dropped as far as it is allowed to go! "Yep Asian markets aren't happy. London will no doubt follow suit when it opens. | |||
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"Please don't say trump won?
Winning. Not there yet but yeah, pretty much.
Fucking hell some of my closest friends are Americans I really feel for them right now...I wonder how many will end up leaving the US...
Let's hope for their sake they don't move here because they'll just hear more of the same shite from the brexiteers."True  | |||
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"I'm loving this, watching the bleading heart liberals turn into bleating heart liberals. This and BREXIT, excellent news!
I wouldn't be so jubilant if I were you. The markets round the world are tumbling as a result of this, in exactly the same way as the pound has been losing value since the brexit vote.
Like it or not you and all those who are now celebrating Trumps win and the Brexit win are about to find out that you and they are just as vulnerable as the rest of us.
The shame is you and they don't see it.
No, I've read enough of that bullshit to know that I'm not buying it.
The political left and the liberal establishment have had their own way for far too long.
Time for change, and the rest of the world will probably follow suit...
and what is this 'change' people want? Nobody seems able to discuss what this 'change' is?
They don't know what it is either. They just know they're angry about their failed little lives so want to fuck things up for other people to make themselves feel better.
"I'm putting that up there with one of the most offensive things I've ever read. you see when people take that attitude towards there fellow human beings opinions and lifes it allows the attitude of them against us to flourish in my opinion . | |||
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"Please don't say trump won?
Winning. Not there yet but yeah, pretty much.
Fucking hell some of my closest friends are Americans I really feel for them right now...I wonder how many will end up leaving the US...
Leave the U.S? And go where? "Not Mexico as he reckons he's extending the wall doesn't he? Ever feel like we are going back in time. | |||
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"Please don't say trump won?
Winning. Not there yet but yeah, pretty much.
Fucking hell some of my closest friends are Americans I really feel for them right now...I wonder how many will end up leaving the US...
Leave the U.S? And go where?
Not Mexico as he reckons he's extending the wall doesn't he? Ever feel like we are going back in time. "I'm going with Canada | |||
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"I'm loving this, watching the bleading heart liberals turn into bleating heart liberals. This and BREXIT, excellent news!
I wouldn't be so jubilant if I were you. The markets round the world are tumbling as a result of this, in exactly the same way as the pound has been losing value since the brexit vote.
Like it or not you and all those who are now celebrating Trumps win and the Brexit win are about to find out that you and they are just as vulnerable as the rest of us.
The shame is you and they don't see it.
No, I've read enough of that bullshit to know that I'm not buying it.
The political left and the liberal establishment have had their own way for far too long.
Time for change, and the rest of the world will probably follow suit...
and what is this 'change' people want? Nobody seems able to discuss what this 'change' is?
They don't know what it is either. They just know they're angry about their failed little lives so want to fuck things up for other people to make themselves feel better.
I'm putting that up there with one of the most offensive things I've ever read. you see when people take that attitude towards there fellow human beings opinions and lifes it allows the attitude of them against us to flourish in my opinion ."I'm thrilled you're so offended. | |||
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"I don't blame people voting Trump tbh. People are sick of the same political class all taking and not giving. So they opt for a billionaire who knows nothing of the American Middle Class, but a lot about reality TV. Someone whose used immigrants in his own businesses and avoided paying health benefits and minimum wage, but criticises immigration. Someone who degrades women, disabled people and LGBTQ. Someone who is going to slash taxes for the richest Americans. Yadda Yadda Yadda. They were stuck between a rock and a hard place, looks like they'll all get squeezed now. Scary times ahead. " Yup, it beggars belief people are voting for him. And they'll all complain when their lives get worse and blame subliminal messages in music | |||
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"Didn't expect that when I went to bed. Whatever your views on the US Election (or even Brexit) you have to ask why these two global impact elections have gone the way they have. Why are people voting the way they have? " Because they think it will change things. I doubt it will. It was a close vote though wasn't it ? And the sad thing - those people who voted other , could have made the result different. | |||
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"I don't blame people voting Trump tbh. People are sick of the same political class all taking and not giving. So they opt for a billionaire who knows nothing of the American Middle Class, but a lot about reality TV. Someone whose used immigrants in his own businesses and avoided paying health benefits and minimum wage, but criticises immigration. Someone who degrades women, disabled people and LGBTQ. Someone who is going to slash taxes for the richest Americans. Yadda Yadda Yadda. They were stuck between a rock and a hard place, looks like they'll all get squeezed now. Scary times ahead. Yup, it beggars belief people are voting for him. And they'll all complain when their lives get worse and blame subliminal messages in music " | |||
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"Didn't expect that when I went to bed. Whatever your views on the US Election (or even Brexit) you have to ask why these two global impact elections have gone the way they have. Why are people voting the way they have? " Because they're pissed off with their lives. | |||
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"Didn't expect that when I went to bed. Whatever your views on the US Election (or even Brexit) you have to ask why these two global impact elections have gone the way they have. Why are people voting the way they have? Because they're pissed off with their lives. " Yep a vote for discontent | |||
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"There goes the special relationship." No, it will be the same. Despite the jaded UK media attempts to demonise him Trump likes the UK. | |||
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"And as one Radio 4 commentator has observed, the KKK and white supremacists have had their best night ever! If I was a non-white in America I'd be finding the fastest way out of the country! Especially if I was Obama who, like Hillary will be hunted down by fair means or foul by Trumps mafia! " Quite a few hispanics and African Americans voted for Trump. What has Obama done for them? | |||
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"There goes the special relationship. No, it will be the same. Despite the jaded UK media attempts to demonise him Trump likes the UK." If by "demonise" him you mean "report the actual words he's actually said" then yeah, sure they're all out to get him. He doesn't like the UK. He couldn't give two shits about the UK, except at the point he thought Farage would help. | |||
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"Didn't expect that when I went to bed. Whatever your views on the US Election (or even Brexit) you have to ask why these two global impact elections have gone the way they have. Why are people voting the way they have? Because they're pissed off with their lives. " Or maybe just maybe they decided that they was tired of an establishment full of corruption and wanted an end to it even if that means voting for trump who is far from perfect. I don't care what people think as most of you seen pro Clinton but i for one applaud the people that voted against the status qou and corruption. Just like Britain, america have a new path in front of them and you know what it might just might be a positive one. | |||
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"And as one Radio 4 commentator has observed, the KKK and white supremacists have had their best night ever! If I was a non-white in America I'd be finding the fastest way out of the country! Especially if I was Obama who, like Hillary will be hunted down by fair means or foul by Trumps mafia! Quite a few hispanics and African Americans voted for Trump. What has Obama done for them?" What the hell has he been ABLE to do? Fuck all thanks to Republicans blocking him from doing jack shit! He's the best President America never had! He has NO legacy cos he was blocked from doing anything! | |||
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"On the plus side we often fear what we don't understand and I don't understand Trump. Will he be that bad?" Who doesn't understand Trump? He is a twice bankrupted fraudster and conman who is proud that he and his corporation has paid no local or federal taxes in the past 20 years. He has told his supporters that if they got charged for attacking hecklers at his rallies he would pay their legal bills. He has boasted that as a celebrity he could sexually assault any young woman and they could not stop him. He has boasted that his teenage daughter is 'a piece of ass' and that if she were not his daughter he would do her. He has said he will order US armed forces to use torture. How much do you need to hear before you get an idea of the man? Need I go on? | |||
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"Didn't expect that when I went to bed. Whatever your views on the US Election (or even Brexit) you have to ask why these two global impact elections have gone the way they have. Why are people voting the way they have? Because they're pissed off with their lives. Or maybe just maybe they decided that they was tired of an establishment full of corruption and wanted an end to it even if that means voting for trump who is far from perfect. I don't care what people think as most of you seen pro Clinton but i for one applaud the people that voted against the status qou and corruption. Just like Britain, america have a new path in front of them and you know what it might just might be a positive one. "Just like Britain, the "anti-establishment" and "anti-corruption" voters have been taken in by the claims of two middle aged rich white businessmen in terrible jackets. It doesn't get much more establishment than that. | |||
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"On the plus side we often fear what we don't understand and I don't understand Trump. Will he be that bad? Who doesn't understand Trump? He is a twice bankrupted fraudster and conman who is proud that he and his corporation has paid no local or federal taxes in the past 20 years. He has told his supporters that if they got charged for attacking hecklers at his rallies he would pay their legal bills. He has boasted that as a celebrity he could sexually assault any young woman and they could not stop him. He has boasted that his teenage daughter is 'a piece of ass' and that if she were not his daughter he would do her. He has said he will order US armed forces to use torture. How much do you need to hear before you get an idea of the man? Need I go on? " Four times bankrupted. Taking down countless small businesses with him in Atlantic City. | |||
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"I feel as depressed/stunned as I did when I woke up after brexit day! I just don't get how countless millions of apparently educated people can make (in my view and in the market's view) such shit and bigoted decisions! I really do think we've regressed decades - and this is all China (with its disregard for human rights) needs to take a huge leap forward in establishing an even bigger share of the global economy! I believe that within a very short time scale the 'superpower' that is the USA will no longer be a superpower! Sad day! "Correction - Americans are NOT educated!!!! | |||
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"Didn't expect that when I went to bed. Whatever your views on the US Election (or even Brexit) you have to ask why these two global impact elections have gone the way they have. Why are people voting the way they have? Because they're pissed off with their lives. Or maybe just maybe they decided that they was tired of an establishment full of corruption and wanted an end to it even if that means voting for trump who is far from perfect. I don't care what people think as most of you seen pro Clinton but i for one applaud the people that voted against the status qou and corruption. Just like Britain, america have a new path in front of them and you know what it might just might be a positive one. "But how is it a vote against the status quo? Trump is about as status quo as it gets, a rich white dude with typical conservative positions. | |||
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"There goes the special relationship. No, it will be the same. Despite the jaded UK media attempts to demonise him Trump likes the UK. If by "demonise" him you mean "report the actual words he's actually said" then yeah, sure they're all out to get him. He doesn't like the UK. He couldn't give two shits about the UK, except at the point he thought Farage would help." Some of what he said was taken out of context but perhaps his 'politically incorrect' bluntness resonated with a few people? Just as Sarkozy is in France now. | |||
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"Didn't expect that when I went to bed. Whatever your views on the US Election (or even Brexit) you have to ask why these two global impact elections have gone the way they have. Why are people voting the way they have? Because they're pissed off with their lives. Or maybe just maybe they decided that they was tired of an establishment full of corruption and wanted an end to it even if that means voting for trump who is far from perfect. I don't care what people think as most of you seen pro Clinton but i for one applaud the people that voted against the status qou and corruption. Just like Britain, america have a new path in front of them and you know what it might just might be a positive one.
But how is it a vote against the status quo? Trump is about as status quo as it gets, a rich white dude with typical conservative positions. ". Wrong. He's completely outside the political elite and he speaks his mind without waiting to see which way the wind is blowing first. | |||
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"There goes the special relationship. No, it will be the same. Despite the jaded UK media attempts to demonise him Trump likes the UK. If by "demonise" him you mean "report the actual words he's actually said" then yeah, sure they're all out to get him. He doesn't like the UK. He couldn't give two shits about the UK, except at the point he thought Farage would help. Some of what he said was taken out of context but perhaps his 'politically incorrect' bluntness resonated with a few people? Just as Sarkozy is in France now." Ah, taken out of context. There is no context that makes some of his proclamations anything other than hate fuelled, meaningless and designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Looks like it worked. | |||
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"Didn't expect that when I went to bed. Whatever your views on the US Election (or even Brexit) you have to ask why these two global impact elections have gone the way they have. Why are people voting the way they have? Because they're pissed off with their lives. Or maybe just maybe they decided that they was tired of an establishment full of corruption and wanted an end to it even if that means voting for trump who is far from perfect. I don't care what people think as most of you seen pro Clinton but i for one applaud the people that voted against the status qou and corruption. Just like Britain, america have a new path in front of them and you know what it might just might be a positive one.
But how is it a vote against the status quo? Trump is about as status quo as it gets, a rich white dude with typical conservative positions. .
Wrong. He's completely outside the political elite and he speaks his mind without waiting to see which way the wind is blowing first."He's only outside the political elite because he's part of the inherited wealth super rich. | |||
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"Didn't expect that when I went to bed. Whatever your views on the US Election (or even Brexit) you have to ask why these two global impact elections have gone the way they have. Why are people voting the way they have? Because they're pissed off with their lives. Or maybe just maybe they decided that they was tired of an establishment full of corruption and wanted an end to it even if that means voting for trump who is far from perfect. I don't care what people think as most of you seen pro Clinton but i for one applaud the people that voted against the status qou and corruption. Just like Britain, america have a new path in front of them and you know what it might just might be a positive one.
But how is it a vote against the status quo? Trump is about as status quo as it gets, a rich white dude with typical conservative positions. .
Wrong. He's completely outside the political elite and he speaks his mind without waiting to see which way the wind is blowing first."He's pandered to every single typical Republican position. Pro guns, anti immigration, anti abortion, anti action on climate change. He's not a radical in any way. | |||
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"Didn't expect that when I went to bed. Whatever your views on the US Election (or even Brexit) you have to ask why these two global impact elections have gone the way they have. Why are people voting the way they have? Because they're pissed off with their lives. Or maybe just maybe they decided that they was tired of an establishment full of corruption and wanted an end to it even if that means voting for trump who is far from perfect. I don't care what people think as most of you seen pro Clinton but i for one applaud the people that voted against the status qou and corruption. Just like Britain, america have a new path in front of them and you know what it might just might be a positive one.
But how is it a vote against the status quo? Trump is about as status quo as it gets, a rich white dude with typical conservative positions. .
Wrong. He's completely outside the political elite and he speaks his mind without waiting to see which way the wind is blowing first.
He's only outside the political elite because he's part of the inherited wealth super rich."The working class American voters appear to disagree with you. | |||
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"Didn't expect that when I went to bed. Whatever your views on the US Election (or even Brexit) you have to ask why these two global impact elections have gone the way they have. Why are people voting the way they have? Because they're pissed off with their lives. Or maybe just maybe they decided that they was tired of an establishment full of corruption and wanted an end to it even if that means voting for trump who is far from perfect. I don't care what people think as most of you seen pro Clinton but i for one applaud the people that voted against the status qou and corruption. Just like Britain, america have a new path in front of them and you know what it might just might be a positive one.
But how is it a vote against the status quo? Trump is about as status quo as it gets, a rich white dude with typical conservative positions. .
Wrong. He's completely outside the political elite and he speaks his mind without waiting to see which way the wind is blowing first.
He's only outside the political elite because he's part of the inherited wealth super rich.
The working class American voters appear to disagree with you."Clearly. More fool them. | |||
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"I feel as depressed/stunned as I did when I woke up after brexit day! I just don't get how countless millions of apparently educated people can make (in my view and in the market's view) such shit and bigoted decisions! I really do think we've regressed decades - and this is all China (with its disregard for human rights) needs to take a huge leap forward in establishing an even bigger share of the global economy! I believe that within a very short time scale the 'superpower' that is the USA will no longer be a superpower! Sad day! " | |||
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"I feel as depressed/stunned as I did when I woke up after brexit day! I just don't get how countless millions of apparently educated people can make (in my view and in the market's view) such shit and bigoted decisions! I really do think we've regressed decades - and this is all China (with its disregard for human rights) needs to take a huge leap forward in establishing an even bigger share of the global economy! I believe that within a very short time scale the 'superpower' that is the USA will no longer be a superpower! Sad day! "I think the western world has had enough of the whole 'inclusive', "in it together" mantra that most countries tell us we should live by. Heard one guy from Mexico, who goes to work in the US saying "it's the end of the American Dream". The notion that anyone can go to America and be rewarded for how hard they work. Is it the end though? There'll still be immigration, just not an open door policy, especially in the South, that's been happening for years. I don't know. I get what you're saying but Trump will get things done and maybe the world will be a safer place for it. Time will tell. It's definitely a sign that the majority of people both here and there have had enough of the Establishment. Personally I think Trump is exactly what the world needs. Think of him as a kick up the backside telling us to sort ourselves out and produce better candidates. | |||
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"I feel as depressed/stunned as I did when I woke up after brexit day! I just don't get how countless millions of apparently educated people can make (in my view and in the market's view) such shit and bigoted decisions! I really do think we've regressed decades - and this is all China (with its disregard for human rights) needs to take a huge leap forward in establishing an even bigger share of the global economy! I believe that within a very short time scale the 'superpower' that is the USA will no longer be a superpower! Sad day!
Correction - Americans are NOT educated!!!!"With my 'apparently educated' I was actually referring to Brits there as well as U.S. Citizens! Despite over a decade (minimum) of education - many people seemed to be incapable of understanding/taking part in any kind of reasoned debate and instead respond only to 'sound bytes' - if they hear a few they like the sound of then they vote that way! They say every era had its day (Rome etc) and I think this could well be the beginning of the decline of the West - and with it the best of the things that it had tried to achieve in recent years - global democracy, an end to global starvation/water shortage/preventable diseases etc! I'm bloody glad I don't have a crystal ball - and I feel desperately sorry for my children and their future children! | |||
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"I'm waiting for the first conspiracy theory to appear. "This result has been 8 years in the making and has been funded by 'the second largest US corporation you have never heard of' (google it) and its owners use of the money they would otherwise have had to pay in federal taxes (in the USA corporations can divert money from taxes to fund 'charities' and control how the 'charities' spend that money) to fund an organisation that funded directed and controlled 'the tea party' of the GOP. | |||
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"I'm waiting for the first conspiracy theory to appear.
This result has been 8 years in the making and has been funded by 'the second largest US corporation you have never heard of' (google it) and its owners use of the money they would otherwise have had to pay in federal taxes (in the USA corporations can divert money from taxes to fund 'charities' and control how the 'charities' spend that money) to fund an organisation that funded directed and controlled 'the tea party' of the GOP."Fantastic, the conspiracy theories start. However, Clinton had the pop-stars and virtually all of the media across the Western World. Doesn't appear to have worked does it. | |||
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