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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

should the MOD be paying for soldiers to freeze and preserve their sperm before they go out to war just in case they sustain severe injuries?

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By *rT30Man  over a year ago

Munster

I think so yes.

Or maybe the individual could make a payment towards it personally every month to ease the burden on the taxpayer?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

A number of British soldiers posted in war-torn Afghanistan are said to be freezing their sperm in case they are killed or maimed, a media report said.

The British Army has paid a private firm to store sperm samples as an 'insurance policy'; wives and girlfriends would use the semen to become pregnant if their loved ones are killed or can no longer father children, The Sun reported.

In fact, the exercise follows after the Ministry of Defence issued a memo advising that private sperm freezing and storage for a year could cost as much as 1,000 pounds. "The MoD provides all military personnel with pre- deployment advice on fertility preservation," a MoD spokesman was quoted by the British tabloid as saying.

One 28-year-old Army wife said: "This practice is more common than you think. Army wives and girlfriends already have to deal with their partners maybe not coming home. An added torment is that their dreams of a child are also shattered. "If my husband dies, he's given me permission to use his sperm to have our baby. It's an insurance policy, should the worst happen."

Thats copies & pasted from an online website.. just made me think and wondered what others thought. £1000 a year for every soldier..

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By *ushroom7Man  over a year ago

Bradford

Rather sad.

There is the old saying "It takes a real man to be a daddy."

To paraphrase slighly, "It takes an actual man to be a daddy".

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By *etillanteWoman  over a year ago

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Is £20 per week

How much do they need to put aside to compensate if they cannot have children

How much value do you put on a baby

To me priceless

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Is £20 per week

How much do they need to put aside to compensate if they cannot have children

How much value do you put on a baby

To me priceless"

yes but should the tax payer pay for it for EVERY soldier?

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By *etillanteWoman  over a year ago

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"Is £20 per week

How much do they need to put aside to compensate if they cannot have children

How much value do you put on a baby

To me priceless

yes but should the tax payer pay for it for EVERY soldier?"

On the frontline, yes

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

143,550 Soldiers in the Army (not including reserves) Multiply that by £10,000 (presuming that amount of soldiers stay in the forces for 10 years) thats

£1435,500,000

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By *phroditeWoman  over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"143,550 Soldiers in the Army (not including reserves) Multiply that by £10,000 (presuming that amount of soldiers stay in the forces for 10 years) thats

£1435,500,000 "

Would that not be assuming every soldier wants to procreate?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

actually that was just the army numbers.. not the RAF or NAVY

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By *etillanteWoman  over a year ago

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How much money would you put on your babies life?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"143,550 Soldiers in the Army (not including reserves) Multiply that by £10,000 (presuming that amount of soldiers stay in the forces for 10 years) thats

£1435,500,000

Would that not be assuming every soldier wants to procreate?"

well some soldiers sign up for 22years so only gave each soldier 10years worth of funding.. lol

Ive no idea how the MOD would work it out,, but either way its a hell of a lot of money to spend.

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By *LBishCouple  over a year ago

near bury st edmunds

From what i could gather from the one show report, the MoD doesn't yet pay for this, but the couple think they should. As the previous poster mention, not every shoulder would take up on this. And if it is offered by the MoD, i think it should only apply to those who don't yet have children.

But while i deffinatly agree that the MoD has a duty of care to troops injured, this could be a step to far. As mentioned, its 1,000 but how many shoulder would actually need this. Its one thing to care for troops who have been injured, but to spend all this money on what might happen is something else. And while the MoD pays compensation to troops injured, they still have to pay for their own life insurance.

Given the cut backs currently being faced, i think this is one thing to far.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"How much money would you put on your babies life?

"

If i was that worried about not being able to reproduce or worry about going to war and loosing my ability to do so,, then id never have signed up.

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By *LBishCouple  over a year ago

near bury st edmunds


"143,550 Soldiers in the Army (not including reserves) Multiply that by £10,000 (presuming that amount of soldiers stay in the forces for 10 years) thats

£1435,500,000

Would that not be assuming every soldier wants to procreate?

well some soldiers sign up for 22years so only gave each soldier 10years worth of funding.. lol

Ive no idea how the MOD would work it out,, but either way its a hell of a lot of money to spend.

"

No one signs up for 22 years. They sign up for 4 and are then on an open engagment after that.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"143,550 Soldiers in the Army (not including reserves) Multiply that by £10,000 (presuming that amount of soldiers stay in the forces for 10 years) thats

£1435,500,000

Would that not be assuming every soldier wants to procreate?

well some soldiers sign up for 22years so only gave each soldier 10years worth of funding.. lol

Ive no idea how the MOD would work it out,, but either way its a hell of a lot of money to spend.

No one signs up for 22 years. They sign up for 4 and are then on an open engagment after that."

Sorry to burst your bubble but my dad signed up for 22yrs..

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By *LBishCouple  over a year ago

near bury st edmunds

Well, no idea when your dad joined, but when i joined just over 20 years ago, you signed up for 3, 6, or 9 and no more. I even asked to sign on for 22 at the time, but was told i couldn't. It has now changed to 4 years and then open engagment.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

What about all the others that are out in places like afghan ?

we have marines, raf and navy out there ! all could be harmed !

yes some more than others but you cant pay out for everyone of those ! BUT if a soldier/marine/airman or sailor chose to do it then yes the government should pay towards it !

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

dad left the army in 2005

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By *LBishCouple  over a year ago

near bury st edmunds


"dad left the army in 2005"

So i assume he joined in 83. It may have changed between 83 and 90 when i joined.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"dad left the army in 2005

So i assume he joined in 83. It may have changed between 83 and 90 when i joined."

sounds about right i'm crap with dates lol

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By *LBishCouple  over a year ago

near bury st edmunds

Makes nto of us, but then i am old, i have a good excuse lol.

But the costs wouldn't need to be as high as all that. You would only need to deploy the sperm for the time the troops are on OP's, i.e. 6 months. They could just start over each time they deploy. So it would have to be for the whole time they are in. And we are talking about guys who can no longer have children becasue of an injury. namely being blown up by a IED or anti persoanel mine. This rules out most of the navy and RAF and a large part of the Army. Afetr all, a cheif who spends 6 months in bastion isn't likely to lose his nuts, unless someone really doesn't like his food.

So if you just did it for those at the greater risk and for the timke they were deployed, and then split the cost between the soldier and MoD, it wouldn't be that bad.

Just an option.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire


"A number of British soldiers posted in war-torn Afghanistan are said to be freezing their sperm in case they are killed or maimed, a media report said.

The British Army has paid a private firm to store sperm samples as an 'insurance policy'; wives and girlfriends would use the semen to become pregnant if their loved ones are killed or can no longer father children, The Sun reported.

In fact, the exercise follows after the Ministry of Defence issued a memo advising that private sperm freezing and storage for a year could cost as much as 1,000 pounds. "The MoD provides all military personnel with pre- deployment advice on fertility preservation," a MoD spokesman was quoted by the British tabloid as saying.

One 28-year-old Army wife said: "This practice is more common than you think. Army wives and girlfriends already have to deal with their partners maybe not coming home. An added torment is that their dreams of a child are also shattered. "If my husband dies, he's given me permission to use his sperm to have our baby. It's an insurance policy, should the worst happen."

Thats copies & pasted from an online website.. just made me think and wondered what others thought. £1000 a year for every soldier.. "

But it doesnt say every soldier. Its for soldiers who have wives and g/fs that would possibly want to have a baby if their partners died.

So take away the singl soldiers

Take away the soldiers that already have children

Take away the ones that wouldnt want to have their partners baby if they died.

It probley wouldnt be that many.

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By *ouple1234Couple  over a year ago

BELFAST UK

im ment to be heading out next year so if this is on offer il be taking it no matter who pays for it tho i wouldnt mind it coming from my wages while im out there.

and as for the signing up its under review so far its 4years then 8 then 16 and then the full 22 thats what was on offer to me last year

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By *LBishCouple  over a year ago

near bury st edmunds


"and as for the signing up its under review so far its 4years then 8 then 16 and then the full 22 thats what was on offer to me last year "

In that case they must have changed it again recently, but i haven't heard of it. Every one i know signed on for 4 and then went onto open engagment. Thats why they give out the bonuses after a certain number of years.

If you do go, good luck and stay safe.

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