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By *ath_Neil_bifun OP   Couple  over a year ago

near cardiff

God the internet can be so depressing..

The shit people believe is shocking..

Fuck all that peer reviewed bollocks, you are much better off listening to some guy on YouTube, and his pseudo science bs..

But saying that I do love watching em..does anyone have a favourite they wish were true?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I've seen serious, credible arguments that the moon landing in 1969 didn't happen.

The fact the flag is blowing in "THAT" iconic picture raises serious questions and a colossal amount of doubt for me.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I've no doubt the 1969 moon landing actually happened .....

But I think its likely some of the iconic images relating too that event may have been reproduced here on earth ,,,,

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I've seen serious, credible arguments that the moon landing in 1969 didn't happen.

The fact the flag is blowing in "THAT" iconic picture raises serious questions and a colossal amount of doubt for me. "

Really? It's just inertial movement with three degrees of motion in an undamped environment.

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"I've seen serious, credible arguments that the moon landing in 1969 didn't happen.

The fact the flag is blowing in "THAT" iconic picture raises serious questions and a colossal amount of doubt for me. "

Not only that but the exact same rock appears with the letter 'c' on it twice in the same photo.

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By *ongtalljonMan  over a year ago

North Wales

The moon does have some atmosphere although it is very thin. The flag was definitely and clearly supported along it's top edge. If the flag wasn't waving I'd be more concerned.

There are a handful of photographs which have clearly been Photoshopped.

I am completely and utterly convinced and I thoroughly believe that man has indeed stepped foot on the moon. The Nasa landings were not faked.

However, I am also completely and utterly convinced that there has been some coverup about what else was found on the moon and in space.

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"The moon does have some atmosphere although it is very thin. The flag was definitely and clearly supported along it's top edge. If the flag wasn't waving I'd be more concerned.

There are a handful of photographs which have clearly been Photoshopped.

I am completely and utterly convinced and I thoroughly believe that man has indeed stepped foot on the moon. The Nasa landings were not faked.

However, I am also completely and utterly convinced that there has been some coverup about what else was found on the moon and in space. "

Oooh! Like what?

(The 'oooh!' Isn't me being bi, it's me being excited)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Don't tell me.... It's a glass superstructure like superman's!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

He can't say, the soup dragon swore him to secrecy....

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By *ath_Neil_bifun OP   Couple  over a year ago

near cardiff


"I've seen serious, credible arguments that the moon landing in 1969 didn't happen.

The fact the flag is blowing in "THAT" iconic picture raises serious questions and a colossal amount of doubt for me. "

Ah the moon landing ones are funny but for every reason the moon landing was hoaxed there is a more than credible reason to counter the hoax claim.I don't believe the moon landing was a fake

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"However, I am also completely and utterly convinced that there has been some coverup about what else was found on the moon and in space. "

So what do you suspect they found and what is the basis for your belief?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I've seen serious, credible arguments that the moon landing in 1969 didn't happen.

The fact the flag is blowing in "THAT" iconic picture raises serious questions and a colossal amount of doubt for me. "

If the moon landings had been created in a studio, there wouldn't have been any wind.

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By *inky-MinxWoman  over a year ago

Grantham


"There are a handful of photographs which have clearly been Photoshopped. "

In the 70s

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By *inky-MinxWoman  over a year ago

Grantham

They were real

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By *workoutMan  over a year ago

Cradley Heath


"I've seen serious, credible arguments that the moon landing in 1969 didn't happen.

The fact the flag is blowing in "THAT" iconic picture raises serious questions and a colossal amount of doubt for me.

If the moon landings had been created in a studio, there wouldn't have been any wind.

"

Unless they'd spent a fiver on a fan

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I've seen serious, credible arguments that the moon landing in 1969 didn't happen.

The fact the flag is blowing in "THAT" iconic picture raises serious questions and a colossal amount of doubt for me.

If the moon landings had been created in a studio, there wouldn't have been any wind.

Unless they'd spent a fiver on a fan "

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By *workoutMan  over a year ago

Cradley Heath

My friend at work is obsessed by the nibiru planet entering our solar system and causing global catastrophe.

Government cover ups I tell you!!

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By *ath_Neil_bifun OP   Couple  over a year ago

near cardiff

The most depressing are the big pharmaceutical conspiracies..in that they suppress a cure for cancer, which they found from cannabis....you are a sheep if you don't believe in anecdotal evidence ,and pseudoscience.

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"The most depressing are the big pharmaceutical conspiracies..in that they suppress a cure for cancer, which they found from cannabis....you are a sheep if you don't believe in anecdotal evidence ,and pseudoscience."

If you don't believe?

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By *ost SockMan  over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff

I spent years thinking the moon landings were faked. Then I realised I was being an numpty.

The one I love is that the driver in JFK's car shot him. The first time I saw the footage on YT, I was blown away. When you look carefully, it looks for all the world like he turns around with a sliver gun in his hand.

Then you see another clip and it shows that it's an illusion - the silver gun is simply the sun glinting off the top of the guy in the paaasenger seat's head.

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By *obletonMan  over a year ago

A Home Among The Woodland Creatures

If you like a good laugh at conspiracy nuts I can highly recommend Cool Hard Logic's youtube series entitled World of Batshit.

They're all pretty good but Chemtrailer Trash knocks it out of the park.

(can't remember, are youtube links allowed or not?)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I was always cynical about conspiracy theories but the evidence that Madeleine McCann is dead and parents are suspects is so overwhelming that I'm convinced that higher powers were involved to protect them.

Why? I do not know but Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, telephone to sky news before police, Clarence Mitchell and many other bizarre things make no sense.

I've not even started about dogs smelling death or Gerry McCann buying a fridge for an apartment that can't be traced!

Conspiracy theories I believe are often not as crazy as mainstream opinion often says it is.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The most depressing are the big pharmaceutical conspiracies..in that they suppress a cure for cancer, which they found from cannabis....you are a sheep if you don't believe in anecdotal evidence ,and pseudoscience."

There is also lots of theories around the Zika virus, Ebola virus and other global diseases. It's normally based around pharmaceutical companies and profits.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The most depressing are the big pharmaceutical conspiracies..in that they suppress a cure for cancer, which they found from cannabis....you are a sheep if you don't believe in anecdotal evidence ,and pseudoscience."
.

That's the thing with all great conspiracy theories they take an element of truth and exaggerate it with the bizarre.....

It's highly likely that big pharma isn't looking for cures as much as looking for get me bys... It's just profit related.

Throw in some wow and next thing you know there putting fluoride in your water to make you into zombies!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I was always cynical about conspiracy theories but the evidence that Madeleine McCann is dead and parents are suspects is so overwhelming that I'm convinced that higher powers were involved to protect them.

Why? I do not know but Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, telephone to sky news before police, Clarence Mitchell and many other bizarre things make no sense.

I've not even started about dogs smelling death or Gerry McCann buying a fridge for an apartment that can't be traced!

Conspiracy theories I believe are often not as crazy as mainstream opinion often says it is."

.

That's slightly different as it's a mystery to everyone officially,! Yours is just one of many possible scenarios

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

So we have secret people doing secret things in secret ,,,,,,,, but don't ask me how I know this..

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By *ongtalljonMan  over a year ago

North Wales


"The moon does have some atmosphere although it is very thin. The flag was definitely and clearly supported along it's top edge. If the flag wasn't waving I'd be more concerned.

There are a handful of photographs which have clearly been Photoshopped.

I am completely and utterly convinced and I thoroughly believe that man has indeed stepped foot on the moon. The Nasa landings were not faked.

However, I am also completely and utterly convinced that there has been some coverup about what else was found on the moon and in space.

Oooh! Like what?

(The 'oooh!' Isn't me being bi, it's me being excited) "

This is the problem, there are some photos which clearly have been photoshopped. By that, I mean, someone has made use of a clone / stamp tool. Here on earth, photoshop users routinely use clone / stamp tools to remove items from photos, such as power lines, discarded tab ends, discarded drinks cans etc.

The question is what has been covered up in the photos? Dunno, but something definitely has.

I don't think there's some secret civilisation living on the moon, nor on Mars. However, I wouldn't be at all surprised if there are some kinds of life-form. I also wouldn't be surprised if other civilisations from other solar systems have visited the moon, earth, mars etc.

Another interesting and very possible theory is to do with time travel. It's already accepted that time doesn't pass at a constant rate. Maybe items such as the Baghdad Battery or the Antikythera Mechanism were left behind by time travellers from the future.

Searching for phrases such as "amonolous objects in coal" and "out of place artifacts" leads to very real objects which simply shouldn't exist.

Here is a very simple question which makes me question everything about evolution. If mankind is descended from monkeys, then how come monkeys are still monkeys? Why have they not evolved?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire

anyone called anyone sheeple yet?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So we have secret people doing secret things in secret ,,,,,,,, but don't ask me how I know this.. "

How on earth do you know th...... DAMN!!!!!!!!!

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By *ongtalljonMan  over a year ago

North Wales


"However, I am also completely and utterly convinced that there has been some coverup about what else was found on the moon and in space.

So what do you suspect they found and what is the basis for your belief? "

I haven't a clue what they found... after all, whatever they found was clearly covered up in some photos by using cloning tools in a photo editing program. However, the evidence for some photos to have been edited using software which is by todays standards simple, but by 1960's standards, very powerful, is clear. Very clear.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

If the moon landings had been created in a studio, there wouldn't have been any wind.

"

You haven't thought what I said through.

You do realise fans were invented in the 1800's right?...

....

..and there is ZERO oxygen in space.

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By *ongtalljonMan  over a year ago

North Wales


"anyone called anyone sheeple yet?

"

I've resisted so far...

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By *ureTemptationWoman  over a year ago

Off the grid

Huge conspiracy theories are around 9/11.

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By *ath_Neil_bifun OP   Couple  over a year ago

near cardiff


"

If the moon landings had been created in a studio, there wouldn't have been any wind.

You haven't thought what I said through.

You do realise fans were invented in the 1800's right?...

....

..and there is ZERO oxygen in space.

"

You need to get on YouTube, forget about your confirmation bias ,and watch the videos that will explain why the flag moves..its so obvious why it does it, and believe it or not it doesn't involve a fan blowing it in a studio....

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By *enard ArgenteMan  over a year ago

London and France


"

If the moon landings had been created in a studio, there wouldn't have been any wind.

You haven't thought what I said through.

You do realise fans were invented in the 1800's right?...

....

..and there is ZERO oxygen in space.

"

There is loads of oxygen in space . Loads of other stuff too.

Anyway, the moon landings conspiracy crap is just that; crap.

Believed by complete fuckwits.

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By *ath_Neil_bifun OP   Couple  over a year ago

near cardiff


"The moon does have some atmosphere although it is very thin. The flag was definitely and clearly supported along it's top edge. If the flag wasn't waving I'd be more concerned.

There are a handful of photographs which have clearly been Photoshopped.

I am completely and utterly convinced and I thoroughly believe that man has indeed stepped foot on the moon. The Nasa landings were not faked.

However, I am also completely and utterly convinced that there has been some coverup about what else was found on the moon and in space.

Oooh! Like what?

(The 'oooh!' Isn't me being bi, it's me being excited)

This is the problem, there are some photos which clearly have been photoshopped. By that, I mean, someone has made use of a clone / stamp tool. Here on earth, photoshop users routinely use clone / stamp tools to remove items from photos, such as power lines, discarded tab ends, discarded drinks cans etc.

The question is what has been covered up in the photos? Dunno, but something definitely has.

I don't think there's some secret civilisation living on the moon, nor on Mars. However, I wouldn't be at all surprised if there are some kinds of life-form. I also wouldn't be surprised if other civilisations from other solar systems have visited the moon, earth, mars etc.

Another interesting and very possible theory is to do with time travel. It's already accepted that time doesn't pass at a constant rate. Maybe items such as the Baghdad Battery or the Antikythera Mechanism were left behind by time travellers from the future.

Searching for phrases such as "amonolous objects in coal" and "out of place artifacts" leads to very real objects which simply shouldn't exist.

Here is a very simple question which makes me question everything about evolution. If mankind is descended from monkeys, then how come monkeys are still monkeys? Why have they not evolved?"

Lol..last one cracked me up..

I take it you have done zero reading on evolution then?

A simple google search will provide you with the answer to that ....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

How come the government is so good at covering up aliens, yet fuck up everything else

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

If the moon landings had been created in a studio, there wouldn't have been any wind.

You haven't thought what I said through.

You do realise fans were invented in the 1800's right?...

....

..and there is ZERO oxygen in space.

You need to get on YouTube, forget about your confirmation bias ,and watch the videos that will explain why the flag moves..its so obvious why it does it, and believe it or not it doesn't involve a fan blowing it in a studio...."

Ah!..you mean...

It was all crumpled in a box and it opened out the way it did..

Because that's the one that NASA are going with.

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By *amrod400Man  over a year ago

belfast

Throwing it out about the van Allen belt around earth .. full of radiation space shuttle or space station can't go past it so how did the apollo rockets ???

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By *ureTemptationWoman  over a year ago

Off the grid


"There are a handful of photographs which have clearly been Photoshopped.

In the 70s "

They used the time machine that the government have, that we're not supposed to know about. It's concrete proof time machines exist in our lifetimes.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This is getting better than the politics threads

Keep it up

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By *ongtalljonMan  over a year ago

North Wales


"Huge conspiracy theories are around 9/11."

You can't counter-attack until after you've been attacked. What happened was very real. However, maybe, some people knew that it was going to happen before it did and just maybe it was allowed to happen.

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By *ureTemptationWoman  over a year ago

Off the grid

The Roswell alien autopsy is interesting, because assuming its faked, it's incredibly unbelievable they had special effects that good back then.

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By *alandNitaCouple  over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"I was always cynical about conspiracy theories but the evidence that Madeleine McCann is dead and parents are suspects is so overwhelming that I'm convinced that higher powers were involved to protect them.

Why? I do not know but Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, telephone to sky news before police, Clarence Mitchell and many other bizarre things make no sense."

I don't do conspiracy theories.

However, there is definitely something not right about the McCann case.

How do parents who abandoned (possibly drugged) their small children manage not to be prosecuted or any action taken for child neglect? Money and influence?

Nita

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

If the moon landings had been created in a studio, there wouldn't have been any wind.

You haven't thought what I said through.

You do realise fans were invented in the 1800's right?...

....

..and there is ZERO oxygen in space.

"

To use a fan within a studio environment would have required a conscious decision to use it - movies had been made for decades by then. I really don't believe a large fan blowing on the "set" wouldn't have been considered out of place given the current knowledge of space and its vacuum properties.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The flag on the moon had a wire or something like that supporting it so it wouldn't be all droopy specifically for the purpose of being in a photo.

According to some NASA dude anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


".

Here is a very simple question which makes me question everything about evolution. If mankind is descended from monkeys, then how come monkeys are still monkeys? Why have they not evolved?"

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Err because we're not evolved from monkeys!! Hell I'm no David Attenborough but even I know that

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

There is loads of oxygen in space . "

You do relaise that in order for Oxygen to exist you need gravity to exist and there is virtually ZERO gravity in space..hence the great big fucking spacesuits astronauts wear to give them the oxygen coupled with the great big monstrous cord attached to them anchored to the frigging spaceship..

And you call me the fuckwit?...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I've seen serious, credible arguments that the moon landing in 1969 didn't happen.

The fact the flag is blowing in "THAT" iconic picture raises serious questions and a colossal amount of doubt for me.

If the moon landings had been created in a studio, there wouldn't have been any wind.

Fan?

"

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By *igerstyle2k2Man  over a year ago

Oxfordshire

I saw a documentary a while back where they addressed the 'waving flag' issue.

The flag material used was like foil - thin metal and attached to the pole (so the top of the flag is a thinner horizontal pole and the flag hanging down).

When the flag was pushed into the surface of the moon the foil of the flag was, of course, going to move back and forth. Given the atmosphere and gravity of the moon, the flag would still be moving once the astronauts moved away from it.

So says the documentary. Makes sense to me.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

the BigFoot loons make me laugh

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By *ath_Neil_bifun OP   Couple  over a year ago

near cardiff


"

If the moon landings had been created in a studio, there wouldn't have been any wind.

You haven't thought what I said through.

You do realise fans were invented in the 1800's right?...

....

..and there is ZERO oxygen in space.

You need to get on YouTube, forget about your confirmation bias ,and watch the videos that will explain why the flag moves..its so obvious why it does it, and believe it or not it doesn't involve a fan blowing it in a studio....

Ah!..you mean...

It was all crumpled in a box and it opened out the way it did..

Because that's the one that NASA are going with.

"

Ah so even when it has been explained to you in a totally rational manner you'll go with the foil hat approach instead.lol...you a 9/11 truther? Do you believe in the illuminati, and the lizard men paedos are running the world? When is Planet X going to hit us? How come the world didn't end in 2012? Does cannabis oil cure cancer? So many to get your teeth into...

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By *andsonjohnMan  over a year ago

in the eye of the storm


"The moon does have some atmosphere although it is very thin. The flag was definitely and clearly supported along it's top edge. If the flag wasn't waving I'd be more concerned.

There are a handful of photographs which have clearly been Photoshopped.

I am completely and utterly convinced and I thoroughly believe that man has indeed stepped foot on the moon. The Nasa landings were not faked.

However, I am also completely and utterly convinced that there has been some coverup about what else was found on the moon and in space.

Oooh! Like what?

(The 'oooh!' Isn't me being bi, it's me being excited)

This is the problem, there are some photos which clearly have been photoshopped. By that, I mean, someone has made use of a clone / stamp tool. Here on earth, photoshop users routinely use clone / stamp tools to remove items from photos, such as power lines, discarded tab ends, discarded drinks cans etc.

The question is what has been covered up in the photos? Dunno, but something definitely has.

I don't think there's some secret civilisation living on the moon, nor on Mars. However, I wouldn't be at all surprised if there are some kinds of life-form. I also wouldn't be surprised if other civilisations from other solar systems have visited the moon, earth, mars etc.

Another interesting and very possible theory is to do with time travel. It's already accepted that time doesn't pass at a constant rate. Maybe items such as the Baghdad Battery or the Antikythera Mechanism were left behind by time travellers from the future.

Searching for phrases such as "amonolous objects in coal" and "out of place artifacts" leads to very real objects which simply shouldn't exist.

Here is a very simple question which makes me question everything about evolution. If mankind is descended from monkeys, then how come monkeys are still monkeys? Why have they not evolved?

Lol..last one cracked me up..

I take it you have done zero reading on evolution then?

A simple google search will provide you with the answer to that ...."

time travel if it happens or exists fella would be impossible to detect because of the multi universe theory and the cause and causality effect in action .

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By *ureTemptationWoman  over a year ago

Off the grid

I watched the documentary looking for the Loch Ness Monster, and was more than a bit gutted when they scanned the entire lake and didn't find anything.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Ah so even when it has been explained to you in a totally rational manner you'll go with the foil hat approach instead.lol...you a 9/11 truther? Do you believe in the illuminati, and the lizard men paedos are running the world? When is Planet X going to hit us? How come the world didn't end in 2012? Does cannabis oil cure cancer? So many to get your teeth into..."

Ok..with that comment alone I can see you're looking for an argument and not a debate.

/out.

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By *ongtalljonMan  over a year ago

North Wales

Above all other conspiracy theories, there is one which I firmly, totally and utterly believe.

That the world is dominated by a handful of very powerful people and that the press / media are controlled by very powerful people.

For the past 6 years, I have travelled extensively throughout Europe, I have met people from all walks of life and I've gone out, got out, seen, experienced life. I was in Belgium when Bruxelles was on lockdown. I have met people who were in the twin towers. I have travelled through Calais several times a month. I have a colleague who was in Paris on the night of the Bataclan events.

The reality is totally different to the way it is portrayed by the press.

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

More than anything else, it's the allure of subjects that are bizarre, misguided and just wrong, impervious to reason or logic...

Why do humans believe such shit?

We should be told!

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By *ath_Neil_bifun OP   Couple  over a year ago

near cardiff


"I watched the documentary looking for the Loch Ness Monster, and was more than a bit gutted when they scanned the entire lake and didn't find anything."

Imagine how many thousands of Loch Ness monsters are needed to keep a species going...I find it hard to believe that people still believe in it..

Has the internet just turned people into even dumber versions of ourselves?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I always like listening to documentaries about "ancient alien theorists." The things they believe in are just mad.

Apparently the pyramids, stone henge etc were not alexcellent examples of our ancestors handy work. No, they were led by aliens, and stone henge was a space station! Certain Pharos were aliens too, hence there long sloping heads.

Amazing what they put out on H2...

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By *inky-MinxWoman  over a year ago

Grantham


"There are a handful of photographs which have clearly been Photoshopped.

In the 70s

They used the time machine that the government have, that we're not supposed to know about. It's concrete proof time machines exist in our lifetimes."

I'll buy that

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By *igjrvMan  over a year ago

blackwood

Moon landing was real.

Later explorations and powerful telescopes can see the landing site and debris that was left behind.

9/11 bigtime planned by super elite for gaining enough support to invade iraq and Afghanistan For the control of the oil of finances.

Jfk. Was assassinated by his own people. He was apposed to the veitnam war. Wars make money bigtime.

The whole worlds population is controlled. By few groups of people. They are very powerful, rich and secret. Freemasons, iluminati, Rothschild family etc.

The biggest global corporations have more power than the governments. We are sheep. We follow. We believe anything they tell us.

This is just an opinion.

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By *ongtalljonMan  over a year ago

North Wales


"I was always cynical about conspiracy theories but the evidence that Madeleine McCann is dead and parents are suspects is so overwhelming that I'm convinced that higher powers were involved to protect them.

Why? I do not know but Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, telephone to sky news before police, Clarence Mitchell and many other bizarre things make no sense.

I've not even started about dogs smelling death or Gerry McCann buying a fridge for an apartment that can't be traced!

Conspiracy theories I believe are often not as crazy as mainstream opinion often says it is."

This.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Moon landing was real.

Later explorations and powerful telescopes can see the landing site and debris that was left behind.

9/11 bigtime planned by super elite for gaining enough support to invade iraq and Afghanistan For the control of the oil of finances.

Jfk. Was assassinated by his own people. He was apposed to the veitnam war. Wars make money bigtime.

The whole worlds population is controlled. By few groups of people. They are very powerful, rich and secret. Freemasons, iluminati, Rothschild family etc.

The biggest global corporations have more power than the governments. We are sheep. We follow. We believe anything they tell us.

This is just an opinion.

"

Am I a sheep if I don't believe you?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It wasn't the Titanic that sunk!

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By *alandNitaCouple  over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"Moon landing was real.

Later explorations and powerful telescopes can see the landing site and debris that was left behind.

9/11 bigtime planned by super elite for gaining enough support to invade iraq and Afghanistan For the control of the oil of finances.

Jfk. Was assassinated by his own people. He was apposed to the veitnam war. Wars make money bigtime.

The whole worlds population is controlled. By few groups of people. They are very powerful, rich and secret. Freemasons, iluminati, Rothschild family etc.

The biggest global corporations have more power than the governments. We are sheep. We follow. We believe anything they tell us.

This is just an opinion.

"

Moon landings... Spot on.

The rest. Sorry, great for plot lines in novels but I just don't buy it.

Nita

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I watched the documentary looking for the Loch Ness Monster, and was more than a bit gutted when they scanned the entire lake and didn't find anything.

Imagine how many thousands of Loch Ness monsters are needed to keep a species going...I find it hard to believe that people still believe in it..

Has the internet just turned people into even dumber versions of ourselves?"

.

Some large dinosaurs were thought to live up to a hundred years old!.

At that age two or three could last 150? Years, it's a jolly big bit of water is all I know, it took me ages to walk around it many many moons ago.... Oh and I didn't get attacked by werewolves either.... At least I think I didn't

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By *ongtalljonMan  over a year ago

North Wales


"Moon landing was real.

Later explorations and powerful telescopes can see the landing site and debris that was left behind.

9/11 bigtime planned by super elite for gaining enough support to invade iraq and Afghanistan For the control of the oil of finances.

Jfk. Was assassinated by his own people. He was apposed to the veitnam war. Wars make money bigtime.

The whole worlds population is controlled. By few groups of people. They are very powerful, rich and secret. Freemasons, iluminati, Rothschild family etc.

The biggest global corporations have more power than the governments. We are sheep. We follow. We believe anything they tell us.

This is just an opinion.

"

This.

And the current talk about WW3.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Moon landing was real.

Later explorations and powerful telescopes can see the landing site and debris that was left behind..

"

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They landed on the far side, how the hell do you see the landing site with a telescope... I'm genuinely curious

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

And the current talk about WW3. "

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I haven't seen any talk about ww3 except on conspiracy theory sites.

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By *ath_Neil_bifun OP   Couple  over a year ago

near cardiff


"Moon landing was real.

Later explorations and powerful telescopes can see the landing site and debris that was left behind.

9/11 bigtime planned by super elite for gaining enough support to invade iraq and Afghanistan For the control of the oil of finances.

Jfk. Was assassinated by his own people. He was apposed to the veitnam war. Wars make money bigtime.

The whole worlds population is controlled. By few groups of people. They are very powerful, rich and secret. Freemasons, iluminati, Rothschild family etc.

The biggest global corporations have more power than the governments. We are sheep. We follow. We believe anything they tell us.

This is just an opinion.

This.

And the current talk about WW3. "

I've read some interesting stuff from reputable people arguing that we are already in the middle of world war three

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By *igjrvMan  over a year ago

blackwood

No they never they landed just south of the sea of tranquility.

How could they plan to land the lunar module in a place they couldnt see?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I've seen serious, credible arguments that the moon landing in 1969 didn't happen.

The fact the flag is blowing in "THAT" iconic picture raises serious questions and a colossal amount of doubt for me.

Really? It's just inertial movement with three degrees of motion in an undamped environment. "

This was proven by putting a flag on a pole in a vacuum chamber with an electric motor to wiggle it as if being planted, the energy shook the flag for a long time so this conspiracy myth is busted

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By *alandNitaCouple  over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"Moon landing was real.

Later explorations and powerful telescopes can see the landing site and debris that was left behind..

.

They landed on the far side, how the hell do you see the landing site with a telescope... I'm genuinely curious"

Try this

http://www.universetoday.com/111188/how-do-we-know-the-moon-landing-isnt-fake/

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Moon landing was real.

Later explorations and powerful telescopes can see the landing site and debris that was left behind..

.

They landed on the far side, how the hell do you see the landing site with a telescope... I'm genuinely curious"

Haven't you seen those telescopic mirrors plumbers use?

One of those obviously

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By *ath_Neil_bifun OP   Couple  over a year ago

near cardiff


"I watched the documentary looking for the Loch Ness Monster, and was more than a bit gutted when they scanned the entire lake and didn't find anything.

Imagine how many thousands of Loch Ness monsters are needed to keep a species going...I find it hard to believe that people still believe in it..

Has the internet just turned people into even dumber versions of ourselves?.

Some large dinosaurs were thought to live up to a hundred years old!.

At that age two or three could last 150? Years, it's a jolly big bit of water is all I know, it took me ages to walk around it many many moons ago.... Oh and I didn't get attacked by werewolves either.... At least I think I didn't "

Were you seduced by any depressing looking teenagers that gave you the urge to want to punch them in their poorly acted faces(18+)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Hey listen guys..guys...

I've got one last thing to say.

The alleged moon landing was in 1969 in an age where technology was pretty much primitive compared to where we are now in 2016, at least in the last 20 years.

Yet NOBODY has ever touched the moon ever since..yet they did it in 1969?

I'm just putting that out there....

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By *igjrvMan  over a year ago

blackwood

What part don't you understand. 9/11? Why is it that the only plane to be allowed to take off after the attacks contained bin ladens family.

Before the attacks all the country's that surround iraq closed its airspace to foreign military making it impossible to to get to saddam. A man that controlled one of the world's biggest supplies of oil, and would not allow Rothschild bank into the country.

After the attacks. Oil flows to the western world and the dollar is currency.

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By *enard ArgenteMan  over a year ago

London and France


"

There is loads of oxygen in space .

You do relaise that in order for Oxygen to exist you need gravity to exist and there is virtually ZERO gravity in space..hence the great big fucking spacesuits astronauts wear to give them the oxygen coupled with the great big monstrous cord attached to them anchored to the frigging spaceship..

And you call me the fuckwit?...

"

You have just proved it beyond any doubt

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By *amrod400Man  over a year ago

belfast

Nobody answered my van Allen belt question!

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By *ureTemptationWoman  over a year ago

Off the grid

Scary conspiracy theory with far reaching consequences - "MMR causes autism".

By a now stuck off doctor that performed invasive procedures on autistic children without the approval of an ethics committee, and he's still making a ton of money off his claims and people believe him enough to endanger their kids.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

OMG I watched a documentary on YouTube about elvis signing his own death certificate and appearing in photos in his house after his death.

I didn't sleep for two days thinking it all over. It was amazing.

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By *ath_Neil_bifun OP   Couple  over a year ago

near cardiff


"Hey listen guys..guys...

I've got one last thing to say.

The alleged moon landing was in 1969 in an age where technology was pretty much primitive compared to where we are now in 2016, at least in the last 20 years.

Yet NOBODY has ever touched the moon ever since..yet they did it in 1969?

I'm just putting that out there.... "

Last apollo landing was in 1972......Chinese will be there soon enough..

Well obviously we had the tech to get there because they landed there. It's not a difficult engineering problem. We had rockets tech, we could build air tight containers. A little bit of maths to figure out the payload of fuel, find a few nutters to sit in it and bang!

staying permanently would have been another thing altogether though.I seriously hope that in my life time there is a permanent moon base.

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By *igjrvMan  over a year ago

blackwood

Sad so sad

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Nobody answered my van Allen belt question!"

David Lee Roth was amazing

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By *inky-MinxWoman  over a year ago

Grantham


"Hey listen guys..guys...

I've got one last thing to say.

The alleged moon landing was in 1969 in an age where technology was pretty much primitive compared to where we are now in 2016, at least in the last 20 years.

Yet NOBODY has ever touched the moon ever since..yet they did it in 1969?

I'm just putting that out there.... "

They went back several times until the budget ran out. That's why.

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By *alandNitaCouple  over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"

Yet NOBODY has ever touched the moon ever since..yet they did it in 1969?

I'm just putting that out there.... "

There were actually 6 moon landings... with (irc) 11 people having walked on the moon

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By *enard ArgenteMan  over a year ago

London and France


"

There is loads of oxygen in space .

You do relaise that in order for Oxygen to exist you need gravity to exist and there is virtually ZERO gravity in space..hence the great big fucking spacesuits astronauts wear to give them the oxygen coupled with the great big monstrous cord attached to them anchored to the frigging spaceship..

And you call me the fuckwit?...

"

and by the way; there is gravity in space; gravity is everywhere,

Before you start spouting crap, go do some very basic physics

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"Hey listen guys..guys...

I've got one last thing to say.

The alleged moon landing was in 1969 in an age where technology was pretty much primitive compared to where we are now in 2016, at least in the last 20 years.

Yet NOBODY has ever touched the moon ever since..yet they did it in 1969?

I'm just putting that out there.... "

There were people on the moon in the 70's too.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"God the internet can be so depressing..

The shit people believe is shocking..

Fuck all that peer reviewed bollocks, you are much better off listening to some guy on YouTube, and his pseudo science bs..

But saying that I do love watching em..does anyone have a favourite they wish were true?

"

I made a thread on this a while ago and was directed to watch several youtube videos by experts...or as I call them, paranoid fucknuts.

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By *obletonMan  over a year ago

A Home Among The Woodland Creatures


"Nobody answered my van Allen belt question!"

have you tried google?

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By *ath_Neil_bifun OP   Couple  over a year ago

near cardiff


"Scary conspiracy theory with far reaching consequences - "MMR causes autism".

By a now stuck off doctor that performed invasive procedures on autistic children without the approval of an ethics committee, and he's still making a ton of money off his claims and people believe him enough to endanger their kids.

"

This is quite a big thing in America with the looney tunes out there...don't worry about all that science,and evidence believe the discredited claims of a disgrace of a human being..sad state of affairs

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By *artytwoCouple  over a year ago

Wolverhampton

The 9/11 stuff on u-toob is utterly fascinating. There is so much of it and some of the anomalies and various theories are quite convincing. Only in America eh?

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"Hey listen guys..guys...

I've got one last thing to say.

The alleged moon landing was in 1969 in an age where technology was pretty much primitive compared to where we are now in 2016, at least in the last 20 years.

Yet NOBODY has ever touched the moon ever since..yet they did it in 1969?

I'm just putting that out there....

There were people on the moon in the 70's too. "

We could see them as they had flares.

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

This ain't a conspiracy but annoying all the same - when I was a kid we had these text books at school that showed sad looking GREY dinosaurs and these days they are multi coloured and have feathers.

I GOT TOLD OFF FOR COLOURING IN A GREY DINOSAUR!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

and by the way; there is gravity in space; gravity is everywhere,

Before you start spouting crap, go do some very basic physics "

Ok sorry Grandad.

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By *ath_Neil_bifun OP   Couple  over a year ago

near cardiff


"Nobody answered my van Allen belt question!"

I'm happy to overcome your confirmation bias, and google the answer for you if it's to psychologically traumatic for you to do so?however I must warn that even if I give you the answer me the odds are you still won't believe it, and soon forget it anyway...:so the what the real question really is can I be arsed to to do that knowing it'll probably be a waste of my precious wanking time..hmmmmmmm....

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By *ath_Neil_bifun OP   Couple  over a year ago

near cardiff


"The 9/11 stuff on u-toob is utterly fascinating. There is so much of it and some of the anomalies and various theories are quite convincing. Only in America eh?"

I love the 9/11 stuff..some really compelling stuff in there..but I just don't think the yanks planned it..all the evidence they put forward is easily refuted.

Clinton couldn't even keep a cum stained dress a secret so how the fuck has Dubba Bush not been busted in this yet with the amount of people that had to have been involved..

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By *enard ArgenteMan  over a year ago

London and France


"Nobody answered my van Allen belt question!"

How long have you got?

1.Apollo went through the thin area of the Van Allan belt

2. Apollo's thermal insulation was also the perfect shielding material for van Allen belt radiation

3. A spaceship would have to remain in the Van Allen belt for several weeks for the astronauts to receive the same dose of radiation that is regarded as the maximum yearly dose for nuclear workers. Apollo transited the Zvsn Allen Belt in a matter of hours .

The full explanation would take about 5000 words .

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By *ightfall79Man  over a year ago

Dunbartonshire

The Syrian "war" the biggest false flag ever. Thus us a war created over oil and nothing else. USA wants Bashar-Al-Assad out as he said no to a oil pipeline from Qatar to run through Turkey and into Europe.

This is one if the biggest oil deals yet in the middle East and Qatar needed Syria to allow them to feed the pipeline through the country.

Syria said no so not to undermine the Russian gas deal with Europe. Hence why Russia are involved in Syria. All this talk about fighting ISIS in Syria is complete nonsense.

This is a war over natural gas and oil and one if the biggest deals in the middle East.

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By *ohnaronMan  over a year ago

london


"I've seen serious, credible arguments that the moon landing in 1969 didn't happen.

The fact the flag is blowing in "THAT" iconic picture raises serious questions and a colossal amount of doubt for me.

Ah the moon landing ones are funny but for every reason the moon landing was hoaxed there is a more than credible reason to counter the hoax claim.I don't believe the moon landing was a fake"

There were an awful lot of professional and amateur radio antennae pointed at the moon. Very difficult to fake doppler shift from orbiter that not be immediately obvious. Plus telemetry from lander. The landing, although a stupendous feat, was easier to do than fake.

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By *amrod400Man  over a year ago

belfast

Take it everybody knows Stanley Kubrick made the moon landing films .. left clues in all the rest of his movies

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I watched the documentary looking for the Loch Ness Monster, and was more than a bit gutted when they scanned the entire lake and didn't find anything.

Imagine how many thousands of Loch Ness monsters are needed to keep a species going...I find it hard to believe that people still believe in it..

Has the internet just turned people into even dumber versions of ourselves?.

Some large dinosaurs were thought to live up to a hundred years old!.

At that age two or three could last 150? Years, it's a jolly big bit of water is all I know, it took me ages to walk around it many many moons ago.... Oh and I didn't get attacked by werewolves either.... At least I think I didn't

Were you seduced by any depressing looking teenagers that gave you the urge to want to punch them in their poorly acted faces(18+) "

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Ha no I did try seducing some depressed looking teenagers though in the end they out drank me and left me pissed in my tent! ..

I'd wish I'd seen Nessie now instead lol

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By *ath_Neil_bifun OP   Couple  over a year ago

near cardiff


"I've seen serious, credible arguments that the moon landing in 1969 didn't happen.

The fact the flag is blowing in "THAT" iconic picture raises serious questions and a colossal amount of doubt for me.

Ah the moon landing ones are funny but for every reason the moon landing was hoaxed there is a more than credible reason to counter the hoax claim.I don't believe the moon landing was a fake

There were an awful lot of professional and amateur radio antennae pointed at the moon. Very difficult to fake doppler shift from orbiter that not be immediately obvious. Plus telemetry from lander. The landing, although a stupendous feat, was easier to do than fake."

I'm sure the university of Coventry tracked apollo for three days as it made its way to the moon.....

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By *ath_Neil_bifun OP   Couple  over a year ago

near cardiff


"Take it everybody knows Stanley Kubrick made the moon landing films .. left clues in all the rest of his movies"

He should have made a film on all the robots landers NASA must have made in the 60's and 70's to bring back all that moon rock, and dust back to terra firma

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By *ath_Neil_bifun OP   Couple  over a year ago

near cardiff


"The Syrian "war" the biggest false flag ever. Thus us a war created over oil and nothing else. USA wants Bashar-Al-Assad out as he said no to a oil pipeline from Qatar to run through Turkey and into Europe.

This is one if the biggest oil deals yet in the middle East and Qatar needed Syria to allow them to feed the pipeline through the country.

Syria said no so not to undermine the Russian gas deal with Europe. Hence why Russia are involved in Syria. All this talk about fighting ISIS in Syria is complete nonsense.

This is a war over natural gas and oil and one if the biggest deals in the middle East. "

This I don't doubt..we only give a fuck about the Middle East for one reason. Oil.. if there was no oil there all would ever hear from the Middle East is which country Israel just kicked the shit out of again...

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By *ongtalljonMan  over a year ago

North Wales


"I was always cynical about conspiracy theories but the evidence that Madeleine McCann is dead and parents are suspects is so overwhelming that I'm convinced that higher powers were involved to protect them.

Why? I do not know but Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, telephone to sky news before police, Clarence Mitchell and many other bizarre things make no sense.

I've not even started about dogs smelling death or Gerry McCann buying a fridge for an apartment that can't be traced!

Conspiracy theories I believe are often not as crazy as mainstream opinion often says it is..

That's slightly different as it's a mystery to everyone officially,! Yours is just one of many possible scenarios"

Correct when each scenario is taken individually. The reason though that many people doubt the McCanns is because of the amount of controversial coincidences.

Conspiracy theories deal with the unknown. Conspiracy theories appear when it is perfectly clear that the truth is in some way being hidden.

If the truth is hidden, then it is hidden, however, I do know when I'm being filled with bullshit.

One of my favourite phrases is "You can't bullshit a bullshitter". This has got me into many arguments with bullshitters.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

what is fucking amazing is that people who believe some of this fucking trash , sit on tv's,phones,computers,the internet...not realizing most of it comes from physics!- repeated experiments,theorized experiments using maths etc etc...

when I point out such scientists eistein,hawking and more...we are greeted by the fact they work for the establishment etc etc..

I've read about the moon or the sun being seethru,evidenced by pictures OMG.get a fucking digital camera and learn what ISO is......sad and pathetic...even worse if they claim to have a science background.....

an astrphyscist made a joke about seeing nibiru a few months ago.my god...... it lured out every flatearthalienshapeshiftingreptillianilluminati believing whacko...

cos nasa shut him up...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

there are also some great videos of beyonce turning into a demon too....amazing

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Right now we're all warmed up nice and limber.....

Who's up for a discussion on the reptilian race shackled up in Buckingham palace?

Serious debate only please

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Right now we're all warmed up nice and limber.....

Who's up for a discussion on the reptilian race shackled up in Buckingham palace?

Serious debate only please "

they aint shackled..they are in power

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By *alandNitaCouple  over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"Right now we're all warmed up nice and limber.....

Who's up for a discussion on the reptilian race shackled up in Buckingham palace?

Serious debate only please "

Ooh you mean like those in Dr Who?

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Nisa is nicer than NASA in Nassau.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Right now we're all warmed up nice and limber.....

Who's up for a discussion on the reptilian race shackled up in Buckingham palace?

Serious debate only please

Ooh you mean like those in Dr Who? "

never heard such a lot of turdis in my life

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By *ongtalljonMan  over a year ago

North Wales


"Take it everybody knows Stanley Kubrick made the moon landing films .. left clues in all the rest of his movies"

Aah, so the moon is a clockwork orange... Damn, and I thought it was cream cheese!

Seriously though, I suppose the moon and an orange are both spherical and the surfaces are pretty similar...... Perhaps the keyhole for winding up the clockwork mechanism is on the dark side of the moon - that's why we've never seen it!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The flag was wire in it. Do you really think uf ut was faked they wouldnt have thought about the flag flying. Jesus there are some realy stupid people about

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I don't get this 'it's got wire in it' - the recharging lead to my iPhone has wire in it but it ain't floating about BUT I have a kite that's does not have wire in it and it floats about quite happily.

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By *ongtalljonMan  over a year ago

North Wales


"Right now we're all warmed up nice and limber.....

Who's up for a discussion on the reptilian race shackled up in Buckingham palace?

Serious debate only please "

Well, I would be doubtful as to whether after the changing of the guard, they change into slithering, hissing reptilian monsters, slithering around Buckingham Palace.

However, where there's smoke, there's fire. Blue blood. That our queen is "English" is beyond belief. Spend a while reading about the Normans, the Tudors, the Vikings, The Hapsburgs and you soon realise just what a melting pot of foreigners the UK truly is. Just like America, with it's pilgrims, president Barack Obama and it's scientist who put man on the moon, Wernher von Braun.

I have no doubt that in the event of some nuclear apocalypse, the government will meet with the royalty, the bankers, and the industrialists in the super bunker underneath the MOD buildings around Whitehall.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple  over a year ago

In your bed

The most useful thing about a conspiracy is that it's a useful distraction from very real issues.

I love the flag on the moon one, its as though no-one ever bothered to read the laws of motion.

You don't need wind to have movement.

Oh yes and let's ignore the fact that they brought bits back to be tested by scientists and that other countries can send probes to easily photograph the landing sites.

If it was a hoax they would have had to has fessed up by now as the Russians, Chinese, Europeans, North Koreans and even young timmy down the road would have been able to disprove it by now.

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

It reminds me of the story in the series 'V' all about conspiracies and cures and scientists and lizards etc.

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By *ongtalljonMan  over a year ago

North Wales


"I don't get this 'it's got wire in it' - the recharging lead to my iPhone has wire in it but it ain't floating about BUT I have a kite that's does not have wire in it and it floats about quite happily. "

But your iPhone has multi-stranded wire which is designed to be flexible. The flag had a single wire / pole / bar along the top edge which kept the top edge still and flat. The surprising bit was the lower parts of the flag which were wafting about and not supported by either a pole, wire, bar, or any other fixed thing.

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"I don't get this 'it's got wire in it' - the recharging lead to my iPhone has wire in it but it ain't floating about BUT I have a kite that's does not have wire in it and it floats about quite happily.

But your iPhone has multi-stranded wire which is designed to be flexible. The flag had a single wire / pole / bar along the top edge which kept the top edge still and flat. The surprising bit was the lower parts of the flag which were wafting about and not supported by either a pole, wire, bar, or any other fixed thing."

Maybe one of the guys pushed it and the inertia of a solid object in a near vacuum was made to move by the force exerted like what Newton said.

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By *ath_Neil_bifun OP   Couple  over a year ago

near cardiff


"Right now we're all warmed up nice and limber.....

Who's up for a discussion on the reptilian race shackled up in Buckingham palace?

Serious debate only please "

I just watched twenty minutes of David Icke bang on about this..some sort of alien race that interbred with humans all over the world back in the day. Their offspring have the ability to shape shift between lizard and human at will.Perfect disguise for wold leaders.which is convenient.

Notable lizards to keep an eye out for...George Bush...Our Liz....Diana knew they were a lizard bloodline..

Ted Heath was one to.got busted shape shifting whilst performing a satanic ritual in the woods in London.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I've seen serious, credible arguments that the moon landing in 1969 didn't happen.

The fact the flag is blowing in "THAT" iconic picture raises serious questions and a colossal amount of doubt for me. "

Tell me your not actually serious?

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By *ath_Neil_bifun OP   Couple  over a year ago

near cardiff


"I don't get this 'it's got wire in it' - the recharging lead to my iPhone has wire in it but it ain't floating about BUT I have a kite that's does not have wire in it and it floats about quite happily.

But your iPhone has multi-stranded wire which is designed to be flexible. The flag had a single wire / pole / bar along the top edge which kept the top edge still and flat. The surprising bit was the lower parts of the flag which were wafting about and not supported by either a pole, wire, bar, or any other fixed thing.

Maybe one of the guys pushed it and the inertia of a solid object in a near vacuum was made to move by the force exerted like what Newton said. "

Yeah but that sounds way to much like science and I got smarts see.. newton don't know what he was on about. Probably brain damaged from all that gravity in the apple that hit him on the head. Must have been a twat sitting under that tree anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Capricorn one film ............. nuff said lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Here is a very simple question which makes me question everything about evolution. If mankind is descended from monkeys, then how come monkeys are still monkeys? Why have they not evolved?"

With a very simple answer: humans did not evolve from monkeys, or apes. Humans, monkeys and apes have a common ancestor. All three groups have evolved subsequently to that.

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"I don't get this 'it's got wire in it' - the recharging lead to my iPhone has wire in it but it ain't floating about BUT I have a kite that's does not have wire in it and it floats about quite happily.

But your iPhone has multi-stranded wire which is designed to be flexible. The flag had a single wire / pole / bar along the top edge which kept the top edge still and flat. The surprising bit was the lower parts of the flag which were wafting about and not supported by either a pole, wire, bar, or any other fixed thing.

Maybe one of the guys pushed it and the inertia of a solid object in a near vacuum was made to move by the force exerted like what Newton said.

Yeah but that sounds way to much like science and I got smarts see.. newton don't know what he was on about. Probably brain damaged from all that gravity in the apple that hit him on the head. Must have been a twat sitting under that tree anyway."

Yeah. Fucking Newton. They seriously want me to believe he sat under a tree, an apple fell in his head and he thought 'oh! Why didn't it fall upwards!' Bollocks! He probably shouted 'fuck you apple' and lobbed it over a hedge. Then went in and made a little desk toy.

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By *yrdwomanWoman  over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

There are several mirrors on the moon used to measure how far the moon is from us by bouncing lasers off them and timing the return. They didn't float up there by themselves. Anyway, if the moon landings were faked the Russians would have uncovered it years ago. they lost a lot of face in that race.

Same with 9/11. The amount of paperwork needed to cover up any conspiracy would be impossible to keep quiet.

I am a great believer in Occam Razor. If something has a simple explanation, why believe a conspiracy theory that needlessly complicates things?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I've seen serious, credible arguments that the moon landing in 1969 didn't happen.

The fact the flag is blowing in "THAT" iconic picture raises serious questions and a colossal amount of doubt for me.

Tell me your not actually serious?"

Oh I'm serious.

There has been and (still is ongoing) debates about this by extremely smart people.

I'm talking top level people.

Btw..the flag thing ISN'T the only thing brought into question.

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Thunderbirds was set in 2065, UFO was set in 1980 and Space 1999 sometime, so why......was there 3 programmes with dates in them that add up to 6044?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

There is loads of oxygen in space .

You do relaise that in order for Oxygen to exist you need gravity to exist and there is virtually ZERO gravity in space..hence the great big fucking spacesuits astronauts wear to give them the oxygen coupled with the great big monstrous cord attached to them anchored to the frigging spaceship..

And you call me the fuckwit?...

"

Are you for real or just trying to provoke?

Firstly, going with newtonian concepts of gravity, there IS gravity in space. How else does the moon go round the Earth and the Earth round the Sun etc?

Elements, all of them, exist with or without gravity, it's got no bearing on them.

And, we're all made from the elements made in dying stars.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Thunderbirds was set in 2065, UFO was set in 1980 and Space 1999 sometime, so why......was there 3 programmes with dates in them that add up to 6044? "

Muha!

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Let's not mention the secret organisation '33' in the Disney films

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Did you know that Big Ben casts a shadow like a giant sun dial? Try googling who lives in the houses and apartments that the point hits. Clue: incredibly wealthy at the solstice points.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I've seen serious, credible arguments that the moon landing in 1969 didn't happen.

The fact the flag is blowing in "THAT" iconic picture raises serious questions and a colossal amount of doubt for me.

Tell me your not actually serious?

Oh I'm serious.

There has been and (still is ongoing) debates about this by extremely smart people.

I'm talking top level people.

Btw..the flag thing ISN'T the only thing brought into question."

Name one, please, just one extremely smart person in this contexy. Please.

There are NO things that bring the landings into question, not a single one.

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By *ubbykittenWoman  over a year ago

Kent


"Moon landing was real.

Later explorations and powerful telescopes can see the landing site and debris that was left behind.

9/11 bigtime planned by super elite for gaining enough support to invade iraq and Afghanistan For the control of the oil of finances.

Jfk. Was assassinated by his own people. He was apposed to the veitnam war. Wars make money bigtime.

The whole worlds population is controlled. By few groups of people. They are very powerful, rich and secret. Freemasons, iluminati, Rothschild family etc.

The biggest global corporations have more power than the governments. We are sheep. We follow. We believe anything they tell us.

This is just an opinion.

"

Agreed!

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By *ongtalljonMan  over a year ago

North Wales


"Thunderbirds was set in 2065, UFO was set in 1980 and Space 1999 sometime, so why......was there 3 programmes with dates in them that add up to 6044? "

6044..... arrrghhh no, not 6044.

You shouldn't have mentioned 6044....

It's a postcode in Western Australia, a Lego Kings Carriage, an EasyJet flight from Palma to Bristol and an SKF deep groove ball bearing.....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Thunderbirds was set in 2065, UFO was set in 1980 and Space 1999 sometime, so why......was there 3 programmes with dates in them that add up to 6044?

Muha! "

I do like your status today:

"Expecting an idiot to admit they're wrong feels a lot like trying to put socks on an octopus."

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By *enard ArgenteMan  over a year ago

London and France


"I've seen serious, credible arguments that the moon landing in 1969 didn't happen.

The fact the flag is blowing in "THAT" iconic picture raises serious questions and a colossal amount of doubt for me.

Tell me your not actually serious?

Oh I'm serious.

There has been and (still is ongoing) debates about this by extremely smart people.

I'm talking top level people.

Btw..the flag thing ISN'T the only thing brought into question."

Err no , by very stupid people; people who are ridiculed by anyone with the faintest bit of common sense or scientific knowledge.

Or people who are rather bad failures, do make up stuff to try to be " famous".

And certainly not " top level" people of any gravitas whatsoever .

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London

The problem with the vast majority of these conspiracy theories is how organised they would have to be and how committed every single person involved would have had to be to keeping it secret.

With the moon landings, we're talking about loads of NASA employees, and presumably the President and other senior politicians. But no one ever decided to tell the truth? Or accidentally leaked some information?

It's daft.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

What I find so suprising about those who can not or will not believe in the science behind any particular concept is that they still use mobile phones, computers, satellite TV and satnav, fly in planes, drive cars, etc, etc, etc.

If the science is wrong for their pet hobbyhorse then it would be wrong for all of these too and they wouldn't work!

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By *enard ArgenteMan  over a year ago

London and France


"Thunderbirds was set in 2065, UFO was set in 1980 and Space 1999 sometime, so why......was there 3 programmes with dates in them that add up to 6044?

Muha!

I do like your status today:

"Expecting an idiot to admit they're wrong feels a lot like trying to put socks on an octopus."

"

Hilariously ironic....

But

I prefer the arguing with an idiot/playing chess with a pigeon one personally

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Thunderbirds was set in 2065, UFO was set in 1980 and Space 1999 sometime, so why......was there 3 programmes with dates in them that add up to 6044?

Muha!

I do like your status today:

"Expecting an idiot to admit they're wrong feels a lot like trying to put socks on an octopus."

Hilariously ironic....

But

I prefer the arguing with an idiot/playing chess with a pigeon one personally "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The problem with the vast majority of these conspiracy theories is how organised they would have to be and how committed every single person involved would have had to be to keeping it secret.

With the moon landings, we're talking about loads of NASA employees, and presumably the President and other senior politicians. But no one ever decided to tell the truth? Or accidentally leaked some information?

It's daft."

Exactly, over 80 000 people I believe.

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By *ongtalljonMan  over a year ago

North Wales


"The problem with the vast majority of these conspiracy theories is how organised they would have to be and how committed every single person involved would have had to be to keeping it secret.

With the moon landings, we're talking about loads of NASA employees, and presumably the President and other senior politicians. But no one ever decided to tell the truth? Or accidentally leaked some information?

It's daft."

Not really.

What is the pin number for your cash / debit / credit card?

You not telling?

Okay, so you want me to believe that out of the millions of shareholders of your bank, the hundreds of thousands of workers at your bank, the tens of thousands of contract workers for your bank, the thousands of shareholders of your bank, the dozens of members of your family, you are the only person in the whole wide world who knows your pin number?

Really?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What I find so suprising about those who can not or will not believe in the science behind any particular concept is that they still use mobile phones, computers, satellite TV and satnav, fly in planes, drive cars, etc, etc, etc.

If the science is wrong for their pet hobbyhorse then it would be wrong for all of these too and they wouldn't work!"

er I did say that earlier......

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The problem with the vast majority of these conspiracy theories is how organised they would have to be and how committed every single person involved would have had to be to keeping it secret.

With the moon landings, we're talking about loads of NASA employees, and presumably the President and other senior politicians. But no one ever decided to tell the truth? Or accidentally leaked some information?

It's daft.

Not really.

What is the pin number for your cash / debit / credit card?

You not telling?

Okay, so you want me to believe that out of the millions of shareholders of your bank, the hundreds of thousands of workers at your bank, the tens of thousands of contract workers for your bank, the thousands of shareholders of your bank, the dozens of members of your family, you are the only person in the whole wide world who knows your pin number?

Really? "

Really, why not?

I haven't told anyone and no person at the bank knows. So how would I not be?

But, in any case, what on earth has your point got to do with the NASA ond you quote?

Even if a bank employee did know my PIN, there's very little reason for them to tell anyone. But if they knew the moon landings were fake? Now that would be worth blabbing about!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What I find so suprising about those who can not or will not believe in the science behind any particular concept is that they still use mobile phones, computers, satellite TV and satnav, fly in planes, drive cars, etc, etc, etc.

If the science is wrong for their pet hobbyhorse then it would be wrong for all of these too and they wouldn't work!

er I did say that earlier......"

Indeed you did mate, I should have credited you

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Moon photos.....photoshop hadn't been invented!

The flag vibrates a bit, initially. It never waved at any time!

The module, etc, was tracked from many countries on earth. The signals were sent from the moon. They were picked up even in Russia, who were in competition at the time and would have blown the yanks out the water if any fakery.

It's like if your sky dish isn't pointed directly at the satellite then you get no signal!

Anyone who believes such conspiracy theories is a total fruitcake!

I met one woman who was totally convinced that the queen is a lizard and related to Hitler! She was mad as a box of frogs....

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By *ensualtouch15Man  over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"The problem with the vast majority of these conspiracy theories is how organised they would have to be and how committed every single person involved would have had to be to keeping it secret.

With the moon landings, we're talking about loads of NASA employees, and presumably the President and other senior politicians. But no one ever decided to tell the truth? Or accidentally leaked some information?

It's daft.

Not really.

What is the pin number for your cash / debit / credit card?

You not telling?

Okay, so you want me to believe that out of the millions of shareholders of your bank, the hundreds of thousands of workers at your bank, the tens of thousands of contract workers for your bank, the thousands of shareholders of your bank, the dozens of members of your family, you are the only person in the whole wide world who knows your pin number?

Really? "

?? ? I'm rather concerned if you genuinely feel that is a reasonable analogue , let alone a credible argument ?

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By *ath_Neil_bifun OP   Couple  over a year ago

near cardiff


"The problem with the vast majority of these conspiracy theories is how organised they would have to be and how committed every single person involved would have had to be to keeping it secret.

With the moon landings, we're talking about loads of NASA employees, and presumably the President and other senior politicians. But no one ever decided to tell the truth? Or accidentally leaked some information?

It's daft.

Not really.

What is the pin number for your cash / debit / credit card?

You not telling?

Okay, so you want me to believe that out of the millions of shareholders of your bank, the hundreds of thousands of workers at your bank, the tens of thousands of contract workers for your bank, the thousands of shareholders of your bank, the dozens of members of your family, you are the only person in the whole wide world who knows your pin number?

Really? "

You are confusing a random computer generated number with the fallibility of man. Prone to a guilty conscience, a change of heart ,etc etc....Clinton couldn't keep a cum stained dress secret..Nixon couldn't hide a bunch of tapes.presidents with secret service agents can't keep shit you can bury in the ground secret let alone fake an entire moon landing..they launched a rocket.televised and witnessed on the ground.said rocket tracked on its way to moon..and then they cut to a studio where Stanley Kubrick was directing the moon landing in a studio with a fan on, whilst at the same time they some how got moon rock back with robot landers presumably, and set up mirrors on the surface.Robots again no doubt.and no one was any the wiser..now that I've written it out it's so convincing...

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By *ureTemptationWoman  over a year ago

Off the grid

I used to work somewhere that had a load of conspiracy theories attached. It was fun. We'd sit and read them occasionally - odd people telling me what went on in my building when I was in it daily and they'd never set foot in it - and have a good giggle.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I've seen serious, credible arguments that the moon landing in 1969 didn't happen.

The fact the flag is blowing in "THAT" iconic picture raises serious questions and a colossal amount of doubt for me.

Tell me your not actually serious?"

At no point did the flag blow, wave or anything similar....go back and look at it....! The whole conspiracy theory of that is based on an urban myth (or as sensible people call it ...utter bullshit)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"God the internet can be so depressing..

The shit people believe is shocking..

Fuck all that peer reviewed bollocks, you are much better off listening to some guy on YouTube, and his pseudo science bs..

But saying that I do love watching em..does anyone have a favourite they wish were true?

"

Homeopathy!

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By *ureTemptationWoman  over a year ago

Off the grid


"God the internet can be so depressing..

The shit people believe is shocking..

Fuck all that peer reviewed bollocks, you are much better off listening to some guy on YouTube, and his pseudo science bs..

But saying that I do love watching em..does anyone have a favourite they wish were true?

Homeopathy!"

Do NOT get me started.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

cor blimey this shit is getting a bit personal.

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By *ath_Neil_bifun OP   Couple  over a year ago

near cardiff


"God the internet can be so depressing..

The shit people believe is shocking..

Fuck all that peer reviewed bollocks, you are much better off listening to some guy on YouTube, and his pseudo science bs..

But saying that I do love watching em..does anyone have a favourite they wish were true?

Homeopathy!

Do NOT get me started. "

Ahh water...the great cure all of everything a human can get

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By *inky-MinxWoman  over a year ago

Grantham

Princess Diana is still alive you know

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By *ureTemptationWoman  over a year ago

Off the grid


"Princess Diana is still alive you know "

Is she on the moon, holding that flag up?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"God the internet can be so depressing..

The shit people believe is shocking..

Fuck all that peer reviewed bollocks, you are much better off listening to some guy on YouTube, and his pseudo science bs..

But saying that I do love watching em..does anyone have a favourite they wish were true?

Homeopathy!

Do NOT get me started.

Ahh water...the great cure all of everything a human can get"

And sugar lumps, don't forget the sugar lumps!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"God the internet can be so depressing..

The shit people believe is shocking..

Fuck all that peer reviewed bollocks, you are much better off listening to some guy on YouTube, and his pseudo science bs..

But saying that I do love watching em..does anyone have a favourite they wish were true?

Homeopathy!

Do NOT get me started. "

Please, please!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Princess Diana is still alive you know

Is she on the moon, holding that flag up?"

Honestly if I knew I would get this level of fucking shit I would never have said it.

.....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"cor blimey this shit is getting a bit personal. "

Well, go and read 'Bad Science' by Ben Goldacre. It'll help you to understand why people get so annoyed about these things.

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By *ureTemptationWoman  over a year ago

Off the grid


"Princess Diana is still alive you know

Is she on the moon, holding that flag up?

Honestly if I knew I would get this level of fucking shit I would never have said it.

..... "

Aww bless ya Greedy. You know, you really don't look well in your profile photo...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Princess Diana is still alive you know

Is she on the moon, holding that flag up?

Honestly if I knew I would get this level of fucking shit I would never have said it.

.....

Aww bless ya Greedy. You know, you really don't look well in your profile photo..."

(Halloween Costume Shop)

ME: *leaving after not finding anything*

CASHIER: *pointing to my face* Those masks aren't free, buddy.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Princess Diana is still alive you know

Is she on the moon, holding that flag up?

Honestly if I knew I would get this level of fucking shit I would never have said it.

..... "

I'm you said to me a few years ago you did not have much interest in science/science-fiction/outer space/greeting or visiting aliens anyway

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

I'm you said to me a few years ago you did not have much interest in science/science-fiction/outer space/greeting or visiting aliens anyway "

HAHA!

I remember that thread.

But that was batshit what you were on about.

Makes my flag shit here look tame.

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By *ureTemptationWoman  over a year ago

Off the grid


"Princess Diana is still alive you know

Is she on the moon, holding that flag up?

Honestly if I knew I would get this level of fucking shit I would never have said it.

.....

Aww bless ya Greedy. You know, you really don't look well in your profile photo...

(Halloween Costume Shop)

ME: *leaving after not finding anything*

CASHIER: *pointing to my face* Those masks aren't free, buddy. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

I'm you said to me a few years ago you did not have much interest in science/science-fiction/outer space/greeting or visiting aliens anyway

HAHA!

I remember that thread.

But that was batshit what you were on about.

Makes my flag shit here look tame. "

find the thread...I'm sure my scientific knowledge outshines yer youtube driven science lessons from dave down the pub

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By *obletonMan  over a year ago

A Home Among The Woodland Creatures


"Take it everybody knows Stanley Kubrick made the moon landing films .. left clues in all the rest of his movies"

At that time the film technology didn't exist that could film earth-bound astronauts in real time and then play back in slow-mo to give the impression of them bouncing around in 1/3 earth's gravity.

At least not to produce 141 minutes of continuous footage without a single cut.

would have been more difficult to fake the footage than it would have been to fly to the moon

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By *inky-MinxWoman  over a year ago

Grantham


"Princess Diana is still alive you know

Is she on the moon, holding that flag up?"

Yes with Elvis and the blueprints to the Twin Towers showing where the explosives were laid

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By *ureTemptationWoman  over a year ago

Off the grid

Oh another faux science one I've just seen on the worse than a playground thread.

The full moon has an effect on people's behaviour. Umm no! Not physically possible. *sigh*

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Oh another faux science one I've just seen on the worse than a playground thread.

The full moon has an effect on people's behaviour. Umm no! Not physically possible. *sigh*"

It's like astrology!

It's a simple A-level task to calculate the gravitational pull on a baby in its mother's arms both from Jupiter and from the mother. The pull of the mother's gravity on the baby is much greater. But still people believe that the planets affect us!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Oh another faux science one I've just seen on the worse than a playground thread.

The full moon has an effect on people's behaviour. Umm no! Not physically possible. *sigh*"

Not physically, but possibly psychsomatically

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By *ath_Neil_bifun OP   Couple  over a year ago

near cardiff


"Oh another faux science one I've just seen on the worse than a playground thread.

The full moon has an effect on people's behaviour. Umm no! Not physically possible. *sigh*"

It's all that water in you..the moon somehow gets it to make you murderous ,sticky fingered and prone to committing random acts of ABH and GBH..

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