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over a year ago
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We are both professionals, and we are quite comfortable with the description. We've worked hard to achieve it and like to attract similar people although it doesn't necessarily mean we discriminate against others.
It's a very simple word which can be used, either way, as a rough filter.
If you don't like it, don't message us. Easy  |
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"We are both professionals, and we are quite comfortable with the description. We've worked hard to achieve it and like to attract similar people although it doesn't necessarily mean we discriminate against others.
It's a very simple word which can be used, either way, as a rough filter.
If you don't like it, don't message us. Easy "
Genuine question, what do you class as professional?
Degree educated, £40k salary and above?
It's no judgement, just purely interested as to how people discern between professional and unprofessional?
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We are both professionals, and we are quite comfortable with the description. We've worked hard to achieve it and like to attract similar people although it doesn't necessarily mean we discriminate against others.
It's a very simple word which can be used, either way, as a rough filter.
If you don't like it, don't message us. Easy
Genuine question, what do you class as professional?
Degree educated, £40k salary and above?
It's no judgement, just purely interested as to how people discern between professional and unprofessional?
Xx"
It's not the salary. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"We are both professionals, and we are quite comfortable with the description. We've worked hard to achieve it and like to attract similar people although it doesn't necessarily mean we discriminate against others.
It's a very simple word which can be used, either way, as a rough filter.
If you don't like it, don't message us. Easy
Genuine question, what do you class as professional?
Degree educated, £40k salary and above?
It's no judgement, just purely interested as to how people discern between professional and unprofessional?
Xx"
Professionals are registered and accountable to an official body. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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OP, you are stirring 
They are putting it on their profile because is a way they wish to describe themselves.
I've found these threads an excellent filter in the past - I don't want to meet anyone who has such an enormous chip on their shoulder that they have a shit about someone else daring to be proud of their career achievements. And they *all* come crawling out of the woodwork with their inverse snobbery, right on cue  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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In my opinion the distinction is a professional works sitting down using their brain and a non professional works with their hands.
What used to be called tradespeople back in the day professional meant well paid whereas now it is the trades who earn more. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's a fairly standard word that's used to describe someone who does a professional job. On dating/sex sites it might be used as a filter for those who feel they might have more in common socially with someone who is also in a professional job. I've noticed on Fab it's not considered politically correct to use that term, perhaps because it comes across as a bit classist or snobby.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If you don't get what " professional " means in this context , then you are not one;
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Well that comment proves my earlier point!
Professional can be subjective. I have spoken to people who have felt professional is degree educated, some who feel it is blue collar employment etc. The dictionary definition would merely say it someone who is engaged in a specified activity as one's main paid occupation rather than as an amateur.
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The offical meaning is:
Relating to or belonging to a profession.
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Engaged in a specified activity as one's main paid occupation rather than as an amateur.
It normaly also requires the membership of an organisation which overseas said profession.
But agin who cares?    |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"OP, you are stirring
They are putting it on their profile because is a way they wish to describe themselves.
I've found these threads an excellent filter in the past - I don't want to meet anyone who has such an enormous chip on their shoulder that they have a shit about someone else daring to be proud of their career achievements. And they *all* come crawling out of the woodwork with their inverse snobbery, right on cue "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"In my opinion the distinction is a professional works sitting down using their brain and a non professional works with their hands.
What used to be called tradespeople back in the day professional meant well paid whereas now it is the trades who earn more. "
Nurses, doctors, social workers do not "sit down". |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"OP, you are stirring
They are putting it on their profile because is a way they wish to describe themselves.
I've found these threads an excellent filter in the past - I don't want to meet anyone who has such an enormous chip on their shoulder that they have a shit about someone else daring to be proud of their career achievements. And they *all* come crawling out of the woodwork with their inverse snobbery, right on cue "
Oops. Slightly tired and didn't register the OP. It's a trap .
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Nobody would have a problem if I said on my portfolio that I was looking for other creatives...
Why do people have a problem if I said I was looking for professionals? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think it possibly implies that they have regular work, are in full time employment and not sitting around in the dole etc?
I think it is the "go to" word to say "I am a nice guy/girl/couple" perhaps? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"OP, you are stirring
They are putting it on their profile because is a way they wish to describe themselves.
I've found these threads an excellent filter in the past - I don't want to meet anyone who has such an enormous chip on their shoulder that they have a shit about someone else daring to be proud of their career achievements. And they *all* come crawling out of the woodwork with their inverse snobbery, right on cue "
I did a search and it's a question that hasn't been asked in ages.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Professional" is getting paid for doing a job. A doctor is a professional, a lawyer is a professional and some poor sod who scrubs toilets for a living is a professional. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"We are both professionals, and we are quite comfortable with the description. We've worked hard to achieve it and like to attract similar people although it doesn't necessarily mean we discriminate against others.
It's a very simple word which can be used, either way, as a rough filter.
If you don't like it, don't message us. Easy
Genuine question, what do you class as professional?
Degree educated, £40k salary and above?
It's no judgement, just purely interested as to how people discern between professional and unprofessional?
Xx"
If they can verify your passport photo |
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I have professional & non professional friends here on Fab & in normal life & never notice a difference between the two in them as people, some high powered jobs do cause stress & this sometimes leads to drink or drug dependency to cope but again this can happen with non professionals.
You get good & bad in all people & if some are drawn to a certain type because they think that professional degree makes them somehow different why should it bother anyone else.
When any well mannered respectable people regardless of their professions are naked we are all the same. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Language is always evolving and professional no longer means simply 'one who has a profession'. I don't think education has anything to do with it as I have a degree yet my profession as a gardener is not one that would place me in the 'professional' category. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I guess people want to attract like minded people. And inverse snobbery is alive and well on fab.
Our bugbear with 'professional' is that's too much of a vague buzzword to be of any use. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm none the wiser as to what I am: degree educated, registered to practice my profession and answerable to a governing body. Hardly ever sit at a desk, enjoy the odd pie (especially if it's steak and kidney), council estate reared but employed.
Personally this is why I don't pay any attention to professional on a profile. I've had just as pleasurable meets with intelligent, interesting and respectful "non-professional" bin men and retail workers as I have lawyers and doctors.
I've been mindful not to judge on jobs since the recession, and again with the oil and gas downturn. I appreciate any hard working person who earns their keep and pays their taxes.
It's always interesting to see how others out their likes and dislikes however. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If you don't know what it means it doesn't apply to you. You're not what they're looking for."
Not entirely true. I've asked what it means to someone and still got fucked. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If you don't know what it means it doesn't apply to you. You're not what they're looking for.
Not entirely true. I've asked what it means to someone and still got fucked. "
It's as entirely true as every other preference on here. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If you don't know what it means it doesn't apply to you. You're not what they're looking for.
Not entirely true. I've asked what it means to someone and still got fucked.
It's as entirely true as every other preference on here."
It may not be their preference. They are describing themselves, not asking for professional people.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If you don't know what it means it doesn't apply to you. You're not what they're looking for.
Not entirely true. I've asked what it means to someone and still got fucked.
It's as entirely true as every other preference on here.
It may not be their preference. They are describing themselves, not asking for professional people.
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It may be their preference. They may not be describing themselves but asking to meet professional people
They may also fancy the occasional bit of rough when it's offered. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Professional threads nearly cause a shitstorm on par with a bareback threads "
Maybe I'll do one of those next week.
It's amusing how many people just reply to the voices in their heads and don't actually read. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If you don't know what it means it doesn't apply to you. You're not what they're looking for.
Not entirely true. I've asked what it means to someone and still got fucked.
It's as entirely true as every other preference on here.
It may not be their preference. They are describing themselves, not asking for professional people.
It may be their preference. They may not be describing themselves but asking to meet professional people
They may also fancy the occasional bit of rough when it's offered."
Or, they may not be actual professional people but like the word
I never offer, anyway. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Professional threads nearly cause a shitstorm on par with a bareback threads
Maybe I'll do one of those next week.
It's amusing how many people just reply to the voices in their heads and don't actually read."
Imagine being a professional barebacking Russian with a revolver and one bullet! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"When people say they are "professional" on their profiles - what does that have to do with sex and Swinging?"
Its an indication from them that they have a flash car on finance,a nice house with a big mortgage, flash clothes and an okay job and are generally trying to attract people of a similar ilk who they can relate to, normally up there own arses....
Oh what has that got to do with sex & swinging? Oops, nothing, but to us it means avoid, avoid, avoid.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm none the wiser as to what I am: degree educated, registered to practice my profession and answerable to a governing body. Hardly ever sit at a desk, enjoy the odd pie (especially if it's steak and kidney), council estate reared but employed.
Personally this is why I don't pay any attention to professional on a profile. I've had just as pleasurable meets with intelligent, interesting and respectful "non-professional" bin men and retail workers as I have lawyers and doctors.
I've been mindful not to judge on jobs since the recession, and again with the oil and gas downturn. I appreciate any hard working person who earns their keep and pays their taxes.
It's always interesting to see how others out their likes and dislikes however. "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Genuine question.
Does anyone actually care if someone doesn't have professional on their profile?
Seems everyone has an opinion if it is on the profile, curious about the other way round. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Genuine question.
Does anyone actually care if someone doesn't have professional on their profile?
Seems everyone has an opinion if it is on the profile, curious about the other way round. "
No I don't care, as long as we can get along. We have met 'professional' people and find most of them no different to anyone else. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Genuine question.
Does anyone actually care if someone doesn't have professional on their profile?
Seems everyone has an opinion if it is on the profile, curious about the other way round. "
I don't. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I can understand why somebody would state a preference for meeting "professional" people.
I wouldn't use the term "professional" myself because although what would typically be considered professional people tend to have many of the traits I find appealing, those traits are not exclusive to "professionals" and I wouldn't want to exclude "non professionals" who also may have the same traits.
I think there are possibly more effective ways to filter people. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've found when people said on a profile they're professional it was normally used to explain why they had no face pics, as in I have a high profile job can't risk it. Don't see any other point of putting it tbh unless it's to infer wealthy status? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I can understand why somebody would state a preference for meeting "professional" people.
I wouldn't use the term "professional" myself because although what would typically be considered professional people tend to have many of the traits I find appealing, those traits are not exclusive to "professionals" and I wouldn't want to exclude "non professionals" who also may have the same traits.
I think there are possibly more effective ways to filter people. "
That's an awful lot of professionals. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"When people say they are "professional" on their profiles - what does that have to do with sex and Swinging?
Nothing.
But I wonder if profile and professional come from the same root..."
possibly? when you profess something you're declaring it, i can see how profile and profess kind of link. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've found when people said on a profile they're professional it was normally used to explain why they had no face pics, as in I have a high profile job can't risk it. Don't see any other point of putting it tbh unless it's to infer wealthy status? "
Teachers are professionals. Some of them are piss poor. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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When we first got into swinging 13 years ago it was made clear to us that 'professional' was a code for 'not dole scum' or something along those lines. Just goes to show how long this debate has been going on. |
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Some traits do conect to a persons employment & education as our friend who is a dom & adult baby nanny only ever gets professional people visit her, not many builders or bin men want to be adult babies it seems so yes traits & divisions are apparent. |
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"Some traits do conect to a persons employment & education as our friend who is a dom & adult baby nanny only ever gets professional people visit her, not many builders or bin men want to be adult babies it seems so yes traits & divisions are apparent."
Are apparent sometimes that should say. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"OP, you are stirring
They are putting it on their profile because is a way they wish to describe themselves.
I've found these threads an excellent filter in the past - I don't want to meet anyone who has such an enormous chip on their shoulder that they have a shit about someone else daring to be proud of their career achievements. And they *all* come crawling out of the woodwork with their inverse snobbery, right on cue "
'Accusations' of posh equate to anyone not living as they do must be stuck up (for want of a better phrase).
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"When people say they are "professional" on their profiles - what does that have to do with sex and Swinging?
Nothing.
But I wonder if profile and professional come from the same root..."
The etymology of profile is 'to draw a line' from which we get outline/sketch. The etymology of professional is 'a solemn declaration' or 'professing' your skills.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Some traits do conect to a persons employment & education as our friend who is a dom & adult baby nanny only ever gets professional people visit her, not many builders or bin men want to be adult babies it seems so yes traits & divisions are apparent."
lmao
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"Some traits do conect to a persons employment & education as our friend who is a dom & adult baby nanny only ever gets professional people visit her, not many builders or bin men want to be adult babies it seems so yes traits & divisions are apparent."
Maybe builders and bin men do have that fantasy, but they can't afford her? |
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"Some traits do conect to a persons employment & education as our friend who is a dom & adult baby nanny only ever gets professional people visit her, not many builders or bin men want to be adult babies it seems so yes traits & divisions are apparent.
Maybe builders and bin men do have that fantasy, but they can't afford her? "
my ex had that fantasy and he never seemed to have much money. |
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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago
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Can you sign a passport, if so you're a professional, that's our understanding of the word. As for swinging it's just one descriptive word, just one of many indicators to the type of people you're likely to be meeting. Someone said it means ' they're stuck up their own arse', pretty down to earth here, ah well. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"When people say they are "professional" on their profiles - what does that have to do with sex and Swinging?
Its an indication from them that they have a flash car on finance,a nice house with a big mortgage, flash clothes and an okay job and are generally trying to attract people of a similar ilk who they can relate to, normally up there own arses....
Oh what has that got to do with sex & swinging? Oops, nothing, but to us it means avoid, avoid, avoid.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We always assume that when a profile says "professional" it means they are in very well payed, full time employment, have an "above average" standard of living, well travelled, cultured, own a very big house (all paid for) well respected in their community, articulate, obviously highly intellectual individuals, speaks the queens English, minds their "P's n Q's" Voted Conservative and never drives a car more than 2 years from new! But are a little kinky behind closed doors |
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It amazes me that people get so worked up over this one word. Why?
If you come across something on a profile you don't like/excludes you, use it as a filter, get over yourself and move on!
Such inverted snobbery. I can imagine the vitriol if said professionals also had "good looking" as a preference too! |
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"We are both professionals, and we are quite comfortable with the description. We've worked hard to achieve it and like to attract similar people although it doesn't necessarily mean we discriminate against others.
It's a very simple word which can be used, either way, as a rough filter.
If you don't like it, don't message us. Easy "
Aaah...If only it were that easy we wouldn't have this thread every other day. |
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"OP, you are stirring
They are putting it on their profile because is a way they wish to describe themselves.
I've found these threads an excellent filter in the past - I don't want to meet anyone who has such an enormous chip on their shoulder that they have a shit about someone else daring to be proud of their career achievements. And they *all* come crawling out of the woodwork with their inverse snobbery, right on cue "
Yep! |
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"Why are so many people so upset about this one word?"
does it really matter what your job is? If someone was drop dead gorgeous but was out of work would that really put you off? Professional or unemployed. We are all here for the same thing. It doesn't make anyone any better.
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"Genuine question.
Does anyone actually care if someone doesn't have professional on their profile?
Seems everyone has an opinion if it is on the profile, curious about the other way round. "
Could care less. I go by the profile text and message. |
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"I can understand why somebody would state a preference for meeting "professional" people.
I wouldn't use the term "professional" myself because although what would typically be considered professional people tend to have many of the traits I find appealing, those traits are not exclusive to "professionals" and I wouldn't want to exclude "non professionals" who also may have the same traits.
I think there are possibly more effective ways to filter people. "
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"Some traits do conect to a persons employment & education as our friend who is a dom & adult baby nanny only ever gets professional people visit her, not many builders or bin men want to be adult babies it seems so yes traits & divisions are apparent."
Why I personally have never felt the need to put "professional" on my profile as only professional men contact me for my kind of play. |
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"Some traits do conect to a persons employment & education as our friend who is a dom & adult baby nanny only ever gets professional people visit her, not many builders or bin men want to be adult babies it seems so yes traits & divisions are apparent.
Maybe builders and bin men do have that fantasy, but they can't afford her? "
People get paid?!! Now you tell me! |
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"Why are so many people so upset about this one word?does it really matter what your job is? If someone was drop dead gorgeous but was out of work would that really put you off? Professional or unemployed. We are all here for the same thing. It doesn't make anyone any better."
It would if you needed to travel/pay for hotels. I wouldn't meet someone who couldn't go halves. |
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"Why are so many people so upset about this one word?does it really matter what your job is? If someone was drop dead gorgeous but was out of work would that really put you off? Professional or unemployed. We are all here for the same thing. It doesn't make anyone any better.
It would if you needed to travel/pay for hotels. I wouldn't meet someone who couldn't go halves."
that's fair enough. |
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"Some traits do conect to a persons employment & education as our friend who is a dom & adult baby nanny only ever gets professional people visit her, not many builders or bin men want to be adult babies it seems so yes traits & divisions are apparent."
I don't know many builders or bin men that can afford professional sex workers at all though - seeing a sex worker is a serious luxury. So it's more likely a cash flow thing than a wild speculation of what sex you enjoy because of your job.
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In low grade jobs like you mention who were also into age play. I can confidently say after years on the scene that there's no corrolation.) |
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"Why are so many people so upset about this one word?does it really matter what your job is? If someone was drop dead gorgeous but was out of work would that really put you off? Professional or unemployed. We are all here for the same thing. It doesn't make anyone any better."
To the majority yes but to some no, i usually humour these few smile & move on as its fairer to both parties.
Me & Kim travel all over the UK with work socialising with unemployed people to gentry, all lovely people all very different but mainly down to their personalities not educational achievements.
Some will miss out on life due to their discriminations but its their life & their choice why should others worry.
A while back me & Kim was invited to a "vanilla' party at the House of Commons & in conversation one of the guests seemed surprised when i told him I had previously been a civil servant & had worked there for 5 years, you can never truly know a person unless you spend some time getting to know them.
You get social problems & Jeremy Kyle antics in all classes, we are all no better or worse than anyone else.
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"Why are so many people so upset about this one word?does it really matter what your job is? If someone was drop dead gorgeous but was out of work would that really put you off? Professional or unemployed. We are all here for the same thing. It doesn't make anyone any better.
To the majority yes but to some no, i usually humour these few smile & move on as its fairer to both parties.
Me & Kim travel all over the UK with work socialising with unemployed people to gentry, all lovely people all very different but mainly down to their personalities not educational achievements.
Some will miss out on life due to their discriminations but its their life & their choice why should others worry.
A while back me & Kim was invited to a "vanilla' party at the House of Commons & in conversation one of the guests seemed surprised when i told him I had previously been a civil servant & had worked there for 5 years, you can never truly know a person unless you spend some time getting to know them.
You get social problems & Jeremy Kyle antics in all classes, we are all no better or worse than anyone else.
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The dictionary says ... "one who is engaged in a profession."
A profession is "a paid occupation, especially one that involves prolonged training and a formal qualification" so not a dustman...
It can also mean "an open but often false claim"
So let us put "professional" to bed and cool down.  |
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"The dictionary says ... "one who is engaged in a profession."
A profession is "a paid occupation, especially one that involves prolonged training and a formal qualification" so not a dustman...
It can also mean "an open but often false claim"
So let us put "professional" to bed and cool down. "
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"I've found when people said on a profile they're professional it was normally used to explain why they had no face pics, as in I have a high profile job can't risk it. Don't see any other point of putting it tbh unless it's to infer wealthy status? "
Wow! What a thread! And how much controversy!
I found the above comment the most in line with my thinking: "professional" doesn't state anything about status, salary, wealth or posh. It doesn't indicate to me anything about preferences.
For me "professional" is just a way of saying "I have a job and they can't find out about me being here". Hence discretion is required and I can't tell you much in public about me. That's all! Nothing more and nothing less
I don't see what the fuss is about...
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"We are both professionals, and we are quite comfortable with the description. We've worked hard to achieve it and like to attract similar people although it doesn't necessarily mean we discriminate against others.
It's a very simple word which can be used, either way, as a rough filter.
If you don't like it, don't message us. Easy "
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