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"But why do so many regular posters, feel its acceptable to abuse and ridicule new posters? Mina xxx " i dont but not on all the time ... i wud never ever ridiculs anyone as i find it un acceptable behaviour | |||
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"But why do so many regular posters, feel its acceptable to abuse and ridicule new posters? Mina xxx " Many are board, lonely and feel the need to pick on new posters. Its happened for months/years and most likely will but its usually a group activity. | |||
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"But why do so many regular posters, feel its acceptable to abuse and ridicule new posters? Mina xxx i dont but not on all the time ... i wud never ever ridiculs anyone as i find it un acceptable behaviour " Having a joke with people that are familiar to you is one thing, but i find the behaviour of some of the posters tonight distasteful, introverted and very unpleasant reading. Mina | |||
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"But why do so many regular posters, feel its acceptable to abuse and ridicule new posters? Mina xxx " in what way.... me personally.. I don't get two hoots if it a new poster or a regular spouting nonsense.... i'll call them out on it! | |||
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"But why do so many regular posters, feel its acceptable to abuse and ridicule new posters? Mina xxx in what way.... me personally.. I don't get two hoots if it a new poster or a regular spouting nonsense.... i'll call them out on it!" Well if you treat all equally all well and good, but it is blatantly obvious that some do not adapt the same principal. Mina xxx | |||
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"But why do so many regular posters, feel its acceptable to abuse and ridicule new posters? Mina xxx in what way.... me personally.. I don't get two hoots if it a new poster or a regular spouting nonsense.... i'll call them out on it!Well if you treat all equally all well and good, but it is blatantly obvious that some do not adapt the same principal. Mina xxx" Stop just posting to defend your mate and read the threads.This is the east cliquey forum i have ever been on.You dont like it,don't read it. | |||
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"But why do so many regular posters, feel its acceptable to abuse and ridicule new posters? Mina xxx in what way.... me personally.. I don't get two hoots if it a new poster or a regular spouting nonsense.... i'll call them out on it!Well if you treat all equally all well and good, but it is blatantly obvious that some do not adapt the same principal. Mina xxx" Some are very brave behind a keyboard but so different in person. Often they lack self esteem in life so are abusive on line. Others though are just bored and have a low tolerance to others. | |||
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"But why do so many regular posters, feel its acceptable to abuse and ridicule new posters? Mina xxx i dont but not on all the time ... i wud never ever ridiculs anyone as i find it un acceptable behaviour Having a joke with people that are familiar to you is one thing, but i find the behaviour of some of the posters tonight distasteful, introverted and very unpleasant reading. Mina " havnt read any post tonite ....was on earlier posted a forum about a warning and left again this is 1st ive been back but as i say wudnt ridicule anyone, i do banter with ones ive got to know, but anyone i dont i am cautious on what i reply to them | |||
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"I never abuse anyone and any 'ridicule' is restricted to humourous quips. There isn't a clique, just a few folks who know each other, it's no more a clique than walking into a new pub and seeing a few people chatting together. Say hello and chat too and you'll find them friendly enough. Also bare in mind the regulars see about a hundred repeated winge threads every week so they start to wear a bit thin after a while. " So they wear a bit thin? I can understand that people get a bit bored with the same old thing, but where has the respect gone? Mina | |||
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"I believe there are people on the forums who are obviously good friends etc but I have never had anyone be rude to me, quite the opposite, have had some very nice messages sent privately, if people post things which people do or dont agree with then so be it..thats the point of a forum surely??" I am pleased for you, but give it time. Mina xxx | |||
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"I never abuse anyone and any 'ridicule' is restricted to humourous quips. There isn't a clique, just a few folks who know each other, it's no more a clique than walking into a new pub and seeing a few people chatting together. Say hello and chat too and you'll find them friendly enough. Also bare in mind the regulars see about a hundred repeated winge threads every week so they start to wear a bit thin after a while. So they wear a bit thin? I can understand that people get a bit bored with the same old thing, but where has the respect gone? Mina " Why is respect obigatory? i respect ppl who earn it,some ppl clearly don't deserve it. | |||
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"I never abuse anyone and any 'ridicule' is restricted to humourous quips. There isn't a clique, just a few folks who know each other, it's no more a clique than walking into a new pub and seeing a few people chatting together. Say hello and chat too and you'll find them friendly enough. Also bare in mind the regulars see about a hundred repeated winge threads every week so they start to wear a bit thin after a while. So they wear a bit thin? I can understand that people get a bit bored with the same old thing, but where has the respect gone? Mina Why is respect obigatory? i respect ppl who earn it,some ppl clearly don't deserve it. " Its in the forum rules is it not? Mina | |||
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"I've been a member for over a year and don't ever recall anyone being mean or nasty towards me... quite the opposite." I am pleased for you also. Mina xxx | |||
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"But why do so many regular posters, feel its acceptable to abuse and ridicule new posters? Mina xxx " I don't think they do. They just give their opinion to anybody old or new to the forum who make stupid or inflammatory comments. Wow we have some great popcorn time threads this morning. | |||
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"I've been a member for over a year and don't ever recall anyone being mean or nasty towards me... quite the opposite.I am pleased for you also. Mina xxx" Thanks ps - I love your avatar xx | |||
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"I've been a member for over a year and don't ever recall anyone being mean or nasty towards me... quite the opposite.I am pleased for you also. Mina xxx Thanks ps - I love your avatar xx" Thank you . Mina xxx | |||
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"I've been a member for over a year and don't ever recall anyone being mean or nasty towards me... quite the opposite." I think I once called you a wally. I hope I didn't trauatise you too badly. | |||
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"I've been a member for over a year and don't ever recall anyone being mean or nasty towards me... quite the opposite. I think I once called you a wally. I hope I didn't trauatise you too badly. " I was crying myself to sleep for months after it happened, but thanks to my weekly meetings with my shrink I think I'm just about over it. | |||
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" hang on, i get it,out of the many men and women i fucked that night ,i didnt fuck you,does that rankle daring?" erm ya didnt fuck me either, and yes it rankles....................... oops i forgot i want even there but it still rankles | |||
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" i hate everyone and everything with total equality and you are all dirty filthy naaaaasty little munkeys death to the west! but i think some folks take things too much on forums at times - and humour and subtle jibes are never translated too well but if you can not take it all too serious then that all helps - as its an internet forum and really - its just a lot of tosh like any net forum " what is this humour thing you speak of ??? i have never experienced such a thing before. is it a new kind of sexual position ?? if so are there any ladies out there willing to demonstrate it ? | |||
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" i hate everyone and everything with total equality and you are all dirty filthy naaaaasty little munkeys death to the west! but i think some folks take things too much on forums at times - and humour and subtle jibes are never translated too well but if you can not take it all too serious then that all helps - as its an internet forum and really - its just a lot of tosh like any net forum " im in the north ...does that count lol | |||
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" i hate everyone and everything with total equality and you are all dirty filthy naaaaasty little munkeys death to the west! but i think some folks take things too much on forums at times - and humour and subtle jibes are never translated too well but if you can not take it all too serious then that all helps - as its an internet forum and really - its just a lot of tosh like any net forum " oi! west is best!!! | |||
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"Ahh well your not really though are you. You will post like this here but wouldn't say boo to a goose on Sunday at chams. So please don't say you are the same in real life as you are clearly not." " I did actually avoid you if truth be told and there was no appeal whatsoever on my part. " Anyone else spotting a slight inconsistency here... | |||
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"But why do so many regular posters, feel its acceptable to abuse and ridicule new posters? Mina xxx " This forum is no different to other forums. I read a few forums on different subjects such as PC's, alternative healing etc. In each and every one if you make what people think is a stupid or inflammatory comment you will get called out on it. Sure you will always get forum trolls but I genuinely don't think we have any here. | |||
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"But why do so many regular posters, feel its acceptable to abuse and ridicule new posters? Mina xxx This forum is no different to other forums. I read a few forums on different subjects such as PC's, alternative healing etc. In each and every one if you make what people think is a stupid or inflammatory comment you will get called out on it. Sure you will always get forum trolls but I genuinely don't think we have any here. " as i have stated before i dont think anyone should be made to feel stupid, and anyone that does has a low self worth or opinion of themself, i have found there is a small minority,(1 or 2)that is all, that like nothing more than to cause upset and make themselves feel better, but to those i choose to ignore as i find it isnt worth it. I will however fight/stand up formyself if i fel the need. | |||
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"But why do so many regular posters, feel its acceptable to abuse and ridicule new posters? Mina xxx This forum is no different to other forums. I read a few forums on different subjects such as PC's, alternative healing etc. In each and every one if you make what people think is a stupid or inflammatory comment you will get called out on it. Sure you will always get forum trolls but I genuinely don't think we have any here. as i have stated before i dont think anyone should be made to feel stupid, and anyone that does has a low self worth or opinion of themself, i have found there is a small minority,(1 or 2)that is all, that like nothing more than to cause upset and make themselves feel better, but to those i choose to ignore as i find it isnt worth it. I will however fight/stand up formyself if i fel the need." can you stand and fight for me coz to be honest i cant be arsed to do it for myself | |||
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"But why do so many regular posters, feel its acceptable to abuse and ridicule new posters? Mina xxx This forum is no different to other forums. I read a few forums on different subjects such as PC's, alternative healing etc. In each and every one if you make what people think is a stupid or inflammatory comment you will get called out on it. Sure you will always get forum trolls but I genuinely don't think we have any here. as i have stated before i dont think anyone should be made to feel stupid, and anyone that does has a low self worth or opinion of themself, i have found there is a small minority,(1 or 2)that is all, that like nothing more than to cause upset and make themselves feel better, but to those i choose to ignore as i find it isnt worth it. I will however fight/stand up formyself if i fel the need. can you stand and fight for me coz to be honest i cant be arsed to do it for myself" opps spelling got bad at the end ...its the drink i tell ya lol, yes i will stand up for ya | |||
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"know when hotel rooms are over occupied " ok folks...back of...carefully.....he knows how many people are in your room right now...he clearly does work for british intelligence...or laterooms, but dont take your chances. each man for himself | |||
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"clears throat. Im new to the Forums and have indeed found that new people are largely ignored unless they take a pitch fork and prod one or two posters in a good humoured manner (which I do enjoy a lot) but cant really say that I have felt picked on. I must admit to not having read the rules but I would not have thought that there is much point in getting into a slanging match with individuals for no good purpose. This is entertainment people and airing dirty laundry in public is a little tacky. Also wonder where the gentlemanly behaviour is? Attacking over the net is pretty pointless. " weh hey someone that is on my wave link lol | |||
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"Also wonder where the gentlemanly behaviour is? Attacking over the net is pretty pointless. " Agreed - even if you win you're still a loser. | |||
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"Ahh well your not really though are you. You will post like this here but wouldn't say boo to a goose on Sunday at chams. So please don't say you are the same in real life as you are clearly not. I did actually avoid you if truth be told and there was no appeal whatsoever on my part. Anyone else spotting a slight inconsistency here..." oh yes have just read the other post and this one I love being a newbie to the forums most are frienly lively debators with some very funny banter shame there's few obviously so down on it all | |||
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"Pitchforks? I wasn't issued with a pitchfork! I've been done!! " wheres mt pitchfork, i dint get one either opps hold on im an angel dont need one lol | |||
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"Pitchforks? I wasn't issued with a pitchfork! I've been done!! " did it hurt ??? | |||
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"Im the rebel leader who stole the pitchfork in the last clique. Keep up! You lot wouldnt let me in so I just prod ya when the mood takes me... " ohhh i like to be prod every now and again lol | |||
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"know when hotel rooms are over occupied ok folks...back of...carefully.....he knows how many people are in your room right now...he clearly does work for british intelligence...or laterooms, but dont take your chances. each man for himself" Oops Ilove swapping rooms caught me red handed and what about the dogging in the car park after hours. | |||
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"clears throat. Im new to the Forums and have indeed found that new people are largely ignored unless they take a pitch fork and prod one or two posters in a good humoured manner (which I do enjoy a lot) but cant really say that I have felt picked on. I must admit to not having read the rules but I would not have thought that there is much point in getting into a slanging match with individuals for no good purpose. This is entertainment people and airing dirty laundry in public is a little tacky. Also wonder where the gentlemanly behaviour is? Attacking over the net is pretty pointless. weh hey someone that is on my wave link lol " welcome to the cause... grab a pitchfork and keep your eyes peeled | |||
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" weh hey someone that is on my wave link lol welcome to the cause... grab a pitchfork and keep your eyes peeled " ouch....bit severe.....is it a clique requirement? | |||
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" weh hey someone that is on my wave link lol welcome to the cause... grab a pitchfork and keep your eyes peeled ouch....bit severe.....is it a clique requirement?" where's mine i want to join hehe can i can i | |||
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" weh hey someone that is on my wave link lol welcome to the cause... grab a pitchfork and keep your eyes peeled ouch....bit severe.....is it a clique requirement? where's mine i want to join hehe can i can i " only if you peel your eyes | |||
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" weh hey someone that is on my wave link lol welcome to the cause... grab a pitchfork and keep your eyes peeled ouch....bit severe.....is it a clique requirement? where's mine i want to join hehe can i can i only if you peel your eyes" ouch that sounds painful lol | |||
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"But why do so many regular posters, feel its acceptable to abuse and ridicule new posters? Mina xxx in what way.... me personally.. I don't get two hoots if it a new poster or a regular spouting nonsense.... i'll call them out on it!Well if you treat all equally all well and good, but it is blatantly obvious that some do not adapt the same principal. Mina xxx Some are very brave behind a keyboard but so different in person. Often they lack self esteem in life so are abusive on line. Others though are just bored and have a low tolerance to others. yawn disagreeing is not abuse,if it hurts perhaps you ought to stop posting in a place where ppl are free to disagree with your mad ideas.And cod psychology and a condescending attitude just encourage ppl to think,troll . without a life. So shall we discuss the motivations and elf awareness of someone who goes out to be abusive and attack others? What might be missing from the life of someone who claims to be Dom but needs to seek attention from strangers in this manner? Oh and i am exactly the same in real life. Ahh well your not really though are you. You will post like this here but wouldn't say boo to a goose on Sunday at chams. So please don't say you are the same in real life as you are clearly not. Ahem,i dont remember talking to you at chams,but i am definaty no shrinking violet,and i think ppl who were actually there will agree ,i'm not exactly sure who u might be confusing me with,but i'm the one femme and madchick described as making the party go with a "swing" hang on, i get it,out of the many men and women i fucked that night ,i didnt fuck you,does that rankle daring? I did actually avoid you if truth be told and there was no appeal whatsoever on my part. People will say nice things though to you if they deem you need pepping up. I would suggest not using names though in threads as its against the rules." arrogance is such an ugly thing | |||
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"Ok, now I can see a problem looming. This is a rebellion and if you all bloody join it just makes me one of the flock... aint liking it " Did someone call me? Oh, Ooops... you said 'flock' *throws pitchfork down and flounces off* | |||
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"Crass! I think it's incredibly poor for a thread to end up in some sort of personal tit for tat bunfight for whatever reason but to be quite so rude is just unnecessary. Clique or not, there is no need to behave like a child. " Buns? There's buns? Jeez.... I'm late too, bet I've missed the buns!! | |||
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"know when hotel rooms are over occupied ok folks...back of...carefully.....he knows how many people are in your room right now...he clearly does work for british intelligence...or laterooms, but dont take your chances. each man for himself Oops Ilove swapping rooms caught me red handed and what about the dogging in the car park after hours." There was dogging!!!!i was so busy hiding from everyone i missed it! ps isnt over occupancy at a swinging club called an orgy! | |||
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"Are you part of the FAB Inner Circle? " All the best people are part of the Fab Magic Circle....the Inner Circle is soooo last year.... | |||
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"know when hotel rooms are over occupied ok folks...back of...carefully.....he knows how many people are in your room right now...he clearly does work for british intelligence...or laterooms, but dont take your chances. each man for himself Oops Ilove swapping rooms caught me red handed and what about the dogging in the car park after hours. There was dogging!!!!i was so busy hiding from everyone i missed it! ps isnt over occupancy at a swinging club called an orgy! " just to but in here i booked the room for the three of us and chams were well aware of how many were in the room as they served 3 breakfasts both days so whats it got to do with any body how many were in the room if chams were happy then so were we | |||
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"Are you part of the FAB Inner Circle? All the best people are part of the Fab Magic Circle....the Inner Circle is soooo last year...." think I'm going to start a vicious circle | |||
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"Ok this is probably gonna get me accused if sticking up for my friends (sorry I know we are not allowed them on here ) but I really don't understand people who go around spouting about cliques. If you start a new job and you go down to the canteen one lunchtime does everyone there talk to you? No. Because they are talking to their friends. But eventually.you get to know people and develop your own friendships etc. If this is in reference to the thread I think.it.is then anyone, even me a forum regulations. Who posted a thread like that would receive the same treatment. And to be fair I think he got off lightly and also gave as good as he got. I doubt we will see him in the forums again unless to have another moan cos no one wants to be his friend People on here do develop friendships and shock horror even meet just socially, I have met a fair few off the forums now (ok not all.just socially ) its what makes this site so great. Mina - please don't take this as an attack on you but this is not the first thread you have put up about the forums being cliquey. Maybe if you took the time to get involved you would understand that they really aren't but at the moment all I see is you moaning about a part of the site that many people like. If you want cliquey go in the sodding chat rooms " ^^^ Pretty much covers it I reckon. The only people who seem to think there is a clique are newbies, do they still feel the same a few weeks later when they join in and find it fun I wonder? Do they suddenly think 'OMG! I'm in that horrible clique now! I'm a bad person!' I doubt it somehow. This is not an attack at anyone, least of all the OP who has brought the matter up in such a reasonable way, but it's an open forum and some people will post things you don't like. If you can't handle that either grow some balls or go and find something less challenging to do with your time. Act a twat on here and you'll be treated like one just as you would in the real world. I've had fun on here and made friends, I was a newbie once and had to work at it a bit as did everyone on here. Only two things tend to irritate me on here these days; the victim types who turn to jelly the first time someone sniffs in their direction and the 'knights in shining armour' who leap about telling everyone how we are all bullies who have the social skills of a slug when we are not behind the keyboard. Is telling me how I should use the forums a kind of bullying as well I wonder | |||
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"Are you part of the FAB Inner Circle? All the best people are part of the Fab Magic Circle....the Inner Circle is soooo last year.... think I'm going to start a vicious circle " too late...it started without you. you must decide now whether you are inside or outside the circle... the circle is a hole | |||
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"It's better to be inside criticising the wall paper than stood out side shouting through the window... " what's up with my wallpaper? | |||
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"I didn't get picked on when I was a newbie at all and in fact found it quite welcoming. I do however get picked on all the time now. A shower of bastards the lot of you!" Be quiet and go and eat some glitter monkey boy, the adults are talking | |||
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"I didn't get picked on when I was a newbie at all and in fact found it quite welcoming. I do however get picked on all the time now. A shower of bastards the lot of you!" would that be a group shower? | |||
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"It's better to be inside criticising the wall paper than stood out side shouting through the window... what's up with my wallpaper?" It's the skulls mainly | |||
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"It's better to be inside criticising the wall paper than stood out side shouting through the window... what's up with my wallpaper? It's the skulls mainly " they're behind the wall...doesn't count | |||
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"It's better to be inside criticising the wall paper than stood out side shouting through the window... what's up with my wallpaper? It's the skulls mainly they're behind the wall...doesn't count" I can see dead people... | |||
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"It's better to be inside criticising the wall paper than stood out side shouting through the window... what's up with my wallpaper? It's the skulls mainly they're behind the wall...doesn't count I can see dead people... " i suggest you stop hanging out in the crem then | |||
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"I've Googled clique and apparently its the sound of two snooker balls in a sock." I've read that somewhere recently | |||
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"I've Googled clique and apparently its the sound of two snooker balls in a sock. I've read that somewhere recently " look above/ glad to be of help | |||
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" weh hey someone that is on my wave link lol welcome to the cause... grab a pitchfork and keep your eyes peeled ouch....bit severe.....is it a clique requirement? where's mine i want to join hehe can i can i only if you peel your eyes ouch that sounds painful lol " oh it does meanies, I'm going to run off and cry now hehe On a more serious note AS A NEWBIE This is more than a sex site people have various reasons for being here. There is a very much a sense of it being a community and being to discuss things and have difference of opinions. I also feel people are welcomed in The guy asked a question "Why do people join when they're not actually gonna meet anybody?". All I got from the posts where light hearted banter and people answering the actual question asked Having seen his profile I could see why his not getting want he wanted expected. If people come along all aggressive and making asumpsion about people Obviously people within that community are going to defend it It does make people follower's etc | |||
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"I've Googled clique and apparently its the sound of two snooker balls in a sock. I've read that somewhere recently " It so good I intend to use it every 10 minutes... | |||
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"Zzzzzzz you newbies have bored me with all your talk of Cliques... Now wheres Femme and BB I want to talk about all of you...But not to you cos I only ever talk to the regulars... " We been on ere 3 and a half years guy so we are far from newbies but there has always been cliques on ere since we been on ere and nothing changes | |||
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"I reckon I am going to be shot down now but what the hell. The other thread was started with a perfectly good question, it wasn't stupid, it wasn't a sweeping generalisation...it was just a question that is allowed. If the person has found that a lot of people only want to chat on here, then why can't he ask why are people joining a swinging site just to chat? Obviously, it is allowed to join just to chat, but there is no harm in him asking the question. " BANG! | |||
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"Cliques are like Santa, they only exist if you believe in them " | |||
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"Cliques are like Santa, they only exist if you believe in them " santas real! . . . . i believe . . . . and i do not say that in jest! | |||
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"9.52 and I have been banged already " Good girl | |||
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"9.52 and I have been banged already " If I could I'd bang you every morning darling. | |||
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"I love the ones who say they don't exist on here as they are in the main the instigators. To the op some people on here just like to abuse new posters they don't like so you will have to live with it. " Interesting... can you instigate a clique then? I run a forum and they all moaned left, right and centre about cliques... so when said forum needed a new domain... that's the name I gave it!! | |||
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"As ive said many times before a clique is just people ya haven't yet spoken too No one as far as i know stops anyone joining in We all started as newbies after all I really feel its the way some folk look at things that's the real problem " Yep some dont wear rose tinted glasses. | |||
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"As ive said many times before a clique is just people ya haven't yet spoken too No one as far as i know stops anyone joining in We all started as newbies after all I really feel its the way some folk look at things that's the real problem Yep some dont wear rose tinted glasses. " Well maybe they should then lol At the end a the day this is all fantasy anyway the real worlds outside The day i let owt on here bother me that much will be the day i packs it all in xx | |||
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"I love the ones who say they don't exist on here as they are in the main the instigators. To the op some people on here just like to abuse new posters they don't like so you will have to live with it. " I disagree. Join in and you become a forum regular/clique member (delete to taste) anyway - so in my mind it invalidates the clique argument anyway. New posters are generally treated pretty well in my opinion, they are often defended by regulars if anyone oversteps the line. Idiots and unpleasant folk fair less well, be they regulars or newbies. Someone said 'you reap what you sow' on the forums and I tend to agree on the whole. | |||
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"As ive said many times before a clique is just people ya haven't yet spoken too No one as far as i know stops anyone joining in We all started as newbies after all I really feel its the way some folk look at things that's the real problem Yep some dont wear rose tinted glasses. Well maybe they should then lol At the end a the day this is all fantasy anyway the real worlds outside The day i let owt on here bother me that much will be the day i packs it all in xx " I heard you did let it bother you at times. | |||
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"I love the ones who say they don't exist on here as they are in the main the instigators. To the op some people on here just like to abuse new posters they don't like so you will have to live with it. I disagree. Join in and you become a forum regular/clique member (delete to taste) anyway - so in my mind it invalidates the clique argument anyway. New posters are generally treated pretty well in my opinion, they are often defended by regulars if anyone oversteps the line. Idiots and unpleasant folk fair less well, be they regulars or newbies. Someone said 'you reap what you sow' on the forums and I tend to agree on the whole." Well you would disagree wouldn't you. There are many new posters that get ignored or abused. It happened again last night by all accounts. Some even logged back in to have a go. Sad really but we all have a right to an opinion and those who stand back and watch are more likely to see it. | |||
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"As ive said many times before a clique is just people ya haven't yet spoken too No one as far as i know stops anyone joining in We all started as newbies after all I really feel its the way some folk look at things that's the real problem Yep some dont wear rose tinted glasses. Well maybe they should then lol At the end a the day this is all fantasy anyway the real worlds outside The day i let owt on here bother me that much will be the day i packs it all in xx I heard you did let it bother you at times." Only certain things but not fa long And yes you were right to point that out But the thing is i really dont take anything that seriously anyway My life outside fab is serious enough fa me thanks xx | |||
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"I love the ones who say they don't exist on here as they are in the main the instigators. To the op some people on here just like to abuse new posters they don't like so you will have to live with it. I disagree. Join in and you become a forum regular/clique member (delete to taste) anyway - so in my mind it invalidates the clique argument anyway. New posters are generally treated pretty well in my opinion, they are often defended by regulars if anyone oversteps the line. Idiots and unpleasant folk fair less well, be they regulars or newbies. Someone said 'you reap what you sow' on the forums and I tend to agree on the whole. Well you would disagree wouldn't you. There are many new posters that get ignored or abused. It happened again last night by all accounts. Some even logged back in to have a go. Sad really but we all have a right to an opinion and those who stand back and watch are more likely to see it." You see? The regulars can't win, we give our opinion in a reasonable manner and we are still a bunch of nasty bullies. May I respectfully suggest you click on the little green arrow next to my user name and see how many 'why can't I get a meet' or 'timewaster' threads I have offered genuine advice on before you say such pointlessly dismissive things as 'well you would disagree wouldn't you'? I'm not having a go here, I'm trying to show you the way it really is. | |||
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"Not sure about cliques, but it seems every thread turns into regular posters trying to show how funny they can be by writing sarcastic posts to genuine questions. So you get half the posts in a thread taken up by complete rubbish. " One man's rubbish is another man's joy. Who do we set up to judge this then? | |||
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"I love the ones who say they don't exist on here as they are in the main the instigators. To the op some people on here just like to abuse new posters they don't like so you will have to live with it. I disagree. Join in and you become a forum regular/clique member (delete to taste) anyway - so in my mind it invalidates the clique argument anyway. New posters are generally treated pretty well in my opinion, they are often defended by regulars if anyone oversteps the line. Idiots and unpleasant folk fair less well, be they regulars or newbies. Someone said 'you reap what you sow' on the forums and I tend to agree on the whole. Well you would disagree wouldn't you. There are many new posters that get ignored or abused. It happened again last night by all accounts. Some even logged back in to have a go. Sad really but we all have a right to an opinion and those who stand back and watch are more likely to see it. You see? The regulars can't win, we give our opinion in a reasonable manner and we are still a bunch of nasty bullies. May I respectfully suggest you click on the little green arrow next to my user name and see how many 'why can't I get a meet' or 'timewaster' threads I have offered genuine advice on before you say such pointlessly dismissive things as 'well you would disagree wouldn't you'? I'm not having a go here, I'm trying to show you the way it really is. " I have been here a lot longer than you and i do see who does what. The difference though is i am here to meet people. Its funny though how many have told me about pm's going round about someone and you shouldn't like them. I will just say your idea of the way it really is doesn't happen to be anyway near right in my opinion but i don't feel the need to suck up to people. | |||
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"I love the ones who say they don't exist on here as they are in the main the instigators. To the op some people on here just like to abuse new posters they don't like so you will have to live with it. I disagree. Join in and you become a forum regular/clique member (delete to taste) anyway - so in my mind it invalidates the clique argument anyway. New posters are generally treated pretty well in my opinion, they are often defended by regulars if anyone oversteps the line. Idiots and unpleasant folk fair less well, be they regulars or newbies. Someone said 'you reap what you sow' on the forums and I tend to agree on the whole. Well you would disagree wouldn't you. There are many new posters that get ignored or abused. It happened again last night by all accounts. Some even logged back in to have a go. Sad really but we all have a right to an opinion and those who stand back and watch are more likely to see it. You see? The regulars can't win, we give our opinion in a reasonable manner and we are still a bunch of nasty bullies. May I respectfully suggest you click on the little green arrow next to my user name and see how many 'why can't I get a meet' or 'timewaster' threads I have offered genuine advice on before you say such pointlessly dismissive things as 'well you would disagree wouldn't you'? I'm not having a go here, I'm trying to show you the way it really is. I have been here a lot longer than you and i do see who does what. The difference though is i am here to meet people. Its funny though how many have told me about pm's going round about someone and you shouldn't like them. I will just say your idea of the way it really is doesn't happen to be anyway near right in my opinion but i don't feel the need to suck up to people." I'm not going to enter into a Fab 'Top Trumps' with you here. I am also here to meet people and I certainly do that, I don't suck up to people, if I have an opinion on a subject I will share it if I feel the need. As for PM rumours I rarely hear them and I never take any interest in them. So we disagree, but I shall hold my opinion and you may hold yours and Fab will roll on regardless. Yet if I am told what I am when it is wrong I shall certainly not just sit back and accept it. | |||
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"We havent really seen much abuse to be fairly honest..or anything that smacks of abuse anyway. We've seen a lot of people being ignored though, us included in the past and still occasionally. In chat you actually have to dive on peoples conversations to get noticed, or just be another name on the screen. At least in the forum all topics are open for anyone to join in with. As whats been said probably in this rather long thread, a lot on here go to socials so they know each other..same as on the chatrooms." I just wanted to respond to this cause I remember when I first started posting on a forum and it was scary... all of these people seemed to know each other and and here was I, wet behind the ears and utterly clueless about swinging. However... not being a shrinking violet I just waded in there, same as I did here really. I've been a member here for a few years now. I've only started to use the forums fairly recently so I wasn't part of any clique. I just joined in. If someone ignores a post I write (it happens all the time!) and I think I've put lots of thought and effort into it but I have a tendancy to waffle so chances are some people read the first line and then think fuck that... I can't be bothered reading that same old drivel she's posted again. I don't take it personally. I don't care. Made me feel better to get whatever I had to say off my chest and if it helps someone else, makes them smile or even makes them roll their eyes then its all good. Join in. That's the key to any clique. | |||
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" Well you would disagree wouldn't you. There are many new posters that get ignored or abused. It happened again last night by all accounts. Some even logged back in to have a go. Sad really but we all have a right to an opinion and those who stand back and watch are more likely to see it." actually I find it interesting that certain people only ever come into threads to have a go... always negative and never positive, it is as if they like to fan the flames.. make it a bit hotter... and then have a giggle while inciting other people.....hmmm onto the topic anyway....if new people come in and asks a question they may have been asked at all recently.. so no one answers it... the regs get flamed if new people come in, ask question and someone points them in the direction of a thread.... the regs get flamed... if new people come in, get abusive as that person did last night...started a thread called "the site is full of idiots"..people answered back.... the regs get flamed... and newbie gets "there there there" from certain people... i am sorry... thats bizzare!! sometimes I thing the regs are damned if they do... and damned if they don't... and if they have the audacity to question a question or a statement... thens its bullying.... so lets go back to my favourite word at the moment......pish!!! are the forums anymore of a clique then the chatrooms.... hell no... than the socials... hell no.. you are going to gravitate to people you talk to... regardless of what situation you are in.. be that work, pub, or anything in between.... would you expect everyone in a pub who don't know to talk to you your first time in.... no... would you at work... no... so what would any situation in real life and here any different? so maybe the regs have a part in this.... but then so do the newbies, and that is the thing we forget..... so maybe they should get a feel for the place before jumping in two footed... maybe they should read the hints and tips.... maybe they should read the FAQ's..... it is a two part process.. and those laying the blame on those who may be here the most i think are very unfair... yes we were all new here once... but good old common sense got us thru that... maybe the same common sense that knows that 1st post whinges aren't really the way to get yourself known.... that abusive threads aren't going to get you meets.... that you are going to be rightly or wrongly judged on your words because we are not going to have anything else to go on at that stage!! remember... two way street..... | |||
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"I love the ones who say they don't exist on here as they are in the main the instigators. To the op some people on here just like to abuse new posters they don't like so you will have to live with it. I disagree. Join in and you become a forum regular/clique member (delete to taste) anyway - so in my mind it invalidates the clique argument anyway. New posters are generally treated pretty well in my opinion, they are often defended by regulars if anyone oversteps the line. Idiots and unpleasant folk fair less well, be they regulars or newbies. Someone said 'you reap what you sow' on the forums and I tend to agree on the whole. Well you would disagree wouldn't you. There are many new posters that get ignored or abused. It happened again last night by all accounts. Some even logged back in to have a go. Sad really but we all have a right to an opinion and those who stand back and watch are more likely to see it. You see? The regulars can't win, we give our opinion in a reasonable manner and we are still a bunch of nasty bullies. May I respectfully suggest you click on the little green arrow next to my user name and see how many 'why can't I get a meet' or 'timewaster' threads I have offered genuine advice on before you say such pointlessly dismissive things as 'well you would disagree wouldn't you'? I'm not having a go here, I'm trying to show you the way it really is. I have been here a lot longer than you and i do see who does what. The difference though is i am here to meet people. Its funny though how many have told me about pm's going round about someone and you shouldn't like them. I will just say your idea of the way it really is doesn't happen to be anyway near right in my opinion but i don't feel the need to suck up to people. I'm not going to enter into a Fab 'Top Trumps' with you here. I am also here to meet people and I certainly do that, I don't suck up to people, if I have an opinion on a subject I will share it if I feel the need. As for PM rumours I rarely hear them and I never take any interest in them. So we disagree, but I shall hold my opinion and you may hold yours and Fab will roll on regardless. Yet if I am told what I am when it is wrong I shall certainly not just sit back and accept it. " I love the way you twist things. I didn't tell you what you are is wrong i said you have a inaccurate vision of what occurs on here. And i am not playing top trumps i was responding to your green arrow reference and letting you know i have been here a few years so have seen things happen.Maybe you should do as you say and meet a few and you might see the wider picture. | |||
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" Well you would disagree wouldn't you. There are many new posters that get ignored or abused. It happened again last night by all accounts. Some even logged back in to have a go. Sad really but we all have a right to an opinion and those who stand back and watch are more likely to see it. actually I find it interesting that certain people only ever come into threads to have a go... always negative and never positive, it is as if they like to fan the flames.. make it a bit hotter... and then have a giggle while inciting other people.....hmmm onto the topic anyway....if new people come in and asks a question they may have been asked at all recently.. so no one answers it... the regs get flamed if new people come in, ask question and someone points them in the direction of a thread.... the regs get flamed... if new people come in, get abusive as that person did last night...started a thread called "the site is full of idiots"..people answered back.... the regs get flamed... and newbie gets "there there there" from certain people... i am sorry... thats bizzare!! sometimes I thing the regs are damned if they do... and damned if they don't... and if they have the audacity to question a question or a statement... thens its bullying.... so lets go back to my favourite word at the moment......pish!!! are the forums anymore of a clique then the chatrooms.... hell no... than the socials... hell no.. you are going to gravitate to people you talk to... regardless of what situation you are in.. be that work, pub, or anything in between.... would you expect everyone in a pub who don't know to talk to you your first time in.... no... would you at work... no... so what would any situation in real life and here any different? so maybe the regs have a part in this.... but then so do the newbies, and that is the thing we forget..... so maybe they should get a feel for the place before jumping in two footed... maybe they should read the hints and tips.... maybe they should read the FAQ's..... it is a two part process.. and those laying the blame on those who may be here the most i think are very unfair... yes we were all new here once... but good old common sense got us thru that... maybe the same common sense that knows that 1st post whinges aren't really the way to get yourself known.... that abusive threads aren't going to get you meets.... that you are going to be rightly or wrongly judged on your words because we are not going to have anything else to go on at that stage!! remember... two way street..... " you hit the nail on the head, took me a while to start using the forums.And with my very first thread i got the advice i needed and made some good friends at the same time | |||
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" I love the way you twist things. I didn't tell you what you are is wrong i said you have a inaccurate vision of what occurs on here. And i am not playing top trumps i was responding to your green arrow reference and letting you know i have been here a few years so have seen things happen.Maybe you should do as you say and meet a few and you might see the wider picture. " I disagree, fair enough you have your opinion no problem. I do, however, take exception to you saying I should 'meet a few'. You have no idea who I have met or when, especially as I choose to hide most of my verifications. | |||
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"Not sure about cliques, but it seems every thread turns into regular posters trying to show how funny they can be by writing sarcastic posts to genuine questions. So you get half the posts in a thread taken up by complete rubbish. One man's rubbish is another man's joy. Who do we set up to judge this then? " Ive seen someone start a thread asking for advice(and not the usual single male threads), and they get 10+ posts that are either sarcastic or stupid answers or you get a little conversation within a thread with their fellow friedns on here. So you end up with a load of crap that has no real relevence to the orignial op's question. For a start, if someone asks a serious question, stop all the sarcastic, stupid answers. | |||
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" I love the way you twist things. I didn't tell you what you are is wrong i said you have a inaccurate vision of what occurs on here. And i am not playing top trumps i was responding to your green arrow reference and letting you know i have been here a few years so have seen things happen.Maybe you should do as you say and meet a few and you might see the wider picture. I disagree, fair enough you have your opinion no problem. I do, however, take exception to you saying I should 'meet a few'. You have no idea who I have met or when, especially as I choose to hide most of my verifications. " So do i that's why i know what i know lol. You can take exception if you like though it doesn't alter reality. | |||
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"Not sure about cliques, but it seems every thread turns into regular posters trying to show how funny they can be by writing sarcastic posts to genuine questions. So you get half the posts in a thread taken up by complete rubbish. One man's rubbish is another man's joy. Who do we set up to judge this then? Ive seen someone start a thread asking for advice(and not the usual single male threads), and they get 10+ posts that are either sarcastic or stupid answers or you get a little conversation within a thread with their fellow friedns on here. So you end up with a load of crap that has no real relevence to the orignial op's question. For a start, if someone asks a serious question, stop all the sarcastic, stupid answers. " Yep seen the same many times my self. You can see how it puts lots of people off. | |||
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"Now Now Boys! Rock, Paper, Scissors would be a quicker way to sort this out you know! " scissors "pokes tongue out and runs off" this is about as far as im going on here | |||
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"Not sure about cliques, but it seems every thread turns into regular posters trying to show how funny they can be by writing sarcastic posts to genuine questions. So you get half the posts in a thread taken up by complete rubbish. One man's rubbish is another man's joy. Who do we set up to judge this then? Ive seen someone start a thread asking for advice(and not the usual single male threads), and they get 10+ posts that are either sarcastic or stupid answers or you get a little conversation within a thread with their fellow friedns on here. So you end up with a load of crap that has no real relevence to the orignial op's question. For a start, if someone asks a serious question, stop all the sarcastic, stupid answers. Yep seen the same many times my self. You can see how it puts lots of people off." .......... and see... the problem is if the same question or statement has been made lets just say.... 5 or 10 times in a 2 or 3 week period... you could see how it would get to people... so you could point them in the way or a thread where it was answered... and then you get flamed for not being nice... or... you could point them in the direction of the FAQ ... but then you get flamed for being impersonal..... or you could answer the question again and again and then you'd get flamed for repeating yourself..... at times... you can't win..... and some people seem to take a lot of glee in that!!!! some persons shit is another persons gold..... if it is shit... it will fall off page 1 eventually.... if someone makes gold of it... good on them... but if it is shit to you.... don't answer it!!!! | |||
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"The day humour and banter is not allowed on the forums you shall see my last post. If you regard it as drivel then don't read it - plenty of people do enjoy it and have a laugh. I agree, humour and banter on the forums is fun...however...I too have seen "interesting" posts "ruined" by "inappropriate" banter in the middle, or "love ins" amongst friends. I've said so on more than one ocassion. How hard is it to continue your banter in pms instead of killing off threads?!! No one is saying you can't have a laugh - how dull would that be - but some people seem to want to prove how "funny" they are - I'm not always laughing! Just my opinion of course! " I must admit I find it a little annoying when a thread gets derailed. Sometimes the replies have nothing to do with the original question. | |||
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"Not sure about cliques, but it seems every thread turns into regular posters trying to show how funny they can be by writing sarcastic posts to genuine questions. So you get half the posts in a thread taken up by complete rubbish. One man's rubbish is another man's joy. Who do we set up to judge this then? Ive seen someone start a thread asking for advice(and not the usual single male threads), and they get 10+ posts that are either sarcastic or stupid answers or you get a little conversation within a thread with their fellow friedns on here. So you end up with a load of crap that has no real relevence to the orignial op's question. For a start, if someone asks a serious question, stop all the sarcastic, stupid answers. Yep seen the same many times my self. You can see how it puts lots of people off. .......... and see... the problem is if the same question or statement has been made lets just say.... 5 or 10 times in a 2 or 3 week period... you could see how it would get to people... so you could point them in the way or a thread where it was answered... and then you get flamed for not being nice... or... you could point them in the direction of the FAQ ... but then you get flamed for being impersonal..... or you could answer the question again and again and then you'd get flamed for repeating yourself..... at times... you can't win..... and some people seem to take a lot of glee in that!!!! some persons shit is another persons gold..... if it is shit... it will fall off page 1 eventually.... if someone makes gold of it... good on them... but if it is shit to you.... don't answer it!!!!" Yes, but you can have a thread asking for advice that is non swinging related, and i can guarantee that there will be the usual suspects waiting to say a sarcastic or stupid reply. So you have to sift through the crap to find a sensible answer. Too many keyboard comedians on here im afraid! | |||
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"The day humour and banter is not allowed on the forums you shall see my last post. If you regard it as drivel then don't read it - plenty of people do enjoy it and have a laugh. I agree, humour and banter on the forums is fun...however...I too have seen "interesting" posts "ruined" by "inappropriate" banter in the middle, or "love ins" amongst friends. I've said so on more than one ocassion. How hard is it to continue your banter in pms instead of killing off threads?!! No one is saying you can't have a laugh - how dull would that be - but some people seem to want to prove how "funny" they are - I'm not always laughing! Just my opinion of course! I must admit I find it a little annoying when a thread gets derailed. Sometimes the replies have nothing to do with the original question. " But is that not the same as a conversation? I'm always going off at a tangent when chatting to people xxxxx | |||
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"Have been saying it for months, this site is very clicky,there is the forums click and the general chat room click, both different groups but they do exist " Just as they do on every other site too. | |||
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"Have been saying it for months, this site is very clicky,there is the forums click and the general chat room click, both different groups but they do exist Just as they do on every other site too. " exactly but why people on here try and pretend it dont happen here is beyond us. | |||
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"Have been saying it for months, this site is very clicky,there is the forums click and the general chat room click, both different groups but they do exist Just as they do on every other site too. exactly but why people on here try and pretend it dont happen here is beyond us." They do that on every other site too. There's only a clique if you're not in it. The only way of there not being a clique is if you're in it! | |||
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"Have been saying it for months, this site is very clicky,there is the forums click and the general chat room click, both different groups but they do exist Just as they do on every other site too. exactly but why people on here try and pretend it dont happen here is beyond us." not saying that i agree at all... but then shouldn't the question then be this: if we are now saying that Cliques exist in all walks of life and are more normal than not... then why do people then complain about them existing here? surely then this reflects life? or is it only the people who think that they are on the outside of perceived cliques who complain about then? | |||
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"Pretty much when someone has done something wrong on here depending on the level of their naughtiness their post is deleted, the thread is deleted, they are suspended or banned. I think the mods do a great job keeping this up. So anything then said in the forums is pretty much bona fide and perfectly legitimate. That includes insightful debate, helpful comments, unhelpful nasty comments and 'silly/stupid' comments. I'm afraid if you don't like one of those styles of post then tough shit really!!! Learn to relax and live with it, or leave, would be my advice. Whining about it is painfully pathetic to read." I totally agree with you there! The introduction to the forum rules do say that the forums are meant to be fun. I truely believe some people haven't got a clue about the meaning of 'fun'.... Maybe some should go and try the Mensa forums for serious intellectual discussion if that's what they are looking for | |||
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"Have been saying it for months, this site is very clicky,there is the forums click and the general chat room click, both different groups but they do exist " ...and there are those who use both chatrooms and forums.... are they cliquety-clique? | |||
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"Have been saying it for months, this site is very clicky,there is the forums click and the general chat room click, both different groups but they do exist ...and there are those who use both chatrooms and forums.... are they cliquety-clique? " Bingo !!!!!! | |||
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"Have been saying it for months, this site is very clicky,there is the forums click and the general chat room click, both different groups but they do exist ...and there are those who use both chatrooms and forums.... are they cliquety-clique? " or blankerdy blank ?.... | |||
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"I reckon I am going to be shot down now but what the hell. The other thread was started with a perfectly good question, it wasn't stupid, it wasn't a sweeping generalisation...it was just a question that is allowed. If the person has found that a lot of people only want to chat on here, then why can't he ask why are people joining a swinging site just to chat? Obviously, it is allowed to join just to chat, but there is no harm in him asking the question. " I would love to shag all the women on here. Some of them don't fancy me. Some of them want to do things I don't want to, and vice versa. But I'm happy to chat, and in some cases I might even persuade them to do things I like, or vice versa. Oh, and I have a job, and commitments, and a limited amount of energy. So if you do all want to shag me, the queue might be quite long. Chatting helps sort out most of these problems. It's a cunning plan, I know, but hey, it seems to help. | |||
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"We havent really seen much abuse to be fairly honest..or anything that smacks of abuse anyway. We've seen a lot of people being ignored though, us included in the past and still occasionally. In chat you actually have to dive on peoples conversations to get noticed, or just be another name on the screen. At least in the forum all topics are open for anyone to join in with. As whats been said probably in this rather long thread, a lot on here go to socials so they know each other..same as on the chatrooms. I just wanted to respond to this cause I remember when I first started posting on a forum and it was scary... all of these people seemed to know each other and and here was I, wet behind the ears and utterly clueless about swinging. However... not being a shrinking violet I just waded in there, same as I did here really. I've been a member here for a few years now. I've only started to use the forums fairly recently so I wasn't part of any clique. I just joined in. If someone ignores a post I write (it happens all the time!) and I think I've put lots of thought and effort into it but I have a tendancy to waffle so chances are some people read the first line and then think fuck that... I can't be bothered reading that same old drivel she's posted again. I don't take it personally. I don't care. Made me feel better to get whatever I had to say off my chest and if it helps someone else, makes them smile or even makes them roll their eyes then its all good. Join in. That's the key to any clique. " +1 Sometimes a comment is made in the thread, which is/can be picked up on and takes the thread in a new direction also (I have been guilty of this). However some people know each other socially, have been on forums for a long time and get to know regular posters, so will answer back to each other, but as someone else has said it is like this in real life. In saying all this i dont believe anyone should be picked on, bullied, or whatever terminolgy people wish to use. In my opinion those who do so either have a very low self worth, opinion of them self and only do so to make themselves feel better. | |||
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"We havent really seen much abuse to be fairly honest..or anything that smacks of abuse anyway. We've seen a lot of people being ignored though, us included in the past and still occasionally. In chat you actually have to dive on peoples conversations to get noticed, or just be another name on the screen. At least in the forum all topics are open for anyone to join in with. As whats been said probably in this rather long thread, a lot on here go to socials so they know each other..same as on the chatrooms. I just wanted to respond to this cause I remember when I first started posting on a forum and it was scary... all of these people seemed to know each other and and here was I, wet behind the ears and utterly clueless about swinging. However... not being a shrinking violet I just waded in there, same as I did here really. I've been a member here for a few years now. I've only started to use the forums fairly recently so I wasn't part of any clique. I just joined in. If someone ignores a post I write (it happens all the time!) and I think I've put lots of thought and effort into it but I have a tendancy to waffle so chances are some people read the first line and then think fuck that... I can't be bothered reading that same old drivel she's posted again. I don't take it personally. I don't care. Made me feel better to get whatever I had to say off my chest and if it helps someone else, makes them smile or even makes them roll their eyes then its all good. Join in. That's the key to any clique. " wow, its like you read my mind and typed it out! Thanks for saving me the bother he he | |||
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