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You meet your dream man & he's taken...sigh
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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He goes to a few of my exercise classes & he's amazing. Handsome, funny, lovely, sweet etc.
So I thought I'd see if I could dig a bit on FB & I found he has a girlfriend of 1 year
Thing is. I'm really happy single. Like the happiest I've been in years & not looking for a relationship. But if he asked me..id be there like a shot.
Has this happened to anyone else? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I always think that the nice thing about sleep is that there is always another dream.....
You old tart/twat (delete as appropriate) you."
fixed that for you |
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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago
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I've been utterly, hopelessly in love with a woman friend who was taken.
I wouldn't have dreamed of doing anything to affect them or their situation.
It was/is horrible though and I had to create distance between us to get over it.
I can be tough OP. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Just to play devils' advocate for a moment.
Your dream man is just that. A dream, a fantasy.
Which is quite nice to have really.
In reality, he might be vain, or selfish, have bad breath? All sorts of things!
You will find a real one that will be just right for you- have faith x |
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There is this one guy I know who has a gf, he's hot like insanely hot and we flirt often.
Would I want him if he were single...probably not.
It's the forbidden fruit and temptation that is the attraction more than anything I think.
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"He goes to a few of my exercise classes & he's amazing. Handsome, funny, lovely, sweet etc.
So I thought I'd see if I could dig a bit on FB & I found he has a girlfriend of 1 year
Thing is. I'm really happy single. Like the happiest I've been in years & not looking for a relationship. But if he asked me..id be there like a shot.
Has this happened to anyone else? "
How come I never met you when I lived in Preston??? |
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"Oh yeah that's happened to me in the past, I've romanticised about a guy only to find out he wasn't single. "
A similar thing happens everytime i see you post and look at your pics.
I just wish we could meet. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The point has been made a few times that past a certain age, those men who are actually socially competent, able to have a conversation and are reasonably intelligent, attractive and fit have pretty much all been snapped up. Sorry. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Searched him on fb
Yep
And Ive avoided many idiots by checking them out on FB first. I'm no stalker just wary & careful "
Nothing wrong with a bit of social media 'stalking' |
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"Searched him on fb
Yep
And Ive avoided many idiots by checking them out on FB first. I'm no stalker just wary & careful
Nothing wrong with a bit of social media 'stalking' "
It's what fb was invented for |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Searched him on fb
Yep
And Ive avoided many idiots by checking them out on FB first. I'm no stalker just wary & careful
Nothing wrong with a bit of social media 'stalking'
It's what fb was invented for "
Exactly, along with the linked one, for business purposes of course |
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"Searched him on fb
Yep
And Ive avoided many idiots by checking them out on FB first. I'm no stalker just wary & careful
Nothing wrong with a bit of social media 'stalking'
It's what fb was invented for
Exactly, along with the linked one, for business purposes of course "
Yes but that one shows that you've been stalking so it kinda defeats the whole object, I've been bitten by that one before |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Searched him on fb
Yep
And Ive avoided many idiots by checking them out on FB first. I'm no stalker just wary & careful
Nothing wrong with a bit of social media 'stalking'
It's what fb was invented for
Exactly, along with the linked one, for business purposes of course
Yes but that one shows that you've been stalking so it kinda defeats the whole object, I've been bitten by that one before "
Ah novice, don't look whilst signed into yours!
You can sometimes see a basic profile by just googling their name |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The point has been made a few times that past a certain age, those men who are actually socially competent, able to have a conversation and are reasonably intelligent, attractive and fit have pretty much all been snapped up. Sorry. "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The point has been made a few times that past a certain age, those men who are actually socially competent, able to have a conversation and are reasonably intelligent, attractive and fit have pretty much all been snapped up. Sorry.
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Burn... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The point has been made a few times that past a certain age, those men who are actually socially competent, able to have a conversation and are reasonably intelligent, attractive and fit have pretty much all been snapped up. Sorry.
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And the exceptions are exceptional by definition |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The point has been made a few times that past a certain age, those men who are actually socially competent, able to have a conversation and are reasonably intelligent, attractive and fit have pretty much all been snapped up. Sorry.
Burn... "
Be nice you. He's only just come back again. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The point has been made a few times that past a certain age, those men who are actually socially competent, able to have a conversation and are reasonably intelligent, attractive and fit have pretty much all been snapped up. Sorry.
And the exceptions are exceptional by definition "
They are indeed! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The point has been made a few times that past a certain age, those men who are actually socially competent, able to have a conversation and are reasonably intelligent, attractive and fit have pretty much all been snapped up. Sorry. "
Is that the same for women? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The point has been made a few times that past a certain age, those men who are actually socially competent, able to have a conversation and are reasonably intelligent, attractive and fit have pretty much all been snapped up. Sorry.
Burn...
Be nice you. He's only just come back again. "
That was me being nice. |
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"The point has been made a few times that past a certain age, those men who are actually socially competent, able to have a conversation and are reasonably intelligent, attractive and fit have pretty much all been snapped up. Sorry.
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With the exception of Lib, obviously.
I do think guys become magically better looking when they are attached though (is this also true of the opposite gender?).
Maybe the girlfriend buys him his clothes, or he seems happy and confident which is an attractive feature.
I often see a guy and think he's lovely and he's spoken for. If he's not, I am always wondering "why?". lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The point has been made a few times that past a certain age, those men who are actually socially competent, able to have a conversation and are reasonably intelligent, attractive and fit have pretty much all been snapped up. Sorry.
And the exceptions are exceptional by definition "
There are a few, Lib for instance. I'm sure there's more...... somewhere. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I like the unavailable ones
It's meeting the man of your dreams, then meeting his beautiful wife.
By the way, that's not ironic "
I never claimed it to be. Take it up with Alanis. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I like the unavailable ones
It's meeting the man of your dreams, then meeting his beautiful wife.
By the way, that's not ironic "
But it is very "scene" |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I like the unavailable ones
It's meeting the man of your dreams, then meeting his beautiful wife.
By the way, that's not ironic
I never claimed it to be. Take it up with Alanis. "
She's having her stomach pumped again... (not a reference to suicide before I get beaten to death by the goon squad.. it's part of an urban myth) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I like the unavailable ones
It's meeting the man of your dreams, then meeting his beautiful wife.
By the way, that's not ironic
I never claimed it to be. Take it up with Alanis.
She's having her stomach pumped again... (not a reference to suicide before I get beaten to death by the goon squad.. it's part of an urban myth)"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The point has been made a few times that past a certain age, those men who are actually socially competent, able to have a conversation and are reasonably intelligent, attractive and fit have pretty much all been snapped up. Sorry. "
Oi, that's *my* point. And then I end up having to fuck the exceptions to make up for hurting their feelings |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The point has been made a few times that past a certain age, those men who are actually socially competent, able to have a conversation and are reasonably intelligent, attractive and fit have pretty much all been snapped up. Sorry.
Oi, that's *my* point. And then I end up having to fuck the exceptions to make up for hurting their feelings "
I knew I'd heard it somewhere! |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"The point has been made a few times that past a certain age, those men who are actually socially competent, able to have a conversation and are reasonably intelligent, attractive and fit have pretty much all been snapped up. Sorry.
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does that feel like you have just run over the single men on here with a big bus......
that almost felt like a backhanded put down..... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The point has been made a few times that past a certain age, those men who are actually socially competent, able to have a conversation and are reasonably intelligent, attractive and fit have pretty much all been snapped up. Sorry.
does that feel like you have just run over the single men on here with a big bus......
that almost felt like a backhanded put down....."
I don't think it is. Beyond late 30s, say, you're talking about men who have either made a conscious decision they want to remain single into middle age (which in my experience is a small proportion) or those who, quite frankly, aren't relationship material for specific reasons. I know all the consciously single ones will have a shit but if they're deliberately single then I don't know why they'd be offended by something which doesn't apply to them. |
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"Searched him on fb
Yep
And Ive avoided many idiots by checking them out on FB first. I'm no stalker just wary & careful "
To be honest I thought the seeking out on Facebook stalkerish. Why would you need to go there as it's you fantasising about him, not him checking you out.
I agree with being careful: I Google anyone who contacts me. So far I've discovered three "single" men weren't. One was receiving a pro-am golf trophy...he'd just won with his wife. The other was attending a lecture...with his wife. The other had just been made partner at a top London accounting firm and was photographed...with his wife. Then there was the one who's name popped up on a list of contributers...to the BNP! Oh how we laughed at that one...not!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The point has been made a few times that past a certain age, those men who are actually socially competent, able to have a conversation and are reasonably intelligent, attractive and fit have pretty much all been snapped up. Sorry.
does that feel like you have just run over the single men on here with a big bus......
that almost felt like a backhanded put down....."
Not really. I've witnessed "land grab" with the young men in the office being tied down to a partner. The same hasn't applied to the females of the same age who seem to have more choice and control over the matter!
Those who are single are either consciously and deliberately single, or are a bit weird, or way too geeky. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If you're married and cheating on here is it less complicated to meet other people who are also cheating? "
From limited experience, yes:
Similar expectations and needs, similar constraints and availability, similar outlook. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If you're married and cheating on here is it less complicated to meet other people who are also cheating?
From limited experience, yes:
Similar expectations and needs, similar constraints and availability, similar outlook. "
Hmmm, maybe fab should introduce a tick box on your profile so you can find each other, and also so people could not have them included in search. Obviously this relies upon a certain level of honesty. (don't not laugh!)
So essentially a single profile, with an "I'm cheating" tick box. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think you'll find it's ......all the best women are married. All the handsome men are gay.....
I'm not gay... Oh, never mind.
You're in denial. "
Denial? How dare you? *flips hair and walks off* |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think you'll find it's ......all the best women are married. All the handsome men are gay.....
I'm not gay... Oh, never mind.
You're in denial.
LOOOOOOL
Oh dear, that made me laugh "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If you're married and cheating on here is it less complicated to meet other people who are also cheating?
From limited experience, yes:
Similar expectations and needs, similar constraints and availability, similar outlook.
Hmmm, maybe fab should introduce a tick box on your profile so you can find each other, and also so people could not have them included in search. Obviously this relies upon a certain level of honesty. (don't not laugh!)
So essentially a single profile, with an "I'm cheating" tick box. "
And allow easy blocking.
There'd still going to be (men mainly) those who lie on here to try and get a meet (ref: those who are bi or smokers who lie)
A year ago I would have said this wouldn't work because of the forum vitriol against cheats, but the atmosphere is more balanced now.
I'd certainly tick that box. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If you're married and cheating on here is it less complicated to meet other people who are also cheating?
From limited experience, yes:
Similar expectations and needs, similar constraints and availability, similar outlook.
Hmmm, maybe fab should introduce a tick box on your profile so you can find each other, and also so people could not have them included in search. Obviously this relies upon a certain level of honesty. (don't not laugh!)
So essentially a single profile, with an "I'm cheating" tick box.
And allow easy blocking.
There'd still going to be (men mainly) those who lie on here to try and get a meet (ref: those who are bi or smokers who lie)
A year ago I would have said this wouldn't work because of the forum vitriol against cheats, but the atmosphere is more balanced now.
I'd certainly tick that box. "
The forum doesn't matter though really. Just because 1% of fab know who's cheating who really gives a fuck. It'd be much better if they were "out and proud" as it were. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Ahh yes, still have my 15 year string crush on the now manager of my local McDonalds. Have a crush on the guy that comes in my gym. They're head fucks, meaning that I fuck them in my head and there's nothing they can do about it! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"He goes to a few of my exercise classes & he's amazing. Handsome, funny, lovely, sweet etc.
So I thought I'd see if I could dig a bit on FB & I found he has a girlfriend of 1 year
Thing is. I'm really happy single. Like the happiest I've been in years & not looking for a relationship. But if he asked me..id be there like a shot.
Has this happened to anyone else? "
Why i would see this as a challange |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This happens to men and women all the time, but probably more often to women.
The reason being that more women than men are hard-wired to search for a long-term partner. Therefore the most suitable men are more in demand and get snapped up quickly, unless they choose to be single in which case a lot are off the market for relationships as well through their own choice.
Kind of like fab flipped the other way I guess. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ahh yes, still have my 15 year string crush on the now manager of my local McDonalds. Have a crush on the guy that comes in my gym. They're head fucks, meaning that I fuck them in my head and there's nothing they can do about it!"
Head fucks, I like that!!
I have a few of those. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If you're married and cheating on here is it less complicated to meet other people who are also cheating?
From limited experience, yes:
Similar expectations and needs, similar constraints and availability, similar outlook.
Hmmm, maybe fab should introduce a tick box on your profile so you can find each other, and also so people could not have them included in search. Obviously this relies upon a certain level of honesty. (don't not laugh!)
So essentially a single profile, with an "I'm cheating" tick box. "
If people aren't going to write it on their profile, why would they tick a box instead? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If you're married and cheating on here is it less complicated to meet other people who are also cheating?
From limited experience, yes:
Similar expectations and needs, similar constraints and availability, similar outlook.
Hmmm, maybe fab should introduce a tick box on your profile so you can find each other, and also so people could not have them included in search. Obviously this relies upon a certain level of honesty. (don't not laugh!)
So essentially a single profile, with an "I'm cheating" tick box.
If people aren't going to write it on their profile, why would they tick a box instead?"
This was to enable them to find each other easier as there was a thought that someone who is cheating could have more success looking for NSA sex from another cheater. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If you're married and cheating on here is it less complicated to meet other people who are also cheating?
From limited experience, yes:
Similar expectations and needs, similar constraints and availability, similar outlook.
Hmmm, maybe fab should introduce a tick box on your profile so you can find each other, and also so people could not have them included in search. Obviously this relies upon a certain level of honesty. (don't not laugh!)
So essentially a single profile, with an "I'm cheating" tick box.
If people aren't going to write it on their profile, why would they tick a box instead?
This was to enable them to find each other easier as there was a thought that someone who is cheating could have more success looking for NSA sex from another cheater."
Ah okay, that's not a bad idea. The only issue I see with that is it may make you more susceptible to abuse from the anti's. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I like the unavailable ones
It's meeting the man of your dreams, then meeting his beautiful wife.
Can I have them both?"
You're clearly a very bad girl! I like you, where are you again?.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If you're married and cheating on here is it less complicated to meet other people who are also cheating?
From limited experience, yes:
Similar expectations and needs, similar constraints and availability, similar outlook.
Hmmm, maybe fab should introduce a tick box on your profile so you can find each other, and also so people could not have them included in search. Obviously this relies upon a certain level of honesty. (don't not laugh!)
So essentially a single profile, with an "I'm cheating" tick box.
If people aren't going to write it on their profile, why would they tick a box instead?
This was to enable them to find each other easier as there was a thought that someone who is cheating could have more success looking for NSA sex from another cheater.
Ah okay, that's not a bad idea. The only issue I see with that is it may make you more susceptible to abuse from the anti's. "
Why would anyone care what anti's think you won't be getting together with them anyway? If they want to adopt some presumed moral high ground without knowing the facts who cares? |
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"I like the unavailable ones
It's meeting the man of your dreams, then meeting his beautiful wife.
Can I have them both?
You're clearly a very bad girl! I like you, where are you again?.. "
I'm never bad |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If you're married and cheating on here is it less complicated to meet other people who are also cheating?
From limited experience, yes:
Similar expectations and needs, similar constraints and availability, similar outlook.
Hmmm, maybe fab should introduce a tick box on your profile so you can find each other, and also so people could not have them included in search. Obviously this relies upon a certain level of honesty. (don't not laugh!)
So essentially a single profile, with an "I'm cheating" tick box.
If people aren't going to write it on their profile, why would they tick a box instead?
This was to enable them to find each other easier as there was a thought that someone who is cheating could have more success looking for NSA sex from another cheater.
Ah okay, that's not a bad idea. The only issue I see with that is it may make you more susceptible to abuse from the anti's.
Why would anyone care what anti's think you won't be getting together with them anyway? If they want to adopt some presumed moral high ground without knowing the facts who cares?"
Some like to send messages, can be rather unpleasant at times... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If you're married and cheating on here is it less complicated to meet other people who are also cheating?
From limited experience, yes:
Similar expectations and needs, similar constraints and availability, similar outlook.
Hmmm, maybe fab should introduce a tick box on your profile so you can find each other, and also so people could not have them included in search. Obviously this relies upon a certain level of honesty. (don't not laugh!)
So essentially a single profile, with an "I'm cheating" tick box.
If people aren't going to write it on their profile, why would they tick a box instead?
This was to enable them to find each other easier as there was a thought that someone who is cheating could have more success looking for NSA sex from another cheater.
Ah okay, that's not a bad idea. The only issue I see with that is it may make you more susceptible to abuse from the anti's.
Why would anyone care what anti's think you won't be getting together with them anyway? If they want to adopt some presumed moral high ground without knowing the facts who cares?
Some like to send messages, can be rather unpleasant at times..."
Perhaps if you could block messages from people who've ticked a "won't meet cheaters" or similar box. Would cut a lot of the hypocrites off in their tracks |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If you're married and cheating on here is it less complicated to meet other people who are also cheating?
From limited experience, yes:
Similar expectations and needs, similar constraints and availability, similar outlook.
Hmmm, maybe fab should introduce a tick box on your profile so you can find each other, and also so people could not have them included in search. Obviously this relies upon a certain level of honesty. (don't not laugh!)
So essentially a single profile, with an "I'm cheating" tick box.
If people aren't going to write it on their profile, why would they tick a box instead?
This was to enable them to find each other easier as there was a thought that someone who is cheating could have more success looking for NSA sex from another cheater.
Ah okay, that's not a bad idea. The only issue I see with that is it may make you more susceptible to abuse from the anti's.
Why would anyone care what anti's think you won't be getting together with them anyway? If they want to adopt some presumed moral high ground without knowing the facts who cares?
Some like to send messages, can be rather unpleasant at times...
Perhaps if you could block messages from people who've ticked a "won't meet cheaters" or similar box. Would cut a lot of the hypocrites off in their tracks "
Now that's a good idea |
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"If you're married and cheating on here is it less complicated to meet other people who are also cheating?
From limited experience, yes:
Similar expectations and needs, similar constraints and availability, similar outlook.
Hmmm, maybe fab should introduce a tick box on your profile so you can find each other, and also so people could not have them included in search. Obviously this relies upon a certain level of honesty. (don't not laugh!)
So essentially a single profile, with an "I'm cheating" tick box.
If people aren't going to write it on their profile, why would they tick a box instead?
This was to enable them to find each other easier as there was a thought that someone who is cheating could have more success looking for NSA sex from another cheater.
Ah okay, that's not a bad idea. The only issue I see with that is it may make you more susceptible to abuse from the anti's.
Why would anyone care what anti's think you won't be getting together with them anyway? If they want to adopt some presumed moral high ground without knowing the facts who cares?
Some like to send messages, can be rather unpleasant at times...
Perhaps if you could block messages from people who've ticked a "won't meet cheaters" or similar box. Would cut a lot of the hypocrites off in their tracks " Yes this makes perfect sense although why would they be hypocrites? I don't follow that logic. |
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"If you're married and cheating on here is it less complicated to meet other people who are also cheating?
From limited experience, yes:
Similar expectations and needs, similar constraints and availability, similar outlook.
Hmmm, maybe fab should introduce a tick box on your profile so you can find each other, and also so people could not have them included in search. Obviously this relies upon a certain level of honesty. (don't not laugh!)
So essentially a single profile, with an "I'm cheating" tick box.
If people aren't going to write it on their profile, why would they tick a box instead?
This was to enable them to find each other easier as there was a thought that someone who is cheating could have more success looking for NSA sex from another cheater.
Ah okay, that's not a bad idea. The only issue I see with that is it may make you more susceptible to abuse from the anti's.
Why would anyone care what anti's think you won't be getting together with them anyway? If they want to adopt some presumed moral high ground without knowing the facts who cares?
Some like to send messages, can be rather unpleasant at times...
Perhaps if you could block messages from people who've ticked a "won't meet cheaters" or similar box. Would cut a lot of the hypocrites off in their tracks Yes this makes perfect sense although why would they be hypocrites? I don't follow that logic. "
Because there are a multitude of people who proclaim on their profiles, statuses or on the forums that they would never meet a cheater, no never ever, that would be terrible - but then message trying to get a fuck. Hypocrites. |
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"If you're married and cheating on here is it less complicated to meet other people who are also cheating?
From limited experience, yes:
Similar expectations and needs, similar constraints and availability, similar outlook.
Hmmm, maybe fab should introduce a tick box on your profile so you can find each other, and also so people could not have them included in search. Obviously this relies upon a certain level of honesty. (don't not laugh!)
So essentially a single profile, with an "I'm cheating" tick box.
If people aren't going to write it on their profile, why would they tick a box instead?
This was to enable them to find each other easier as there was a thought that someone who is cheating could have more success looking for NSA sex from another cheater.
Ah okay, that's not a bad idea. The only issue I see with that is it may make you more susceptible to abuse from the anti's.
Why would anyone care what anti's think you won't be getting together with them anyway? If they want to adopt some presumed moral high ground without knowing the facts who cares?
Some like to send messages, can be rather unpleasant at times...
Perhaps if you could block messages from people who've ticked a "won't meet cheaters" or similar box. Would cut a lot of the hypocrites off in their tracks Yes this makes perfect sense although why would they be hypocrites? I don't follow that logic.
Because there are a multitude of people who proclaim on their profiles, statuses or on the forums that they would never meet a cheater, no never ever, that would be terrible - but then message trying to get a fuck. Hypocrites. "
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"If you're married and cheating on here is it less complicated to meet other people who are also cheating?
From limited experience, yes:
Similar expectations and needs, similar constraints and availability, similar outlook.
Hmmm, maybe fab should introduce a tick box on your profile so you can find each other, and also so people could not have them included in search. Obviously this relies upon a certain level of honesty. (don't not laugh!)
So essentially a single profile, with an "I'm cheating" tick box.
If people aren't going to write it on their profile, why would they tick a box instead?
This was to enable them to find each other easier as there was a thought that someone who is cheating could have more success looking for NSA sex from another cheater.
Ah okay, that's not a bad idea. The only issue I see with that is it may make you more susceptible to abuse from the anti's.
Why would anyone care what anti's think you won't be getting together with them anyway? If they want to adopt some presumed moral high ground without knowing the facts who cares?
Some like to send messages, can be rather unpleasant at times...
Perhaps if you could block messages from people who've ticked a "won't meet cheaters" or similar box. Would cut a lot of the hypocrites off in their tracks "
Good idea. I'd rather be able to contact the few who will than the majority who get all hysterical about something that doesn't even affect them. |
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"The point has been made a few times that past a certain age, those men who are actually socially competent, able to have a conversation and are reasonably intelligent, attractive and fit have pretty much all been snapped up. Sorry. "
Story of my life so far...
The woes of prefering a man who's over the age of 30.
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