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"I should explain. ... they were just talkng about the fact the uk would not intervene militarily against Russia in Syria without the USA and I just thought my god, what if Trump gets in.....  "
so you're ok with Russia targeting civilians, we should just do nothing? |
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By *risky_Mare OP Woman
over a year ago
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"I should explain. ... they were just talkng about the fact the uk would not intervene militarily against Russia in Syria without the USA and I just thought my god, what if Trump gets in..... so you're ok with Russia targeting civilians, we should just do nothing?"
Of course not - what's that got to do with anything? |
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Clinton -v- Putin is the real risk as she might get involved in a war.
Trump -v- Putin is fine. Trump quite likes Putin and Trump is not going to get involved in Syria. He wants to sort America out. Syria poses no threat to Syria. Can you really see Trump being bothered about Russia helping one lot of Syrian Muslims to bomb another lot of Syrian Muslims and getting involved in the humanitarian crisis that is causing? |
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By *risky_Mare OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Clinton -v- Putin is the real risk as she might get involved in a war.
Trump -v- Putin is fine. Trump quite likes Putin and Trump is not going to get involved in Syria. He wants to sort America out. Syria poses no threat to Syria. Can you really see Trump being bothered about Russia helping one lot of Syrian Muslims to bomb another lot of Syrian Muslims and getting involved in the humanitarian crisis that is causing?"
No, I was just imagining the stand off between two egotistical macho males with their hands on a nuclear button - not suggesting it would come to that. |
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It won't ever happen unless Putin decides to attack America which he won't.
Trump doesn't care about the rest of the world like other politicians do. He cares about the USA and that is good.
It doesn't really matter about chest beating. No one will ever press the button. If one side were to press, then the other side would press and both sides would be wiped out, followed by the human race. |
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By *risky_Mare OP Woman
over a year ago
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"It won't ever happen unless Putin decides to attack America which he won't.
Trump doesn't care about the rest of the world like other politicians do. He cares about the USA and that is good.
It doesn't really matter about chest beating. No one will ever press the button. If one side were to press, then the other side would press and both sides would be wiped out, followed by the human race."
Indeed, but regardless I think Putin is extremely dangerous, and I would not trust Trump as far as I can throw him.. |
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By *risky_Mare OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Trump likes a bit of wrestling (appeared in WWE Wrestlemania) and Putin likes strutting around with his shirt off. Put them both in a wrestling match to Duke it out.  "
Exactly. Camo mankinis, mud, I can see it now, sadly..... |
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"Clinton -v- Putin is the real risk as she might get involved in a war.
Trump -v- Putin is fine. Trump quite likes Putin and Trump is not going to get involved in Syria. He wants to sort America out. Syria poses no threat to Syria. Can you really see Trump being bothered about Russia helping one lot of Syrian Muslims to bomb another lot of Syrian Muslims and getting involved in the humanitarian crisis that is causing?"
 someone pays attention.
there wont be no putin vs trump because trump has said he wants to rebuild relations with russia and his main focus is america not the middle east.
the main threat is Clinton as she hates russia and putin and if she gets in, god help us all. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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the US would use Turkey's bases... and navy warships based in the eastern med....
the more interesting question would be if the US/UK and French decided to implement a "no fly" zone over parts of syria.... how would the russians then react? |
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By *risky_Mare OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Clinton -v- Putin is the real risk as she might get involved in a war.
Trump -v- Putin is fine. Trump quite likes Putin and Trump is not going to get involved in Syria. He wants to sort America out. Syria poses no threat to Syria. Can you really see Trump being bothered about Russia helping one lot of Syrian Muslims to bomb another lot of Syrian Muslims and getting involved in the humanitarian crisis that is causing?
someone pays attention.
there wont be no putin vs trump because trump has said he wants to rebuild relations with russia and his main focus is america not the middle east.
the main threat is Clinton as she hates russia and putin and if she gets in, god help us all."
I hear you - I was only commenting on the two characters I am not au fait with all their positions. |
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"It won't ever happen unless Putin decides to attack America which he won't.
Trump doesn't care about the rest of the world like other politicians do. He cares about the USA and that is good.
It doesn't really matter about chest beating. No one will ever press the button. If one side were to press, then the other side would press and both sides would be wiped out, followed by the human race.
Indeed, but regardless I think Putin is extremely dangerous, and I would not trust Trump as far as I can throw him.."
Obama is dangerous
clinton is dangerous
Blair was dangerous
Why do you think putin is more dangerous than any of those?
Now if russia started putting missile systems all along our borders or americas borders and put sanctions on us whilst arming militants how would you feel?
Thats exactly what the west is doing to russia and what ever russia does its a reaction to our actions.
go and watch putins speech "putins message to the world" where hes talking directly to the worlds media and he addrsses the US media in particular.
its an eye opener and seems putin is the omly one that wants to avoid any wars. |
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"Clinton -v- Putin is the real risk as she might get involved in a war.
Trump -v- Putin is fine. Trump quite likes Putin and Trump is not going to get involved in Syria. He wants to sort America out. Syria poses no threat to Syria. Can you really see Trump being bothered about Russia helping one lot of Syrian Muslims to bomb another lot of Syrian Muslims and getting involved in the humanitarian crisis that is causing?
someone pays attention.
there wont be no putin vs trump because trump has said he wants to rebuild relations with russia and his main focus is america not the middle east.
the main threat is Clinton as she hates russia and putin and if she gets in, god help us all.
I hear you - I was only commenting on the two characters I am not au fait with all their positions."
Oh dear OP.. Sometimes the can of worms just opens itself..
As for that pair of muppets, I would suggest crucifixion, but it's too good for them..
Maybe celebrity death match.. I'm sure MTV could gear that up. |
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By *risky_Mare OP Woman
over a year ago
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"It won't ever happen unless Putin decides to attack America which he won't.
Trump doesn't care about the rest of the world like other politicians do. He cares about the USA and that is good.
It doesn't really matter about chest beating. No one will ever press the button. If one side were to press, then the other side would press and both sides would be wiped out, followed by the human race.
Indeed, but regardless I think Putin is extremely dangerous, and I would not trust Trump as far as I can throw him..
Obama is dangerous
clinton is dangerous
Blair was dangerous
Why do you think putin is more dangerous than any of those?
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Because he does not seem to care about international law, and Trump seems a loose cannon to me, but I bow to your greater knowledge, I do now know enough to debate it. |
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By *risky_Mare OP Woman
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Oh dear OP.. Sometimes the can of worms just opens itself..
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It does indeed, lol, but I have no axe to grind here - muppets is about as deep as my perception of them goes, aggressive muppets.
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By *risky_Mare OP Woman
over a year ago
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"It won't ever happen unless Putin decides to attack America which he won't.
Trump doesn't care about the rest of the world like other politicians do. He cares about the USA and that is good.
It doesn't really matter about chest beating. No one will ever press the button. If one side were to press, then the other side would press and both sides would be wiped out, followed by the human race.
Indeed, but regardless I think Putin is extremely dangerous, and I would not trust Trump as far as I can throw him..
Obama is dangerous
clinton is dangerous
Blair was dangerous
Why do you think putin is more dangerous than any of those?
Because he does not seem to care about international law, and Trump seems a loose cannon to me, but I bow to your greater knowledge, I do now know enough to debate it."
I do NOT know enough to debate it that should read....  |
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"Trump is a strong guy and a very successful businessman. I agree with what you say about Putin, but if it came to it, who would you like to defend you? Trump or Corbyn?"
Errrm " very successful businessman?"
Hardly;
He is a fuckwit who has had massive business failures.
He is even more of a crap businessman than Alan Sugar |
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"There won't be any no fly zone. The experts have already said that it would be impossible to implement.
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and dangerous
the time to have implemented a no fly zone with the UN and the Arab leagues approval was about 4 years ago but its not going to happen now.. |
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But they are hardly THAT dangerous in the scheme of things are they? Compared to some of the other world leaders past and present.
And when was the last time a nuclear warhead was set off in anger. 1940s!
So the deterrent works. No one has dared press the button since, because they know what will happen.
And neither the USA nor Russia are North Korea, where the people dare not say "boo" and have to worship their leader like a god.
So if either leader really got stupid, then they would be removed immediately. |
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"Trump is worth about $4 billion and Sugar about £1.4 billion. Not in the same league."
But they are both equally crap businessmen.
And it depends on what you mean by " worth".
And what you count in and out.
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"I should explain. ... they were just talkng about the fact the uk would not intervene militarily against Russia in Syria without the USA and I just thought my god, what if Trump gets in..... so you're ok with Russia targeting civilians, we should just do nothing?"
War.
Upsides
Downsides
War.
Nobody should be ok with war in general, but easy to judge eh?
Is it better to not intervene and watch shit break down that has not veen since since medieval times breakdown? Stoning/Beheadings/Burning alive n all that.
War goes on civilians die.
Hard seeing it in real time i know.
half of eastern europe had to be rebuilt.. what the civilians went through is unthinkable at least..
You and your "first world problems" lol  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It won't ever happen unless Putin decides to attack America which he won't.
Trump doesn't care about the rest of the world like other politicians do. He cares about the USA and that is good.
It doesn't really matter about chest beating. No one will ever press the button. If one side were to press, then the other side would press and both sides would be wiped out, followed by the human race.
Indeed, but regardless I think Putin is extremely dangerous, and I would not trust Trump as far as I can throw him..
Obama is dangerous
clinton is dangerous
Blair was dangerous
Why do you think putin is more dangerous than any of those?
Now if russia started putting missile systems all along our borders or americas borders and put sanctions on us whilst arming militants how would you feel?
Thats exactly what the west is doing to russia and what ever russia does its a reaction to our actions.
go and watch putins speech "putins message to the world" where hes talking directly to the worlds media and he addrsses the US media in particular.
its an eye opener and seems putin is the omly one that wants to avoid any wars."
Lol well put.
One of Putins biggest achievements was getting "Shell" to stop making magic tricks, where oil from Russian territory stopped officially having anything to do with Russia once pumped out the ground, since the 1990's billions and billions of $ went straight abroad, budget had a great deficit and all. Man changed that..
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"the US would use Turkey's bases... and navy warships based in the eastern med....
the more interesting question would be if the US/UK and French decided to implement a "no fly" zone over parts of syria.... how would the russians then react?"
We still fly close to the UK.. like constantly.. with all your air deterrent's and other fancy gizmos.  Sometimes we get spotted and people get sensitive.. |
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"Trump is worth about $4 billion and Sugar about £1.4 billion. Not in the same league.
But they are both equally crap businessmen.
And it depends on what you mean by " worth".
And what you count in and out.
Crap businessmen ??? How can anyone on here say that.... (unless they are minted to the tune of 5 billion maybe)... in which case, let's be friends
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"Trump is worth about $4 billion and Sugar about £1.4 billion. Not in the same league.
But they are both equally crap businessmen.
And it depends on what you mean by " worth".
And what you count in and out.
Crap businessmen ??? How can anyone on here say that.... (unless they are minted to the tune of 5 billion maybe)... in which case, let's be friends
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Putin is possibly Europe's richest man with a personal fortune estimated at between $2-200bn |
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"Trump is worth about $4 billion and Sugar about £1.4 billion. Not in the same league.
But they are both equally crap businessmen.
And it depends on what you mean by " worth".
And what you count in and out.
Crap businessmen ??? How can anyone on here say that.... (unless they are minted to the tune of 5 billion maybe)... in which case, let's be friends
Putin is possibly Europe's richest man with a personal fortune estimated at between $2-200bn "
I wonder if that nice Mr Putin could give me a few million? |
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"Trump is worth about $4 billion and Sugar about £1.4 billion. Not in the same league.
But they are both equally crap businessmen.
And it depends on what you mean by " worth".
And what you count in and out.
Crap businessmen ??? How can anyone on here say that.... (unless they are minted to the tune of 5 billion maybe)... in which case, let's be friends
Putin is possibly Europe's richest man with a personal fortune estimated at between $2-200bn "
I wonder if that nice Mr Putin could give me a few million? |
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Ah the MAD must work else we'd all be dead angle.
I hope it remains true because it only needs to be wrong once
Putin and Trump deserve each other but I'm not so sure everyone else does |
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