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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I am watching inside out on bbc1 and it is interesting, they are talking about hiv and that they have found a revolutionary way to stop it by a drug, but it is not available commercially yet, what do you think of it? It would help many and its a breakthrough in medical science.

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By *oejoe247Man  over a year ago

Bognor

Is it for prevention of the initial catching or will it benifit the poor souls who have it allready too?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Is it for prevention of the initial catching or will it benifit the poor souls who have it allready too?"
It is mostly for the prevention of it, but not as much to those who have it, but probably wont be long till they find a way for that too.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I am watching inside out on bbc1 and it is interesting, they are talking about hiv and that they have found a revolutionary way to stop it by a drug, but it is not available commercially yet, what do you think of it? It would help many and its a breakthrough in medical science."

If that is the case, it is wonderful - though cost will always be a consideration.

It will always be cheaper to use a condom.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I am watching inside out on bbc1 and it is interesting, they are talking about hiv and that they have found a revolutionary way to stop it by a drug, but it is not available commercially yet, what do you think of it? It would help many and its a breakthrough in medical science.

If that is the case, it is wonderful - though cost will always be a consideration.

It will always be cheaper to use a condom."

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By *oejoe247Man  over a year ago

Bognor


"I am watching inside out on bbc1 and it is interesting, they are talking about hiv and that they have found a revolutionary way to stop it by a drug, but it is not available commercially yet, what do you think of it? It would help many and its a breakthrough in medical science.

If that is the case, it is wonderful - though cost will always be a consideration.

It will always be cheaper to use a condom."

Sexually yes but what about the hospital workers who deal with patients with it everyday as accidents do happen

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I am watching inside out on bbc1 and it is interesting, they are talking about hiv and that they have found a revolutionary way to stop it by a drug, but it is not available commercially yet, what do you think of it? It would help many and its a breakthrough in medical science."

My brother mentioned this the other day, think i shall have to have a watch

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This type of medical breakthrough always takes a while to become 100% efficient, and anyhow, hiv is not the only sexually transmitted disease. So even if this new drug is successful, I would still wear a condom, better safe than sorry.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If you take the pill then yes you'd have a lower risk of getting HIV but it does nothing to protect you from all the other stds out there. Hepatitis rates will just rocket if the pill became available on the Nhs. They've had pep for donkey's years and if you work in healthcare it's a blessing but you don't go out of your way to get stabbed by used sharps

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central

I'm interested in this, specifically which medication it is. Truvada now has a few years of patient use behind and is prescribed around the world as Prep - as we've discussed on these forum hiv threads a few times.

They. Were trialling a new med combo locally for the same purpose. Patient choice is a good thing, so that people can make educated choices about their health.

Anyone know about the specifics of what the show covered? And thanks to our wonderful TV guru Shag for highlighting this

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By *annooWoman  over a year ago

Hastings

I think if this is another form of vaccine people can have then I'm all for it in in health care and accidents can cause HIV as much as sexual things...everyday contact can be an issue

So yes all for it

As for the sexual side yes of course still use condoms uncase

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By *olden_Road_to_SamarkandMan  over a year ago

London & North Wessex Downs

Great for those that like to have unprotected sex with others, or those that fear that condoms do not provide adequate protection. The cost of the pill is less than the cost of treating HIV and any AIDS episodes that arise. As such the government have backed it in terms of reducing overall healthcare costs. HOWEVER, it will reduce condom use (I've chatted professionally with several gay guys who claim that they no longer need to worry about condoms)and significantly increase the spread of other diseases, many of which, like gonorrhoea, are becoming increasingly drug resistant. Reduced condom use in the gay community will impact the swinging community as the two are linked. As such it's more important than ever that swingers use condoms.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central

Is this the show from last night? Inside Out South East? http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b07y6xhn/inside-out-south-10102016 I understand that BBC links are permitted by site rules. It covered woodland living, amongst other things - but I couldn't see any HIV related stuff, though only skipped through it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Is this the show from last night? Inside Out South East? http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b07y6xhn/inside-out-south-10102016 I understand that BBC links are permitted by site rules. It covered woodland living, amongst other things - but I couldn't see any HIV related stuff, though only skipped through it. "
No not that one, this was the inside out london, does other part of uk have the same program too?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central

Thanks Shag - I've got it

It did cover Truvada as Preexposure Prohylaxis (PrEP) treatment. That's the medication that has been approved in a range of countries for this purpose. Its provision has been near miraculous in some places, such as San Francisco, where treatment centres had no new HIV infections in their user base: yet in what was once one of the cities devasted by AIDS deaths and infections.

The treatment is I'm sure, somewhat disliked by the general world due to some latent homophobia. But from a cost and treatment perspective, it is vastly cheaper than treating an increasing number of people who might otherwise get HIV infections and other health/life issues.

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By *ustaceSmithMan  over a year ago

Saxmundham

This issue is a microcosm of much larger issues in the NHS. It is a case of moral hazard, not one of homophobia or otherwise. Why should the taxpayer foot the bill for an extremely expensive substitute for condoms? Has one not a duty, within reason, not to cause cost to one's fellow taxpayer? The fact that PrEP is cheaper than HIV treatment misses the point.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Though PreP is highly effective it is not 100% and one must be strictly adherent to the medication. Side effects can also occur, plus the cost is around £400 a month! Do bear in mind other sti's can still thrive, as a previous poster mentioned gonorrhea is on the rise with a drug resistant strain developing.... not to mention the others Hepatitis, syphilis etc etc Personally a condom used correctly takes all those worries away from me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you take the pill then yes you'd have a lower risk of getting HIV but it does nothing to protect you from all the other stds out there. Hepatitis rates will just rocket if the pill became available on the Nhs. They've had pep for donkey's years and if you work in healthcare it's a blessing but you don't go out of your way to get stabbed by used sharps "
I was stabbed by a dirty needle outside a methadone users clinic worst three months of my life waiting for the results to come through I lost four stone down to the stress the NHS was brilliant.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This was in the radio and in the news again yesterday, do you think it's right that the NHS should have to fund it? Personally I don't unless there are cercomstances as in one half of a long term couple has it and they are staying monogamous.

But to say it should be given out to people just so they can fuck around it pure madness.

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