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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Story on RT news has annoyed me a woman was forced to move seats on an American airlines flight because two pakistani monks refused to sit by a her because they are not allowed to be near or converse with females WTF. How do they get on in every day life in America then I'm sick and tired of this bollocks pandering to peoples beliefs when they are not even in their own country it will soon be time to say happy holidays instead of happy Christmas just incase you offend someone. Before anyone calls me racist I have pakistani niecees and nephews it just makes me angry that we are forced to change our ways so as not to offend others but they don't have to change so as not to offend us bollocks and they wonder why there is a massive social divide  |
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I wouldn't have moved oout of principle.....unless they put me first class lol
Soon it'll be planes just for men!! Basically going back to segregation except it will be men and women not whites and blacks.....so sad that we're actually going backwards, equality is now going backwards |
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"I wouldn't have moved oout of principle.....unless they put me first class lol
Soon it'll be planes just for men!! Basically going back to segregation except it will be men and women not whites and blacks.....so sad that we're actually going backwards, equality is now going backwards "
this is the annoying thing if we visit an Islamic country we have to abide by they're laws and then we have to abide by they're laws in our own countries political pussies bowing down all the time |
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Islam does not have monks
Pakistan is also home to a large Buddhist population, one of the worlds most peaceful religions but one of the 250+ rules Buddhist monks should adhere to is to not touch women. Couple that with the orange robes in the story and it's more plausible that these monks were Buddhist.
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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago
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Did so also, yes they were Buddhists wearing orange long shirts and nothing to do with Islam. I do agree with you though I don't see why she had to move due to the beliefs of others. |
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"What's a Pakistani monk ? you tell me its on RT NEWS
They were Buddhist monks"
Won't make one iota bit of difference to some. Pakistani equals Islam, equals... (whatever causes you offense, real or imagined).  |
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To all those that take religion just a bit too literally...
There is no god!!
Now move on, nothing to see here..
For all the rest of the God fearing good folk,
If it makes you happy and brings you inner peace, and your beliefs do not affect others then more power to you. |
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"Airlines often move people to fit everyone in.
I dare say some opportunist hater has twisted this story.
She wasn't moved. They just changed her seat number before she boarded.
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Yeah but Granny that's not a story. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"From what i've read she was just handed a new boarding pass and was told it was because the monks cant sit by women.
She wasn't hoisted out of a seat. "
I'm starting a petition to get everyone with a bald head wearing orange evicted from this country and sent back to Islam. Who's in??!!!! |
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"Airlines often move people to fit everyone in.
I dare say some opportunist hater has twisted this story.
She wasn't moved. They just changed her seat number before she boarded.
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I'd be interested to know who blabbed. She wouldn't have known why she was moved unless they told her. Racist airline staff perhaps.  |
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"Airlines often move people to fit everyone in.
I dare say some opportunist hater has twisted this story.
She wasn't moved. They just changed her seat number before she boarded.
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Oh right,so me imagining she's been dragged from her seat screaming was wrong then... |
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"Airlines often move people to fit everyone in.
I dare say some opportunist hater has twisted this story.
She wasn't moved. They just changed her seat number before she boarded.
Yeah but Granny that's not a story."
Well it is but the lead in this version would be played by Mary Berry and in the twisted Muslim hating version...mmmmmm Arnie Asta La Vista. |
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"From what i've read she was just handed a new boarding pass and was told it was because the monks cant sit by women.
She wasn't hoisted out of a seat.
I'm starting a petition to get everyone with a bald head wearing orange evicted from this country and sent back to Islam. Who's in??!!!! "
That's far too strenuous for a Sunday one feels |
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"Airlines often move people to fit everyone in.
I dare say some opportunist hater has twisted this story.
She wasn't moved. They just changed her seat number before she boarded.
Oh right,so me imagining she's been dragged from her seat screaming was wrong then..."
Dunno. Intelligence is thin on the ground on this one.
We won't know the truth truth until the film is out. |
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"Airlines often move people to fit everyone in.
I dare say some opportunist hater has twisted this story.
She wasn't moved. They just changed her seat number before she boarded.
I'd be interested to know who blabbed. She wouldn't have known why she was moved unless they told her. Racist airline staff perhaps. "
According to my thin intelligence..... the person who handed her her boarding pass was alleged to have uttered ' Pakistani Monks are not allowed to sit by women.' ............ seems some training is on the cards. Or tongue cutting..... which ever works swiftest. |
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"Airlines often move people to fit everyone in.
I dare say some opportunist hater has twisted this story.
She wasn't moved. They just changed her seat number before she boarded.
Yeah but Granny that's not a story.
Well it is but the lead in this version would be played by Mary Berry and in the twisted Muslim hating version...mmmmmm Arnie Asta La Vista. "
In that case the BBC will need to get a move on  |
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"Airlines often move people to fit everyone in.
I dare say some opportunist hater has twisted this story.
She wasn't moved. They just changed her seat number before she boarded.
Oh right,so me imagining she's been dragged from her seat screaming was wrong then...
Dunno. Intelligence is thin on the ground on this one.
We won't know the truth truth until the film is out. "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It makes me laugh how most bigots always have a friend or family member that is black etc.. 
Why are you wasting your energy on being annoyed about things that didn't happen to you?
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By (user no longer on site)
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Been a bit of a bumber for the monks if all the cabin crew had been female then wouldn't it...how would they of asked for meals drinks etc. RT is known for making sensational news from obscure half truths like this story..the woman was probably asked if she minded moving when she was given the boarding pass people are making judgements here without all the facts...only the woman can give all the story.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"From what i've read she was just handed a new boarding pass and was told it was because the monks cant sit by women.
She wasn't hoisted out of a seat.
I'm starting a petition to get everyone with a bald head wearing orange evicted from this country and sent back to Islam. Who's in??!!!! "
Shit! I best burn my orange T-Shirt!!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"From what i've read she was just handed a new boarding pass and was told it was because the monks cant sit by women.
She wasn't hoisted out of a seat.
I'm starting a petition to get everyone with a bald head wearing orange evicted from this country and sent back to Islam. Who's in??!!!!
Shit! I best burn my orange T-Shirt!! "
But will you sign the petition anyway? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"From what i've read she was just handed a new boarding pass and was told it was because the monks cant sit by women.
She wasn't hoisted out of a seat.
I'm starting a petition to get everyone with a bald head wearing orange evicted from this country and sent back to Islam. Who's in??!!!!
Shit! I best burn my orange T-Shirt!!
But will you sign the petition anyway? "
Let me burn my orange T-Shirt first |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"It makes me laugh how most bigots always have a friend or family member that is black etc..
Why are you wasting your energy on being annoyed about things that didn't happen to you?
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bigot I have pakistani Jamaican all sorts in my family I'm not bigoted I do believe however that when in Rome do as the Romans do if your catching a flight in a western country chances are your going to be sat next to a female passenger. Would you go to Pakistan for instance and walk around in a mini skirt and high heels I seriously doubt it you would respect the beliefs of the country your in so why should our culture and beliefs be any different |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Just read the story that is on most mainstream news sites. I would think that when people book flights they should expect that women will be on them too, and explain before booking that they aren't allowed near them. If the airline can't guarantee an appropriate seat they should go elsewhere. It would be the same for a woman not being allowed near a man, he should not be asked to move for her. I would be more than happy to move seats into something similar or better, for whatever reason, but it would be nice to be asked, not told. |
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"Airlines often move people to fit everyone in.
I dare say some opportunist hater has twisted this story.
She wasn't moved. They just changed her seat number before she boarded.
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Yeah...but you can't take offense at that! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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When you book tickets you don't always get allocated a seat until you book in. You could end up next to anyone; they rejigged the seats so as not to cause any problems. It's people management. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Airlines often move people to fit everyone in.
I dare say some opportunist hater has twisted this story.
She wasn't moved. They just changed her seat number before she boarded.
Yeah...but you can't take offense at that!"
The airline worker needn't have told her why she was moved. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I do blame the press and politicians for the social divide and there is good and bad in all religions things do get twisted to stoke up the racial tension but I am a firm believer that if you go to a foreign country you respect the beliefs of that country at all times its no different here than any other place. I'm not a religious person I don't want Islam shoved in my face the same as I don't want Christianity shoved in my face. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"My dad was upgraded to first class on a long haul flight by a Muslim flight attendant because he is very elderly...shocking ain't it someone call the papers."
was he sat by a nun?
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Story on RT news has annoyed me a woman was forced to move seats on an American airlines flight because two pakistani monks refused to sit by a her because they are not allowed to be near or converse with females WTF. How do they get on in every day life in America then I'm sick and tired of this bollocks pandering to peoples beliefs when they are not even in their own country it will soon be time to say happy holidays instead of happy Christmas just incase you offend someone. Before anyone calls me racist I have pakistani niecees and nephews it just makes me angry that we are forced to change our ways so as not to offend others but they don't have to change so as not to offend us bollocks and they wonder why there is a massive social divide "
I thought monks were peaceful people? |
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"My dad was upgraded to first class on a long haul flight by a Muslim flight attendant because he is very elderly...shocking ain't it someone call the papers.was he sat by a nun?"
He wasn't on board the plane when it happened. I was illustrating that people are moved around in aircraft seating plans for lots of reasons very occasionally to accommodate someone's religious beliefs however like so many things it's only ever reported if it suits someone's (usually negative) agenda. |
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Pretty bloody obvious if you actually read about it ( even RT , which is hardly a reliable news source).
They would have been Buddhist monks; ( orange robes.)
Possibly Thai Buddhist, who have stricter rules about interaction with women.
Because of their extreme celibacy rules; they may not touch women, or even receive gifts from women directly; they may only speak with women if they are accompanied by another monk; indeed; they always travel in pairs as they may not communicate with non- monks unless they have a companion.
The reality of the story is that the monks asked if they could be allocated seats on their own; if possible;
The airline was able to do this by changing this woman's seat ( note: before she boarded).
No harm was done, except by a bigoted idiot of s woman who chose to turn it into a racially/ ethnically charged issue. |
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"It makes me laugh how most bigots always have a friend or family member that is black etc..
Why are you wasting your energy on being annoyed about things that didn't happen to you?
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The problem here is "Pakistani". Ignorance is bliss!
If everyone understood Islam and Pakistan are two different things they wouldn't automatically make the connection.
Having someone in the family or extended family, friends who's different race, religion, colour and gender does NOT automatically make you not a racist.
Ask yourself when you look at someone do you see their colour?
How do you refer to someone as white, black, paki, Asian, Indian, Arab, osama....... if so are you truly not racist???
Next time you want something clarified go to your local Indian and ask an EDUCATED person to tell you. They will be happy to talk to you rather than reading all the news and getting your little mind twisted and becoming a bigger bigot!!!
Or you can stay in your little box thinking your not a racist....
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"It makes me laugh how most bigots always have a friend or family member that is black etc..
Why are you wasting your energy on being annoyed about things that didn't happen to you?
The problem here is "Pakistani". Ignorance is bliss!
If everyone understood Islam and Pakistan are two different things they wouldn't automatically make the connection.
Having someone in the family or extended family, friends who's different race, religion, colour and gender does NOT automatically make you not a racist.
Ask yourself when you look at someone do you see their colour?
How do you refer to someone as white, black, paki, Asian, Indian, Arab, osama....... if so are you truly not racist???
Next time you want something clarified go to your local Indian and ask an EDUCATED person to tell you. They will be happy to talk to you rather than reading all the news and getting your little mind twisted and becoming a bigger bigot!!!
Or you can stay in your little box thinking your not a racist....
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I'd missed this sad excuse for a thread but, well said, that man.
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"Story on RT news has annoyed me a woman was forced to move seats on an American airlines flight because two pakistani monks refused to sit by a her because they are not allowed to be near or converse with females WTF. How do they get on in every day life in America then I'm sick and tired of this bollocks pandering to peoples beliefs when they are not even in their own country it will soon be time to say happy holidays instead of happy Christmas just incase you offend someone. Before anyone calls me racist I have pakistani niecees and nephews it just makes me angry that we are forced to change our ways so as not to offend others but they don't have to change so as not to offend us bollocks and they wonder why there is a massive social divide "
Dude the news is on only for us to hate eachother, they need a story to sell, so let's not be so delusional yeah, ps i read a news story once that said strict muslim rapes for women, good the guy, and tell me if he looks like a strict Muslim psht! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'd missed this sad excuse for a thread but, well said, that man.
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Too right.
You only have to read the idiotic posts to see that people think
Pakistani=Islam
Or monks=Islam
Or Buddhism=Islam
Or Islam=terrorism
People make out they're so clever but can't see how stupid they look when they make the blind leap from Pakistani to Islam
Pakistan is a big country, it encompasses most faiths.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It makes me laugh how most bigots always have a friend or family member that is black etc..
Why are you wasting your energy on being annoyed about things that didn't happen to you?
The problem here is "Pakistani". Ignorance is bliss!
If everyone understood Islam and Pakistan are two different things they wouldn't automatically make the connection.
Having someone in the family or extended family, friends who's different race, religion, colour and gender does NOT automatically make you not a racist.
Ask yourself when you look at someone do you see their colour?
How do you refer to someone as white, black, paki, Asian, Indian, Arab, osama....... if so are you truly not racist???
Next time you want something clarified go to your local Indian and ask an EDUCATED person to tell you. They will be happy to talk to you rather than reading all the news and getting your little mind twisted and becoming a bigger bigot!!!
Or you can stay in your little box thinking your not a racist....
I'd missed this sad excuse for a thread but, well said, that man.
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Two Buddhist monks reported to have asked to change seats by an extremely unreliable news source, held up as an example of how Muslims don't "fit" in Western Culture.
It's quite beautiful nonsense. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I've had male friends moved on a plane (in the Middle East) because they were seated next to Muslim women who complained.
Why the check-in agent can't sort it out is a mystery. |
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"I wouldn't have gave a shit if the god almighty was asking me to move.....I've paid for my seat now fuck off x"
but you pay for A seat, not a specific seat....on most flights you dont know what seat you get until you check in and on others you have no allocated seat, its just a free for all |
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"Pretty bloody obvious if you actually read about it ( even RT , which is hardly a reliable news source).
They would have been Buddhist monks; ( orange robes.)
Possibly Thai Buddhist, who have stricter rules about interaction with women.
Because of their extreme celibacy rules; they may not touch women, or even receive gifts from women directly; they may only speak with women if they are accompanied by another monk; indeed; they always travel in pairs as they may not communicate with non- monks unless they have a companion.
The reality of the story is that the monks asked if they could be allocated seats on their own; if possible;
The airline was able to do this by changing this woman's seat ( note: before she boarded).
No harm was done, except by a bigoted idiot of s woman who chose to turn it into a racially/ ethnically charged issue."
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the more i read this story the more i wonder where the story is....she wrote to the airline asking them to change their policy on omens rights....how were her rights infringed exactly??
do women have the right to sit next to Pakistani Monks if they so wish?
Did they say she couldn't fly because of this?
Or were they able to facilitate the request of 2 passengers with little disruption and enabled everyone to travel on the flight they wanted? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Pretty bloody obvious if you actually read about it ( even RT , which is hardly a reliable news source).
They would have been Buddhist monks; ( orange robes.)
Possibly Thai Buddhist, who have stricter rules about interaction with women.
Because of their extreme celibacy rules; they may not touch women, or even receive gifts from women directly; they may only speak with women if they are accompanied by another monk; indeed; they always travel in pairs as they may not communicate with non- monks unless they have a companion.
The reality of the story is that the monks asked if they could be allocated seats on their own; if possible;
The airline was able to do this by changing this woman's seat ( note: before she boarded).
No harm was done, except by a bigoted idiot of s woman who chose to turn it into a racially/ ethnically charged issue."
I think that about sums it up
Had they asked her to move because they needed two seats together for a mother and young child I bet it wouldnt have made news
So long as the airline didn't split me up with who I was traveling with it wouldnt have bothered me at all, I quite like monks they are peaceful people and I respect they lifestyle, I'm not an expert of the subject but I know enough to have not taken the fact they didn't want to sit my me personal
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By (user no longer on site)
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"the more i read this story the more i wonder where the story is....she wrote to the airline asking them to change their policy on omens rights....how were her rights infringed exactly??
do women have the right to sit next to Pakistani Monks if they so wish?
Did they say she couldn't fly because of this?
Or were they able to facilitate the request of 2 passengers with little disruption and enabled everyone to travel on the flight they wanted?"
Let be honest she's after money
She is seeing this as either a way to get a pay out from the airline or to sell her story to any saddo that wants to make news out of it |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
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"I wouldn't have moved oout of principle.....unless they put me first class lol
Soon it'll be planes just for men!!
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Maybe there will be separate planes for swingers too; now that is a thought
Autopilots will be all the rage in cockpit |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I'd missed this sad excuse for a thread but, well said, that man.
Too right.
You only have to read the idiotic posts to see that people think
Pakistani=Islam
Or monks=Islam
Or Buddhism=Islam
Or Islam=terrorism
People make out they're so clever but can't see how stupid they look when they make the blind leap from Pakistani to Islam
Pakistan is a big country, it encompasses most faiths.
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Yup, a lot of the early posters look pretty stupid right now.
By the way, most airlines would ask a man to move if he happened to sit next to a girl under 16. But let's not let that get in the way of islamaphobia |
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"I wouldn't have moved oout of principle.....unless they put me first class lol
Soon it'll be planes just for men!! Basically going back to segregation except it will be men and women not whites and blacks.....so sad that we're actually going backwards, equality is now going backwards "
hasn't Corbyn suggested this for trains? |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
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"the more i read this story the more i wonder where the story is....she wrote to the airline asking them to change their policy on omens rights....how were her rights infringed exactly??
do women have the right to sit next to Pakistani Monks if they so wish?
Did they say she couldn't fly because of this?
Or were they able to facilitate the request of 2 passengers with little disruption and enabled everyone to travel on the flight they wanted?
Let be honest she's after money
She is seeing this as either a way to get a pay out from the airline or to sell her story to any saddo that wants to make news out of it "
Maybe during seat selection she had spent some time deciding where to sit. I know, I do; window seat, near to the toilets but not too near, etc
I'd be pretty peeved if on a Lufthansa flight, I was asked to move because of some Islamic holy men
If they are that holy, they can perch themselves on the wing and pray they don't plummet all the 10,000 meters down to planet Earth
But why are they boarding big metal birds in the first place? Aren't these the creation of the Devil and thought of by and constructed by the Western infidels? |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
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"Airlines often move people to fit everyone in.
I dare say some opportunist hater has twisted this story.
She wasn't moved. They just changed her seat number before she boarded.
Oh right,so me imagining she's been dragged from her seat screaming was wrong then...
Dunno. Intelligence is thin on the ground on this one.
We won't know the truth truth until the film is out.
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Actually, not until the sequel is out; that is when one learns the true identify of the father |
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There was some problems with a flight to Israel with very orthodox jewish male being unhappy sitting next to a woman. That story was a few months ago and apparently the airline confirmed it was becoming a more frequent issue for cabin crews. Guess the airlines could state on the tickets that women have been allowed to fly for some time now rather than having to take a cruise liner |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
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"but one of the 250+ rules Buddhist monks should adhere to is to not touch women.
Well that's me never becoming a monk!"
But that is because you are not a single guy on FabS. Ask them; they are almost there anyway  |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
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"I wouldn't have gave a shit if the god almighty was asking me to move.....I've paid for my seat now fuck off x
but you pay for A seat, not a specific seat....on most flights you dont know what seat you get until you check in and on others you have no allocated seat, its just a free for all"
That is not true. On a lot of BA long-haul flights, one can choose certain seats and but has to pay extra for these
Infact, being able to choose seats early enough costs extra in the first place |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
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"From what i've read she was just handed a new boarding pass and was told it was because the monks cant sit by women.
She wasn't hoisted out of a seat.
I'm starting a petition to get everyone with a bald head wearing orange evicted from this country and sent back to Islam. Who's in??!!!! "
can the destination be changed to California?
[quick, get an Orange T-shirt before they run out and shave your head] |
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"Story on RT news has annoyed me a woman was forced to move seats on an American airlines flight because two pakistani monks refused to sit by a her because they are not allowed to be near or converse with females WTF. How do they get on in every day life in America then I'm sick and tired of this bollocks pandering to peoples beliefs when they are not even in their own country it will soon be time to say happy holidays instead of happy Christmas just incase you offend someone. Before anyone calls me racist I have pakistani niecees and nephews it just makes me angry that we are forced to change our ways so as not to offend others but they don't have to change so as not to offend us bollocks and they wonder why there is a massive social divide
I thought monks were peaceful people? "
Well there's monks and there's cunty monks. |
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"There was some problems with a flight to Israel with very orthodox jewish male being unhappy sitting next to a woman. That story was a few months ago and apparently the airline confirmed it was becoming a more frequent issue for cabin crews. Guess the airlines could state on the tickets that women have been allowed to fly for some time now rather than having to take a cruise liner "
How about when men are asked to move so they don't sit next to girls under 16?
Should the airlines state on the tickets that 99% of men are not neanderthal rapists? |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
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"There was some problems with a flight to Israel with very orthodox jewish male being unhappy sitting next to a woman. That story was a few months ago and apparently the airline confirmed it was becoming a more frequent issue for cabin crews. Guess the airlines could state on the tickets that women have been allowed to fly for some time now rather than having to take a cruise liner
How about when men are asked to move so they don't sit next to girls under 16?
Should the airlines state on the tickets that 99% of men are not neanderthal rapists? "
When did this happen? Did the men have to comply?
What happened if they refused to move because they had paid extra for the seat? Did the airline staff instead give the choice to the teenager to move elsewhere on the aircraft? |
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"There was some problems with a flight to Israel with very orthodox jewish male being unhappy sitting next to a woman. That story was a few months ago and apparently the airline confirmed it was becoming a more frequent issue for cabin crews. Guess the airlines could state on the tickets that women have been allowed to fly for some time now rather than having to take a cruise liner
How about when men are asked to move so they don't sit next to girls under 16?
Should the airlines state on the tickets that 99% of men are not neanderthal rapists?
When did this happen? Did the men have to comply?
What happened if they refused to move because they had paid extra for the seat? Did the airline staff instead give the choice to the teenager to move elsewhere on the aircraft?"
It's a common airline policy. I've been given forum bans for posting links before but you can Google "man seated next to unaccompanied minors forced to change seats". |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Let us change the perspective.
The 'men' needed to change their seats because they are monks.
There sorted. The power of language. "
Do girls under 16 also need to change their seats because they sat next to a man? |
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"Let us change the perspective.
The 'men' needed to change their seats because they are monks.
There sorted. The power of language.
Do girls under 16 also need to change their seats because they sat next to a man? "
When did she get on the plane ? |
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"I wouldn't have gave a shit if the god almighty was asking me to move.....I've paid for my seat now fuck off x
but you pay for A seat, not a specific seat....on most flights you dont know what seat you get until you check in and on others you have no allocated seat, its just a free for all
That is not true. On a lot of BA long-haul flights, one can choose certain seats and but has to pay extra for these
Infact, being able to choose seats early enough costs extra in the first place"
well clearly i am a budget line kinda gal lol but i am sure that somewhere in the blurb it will state that you are only paying for a seat and in some circumstances they will not be able to fulfill your request but lets face it...the likelihood of it happening is extremely low.
If it did happen all they would need to do is refund the extra charge you paid for your chosen seat and maybe bung a small amount of compensation on there for your troubles. |
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"Let us change the perspective.
The 'men' needed to change their seats because they are monks.
There sorted. The power of language. "
from what i have read they did request to change their seats and so they were the ones moving however the airline felt the simplest way to accommodate them was to ask 1 person to move rather than a number of people. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Let us change the perspective.
The 'men' needed to change their seats because they are monks.
There sorted. The power of language.
Do girls under 16 also need to change their seats because they sat next to a man?
When did she get on the plane ?"
Which one. It's an airline policy, not a single incident. |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
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"I wouldn't have gave a shit if the god almighty was asking me to move.....I've paid for my seat now fuck off x
but you pay for A seat, not a specific seat....on most flights you dont know what seat you get until you check in and on others you have no allocated seat, its just a free for all
That is not true. On a lot of BA long-haul flights, one can choose certain seats and but has to pay extra for these
Infact, being able to choose seats early enough costs extra in the first place
well clearly i am a budget line kinda gal lol but i am sure that somewhere in the blurb it will state that you are only paying for a seat and in some circumstances they will not be able to fulfill your request but lets face it...the likelihood of it happening is extremely low.
If it did happen all they would need to do is refund the extra charge you paid for your chosen seat and maybe bung a small amount of compensation on there for your troubles."
They will need to also take my extra luggage for free since part of the 'perks' of the 'special' seat is a higher luggage allowance
But you could be right. It could be in the blurb that they have the right to move people
This has happened to me. I had selected a window seat, the other woman the aisle seat. We had both boarded early. Then came an elderly guy with a beard; dunno if he was Islamic or something different
After takeoff, he was moved somewhere else and another woman took the seat between us. I am certain he was moved at his request as neither the other woman nor I give two hoots as to who was occupying the middle seat |
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"I wouldn't have gave a shit if the god almighty was asking me to move.....I've paid for my seat now fuck off x
but you pay for A seat, not a specific seat....on most flights you dont know what seat you get until you check in and on others you have no allocated seat, its just a free for all
That is not true. On a lot of BA long-haul flights, one can choose certain seats and but has to pay extra for these
Infact, being able to choose seats early enough costs extra in the first place
well clearly i am a budget line kinda gal lol but i am sure that somewhere in the blurb it will state that you are only paying for a seat and in some circumstances they will not be able to fulfill your request but lets face it...the likelihood of it happening is extremely low.
If it did happen all they would need to do is refund the extra charge you paid for your chosen seat and maybe bung a small amount of compensation on there for your troubles.
They will need to also take my extra luggage for free since part of the 'perks' of the 'special' seat is a higher luggage allowance
But you could be right. It could be in the blurb that they have the right to move people
This has happened to me. I had selected a window seat, the other woman the aisle seat. We had both boarded early. Then came an elderly guy with a beard; dunno if he was Islamic or something different
After takeoff, he was moved somewhere else and another woman took the seat between us. I am certain he was moved at his request as neither the other woman nor I give two hoots as to who was occupying the middle seat"
You should have told him you were on fab, he would have moved quicker |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
Wembley |
"There was some problems with a flight to Israel with very orthodox jewish male being unhappy sitting next to a woman. That story was a few months ago and apparently the airline confirmed it was becoming a more frequent issue for cabin crews. Guess the airlines could state on the tickets that women have been allowed to fly for some time now rather than having to take a cruise liner
How about when men are asked to move so they don't sit next to girls under 16?
Should the airlines state on the tickets that 99% of men are not neanderthal rapists?
When did this happen? Did the men have to comply?
What happened if they refused to move because they had paid extra for the seat? Did the airline staff instead give the choice to the teenager to move elsewhere on the aircraft?
It's a common airline policy. I've been given forum bans for posting links before but you can Google "man seated next to unaccompanied minors forced to change seats". "
I've been given forum bans too but it wasn't for quoting links 
But I found the news story. So it was a story which was published in the news paper just like with the story of these bald guys (bearded or not)
By the way, the story goes on to say the 'airline in question' [don't wanna get a ban] ended its policy in August 2010 following successful legal action undertaken by Mirko Fischer |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
Wembley |
"I wouldn't have gave a shit if the god almighty was asking me to move.....I've paid for my seat now fuck off x
but you pay for A seat, not a specific seat....on most flights you dont know what seat you get until you check in and on others you have no allocated seat, its just a free for all
That is not true. On a lot of BA long-haul flights, one can choose certain seats and but has to pay extra for these
Infact, being able to choose seats early enough costs extra in the first place
well clearly i am a budget line kinda gal lol but i am sure that somewhere in the blurb it will state that you are only paying for a seat and in some circumstances they will not be able to fulfill your request but lets face it...the likelihood of it happening is extremely low.
If it did happen all they would need to do is refund the extra charge you paid for your chosen seat and maybe bung a small amount of compensation on there for your troubles.
They will need to also take my extra luggage for free since part of the 'perks' of the 'special' seat is a higher luggage allowance
But you could be right. It could be in the blurb that they have the right to move people
This has happened to me. I had selected a window seat, the other woman the aisle seat. We had both boarded early. Then came an elderly guy with a beard; dunno if he was Islamic or something different
After takeoff, he was moved somewhere else and another woman took the seat between us. I am certain he was moved at his request as neither the other woman nor I give two hoots as to who was occupying the middle seat
You should have told him you were on fab, he would have moved quicker "
Holy men are the most perverted; he would have ripped off my panties (and, yes, I was wearing panties; I always do on flights) with his teeth |
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"There was some problems with a flight to Israel with very orthodox jewish male being unhappy sitting next to a woman. That story was a few months ago and apparently the airline confirmed it was becoming a more frequent issue for cabin crews. Guess the airlines could state on the tickets that women have been allowed to fly for some time now rather than having to take a cruise liner
How about when men are asked to move so they don't sit next to girls under 16?
Should the airlines state on the tickets that 99% of men are not neanderthal rapists?
When did this happen? Did the men have to comply?
What happened if they refused to move because they had paid extra for the seat? Did the airline staff instead give the choice to the teenager to move elsewhere on the aircraft?
It's a common airline policy. I've been given forum bans for posting links before but you can Google "man seated next to unaccompanied minors forced to change seats".
I've been given forum bans too but it wasn't for quoting links
But I found the news story. So it was a story which was published in the news paper just like with the story of these bald guys (bearded or not)
By the way, the story goes on to say the 'airline in question' [don't wanna get a ban] ended its policy in August 2010 following successful legal action undertaken by Mirko Fischer"
The article I found was from 2012 with an Australian airline and I read a more recent one this year with an American Airline. It said that most of them have that policy too. |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
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It's a common airline policy. I've been given forum bans for posting links before but you can Google "man seated next to unaccompanied minors forced to change seats".
I've been given forum bans too but it wasn't for quoting links
But I found the news story. So it was a story which was published in the news paper just like with the story of these bald guys (bearded or not)
By the way, the story goes on to say the 'airline in question' [don't wanna get a ban] ended its policy in August 2010 following successful legal action undertaken by Mirko Fischer
The article I found was from 2012 with an Australian airline and I read a more recent one this year with an American Airline. It said that most of them have that policy too. "
The one I read is on Wikipedia and it was four airlines; British Airways, Qantas, Air New Zealand and Virgin Australia
BA scrapped their policy in August 2010
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By *angzMan
over a year ago
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"Because Islam is incompatible with western culture. There I've said it."
Lol
Someone needs to go back to school and learn the difference between Islam and Buddhism. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The worst thing about this story is that it's brought some of the crazies out of their politics forum cave
Get thee behind me, politics forum crazies "
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"The worst thing about this story is that it's brought some of the crazies out of their politics forum cave
Get thee behind me, politics forum crazies
*slowly retreats* "
Haha.
You're ok because you are sexy politics forum crazies (and talking sense, on this thread at least)  |
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"The worst thing about this story is that it's brought some of the crazies out of their politics forum cave
Get thee behind me, politics forum crazies
*slowly retreats*
Haha.
You're ok because you are sexy politics forum crazies (and talking sense, on this thread at least) "
Ah you're just saying that because you haven't seen my face picture. We're like beauty and the beast I tell thee. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'd have had them shot!...... For flying 
Speaking of politics forum crazies..."
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Viola ....
Only in your world does two monks moving a woman deem to be a bigger problem than 3 billon people a year flying on fossil fuels!!! Your right though.... I'm obviously bonkers |
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"The worst thing about this story is that it's brought some of the crazies out of their politics forum cave
Get thee behind me, politics forum crazies "
The best way is to occasionally pop into the Politics Forum and throw them a juicy thread or two to get their teeth into and keep them busy.
Try "If the poster above you knocked on your door canvassing, would it be for Labour, Ukip or the Monster Raving Looney Party?"
They love it really
Mr ddc |
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"The worst thing about this story is that it's brought some of the crazies out of their politics forum cave
Get thee behind me, politics forum crazies
The best way is to occasionally pop into the Politics Forum and throw them a juicy thread or two to get their teeth into and keep them busy.
Try "If the poster above you knocked on your door canvassing, would it be for Labour, Ukip or the Monster Raving Looney Party?"
They love it really
Mr ddc"
You know me too well |
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"The worst thing about this story is that it's brought some of the crazies out of their politics forum cave
Get thee behind me, politics forum crazies
The best way is to occasionally pop into the Politics Forum and throw them a juicy thread or two to get their teeth into and keep them busy.
Try "If the poster above you knocked on your door canvassing, would it be for Labour, Ukip or the Monster Raving Looney Party?"
They love it really
Mr ddc"
Blimey.
I just had a peek in and it's gotten even worse.
Lock the gates!! |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
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"I'd have had them shot!...... For flying
Speaking of politics forum crazies....
Viola ....
Only in your world does two monks moving a woman deem to be a bigger problem than 3 billon people a year flying on fossil fuels!!! Your right though.... I'm obviously bonkers "
You are; for taking the bus; it too runs on fossil fuel |
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"The worst thing about this story is that it's brought some of the crazies out of their politics forum cave
Get thee behind me, politics forum crazies
The best way is to occasionally pop into the Politics Forum and throw them a juicy thread or two to get their teeth into and keep them busy.
Try "If the poster above you knocked on your door canvassing, would it be for Labour, Ukip or the Monster Raving Looney Party?"
They love it really
Mr ddc
Blimey.
I just had a peek in and it's gotten even worse.
Lock the gates!!"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Airlines often move people to fit everyone in.
I dare say some opportunist hater has twisted this story.
She wasn't moved. They just changed her seat number before she boarded.
Yeah...but you can't take offense at that!"
We are letting the media distract us from ACTUAL news that affects us by biting at these kinds of stories aimed at causing hate, tension and promoting xenophobia |
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"Airlines often move people to fit everyone in.
I dare say some opportunist hater has twisted this story.
She wasn't moved. They just changed her seat number before she boarded.
Yeah...but you can't take offense at that!
We are letting the media distract us from ACTUAL news that affects us by biting at these kinds of stories aimed at causing hate, tension and promoting xenophobia "
Who is 'we'!? I'm bloody not. Some of the intellectually challenged are. |
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"Airlines often move people to fit everyone in.
I dare say some opportunist hater has twisted this story.
She wasn't moved. They just changed her seat number before she boarded.
Yeah...but you can't take offense at that!
We are letting the media distract us from ACTUAL news that affects us by biting at these kinds of stories aimed at causing hate, tension and promoting xenophobia
Who is 'we'!? I'm bloody not. Some of the intellectually challenged are. "
Then don't take offence where there is none intended |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
Wembley |
"Airlines often move people to fit everyone in.
I dare say some opportunist hater has twisted this story.
She wasn't moved. They just changed her seat number before she boarded.
Yeah...but you can't take offense at that!
We are letting the media distract us from ACTUAL news that affects us by biting at these kinds of stories aimed at causing hate, tension and promoting xenophobia
Who is 'we'!? I'm bloody not. Some of the intellectually challenged are. "
That last comment was very unlike yourself. Maybe lots of people here thought the very same about you but did not put it in a comment; very patronising  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Airlines often move people to fit everyone in.
I dare say some opportunist hater has twisted this story.
She wasn't moved. They just changed her seat number before she boarded.
Yeah...but you can't take offense at that!
We are letting the media distract us from ACTUAL news that affects us by biting at these kinds of stories aimed at causing hate, tension and promoting xenophobia
Who is 'we'!? I'm bloody not. Some of the intellectually challenged are.
That last comment was very unlike yourself. Maybe lots of people here thought the very same about you but did not put it in a comment; very patronising "
As someone in a marriage that is a mixture of races and cultures, many of the comments show a depressing attitude towards minorities. In my opinion.
And who ever heard of Muslim Monks |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
Wembley |
"Airlines often move people to fit everyone in.
I dare say some opportunist hater has twisted this story.
She wasn't moved. They just changed her seat number before she boarded.
Yeah...but you can't take offense at that!
We are letting the media distract us from ACTUAL news that affects us by biting at these kinds of stories aimed at causing hate, tension and promoting xenophobia
Who is 'we'!? I'm bloody not. Some of the intellectually challenged are.
That last comment was very unlike yourself. Maybe lots of people here thought the very same about you but did not put it in a comment; very patronising
As someone in a marriage that is a mixture of races and cultures, many of the comments show a depressing attitude towards minorities. In my opinion.
And who ever heard of Muslim Monks "
The story I read was about Pakistani Monks; I guess these are Monks from Pakistan
The minorities should not get prefential treatment and that was the point. The woman who was moved has every right to be unhappy with United Airlines
What if in an emergency situtation a stewardess had to instruct those Monks to follow her orders. Could they or should they then ignore her too because of whatever their beliefs are
By all means, follow your culture and beliefs in your own country. But if somebody voluntarily wants to live in our society then they should conform to our cultural and beliefs. If that is not acceptable to them then they can leave and go back
I would be told the very same if I were in Pakistan wearing a khaki marl, shorts and sneakers |
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"Airlines often move people to fit everyone in.
I dare say some opportunist hater has twisted this story.
She wasn't moved. They just changed her seat number before she boarded.
Yeah...but you can't take offense at that!
We are letting the media distract us from ACTUAL news that affects us by biting at these kinds of stories aimed at causing hate, tension and promoting xenophobia
Who is 'we'!? I'm bloody not. Some of the intellectually challenged are.
That last comment was very unlike yourself. Maybe lots of people here thought the very same about you but did not put it in a comment; very patronising
As someone in a marriage that is a mixture of races and cultures, many of the comments show a depressing attitude towards minorities. In my opinion.
And who ever heard of Muslim Monks
The story I read was about Pakistani Monks; I guess these are Monks from Pakistan
The minorities should not get prefential treatment and that was the point. The woman who was moved has every right to be unhappy with United Airlines
What if in an emergency situtation a stewardess had to instruct those Monks to follow her orders. Could they or should they then ignore her too because of whatever their beliefs are
By all means, follow your culture and beliefs in your own country. But if somebody voluntarily wants to live in our society then they should conform to our cultural and beliefs. If that is not acceptable to them then they can leave and go back
I would be told the very same if I were in Pakistan wearing a khaki marl, shorts and sneakers"
That's your opinion and I agree with you on a lot of things but not this.
I think you rush to a simple conclusion. Matters involving people are never so black and white. The entire reason our country is one of the richest in the world is because of a history of compromises, privileges and inclusive values. The most uniform culture in the world is north Korea, let's agree that doesn't work so well.
You can say that everyone who doesn't like it should go back, but I very much doubt you'd really like the full consequences of actually implementing that approach. |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
Wembley |
"Airlines often move people to fit everyone in.
I dare say some opportunist hater has twisted this story.
She wasn't moved. They just changed her seat number before she boarded.
Yeah...but you can't take offense at that!
We are letting the media distract us from ACTUAL news that affects us by biting at these kinds of stories aimed at causing hate, tension and promoting xenophobia
Who is 'we'!? I'm bloody not. Some of the intellectually challenged are.
That last comment was very unlike yourself. Maybe lots of people here thought the very same about you but did not put it in a comment; very patronising
As someone in a marriage that is a mixture of races and cultures, many of the comments show a depressing attitude towards minorities. In my opinion.
And who ever heard of Muslim Monks
The story I read was about Pakistani Monks; I guess these are Monks from Pakistan
The minorities should not get prefential treatment and that was the point. The woman who was moved has every right to be unhappy with United Airlines
What if in an emergency situtation a stewardess had to instruct those Monks to follow her orders. Could they or should they then ignore her too because of whatever their beliefs are
By all means, follow your culture and beliefs in your own country. But if somebody voluntarily wants to live in our society then they should conform to our cultural and beliefs. If that is not acceptable to them then they can leave and go back
I would be told the very same if I were in Pakistan wearing a khaki marl, shorts and sneakers
That's your opinion and I agree with you on a lot of things but not this.
I think you rush to a simple conclusion. Matters involving people are never so black and white. The entire reason our country is one of the richest in the world is because of a history of compromises, privileges and inclusive values. The most uniform culture in the world is north Korea, let's agree that doesn't work so well.
You can say that everyone who doesn't like it should go back, but I very much doubt you'd really like the full consequences of actually implementing that approach. "
Actually, I do and probably more than you do. With your Brexit in motion, I am planning to return to Germany much, much sooner than I had originally intended to
Minority wishes should never, ever trump our laws and values unless we decide to incorporate these. The conclusion is simple because there is no reason to complicate it and claim intellectual superiority |
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"Airlines often move people to fit everyone in.
I dare say some opportunist hater has twisted this story.
She wasn't moved. They just changed her seat number before she boarded.
Yeah...but you can't take offense at that!
We are letting the media distract us from ACTUAL news that affects us by biting at these kinds of stories aimed at causing hate, tension and promoting xenophobia
Who is 'we'!? I'm bloody not. Some of the intellectually challenged are.
That last comment was very unlike yourself. Maybe lots of people here thought the very same about you but did not put it in a comment; very patronising
As someone in a marriage that is a mixture of races and cultures, many of the comments show a depressing attitude towards minorities. In my opinion.
And who ever heard of Muslim Monks
The story I read was about Pakistani Monks; I guess these are Monks from Pakistan
The minorities should not get prefential treatment and that was the point. The woman who was moved has every right to be unhappy with United Airlines
What if in an emergency situtation a stewardess had to instruct those Monks to follow her orders. Could they or should they then ignore her too because of whatever their beliefs are
By all means, follow your culture and beliefs in your own country. But if somebody voluntarily wants to live in our society then they should conform to our cultural and beliefs. If that is not acceptable to them then they can leave and go back
I would be told the very same if I were in Pakistan wearing a khaki marl, shorts and sneakers"
Mixed couple it's certain from the posts above there is no compulsion.
Was going to write more but what's the point.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Minority wishes should never, ever trump our laws and values unless we decide to incorporate these. The conclusion is simple because there is no reason to complicate it and claim intellectual superiority"
I would argue that our laws and values were created by a series of compromises between minority and majority interests and we are better for it. So I would decline the idea that it's as simple as one trumping the other. But we'd have to start another thread if I was to prove that case... |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
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Minority wishes should never, ever trump our laws and values unless we decide to incorporate these. The conclusion is simple because there is no reason to complicate it and claim intellectual superiority
I would argue that our laws and values were created by a series of compromises between minority and majority interests and we are better for it. So I would decline the idea that it's as simple as one trumping the other. But we'd have to start another thread if I was to prove that case... "
I did say, "minority wishes should never, ever trump our laws and values unless we decide to incorporate these"
In the case of this woman, these norms were breached by United Airlines staff. If you care to read the entire story (and if the story has been reported correctly), then this woman was not given any choice on her pre-booked seat allocation
Whether 3 billion people flying on fossil fuel is a bigger problem or not, at that point at check-in, this woman felt discriminated by United Airlines because she is a woman
Whilst I generally respect your views (because they are normally level-headed) I cannot on this occasion where my rights could be trumped by foreigners in my space. These Monks, whether from Pakistan or elsewhere, had no such rights. And they were from Pakistan, not from anywhere else
Re: North Korea; I agree. Not a model to aspire to
PS. I suspect that you might laugh your head off at this; despite the fact that I am on this site and do the things I do, I am deeply religious. However, I do not expect others of a different religion to accommodate my wishes and needs when travelling to or through their countries |
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Minority wishes should never, ever trump our laws and values unless we decide to incorporate these. The conclusion is simple because there is no reason to complicate it and claim intellectual superiority
I would argue that our laws and values were created by a series of compromises between minority and majority interests and we are better for it. So I would decline the idea that it's as simple as one trumping the other. But we'd have to start another thread if I was to prove that case...
I did say, "minority wishes should never, ever trump our laws and values unless we decide to incorporate these"
In the case of this woman, these norms were breached by United Airlines staff. If you care to read the entire story (and if the story has been reported correctly), then this woman was not given any choice on her pre-booked seat allocation
Whether 3 billion people flying on fossil fuel is a bigger problem or not, at that point at check-in, this woman felt discriminated by United Airlines because she is a woman
Whilst I generally respect your views (because they are normally level-headed) I cannot on this occasion where my rights could be trumped by foreigners in my space. These Monks, whether from Pakistan or elsewhere, had no such rights. And they were from Pakistan, not from anywhere else
Re: North Korea; I agree. Not a model to aspire to
PS. I suspect that you might laugh your head off at this; despite the fact that I am on this site and do the things I do, I am deeply religious. However, I do not expect others of a different religion to accommodate my wishes and needs when travelling to or through their countries"
I'd love to PM you about some of this stuff so we don't hijack the thread. But you block non-site supporters.
No I wouldn't laugh at the latter, I know other people on the site that are too. |
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"I'd have had them shot!...... For flying
Speaking of politics forum crazies....
Viola ....
Only in your world does two monks moving a woman deem to be a bigger problem than 3 billon people a year flying on fossil fuels!!! Your right though.... I'm obviously bonkers
You are; for taking the bus; it too runs on fossil fuel "
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They don't have to! And I don't take buses |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
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"I'd have had them shot!...... For flying
Speaking of politics forum crazies....
Viola ....
Only in your world does two monks moving a woman deem to be a bigger problem than 3 billon people a year flying on fossil fuels!!! Your right though.... I'm obviously bonkers
You are; for taking the bus; it too runs on fossil fuel .
They don't have to! And I don't take buses"
Lucky you; us mere mortals have to
The primary source of energy is still generated using fossil fuel; unless it is nuclear or sustainable (which is barely 20%) |
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Here's a possibility. Maybe the monks spoke to the check in person and said, due to our religion we are not suposed to speak to women. Would it be possible to sit us in a row of two or by a man, so we do not cause offence by not answering if a female starts a conversation?
I'm not saying that happened, but it is easy to see a biased fraction of a story and fill in the gaps unjustly.
That also assumes any of this even happened....
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"Here's a possibility. Maybe the monks spoke to the check in person and said, due to our religion we are not suposed to speak to women. Would it be possible to sit us in a row of two or by a man, so we do not cause offence by not answering if a female starts a conversation?
I'm not saying that happened, but it is easy to see a biased fraction of a story and fill in the gaps unjustly.
That also assumes any of this even happened....
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That is in fact, exactly what happened, the airline found it easier to change the seating for one person, rather than two . |
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"Here's a possibility. Maybe the monks spoke to the check in person and said, due to our religion we are not suposed to speak to women. Would it be possible to sit us in a row of two or by a man, so we do not cause offence by not answering if a female starts a conversation?
I'm not saying that happened, but it is easy to see a biased fraction of a story and fill in the gaps unjustly.
That also assumes any of this even happened....
That is in fact, exactly what happened, the airline found it easier to change the seating for one person, rather than two ."
I mean maybe the monks were perhaps trying to avoid offense, rather than being demanding. |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
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"Here's a possibility. Maybe the monks spoke to the check in person and said, due to our religion we are not suposed to speak to women. Would it be possible to sit us in a row of two or by a man, so we do not cause offence by not answering if a female starts a conversation?
I'm not saying that happened, but it is easy to see a biased fraction of a story and fill in the gaps unjustly.
That also assumes any of this even happened....
That is in fact, exactly what happened, the airline found it easier to change the seating for one person, rather than two .
I mean maybe the monks were perhaps trying to avoid offense, rather than being demanding."
They could have bought three seats under one name and that way the airline is obliged to seat them together. Just sayin' if it was so important to them. Why trample on someone else's rights? |
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"Here's a possibility. Maybe the monks spoke to the check in person and said, due to our religion we are not suposed to speak to women. Would it be possible to sit us in a row of two or by a man, so we do not cause offence by not answering if a female starts a conversation?
I'm not saying that happened, but it is easy to see a biased fraction of a story and fill in the gaps unjustly.
That also assumes any of this even happened....
That is in fact, exactly what happened, the airline found it easier to change the seating for one person, rather than two .
I mean maybe the monks were perhaps trying to avoid offense, rather than being demanding.
They could have bought three seats under one name and that way the airline is obliged to seat them together. Just sayin' if it was so important to them. Why trample on someone else's rights?"
Maybe, but we don't really know what actually happened.
If the story was truly how it has been reported I would tell them to f off.
But I doubt it really was.
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"I'd have had them shot!...... For flying
Speaking of politics forum crazies....
Viola ....
Only in your world does two monks moving a woman deem to be a bigger problem than 3 billon people a year flying on fossil fuels!!! Your right though.... I'm obviously bonkers
You are; for taking the bus; it too runs on fossil fuel .
They don't have to! And I don't take buses
Lucky you; us mere mortals have to
The primary source of energy is still generated using fossil fuel; unless it is nuclear or sustainable (which is barely 20%)"
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
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"Here's a possibility. Maybe the monks spoke to the check in person and said, due to our religion we are not suposed to speak to women. Would it be possible to sit us in a row of two or by a man, so we do not cause offence by not answering if a female starts a conversation?
I'm not saying that happened, but it is easy to see a biased fraction of a story and fill in the gaps unjustly.
That also assumes any of this even happened....
That is in fact, exactly what happened, the airline found it easier to change the seating for one person, rather than two .
I mean maybe the monks were perhaps trying to avoid offense, rather than being demanding.
They could have bought three seats under one name and that way the airline is obliged to seat them together. Just sayin' if it was so important to them. Why trample on someone else's rights?
Maybe, but we don't really know what actually happened.
If the story was truly how it has been reported I would tell them to f off.
But I doubt it really was.
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We can never know about this or any other story how much of a 'spin' the reporter or editor put on it. Short of being present at every incident, we just have to believe what is reported but perhaps with a pinch of salt
This may resurface again with United Airlines response. The woman has not asked for any compensation. However, she has asked for an apology to her and to every other woman who travelled on that aircraft with her |
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"Islam does not have monks
Pakistan is also home to a large Buddhist population, one of the worlds most peaceful religions but one of the 250+ rules Buddhist monks should adhere to is to not touch women. Couple that with the orange robes in the story and it's more plausible that these monks were Buddhist.
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Atleast a few of us have the ability to wise
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"Story on RT news has annoyed me a woman was forced to move seats on an American airlines flight because two pakistani monks refused to sit by a her because they are not allowed to be near or converse with females WTF. How do they get on in every day life in America then I'm sick and tired of this bollocks pandering to peoples beliefs when they are not even in their own country it will soon be time to say happy holidays instead of happy Christmas just incase you offend someone. Before anyone calls me racist I have pakistani niecees and nephews it just makes me angry that we are forced to change our ways so as not to offend others but they don't have to change so as not to offend us bollocks and they wonder why there is a massive social divide "
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"Story on RT news has annoyed me a woman was forced to move seats on an American airlines flight because two pakistani monks refused to sit by a her because they are not allowed to be near or converse with females WTF. How do they get on in every day life in America then I'm sick and tired of this bollocks pandering to peoples beliefs when they are not even in their own country it will soon be time to say happy holidays instead of happy Christmas just incase you offend someone. Before anyone calls me racist I have pakistani niecees and nephews it just makes me angry that we are forced to change our ways so as not to offend others but they don't have to change so as not to offend us bollocks and they wonder why there is a massive social divide
Do you apply the same amount of fustraion to all the middle-easten / asian ppl being removed from flights or being sat next to because ppl say the look like terrorists? "
lol really never heard that one before it has never made headline news to my knowledge. It amazes me how many times the race card comes out I have been racially assaulted on several occasions called white trash a few times had a brick thrown at me twice did I go running to the press no I just got on with it. I'm not a racist in any way shape or form I was pissed about a story which fair enough I read wrong. |
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over a year ago
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"Story on RT news has annoyed me a woman was forced to move seats on an American airlines flight because two pakistani monks refused to sit by a her because they are not allowed to be near or converse with females WTF. How do they get on in every day life in America then I'm sick and tired of this bollocks pandering to peoples beliefs when they are not even in their own country it will soon be time to say happy holidays instead of happy Christmas just incase you offend someone. Before anyone calls me racist I have pakistani niecees and nephews it just makes me angry that we are forced to change our ways so as not to offend others but they don't have to change so as not to offend us bollocks and they wonder why there is a massive social divide
Do you apply the same amount of fustraion to all the middle-easten / asian ppl being removed from flights or being sat next to because ppl say the look like terrorists? "
The one time this was reported was when a man had his visa waiver cancelled by US homeland security because he could not satisfactorily explain his connection with a suspected terrorist
Question to you: Would you rather have this man on the same flight as you, knowing that he has suspected terrorist links?
If I knew that such a man was on that flight, it won't be the seat allocation I'd be wanting changed; I'd be rebooking on a different flight! |
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"Because Islam is incompatible with western culture. There I've said it.
Does Islam have monks? "
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If you actually read the thread, you might find the answer |
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"Because Islam is incompatible with western culture. There I've said it.
Does Islam have monks? .
If you actually read the thread, you might find the answer"
I got to the usual islamaphobia and stopped. |
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The sooner the whole world gets over religion the better we will all be, and safer too. It was necessary in the dark ages to try and enforce what is now the laws of most lands. If we want to live in a truly peacefull and safe environment, then all religion should be banned.
If that means driving nutters and extremists underground, so be it, let em stay there. |
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By *anes HubbyCouple
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Having witnessed first hand an uneducated prick insulting and threatening a turban wearing Sikh gentleman and his lovely wife in the street, in the warped belief that they were Muslims.....I despair for our country and the hoards of chavs and desperately uneducated thugs amongst us.
This thread just about sums it up for me.... |
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"Story on RT news has annoyed me a woman was forced to move seats on an American airlines flight because two pakistani monks refused to sit by a her because they are not allowed to be near or converse with females WTF. How do they get on in every day life in America then I'm sick and tired of this bollocks pandering to peoples beliefs when they are not even in their own country it will soon be time to say happy holidays instead of happy Christmas just incase you offend someone. Before anyone calls me racist I have pakistani niecees and nephews it just makes me angry that we are forced to change our ways so as not to offend others but they don't have to change so as not to offend us bollocks and they wonder why there is a massive social divide
Do you apply the same amount of fustraion to all the middle-easten / asian ppl being removed from flights or being sat next to because ppl say the look like terrorists? lol really never heard that one before it has never made headline news to my knowledge. It amazes me how many times the race card comes out I have been racially assaulted on several occasions called white trash a few times had a brick thrown at me twice did I go running to the press no I just got on with it. I'm not a racist in any way shape or form I was pissed about a story which fair enough I read wrong."
Calling you white trash isn't racist it's just an observation which going from your earlier post isn't fair. Should of called you thick, white bloke who has family from backgrounds other than white British who reckons he's not a racist with uneducated views.
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"Having witnessed first hand an uneducated prick insulting and threatening a turban wearing Sikh gentleman and his lovely wife in the street, in the warped belief that they were Muslims.....I despair for our country and the hoards of chavs and desperately uneducated thugs amongst us.
This thread just about sums it up for me...."
I totally agree! Anyone brown skinned now a days is seen as a 'terrorist' by the uneducated minority. Unfortunately it's the drastic and extreme views or the minority that cause the most damage, wether you are a white racist or a terrorist. The word terrorist does not mean Muslim just for the record!!! |
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"Story on RT news has annoyed me a woman was forced to move seats on an American airlines flight because two pakistani monks refused to sit by a her because they are not allowed to be near or converse with females WTF. How do they get on in every day life in America then I'm sick and tired of this bollocks pandering to peoples beliefs when they are not even in their own country it will soon be time to say happy holidays instead of happy Christmas just incase you offend someone. Before anyone calls me racist I have pakistani niecees and nephews it just makes me angry that we are forced to change our ways so as not to offend others but they don't have to change so as not to offend us bollocks and they wonder why there is a massive social divide
Do you apply the same amount of fustraion to all the middle-easten / asian ppl being removed from flights or being sat next to because ppl say the look like terrorists? lol really never heard that one before it has never made headline news to my knowledge. It amazes me how many times the race card comes out I have been racially assaulted on several occasions called white trash a few times had a brick thrown at me twice did I go running to the press no I just got on with it. I'm not a racist in any way shape or form I was pissed about a story which fair enough I read wrong.
Calling you white trash isn't racist it's just an observation which going from your earlier post isn't fair. Should of called you thick, white bloke who has family from backgrounds other than white British who reckons he's not a racist with uneducated views.
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so if I called someone black trash I wouldn't be classed as racist? Bullshit id get nicked for it racism seems to only work one way |
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"Story on RT news has annoyed me a woman was forced to move seats on an American airlines flight because two pakistani monks refused to sit by a her because they are not allowed to be near or converse with females WTF. How do they get on in every day life in America then I'm sick and tired of this bollocks pandering to peoples beliefs when they are not even in their own country it will soon be time to say happy holidays instead of happy Christmas just incase you offend someone. Before anyone calls me racist I have pakistani niecees and nephews it just makes me angry that we are forced to change our ways so as not to offend others but they don't have to change so as not to offend us bollocks and they wonder why there is a massive social divide
Do you apply the same amount of fustraion to all the middle-easten / asian ppl being removed from flights or being sat next to because ppl say the look like terrorists? lol really never heard that one before it has never made headline news to my knowledge. It amazes me how many times the race card comes out I have been racially assaulted on several occasions called white trash a few times had a brick thrown at me twice did I go running to the press no I just got on with it. I'm not a racist in any way shape or form I was pissed about a story which fair enough I read wrong.
Calling you white trash isn't racist it's just an observation which going from your earlier post isn't fair. Should of called you thick, white bloke who has family from backgrounds other than white British who reckons he's not a racist with uneducated views.
so if I called someone black trash I wouldn't be classed as racist? Bullshit id get nicked for it racism seems to only work one way"
No mate because black isn't a race, same as white isn't. You'd get nicked for offensive language you silly sausage lol. Best way to test if something is racist or not is to go into whatever area you have a racist tendency against and use said term. If you're still alive after 5 mins you know it's OK to use. Try it |
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"Story on RT news has annoyed me a woman was forced to move seats on an American airlines flight because two pakistani monks refused to sit by a her because they are not allowed to be near or converse with females WTF. How do they get on in every day life in America then I'm sick and tired of this bollocks pandering to peoples beliefs when they are not even in their own country it will soon be time to say happy holidays instead of happy Christmas just incase you offend someone. Before anyone calls me racist I have pakistani niecees and nephews it just makes me angry that we are forced to change our ways so as not to offend others but they don't have to change so as not to offend us bollocks and they wonder why there is a massive social divide
Do you apply the same amount of fustraion to all the middle-easten / asian ppl being removed from flights or being sat next to because ppl say the look like terrorists? lol really never heard that one before it has never made headline news to my knowledge. It amazes me how many times the race card comes out I have been racially assaulted on several occasions called white trash a few times had a brick thrown at me twice did I go running to the press no I just got on with it. I'm not a racist in any way shape or form I was pissed about a story which fair enough I read wrong.
Calling you white trash isn't racist it's just an observation which going from your earlier post isn't fair. Should of called you thick, white bloke who has family from backgrounds other than white British who reckons he's not a racist with uneducated views.
so if I called someone black trash I wouldn't be classed as racist? Bullshit id get nicked for it racism seems to only work one way
No mate because black isn't a race, same as white isn't. You'd get nicked for offensive language you silly sausage lol. Best way to test if something is racist or not is to go into whatever area you have a racist tendency against and use said term. If you're still alive after 5 mins you know it's OK to use. Try it "
really your the biggest hypocrite on here your sending me private messages saying what a good thread it is then come into public view your opinion changes. White is a race black is a race that's why you get RACE crimes. My argument was not about hating Muslims or blacks or whoever it was about always bowing down so not to upset other peoples beliefs yet it got twisted around your the closet racist yet in public your golden balls lol. In Birmingham there is a massive racial divide I wouldn't go into certain areas at night there are white areas Asian areas black areas whose fault is that really the cultures don't mix its a shame everyone doesn't get on. |
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"It makes me laugh how most bigots always have a friend or family member that is black etc..
Why are you wasting your energy on being annoyed about things that didn't happen to you?
The problem here is "Pakistani". Ignorance is bliss!
If everyone understood Islam and Pakistan are two different things they wouldn't automatically make the connection.
Having someone in the family or extended family, friends who's different race, religion, colour and gender does NOT automatically make you not a racist.
Ask yourself when you look at someone do you see their colour?
How do you refer to someone as white, black, paki, Asian, Indian, Arab, osama....... if so are you truly not racist???
Next time you want something clarified go to your local Indian and ask an EDUCATED person to tell you. They will be happy to talk to you rather than reading all the news and getting your little mind twisted and becoming a bigger bigot!!!
Or you can stay in your little box thinking your not a racist....
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I love how the BNP/britain first crew immediately jumped on spouting their anti-islam rhetoric.
And i love the fact that as soon as people call-out the facts of the story (Buddhist) most people seem to calm down.
(I also love non-sarcastically the fact there are a huge swathes of non-ignorant non-sheep who are sick of anti-islam/anything lies who check and reveal facts. And also those who dont care which religion-they have the same views either way!) |
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Some real gems here from the pseudo-Fab-intelligentsia
Pakistani monks are monks who live in Pakistan
Just as Pakistani Christians are Christians who live in Pakistan
And just as British Muslims are Muslims who live in Britain
Was that so complicated?
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