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Watching regional news about " Dartford man convicted for 12 months for trying arrange a meeting with a 14 yr old. Was actually talking to a vigilante group .
BRILLIANT.. Work guys..
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over a year ago
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I'm glad those people are being caught but I'm not comfortable with the people doing the vigilante stuff. I think it's just a matter of time before it turns out some of their own motives aren't so clean.
I'd prefer to see the police doing it. |
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"I'm glad those people are being caught but I'm not comfortable with the people doing the vigilante stuff. I think it's just a matter of time before it turns out some of their own motives aren't so clean.
I'd prefer to see the police doing it."
theres already been a case as such, they tried to blackmail a fella for cash, not sure if the guy handed himself in or the 'hunters' did... but im sure they got prosecuted aswell |
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with the way the law is with those people, why not a vigilante group, we should get wife beaters, child killers & molestors weigh them down & drop them in our deepest loch Loch Morar, as they dont deserve to be given justice, my cousin was nearly raped by a guy, he was caught before he could do anything, his lawyer got him off, pity he cant walk now |
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"with the way the law is with those people, why not a vigilante group, we should get wife beaters, child killers & molestors weigh them down & drop them in our deepest loch Loch Morar, as they dont deserve to be given justice, my cousin was nearly raped by a guy, he was caught before he could do anything, his lawyer got him off, pity he cant walk now"
So crippling another human being who has been found not guilty is your answer then?  |
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
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"with the way the law is with those people, why not a vigilante group, we should get wife beaters, child killers & molestors weigh them down & drop them in our deepest loch Loch Morar, as they dont deserve to be given justice, my cousin was nearly raped by a guy, he was caught before he could do anything, his lawyer got him off, pity he cant walk now"
and when those very same vigilantes decide that swingers are on the same level as wife beaters and child molesters after all we are all perverts and degenarates in most poeples eyes and weigh them down and throw them in lakes what will you say then ?
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"with the way the law is with those people, why not a vigilante group, we should get wife beaters, child killers & molestors weigh them down & drop them in our deepest loch Loch Morar, as they dont deserve to be given justice, my cousin was nearly raped by a guy, he was caught before he could do anything, his lawyer got him off, pity he cant walk now"
Really? So let's assume that I accuse you of raping me and a young person. You'd be happy to be dropped in a deep lake as you don't deserve to be offered justice of any sort?
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"with the way the law is with those people, why not a vigilante group, we should get wife beaters, child killers & molestors weigh them down & drop them in our deepest loch Loch Morar, as they dont deserve to be given justice, my cousin was nearly raped by a guy, he was caught before he could do anything, his lawyer got him off, pity he cant walk now
Really? So let's assume that I accuse you of raping me and a young person. You'd be happy to be dropped in a deep lake as you don't deserve to be offered justice of any sort?
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"This thread is awful and is the reason why we have a criminal justice system, as imperfect as it is.
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It's a few years ago, but lets not forget the vigilantes that understood paediatrician to be the same as paedophile.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"and the inevitable slide into pathetic testosterone induced attempts by some to spout complete bollocks in a shag me i'm a hard man begins..
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hahaha very true!! |
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"and the inevitable slide into pathetic testosterone induced attempts by some to spout complete bollocks in a shag me i'm a hard man begins..
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Makes me ashamed to say I was born just outside Glasgow. |
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"I'm glad those people are being caught but I'm not comfortable with the people doing the vigilante stuff. I think it's just a matter of time before it turns out some of their own motives aren't so clean.
I'd prefer to see the police doing it."
The idea of vigilante groups normally is something I would,nt be comfortable with. However when its in this sphere where predators main tool of choice is the internet I think its valid. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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His solicitor didn't get him off a jury would give a not guilty verdict. They were given all the evidence re_iewed this and saw it wasn't proof of a crime. People unfortunately will say things sometimes like they have been raped without it being true. Although sometimes there is not enough proof of the crime committed. But who are we to judge without all the facts. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm glad those people are being caught but I'm not comfortable with the people doing the vigilante stuff. I think it's just a matter of time before it turns out some of their own motives aren't so clean.
I'd prefer to see the police doing it. The idea of vigilante groups normally is something I would,nt be comfortable with. However when its in this sphere where predators main tool of choice is the internet I think its valid. "
if a group of untrained people why cant and why shouldnt it be left to police?? what next? tax evasion hunters? non payment of parking fines hunters? |
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no we didnt cripple him, came out of the pub after celebrating with his mates, got hit by a bus,both legs crushed,& the irony of this I as the one who gave him first aid till the medics arrived, I seemingly as the one who helped save his life, & I will always help people who require help, he deserved to be punished, but not that way. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The biggest issue with this and also naming and shaming of said individuals, is that it drives them "underground" where even the police cannot monitor them.
Don't get me wrong, if anyone touched my kids I'd fucking kill em,but openly naming and shaming can have serious repercussions.
Plus.... There are also the innocent people.
I was once taken to court by a very bitter ex for subjecting my children to mental/emotional abuse.
He was bitter because I ended a toxic relationship and it got laughed out of court.
By your standards I'd be hung drawn and quartered by now. |
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"no we didnt cripple him, came out of the pub after celebrating with his mates, got hit by a bus,both legs crushed,& the irony of this I as the one who gave him first aid till the medics arrived, I seemingly as the one who helped save his life, & I will always help people who require help, he deserved to be punished, but not that way."
what a coincidence you and someone else just happened to be there when he was hit by a bus..
your good Samaritan act is a bit at odds with your initial post and your false concern about him not being to walk, very strange..
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By (user no longer on site)
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"no we didnt cripple him, came out of the pub after celebrating with his mates, got hit by a bus,both legs crushed,& the irony of this I as the one who gave him first aid till the medics arrived, I seemingly as the one who helped save his life, & I will always help people who require help, he deserved to be punished, but not that way."
You'll understand this saying being from Glasgow lol
What a load of pish!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"no we didnt cripple him, came out of the pub after celebrating with his mates, got hit by a bus,both legs crushed,& the irony of this I as the one who gave him first aid till the medics arrived, I seemingly as the one who helped save his life, & I will always help people who require help, he deserved to be punished, but not that way.
You'll understand this saying being from Glasgow lol
What a load of pish! "
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"Watching regional news about " Dartford man convicted for 12 months for trying arrange a meeting with a 14 yr old. Was actually talking to a vigilante group .
BRILLIANT.. Work guys..
Leave no place for these people to operate,or those choose to protect them. "
I don't know what's worse, the bloke convicted or the people pretending to be a 14 yo girl.
Isn't it entrapment?  |
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There are some very *disturbing* things about this phenomenon.
1/ we never see the actual message thread in full or in part, so we never know anything about that.
2/ we can assume that for there to be sufficient content to interest the police / cps, there would be some content regarding an illegal act, such as having sex with a minor, rather than a merely immporal act, such as lewd "seaside postcard" chat with a minor.
3/ since they are *not* bound by the same rules as law enforcement, they *can* engage in entrapment.
4/ I'm going to seriously question how for example a 40 year old male self styled paedo hunter, let's call him Derek, is going to convince another male, let's call him Joe, that Joe is actually talking to a 13 year old girl called Julie. No doubt photos of some young girl are used, so where are they obtained, and are they themselves legal?
5/ It's reasonably well known that paedophiles gravitate towards certain activities and professions either to get access to children, or as a cover for their activities, and it occurs to me that being a "paedo hunter" makes an excellent cover.
6/ to my limited knowledge, none of the men trapped to date have been paedophiles, they have all been ephebophiles
7/ god help a guy turning up to meet "Julie" at the appointed time and place, as I and every other male on here has done in swinging, to find out that some vigilate group just happens to be at the same venue waiting for "Joe" to turn up to meet "julie"... guy walks in looking around for someone like you do, "Derek" walks up to him and asks "Are you here to meet Julie mate?" Guy says "yes" and all hell breaks loose.
As others have so succinctly and eloquently said, there is no place for vigilantism alongside law and order, pick one. |
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"no we didnt cripple him, came out of the pub after celebrating with his mates, got hit by a bus,both legs crushed,& the irony of this I as the one who gave him first aid till the medics arrived, I seemingly as the one who helped save his life, & I will always help people who require help, he deserved to be punished, but not that way.
You'll understand this saying being from Glasgow lol
What a load of pish! "
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By (user no longer on site)
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We have a justice system for a reason.... So all those in favour of vigilates answer 1 question how would you feel if someone made a false alogation against you and they took it upon themselves to turn you into a cripple? There is no place in civilised society for vigilate justice theyre thugs hiding behind an agenda and they and all who support them are a disgrace to society in my humble opinion
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By (user no longer on site)
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What's needed is tougher sentences, paedophiles convicted of rape should never be allowed out. It is absolutely impossible to rehabilitate them. They will always pose an ongoing risk of re-offending. Therefore the prison system should not be releasing them back into the public. Vigilantes are not the way to go though, too much chance of getting it wrong and it being corrupted by people's agendas. |
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I saw the video of that guy who thought he was meeting a 14 year old. While I understand people's disgust about paedophilia I appreciate that the police are stretched very thinly.
I can't help thinking the vigilantes did trap that man but he wouldn't have been caught if he wasn't up to something.
However, the line of questioning was a bit much and I think they should have called the police before arranging to meet the guy.
Their harassment of the guy made me squirm! Presumed guilty by vigilantes. I found that very uncomfortable. |
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"Societys pedo
appologists do not speak for us all....shame upon you and your kind!!
Fear\rape\pain destroyed lives given to chidren..glad we have someone to scare the monsters.
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Nobody on here is a paedophile apologist |
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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago
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"What about the time those vigilantes vandalised the home of an honest Dr because they couldn't tell the difference between a Paedophile and a Paediatrician?
Mobs are dumb as fuck!"
This. Happened in Newport I think.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"with the way the law is with those people, why not a vigilante group, we should get wife beaters, child killers & molestors weigh them down & drop them in our deepest loch Loch Morar, as they dont deserve to be given justice, my cousin was nearly raped by a guy, he was caught before he could do anything, his lawyer got him off, pity he cant walk now"
So he git crippled. Hate to break this to you but violemy vigilante thugs are part of the problem not a solution |
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"Watching regional news about " Dartford man convicted for 12 months for trying arrange a meeting with a 14 yr old. Was actually talking to a vigilante group .
BRILLIANT.. Work guys..
Leave no place for these people to operate,or those choose to protect them.
I don't know what's worse, the bloke convicted or the people pretending to be a 14 yo girl.
Isn't it entrapment? "
Seriously? Fuck entrapment! Thank God there is an army of police men and women out there, setting up traps for an army of paedophile nightmares to fall into. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"and the inevitable slide into pathetic testosterone induced attempts by some to spout complete bollocks in a shag me i'm a hard man begins..
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It's as pathetic as it is inevitable |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Watching regional news about " Dartford man convicted for 12 months for trying arrange a meeting with a 14 yr old. Was actually talking to a vigilante group .
BRILLIANT.. Work guys..
Leave no place for these people to operate,or those choose to protect them.
I don't know what's worse, the bloke convicted or the people pretending to be a 14 yo girl.
Isn't it entrapment? "
It is potentially entrapment which is why the vigilante group captures result in so few convictions. I think the police and CPS are less tHan keen on them for that reason. I also think that thete have been police operations derailed by the paedophile hunters |
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And these vigilantes and internet warriors fuck up the real police work; often their interference destroys carefully built up evidence gathering by police.
These idiots don't realize that the police have sophisticated real "Internet detectives" who are getting to the real heart of these paedophile rings.
Years of painstaking research and undercover activity can be destroyed by ignorant fuckwits.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think it's somebody's own decision what they want to do within the law, if they want to spend they're time "setting up" and recording suspected criminals there perfectly entitled to do it.
If they manage to get convictions and I belive they've got quite a few then even better! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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What do you spend your spare time doing "I go on the internet, pretend to be a 13 year old girl and have inappropriate sexual conversations with men in the hope they'll meet me"
I'd share the comments of other posters as to the motives of the hunters |
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By *igeiaWoman
over a year ago
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"Watching regional news about " Dartford man convicted for 12 months for trying arrange a meeting with a 14 yr old. Was actually talking to a vigilante group .
BRILLIANT.. Work guys..
Leave no place for these people to operate,or those choose to protect them. "
And make it really hard for the CPS to prosecute a case due to the way in which the evidence is not only gathered but shared online pre-trial without a thought to the fallback that results to the innocent family (in some cases including children) and friends of the person publicly shamed in said sting operation? I'd much rather the evidence was collected lawfully, without ulterior motives and with the identities of innocent bystanders protected. There are groups who work with the police to achieve that. They're the ones who don't crow about it all over social media until after the case has been brought to court. |
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"I'm glad those people are being caught but I'm not comfortable with the people doing the vigilante stuff. I think it's just a matter of time before it turns out some of their own motives aren't so clean.
I'd prefer to see the police doing it."
This for me too! |
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Yeah, I'm uncomfortable with this kind of thing. The guys you see in these things tend not to come across as world-class scientists and lawyers. There's a lot of aggressive Sun-style hyperbole and posturing.
I also find the entrapment angle a bit suspect. Many years ago, I experienced a seemingly normal chat on a site quite like this one go west when small details were gradually dropped into the conversation to hint at an underage user (I'm 19. Well, 18. Alright 16. Here's my photo - school uniform, obviously). I twigged quite quickly that something wasn't right and I'm convinced to this day that it was actually a guy, not an underage girl. |
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"Are you all as against the RSPCA as these vigilantes? genuine question
Now that is pure codswallop."
Well if they are walloping fish someone needs to protect them.
I'm going to be the CodGranny........ save our cod ! |
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"Are you all as against the RSPCA as these vigilantes? genuine question"
Don't be so fucking stupid;
The RSPCA is a properly licensed and trained organization;
Their officers have training in how to carry out investigations according to the law ; and work closely with the police under proper procedures and under the law .
And they don't fuck about setting up " stings "; they work on evidence received , within the law. |
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"Watching regional news about " Dartford man convicted for 12 months for trying arrange a meeting with a 14 yr old. Was actually talking to a vigilante group .
BRILLIANT.. Work guys..
Leave no place for these people to operate,or those choose to protect them. "
I read in the Mirror this week , that a vigilante type group took offence to messages that a bloke sent to a woman friend. They took him from the street, kept him in a cupboard, stuck things up his arse, beat him and locked him in a tiny cupboard naked.
The 'wronged' women filmed it.
They believed they were justified.
It won't be long before self styled heroes do something really damaging to innocent people. |
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"Are you all as against the RSPCA as these vigilantes? genuine question
Now that is pure codswallop.
Well if they are walloping fish someone needs to protect them.
I'm going to be the CodGranny........ save our cod !"
 Granny, you crack me up! |
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"Watching regional news about " Dartford man convicted for 12 months for trying arrange a meeting with a 14 yr old. Was actually talking to a vigilante group .
BRILLIANT.. Work guys..
Leave no place for these people to operate,or those choose to protect them.
I read in the Mirror this week , that a vigilante type group took offence to messages that a bloke sent to a woman friend. They took him from the street, kept him in a cupboard, stuck things up his arse, beat him and locked him in a tiny cupboard naked.
The 'wronged' women filmed it.
They believed they were justified.
It won't be long before self styled heroes do something really damaging to innocent people."
Why have I got an image in my mind of caped crusaders kicking the living daylights out of a therapist, thinking he was "the rapist?" |
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"Are you all as against the RSPCA as these vigilantes? genuine question
Now that is pure codswallop.
Well if they are walloping fish someone needs to protect them.
I'm going to be the CodGranny........ save our cod !"
Plaice calm down Granny. |
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This is why it needs to be left to the police.