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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I like Hull, my Dad comes from there. The beauty of being neglected is that a distinct identity develops, and a lot of the original buildings remain (at least those not destroyed in the blitz). The Maritime Museum in the old harbour offices is brilliant, straight from my childhood, and not a bit interactive or trendy. The toilets under Queen Victoria's statue are a miracle of Edwardian sanitary engineering. The best I have ever seen.
Now the entire city centre is being dug up in preparation for 2017. I suppose my fear is that Hull will become like every other city that has been 'regenerated'. Call me a sentimental, reactionary southern namby pamby. But I fear for Hull...there is a creeping tide of granite paving, public street sculpture, stainless steel and glass facades, and it is coming to this great city. What are your views? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I've never been to Hull, but I once met a man from Hull for a social... "
Go to Hull before its too late! Well at least he didn't smell of fish I hope. We have Iceland and the Cod War to thank for that! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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In my opinion, Liverpool benefited from the investment which came from its capital of culture status in 2000. Newcastle lost out, but has still benefited from regeneration. It's nice to hark back to some kind of good old days, but that's not a viable reality for most modern cities. Adapt or die. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"In my opinion, Liverpool benefited from the investment which came from its capital of culture status in 2000. Newcastle lost out, but has still benefited from regeneration. It's nice to hark back to some kind of good old days, but that's not a viable reality for most modern cities. Adapt or die. "
Yes, jobs and decent infrastructure, not trendy window dressing. I agree. I just hope the best of the old can be retained and not homogenised into 'modern city' as often is the case. There is plenty of 50's architectural brutalism that needs dealing with. As for jobs, Siemens is coming to the docks. Hull is ideally placed for the offshore wind turbine industry. |
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By *oddyWoman
over a year ago
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"I like Hull, my Dad comes from there. The beauty of being neglected is that a distinct identity develops, and a lot of the original buildings remain (at least those not destroyed in the blitz). The Maritime Museum in the old harbour offices is brilliant, straight from my childhood, and not a bit interactive or trendy. The toilets under Queen Victoria's statue are a miracle of Edwardian sanitary engineering. The best I have ever seen.
Now the entire city centre is being dug up in preparation for 2017. I suppose my fear is that Hull will become like every other city that has been 'regenerated'. Call me a sentimental, reactionary southern namby pamby. But I fear for Hull...there is a creeping tide of granite paving, public street sculpture, stainless steel and glass facades, and it is coming to this great city. What are your views? " do they still have the poems on the walls there and the fresh flowers in the loos |
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Ma mam's side of the family come from Hull, although I've not been up there for about 15 yrs apart from going to a couple of football matches. From what I remember there were some fine buildings, but it did need a bit of regeneration |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Even though born and brought up on the mean streets of Hessle Rd and Orchard Park don't fervently love the place but am concerned that the real Hull is being brushed under the carpet so monied yuppie types can feel "at home". |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The images on the news look like sensitive regeneration and not glass and steel gentrification.
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There's plenty of that near the marina, used to be a fantastic little fresh fish shop there 'till is was forced to move. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I like Hull, my Dad comes from there. The beauty of being neglected is that a distinct identity develops, and a lot of the original buildings remain (at least those not destroyed in the blitz). The Maritime Museum in the old harbour offices is brilliant, straight from my childhood, and not a bit interactive or trendy. The toilets under Queen Victoria's statue are a miracle of Edwardian sanitary engineering. The best I have ever seen.
Now the entire city centre is being dug up in preparation for 2017. I suppose my fear is that Hull will become like every other city that has been 'regenerated'. Call me a sentimental, reactionary southern namby pamby. But I fear for Hull...there is a creeping tide of granite paving, public street sculpture, stainless steel and glass facades, and it is coming to this great city. What are your views? "
When you are listing the public toilets Edwardian sanitary engineering as one of the city's main attractions then it is quite clearly the time to regenerate the place |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I like Hull, my Dad comes from there. The beauty of being neglected is that a distinct identity develops, and a lot of the original buildings remain (at least those not destroyed in the blitz). The Maritime Museum in the old harbour offices is brilliant, straight from my childhood, and not a bit interactive or trendy. The toilets undier Queen Victoria's statue are a miracle of Edwardian sanitary engineering. The best I have ever seen.
Now the entire city centre is being dug up in preparation for 2017. I suppose my fear is that Hull will become like every other city that has been 'regenerated'. Call me a sentimental, reactionary southern namby pamby. But I fear for Hull...there is a creeping tide of granite paving, public street sculpture, stainless steel and glass facades, and it is coming to this great city. What are your views? do they still have the poems on the walls there and the fresh flowers in the loos"
I didnt see any poems or flowers, but there was an office for the attendant, and no 20p charge or turnstiles. Clean tiled floors and walls, stupendous sanitary ware of monumental proportions made in Burnley, and a profusion of polished brass pipes. Sublime. I urge people to visit. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"The images on the news look like sensitive regeneration and not glass and steel gentrification.
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I do hope so. My worry is that the regeneration consultants will be brought in...I so hope I am proved to be worrying needlessly. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I like Hull, my Dad comes from there. The beauty of being neglected is that a distinct identity develops, and a lot of the original buildings remain (at least those not destroyed in the blitz). The Maritime Museum in the old harbour offices is brilliant, straight from my childhood, and not a bit interactive or trendy. The toilets under Queen Victoria's statue are a miracle of Edwardian sanitary engineering. The best I have ever seen.
Now the entire city centre is being dug up in preparation for 2017. I suppose my fear is that Hull will become like every other city that has been 'regenerated'. Call me a sentimental, reactionary southern namby pamby. But I fear for Hull...there is a creeping tide of granite paving, public street sculpture, stainless steel and glass facades, and it is coming to this great city. What are your views?
When you are listing the public toilets Edwardian sanitary engineering as one of the city's main attractions then it is quite clearly the time to regenerate the place "
These things loom large for men of a certain age! But point taken. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"The images on the news look like sensitive regeneration and not glass and steel gentrification.
I do hope so. My worry is that the regeneration consultants will be brought in...I so hope I am proved to be worrying needlessly."
Have a look at the images. There's still a lot of work to do to be ready for January.
I like Victorian public conveniences too.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Worked there for a couple of years and commuted from Barnsley.
Had some excellent nights out and lucky enough to bag a Swanland princess for some filthy fun.
Investment is great but cant help think in 15 years will it looks as good
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It is a great city, definitely in need of a bit of love and attention in certain areas, but I've no doubt it will retain its charm because of the people. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"The images on the news look like sensitive regeneration and not glass and steel gentrification.
There seemed to be as many roadworks as London - I empathise!! "
The entire centre of Hull was closed to traffic last Sunday. Maybe best to have massive disruption in one hit? |
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"The images on the news look like sensitive regeneration and not glass and steel gentrification.
There seemed to be as many roadworks as London - I empathise!!
The entire centre of Hull was closed to traffic last Sunday. Maybe best to have massive disruption in one hit? "
Yes, that seems to be the theory in London too sometimes.... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"The images on the news look like sensitive regeneration and not glass and steel gentrification.
I do hope so. My worry is that the regeneration consultants will be brought in...I so hope I am proved to be worrying needlessly.
Have a look at the images. There's still a lot of work to do to be ready for January.
I like Victorian public conveniences too.
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Talking as as man, I prefer a concealing vitreous urinal to a communal stainless steel trough any day!
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By (user no longer on site)
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Will it bring thousands more people into the place in a very short space of time?
Be prepared for travel chaos,no school places,longer waiting times for a gp appointment and blocks of flats appearing on every square metre of land.
The air quality could drop substantially too.
We pay heavily for progress. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The images on the news look like sensitive regeneration and not glass and steel gentrification.
There seemed to be as many roadworks as London - I empathise!!
The entire centre of Hull was closed to traffic last Sunday. Maybe best to have massive disruption in one hit?
Yes, that seems to be the theory in London too sometimes.... "
One hit lasting years. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Will it bring thousands more people into the place in a very short space of time?
Be prepared for travel chaos,no school places,longer waiting times for a gp appointment and blocks of flats appearing on every square metre of land.
The air quality could drop substantially too.
We pay heavily for progress. "
That is the nightmare scenario. However, Hull is not in a great location for links to the rest of the UK, so I doubt it will happen. I hope that it will rejuvenate the place, open people's eyes to its proud heritage, create new spaces for cultural revival, and make it a truly great city for its citizens. I suspect a lot of luvvies will be helicoptered in...let's hope for some 'legacy'from all this. |
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