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Change 1 UK law

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

So you've got the chance to change 1 law - what would it be and why?

I'd change drinking to 21 - let young people get used to going out at weekends and socialise rather than drink to oblivion!

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By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

Caught drink driving once, banned for 5 years

Banned twice: life ban

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Caught drink driving once, banned for 5 years

Banned twice: life ban"

but more so - no drink drive ever

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'd make it impossible for corporations to avoid paying their fair share of tax.

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By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

"Caught drink driving once, banned for 5 years

Banned twice: life ban

but more so - no drink drive ever "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Paedophiles ..Life in prison and castration.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Make everyone's CRB public for all to see!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"...and castration."

Without meaning to diverge from the topic of the thread, you would sincerely advocate for genital mutilation as a form of justice?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Loosen up gun laws and introduce a USA style Second Amendment Constitution referring to the right to keep and bear arms

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By *etter the devil you knowWoman over a year ago

Lyndhurst

Ban children from pubs, have family rooms instead like they used to.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"...and castration.

Without meaning to diverge from the topic of the thread, you would sincerely advocate for genital mutilation as a form of justice?

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.. .Just my own personel opinion as others have in the thread.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Ban children from pubs, have family rooms instead like they used to."

Yeeees! Nothing worse than kids in a pub (foody types that's fine) but pub pubs should Definetly be a no no!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So you've got the chance to change 1 law - what would it be and why?"

It isn't law yet, but I would veto the Investigatory Powers Bill.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

Overhaul of driving laws with comprehensive enforcement - lane hogging, tail-gating, use of outer lanes when not overtaking. Penalties for repeat offenders including bans but always fines above £1000 and 500 hours community service minimum.

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By *ackDMissMorganCouple over a year ago

Halifax

Tighten up animal cruelty laws ,so people do actually get punished.

Miss

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By *etter the devil you knowWoman over a year ago

Lyndhurst

"Tighten up animal cruelty laws ,so people do actually get punished.

Miss"

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By *alcon43Woman over a year ago

Paisley

The jail sentences should be tougher. Life means life!! Not out after 15 years.

Repeat rapists should get life

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Restrict voting rights to those holding a Masters or equivalent or higher.

Reading the tabloids or getting your news from Facebook would also get you banned from voting.

What happens if you give everyone a vote?

On 23/6/16 a National IQ test was taken by 72% of the British population. Failure rate 51.9%.

If we had a referendum on the death penalty it'd probably get voted back.

Sadly we are no longer capable of rational thought as a country.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A guy in Bristol was given a six month jail sentence for beating his dog....Good

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Remove the 70 limit and allow undertaking on motorways and dual carrigeways.

It would make everyone pay far more attention to their driving (which would then improve) and make the roads safer.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Restrict voting rights to those holding a Masters or equivalent or higher.

Reading the tabloids or getting your news from Facebook would also get you banned from voting.

What happens if you give everyone a vote?

On 23/6/16 a National IQ test was taken by 72% of the British population. Failure rate 51.9%.

If we had a referendum on the death penalty it'd probably get voted back.

Sadly we are no longer capable of rational thought as a country.

Quite patronising to say the least!

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By *obbytupperMan over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

"Paedophiles ..Life in prison and castration."

Chemical or can we do it in turn with rusty scissors?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Restrict voting rights to those holding a Masters or equivalent or higher.

Reading the tabloids or getting your news from Facebook would also get you banned from voting.

What happens if you give everyone a vote?

On 23/6/16 a National IQ test was taken by 72% of the British population. Failure rate 51.9%.

If we had a referendum on the death penalty it'd probably get voted back.

Sadly we are no longer capable of rational thought as a country.

How do you "fail an IQ test"?

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By *manda63Woman over a year ago

Southampton

"Paedophiles ..Life in prison and castration."

I agree with you

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By *manda63Woman over a year ago

Southampton

"Tighten up animal cruelty laws ,so people do actually get punished.

Miss"

I've recently seen videos on FB showing this, he needed the same treatment as he gave the animal, also the scum filming him deserved the same

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By *manda63Woman over a year ago

Southampton

"Ban children from pubs, have family rooms instead like they used to.

Yeeees! Nothing worse than kids in a pub (foody types that's fine) but pub pubs should Definetly be a no no!"

There's a new pub near me and it's great. Kids area is the other side of the pub with a indoor and outdoor play area. Can't hear the noise kids make at all

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Paedophiles ..Life in prison and castration."

what does castration have to do with it?

life in prison I can understand..

castration would solve absolutely nothing.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Paedophiles ..Life in prison and castration.

what does castration have to do with it?

life in prison I can understand..

castration would solve absolutely nothing."

especially for females I meant to add.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Restrict voting rights to those holding a Masters or equivalent or higher.

Reading the tabloids or getting your news from Facebook would also get you banned from voting.

What happens if you give everyone a vote?

On 23/6/16 a National IQ test was taken by 72% of the British population. Failure rate 51.9%.

If we had a referendum on the death penalty it'd probably get voted back.

Sadly we are no longer capable of rational thought as a country.

How do you "fail an IQ test"?

I'm assuming he's not happy with the whole Brexit thing.

Not sure about the death penalty comment either? I don't think it would.

I would reform D&A law. Similar to Nick cleggs manifesto.

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By *VBethTV/TS over a year ago

Chester

You fail it by not sharing the same _iew as the person making that comment. Therefore, he actually failed.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Jay walking (mindlessness walking across the road without looking) minimum of £500 fine although in the case of people Jay Walking while texting jail sentence.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And after you've mutilated and castrated these people, what do you do if it turns out they were innocent?

Colin Stagg for example?

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By *eovilcouple76Couple over a year ago

yeovil

Bring back capital punishment.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Loosen up gun laws and introduce a USA style Second Amendment Constitution referring to the right to keep and bear arms"
Really do you not watch the news with mass shootings going on all the time, its bad enough that the police are armed some have a shoot first ask questions later mentality. I remember Hungerford that's why gun laws were tightened up over here. If people carry guns your asking for trouble.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Paedophiles ..Life in prison and castration."
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By *eovilcouple76Couple over a year ago

yeovil

"Loosen up gun laws and introduce a USA style Second Amendment Constitution referring to the right to keep and bear armsReally do you not watch the news with mass shootings going on all the time, its bad enough that the police are armed some have a shoot first ask questions later mentality. I remember Hungerford that's why gun laws were tightened up over here. If people carry guns your asking for trouble."

Yep. And since they tightened up the gun laws in this country, gun crime has stopped altogether hasn't it????? No, it just penalised legitimate sportsmen and ruined a whole industry.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yep. And since they tightened up the gun laws in this country, gun crime has stopped altogether hasn't it????? No, it just penalised legitimate sportsmen and ruined a whole industry. "

so lets say hypothetically, you shoot an alleged burglar on your property, but you are found guilty of murder...you would be put to death.Despite the fact there may be a reasonable case for reducing the charge, or absolving it due to new evidence etc

you are happy with the death penalty?

its a hypothetical extreme yes, and think of different scenarios of course...

still happy with the death penalty...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yep. And since they tightened up the gun laws in this country, gun crime has stopped altogether hasn't it????? No, it just penalised legitimate sportsmen and ruined a whole industry. "
what sport if your talking about hunting that's not a sport and as far as I'm concerned

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Loosen up gun laws and introduce a USA style Second Amendment Constitution referring to the right to keep and bear arms"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ban shops from displaying Christmas shit at this time of year

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By *am-RaiderMan over a year ago

Corby

"Tighten up animal cruelty laws ,so people do actually get punished.

Miss"

..with genital mutilation.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And after you've mutilated and castrated these people, what do you do if it turns out they were innocent?

Colin Stagg for example?"
..Those that reoffend and prowel on the innocent,should be locked up for good,with Dna these days the guilty ones are just that guilty ,in every crime some are guilty some maybe not,but they cant hide like they use to,those who commited murder and thought they have got away with it years ago,are now being brought to justice through Dna.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yep. And since they tightened up the gun laws in this country, gun crime has stopped altogether hasn't it????? No, it just penalised legitimate sportsmen and ruined a whole industry.

you are happy with the death penalty?

its a hypothetical extreme yes, and think of different scenarios of course...

still happy with the death penalty..."
they changed the law over here recently didn't they? That if someone breaks into your house or wherever and you feel your life is threatened that you could use whatever force necessary to safeguard yourself which might result in the burglar dying but then you would have to prove how your life was in danger.

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By *iamondjoeMan over a year ago

Glastonbury

Is this thread some kind of twisted tribute to The Daily Mail's wall of shame?

Threads like this are *precisely* the reason we have a criminal justice system, as imperfect as it is.

We all have pet hates but fortunately we don't have mob rule.

Keep frothing.

As you were.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is this thread some kind of twisted tribute to The Daily Mail's wall of shame?

Threads like this are *precisely* the reason we have a criminal justice system, as imperfect as it is.

We all have pet hates but fortunately we don't have mob rule.

Keep frothing.

As you were."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Ban shops from displaying Christmas shit at this time of year "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Paedophiles ..Life in prison and castration.

Chemical or can we do it in turn with rusty scissors?

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ied use the slowly rip and pull method but each to there own

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By *al2001Man over a year ago

kildare

I'd change your dog laws and breed bans. Microchip all dogs and prosecute owners of nuisance dogs

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Six times in three months i was burgled ,the last time it was 5.30am in the morning,i was sat having a cuppa with my mother and the front room opened and in walked two men,my mother screamed they ran thank god,and i baracaded us both in and rang the police,the police came within minutes with dogs,and caught them,they got four years,they had come through a window in the back of the house,well they wont get in my house again,ive had double glazing an alarm fitted,and the police put a panic button in my front room as i was burgled so many times,thank god we didnt come to any harm ,could have been a lot worse.

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By *al2001Man over a year ago

kildare

"Six times in three months i was burgled ,the last time it was 5.30am in the morning,i was sat having a cuppa with my mother and the front room opened and in walked two men,my mother screamed they ran thank god,and i baracaded us both in and rang the police,the police came within minutes with dogs,and caught them,they got four years,they had come through a window in the back of the house,well they wont get in my house again,ive had double glazing an alarm fitted,and the police put a panic button in my front room as i was burgled so many times,thank god we didnt come to any harm ,could have been a lot worse."

Good job by cops and courts. No law change needed there

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By *LCCCouple over a year ago

Cambridge

"Restrict voting rights to those holding a Masters or equivalent or higher.

Reading the tabloids or getting your news from Facebook would also get you banned from voting.

What happens if you give everyone a vote?

On 23/6/16 a National IQ test was taken by 72% of the British population. Failure rate 51.9%.

If we had a referendum on the death penalty it'd probably get voted back.

Sadly we are no longer capable of rational thought as a country.

I once heard a suggestion that everyone should get a vote. You can either use it in a general election, or you can use it for the X Factor/Britain's got Talent/Strictly, but if you vote in one you can't vote in the other

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By *eovilcouple76Couple over a year ago

yeovil

Yep. And since they tightened up the gun laws in this country, gun crime has stopped altogether hasn't it????? No, it just penalised legitimate sportsmen and ruined a whole industry.

you are happy with the death penalty?

its a hypothetical extreme yes, and think of different scenarios of course...

still happy with the death penalty..."

Absolutely still happy with the death penalty.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And after you've mutilated and castrated these people, what do you do if it turns out they were innocent?

Colin Stagg for example?..Those that reoffend and prowel on the innocent,should be locked up for good,with Dna these days the guilty ones are just that guilty ,in every crime some are guilty some maybe not,but they cant hide like they use to,those who commited murder and thought they have got away with it years ago,are now being brought to justice through Dna."

You actually think DNA is infallible? Do you know what percentage of convictions are supported by DNA? Are you mad? I could shake hands with you pick up a knife and your DNA would be on that knife that I could stab someone with. "In the Amanda Knox trial, the Italian police presented virtually no other evidence that the 24-year-old American university student had murdered her English flatmate Meredith Kercher. With no obvious motive, no witnesses, no confessions and very little in the way of circumstantial evidence, the Italian prosecutors built a case almost entirely around the finding of Ms Knox’s DNA on the knife used to slash Ms Kercher’s throat."

DNA and a perfect justice system. If you smoke and drop a cigarette at a place where a crime is later committed would you be happy to be convicted solely on that? It happens.

Everyone, be careful what you wish for

Lol

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

i am going to be different... because the one i would pick would in effect have a profound effect on everything else...

I would go electorial... change the FTTP system we have at the moment, for the some sort of PR voting system (like the alernative vote system)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Restrict voting rights to those holding a Masters or equivalent or higher.

Reading the tabloids or getting your news from Facebook would also get you banned from voting.

What happens if you give everyone a vote?

On 23/6/16 a National IQ test was taken by 72% of the British population. Failure rate 51.9%.

If we had a referendum on the death penalty it'd probably get voted back.

Sadly we are no longer capable of rational thought as a country.

I started my adult working life with an engineering Modern Apprenticeship, moving onward to being a highly specialised technician. On redundancy I did various things until becoming my own boss. Now a multi-award winning businessman, a chairman of a regional volunteer organisation, a panel member responsible for town rejuvenation. Guess what? No degree, nevermind a Masters. I find your post quite degrading, and hardly the thoughts of someone I trust with voting... But, we give the vote to all those old enough. It is democracy, and you're entitled to your opinion.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yep. And since they tightened up the gun laws in this country, gun crime has stopped altogether hasn't it????? No, it just penalised legitimate sportsmen and ruined a whole industry.

you are happy with the death penalty?

its a hypothetical extreme yes, and think of different scenarios of course...

still happy with the death penalty...

Absolutely still happy with the death penalty. "

You have that luxury because it doesn't exist here. Iran, Pakistan, China, maybe you should move to one of these humanitarian Utopias where there isn't crime because they have a death penalty! Only since states in the US have stopped executing people so freely, has the serious crime rate fallen. Wait, that can't be right? Lalalalala I'm moving to imagination land...

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By *uxom redCouple over a year ago

Shrewsbury

Revoke an old law.. Oliver Cromwell made it illegal to eat mince pies

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yep. And since they tightened up the gun laws in this country, gun crime has stopped altogether hasn't it????? No, it just penalised legitimate sportsmen and ruined a whole industry.

you are happy with the death penalty?

its a hypothetical extreme yes, and think of different scenarios of course...

still happy with the death penalty...

Absolutely still happy with the death penalty. "

lets hope that grey squirrel never accidentally becomes a nature photographer like myself is all am saying...

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By *r TriomanMan over a year ago

Chippenham Malmesbury area

"i am going to be different... because the one i would pick would in effect have a profound effect on everything else...

I would go electorial... change the FTTP system we have at the moment, for the some sort of PR voting system (like the alernative vote system)"

Didn't we have a referendum on this? And wasn't it rejected? I'm sure this is what Nick Clegg wanted and the people rejected it.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Restrict voting rights to those holding a Masters or equivalent or higher.

Reading the tabloids or getting your news from Facebook would also get you banned from voting.

What happens if you give everyone a vote?

On 23/6/16 a National IQ test was taken by 72% of the British population. Failure rate 51.9%.

If we had a referendum on the death penalty it'd probably get voted back.

Sadly we are no longer capable of rational thought as a country.

So ......... cough ........ on the 23rd june this year........ 52 million people took an i.q. test ? My I.Q. tells me no.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This increase in fine for phone while driving is only going up to max of being acceptable to increase revenue. Loose your license for 3 months and then retake your test or something which will actually hurt. During your 3 months ban spend time with 5 families who have suffered as a result of someone driving while using their phone so you become fully aware of the impact that a few seconds of innocent distraction can gave on others. It would then become socially unacceptable.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Besides, you can't fail and I.Q. test. You score high , average or low.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

They say most abusers were once abused themselves.. there is an argument that it breaks the cycle of abuse.... but so does locking them up indefinitely. Unfortunately the life for rapists argument is just likely to turn a rapist into a murderer.. no witness to get you a life sentence...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Id like the death penalty back.

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By *tockingsnsuspenders1960Couple over a year ago

somewhere in south yorks

Caught once using a mobile instant ban for 12 months, these people really get on my tits when i see them using a mobile

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They say most abusers were once abused themselves.. there is an argument that it breaks the cycle of abuse.... but so does locking them up indefinitely. Unfortunately the life for rapists argument is just likely to turn a rapist into a murderer.. no witness to get you a life sentence... "

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

oops. I'd make it legal to have t.v. broadcasts without a licence.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Apparently in Glasgow.......... It's still illegal to tie your goat to a lampost.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Legalise all drugs and criminalise alcohol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Restrict voting rights to those holding a Masters or equivalent or higher.

Reading the tabloids or getting your news from Facebook would also get you banned from voting.

What happens if you give everyone a vote?

On 23/6/16 a National IQ test was taken by 72% of the British population. Failure rate 51.9%.

If we had a referendum on the death penalty it'd probably get voted back.

Sadly we are no longer capable of rational thought as a country.

Firstly, I'm pleased for you. All that and yet modest and grounded.

I'd rather return to an absolute monarchy. If you submit to mob rule you're quickly going to end up fucked. Further to this people's online behaviour now reinforces existing political beliefs, Facebook and Google serve you what you want to hear based on previous browsing history and likes. Our electorate only expose themselves to news and thought that aligns with pre-held beliefs. Anything that would challenge those beliefs is filtered out. We lose the ability to think critically because we no longer see the other point of _iew. And thusly our voting habits can be undermined. Ergo take away the vote and give all the power to someone like prince William who wouldn't want it anyway.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"oops. I'd make it legal to have t.v. broadcasts without a licence. "

I'd almost say it is a human right to have any broadcasting system..not saying it means having the the biggest n best..

access to news/politics/education could effectively be built into everyones home.For free.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"oops. I'd make it legal to have t.v. broadcasts without a licence.

I'd almost say it is a human right to have any broadcasting system..not saying it means having the the biggest n best..

access to news/politics/education could effectively be built into everyones home.For free."

The older I get the less I trust the media Paddy. It's trying to form my opinions for me. Tool of the state.

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By *LCCCouple over a year ago

Cambridge

"Caught once using a mobile instant ban for 12 months, these people really get on my tits when i see them using a mobile

Not even whilst driving? Wow that is harsh!

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By *axandbooCouple over a year ago

Bristol

Just one? So many need changing.

Driving laws need to reflect the crime

Prison should be hard time not rent free accommodation.

If i could change just one.....the government will be held accountable for crimes committed....with that law in place the houses of parliament would be empty

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By *adyGardenWoman over a year ago

LONDON (se)

"I started my adult working life with an engineering Modern Apprenticeship, moving onward to being a highly specialised technician. On redundancy I did various things until becoming my own boss. Now a multi-award winning businessman, a chairman of a regional volunteer organisation, a panel member responsible for town rejuvenation. Guess what? No degree, nevermind a Masters. I find your post quite degrading, and hardly the thoughts of someone I trust with voting... But, we give the vote to all those old enough. It is democracy, and you're entitled to your opinion."

Well done you on your achievements. Hard work and determination is what it takes for a successful life.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I would make eating cheese after midnight illegal

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By *tockingsnsuspenders1960Couple over a year ago

somewhere in south yorks

"Caught once using a mobile instant ban for 12 months, these people really get on my tits when i see them using a mobile

Not even whilst driving? Wow that is harsh! "
Nooooooo while they are driving lol!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"oops. I'd make it legal to have t.v. broadcasts without a licence.

I'd almost say it is a human right to have any broadcasting system..not saying it means having the the biggest n best..

access to news/politics/education could effectively be built into everyones home.For free.

The older I get the less I trust the media Paddy. It's trying to form my opinions for me. Tool of the state. "

lets change the world together babe

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Ban shops from displaying Christmas shit at this time of year "

All the yes to this

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Loosen up gun laws and introduce a USA style Second Amendment Constitution referring to the right to keep and bear arms"

The 2nd Amendment in the American constitution was added in case the country was invaded by a foreign power or their elected Government became corrupt and needed overthrowing... it was nothing to do with people walking around with fully automatic handguns but are unable to tell us where Iraq or Iran are.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Bring back Turnips instead of Pumpkins at Halloween.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yep. And since they tightened up the gun laws in this country, gun crime has stopped altogether hasn't it????? No, it just penalised legitimate sportsmen and ruined a whole industry. "

Im pretty sure we havent had any Dunblane style tragedies since ... Whereas the usa have school shootings on a regular basis

so did it eridicate all crime ... No nothing ever will ... But if it saved some kids from a psycho id say its a pretty good law

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Restrict voting rights to those holding a Masters or equivalent or higher.

Reading the tabloids or getting your news from Facebook would also get you banned from voting.

What happens if you give everyone a vote?

On 23/6/16 a National IQ test was taken by 72% of the British population. Failure rate 51.9%.

If we had a referendum on the death penalty it'd probably get voted back.

Sadly we are no longer capable of rational thought as a country.

Hmm... so if I say had a masters degree in art that would give me the right to vote, yet someone who is still studying politics wouldn't have the same right???

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Bring back Turnips instead of Pumpkins at Halloween."

Some parts of the country still do haha

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"oops. I'd make it legal to have t.v. broadcasts without a licence.

I'd almost say it is a human right to have any broadcasting system..not saying it means having the the biggest n best..

access to news/politics/education could effectively be built into everyones home.For free.

The older I get the less I trust the media Paddy. It's trying to form my opinions for me. Tool of the state.

lets change the world together babe

We could start our own radio station but the bastards would 'accidentally' sink our ship.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Restrict voting rights to those holding a Masters or equivalent or higher.

Reading the tabloids or getting your news from Facebook would also get you banned from voting.

What happens if you give everyone a vote?

On 23/6/16 a National IQ test was taken by 72% of the British population. Failure rate 51.9%.

If we had a referendum on the death penalty it'd probably get voted back.

Sadly we are no longer capable of rational thought as a country.

Firstly, I'm pleased for you. All that and yet modest and grounded.

I agree with the watering-down of our thoughts, by the reduction of news and the celebration of celebrity. The news-by-social-media thing is awful, and with the recent issues of the Facebook editing of war photography, highlights the overall power of the edit. Do the citizens demand the real news though, or they only have interest in X-factor?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Restrict voting rights to those holding a Masters or equivalent or higher.

Reading the tabloids or getting your news from Facebook would also get you banned from voting.

What happens if you give everyone a vote?

On 23/6/16 a National IQ test was taken by 72% of the British population. Failure rate 51.9%.

If we had a referendum on the death penalty it'd probably get voted back.

Sadly we are no longer capable of rational thought as a country.

Hmm... so if I say had a masters degree in art that would give me the right to vote, yet someone who is still studying politics wouldn't have the same right??? "

Yes but you have to do your cross in italic with a quill ..........

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By *bsinthe_boyMan over a year ago

Luton

I would add protection for swingers/polyamorous/non-monogamous people into employment and discrimination law.

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By *rKinkedKuntMan over a year ago

Sheffield

Anyone caught touching their phone in a car while driving receives an instant 30 day ban

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Make the rights of the many override the rights of the individual

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Restrict voting rights to those holding a Masters or equivalent or higher.

Reading the tabloids or getting your news from Facebook would also get you banned from voting.

What happens if you give everyone a vote?

On 23/6/16 a National IQ test was taken by 72% of the British population. Failure rate 51.9%.

If we had a referendum on the death penalty it'd probably get voted back.

Sadly we are no longer capable of rational thought as a country.

Hmm... so if I say had a masters degree in art that would give me the right to vote, yet someone who is still studying politics wouldn't have the same right???

Yes but you have to do your cross in italic with a quill .........."

Shouldn't be too difficult with a masters in art.. now where's my quill...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Caught drink driving once, banned for 5 years

Banned twice: life ban"
.

Research shows that using your phone whether hands free or not gives you about the same responses as a d*unk driver!.

Now they estimate that only about 0.6% of drivers will drink drive regularly however phone usage is at epidemic levels...

Given this data I'd rather see phone users banned for life than drink drivers.... Obviously both would be better but I've only got one law

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'd outlaw warning labels and let natural selection sort out the intelligence of the human race

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By *rKinkedKuntMan over a year ago

Sheffield

"Loosen up gun laws and introduce a USA style Second Amendment Constitution referring to the right to keep and bear arms"

I think for a safe bet we should day if the Americans think it's final and legal it should be immediately made illegal here. They are not good role models.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

People coming into this country to have upto 2 children only... Anymore no handouts.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Bring back Turnips instead of Pumpkins at Halloween.

Some parts of the country still do "

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By *etter the devil you knowWoman over a year ago

Lyndhurst

"People coming into this country to have upto 2 children only... Anymore no handouts. "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Bring back Turnips instead of Pumpkins at Halloween."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"People coming into this country to have upto 2 children only... Anymore no handouts. "

What about those who were born here and have multiple children by multiple fathers?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Anyone caught touching their phone in a car while driving receives an instant 30 day ban"
maybe car manufacturers should put a mobile phone blocking device in all new cars

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Anyone caught touching their phone in a car while driving receives an instant 30 day banmaybe car manufacturers should put a mobile phone blocking device in all new cars

I'd thought of that but what about passengers?

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By *verysmileMan over a year ago

Canterbury

Ban unsolicited marketing phone calls.

1. No I do not have PPI

2. I have not had an accident.

3. I am not in need of a financial re_iew.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Ban unsolicited marketing phone calls.

1. No I do not have PPI

2. I have not had an accident.

3. I am not in need of a financial re_iew."

But then my phone would never ring and I'd have nobody to talk to

ess

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Conscription re introduced for ALL for 12 months.

Mwah

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Ban unsolicited marketing phone calls.

1. No I do not have PPI

2. I have not had an accident.

3. I am not in need of a financial re_iew."

while it might be an unsolicited call..I've helped hundreds of people who didn't know that they could receive help..instead of being in a worsening situation, I'll agree the data collected should be from a decent source at least.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Conscription re introduced for ALL for 12 months.

Mwah

you can fuck that right of your head thanks.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yep. And since they tightened up the gun laws in this country, gun crime has stopped altogether hasn't it????? No, it just penalised legitimate sportsmen and ruined a whole industry.

Im pretty sure we havent had any Dunblane style tragedies since ... Whereas the usa have school shootings on a regular basis

so did it eridicate all crime ... No nothing ever will ... But if it saved some kids from a psycho id say its a pretty good law "

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By *eovilcouple76Couple over a year ago

yeovil

Yep. And since they tightened up the gun laws in this country, gun crime has stopped altogether hasn't it????? No, it just penalised legitimate sportsmen and ruined a whole industry.

Im pretty sure we havent had any Dunblane style tragedies since ... Whereas the usa have school shootings on a regular basis

so did it eridicate all crime ... No nothing ever will ... But if it saved some kids from a psycho id say its a pretty good law

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yep. And since they tightened up the gun laws in this country, gun crime has stopped altogether hasn't it????? No, it just penalised legitimate sportsmen and ruined a whole industry.

Im pretty sure we havent had any Dunblane style tragedies since ... Whereas the usa have school shootings on a regular basis

so did it eridicate all crime ... No nothing ever will ... But if it saved some kids from a psycho id say its a pretty good law

And as a bloke proved weeks after Dunblane, you can take a machete or knife and do some pretty nasty shit. What now?? Ban knives??? I'm pretty sure that the 84 people killed recently in Nice didn't die of gunshot wounds did they? Gun legislation stops absolutely nothing. But let's just wrap everyone up in cotton wool and get rid of everything that you can harm someone else with. Get your head out the clouds. "
stop being a tw@ guns are made to do one thing and one thing only if some nutter wants to jump in a truck and run people over your not going to stop that mentality. You can make guns illegal and it makes it harder for someone to walk into a school with an assault rifle and kill everyone in sight I could kill you with a pencil your argument is pathetic guns are designed to kill its that simple

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Proportional representation in all elections and referendums.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I would change assisted suicide laws, fine that we don't offer assisted suicide in this country as its such s woolly area and debate that the bills put through the House of Commons are too vague and wouldn't achieve much anyway.

However don't make it illegal for someone to accompany someone to dignitas. Yes they have had cases thrown out of court recently but for people who are morning it shouldn't even get that far.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"...and castration.

Without meaning to diverge from the topic of the thread, you would sincerely advocate for genital mutilation as a form of justice?

.. .Just my own personel opinion as others have in the thread."
i totally agree with castration for peados no pain relief and use a rusty spoon

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Conscription re introduced for ALL for 12 months.

Mwah

But not the over sixties

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have changed my mind,

Cheese is now legal

Sexual put downs is now an illegal act

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Loosen up gun laws and introduce a USA style Second Amendment Constitution referring to the right to keep and bear arms"

Yeah that would be a great idea!

And end up with American style problems over here ie everyone getting shot all the time...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Everybody needs ID cards.

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By *lanemikeMan over a year ago

Bolton

"...and castration.

Without meaning to diverge from the topic of the thread, you would sincerely advocate for genital mutilation as a form of justice?

.. .Just my own personel opinion as others have in the thread. i totally agree with castration for peados no pain relief and use a rusty spoon "

That is not a change in the law, it just violence .....

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By *lanemikeMan over a year ago

Bolton

"Everybody needs ID cards."

What for...?? I don't need one...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I would make chav behaviour illegal. Including acting like a gangsta with that bouncy walk the little cretins do

The sentance would be national service for ten years

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I would make chav behaviour illegal. Including acting like a gangsta with that bouncy walk the little cretins do

The sentance would be national service for ten years"
and that stupid voice they do (are you dizzy blood) ANNOYING

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By *obbytupperMan over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

"oops. I'd make it legal to have t.v. broadcasts without a licence.

I'd almost say it is a human right to have any broadcasting system..not saying it means having the the biggest n best..

access to news/politics/education could effectively be built into everyones home.For free.

The older I get the less I trust the media Paddy. It's trying to form my opinions for me. Tool of the state. "

Which is why Rupert Murdoch is a very dangerous individual.

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By *ngel n tedCouple over a year ago

maidstone

Personally i'd like to be able to carry a plank of wood along a pavement

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By *eovilcouple76Couple over a year ago

yeovil

Yep. And since they tightened up the gun laws in this country, gun crime has stopped altogether hasn't it????? No, it just penalised legitimate sportsmen and ruined a whole industry.

Im pretty sure we havent had any Dunblane style tragedies since ... Whereas the usa have school shootings on a regular basis

so did it eridicate all crime ... No nothing ever will ... But if it saved some kids from a psycho id say its a pretty good law

And as a bloke proved weeks after Dunblane, you can take a machete or knife and do some pretty nasty shit. What now?? Ban knives??? I'm pretty sure that the 84 people killed recently in Nice didn't die of gunshot wounds did they? Gun legislation stops absolutely nothing. But let's just wrap everyone up in cotton wool and get rid of everything that you can harm someone else with. Get your head out the clouds. stop being a tw@ guns are made to do one thing and one thing only if some nutter wants to jump in a truck and run people over your not going to stop that mentality. You can make guns illegal and it makes it harder for someone to walk into a school with an assault rifle and kill everyone in sight I could kill you with a pencil your argument is pathetic guns are designed to kill its that simple"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Ban children from pubs, have family rooms instead like they used to."

I'd definitely go for that one - nothing worse than a pub full of ferrell rats. In my book, pubs are for adults and adults only.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

Yep. And since they tightened up the gun laws in this country, gun crime has stopped altogether hasn't it????? No, it just penalised legitimate sportsmen and ruined a whole industry. "

If you desire to become more like the USA, where illegal gun use, murders etc are out of control, then I despair.

Keep gun use and ownership restrained. The USA would be better moving towards the system and use levels that we have here. A race to the bottom is not in society's interest.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

"Everybody needs ID cards."

There's no need, unless there's some super state machinery that wishes to monitor and manage its citizens.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yep. And since they tightened up the gun laws in this country, gun crime has stopped altogether hasn't it????? No, it just penalised legitimate sportsmen and ruined a whole industry.

Im pretty sure we havent had any Dunblane style tragedies since ... Whereas the usa have school shootings on a regular basis

so did it eridicate all crime ... No nothing ever will ... But if it saved some kids from a psycho id say its a pretty good law

And as a bloke proved weeks after Dunblane, you can take a machete or knife and do some pretty nasty shit. What now?? Ban knives??? I'm pretty sure that the 84 people killed recently in Nice didn't die of gunshot wounds did they? Gun legislation stops absolutely nothing. But let's just wrap everyone up in cotton wool and get rid of everything that you can harm someone else with. Get your head out the clouds. stop being a tw@ guns are made to do one thing and one thing only if some nutter wants to jump in a truck and run people over your not going to stop that mentality. You can make guns illegal and it makes it harder for someone to walk into a school with an assault rifle and kill everyone in sight I could kill you with a pencil your argument is pathetic guns are designed to kill its that simple

But the problem with America is that unsafe people are being allowed access to guns!!

Can't actually believe that has to be explained to you

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By *lanemikeMan over a year ago

Bolton

Yep. And since they tightened up the gun laws in this country, gun crime has stopped altogether hasn't it????? No, it just penalised legitimate sportsmen and ruined a whole industry.

If you desire to become more like the USA, where illegal gun use, murders etc are out of control, then I despair.

Keep gun use and ownership restrained. The USA would be better moving towards the system and use levels that we have here. A race to the bottom is not in society's interest."

Agree 100%, just can't see why many Americans cannot see it. By and large Europe is gun free and a better place for it....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yep. And since they tightened up the gun laws in this country, gun crime has stopped altogether hasn't it????? No, it just penalised legitimate sportsmen and ruined a whole industry.

Im pretty sure we havent had any Dunblane style tragedies since ... Whereas the usa have school shootings on a regular basis

so did it eridicate all crime ... No nothing ever will ... But if it saved some kids from a psycho id say its a pretty good law

And as a bloke proved weeks after Dunblane, you can take a machete or knife and do some pretty nasty shit. What now?? Ban knives??? I'm pretty sure that the 84 people killed recently in Nice didn't die of gunshot wounds did they? Gun legislation stops absolutely nothing. But let's just wrap everyone up in cotton wool and get rid of everything that you can harm someone else with. Get your head out the clouds. stop being a tw@ guns are made to do one thing and one thing only if some nutter wants to jump in a truck and run people over your not going to stop that mentality. You can make guns illegal and it makes it harder for someone to walk into a school with an assault rifle and kill everyone in sight I could kill you with a pencil your argument is pathetic guns are designed to kill its that simple

A gun is a tool, nothing else. Put a gun on the table and it won't jump up and shoot someone. It takes a PERSON to do that. Not going to argue with someone who obviously believes all the hype and media shit about guns being bad. Have fun trying to kill people with your pencil. "
you really are a simpleton guns were designed by man to kill another person its a weapon of war yes it takes a person to pull the trigger but would you really want guns legalized with all the shit that's going on in the world right now then throw in all the weirdo's with a grudge against society. If your so bothered move to columbine in the US or port Arthur in OZ put your _iews across to some of the thousands of relatives of those killed in massacres my dad was shot dead in Northern Ireland while on duty for his country.

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By *amslam1000Man over a year ago

willenhall

"Tighten up animal cruelty laws ,so people do actually get punished.

Miss"

make sure that the RSPCA is audited and accountable there has been some terrible stories in the press lately "like destroying an old lady cats when she was in hospital and had paid for them to be looked after"

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By *amslam1000Man over a year ago

willenhall

"Everybody needs ID cards.

There's no need, unless there's some super state machinery that wishes to monitor and manage its citizens. "

There is now!! all of us need to be equal in the eyes of the law.

I have seen some stories in the press of groups of illegals using 1 guys identity

if we all can prove who we are, the dodgy ones have no where to hide.

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By *amslam1000Man over a year ago

willenhall

"Ban shops from displaying Christmas shit at this time of year

xmas 3 weeks before to make it more magical for the kiddies

halloween stuff 2 weeks max before

Valentines start of feb

easter eggs well after valentines day not in the bloody shops next to the xmas choccies

hot x buns are for easter not bloody xmas

Theres more but i'm ranting now so going for a cuppa

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yep. And since they tightened up the gun laws in this country, gun crime has stopped altogether hasn't it????? No, it just penalised legitimate sportsmen and ruined a whole industry.

Im pretty sure we havent had any Dunblane style tragedies since ... Whereas the usa have school shootings on a regular basis

so did it eridicate all crime ... No nothing ever will ... But if it saved some kids from a psycho id say its a pretty good law

And as a bloke proved weeks after Dunblane, you can take a machete or knife and do some pretty nasty shit. What now?? Ban knives??? I'm pretty sure that the 84 people killed recently in Nice didn't die of gunshot wounds did they? Gun legislation stops absolutely nothing. But let's just wrap everyone up in cotton wool and get rid of everything that you can harm someone else with. Get your head out the clouds. stop being a tw@ guns are made to do one thing and one thing only if some nutter wants to jump in a truck and run people over your not going to stop that mentality. You can make guns illegal and it makes it harder for someone to walk into a school with an assault rifle and kill everyone in sight I could kill you with a pencil your argument is pathetic guns are designed to kill its that simple

But the problem with America is that unsafe people are being allowed access to guns!!

Can't actually believe that has to be explained to you "

The more guns there are available the more there are that can be stolen or slip into the underground market which would make the UK far more unsafe. The best way for the least amount of unsafe people to be able to get guns is for the minimum amount of guns to be out there

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yep. And since they tightened up the gun laws in this country, gun crime has stopped altogether hasn't it????? No, it just penalised legitimate sportsmen and ruined a whole industry.

Im pretty sure we havent had any Dunblane style tragedies since ... Whereas the usa have school shootings on a regular basis

so did it eridicate all crime ... No nothing ever will ... But if it saved some kids from a psycho id say its a pretty good law

And as a bloke proved weeks after Dunblane, you can take a machete or knife and do some pretty nasty shit. What now?? Ban knives??? I'm pretty sure that the 84 people killed recently in Nice didn't die of gunshot wounds did they? Gun legislation stops absolutely nothing. But let's just wrap everyone up in cotton wool and get rid of everything that you can harm someone else with. Get your head out the clouds. stop being a tw@ guns are made to do one thing and one thing only if some nutter wants to jump in a truck and run people over your not going to stop that mentality. You can make guns illegal and it makes it harder for someone to walk into a school with an assault rifle and kill everyone in sight I could kill you with a pencil your argument is pathetic guns are designed to kill its that simple

But the problem with America is that unsafe people are being allowed access to guns!!

Can't actually believe that has to be explained to you

If guns are kept and stored in line with the current legislation there should be no/minimal theft of firearms as they must be locked away when not in use and must never be left unattended

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yep. And since they tightened up the gun laws in this country, gun crime has stopped altogether hasn't it????? No, it just penalised legitimate sportsmen and ruined a whole industry.

Im pretty sure we havent had any Dunblane style tragedies since ... Whereas the usa have school shootings on a regular basis

so did it eridicate all crime ... No nothing ever will ... But if it saved some kids from a psycho id say its a pretty good law

And as a bloke proved weeks after Dunblane, you can take a machete or knife and do some pretty nasty shit. What now?? Ban knives??? I'm pretty sure that the 84 people killed recently in Nice didn't die of gunshot wounds did they? Gun legislation stops absolutely nothing. But let's just wrap everyone up in cotton wool and get rid of everything that you can harm someone else with. Get your head out the clouds. stop being a tw@ guns are made to do one thing and one thing only if some nutter wants to jump in a truck and run people over your not going to stop that mentality. You can make guns illegal and it makes it harder for someone to walk into a school with an assault rifle and kill everyone in sight I could kill you with a pencil your argument is pathetic guns are designed to kill its that simple

But the problem with America is that unsafe people are being allowed access to guns!!

Can't actually believe that has to be explained to you

If guns are kept and stored in line with the current legislation there should be no/minimal theft of firearms as they must be locked away when not in use and must never be left unattended "

So what's your reason for wanting guns?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yep. And since they tightened up the gun laws in this country, gun crime has stopped altogether hasn't it????? No, it just penalised legitimate sportsmen and ruined a whole industry.

Im pretty sure we havent had any Dunblane style tragedies since ... Whereas the usa have school shootings on a regular basis

so did it eridicate all crime ... No nothing ever will ... But if it saved some kids from a psycho id say its a pretty good law

And as a bloke proved weeks after Dunblane, you can take a machete or knife and do some pretty nasty shit. What now?? Ban knives??? I'm pretty sure that the 84 people killed recently in Nice didn't die of gunshot wounds did they? Gun legislation stops absolutely nothing. But let's just wrap everyone up in cotton wool and get rid of everything that you can harm someone else with. Get your head out the clouds. stop being a tw@ guns are made to do one thing and one thing only if some nutter wants to jump in a truck and run people over your not going to stop that mentality. You can make guns illegal and it makes it harder for someone to walk into a school with an assault rifle and kill everyone in sight I could kill you with a pencil your argument is pathetic guns are designed to kill its that simple

But the problem with America is that unsafe people are being allowed access to guns!!

Can't actually believe that has to be explained to you

If guns are kept and stored in line with the current legislation there should be no/minimal theft of firearms as they must be locked away when not in use and must never be left unattended "

And everybody follows the rules all of the time eh

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yep. And since they tightened up the gun laws in this country, gun crime has stopped altogether hasn't it????? No, it just penalised legitimate sportsmen and ruined a whole industry.

Im pretty sure we havent had any Dunblane style tragedies since ... Whereas the usa have school shootings on a regular basis

so did it eridicate all crime ... No nothing ever will ... But if it saved some kids from a psycho id say its a pretty good law

And as a bloke proved weeks after Dunblane, you can take a machete or knife and do some pretty nasty shit. What now?? Ban knives??? I'm pretty sure that the 84 people killed recently in Nice didn't die of gunshot wounds did they? Gun legislation stops absolutely nothing. But let's just wrap everyone up in cotton wool and get rid of everything that you can harm someone else with. Get your head out the clouds. stop being a tw@ guns are made to do one thing and one thing only if some nutter wants to jump in a truck and run people over your not going to stop that mentality. You can make guns illegal and it makes it harder for someone to walk into a school with an assault rifle and kill everyone in sight I could kill you with a pencil your argument is pathetic guns are designed to kill its that simple

But the problem with America is that unsafe people are being allowed access to guns!!

Can't actually believe that has to be explained to you

If guns are kept and stored in line with the current legislation there should be no/minimal theft of firearms as they must be locked away when not in use and must never be left unattended

So what's your reason for wanting guns?"

My reason for wanting guns is for recreational activities

My reason for needing guns is they are part of my employment

I'd also like to reiterate that our current system is fine

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yep. And since they tightened up the gun laws in this country, gun crime has stopped altogether hasn't it????? No, it just penalised legitimate sportsmen and ruined a whole industry.

Im pretty sure we havent had any Dunblane style tragedies since ... Whereas the usa have school shootings on a regular basis

so did it eridicate all crime ... No nothing ever will ... But if it saved some kids from a psycho id say its a pretty good law

And as a bloke proved weeks after Dunblane, you can take a machete or knife and do some pretty nasty shit. What now?? Ban knives??? I'm pretty sure that the 84 people killed recently in Nice didn't die of gunshot wounds did they? Gun legislation stops absolutely nothing. But let's just wrap everyone up in cotton wool and get rid of everything that you can harm someone else with. Get your head out the clouds. stop being a tw@ guns are made to do one thing and one thing only if some nutter wants to jump in a truck and run people over your not going to stop that mentality. You can make guns illegal and it makes it harder for someone to walk into a school with an assault rifle and kill everyone in sight I could kill you with a pencil your argument is pathetic guns are designed to kill its that simple

But the problem with America is that unsafe people are being allowed access to guns!!

Can't actually believe that has to be explained to you

If guns are kept and stored in line with the current legislation there should be no/minimal theft of firearms as they must be locked away when not in use and must never be left unattended

And everybody follows the rules all of the time eh

Well if they are a responsible gun owner and want to keep the privilege of being allowed to be a gun owner then yes they do

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Ban shops from displaying Christmas shit at this time of year

xmas 3 weeks before to make it more magical for the kiddies

halloween stuff 2 weeks max before

Valentines start of feb

easter eggs well after valentines day not in the bloody shops next to the xmas choccies

hot x buns are for easter not bloody xmas

Theres more but i'm ranting now so going for a cuppa"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yep. And since they tightened up the gun laws in this country, gun crime has stopped altogether hasn't it????? No, it just penalised legitimate sportsmen and ruined a whole industry.

Im pretty sure we havent had any Dunblane style tragedies since ... Whereas the usa have school shootings on a regular basis

so did it eridicate all crime ... No nothing ever will ... But if it saved some kids from a psycho id say its a pretty good law

And as a bloke proved weeks after Dunblane, you can take a machete or knife and do some pretty nasty shit. What now?? Ban knives??? I'm pretty sure that the 84 people killed recently in Nice didn't die of gunshot wounds did they? Gun legislation stops absolutely nothing. But let's just wrap everyone up in cotton wool and get rid of everything that you can harm someone else with. Get your head out the clouds. stop being a tw@ guns are made to do one thing and one thing only if some nutter wants to jump in a truck and run people over your not going to stop that mentality. You can make guns illegal and it makes it harder for someone to walk into a school with an assault rifle and kill everyone in sight I could kill you with a pencil your argument is pathetic guns are designed to kill its that simple"

Thanks for that wonderful advice, I guess The Olympic program of the Shooting Sports had their fingers in their ears when you spouted that nonsense off, or perhaps they are not members of fab

You are aware of the disciplines for rifle, pistol & shotgun in Olympics? perhaps not.

And in todays news, the UK has no army capable of defending itself in a major attack, true, even our soldiers are inexperienced in the handling of firearms, same as our police and even police firearms inspectors have limited experience of handling firearms which is laughable

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Build roman style colosseums, gladiators vs peadofiles,rapists and anyone who still watches big brother

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yep. And since they tightened up the gun laws in this country, gun crime has stopped altogether hasn't it????? No, it just penalised legitimate sportsmen and ruined a whole industry.

Im pretty sure we havent had any Dunblane style tragedies since ... Whereas the usa have school shootings on a regular basis

so did it eridicate all crime ... No nothing ever will ... But if it saved some kids from a psycho id say its a pretty good law

And as a bloke proved weeks after Dunblane, you can take a machete or knife and do some pretty nasty shit. What now?? Ban knives??? I'm pretty sure that the 84 people killed recently in Nice didn't die of gunshot wounds did they? Gun legislation stops absolutely nothing. But let's just wrap everyone up in cotton wool and get rid of everything that you can harm someone else with. Get your head out the clouds. stop being a tw@ guns are made to do one thing and one thing only if some nutter wants to jump in a truck and run people over your not going to stop that mentality. You can make guns illegal and it makes it harder for someone to walk into a school with an assault rifle and kill everyone in sight I could kill you with a pencil your argument is pathetic guns are designed to kill its that simple

Thanks for that wonderful advice, I guess The Olympic program of the Shooting Sports had their fingers in their ears when you spouted that nonsense off, or perhaps they are not members of fab

You are aware of the disciplines for rifle, pistol & shotgun in Olympics? perhaps not.

Are you not aware that, relatively speaking, shooting sports are a fairly new addition to the Olympics and that the disciplines therein are a recreation of what would originally have been hunting (killing animals etc)

With regards to the police comment, I think in the current climate where the police force is getting hit with cuts all over the place and are struggling to keep the whole force in employment, they need to focus money and resources on the higher priority/likelihood subjects, which a major, large scale invasion of the UK is not.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"you really are a simpleton guns were designed by man to kill another person its a weapon of war yes it takes a person to pull the trigger but *****would you really want guns legalized *****with all the shit that's going on in the world right now then throw in all the weirdo's with a grudge against society. If your so bothered move to columbine in the US or port Arthur in OZ put your _iews across to some of the thousands of relatives of those killed in massacres my dad was shot dead in Northern Ireland while on duty for his country."

*****You do realise, rifles, handguns and shotguns are legal in the UK right now, today******?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Australia pre the 1996 Port Arthur massacre had 11 similar events since the stricter gun legislation put in place after those 36 people died there has been nothing similar to happen. In fact gun crime deaths have been regularly in the single figures per year since. Also a gun on the black market in Australia now costs $15,000 dollars which makes it very unlikely someone is going to rob your house over selling the gun if they needed cash.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If you consider the year 1896 " a fairly new addition to the Olympics" then lol yes I guess you are right

but I consider 1896 a fair long history for shooting to be involved in the Olympics

I am also glad you feel nice and safely wrapped up in cotton wool that you consider an invasion of the UK an impossible risk

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If you consider the year 1896 " a fairly new addition to the Olympics" then lol yes I guess you are right

but I consider 1896 a fair long history for shooting to be involved in the Olympics

I am also glad you feel nice and safely wrapped up in cotton wool that you consider an invasion of the UK an impossible risk

You do realise if the UK were to be invaded (very slim chance who would want our little island in these times) it would be from the air not on the ground.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

*****You do realise, rifles, handguns and shotguns are legal in the UK right now, today******?

With the correct background checks and licensing

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If you consider the year 1896 " a fairly new addition to the Olympics" then lol yes I guess you are right

but I consider 1896 a fair long history for shooting to be involved in the Olympics

I am also glad you feel nice and safely wrapped up in cotton wool that you consider an invasion of the UK an impossible risk

You do realise if the UK were to be invaded (very slim chance who would want our little island in these times) it would be from the air not on the ground."

The concern today, and it's not a new concern, it's been emerging over the last few years, is the re-emergence of Russia, of China, and the need to be capable of fighting a conventional war in the old style sense, as opposed to those in Iraq, Afghanistan and counter-terrorism

Manpower in all three services was dangerously squeezed and Navy ships and RAF planes had become used to depending on US support

have a nice day now

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If you consider the year 1896 " a fairly new addition to the Olympics" then lol yes I guess you are right

but I consider 1896 a fair long history for shooting to be involved in the Olympics

I am also glad you feel nice and safely wrapped up in cotton wool that you consider an invasion of the UK an impossible risk

Well if you compare it to the start of the Olympics during Greek times then yes it is fairly recent, hence me saying "relatively speaking"

Also, please just highlight for me where I said it was an impossible risk? I believe I called it a lower priority/likelihood that other things...

If you are just going to fabricate things and change what others are saying I would say a discussion with you it's pretty much pointless

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

*****You do realise, rifles, handguns and shotguns are legal in the UK right now, today******?

With the correct background checks and licensing "

yes, "every 5 years"

and little change can happen within 5 years, and background checks, what checks are these?

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By *imetoexplore69Couple over a year ago

Aberdeen

"...and castration.

Without meaning to diverge from the topic of the thread, you would sincerely advocate for genital mutilation as a form of justice?

"
there is a chemical castration option.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

*****You do realise, rifles, handguns and shotguns are legal in the UK right now, today******?

With the correct background checks and licensing

yes, "every 5 years"

and little change can happen within 5 years, and background checks, what checks are these?"

Licenses are re_iewed and renewed every 5 years however whenever you are stopped by the police/arrested and your name is put through their computer, they are notified that you are a licensed firearm holder. If you are arrested/convicted of anything, chances are they will be round to at least take any firearms away temporarily if not permanently

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If you consider the year 1896 " a fairly new addition to the Olympics" then lol yes I guess you are right

but I consider 1896 a fair long history for shooting to be involved in the Olympics

I am also glad you feel nice and safely wrapped up in cotton wool that you consider an invasion of the UK an impossible risk

Well if you compare it to the start of the Olympics during Greek times then yes it is fairly recent, hence me saying "relatively speaking"

Also, please just highlight for me where I said it was an impossible risk? I believe I called it a lower priority/likelihood that other things...

If you are just going to fabricate things and change what others are saying I would say a discussion with you it's pretty much pointless "

Do you also believe in the Greek god Zeus? since you are going back to the Greek times?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

In the words of Eddie izzard "guns don't kill people, people kill people, and so do monkeys... if they have a gun" he also said... "this tray is wet, this tray is wet, this tray is wet... where'd you dry these, In a fucking rain Forrest?" Ess

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If you consider the year 1896 " a fairly new addition to the Olympics" then lol yes I guess you are right

but I consider 1896 a fair long history for shooting to be involved in the Olympics

I am also glad you feel nice and safely wrapped up in cotton wool that you consider an invasion of the UK an impossible risk

You do realise if the UK were to be invaded (very slim chance who would want our little island in these times) it would be from the air not on the ground.

Manpower in all three services was dangerously squeezed and Navy ships and RAF planes had become used to depending on US support

have a nice day now

So a few members of the public with handguns would make a difference?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If you consider the year 1896 " a fairly new addition to the Olympics" then lol yes I guess you are right

but I consider 1896 a fair long history for shooting to be involved in the Olympics

I am also glad you feel nice and safely wrapped up in cotton wool that you consider an invasion of the UK an impossible risk

Well if you compare it to the start of the Olympics during Greek times then yes it is fairly recent, hence me saying "relatively speaking"

Also, please just highlight for me where I said it was an impossible risk? I believe I called it a lower priority/likelihood that other things...

If you are just going to fabricate things and change what others are saying I would say a discussion with you it's pretty much pointless

Do you also believe in the Greek god Zeus? since you are going back to the Greek times?

Oh wow now it would seem that rational and relevant thoughts are in short supply so flippant and pointless is now the order of the day!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Licenses are re_iewed and renewed every 5 years however whenever you are stopped by the police/arrested and your name is put through their computer, they are notified that you are a licensed firearm holder. If you are arrested/convicted of anything, chances are they will be round to at least take any firearms away temporarily if not permanently "

I am fully aware of the law and requirements for holding a firearm, whether it be for target shooting, stalking or employment and the majority of firearm holders in UK whether it be rifle, handgun or shotgun have not been arrested or are the involved in crime

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If you consider the year 1896 " a fairly new addition to the Olympics" then lol yes I guess you are right

but I consider 1896 a fair long history for shooting to be involved in the Olympics

I am also glad you feel nice and safely wrapped up in cotton wool that you consider an invasion of the UK an impossible risk

Well if you compare it to the start of the Olympics during Greek times then yes it is fairly recent, hence me saying "relatively speaking"

Also, please just highlight for me where I said it was an impossible risk? I believe I called it a lower priority/likelihood that other things...

If you are just going to fabricate things and change what others are saying I would say a discussion with you it's pretty much pointless

Do you also believe in the Greek god Zeus? since you are going back to the Greek times?

Oh wow now it would seem that rational and relevant thoughts are in short supply so flippant and pointless is now the order of the day! "

that's what it comes down to when you said you consider 1986 fairly recent, relatively speaking

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If you consider the year 1896 " a fairly new addition to the Olympics" then lol yes I guess you are right

but I consider 1896 a fair long history for shooting to be involved in the Olympics

I am also glad you feel nice and safely wrapped up in cotton wool that you consider an invasion of the UK an impossible risk

You do realise if the UK were to be invaded (very slim chance who would want our little island in these times) it would be from the air not on the ground.

Manpower in all three services was dangerously squeezed and Navy ships and RAF planes had become used to depending on US support

have a nice day now

So a few members of the public with handguns would make a difference?"

Wouldn't worry about it he's obviously some sort of dad's army Walter mitty lol

Don't panic, don't panic! Lol