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"it's a deep-seated rivalry, steeped in years of history and tradition. Much the same as newcastle/Sunderland, Man City/Utd...." Very true... I have two friends that live together and they are best of friends except during a match against these two teams... I am not a football fan... but am married to a Very proud Rangers fan... so will be keeping an eye on the result And hoping for a good result. Katie x | |||
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wooooo hoooo its foooooooooooty sunday
and i just cannnnt seeem to get enoooough of
do do do doo do do do doo
ive cursed it noo being too early wi that
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" mon tha hooooooooops
wooooo hoooo its foooooooooooty sunday
and i just cannnnt seeem to get enoooough of
do do do doo do do do doo
ive cursed it noo being too early wi that
enjoy the footy folks "lol, was waiting on you making an appearance | |||
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" both sets of fans are bigots. and its old, pathetic and most of the country are sick of hearing about it." yes its pathetic how SOME people behave but not ALL fans are bigots | |||
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"it's a deep-seated rivalry, steeped in years of history and tradition. Much the same as newcastle/Sunderland, Man City/Utd...." Correct me if I`m wrong but there are deep religeous overtones here too. Liverpool, Man Utd and Celtic are all "Catholic" while Everton, Man City and Rangers are "Protestant" which as a very much lapsed protestant, if I was ever religeous in the first place, put me in a bit of a dilemma! I "favour" Celtic and Liverpool but at least I`m on the "right side of the fence" with Man City! | |||
"why is it a rangers v celtic footy match is such a big deal when they play each other i mean its not like they play each other once in a blue moon is it they play about 10 times a yr ffs talk about football overkill its a bloody joke "Search You Tube for "Scotland's Secret Shame" by the BBC and you'll understand the poison that rises to the surface every time these teams meet. It's awful. | |||
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"it's a deep-seated rivalry, steeped in years of history and tradition. Much the same as newcastle/Sunderland, Man City/Utd.... Correct me if I`m wrong but there are deep religeous overtones here too. Liverpool, Man Utd and Celtic are all "Catholic" while Everton, Man City and Rangers are "Protestant" which as a very much lapsed protestant, if I was ever religeous in the first place, put me in a bit of a dilemma! I "favour" Celtic and Liverpool but at least I`m on the "right side of the fence" with Man City!" i find it sad that teams are perceived as being either protestant or catholic  | |||
" Search You Tube for "Scotland's Secret Shame" by the BBC and you'll understand the poison that rises to the surface every time these teams meet. It's awful." Nahh sarah, will just jump down the town later and rant AnadE here we go! here we go! here we go-o-o!!! | |||
 caused uproar when he moved from Celtic to Rangers or the other way around! Can`t remember which way he went! | |||
" i find it sad that teams are perceived as being either protestant or catholic "very sad and sad also they are percieved as great fotballing teams, they are shit!-and thats the cream of the crop...allegedly! | |||
"Older ones amongst us will remember that Mo Johnstone caused uproar when he moved from Celtic to Rangers or the other way around! Can`t remember which way he went!"think peopleused to spit on his pics on newspapers lol....imagine how distressing that musta been!!!-bloody idiots lol | |||
"Older ones amongst us will remember that Mo Johnstone caused uproar when he moved from Celtic to Rangers or the other way around! Can`t remember which way he went!"Mo Jonston was paraded at celtic park as a new signing when in fact he hadnt signed at all. he had previously played for celtic a few years earlier the rangers manager at the time graeme souness then rather cheekily signed mo after being tipped off by the players agent bill mcmurdo (a rangers fan) that no contract had been signed so he was in effect still a free agent | |||
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" i find it sad that teams are perceived as being either protestant or catholic
very sad and sad also they are percieved as great fotballing teams, they are shit!-and thats the cream of the crop...allegedly!"thats a matter of opinion i suppose.....ha ha they are historically the best in scotland.....hence the majority of footie fans will normally follow one or the other | |||
"Racism is prevalent throughout football Just come back from a tournament to commemorate the fire at Bradford city 26 years ago wherer a german under 14 team where playing Witnessed adults doing nazi salutes and when I asked them to stop was told to "fuck off german lover" I think racism is embedded in some elements of the people that call themselves football fans usually people who would best be called the dregs of society Today I was ashamed to be English " sme goes for players of colour(how PC lol), great when they winnin ya matches, derogitory comments when they make mistakes etc lol...worst racism I have ever seen is from eastern european fans during world cups-boooing when a person of colour touched the ball lol | |||
" thats a matter of opinion i suppose.....ha ha they are historically the best in scotland.....hence the majority of footie fans will normally follow one or the other" lol give me a stylish game from england or some foreign team anyday over an old firm match lol- ANYWAY, am tired of this thread and have decided I like ur wife, lets stop talking footie n talk about sex! | |||
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" both sets of fans are bigots. and its old, pathetic and most of the country are sick of hearing about it. yes its pathetic how SOME people behave but not ALL fans are bigots " so your saying i am a bigot then just because i support one of them | |||
rangers and celtic fans good natured can have a lot of good cheeky banter - and the fact remains both clubs need each other and because of each other both clubs have impressive histories in world football
sectarian hatred is easily identified between the two clubs but is a far wider spread issue caused by far larger things than football
rivalry and sectarian issues exists in many other clubs - check what goes on in holland and turkey - and my god south america is insane
football is one of the oldest games - based on the oldest set of rules - two tribes try to beat each other and match each other
again look at how sky sports show you the adverts and clips - clash of the titans - battle of the north - east meets west - showdown - high noon derby day - its all advertised with that fight type build up
annnnnnnnnnd thats whats greeeeeeeeat about fooooooootie ballll
the harsh side is some folks will always take it a bit waaaaaaaay too far
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" both sets of fans are bigots. and its old, pathetic and most of the country are sick of hearing about it. yes its pathetic how SOME people behave but not ALL fans are bigots so your saying i am a bigot then just because i support one of them" think you quoted me in error......its an earlier poster who said both sets of fans are bigots and i quoted their thoughts before disagreeing with them as i KNOW that both sets of fans are NOT all bigots | |||
"............. So to the "old firm bashers" just remember without these 2 massive clubs, scottish football dies!! FACT!!" I don't agree. Without both Old Firm clubs Scottish football would flourish - albeit at a smaller level. Football fans, GENUINE football fans, would turn out to support their local club instead of one of the Glasgow biggies. I'm told more people travel from Inverness to watch Rangers + Celtic than attend Inverness CT home gamesa nd that's just wrong on so many levels. The real danger to Scottish football would be if ONE of the big two vanished (for whatever reason). The remaining team would hoover up the bulk of the television and sponsorship money and, with no real competition, would collect most of the silverware most years. | |||
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" i find it sad that teams are perceived as being either protestant or catholic "true.. but even in london clubs have certain allegencies... for example, chelsea and millwall are linked with rangers... arsenal and west ham with celtic, tottenham were always known as "the jewish club" actually funny enough I have known neil lennon since our paths use to cross quite a bit when i was at Uni in Leicester, and he was a player there... as nice people go he was always one of those that you never heard a bad word said against.... actually spent more than 1 st paddys day with him and his dad..nutters!!!
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"im sure bbc alba would be the ones to pump in the tv revenue should the old firm be awol!! reduction in tv money and also sponsorship would affect every club. throw in the current fan base that follows both glasgow teams to away games also being lost. many clubs would fold......but hey maybe thats what it needs to improve things. scotland has 44 senior clubs and a population of just over 5 million, whereas england has i think 92 senior clubs and a poulation of around 50 million way too much clubs trying to share way too little money.....somethings got to give and maybe if the old firm ever left then we would see a drastic restructure of scottish football it perhaps needs a good shake from top to bottom " and if the old firm leave maybe, just maybe, Hearts would win the league.... yes I know I am dreaming again!! | |||
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"old firm will never leave Scottish football, we have tried an failed. were better off having a British cup as i had said for a long time; scrap the league cup, an have the top 5 teams in each country; (Scotland,wales,England,Ireland) plays each other for the big prize" what about Northern Ireland | |||
"have to disagree mr voyeur, the television money would drop dramatically, in a recent survey done 65% of clubs would fold if there was even a 25% drop in t.v revenue. You say more fans would turn out for their local team, and to a certain point i agree but with that also more bigots would start attending games of their local team. These moron's are gonna go somewhere to spout their bile. Take out the old firm and you don't solve the problem... you just pass it on to another club " I don't think so. Few of the local teams have the same Proddy v Kaflik adversarial issues that the Old Form share so the knuckledraggers would struggle to "spout their bile". TV money, yes it would drop, but it wouldn't have to stretch as far. Without Old Firms wages (and incidental costs) less money in total could mean more more for specific local clubs. | |||
"old firm will never leave Scottish football, we have tried an failed. were better off having a British cup as i had said for a long time; scrap the league cup, an have the top 5 teams in each country; (Scotland,wales,England,Ireland) plays each other for the big prize what about Northern Ireland "an them to | |||
"im sure bbc alba would be the ones to pump in the tv revenue should the old firm be awol!! .." I doubt BBC Alba will survive the cuts being imposed on the Beeb as a whole. I'm guessing your exclamation marks suggest you feel the same. | |||
"im sure bbc alba would be the ones to pump in the tv revenue should the old firm be awol!! .. I doubt BBC Alba will survive the cuts being imposed on the Beeb as a whole. I'm guessing your exclamation marks suggest you feel the same." erm....no. its the level of the playing field that i feel scottish football would be operating in should there be no rangers or celtic in the league (remember setanta) to be honest both old firm teams aint going anywhere else to ply their trade. they tried....they failed.....and i dont see it changing anytime soon | |||
"im sure bbc alba would be the ones to pump in the tv revenue should the old firm be awol!! .. I doubt BBC Alba will survive the cuts being imposed on the Beeb as a whole. I'm guessing your exclamation marks suggest you feel the same. erm....no. its the level of the playing field that i feel scottish football would be operating in should there be no rangers or celtic in the league (remember setanta) to be honest both old firm teams aint going anywhere else to ply their trade. they tried....they failed.....and i dont see it changing anytime soon" sentanta are still on air just not showing in uk said before old firm will never leave the spl it be only if all uk nations agree on a brittish cup which is more appealing | |||
"lets face it both these teams kick and chase. hardly any skill. its just abusive and old. anyone who thinks it is right to send a parcel bomb should be detained. no one deserves that kind of treatment. i use to live across the road from celtic park and have seen first hand both sets of supporters behaving badly. i dreaded old firm day because the scum of society come out spitting all sorts of rubbish and are clearly not interested in football just looking to stir up hate and smash anything they can. these people need to grow up and old firm matches should for a whole season be played behind closed doors as a warning to future punishment. rivalry is one thing but sending bombs and bullets in the post is something else. its a good thing these clubs do not play in england as there fans would go mental when turned over by the likes of millwall and portsmouth. both sets of fans are bigots. and its old, pathetic and most of the country are sick of hearing about it." Fantastic post - well done mate. You've hit the nail on the head. Anyone who resorts to sectarian hatred in the murky name of religion is clouded in their narrow mindedness and is an insult to good protestant and catholic people who do adhere and subscribe to their faiths. And I also agree that both Celtic and Rangers would find their level in the Championship at best, Premiership has too much skill for either of them. It also makes me laugh to see fans posting about Rangers alegience to their Chelsea brothers. If both teams played in the same league there would be no comaradory. There would be stone cold hatred. Rangers and Celtic need to move on and get over the past. It's just so boring to hear the same old rant a dozen times a season. | |||
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"celtic sing just as much as rangers do mate and there songs arent much better, infact wasnt it the celtic fans who cheered during a min silence that rangers held, so id say that worse than singing a few songs" what songs do they sing then if you so sure there sectarian | |||
"said before old firm will never leave the spl it be only if all uk nations agree on a brittish cup which is more appealing" and the english premier league clubs dont find a british cup appealing therefore it wont happen as there would be no money in any such event without the 'big' english clubs. dont see the likes of man u, chelsea, arsenal, man city, liverpool, tottenham wanting any extra games against the likes of linfield, dundee utd, glentoran, shamrock rovers, hearts and as for the welsh teams....well their 'main' clubs play in the english leagues so on that count they are barred so its the likes of afan lido, bryntirion athletic.......... i cant see sky licking their lips at the prospect of these mouth watering ties........nor will the EPL clubs risk their reserve teams never mind their 1st team in any such competition any such competition would only appeal to the smaller nations i personally dont see it happening | |||
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"celtic sing just as much as rangers do mate and there songs arent much better, infact wasnt it the celtic fans who cheered during a min silence that rangers held, so id say that worse than singing a few songswhat songs do they sing then if you so sure there sectarian you must be joking, have you never heard them sing about get the 'brits' out even tho its them in scotland lol think ya should have a flick over youtube buddy and have a watch at a few videos " | |||
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"celtic sing just as much as rangers do mate and there songs arent much better, infact wasnt it the celtic fans who cheered during a min silence that rangers held, so id say that worse than singing a few songswhat songs do they sing then if you so sure there sectarian " Celtic football fans are quite happy to sing pro IRA songs week in and week out, they are quite happy to wave the Irish Republican flag in favour of the flag of their own country or nation ( how can you live in Scotland and yet profess to love Southern Ireland over your own country ? ) they are quite happy to wear scarfs and shirts proclaiming they are "provos". As for poor old Neil Lennon he has courted trouble all his days, just you tube some of his antics and you will see what he really is. Yes there may be sectarian singing from some Rangers fans but balance that against the terrorist sympathisers from good old Celtic fans and you will get the full picture and not just the one you get in the media. Posted by Master ( Katie may have a differing opinion ) | |||
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"when the last time you went 2 a Celtic game we dont sing ira pro songs " Of course not, you are all upstanding citizens of the UK who love your country and would never support a terrorist group such as the IRA, im glad to hear it, things at Parkhead really have moved on in the last couple of weeks | |||
"when the last time you went 2 a Celtic game we dont sing ira pro songs Of course not, you are all upstanding citizens of the UK who love your country and would never support a terrorist group such as the IRA, im glad to hear it, things at Parkhead really have moved on in the last couple of weeks "sorry am lost here you just said celtic fans sing pro ira songs we haven't now you say we move on over the last few weeks whats dose that mean? celtic fans do not sing pro ira songs its ban from parkhead; if any fan caught singing it there ban from the ground this has been going on for years celtic fans as also been praised a number of times by fifa an has won the fans awards several times since Seville for there good behavior home an away.. | |||
"when the last time you went 2 a Celtic game we dont sing ira pro songs Of course not, you are all upstanding citizens of the UK who love your country and would never support a terrorist group such as the IRA, im glad to hear it, things at Parkhead really have moved on in the last couple of weeks sorry am lost here
you just said celtic fans sing pro ira songs we haven't now
you say we move on over the last few weeks whats dose that mean?
celtic fans do not sing pro ira songs its ban from parkhead;
if any fan caught singing it there ban from the ground this has been going on for years
celtic fans as also been praised a number of times by fifa an has won the fans awards several times since Seville
for there good behavior home an away..
"No need to be confused, my posts are quite clear, I dont think anyone with an ounce of brains would think that all the trouble and sectarianism comes from the Rangers fans in Glasgow, go back and read all the things I have said about the scarves and banners and IRA chants and about your managers shady past and his bad tempered rants, spitting on football scarves, singing sectarian songs, waving Republican flags in favour of the flag of your country etc etc etc I could argue all day but I have now redressed the balance in the thread, so to recap : Some Celtic fans are as bigoted and sectarian as some Rangers counterparts.
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"People ned to know the truth, thats called balance. As for not bringing Celtic fans into it, is this not a thread about Rangers and Celtic ? Thats the problem with Celtic fans they cant even see how wrong they actually are, I look forward to seeing all the Scottish flags and Union Flags at the next game at Parkhead, oh no thats never going to happen, Celtic Park would be better moved brick by brick to Dublin as thats where all the Celtic fans hearts are really. I was in Glasgow last weekend during the game by the way so dont tell me Celtic fans dont do any of the things I have posted about, I saw it and heard first hand. " we dont sing ira pro songs your still stating we do when we dont why union jack flags its a Scottish club fly a st Andrews flag | |||
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"There is no bigger force in Scottish football than Queen of the South. Love em!" What Graham norton plays football in Scotland?! | |||
"................ why union jack flags its a Scottish club fly a st Andrews flag " Is that what Celtic fans do - fly the Saltire - or maybe they prefer the Tricolour? I think we should be told. | |||
"................ why union jack flags its a Scottish club fly a st Andrews flag Is that what Celtic fans do - fly the Saltire - or maybe they prefer the Tricolour? I think we should be told." still fly Scottish flags at games as well but not brittish | |||
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"why not british flags then?" scottish clubs | |||
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"why not british flags then?" Because, it has been used to incite the crowd at times. And for goodness sake its only football. | |||
"Both of whom ate in great britain" an what about it | |||
"why not british flags then? scottish clubs " Doesn't the union jack include the Scottish flag... its showing British pride as well as Scottish.. Katie x | |||
"why not british flags then? Because, it has been used to incite the crowd at times. And for goodness sake its only football. " well said its a game for over inflated egos & primma donnas its certainly lost its interest for me | |||
"why not british flags then? scottish clubs Doesn't the union jack include the Scottish flag... its showing British pride as well as Scottish.. Katie x " same for Irish flags flying at parkhead were we ware Irish colors | |||
"Both of whom ate in great britainan what about it " the argument you use that the saltire is flown rather than the union flag due to the scottish location is invalid given both clubs are in great britain | |||
"why not british flags then? Because, it has been used to incite the crowd at times. And for goodness sake its only football. " a british flag incites the crowd?? dont think celtic fans wave many scottish flags.......meanwhile its much the same at ibrox as you dont see that many there either. so im not picking on just one of them. its all ingrained garbage as far as im concerned my opinion is that (my allegiance is to rangers co-incidently) celtic have had more success with a reduction in sectarian singing from their fans than those over at my club lets hope recent events can put a stop to it once and for all cos it really does belong in the dark ages | |||
"why not british flags then? scottish clubs Doesn't the union jack include the Scottish flag... its showing British pride as well as Scottish.. Katie x same for Irish flags flying at parkhead were we ware Irish colors " Why not unite under a white flag? Unity in these hard times is what is called for. Scottish football is in a terrible state, we all need to get behind it, instead of bickering and fighting. | |||
"why not british flags then? scottish clubs Doesn't the union jack include the Scottish flag... its showing British pride as well as Scottish.. Katie x same for Irish flags flying at parkhead were we ware Irish colors " And there you have ot, the Irish flag is favoured at Parkhead over the flag of your own country, what is it with about the Irish flag you like so much ? are you not living in Scotland ? it amazes me that any Scottish person would favour the tricolour over the flag of his own country however, it amazes me that those same people support a terrorist group over there own countrymen who fight in the armed forces for the very right to spew their bile. It is worth remembering the GREEN BRIGADES shameful anti poppy protest and their hatred of our BRITISH servicemen. | |||
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"Rangers manager Walter Smith hopes the explicit threat of heavier sanctions from Uefa will put an end to any sectarian singing from supporters. Uefa fined Rangers and banned fans from attending their next away game in Europe after they were found guilty of discriminatory behaviour. And further punishments were suspended for three years. "It should be enough for people to realise the sectarian aspect of the singing has to stop," said Smith. from bbc fotball" Thats all very interesting but hardly answers the questions hanging over Parkhead and their failure to denounce the TERRORIST group the IRA, and feel free to enlighten us about the anti British and anti Servicemen sentiment that so many of the Celtic fans feel the need to shout about week in and week out. And feel free to tell us why you and the rest of the Celtic fans favour the flag and colours of a foreign country over the flag of your own ? , the truth is out there Mulder  | |||
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"The lunatic fringe on both sides are as bad as each other , the sectarianism is so deep seated that i fear it will allways be there and both sides with each generation have some who are just brought up to hate . I'm sure that both clubs would hope for the day where it does'nt exist or form part of their support but it is so much of both of their traditions . " I am not one of thease people i support a football club an no of the history of the 2 clubs but for some dont | |||
"The lunatic fringe on both sides are as bad as each other , the sectarianism is so deep seated that i fear it will allways be there and both sides with each generation have some who are just brought up to hate . I'm sure that both clubs would hope for the day where it does'nt exist or form part of their support but it is so much of both of their traditions . I am not one of thease people i support a football club an no of the history of the 2 clubs but for some dont " I made no reference to you personally and or the majority of supporters but the club devide is used by the hate filled nutters as an outlet for their diatribe of bile and abuse . | |||
"The lunatic fringe on both sides are as bad as each other , the sectarianism is so deep seated that i fear it will allways be there and both sides with each generation have some who are just brought up to hate . I'm sure that both clubs would hope for the day where it does'nt exist or form part of their support but it is so much of both of their traditions . I am not one of thease people i support a football club an no of the history of the 2 clubs but for some dont I made no reference to you personally and or the majority of supporters but the club devide is used by the hate filled nutters as an outlet for their diatribe of bile and abuse . " its your 1st line that said it | |||
"The lunatic fringe on both sides are as bad as each other , the sectarianism is so deep seated that i fear it will allways be there and both sides with each generation have some who are just brought up to hate . I'm sure that both clubs would hope for the day where it does'nt exist or form part of their support but it is so much of both of their traditions . I am not one of thease people i support a football club an no of the history of the 2 clubs but for some dont I made no reference to you personally and or the majority of supporters but the club devide is used by the hate filled nutters as an outlet for their diatribe of bile and abuse . its your 1st line that said it" Sorry but said what ? as in how do you interperate my first line ? | |||
"The lunatic fringe on both sides are as bad as each other , the sectarianism is so deep seated that i fear it will allways be there and both sides with each generation have some who are just brought up to hate . I'm sure that both clubs would hope for the day where it does'nt exist or form part of their support but it is so much of both of their traditions . I am not one of thease people i support a football club an no of the history of the 2 clubs but for some dont I made no reference to you personally and or the majority of supporters but the club devide is used by the hate filled nutters as an outlet for their diatribe of bile and abuse . its your 1st line that said it Sorry but said what ? as in how do you interperate my first line ? " u said both fans do it when they dont | |||
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"The lunatic fringe on both sides are as bad as each other , the sectarianism is so deep seated that i fear it will allways be there and both sides with each generation have some who are just brought up to hate . I'm sure that both clubs would hope for the day where it does'nt exist or form part of their support but it is so much of both of their traditions . I am not one of thease people i support a football club an no of the history of the 2 clubs but for some dont I made no reference to you personally and or the majority of supporters but the club devide is used by the hate filled nutters as an outlet for their diatribe of bile and abuse . its your 1st line that said it Sorry but said what ? as in how do you interperate my first line ? u said both fans do it when they dont" I think you will find they both do , there are nutters on both sides , i did Not say YOU , if you cannott understand that then thats your problem or chip on your shoulder , im saying no more on the matter , i suggest you do the same before you misunderstand more of what is said to you and find yourself in more point arguments that needent be . | |||
"he said that there is a lunatic fringe on both sides......that doesnt mean everyone!! it was aimed at those who drag their clubs into the gutter....so as you have said that you dont then his post is clearly NOT aimed at YOU "Correct , thank you . | |||
"The lunatic fringe on both sides are as bad as each other , the sectarianism is so deep seated that i fear it will allways be there and both sides with each generation have some who are just brought up to hate . I'm sure that both clubs would hope for the day where it does'nt exist or form part of their support but it is so much of both of their traditions . I am not one of thease people i support a football club an no of the history of the 2 clubs but for some dont I made no reference to you personally and or the majority of supporters but the club devide is used by the hate filled nutters as an outlet for their diatribe of bile and abuse . its your 1st line that said it Sorry but said what ? as in how do you interperate my first line ? u said both fans do it when they dont I think you will find they both do , there are nutters on both sides , i did Not say YOU , if you cannott understand that then thats your problem or chip on your shoulder , im saying no more on the matter , i suggest you do the same before you misunderstand more of what is said to you and find yourself in more point arguments that needent be ." i dont have 1 so dont go there please | |||
"The lunatic fringe on both sides are as bad as each other , the sectarianism is so deep seated that i fear it will allways be there and both sides with each generation have some who are just brought up to hate . I'm sure that both clubs would hope for the day where it does'nt exist or form part of their support but it is so much of both of their traditions . I am not one of thease people i support a football club an no of the history of the 2 clubs but for some dont I made no reference to you personally and or the majority of supporters but the club devide is used by the hate filled nutters as an outlet for their diatribe of bile and abuse . its your 1st line that said it Sorry but said what ? as in how do you interperate my first line ? u said both fans do it when they dont I think you will find they both do , there are nutters on both sides , i did Not say YOU , if you cannott understand that then thats your problem or chip on your shoulder , im saying no more on the matter , i suggest you do the same before you misunderstand more of what is said to you and find yourself in more point arguments that needent be .i dont have 1 so dont go there please" You clearly dont have one , though i doubt the 'one' i mean is the same as yourself | |||
"The lunatic fringe on both sides are as bad as each other , the sectarianism is so deep seated that i fear it will allways be there and both sides with each generation have some who are just brought up to hate . I'm sure that both clubs would hope for the day where it does'nt exist or form part of their support but it is so much of both of their traditions . I am not one of thease people i support a football club an no of the history of the 2 clubs but for some dont I made no reference to you personally and or the majority of supporters but the club devide is used by the hate filled nutters as an outlet for their diatribe of bile and abuse . its your 1st line that said it Sorry but said what ? as in how do you interperate my first line ? u said both fans do it when they dont I think you will find they both do , there are nutters on both sides , i did Not say YOU , if you cannott understand that then thats your problem or chip on your shoulder , im saying no more on the matter , i suggest you do the same before you misunderstand more of what is said to you and find yourself in more point arguments that needent be .i dont have 1 so dont go there please You clearly dont have one , though i doubt the 'one' i mean is the same as yourself" Yawn | |||
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"as a semi neutral.... Uefa have actually warned BOTH clubs about the singing of certain songs at european matches.... one side of the divide has stopped singing them at those games.... the other side hasn't and got hit today by UEFA thats about as factual as i can be..... " Thats because only Rangers get to play in Europe | |||
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or very slowly wait for folks to tire of the hate
and that will take a long long time - i hope though - and as a sellick fan i think its a bit strange n harsh rangers have been hounded by uefa
celtic are the club that once had loons with a banner celebrating the IRA bombing on manchester as a result!
both clubs have done well to elimate sectarian flags - ira banners - uvf banners etc
should they eliminate irish flags and union jacks and permit only saltires - after all they are both scottish clubs
again i think that would be daft
but celtic recently ive heard up the ra on telly - and bits of other sectarian tunes so why the rage n hassle on rangers
and for a dutch club to be sooo upset - i mean come on the dutch - i can see youtube - the dutch are loons! feyenoord - rotterdam - my god
so a bit harsh i think this pressure pushed on rangers
same happened at the cup final when the press all blamed rangers fans - a lot o fans that went will tell you the tales of squads of guys in rangers shirts - who certainly were not - from scotland - and not rangers fans
theres always more to the tale than how it looks
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"oooh controversial.... seriously, would you swing wi that wee ginger furball???? "nope | |||
"oooh controversial.... seriously, would you swing wi that wee ginger furball???? "sorry, was that rhetorical? | |||
"oooh controversial.... seriously, would you swing wi that wee ginger furball???? "There's plenty who'd swing for him | |||
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"celtic has got over the pass just rangers has not it proves it already this season with them singing those ban songs an hearing is done today for there fate; those actions from mindless idiots will destroy Scottish involvement in Europe elite " I just had to reply after Wednesdays game of shame Hearts v Celtic, whilst a mindless moron was being restrained after Neil Lennon was assaulted, the Celtic manager landed three kicks to the assailant on the ground before being restrained by his management team, in the meantime in the Celtic end the crowd was in a frenzy battling with the police and stewards and singing "we are the IRA, yes definetely over the pass. And here is a breakdown of the song sheet dished out by the "non sectarian Celtic fans" feel free to have a look on the internet you can watch the shameful video for yourself 1:44 – Ooh Ahh Up the RA 3:08 – Roll of Honour 6:03 – Off to join the IRA 10:04 – Ooh Ah Up the Ra 15:00 – Oh the wee huns are shite 38:45 – Get the Brits out now 44:00 – Oh ah Up the RA 53:00 - P, P, PIRA 55:00 – Never Defeat the IRA 58:00 – Jim Jeffries is a sad orange bassa 59:00 - Oh the wee huns are shite 64:00 - IRA All the way, **** the Queen and the UDA 66:00 – Off to join the IRA 72:00 – Michael Fagan Shagged the Queen 73:00 – Go home ya huns Disgustin terrist sympathisers. | |||
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"just had to say,both sets of supporters,have an element of bigoted thugs.they shame and disgust,most decent minded celtic and rangers supporters. although i also have to say katie.celtic supporters,are welcome back,in any country they visit. whereas the same,most certainly,could not be said of rangers supporters." It was Master that wrote the post I prefer motorsport to football
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"just had to say,both sets of supporters,have an element of bigoted thugs.they shame and disgust,most decent minded celtic and rangers supporters. although i also have to say katie.celtic supporters,are welcome back,in any country they visit. whereas the same,most certainly,could not be said of rangers supporters. It was Master that wrote the post I prefer motorsport to football
Katie x "
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"................ We showed the red card to racism isnt it time we showed that red card to sectarianism. " HAVE we shown racism the red card? It was only a few days ago that "A CELTIC fan who made monkey gestures towards Rangers player El Hadji Diouf during an Old Firm game has been jailed for three months. Racist Sean Smith taunted the West African striker as he took a corner kick for the Ibrox side in February this year." OK, it was his fellow 'Tic fans who shopped him but don't let's imagine racism is dead in Scotland. There's work still to be done. More at http://www.scotsman.com/news/Celtic-fan-jailed-for-monkey.6766710.jp | |||
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"SOMEONE SHOULD GROW A PAIR .. the next time these 'fans' of either team start with their vile racist or sectarian chanting let alone what else they have been up to they should either be docked ten points or suspended for 3 games from the league each time it happens. the lid is only just on this cauldron, the peer pressure from the vast majority of good people who support both teams to curtail this is not working. the 'education' strategies that both clubs have attempted is not working. the authorities dont appear to have the political will to stop it. this is beyond football, its a social / religous issue and in all honesty sickening. someone will die, they will have gone to watch the match of their team and someone else some fuckwit moron will 'chibb' them up. A shocking state of affairs " i agree | |||
"............. someone will die, they will have gone to watch the match of their team and someone else some fuckwit moron will 'chibb' them up. A shocking state of affairs " We're well past the "someone will die" phase. Pre- and post- match violence still goes on though some ideas, like early kick offs have helped, but it still goes on. One matter worthy of mention is what Strathclyde's Finest call 'a significant increase' in domestic violence on Old Firm match days. When their team gets beat - these brave lads go home and batter fuck out of wife | |||
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Message to Neil Lennon, learn some dignity in defeat you sad loser, you have so far this season blamed, the referees, the SFA, cheating by other teams etc etc etc, you never even had the dignity to congratulate the Scottish champions ( the bankrupt team who have lost most of their good players and had no money to spend for the last 3 years ).
Congratulations Rangers, Simply the best | |||
"Neil Lennon on his post match interview today after losing the title as usual tried to insinuate that his team were somehow cheated
Message to Neil Lennon, learn some dignity in defeat you sad loser, you have so far this season blamed, the referees, the SFA, cheating by other teams etc etc etc, you never even had the dignity to congratulate the Scottish champions ( the bankrupt team who have lost most of their good players and had no money to spend for the last 3 years ).
Congratulations Rangers, Simply the best "+1 | |||
"Neil Lennon on his post match interview today after losing the title as usual tried to insinuate that his team were somehow cheated
Message to Neil Lennon, learn some dignity in defeat you sad loser, you have so far this season blamed, the referees, the SFA, cheating by other teams etc etc etc, you never even had the dignity to congratulate the Scottish champions ( the bankrupt team who have lost most of their good players and had no money to spend for the last 3 years ).
Congratulations Rangers, Simply the best
+1"i know it's disgusting,what has neil lennon got to moan about. everybody who manages a football team,gets a dignified bullet,and bombs sent to them in the post. bigotry is a disgusting trait,but as bigotry goes,you are simply the best. | |||
"Neil Lennon on his post match interview today after losing the title as usual tried to insinuate that his team were somehow cheated
Message to Neil Lennon, learn some dignity in defeat you sad loser, you have so far this season blamed, the referees, the SFA, cheating by other teams etc etc etc, you never even had the dignity to congratulate the Scottish champions ( the bankrupt team who have lost most of their good players and had no money to spend for the last 3 years ).
Congratulations Rangers, Simply the best
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i know it's disgusting,what has neil lennon got to moan about.
everybody who manages a football team,gets a dignified bullet,and bombs sent to them in the post.
bigotry is a disgusting trait,but as bigotry goes,you are simply the best."Would you like some Lemon with that or are you bitter enough ? It must be hard being a Celtic fan, all that money wasted and defeated by a bankrupt team,and all the Celtic fans can shout about is bigotry, well they are the experts I suppose .
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"Donald Findlay is targetted now. "DONALD Findlay, the leading QC and former vice-chairman of Rangers, has been sent a knife in the post, in the latest threat to a high-profile figure in Scottish football. The package, which was opened by a bomb disposal squad specialist called because of heightened fears at clubs, was addressed to Mr Findlay at Cowdenbeath FC, where he is now the chairman." More in The Scotsman at http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/news/ExIbrox-director-Donald-Findlay-in.6769539.jp" *I borrowed it last year to carve a turkey!!!-was only returning it FFS! | |||
"Neil Lennon on his post match interview today after losing the title as usual tried to insinuate that his team were somehow cheated
Message to Neil Lennon, learn some dignity in defeat you sad loser, you have so far this season blamed, the referees, the SFA, cheating by other teams etc etc etc, you never even had the dignity to congratulate the Scottish champions ( the bankrupt team who have lost most of their good players and had no money to spend for the last 3 years ).
Congratulations Rangers, Simply the best
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i know it's disgusting,what has neil lennon got to moan about.
everybody who manages a football team,gets a dignified bullet,and bombs sent to them in the post.
bigotry is a disgusting trait,but as bigotry goes,you are simply the best.
Would you like some Lemon with that or are you bitter enough ? It must be hard being a Celtic fan, all that money wasted and defeated by a bankrupt team,and all the Celtic fans can shout about is bigotry, well they are the experts I suppose .
Master posted this and not Katie. "NO,MY DADS BIGGER THAN YOUR DAD!!! (your turn) | |||
"Neil Lennon on his post match interview today after losing the title as usual tried to insinuate that his team were somehow cheated
Message to Neil Lennon, learn some dignity in defeat you sad loser, you have so far this season blamed, the referees, the SFA, cheating by other teams etc etc etc, you never even had the dignity to congratulate the Scottish champions ( the bankrupt team who have lost most of their good players and had no money to spend for the last 3 years ).
Congratulations Rangers, Simply the best
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i know it's disgusting,what has neil lennon got to moan about.
everybody who manages a football team,gets a dignified bullet,and bombs sent to them in the post.
bigotry is a disgusting trait,but as bigotry goes,you are simply the best.
Would you like some Lemon with that or are you bitter enough ? It must be hard being a Celtic fan, all that money wasted and defeated by a bankrupt team,and all the Celtic fans can shout about is bigotry, well they are the experts I suppose .
Master posted this and not Katie.
NO,MY DADS BIGGER THAN YOUR DAD!!!
(your turn) "I hope so, my dads only 3 foot 6"
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"is your dad wee soapy lol " He is so short he finds it hard to act the big man | |||
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"Hey, I'm a Ger's man but would love to meet a wee Celtic lassie FB (in her Celtic top)...... so I can dominate her in bed while my team also dominates her team. When they start beating us we can swap roles....perfecto!"  Now that made me laugh | |||
"Hey, I'm a Ger's man but would love to meet a wee Celtic lassie FB (in her Celtic top)...... so I can dominate her in bed while my team also dominates her team. When they start beating us we can swap roles....perfecto! Now that made me laugh "Your not going to make me get one are you Master.... ? Lol Katie x | |||
"Hey, I'm a Ger's man but would love to meet a wee Celtic lassie FB (in her Celtic top)...... so I can dominate her in bed while my team also dominates her team. When they start beating us we can swap roles....perfecto! Now that made me laugh
Your not going to make me get one are you Master.... ? Lol
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