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"Anxiety yes,i got tinnitus from it which is making me depressed......irony" Check out the link I posted above. I have tinnitus too but it appears to be linked to my autoimmune issues. | |||
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"Maybe a question better asked to a mental health professional......" It's good to talk  | |||
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"Id say theres ways and means of dealing with it to minimise the possibility, but not so sure theres a cure" theres no cure ive seen a mate with it its terrible | |||
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"Id say theres ways and means of dealing with it to minimise the possibility, but not so sure theres a curetheres no cure ive seen a mate with it its terrible" 
It's not terrible all the time.
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"Id say theres ways and means of dealing with it to minimise the possibility, but not so sure theres a curetheres no cure ive seen a mate with it its terrible" Your opening post is a little confusing then. Depression is terrible but it is possible to survive it and even manage it with the right tools and help. I hope your friend is getting help. | |||
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"Good friends. Support of family if possible. It's not easy but one can live a happier life by often understanding it's an illness and not your fault. That it can be managed with the right tools." ive had it i had a breakdownthe things i could tell you would blow your mind its absolutely horrible and the things ive done im so ashamed x | |||
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"Good friends. Support of family if possible. It's not easy but one can live a happier life by often understanding it's an illness and not your fault. That it can be managed with the right tools.ive had it i had a breakdownthe things i could tell you would blow your mind its absolutely horrible and the things ive done im so ashamed x" I doubt you could blow anything as far as depression is concerned. I think you might benefit from speaking to your doctor about counselling though. | |||
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"Good friends. Support of family if possible. It's not easy but one can live a happier life by often understanding it's an illness and not your fault. That it can be managed with the right tools.ive had it i had a breakdownthe things i could tell you would blow your mind its absolutely horrible and the things ive done im so ashamed x" And you are here to tell the tale so you know it is possible to live with it. Don't be ashamed but learn from what you have done in the past. | |||
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"Medication and lots of counselling is the key I am bi polar highs and big lows postnatal depression went undiagnosed until I got sectioned worst days of my life but there is good resources out there. MIND, the Samaritans it is good to talk also to keep a mood diary. Like I said on a previous thread men fear it and very high statistics with men with mental health issues and suicide men are more likely to commit suicide than women so very sad if you are feeling low then please seek help x" i had a breakdown so called profesionals treated me really badly thought i was attention seeking but i tried to kill myself miles away in middle of nowhere so i wasnt to be found only police helicopter found me yet i was attention seeking | |||
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"I've had depression on and off since I was 18. There is no cure. But I've managed to spot the signs and seek help to manage the symptoms before I freefall. I'm in a good place now. Cognitive therapy helped me a lot. " therapy is the only way as far as I'm concerned. that and sometimes meds are needed to manage the symptoms but if we don't talk, it builds. | |||
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"I've had depression on and off since I was 18. There is no cure. But I've managed to spot the signs and seek help to manage the symptoms before I freefall. I'm in a good place now. Cognitive therapy helped me a lot. " some people cant talk to professionals though thats the problem x | |||
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"I've had depression on and off since I was 18. There is no cure. But I've managed to spot the signs and seek help to manage the symptoms before I freefall. I'm in a good place now. Cognitive therapy helped me a lot. some people cant talk to professionals though thats the problem x" So talk to friends, family, random stranger......but talk to someone. I found the body of my brother who refused to talk to anyone. Don't let yourself be another statistic. | |||
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"Good friends. Support of family if possible. It's not easy but one can live a happier life by often understanding it's an illness and not your fault. That it can be managed with the right tools.ive had it i had a breakdownthe things i could tell you would blow your mind its absolutely horrible and the things ive done im so ashamed x And you are here to tell the tale so you know it is possible to live with it. Don't be ashamed but learn from what you have done in the past. " i live with it everyday though its horrible plus i knowca good friend with it too x | |||
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"I have borderline personality disorder. I don't like saying it to randomers, but I am d*unk, so fuck it. You're not alone with mental health issues "
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"I have borderline personality disorder. I don't like saying it to randomers, but I am d*unk, so fuck it. You're not alone with mental health issues
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"ah thankyou im over worse byt still there xx | |||
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"Medication and lots of counselling is the key I am bi polar highs and big lows postnatal depression went undiagnosed until I got sectioned worst days of my life but there is good resources out there. MIND, the Samaritans it is good to talk also to keep a mood diary. Like I said on a previous thread men fear it and very high statistics with men with mental health issues and suicide men are more likely to commit suicide than women so very sad if you are feeling low then please seek help xi had a breakdown so called profesionals treated me really badly thought i was attention seeking but i tried to kill myself miles away in middle of nowhere so i wasnt to be found only police helicopter found me yet i was attention seeking" Go back and ask to be seen by someone else. A suicide attempt is attention seeking - you are crying out as loudly as you can for someone to take the pain away. It can be hard work getting help, I know, but it's easier if you can find a friend or family member you trust to help you get it. I am lucky that my GP is always in my corner. | |||
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"I've had depression on and off since I was 18. There is no cure. But I've managed to spot the signs and seek help to manage the symptoms before I freefall. I'm in a good place now. Cognitive therapy helped me a lot. some people cant talk to professionals though thats the problem x" In order to overcome certain obstacles, you have to step out of your comfort zone. Reach out for help, even though the idea is terrifying. I didn't want to discuss things with anyone, let alone 'strangers'. But my whole world was imploding. I had to swallow my anxiety, embarrassment and fear, and help myself. Its a tough battle, but sometimes you have to put yourself in really uncomfortable situations for the greater good. I refused to be a victim to this. Bravest thing I ever did. | |||
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"I have borderline personality disorder. I don't like saying it to randomers, but I am d*unk, so fuck it. You're not alone with mental health issues
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"I have borderline personality disorder. I don't like saying it to randomers, but I am d*unk, so fuck it. You're not alone with mental health issues
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ah thankyou im over worse byt still there xx"I'm sorry those were for Red. 
I'm sending you big feck off hugs even though I hate virtual hugs. | |||
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"I have borderline personality disorder. I don't like saying it to randomers, but I am d*unk, so fuck it. You're not alone with mental health issues "Careful with the lows of alcohol and have a hug from me. | |||
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"I've had depression on and off since I was 18. There is no cure. But I've managed to spot the signs and seek help to manage the symptoms before I freefall. I'm in a good place now. Cognitive therapy helped me a lot. some people cant talk to professionals though thats the problem x In order to overcome certain obstacles, you have to step out of your comfort zone. Reach out for help, even though the idea is terrifying. I didn't want to discuss things with anyone, let alone 'strangers'. But my whole world was imploding. I had to swallow my anxiety, embarrassment and fear, and help myself. Its a tough battle, but sometimes you have to put yourself in really uncomfortable situations for the greater good. I refused to be a victim to this. Bravest thing I ever did. "
Asking for help is a strength not a weakness.
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"put the boot onthe other fooot try living with your partner who as it its hell" This is unfortunately true. | |||
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"Id say theres ways and means of dealing with it to minimise the possibility, but not so sure theres a curetheres no cure ive seen a mate with it its terrible Your opening post is a little confusing then. Depression is terrible but it is possible to survive it and even manage it with the right tools and help. I hope your friend is getting help. " its me not a friend i lied x | |||
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"I have borderline personality disorder. I don't like saying it to randomers, but I am d*unk, so fuck it. You're not alone with mental health issues
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You're never alone so long as im on here pal " Thank you | |||
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"I have borderline personality disorder. I don't like saying it to randomers, but I am d*unk, so fuck it. You're not alone with mental health issues
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"Not enough. My doctor says I require more. | |||
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"put the boot onthe other fooot try living with your partner who as it its hell" That's the bit that always makes me feel guilty and ashamed as I know how hard it is for those who love me. You have my every sympathy and I hope there is someone there to help you too. | |||
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"I have borderline personality disorder. I don't like saying it to randomers, but I am d*unk, so fuck it. You're not alone with mental health issues
Careful with the lows of alcohol and have a hug from me.
"I'm all too aware of them, fear not Have a hug back! Thank you. | |||
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"I'd say the only cure is to all think the same, but then would we all end up happy or would it be sad ? Probably sad, because there's simply not enough love in the world " There's lots and lots of love in the world if we just let it out. | |||
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"I have borderline personality disorder. I don't like saying it to randomers, but I am d*unk, so fuck it. You're not alone with mental health issues
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Not enough. My doctor says I require more."you're your doctor aren't you? bad man | |||
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"I have borderline personality disorder. I don't like saying it to randomers, but I am d*unk, so fuck it. You're not alone with mental health issues
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Not enough. My doctor says I require more.
you're your doctor aren't you?
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"No. That would mean I have multiple personality disorder, and I don't have that. Do I, Dr. Red? No, Mr. Red, no you don't. See? | |||
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"I'd say the only cure is to all think the same, but then would we all end up happy or would it be sad ? Probably sad, because there's simply not enough love in the world " too right mate no love at all | |||
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"I have borderline personality disorder. I don't like saying it to randomers, but I am d*unk, so fuck it. You're not alone with mental health issues
big slutty kisses
Not enough. My doctor says I require more.
you're your doctor aren't you?
bad man
No. That would mean I have multiple personality disorder, and I don't have that.
Do I, Dr. Red?
No, Mr. Red, no you don't.
See?"That's funny only because I can see you doing the actions. | |||
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"I have borderline personality disorder. I don't like saying it to randomers, but I am d*unk, so fuck it. You're not alone with mental health issues
big slutty kisses
Not enough. My doctor says I require more.
you're your doctor aren't you?
bad man
No. That would mean I have multiple personality disorder, and I don't have that.
Do I, Dr. Red?
No, Mr. Red, no you don't.
See?
That's funny only because I can see you doing the actions."So long as you don't see my lips moving, that's fine. | |||
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"I'd say the only cure is to all think the same, but then would we all end up happy or would it be sad ? Probably sad, because there's simply not enough love in the world There's lots and lots of love in the world if we just let it out. " then show me love i only get abuse | |||
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"I have borderline personality disorder. I don't like saying it to randomers, but I am d*unk, so fuck it. You're not alone with mental health issues
big slutty kisses
Not enough. My doctor says I require more.
you're your doctor aren't you?
bad man
No. That would mean I have multiple personality disorder, and I don't have that.
Do I, Dr. Red?
No, Mr. Red, no you don't.
See?"Hahaha | |||
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"I've had depression on and off since I was 18. There is no cure. But I've managed to spot the signs and seek help to manage the symptoms before I freefall. I'm in a good place now. Cognitive therapy helped me a lot. some people cant talk to professionals though thats the problem x" And often the professionals don't listen | |||
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"Ive suffered with it in the past is there such thing as a cure" I've suffered in the past, I don't think it's ever left me, I don't feel there's a cure. Personally I've learned to recognise when one of "those times" is ahead and have the tools to help me manage those moments. There's good help out there OP if you feel you need it. Never be afraid to ask for it or accept it. Good luck...... | |||
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"I'd say the only cure is to all think the same, but then would we all end up happy or would it be sad ? Probably sad, because there's simply not enough love in the world There's lots and lots of love in the world if we just let it out. then show me love i only get abuse" What abuse have you had on this thread? I don't know you so can only show you the care I have for anyone in pain. I can understand you may not be in a place to feel that but perhaps Fab isn't the place you need to be right now. It's hard enough for single men without being in the throes of depression. | |||
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"I'd say the only cure is to all think the same, but then would we all end up happy or would it be sad ? Probably sad, because there's simply not enough love in the world There's lots and lots of love in the world if we just let it out. then show me love i only get abuse" If i could give you a big hug and have a pint with you i would | |||
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"I've had depression on and off since I was 18. There is no cure. But I've managed to spot the signs and seek help to manage the symptoms before I freefall. I'm in a good place now. Cognitive therapy helped me a lot. some people cant talk to professionals though thats the problem x In order to overcome certain obstacles, you have to step out of your comfort zone. Reach out for help, even though the idea is terrifying. I didn't want to discuss things with anyone, let alone 'strangers'. But my whole world was imploding. I had to swallow my anxiety, embarrassment and fear, and help myself. Its a tough battle, but sometimes you have to put yourself in really uncomfortable situations for the greater good. I refused to be a victim to this. Bravest thing I ever did. " | |||
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"It's not easy with depression. Had it on and off for the last five years. Found professional help really useful but upto a point. I've learnt how to deal and handle situations. I'm proud of myself getting through it. " well done mate | |||
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"I've had depression on and off since I was 18. There is no cure. But I've managed to spot the signs and seek help to manage the symptoms before I freefall. I'm in a good place now. Cognitive therapy helped me a lot. some people cant talk to professionals though thats the problem x In order to overcome certain obstacles, you have to step out of your comfort zone. Reach out for help, even though the idea is terrifying. I didn't want to discuss things with anyone, let alone 'strangers'. But my whole world was imploding. I had to swallow my anxiety, embarrassment and fear, and help myself. Its a tough battle, but sometimes you have to put yourself in really uncomfortable situations for the greater good. I refused to be a victim to this. Bravest thing I ever did. "then that makes you a propper man well done | |||
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"I'd say the only cure is to all think the same, but then would we all end up happy or would it be sad ? Probably sad, because there's simply not enough love in the world There's lots and lots of love in the world if we just let it out. then show me love i only get abuse"  | |||
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"i learnt to recognise the signs and the triggers - and deal with it the best i can" At the end of the day it's the best anyone can do, and the best action to take. | |||
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"My wife suffered while I was depressed." I hope you're feeling better now so that she is feeling better too. | |||
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"I've suffered from depression in some form or another since I was about 17 years old (maybe even before that). It's blighted my whole existence really. It was only about three or four years ago that I even realised I had an actual problem that can be dealt with and I wasn't just going crazy. Since then I've been working on getting better and finding my true self, which had become buried under a mountain of shit. I think that's the worst thing about depression, you just become someone else. I spent whole decades being someone else. Life just passes you by. I think there are ways to get through it though, you just have to put in the effort. Talking to people about it helps. CBT and the like can also help. Simply realising I even had a problem was a big step for me. It's an absolute miracle I'm still here. I'm thankful for that. Life's a wonderful thing. We all owe it to ourselves to try and make the most of each and every day. All I can say to anyone who's suffering is seek out help. Find something that works for you. The help is out there. Don't suffer in silence like I did."
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"I just have to say. I'm really loving this thread. Everybody is so respectful and caring. It's also reassuring that others suffer from depression too. Isolation is the killer with depression. How lovely that people are so bravely sharing their personal struggles "here here i thought everybody was horrible on this site how wrong i am | |||
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"I just have to say. I'm really loving this thread. Everybody is so respectful and caring. It's also reassuring that others suffer from depression too. Isolation is the killer with depression. How lovely that people are so bravely sharing their personal struggles here here i thought everybody was horrible on this site how wrong i am"Not everybody I hope? | |||
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"Depression and alcohol dont go together well. Stop the drinking op "yeagh i know mate not as easy as words though | |||
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"Depression and alcohol dont go together well. Stop the drinking op yeagh i know mate not as easy as words though"Take 1 day at a time fella | |||
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"I just have to say. I'm really loving this thread. Everybody is so respectful and caring. It's also reassuring that others suffer from depression too. Isolation is the killer with depression. How lovely that people are so bravely sharing their personal struggles "I joined the forum just over four years ago after a suicidal episode. The madness of the forum helped me to feel quite sane, by comparison, and I got back to being my well-self. It won't work for everyone, because it can be hard on here, but there is often a lot of compassion here in amongst the moans and silliness. | |||
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"Its a work in progress. Feel I'm doing ok at the moment but find the winter months hard. Main thing is having self-awareness and getting the support you need. Much love x" Try and get natural daylight between 11am and 2pm - it really helps. | |||
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"My depression is no longer a black shadow hanging over my head. It's a kite I drag around with me; some days it drops and I feel low,others it flies high in a sunshiny sky and I run with it. " That's a great analogy | |||
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"My depression is no longer a black shadow hanging over my head. It's a kite I drag around with me; some days it drops and I feel low,others it flies high in a sunshiny sky and I run with it. That's a great analogy "Brilliant! | |||
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"My depression is no longer a black shadow hanging over my head. It's a kite I drag around with me; some days it drops and I feel low,others it flies high in a sunshiny sky and I run with it. That's a great analogy
Brilliant!"And another from me too. | |||
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"The gym helps me. It releases a sense of well being no tablets etc can offer" Finding what works for you is half the battle. | |||
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"Depression and alcohol dont go together well. Stop the drinking op yeagh i know mate not as easy as words though
Take 1 day at a time fella"i am mate i have a good day when my day is actually bad its when the day is really bad when i cant cope luckily those days sre getting less frequent | |||
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"I just have to say. I'm really loving this thread. Everybody is so respectful and caring. It's also reassuring that others suffer from depression too. Isolation is the killer with depression. How lovely that people are so bravely sharing their personal struggles
I joined the forum just over four years ago after a suicidal episode. The madness of the forum helped me to feel quite sane, by comparison, and I got back to being my well-self.
It won't work for everyone, because it can be hard on here, but there is often a lot of compassion here in amongst the moans and silliness.
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"My depression is no longer a black shadow hanging over my head. It's a kite I drag around with me; some days it drops and I feel low,others it flies high in a sunshiny sky and I run with it. That's a great analogy
Brilliant!
And another from me too."That should be a meme.... Very inspirational | |||
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"I just have to say. I'm really loving this thread. Everybody is so respectful and caring. It's also reassuring that others suffer from depression too. Isolation is the killer with depression. How lovely that people are so bravely sharing their personal struggles
I joined the forum just over four years ago after a suicidal episode. The madness of the forum helped me to feel quite sane, by comparison, and I got back to being my well-self.
It won't work for everyone, because it can be hard on here, but there is often a lot of compassion here in amongst the moans and silliness.
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"My depression is no longer a black shadow hanging over my head. It's a kite I drag around with me; some days it drops and I feel low,others it flies high in a sunshiny sky and I run with it. " x | |||
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"In my family depression was/is seen as a state of personal weakness. Something to be overcome by pulling one's self together. So the more depressed I became the more I hid it. Until I felt that either my head would actually physically explode or it would be better to top myself I started with counselling and that helped. Just knowing it was ok for me to feel like that and even admit to it helped. It had begun with my relationship that turned into 22 years of abuse. I got more depressed but tried to be 'normal' and cheerful to try and prevent him getting into evil tempered moods. Eventually I managed to subtly convince him to see the GP about his moods. He was diagnosed with depression and given pills etc. I thought things might be on the up. But they never changed. Thankfully I am an optimist and I'm sure that's part of what got me through it. When I eventually left him I kind of fell apart. Even though it was the right thing to do it still had a big impact. Because the police had been involved (someone else called them not me) I was assigned a victim support worker. As we talked she said "you don't realise what you've been through do you". Anyway the GP was great, Counselling turned to therapy, seeing a psychologist and also CBT. I reckon it took me 3 years to get back to 'normal' but things would still get to me. It's now over 5 years and I feel as good as I ever have and that's amazing for me. I can still get knocked back quite badly but I have come to realise my 'recovery' time is now much shorter. So with the right help and treatment things can get better. As others have said seeking help is the first step and it's a brave and strong step to take. Anyone who thinks it's all in your head and you can fix yourself has never suffered with it and will not understand." I agree completely. Unless you have been through this, you can never understand. Some people have the misconception that it is self pity, and that a person should just pull themselves together. | |||
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"I agree completely. Unless you have been through this, you can never understand. Some people have the misconception that it is self pity, and that a person should just pull themselves together. " Or they say "what have you got to be depressed about?" as if there needs to be a very specific reason. | |||
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"I just have to say. I'm really loving this thread. Everybody is so respectful and caring. It's also reassuring that others suffer from depression too. Isolation is the killer with depression. How lovely that people are so bravely sharing their personal struggles "If there's one subject on the forums that (usually) draws people together it's depression. Supportive bunch really. | |||
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"I agree completely. Unless you have been through this, you can never understand. Some people have the misconception that it is self pity, and that a person should just pull themselves together. Or they say "what have you got to be depressed about?" as if there needs to be a very specific reason." They'll never understand you sitting there crying. Feeling hopeless. Feeling embarrassed and weak, chiding yourself about that very fact. Actually asking yourself why you're crying. Then crying harder because you just don't know. | |||
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"I agree completely. Unless you have been through this, you can never understand. Some people have the misconception that it is self pity, and that a person should just pull themselves together. Or they say "what have you got to be depressed about?" as if there needs to be a very specific reason. They'll never understand you sitting there crying. Feeling hopeless. Feeling embarrassed and weak, chiding yourself about that very fact. Actually asking yourself why you're crying. Then crying harder because you just don't know. " During one really bleak episode I was inconsolable when I dropped my corn on the cob. It was out of all (normal) proportion and those around me just couldn't understand why I was wailing about it when there was another one in the pot anyway. | |||
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"During one really bleak episode I was inconsolable when I dropped my corn on the cob. It was out of all (normal) proportion and those around me just couldn't understand why I was wailing about it when there was another one in the pot anyway. That makes perfect sense to me "And me | |||
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"I've suffered as diagnosed clinical depression since I was 22 but my therapist beleives I've been depressed through out most of my childhood as well through our lovely weekly chats (Mum and Dad issues)I also have anxiety/panic attacks. Anyways these days I don't touch medication unless i spiral so low and need to level out, I find routine and fitness helps me personally the most along side my privately paid counselling. Anyone else find it ridiculous that if you break your leg you get that fixed within 48hrs but you have something mentally wrong that could lead to death you have to go on an extremely long list " Omg I spelt believe wrong | |||
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"During one really bleak episode I was inconsolable when I dropped my corn on the cob. It was out of all (normal) proportion and those around me just couldn't understand why I was wailing about it when there was another one in the pot anyway. That makes perfect sense to me "Me too. | |||
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"I've suffered as diagnosed clinical depression since I was 22 but my therapist beleives I've been depressed through out most of my childhood as well through our lovely weekly chats (Mum and Dad issues)I also have anxiety/panic attacks. Anyways these days I don't touch medication unless i spiral so low and need to level out, I find routine and fitness helps me personally the most along side my privately paid counselling. Anyone else find it ridiculous that if you break your leg you get that fixed within 48hrs but you have something mentally wrong that could lead to death you have to go on an extremely long list Omg I spelt believe wrong" Don't worry sweetie. Actually had to look to see it lol. | |||
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"I've suffered as diagnosed clinical depression since I was 22 but my therapist beleives I've been depressed through out most of my childhood as well through our lovely weekly chats (Mum and Dad issues)I also have anxiety/panic attacks. Anyways these days I don't touch medication unless i spiral so low and need to level out, I find routine and fitness helps me personally the most along side my privately paid counselling. Anyone else find it ridiculous that if you break your leg you get that fixed within 48hrs but you have something mentally wrong that could lead to death you have to go on an extremely long list " There are fewer doctors willing to specialise in mental health at the moment. Every mental health trust I have spoken to reports staff shortages. | |||
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" but it doesn't take much to tip the balance. " this part exactly - think all is well and one thing happens and i think eh up - and i know im back in that place - mostly i recognise it - tell someone who knows me well if i cant handle it - but still tend to try and cope alone most of the time - funny creatures arent we x | |||
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"During one really bleak episode I was inconsolable when I dropped my corn on the cob. It was out of all (normal) proportion and those around me just couldn't understand why I was wailing about it when there was another one in the pot anyway. That makes perfect sense to me "And me | |||
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"I've suffered as diagnosed clinical depression since I was 22 but my therapist beleives I've been depressed through out most of my childhood as well through our lovely weekly chats (Mum and Dad issues)I also have anxiety/panic attacks. Anyways these days I don't touch medication unless i spiral so low and need to level out, I find routine and fitness helps me personally the most along side my privately paid counselling. Anyone else find it ridiculous that if you break your leg you get that fixed within 48hrs but you have something mentally wrong that could lead to death you have to go on an extremely long list " The brain is far more complex to treat than a broken bone. That's why there are so many different medications to suit different brain chemistries. Unfortunately you can't just pop some plaster on and wait for it to fuse and fix itself.... How lovely if it was to be that simple though  | |||
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"I've suffered as diagnosed clinical depression since I was 22 but my therapist beleives I've been depressed through out most of my childhood as well through our lovely weekly chats (Mum and Dad issues)I also have anxiety/panic attacks. Anyways these days I don't touch medication unless i spiral so low and need to level out, I find routine and fitness helps me personally the most along side my privately paid counselling. Anyone else find it ridiculous that if you break your leg you get that fixed within 48hrs but you have something mentally wrong that could lead to death you have to go on an extremely long list The brain is far more complex to treat than a broken bone. That's why there are so many different medications to suit different brain chemistries. Unfortunately you can't just pop some plaster on and wait for it to fuse and fix itself.... How lovely if it was to be that simple though "It would be lovely to have something so visible that brings sympathy and understanding (and that people can sign and draw on). | |||
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"I've suffered as diagnosed clinical depression since I was 22 but my therapist beleives I've been depressed through out most of my childhood as well through our lovely weekly chats (Mum and Dad issues)I also have anxiety/panic attacks. Anyways these days I don't touch medication unless i spiral so low and need to level out, I find routine and fitness helps me personally the most along side my privately paid counselling. Anyone else find it ridiculous that if you break your leg you get that fixed within 48hrs but you have something mentally wrong that could lead to death you have to go on an extremely long list The brain is far more complex to treat than a broken bone. That's why there are so many different medications to suit different brain chemistries. Unfortunately you can't just pop some plaster on and wait for it to fuse and fix itself.... How lovely if it was to be that simple though "I know its not that simple but so many people are placed on lists but don't receive any form of support in the up to 2 years time it can take. That's why I pay privately but most arent in a position to. Big hugs to anyone who's feeling low | |||
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"I've had depression on and off since I was 18. There is no cure. But I've managed to spot the signs and seek help to manage the symptoms before I freefall. I'm in a good place now. Cognitive therapy helped me a lot. some people cant talk to professionals though thats the problem x In order to overcome certain obstacles, you have to step out of your comfort zone. Reach out for help, even though the idea is terrifying. I didn't want to discuss things with anyone, let alone 'strangers'. But my whole world was imploding. I had to swallow my anxiety, embarrassment and fear, and help myself. Its a tough battle, but sometimes you have to put yourself in really uncomfortable situations for the greater good. I refused to be a victim to this. Bravest thing I ever did. "
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"I've suffered as diagnosed clinical depression since I was 22 but my therapist beleives I've been depressed through out most of my childhood as well through our lovely weekly chats (Mum and Dad issues)I also have anxiety/panic attacks. Anyways these days I don't touch medication unless i spiral so low and need to level out, I find routine and fitness helps me personally the most along side my privately paid counselling. Anyone else find it ridiculous that if you break your leg you get that fixed within 48hrs but you have something mentally wrong that could lead to death you have to go on an extremely long list The brain is far more complex to treat than a broken bone. That's why there are so many different medications to suit different brain chemistries. Unfortunately you can't just pop some plaster on and wait for it to fuse and fix itself.... How lovely if it was to be that simple though
I know its not that simple but so many people are placed on lists but don't receive any form of support in the up to 2 years time it can take. That's why I pay privately but most arent in a position to.
Big hugs to anyone who's feeling low
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"Sometimes life just seems really shit, my counsellor said it's like a house of cards, ones goes and you are OK, but if loads go at once you have had it! Alcohol can make things massively worse it seems, " For those concerned about their drinking there is an online test you can do that leads to an app you can download to your phone. It's called DontBottleItUp, but I can't post the link on here. | |||
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"Ive suffered with it in the past is there such thing as a cure" I don't think there's a cure. It's always there. I've had it 22 years now. Been on medication all that time. I have good days and bad days but when I have the bad days I just know it will get better again x | |||
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"I've suffered as diagnosed clinical depression since I was 22 but my therapist beleives I've been depressed through out most of my childhood as well through our lovely weekly chats (Mum and Dad issues)I also have anxiety/panic attacks. Anyways these days I don't touch medication unless i spiral so low and need to level out, I find routine and fitness helps me personally the most along side my privately paid counselling. Anyone else find it ridiculous that if you break your leg you get that fixed within 48hrs but you have something mentally wrong that could lead to death you have to go on an extremely long list The brain is far more complex to treat than a broken bone. That's why there are so many different medications to suit different brain chemistries. Unfortunately you can't just pop some plaster on and wait for it to fuse and fix itself.... How lovely if it was to be that simple though
I know its not that simple but so many people are placed on lists but don't receive any form of support in the up to 2 years time it can take. That's why I pay privately but most arent in a position to.
Big hugs to anyone who's feeling low
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"Anyone else find it ridiculous that if you break your leg you get that fixed within 48hrs but you have something mentally wrong that could lead to death you have to go on an extremely long list I think at lease part of the reason for that is more people suffer with mental health than broken bones "broken bones are easy to diagnose - | |||
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"Anyone else find it ridiculous that if you break your leg you get that fixed within 48hrs but you have something mentally wrong that could lead to death you have to go on an extremely long list I think at lease part of the reason for that is more people suffer with mental health than broken bones
broken bones are easy to diagnose - "Yes they are my point is we don't even attempt to diagnose peoples issues until they go through a long waiting list. During that time they receive very little support maybe a 10mins drs appointment every 2 weeks or a month to get given some medication that may not even be truly subtable for that persons problem. | |||
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"I know this is very simplistic but this always rings true to me anyway In life, there are only two things to worry about— Either you are well or you are sick. If you are well, there is nothing to worry about, But if you are sick, there are only two things to worry about— Either you will get well or you will die. If you get well, there is nothing to worry about, But if you die, there are only two things to worry about— Either you will go to heaven or hell. If you go to heaven, there is nothing to worry about. And if you go to hell, you’ll be so busy shaking hands with all your friends You won’t have time to worry!" So you're basically saying "cheer up! It might never happen". | |||
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"I know this is very simplistic but this always rings true to me anyway In life, there are only two things to worry about— Either you are well or you are sick. If you are well, there is nothing to worry about, But if you are sick, there are only two things to worry about— Either you will get well or you will die. If you get well, there is nothing to worry about, But if you die, there are only two things to worry about— Either you will go to heaven or hell. If you go to heaven, there is nothing to worry about. And if you go to hell, you’ll be so busy shaking hands with all your friends You won’t have time to worry! So you're basically saying "cheer up! It might never happen". "Nope, not at all it just means that worrying doesn't change anything at all!! I know it's never as simple as that but sometimes it's just about learning to be able to let it go easier said than done I appreciate that | |||
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"I know this is very simplistic but this always rings true to me anyway In life, there are only two things to worry about— Either you are well or you are sick. If you are well, there is nothing to worry about, But if you are sick, there are only two things to worry about— Either you will get well or you will die. If you get well, there is nothing to worry about, But if you die, there are only two things to worry about— Either you will go to heaven or hell. If you go to heaven, there is nothing to worry about. And if you go to hell, you’ll be so busy shaking hands with all your friends You won’t have time to worry! So you're basically saying "cheer up! It might never happen". "Working in the mental health system, I would have thought you would have grasped the complexities of the depressed mind... If not completely understood it. This disappoints me to be honest | |||
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"I've had depression on and off since I was 18. There is no cure. But I've managed to spot the signs and seek help to manage the symptoms before I freefall. I'm in a good place now. Cognitive therapy helped me a lot. some people cant talk to professionals though thats the problem x" Maybe you haven't found the right person... | |||
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"I know this is very simplistic but this always rings true to me anyway In life, there are only two things to worry about— Either you are well or you are sick. If you are well, there is nothing to worry about, But if you are sick, there are only two things to worry about— Either you will get well or you will die. If you get well, there is nothing to worry about, But if you die, there are only two things to worry about— Either you will go to heaven or hell. If you go to heaven, there is nothing to worry about. And if you go to hell, you’ll be so busy shaking hands with all your friends You won’t have time to worry! So you're basically saying "cheer up! It might never happen".
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I don't and never have suffered from depression .but of coarse I've had times in my life where I have felt complete apathy no will to do anything .
I don't know how someone feels who suffers from depression but I have enough empathy from my own life experiences to understand it must be a very very hard illness to over come for those who suffer .
if only the human condition was as easy to manage as you seen to think .god you would be rich by now selling your one page book on how to have a depression free life .
I'm sure you meant well op but basically all you saying is look on the positive .which is very easy to say when your not the one depressed depression is just not that easy to cure nor do such thoughts and words help those who suffer.
after all you can bet a depression suffer has heard similar stuff all there life from people who don't suffer from depression .
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"During one really bleak episode I was inconsolable when I dropped my corn on the cob. It was out of all (normal) proportion and those around me just couldn't understand why I was wailing about it when there was another one in the pot anyway. I apparently looked like I had a gun to my head whenever the phone rang or post came through the door. ..the time it both happened at same time is when I burst out crying. ..my wife (ex now) held me,called doctors and demanded an appointment while I rocked back and forth. ..my saddest and best day as I had finally realised I had a problem and there were people who were going to listen...to the guy who said he was a man's man and this thread had helped him..there is too many people who hide away their pain, go talk to someone. .being afraid and ashamed is only letting it win...have a beautiful day everyone and stay strong "Thats exactly how i felt ashamed and i just though that people would say what has she got to be depressed about etc anyway take care and have a nice day | |||
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"I've had depression on and off since I was 18. There is no cure. But I've managed to spot the signs and seek help to manage the symptoms before I freefall. I'm in a good place now. Cognitive therapy helped me a lot. " im so pleased your ok now x | |||
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"I just have to say. I'm really loving this thread. Everybody is so respectful and caring. It's also reassuring that others suffer from depression too. Isolation is the killer with depression. How lovely that people are so bravely sharing their personal struggles
I joined the forum just over four years ago after a suicidal episode. The madness of the forum helped me to feel quite sane, by comparison, and I got back to being my well-self.
It won't work for everyone, because it can be hard on here, but there is often a lot of compassion here in amongst the moans and silliness.
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"In my family depression was/is seen as a state of personal weakness. Something to be overcome by pulling one's self together. So the more depressed I became the more I hid it. Until I felt that either my head would actually physically explode or it would be better to top myself I started with counselling and that helped. Just knowing it was ok for me to feel like that and even admit to it helped. It had begun with my relationship that turned into 22 years of abuse. I got more depressed but tried to be 'normal' and cheerful to try and prevent him getting into evil tempered moods. Eventually I managed to subtly convince him to see the GP about his moods. He was diagnosed with depression and given pills etc. I thought things might be on the up. But they never changed. Thankfully I am an optimist and I'm sure that's part of what got me through it. When I eventually left him I kind of fell apart. Even though it was the right thing to do it still had a big impact. Because the police had been involved (someone else called them not me) I was assigned a victim support worker. As we talked she said "you don't realise what you've been through do you". Anyway the GP was great, Counselling turned to therapy, seeing a psychologist and also CBT. I reckon it took me 3 years to get back to 'normal' but things would still get to me. It's now over 5 years and I feel as good as I ever have and that's amazing for me. I can still get knocked back quite badly but I have come to realise my 'recovery' time is now much shorter. So with the right help and treatment things can get better. As others have said seeking help is the first step and it's a brave and strong step to take. Anyone who thinks it's all in your head and you can fix yourself has never suffered with it and will not understand." wow you have had it tough im so sorry but its great that you battled through this you are stronger than you think x | |||
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"I just have to say. I'm really loving this thread. Everybody is so respectful and caring. It's also reassuring that others suffer from depression too. Isolation is the killer with depression. How lovely that people are so bravely sharing their personal struggles
If there's one subject on the forums that (usually) draws people together it's depression.
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"I agree completely. Unless you have been through this, you can never understand. Some people have the misconception that it is self pity, and that a person should just pull themselves together. Or they say "what have you got to be depressed about?" as if there needs to be a very specific reason. They'll never understand you sitting there crying. Feeling hopeless. Feeling embarrassed and weak, chiding yourself about that very fact. Actually asking yourself why you're crying. Then crying harder because you just don't know. During one really bleak episode I was inconsolable when I dropped my corn on the cob. It was out of all (normal) proportion and those around me just couldn't understand why I was wailing about it when there was another one in the pot anyway. " it dont take alot for you to explode like that is just the pressure that builds inside x | |||
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"Yes I suffer depression and as we speak I'm suffering bad depression have been feeling quite suicidal ??" Please talk to someone | |||
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"Yes I suffer depression and as we speak I'm suffering bad depression have been feeling quite suicidal ??" Please talk to your doctor or go to a friend you trust and tell them how you are feeling. I've been where you are. There's the Samaritans too. I'm not sure I'm allowed to post number here but Google search will tell you. You're not alone. | |||
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"Sometimes life just seems really shit, my counsellor said it's like a house of cards, ones goes and you are OK, but if loads go at once you have had it! Alcohol can make things massively worse it seems, " it is but when in having a really bad day with it i like to have a drink to try and forget and go out with friends i do forget untill i get back home again | |||
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"Had PND after my kids were born. Had group and single counselling. Took me ages to appreciate that it's a chemical imbalance and not my fault. I'm slowly coming off Citalopram now. It's utterly shite but thankfully a lot of us can empathise "thats what i was on too never worked for me neither x | |||
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"Yes I suffer depression and as we speak I'm suffering bad depression have been feeling quite suicidal ??" please go and talk to someone trust me it will help you may think that you are alone but your not i feel for you as ive been there x x | |||
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"Had PND after my kids were born. Had group and single counselling. Took me ages to appreciate that it's a chemical imbalance and not my fault. I'm slowly coming off Citalopram now. It's utterly shite but thankfully a lot of us can empathise "hi I've just been prescribed these did you take them in the morning or evening. | |||
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"I know this is very simplistic but this always rings true to me anyway In life, there are only two things to worry about— Either you are well or you are sick. If you are well, there is nothing to worry about, But if you are sick, there are only two things to worry about— Either you will get well or you will die. If you get well, there is nothing to worry about, But if you die, there are only two things to worry about— Either you will go to heaven or hell. If you go to heaven, there is nothing to worry about. And if you go to hell, you’ll be so busy shaking hands with all your friends You won’t have time to worry! So you're basically saying "cheer up! It might never happen".
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I don't and never have suffered from depression .but of coarse I've had times in my life where I have felt complete apathy no will to do anything .
I don't know how someone feels who suffers from depression but I have enough empathy from my own life experiences to understand it must be a very very hard illness to over come for those who suffer .
if only the human condition was as easy to manage as you seen to think .god you would be rich by now selling your one page book on how to have a depression free life .
I'm sure you meant well op but basically all you saying is look on the positive .which is very easy to say when your not the one depressed depression is just not that easy to cure nor do such thoughts and words help those who suffer.
after all you can bet a depression suffer has heard similar stuff all there life from people who don't suffer from depression .
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"I know this is very simplistic but this always rings true to me anyway In life, there are only two things to worry about— Either you are well or you are sick. If you are well, there is nothing to worry about, But if you are sick, there are only two things to worry about— Either you will get well or you will die. If you get well, there is nothing to worry about, But if you die, there are only two things to worry about— Either you will go to heaven or hell. If you go to heaven, there is nothing to worry about. And if you go to hell, you’ll be so busy shaking hands with all your friends You won’t have time to worry! So you're basically saying "cheer up! It might never happen". "That's not how I read it. I was once told there are two rules to mental wellbeing; 1) Don't sweat about the small stuff. 2) It's all small stuff. Sometimes it's really challenging to see things as "small stuff", but in the grand scheme of things, most things are. The key to managing your own mental health is to realise and accept that you have the power to interpret and control your feelings, you have a choice about how you interpret and react to the stuff that goes on around you. As a poster above said about the corn on the cob; out of control feelings allow you to believe that incident is like the end of the world, in control emotions allow you to say "no problem, I have another one". The big challenge is learning the coping skills that will give us the strength, power and resolve to see things that way. I strongly recommend three books; Rhinoceros Success by Scott Alexander, SUMO by Paul McGhee and Begin it now by Susan Heywood. All three will make you smile. And smiling is (in my mind) one of the first steps to getting to a better place. It's a hard road back, you fall over now and again but eventuality you're on your feet more than you're flat on your face. Mental health is nothing to be ashamed of. It's not being weak. Holding your hand up and saying "I have a problem", reaching out and "saying please help me" shows great strength, great character. And it's that strength you need to start the journey back. Tiny steps people, tiny steps. | |||
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"I'm weaning myself off of a med that gives me unbelievable nightmares and leaves me in a mongy, zombied state. It helped me initially but now I am unable to remember words or gauge reaction to situations correctly. I'd really love natural sleep again. My point being that meds can help, initially but only if you have therapy on the horizon too, which I don't. I've been waiting 2 years now. Meds can and do often help but talking is very important! Being open about mental illness is on the increase I'm delighted to see. It's nothing at all to be ashamed of and of course we're more than a label. We're people too! " Please seek help coming off any medication you are feeling better because the meds are doing their job x | |||
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"I'm weaning myself off of a med that gives me unbelievable nightmares and leaves me in a mongy, zombied state. It helped me initially but now I am unable to remember words or gauge reaction to situations correctly. I'd really love natural sleep again. My point being that meds can help, initially but only if you have therapy on the horizon too, which I don't. I've been waiting 2 years now. Meds can and do often help but talking is very important! Being open about mental illness is on the increase I'm delighted to see. It's nothing at all to be ashamed of and of course we're more than a label. We're people too! Please seek help coming off any medication you are feeling better because the meds are doing theirx job x" Oh I am, thank you. | |||
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"I suffer with it and have done on and off for years on medication again but dont have very supportive family i just keep getting told snap out of it if it was only that easy" I would book an appointment with your GP they'll refer you to your local mental health unit for assessment. You'll see an assessor then a social worker. They should offer help with financial or debt problems if you have them,and book you in to see a specialist doctor. They'll decide whether and what type of medication you might need to be on. Whether it's CBT and drugs will depend on the reasons for your depression. For example. Patients who suffer due to historical abuse are much harder to treat than say someone with financial and relationship problems. If it's serious they will admit you. If it's really bad you can ask for a voluntary section. If they think you're handling things better they can put you on day release. There's help out there even if you can't talk to family or friends. | |||
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"I'm weaning myself off of a med that gives me unbelievable nightmares and leaves me in a mongy, zombied state. It helped me initially but now I am unable to remember words or gauge reaction to situations correctly. I'd really love natural sleep again. My point being that meds can help, initially but only if you have therapy on the horizon too, which I don't. I've been waiting 2 years now. Meds can and do often help but talking is very important! Being open about mental illness is on the increase I'm delighted to see. It's nothing at all to be ashamed of and of course we're more than a label. We're people too! " I'm weaning myself off meds too. One down and one to go
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"Had PND after my kids were born. Had group and single counselling. Took me ages to appreciate that it's a chemical imbalance and not my fault. I'm slowly coming off Citalopram now. It's utterly shite but thankfully a lot of us can empathise hi I've just been prescribed these did you take them in the morning or evening."in the morning thats when i took mine its takes weeks to kick in even a month or two they didnt work for me though | |||
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