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"Woo-chester-shire?" Yes!!! | |||
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"Oh! Did I miss Scotland and Wales getting representation in the U.N.? I should really watch more news. " That's because the UK is the represented party | |||
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"ruled by england?" While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions | |||
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"Lets see what we all think Americans will never get about us brits Scotland and Wales are ruled by England but are seperate countries (not all americans, but I have encountered some who refuse to accept it) And What a cheeky Nandos is" | |||
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"Yeah, BURN THEM ALL." STUPID YANKS. | |||
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"The casual insistence that there are three accents in the UK. 1/ the "upper class" accent 2/ the Dick Van Dyke barstardisatio of Cockney 3/ Irish " I've only been to America once, New York, 3 time while I was there I was asked are you Canadian | |||
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"The casual insistence that there are three accents in the UK. 1/ the "upper class" accent 2/ the Dick Van Dyke barstardisatio of Cockney 3/ Irish " Or what supercalafragalisticexpialidosciouse means | |||
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"The casual insistence that there are three accents in the UK. 1/ the "upper class" accent 2/ the Dick Van Dyke barstardisatio of Cockney 3/ Irish I've only been to America once, New York, 3 time while I was there I was asked are you Canadian " Eh? | |||
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"The casual insistence that there are three accents in the UK. 1/ the "upper class" accent 2/ the Dick Van Dyke barstardisatio of Cockney 3/ Irish Or what supercalafragalisticexpialidosciouse means " They normally ask me if I'm d*unk when they hear me speak :') | |||
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"The casual insistence that there are three accents in the UK. 1/ the "upper class" accent 2/ the Dick Van Dyke barstardisatio of Cockney 3/ Irish I've only been to America once, New York, 3 time while I was there I was asked are you Canadian " People in England always ask me if I'm from Ireland, Canada, or New Zealand, depending on where I am. | |||
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"Yeah, BURN THEM ALL. STUPID YANKS." +1. Goddamn Colonials need putting in their place. Who do they think they are, the richest and most successful nation in the world? Tsk | |||
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"That their national anthem was originally an English drinking song and that the bones of the dragon slayed by St George are not on show in the National History museum " The tune for the British national anthem is a kid's song in America. Hearing it always gives me flashbacks to third grade. -Marc | |||
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"The casual insistence that there are three accents in the UK. 1/ the "upper class" accent 2/ the Dick Van Dyke barstardisatio of Cockney 3/ Irish I've only been to America once, New York, 3 time while I was there I was asked are you Canadian People in England always ask me if I'm from Ireland, Canada, or New Zealand, depending on where I am." We thought you were South African | |||
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"ruled by england? While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions" There is no English government. | |||
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"i love americans, well ive loved two in my life..and ive lived there as well, but if i get asked to say 'harry potter' one more time........ " I was asked to say a very naughty word by an American once. | |||
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"Do not let farrage in have seen him with trump x" ...what a missed opportunity for world peace that was! | |||
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"That we form opinions on others based on in which order they put the milk tea." I bet you guys are milk second people | |||
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"Lets see what we all think Americans will never get about us brits Scotland and Wales are ruled by England but are seperate countries (not all americans, but I have encountered some who refuse to accept it) And What a cheeky Nandos is" I'm an unpatriotic Oirish... | |||
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"That we form opinions on others based on in which order they put the milk tea." There is only one answer to this question.... | |||
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"ruled by england? While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions" Nicola Sturgeon may disagree lol | |||
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"The correct pronunciation of "water"... This is the word I had the most problems with. Apparently there's a d in the middle of it " And it's pronounced AL-U-MIN-I-UM Not AL-OO-MIN-YUM | |||
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"ruled by england? While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions There is no English government." uk government....surely is a representation of the united kingdom... | |||
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"The casual insistence that there are three accents in the UK. 1/ the "upper class" accent 2/ the Dick Van Dyke barstardisatio of Cockney 3/ Irish " And the Welsh? | |||
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"i love americans, well ive loved two in my life..and ive lived there as well, but if i get asked to say 'harry potter' one more time........ " If I give you 20p ( a shiny 20p).. Will you say Harry Potter for us? | |||
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"That their national anthem was originally an English drinking song and that the bones of the dragon slayed by St George are not on show in the National History museum The tune for the British national anthem is a kid's song in America. Hearing it always gives me flashbacks to third grade. -Marc" I hope you agree that our national anthem tune is rubbish! Once toured the USA and had a Union Flag across the back of our people carrier. Was hilarious some of the guesses as to where it came from! | |||
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"Their spelling... It's MUM, not mom. GREY, not gray. COLOUR, not color.... " 'Mom' drives me up the wall. Facepalm. | |||
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"ruled by england? While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions There is no English government. uk government....surely is a representation of the united kingdom..." It is. Every person in the UK has the same level of representation in the UK government. | |||
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"The casual insistence that there are three accents in the UK. 1/ the "upper class" accent 2/ the Dick Van Dyke barstardisatio of Cockney 3/ Irish I've only been to America once, New York, 3 time while I was there I was asked are you Canadian " I kept getting asked if I was Australian when I lived there. Also why is it London England and not Great Britain? | |||
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"That their national anthem was originally an English drinking song and that the bones of the dragon slayed by St George are not on show in the National History museum The tune for the British national anthem is a kid's song in America. Hearing it always gives me flashbacks to third grade. -Marc" Your alive and well? | |||
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"That their national anthem was originally an English drinking song and that the bones of the dragon slayed by St George are not on show in the National History museum The tune for the British national anthem is a kid's song in America. Hearing it always gives me flashbacks to third grade. -Marc" I almost spilt my Earl Grey in outrage. | |||
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"I think Americans could probably understand anything given enough context and information. I'm English and I'm not entirely sure why there's a cheeky in front of nandos or pint. Infact if I heard anyone saying that in real life I'd mark them down as a twat" | |||
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"The casual insistence that there are three accents in the UK. 1/ the "upper class" accent 2/ the Dick Van Dyke barstardisatio of Cockney 3/ Irish And the Welsh?" ...is what I tried to explain to the 6'2" black leather-clad taxi driver in Santa Somewhere as we drove around in a big pink Cadillac while he confidently informed me that was the case | |||
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"ruled by england? While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions There is no English government." The houses of parliment are..... They oversea education and healthcare in england, and also make the decisions that effect wales, scotland and northern ireland too | |||
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"Their spelling... It's MUM, not mom. GREY, not gray. COLOUR, not color.... " Crisps not chips Chips not fries | |||
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"i love americans, well ive loved two in my life..and ive lived there as well, but if i get asked to say 'harry potter' one more time........ If I give you 20p ( a shiny 20p).. Will you say Harry Potter for us? " the second word is off... | |||
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"They don't know you don't pronounce the w in Norwich " Trying to explaing to them that its Norfuck, not Norfolk | |||
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"The casual insistence that there are three accents in the UK. 1/ the "upper class" accent 2/ the Dick Van Dyke barstardisatio of Cockney 3/ Irish I've only been to America once, New York, 3 time while I was there I was asked are you Canadian I kept getting asked if I was Australian when I lived there. Also why is it London England and not Great Britain? " They call it London England, because they are so un-original with place names... (New) York Washington (Tyne & Wear) Paris (Texas, not France...) Birmingham (Alabhama) They seem to need to confirm which city they are talking about.... | |||
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"The correct pronunciation of "water"... This is the word I had the most problems with. Apparently there's a d in the middle of it And it's pronounced AL-U-MIN-I-UM Not AL-OO-MIN-YUM" and you pronounce herbs with the h at the front not erbs | |||
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"ruled by england? While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions There is no English government. The houses of parliment are..... They oversea education and healthcare in england, and also make the decisions that effect wales, scotland and northern ireland too" No they aren't. There is no English Parliament. The U.K. government takes decisions on behalf of the U.K., there's just an extra layer of representation in Wales and Scotland. Perhaps Americans don't understand what you're saying because it's incorrect. | |||
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"ruled by england? While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions There is no English government. The houses of parliment are..... They oversea education and healthcare in england, and also make the decisions that effect wales, scotland and northern ireland too No they aren't. There is no English Parliament. The U.K. government takes decisions on behalf of the U.K., there's just an extra layer of representation in Wales and Scotland. Perhaps Americans don't understand what you're saying because it's incorrect." I've always been lead to believe that there was an English government. That's how I've always heard it phrased here | |||
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"Cricket !" ...and what an institution! Civilised spectating arrangements (you can have a bunch of 40 blokes drinking beer while wearing pink tutus, and no-one cares) Lunch, afternoon tea, and a brilliant soundtrack!! | |||
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"Cricket .... " Tbd, I don't understand cricket | |||
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"ruled by england? While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions There is no English government. The houses of parliment are..... They oversea education and healthcare in england, and also make the decisions that effect wales, scotland and northern ireland too No they aren't. There is no English Parliament. The U.K. government takes decisions on behalf of the U.K., there's just an extra layer of representation in Wales and Scotland. Perhaps Americans don't understand what you're saying because it's incorrect. I've always been lead to believe that there was an English government. That's how I've always heard it phrased here" Can a mod please change the title to "Things the Welsh will never understand". Thanks. | |||
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"Cricket .... Tbd, I don't understand cricket " You just have to score more than the other team. Quite honestly, it's hypnotic. But a brilliant British institution@ | |||
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"ruled by england? While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions There is no English government. The houses of parliment are..... They oversea education and healthcare in england, and also make the decisions that effect wales, scotland and northern ireland too No they aren't. There is no English Parliament. The U.K. government takes decisions on behalf of the U.K., there's just an extra layer of representation in Wales and Scotland. Perhaps Americans don't understand what you're saying because it's incorrect. I've always been lead to believe that there was an English government. That's how I've always heard it phrased here" It isn't an English government, there is literally no such thing. If you live in England, you have the UK government and that's it. If you live in Wales or Scotland, you're represented by the UK government *and* the Scottish Parliament or Welsh assembly. | |||
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"They all think we drink warm beer" Oh god yes. I think this comes from world war 2. I used to follow the model London Andrews on tumblr, but stopped following her after she whinged about the warm beer after visiting the UK. | |||
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"ruled by england? While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions There is no English government. The houses of parliment are..... They oversea education and healthcare in england, and also make the decisions that effect wales, scotland and northern ireland too" I think you are confusing the location for such matters as being more important than the countries they represent. there is english law, scots law etc..but then there is collectively UK law..which has to be represented by the nations it represents. I'm not very politically minded..but I'm sure I'm right......so therefore, england cannot make laws for scotland. | |||
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"ruled by england? While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions There is no English government. The houses of parliment are..... They oversea education and healthcare in england, and also make the decisions that effect wales, scotland and northern ireland too No they aren't. There is no English Parliament. The U.K. government takes decisions on behalf of the U.K., there's just an extra layer of representation in Wales and Scotland. Perhaps Americans don't understand what you're saying because it's incorrect. I've always been lead to believe that there was an English government. That's how I've always heard it phrased here Can a mod please change the title to "Things the Welsh will never understand". Thanks." In all fairness I do talk to a lot of people who want an independant Wales, so that may be why I was incorrect. But still, my original point was that England, scotland and Wales are just one big country devided into states as a lot of them believe. Tbh, I had to explain to one american what it meant by us leaving Europe | |||
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"They all think we drink warm beer" I actually had a California say this to me but I couldn't disprove her. | |||
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"ruled by england? While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions Nicola Sturgeon may disagree lol" Is this the same Nicola Sturgeon who still wants Scottish Independence even thought the income from oil has tanked so spectacularly (by over 90%!!) that even a good vet couldn't revive the Scottish economy? | |||
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"That their national anthem was originally an English drinking song and that the bones of the dragon slayed by St George are not on show in the National History museum The tune for the British national anthem is a kid's song in America. Hearing it always gives me flashbacks to third grade. -Marc Your alive and well? " Yep, just having my annual visit to the forums to take a look. -Marc | |||
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"Despite the idiocy the internet has brought to many things..I really think, some of the statements that used to be made from americans has changed for the better.. descriptions for england(or the uk) as 'foggy', dont seem that apparent.." More like wet. And humid. Sometimes sunny, but we may die if that happens too long. | |||
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"God's language ... Geordie ... ... hence Cheryl Cole going down sooooo badly ... (as if that possible)...lol" I think it wasn't just her accent. She's devoid of any charisma. | |||
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"i'm watching.... thats all i have to say!!!! " Lol, it's nothing personal | |||
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"Pronunciation. To quote Eddie Izzard... "We say 'herbs', because there's a fucking 'H' in it" " Yes, that is as mysterious as it is pointless | |||
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"our sence of humor have you seen what they did to red dwarf and the office " Red dwarf as well?? | |||
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"our sence of humor have you seen what they did to red dwarf and the office " You see I don't think that's totally fair, but then again when I think of funny stuff out of the USA there's a Canadian involved somewhere | |||
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"Pronunciation. To quote Eddie Izzard... "We say 'herbs', because there's a fucking 'H' in it" Yes, that is as mysterious as it is pointless " We drop the H in a lot of our words though. Like "its over 'ere" | |||
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"our sence of humor have you seen what they did to red dwarf and the office " There is absolutely tonnes of decent American comedy compared to a very small amount of English comedy these days. | |||
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"Woo-chester-shire?" Faggots for tea (again) | |||
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"Pronunciation. To quote Eddie Izzard... "We say 'herbs', because there's a fucking 'H' in it" Yes, that is as mysterious as it is pointless We drop the H in a lot of our words though. Like "its over 'ere"" Only common people do that, darling | |||
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"Woo-chester-shire? Faggots for tea (again)" Tbf, we say Los Angel-eeeze, whereas the correct pronunciation is Los Angel-is. Just as it's not New Orleans, it's N'orlins. | |||
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"our sence of humor have you seen what they did to red dwarf and the office There is absolutely tonnes of decent American comedy compared to a very small amount of English comedy these days. " East Bound and Down is one of the funniest shows I've ever seen | |||
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" Scotland and Wales are ruled by England but are seperate countries" I refuse to accept this and I'm not even American, just an Anglophile. | |||
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" Scotland and Wales are ruled by England but are seperate countries I refuse to accept this and I'm not even American, just an Anglophile." What I meant by it is that Scotland and Wales are also countries, not states as some americans think | |||
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"Cricket .... Tbd, I don't understand cricket " Nor do Scots | |||
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"Scones (or scones). And the stone of Scone " | |||
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"our sence of humor have you seen what they did to red dwarf and the office There is absolutely tonnes of decent American comedy compared to a very small amount of English comedy these days. East Bound and Down is one of the funniest shows I've ever seen" Never seen it, but I'm a big fan of Danny McBride, so will have to try it. | |||
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"Asking for a spare fag could result in some funny looks...." ...or a good time. | |||
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""Two nations divided by a common language." ~ W. Churchill* . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * half-American, all-time Greatest Briton and introducer of the portable gallows to Egypt and of gassing Kurds from the air whilst Colonial Secretary. " Was he that posh fat bloke from Peaky Blinders? | |||
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"That we don't revere our national signifiers the way they do. They all love their flag, many of us hate ours. They all love their national anthem whereas we.....you get the picture. And that you don't have to put your bloody hand on your heart when you sing the thing!" . It's not that we don't love our flag , it's because the first time we raise it or put it on show in our own homes/gardens were call RACISTS ! | |||
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"Apparently George Bush asked Charlotte Church where she came from, she told him she was from Wales. He then asked her what country Wales was in Not amazingly reassuring from the most powerful man in the world at that time. " about as powerful as my bath farts .. | |||
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"Lets see what we all think Americans will never get about us brits Scotland and Wales are ruled by England but are seperate countries (not all americans, but I have encountered some who refuse to accept it) And What a cheeky Nandos is" Fact Washington is named after a small place in England north east and the man called Washington lived in the North East of England you mention this a American loses it say that we would have our asses kicked in a war lol after the Google Washington and find out you are correct lol . | |||
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"A taxi driver in Vegas once asked if we had You Tube over in England. When I said "yeah.." he then asked "what language is it in?" Dumbass " You mean 'stupid bottom' | |||
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"A taxi driver in Vegas once asked if we had You Tube over in England. When I said "yeah.." he then asked "what language is it in?" Dumbass " See, I was in Vegas one time with an Australian friend and we'd gone out into the boon docks on some mission only to discover that we were a long way out of town on a typically roasting day. We eventually got lucky and found a bus stop. When the bus arrived and we asked how much to get back to the Strip, we were surprised that the driver just waved us aboard. Sat, downstairs at the back. 2 mins later the driver pipes up on the tannoy to advise the passengers that, "We have two very special travelers from England today..." Very kind but WTF?! | |||
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"Oh! Did I miss Scotland and Wales getting representation in the U.N.? I should really watch more news. That's because the UK is the represented party " The UK isn't a party This is a very strange thread. | |||
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"Oh! Did I miss Scotland and Wales getting representation in the U.N.? I should really watch more news. " . Oh dear.... You Americans just don't get that you can't put Brits in they're place about British stuff | |||
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"ruled by england? While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions There is no English government. The houses of parliment are..... They oversea education and healthcare in england, and also make the decisions that effect wales, scotland and northern ireland too No they aren't. There is no English Parliament. The U.K. government takes decisions on behalf of the U.K., there's just an extra layer of representation in Wales and Scotland. Perhaps Americans don't understand what you're saying because it's incorrect. I've always been lead to believe that there was an English government. That's how I've always heard it phrased here Can a mod please change the title to "Things the Welsh will never understand". Thanks. In all fairness I do talk to a lot of people who want an independant Wales, so that may be why I was incorrect. But still, my original point was that England, scotland and Wales are just one big country devided into states as a lot of them believe. Tbh, I had to explain to one american what it meant by us leaving Europe" We're not leaving Europe. We have voted to leave the EU. We will remain part of Europe. I echo the comment above that it's no wonder Americans don't understand things that actually aren't the case at all! | |||
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"A taxi driver in Vegas once asked if we had You Tube over in England. When I said "yeah.." he then asked "what language is it in?" Dumbass See, I was in Vegas one time with an Australian friend and we'd gone out into the boon docks on some mission only to discover that we were a long way out of town on a typically roasting day. We eventually got lucky and found a bus stop. When the bus arrived and we asked how much to get back to the Strip, we were surprised that the driver just waved us aboard. Sat, downstairs at the back. 2 mins later the driver pipes up on the tannoy to advise the passengers that, "We have two very special travelers from England today..." Very kind but WTF?!" They looove the accent. It opens all sorts of interesting doors. | |||
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"How about the American dream, what is that? Do they actually know or is that just their saying " That's a pretty easy concept. It's about the possibility of being able to have a 'better' life, (whatever better means to the individual), regardless of your background. To be able to aspire to greater things, and realistically achieve them. | |||
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"ruled by england? While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions Nicola Sturgeon may disagree lol Is this the same Nicola Sturgeon who still wants Scottish Independence even thought the income from oil has tanked so spectacularly (by over 90%!!) that even a good vet couldn't revive the Scottish economy? " Yes, so? That's not really relevant. The Scottish are still not "ruled by the English". | |||
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"i'm watching.... thats all i have to say!!!! " .. You know the answer is cricket... For a country that insists most sports games finish 86- 52... They cannot grasp how you can play a game for five fucking days only to finish in a draw | |||
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"ruled by england? While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions Nicola Sturgeon may disagree lol Is this the same Nicola Sturgeon who still wants Scottish Independence even thought the income from oil has tanked so spectacularly (by over 90%!!) that even a good vet couldn't revive the Scottish economy? Yes, so? That's not really relevant. The Scottish are still not "ruled by the English"." . Lol they haven't grasped that there is no English government, it's the UK government that's based in London.... in fact England is the only country in the union that DOESN'T have any devolved power | |||
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"ruled by england? While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions There is no English government. The houses of parliment are..... They oversea education and healthcare in england, and also make the decisions that effect wales, scotland and northern ireland too No they aren't. There is no English Parliament. The U.K. government takes decisions on behalf of the U.K., there's just an extra layer of representation in Wales and Scotland. Perhaps Americans don't understand what you're saying because it's incorrect. I've always been lead to believe that there was an English government. That's how I've always heard it phrased here" As Ruby said, you're wrong. There is no English government. I'm at this thread. Never mind Americans, how can some Brits know so little about the UK? | |||
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"ruled by england? While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions Nicola Sturgeon may disagree lol Is this the same Nicola Sturgeon who still wants Scottish Independence even thought the income from oil has tanked so spectacularly (by over 90%!!) that even a good vet couldn't revive the Scottish economy? Yes, so? That's not really relevant. The Scottish are still not "ruled by the English".. Lol they haven't grasped that there is no English government, it's the UK government that's based in London.... in fact England is the only country in the union that DOESN'T have any devolved power" Which "they" haven't grasped this? | |||
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"ruled by england? While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions There is no English government. The houses of parliment are..... They oversea education and healthcare in england, and also make the decisions that effect wales, scotland and northern ireland too No they aren't. There is no English Parliament. The U.K. government takes decisions on behalf of the U.K., there's just an extra layer of representation in Wales and Scotland. Perhaps Americans don't understand what you're saying because it's incorrect. I've always been lead to believe that there was an English government. That's how I've always heard it phrased here Can a mod please change the title to "Things the Welsh will never understand". Thanks. In all fairness I do talk to a lot of people who want an independant Wales, so that may be why I was incorrect. But still, my original point was that England, scotland and Wales are just one big country devided into states as a lot of them believe. Tbh, I had to explain to one american what it meant by us leaving Europe We're not leaving Europe. We have voted to leave the EU. We will remain part of Europe. I echo the comment above that it's no wonder Americans don't understand things that actually aren't the case at all!" I know. That's what I meant. I know we physically cannot leave Europe, but is what some Americans I have spoken to believe. Its because they used the term EU as a shorter way to call Europe (as they love to abbrieviate everything it seems). | |||
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"That their national anthem was originally an English drinking song and that the bones of the dragon slayed by St George are not on show in the National History museum The tune for the British national anthem is a kid's song in America. Hearing it always gives me flashbacks to third grade. -Marc Your alive and well? Yep, just having my annual visit to the forums to take a look. -Marc" Your not missing much, same old drivel | |||
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"Oh! Did I miss Scotland and Wales getting representation in the U.N.? I should really watch more news. That's because the UK is the represented party The UK isn't a party This is a very strange thread." I use party as a way to say that it's the represented whole. You know, how in court they sometimes call someone the represented party | |||
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"ruled by england? While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions Nicola Sturgeon may disagree lol Is this the same Nicola Sturgeon who still wants Scottish Independence even thought the income from oil has tanked so spectacularly (by over 90%!!) that even a good vet couldn't revive the Scottish economy? Yes, so? That's not really relevant. The Scottish are still not "ruled by the English".. Lol they haven't grasped that there is no English government, it's the UK government that's based in London.... in fact England is the only country in the union that DOESN'T have any devolved power Which "they" haven't grasped this?" . The person wrote... While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions | |||
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"ruled by england? While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions There is no English government. The houses of parliment are..... They oversea education and healthcare in england, and also make the decisions that effect wales, scotland and northern ireland too No they aren't. There is no English Parliament. The U.K. government takes decisions on behalf of the U.K., there's just an extra layer of representation in Wales and Scotland. Perhaps Americans don't understand what you're saying because it's incorrect. I've always been lead to believe that there was an English government. That's how I've always heard it phrased here Can a mod please change the title to "Things the Welsh will never understand". Thanks. In all fairness I do talk to a lot of people who want an independant Wales, so that may be why I was incorrect. But still, my original point was that England, scotland and Wales are just one big country devided into states as a lot of them believe. Tbh, I had to explain to one american what it meant by us leaving Europe We're not leaving Europe. We have voted to leave the EU. We will remain part of Europe. I echo the comment above that it's no wonder Americans don't understand things that actually aren't the case at all! I know. That's what I meant. I know we physically cannot leave Europe, but is what some Americans I have spoken to believe. Its because they used the term EU as a shorter way to call Europe (as they love to abbrieviate everything it seems)." But "leaving Europe" means nothing. You can't explain what leaving Europe means, only that we're leaving (possibly) the EU, not Europe. I don't think a lot of Americans know about the EU or talk about it at all anyway. I've never heard an American call Europe the EU. Courtney/Marc/Fabio is Europe referred to as the EU in the States? And physically, we have left Europe. We're an island! | |||
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"Oh! Did I miss Scotland and Wales getting representation in the U.N.? I should really watch more news. That's because the UK is the represented party The UK isn't a party This is a very strange thread. I use party as a way to say that it's the represented whole. You know, how in court they sometimes call someone the represented party" But you are wrong in how you see the makeup of the UK government, as was established earlier in the thread. The fact of the matter is that in the eyes of international law, the UK is a state/country in the international sense. You can call Scotland and Wales whatever you like internally, but they are simply not recognized as separate countries internationally. It's why Scotland had the referendum. You conflate two different things when we say what you said in the OP. You're confusing the issue and it's why Americans don't "undersrand" what you're saying. If you'd like a discussion on international law and the politics of state formation, let me know - its a topic I know fairly well. | |||
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"ruled by england? While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions Nicola Sturgeon may disagree lol Is this the same Nicola Sturgeon who still wants Scottish Independence even thought the income from oil has tanked so spectacularly (by over 90%!!) that even a good vet couldn't revive the Scottish economy? Yes, so? That's not really relevant. The Scottish are still not "ruled by the English".. Lol they haven't grasped that there is no English government, it's the UK government that's based in London.... in fact England is the only country in the union that DOESN'T have any devolved power Which "they" haven't grasped this?. The person wrote... While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions " You have to look at it from our perspective. Of course we're gonna call it the English government. It's based in England, makes up the rules for England and so forth. It is also the UK government that makes up the main laws that effect Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland. That is what I meant by calling it the English government. | |||
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"Oh! Did I miss Scotland and Wales getting representation in the U.N.? I should really watch more news. That's because the UK is the represented party The UK isn't a party This is a very strange thread. I use party as a way to say that it's the represented whole. You know, how in court they sometimes call someone the represented party But you are wrong in how you see the makeup of the UK government, as was established earlier in the thread. The fact of the matter is that in the eyes of international law, the UK is a state/country in the international sense. You can call Scotland and Wales whatever you like internally, but they are simply not recognized as separate countries internationally. It's why Scotland had the referendum. You conflate two different things when we say what you said in the OP. You're confusing the issue and it's why Americans don't "undersrand" what you're saying. If you'd like a discussion on international law and the politics of state formation, let me know - its a topic I know fairly well." I guess I just didn't get what I mean across. I know I'm not sometimes the best at that. What I meant when I said seperate countries is that Scotland and Wales are countries in their own sense, but we are bonded together in the United Kingdoms. So the UK is made up of four seperate countries. That is what I meant by saying seperate and most Americans seemed to grasp it fairly easily when I explain it to them like that | |||
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"Oh! Did I miss Scotland and Wales getting representation in the U.N.? I should really watch more news. That's because the UK is the represented party The UK isn't a party This is a very strange thread. I use party as a way to say that it's the represented whole. You know, how in court they sometimes call someone the represented party" It's not the same situation as being in a court though. The UN is an entity or organisation to which we belong. The UK is a member of the UN, not a party (or anything else) represented by the UN. Scotland and Wales, individually, are not members of the UN. I really think you need a better understanding of these things before you try to explain them to anyone else, particularly anyone from another country. No wonder they're confused. | |||
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"ruled by england? While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions Nicola Sturgeon may disagree lol Is this the same Nicola Sturgeon who still wants Scottish Independence even thought the income from oil has tanked so spectacularly (by over 90%!!) that even a good vet couldn't revive the Scottish economy? Yes, so? That's not really relevant. The Scottish are still not "ruled by the English".. Lol they haven't grasped that there is no English government, it's the UK government that's based in London.... in fact England is the only country in the union that DOESN'T have any devolved power Which "they" haven't grasped this?. The person wrote... While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions You have to look at it from our perspective. Of course we're gonna call it the English government. It's based in England, makes up the rules for England and so forth. It is also the UK government that makes up the main laws that effect Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland. That is what I meant by calling it the English government. " It isn't an English government though, it really isn't, in any sense. You could call me a kangaroo - it doesn't make it correct. | |||
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"Oh! Did I miss Scotland and Wales getting representation in the U.N.? I should really watch more news. That's because the UK is the represented party The UK isn't a party This is a very strange thread. I use party as a way to say that it's the represented whole. You know, how in court they sometimes call someone the represented party But you are wrong in how you see the makeup of the UK government, as was established earlier in the thread. The fact of the matter is that in the eyes of international law, the UK is a state/country in the international sense. You can call Scotland and Wales whatever you like internally, but they are simply not recognized as separate countries internationally. It's why Scotland had the referendum. You conflate two different things when we say what you said in the OP. You're confusing the issue and it's why Americans don't "undersrand" what you're saying. If you'd like a discussion on international law and the politics of state formation, let me know - its a topic I know fairly well. I guess I just didn't get what I mean across. I know I'm not sometimes the best at that. What I meant when I said seperate countries is that Scotland and Wales are countries in their own sense, but we are bonded together in the United Kingdoms. So the UK is made up of four seperate countries. That is what I meant by saying seperate and most Americans seemed to grasp it fairly easily when I explain it to them like that" Oh, I thought we were talking about things Americans will never understand?? And of course they grasp it after you explain it like that - it's the same situation America itself was in when we had the articles of confederation. To be honest, it's pretty similar to statehood in the US, regardless of your protests to the contrary. British people have such a limited knowledge of state power and autonomy in the US that it can often be just as difficult to exlain it to them. Maybe I should start a thread about all the things Brits will never understand | |||
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"Oh! Did I miss Scotland and Wales getting representation in the U.N.? I should really watch more news. That's because the UK is the represented party The UK isn't a party This is a very strange thread. I use party as a way to say that it's the represented whole. You know, how in court they sometimes call someone the represented party It's not the same situation as being in a court though. The UN is an entity or organisation to which we belong. The UK is a member of the UN, not a party (or anything else) represented by the UN. Scotland and Wales, individually, are not members of the UN. I really think you need a better understanding of these things before you try to explain them to anyone else, particularly anyone from another country. No wonder they're confused." I have said earlier on that I am sometimes not the best at explaining what I mean by some things as it makes complete sense in my head. I know what you are saying, and I know what you mean, but that is because the UK is seen as an entire country by some people. That is what I try to get across to them. The UK is what is represented as a whole, but it's made of four countries | |||
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"ruled by england? While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions Nicola Sturgeon may disagree lol Is this the same Nicola Sturgeon who still wants Scottish Independence even thought the income from oil has tanked so spectacularly (by over 90%!!) that even a good vet couldn't revive the Scottish economy? Yes, so? That's not really relevant. The Scottish are still not "ruled by the English".. Lol they haven't grasped that there is no English government, it's the UK government that's based in London.... in fact England is the only country in the union that DOESN'T have any devolved power Which "they" haven't grasped this?. The person wrote... While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions You have to look at it from our perspective. Of course we're gonna call it the English government. It's based in England, makes up the rules for England and so forth. It is also the UK government that makes up the main laws that effect Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland. That is what I meant by calling it the English government. It isn't an English government though, it really isn't, in any sense. You could call me a kangaroo - it doesn't make it correct. " Going in circles. | |||
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"Marmite " Yes they don't get it. Made my American friend have some when he was here last weekend. The face he pulled has priceless. So I made him take some home for this family. | |||
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"ruled by england? While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions Nicola Sturgeon may disagree lol Is this the same Nicola Sturgeon who still wants Scottish Independence even thought the income from oil has tanked so spectacularly (by over 90%!!) that even a good vet couldn't revive the Scottish economy? Yes, so? That's not really relevant. The Scottish are still not "ruled by the English".. Lol they haven't grasped that there is no English government, it's the UK government that's based in London.... in fact England is the only country in the union that DOESN'T have any devolved power Which "they" haven't grasped this?. The person wrote... While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions You have to look at it from our perspective. Of course we're gonna call it the English government. It's based in England, makes up the rules for England and so forth. It is also the UK government that makes up the main laws that effect Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland. That is what I meant by calling it the English government. " "We" don't call it the English government. Many of us know there is no such thing. Who is "our" in "our perspective"? You do know that the UK Parliament consists of all UK MPs, not just the English ones, even though it's located in England? And that all of them get to vote on English matters? There is no Parliament that consists solely of English MPs. The Scottish have one. The Welsh have one. The N. Irish have one. The English don't! | |||
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"That we don't all wear bowler hats eat roast beef every day play polo with a posh twat accent and all know the queen personally? As for the milk / tea debate... Tea first bag out milk in .. ?Substitue tea bag for your herbal or double skinny extra shot mocha chocolata yaya and be my lady marmalade any day " . Bollocks tea, milk, sugar... Stir till you get desired color .. Remove bag | |||
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"Oh! Did I miss Scotland and Wales getting representation in the U.N.? I should really watch more news. That's because the UK is the represented party The UK isn't a party This is a very strange thread. I use party as a way to say that it's the represented whole. You know, how in court they sometimes call someone the represented party It's not the same situation as being in a court though. The UN is an entity or organisation to which we belong. The UK is a member of the UN, not a party (or anything else) represented by the UN. Scotland and Wales, individually, are not members of the UN. I really think you need a better understanding of these things before you try to explain them to anyone else, particularly anyone from another country. No wonder they're confused. I have said earlier on that I am sometimes not the best at explaining what I mean by some things as it makes complete sense in my head. I know what you are saying, and I know what you mean, but that is because the UK is seen as an entire country by some people. That is what I try to get across to them. The UK is what is represented as a whole, but it's made of four countries" I've already explained that you are conflating the two different meanings of the term country. It would be like me conflating the one meaning of the term "state" internationally and then saying that the US is made up of 50 states. In that sentence there are two differnt meanings to the term state. That's why you are confusing people. | |||
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"Oh! Did I miss Scotland and Wales getting representation in the U.N.? I should really watch more news. That's because the UK is the represented party The UK isn't a party This is a very strange thread. I use party as a way to say that it's the represented whole. You know, how in court they sometimes call someone the represented party But you are wrong in how you see the makeup of the UK government, as was established earlier in the thread. The fact of the matter is that in the eyes of international law, the UK is a state/country in the international sense. You can call Scotland and Wales whatever you like internally, but they are simply not recognized as separate countries internationally. It's why Scotland had the referendum. You conflate two different things when we say what you said in the OP. You're confusing the issue and it's why Americans don't "undersrand" what you're saying. If you'd like a discussion on international law and the politics of state formation, let me know - its a topic I know fairly well. I guess I just didn't get what I mean across. I know I'm not sometimes the best at that. What I meant when I said seperate countries is that Scotland and Wales are countries in their own sense, but we are bonded together in the United Kingdoms. So the UK is made up of four seperate countries. That is what I meant by saying seperate and most Americans seemed to grasp it fairly easily when I explain it to them like that Oh, I thought we were talking about things Americans will never understand?? And of course they grasp it after you explain it like that - it's the same situation America itself was in when we had the articles of confederation. To be honest, it's pretty similar to statehood in the US, regardless of your protests to the contrary. British people have such a limited knowledge of state power and autonomy in the US that it can often be just as difficult to exlain it to them. Maybe I should start a thread about all the things Brits will never understand " Do it . I always have trouble when I ask an American where they are from and they just say something like "TX" (I know that's Texas, but it's an example.) But sometimes when even after I explain it to them like that, a lot of them still insist that I am English, not Welsh | |||
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"ruled by england? While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions Nicola Sturgeon may disagree lol Is this the same Nicola Sturgeon who still wants Scottish Independence even thought the income from oil has tanked so spectacularly (by over 90%!!) that even a good vet couldn't revive the Scottish economy? Yes, so? That's not really relevant. The Scottish are still not "ruled by the English".. Lol they haven't grasped that there is no English government, it's the UK government that's based in London.... in fact England is the only country in the union that DOESN'T have any devolved power Which "they" haven't grasped this?. The person wrote... While we have our own Governments, the English government makes the bigger desicions You have to look at it from our perspective. Of course we're gonna call it the English government. It's based in England, makes up the rules for England and so forth. It is also the UK government that makes up the main laws that effect Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland. That is what I meant by calling it the English government. It isn't an English government though, it really isn't, in any sense. You could call me a kangaroo - it doesn't make it correct. " You're a kangaroo. | |||
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"Oh! Did I miss Scotland and Wales getting representation in the U.N.? I should really watch more news. That's because the UK is the represented party The UK isn't a party This is a very strange thread. I use party as a way to say that it's the represented whole. You know, how in court they sometimes call someone the represented party But you are wrong in how you see the makeup of the UK government, as was established earlier in the thread. The fact of the matter is that in the eyes of international law, the UK is a state/country in the international sense. You can call Scotland and Wales whatever you like internally, but they are simply not recognized as separate countries internationally. It's why Scotland had the referendum. You conflate two different things when we say what you said in the OP. You're confusing the issue and it's why Americans don't "undersrand" what you're saying. If you'd like a discussion on international law and the politics of state formation, let me know - its a topic I know fairly well. I guess I just didn't get what I mean across. I know I'm not sometimes the best at that. What I meant when I said seperate countries is that Scotland and Wales are countries in their own sense, but we are bonded together in the United Kingdoms. So the UK is made up of four seperate countries. That is what I meant by saying seperate and most Americans seemed to grasp it fairly easily when I explain it to them like that Oh, I thought we were talking about things Americans will never understand?? And of course they grasp it after you explain it like that - it's the same situation America itself was in when we had the articles of confederation. To be honest, it's pretty similar to statehood in the US, regardless of your protests to the contrary. British people have such a limited knowledge of state power and autonomy in the US that it can often be just as difficult to exlain it to them. Maybe I should start a thread about all the things Brits will never understand " Please do Courtney; can I start with Doggy Bags? | |||
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"Oh! Did I miss Scotland and Wales getting representation in the U.N.? I should really watch more news. That's because the UK is the represented party The UK isn't a party This is a very strange thread. I use party as a way to say that it's the represented whole. You know, how in court they sometimes call someone the represented party But you are wrong in how you see the makeup of the UK government, as was established earlier in the thread. The fact of the matter is that in the eyes of international law, the UK is a state/country in the international sense. You can call Scotland and Wales whatever you like internally, but they are simply not recognized as separate countries internationally. It's why Scotland had the referendum. You conflate two different things when we say what you said in the OP. You're confusing the issue and it's why Americans don't "undersrand" what you're saying. If you'd like a discussion on international law and the politics of state formation, let me know - its a topic I know fairly well. I guess I just didn't get what I mean across. I know I'm not sometimes the best at that. What I meant when I said seperate countries is that Scotland and Wales are countries in their own sense, but we are bonded together in the United Kingdoms. So the UK is made up of four seperate countries. That is what I meant by saying seperate and most Americans seemed to grasp it fairly easily when I explain it to them like that Oh, I thought we were talking about things Americans will never understand?? And of course they grasp it after you explain it like that - it's the same situation America itself was in when we had the articles of confederation. To be honest, it's pretty similar to statehood in the US, regardless of your protests to the contrary. British people have such a limited knowledge of state power and autonomy in the US that it can often be just as difficult to exlain it to them. Maybe I should start a thread about all the things Brits will never understand " Some Brits | |||
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"Oh! Did I miss Scotland and Wales getting representation in the U.N.? I should really watch more news. That's because the UK is the represented party The UK isn't a party This is a very strange thread. I use party as a way to say that it's the represented whole. You know, how in court they sometimes call someone the represented party But you are wrong in how you see the makeup of the UK government, as was established earlier in the thread. The fact of the matter is that in the eyes of international law, the UK is a state/country in the international sense. You can call Scotland and Wales whatever you like internally, but they are simply not recognized as separate countries internationally. It's why Scotland had the referendum. You conflate two different things when we say what you said in the OP. You're confusing the issue and it's why Americans don't "undersrand" what you're saying. If you'd like a discussion on international law and the politics of state formation, let me know - its a topic I know fairly well. I guess I just didn't get what I mean across. I know I'm not sometimes the best at that. What I meant when I said seperate countries is that Scotland and Wales are countries in their own sense, but we are bonded together in the United Kingdoms. So the UK is made up of four seperate countries. That is what I meant by saying seperate and most Americans seemed to grasp it fairly easily when I explain it to them like that Oh, I thought we were talking about things Americans will never understand?? And of course they grasp it after you explain it like that - it's the same situation America itself was in when we had the articles of confederation. To be honest, it's pretty similar to statehood in the US, regardless of your protests to the contrary. British people have such a limited knowledge of state power and autonomy in the US that it can often be just as difficult to exlain it to them. Maybe I should start a thread about all the things Brits will never understand Some Brits" | |||
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"Oh! Did I miss Scotland and Wales getting representation in the U.N.? I should really watch more news. That's because the UK is the represented party The UK isn't a party This is a very strange thread. I use party as a way to say that it's the represented whole. You know, how in court they sometimes call someone the represented party It's not the same situation as being in a court though. The UN is an entity or organisation to which we belong. The UK is a member of the UN, not a party (or anything else) represented by the UN. Scotland and Wales, individually, are not members of the UN. I really think you need a better understanding of these things before you try to explain them to anyone else, particularly anyone from another country. No wonder they're confused. I have said earlier on that I am sometimes not the best at explaining what I mean by some things as it makes complete sense in my head. I know what you are saying, and I know what you mean, but that is because the UK is seen as an entire country by some people. That is what I try to get across to them. The UK is what is represented as a whole, but it's made of four countries" The UK *is* an entire country, or Nation State. It just happens to be made up of 4 individual countries. To the rest of the world, including the US, it is the UK that has international recognition. The individual countries are largely irrelevant. Just admit a lot of what you've said is wrong and your understanding of UK structure and politics isn't as good as you thought. Speaking about matters like an English Government is plain wrong and is, of course, going to confuse people. You can bluster about how it makes sense in your head all you like, but on a lot of what you've said, you're simply wrong. Sorry. | |||
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