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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Why do some women go for androgynous looking guys or guys with long girly hair or very feminine looking guys? "
The only feminine guys I see are gay ones. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I don't like women that look like guys. Nor guys that take longer then me to get ready or to feminine.
I like womanly women and manly men.
Any fancy a fuck after 5pm?
MrsSB  "
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"I don't like women that look like guys. Nor guys that take longer then me to get ready or to feminine.
I like womanly women and manly men.
Any fancy a fuck after 5pm?
MrsSB
Make it after 8pm "
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By *eliWoman
over a year ago
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts? "
Because of penis envy obviously...
Or maybe gender is a fluid societal construct and how someone chooses to present themselves is a personal choice? And if 'male' apparel and an outward appearance of being 'butch' is what they wish to do, there is the choice and freedom to do so? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Isn't it just personal preference?
Some guys like bbw, some don't. Some women seek bbc, others say no black or Asian on profile..... It's just personal choice.
I'm sure lesbians can make personal choices too...just like the rest of us! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts?
Because of penis envy obviously...
Or maybe gender is a fluid societal construct and how someone chooses to present themselves is a personal choice? And if 'male' apparel and an outward appearance of being 'butch' is what they wish to do, there is the choice and freedom to do so? "
I understand it's personal choice and freedom to do so.
I'd still like to know why they go for butch looking ones. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Isn't it just personal preference?
Some guys like bbw, some don't. Some women seek bbc, others say no black or Asian on profile..... It's just personal choice.
I'm sure lesbians can make personal choices too...just like the rest of us!"
Have I said they can't! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts? "
I fancy lipstick lesbians and boi/butch types and feminine men. I can't tell you why..I just do. I guess I just like human beings in any combination.. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts?
I fancy lipstick lesbians and boi/butch types and feminine men. I can't tell you why..I just do. I guess I just like human beings in any combination.."
If i was a lesbian I'd be a lipstick lesbian and I'd want a lipstick lesbian partner. Why? If I preferred women to men, why would I want a women that looks like a man. That's my opinion of course. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I've never understood this either.. if you are a lesbian its because you like women, so why go for ones who look like men   "
Hooray! My thoughts too, I wonder if you will get an ear bashing!? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I've never understood this either.. if you are a lesbian its because you like women, so why go for ones who look like men "
Iv since read that that they are all woman, female touch etc, but some like to be the provider. Why do you have to look butch or like a man to be the provider in the relationship? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I've been in relationships with women for nearly 20 years, and my past partners have been a mixture, I'd say some were boyish rather than butch..
It's completely personal taste, you cant help who you feel attracted to. A lot of people go for men with huge muscles, and in their opinion that looks manly, whereas personally I can't stand it and am not attracted by it in the slightest. Along side the fact that I don't wanna be stood up because it's abs and pecs day at the gym! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is it a bit like why do vegetarians eat meat shaped quorn products? "
Haha, I don't eat or like meat, the last thing I want to eat is something pretending to be meat! |
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Maybe they're not completely lesbian and there's just a little tiny bit of their makeup that likes men. I clearly haven't got a clue,but it's a good point actually. My daughter is a lesbian and I asked her what type of girl she fancied,she replied I'm only 15 I don't know yet mum which is fair enough. I'm kinda hoping it's the more girlie type. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts? "
I think it's because they're comfortable.
you wear what you feel good in or perhaps it's a statement?
doesn't mean they're transgender/wanna be men I think.
often opposites attract, (not always)
as long as one is happy eh?
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By (user no longer on site)
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There are probably as many reasons as there are individuals.
Women could be dressing that way because they identify more with the masculine aspects of their personality. It's not as simple as "this is what a man should look like" and "this is what a women should look like". Gender is more fluid and less binary than that.
Others may want to deter the attentions of men.
There's also confirmation bias in this. You are noticing the more "butch" looking lesbians more. I have lesbian colleagues who don't dress that way, and people just automatically assume they're straight. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"There are probably as many reasons as there are individuals.
Women could be dressing that way because they identify more with the masculine aspects of their personality. It's not as simple as "this is what a man should look like" and "this is what a women should look like". Gender is more fluid and less binary than that.
Others may want to deter the attentions of men.
There's also confirmation bias in this. You are noticing the more "butch" looking lesbians more. I have lesbian colleagues who don't dress that way, and people just automatically assume they're straight. "
I hadn't t thought about them wanting to deter the attention of men. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I've been in relationships with women for nearly 20 years, and my past partners have been a mixture, I'd say some were boyish rather than butch..
It's completely personal taste, you cant help who you feel attracted to. A lot of people go for men with huge muscles, and in their opinion that looks manly, whereas personally I can't stand it and am not attracted by it in the slightest. Along side the fact that I don't wanna be stood up because it's abs and pecs day at the gym!"
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Maybe they're not completely lesbian and there's just a little tiny bit of their makeup that likes men. I clearly haven't got a clue,but it's a good point actually. My daughter is a lesbian and I asked her what type of girl she fancied,she replied I'm only 15 I don't know yet mum which is fair enough. I'm kinda hoping it's the more girlie type."
Awww at what age did she know she was a lesbian? Of course you don't have to answer. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts? "
They aren't women who "look like men" - they are just women who look like themselves...
I'm more lesbian than bi, and only have life relationships with women - who are their own individuals.
I just can't see anything attractive at all in feminised women who dress up in make-up, lingerie and heels etc..
We all have our own likes and dislikes - simple as that!
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've never understood this either.. if you are a lesbian its because you like women, so why go for ones who look like men
Hooray! My thoughts too, I wonder if you will get an ear bashing!? "
More then likely |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts? "
Because they find them attractive?
What does it matter what other people's tastes are? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is it a bit like why do vegetarians eat meat shaped quorn products? "
I think having a relationship with someone is a bit different to what you are having for tea |
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By (user no longer on site)
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It's because they aren't gay at all. Lesbians are cool so they are just pretending to be one. They choose a woman that looks like a man because they don't fancy women.
Much like "bi curious" women on here that lie back with their eyes closed so a woman will lick her as her husband watches.
Women that wear trousers secretly want to be men. They have cock envy. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts?
Because they find them attractive?
What does it matter what other people's tastes are?"
It doesn't matter I'm just intrigued. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I'm very femme but all my girlfriends (apart from current one) have been v butch. It's just what I find attractive and no they are not men. Far from it! You may want to Google the butch/femme dynamic for more info.
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By (user no longer on site)
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I dress butch one day and femme another..I have short hair..so what am I? I dress whatever I feel comfy in..sometimes that's slacks and hoodie and sometimes that's a dress with cleavage on show and full makeup.
I used to think why would a woman who fancies women like one who looked like a man..but my body now tells me I'm attracted to that type too and I can't explain it. After all..she's a woman underneath the clothes isn't she?? |
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"Maybe they're not completely lesbian and there's just a little tiny bit of their makeup that likes men. I clearly haven't got a clue,but it's a good point actually. My daughter is a lesbian and I asked her what type of girl she fancied,she replied I'm only 15 I don't know yet mum which is fair enough. I'm kinda hoping it's the more girlie type.
Awww at what age did she know she was a lesbian? Of course you don't have to answer."
About 10 months ago plastered it all over Facebook daft thing,which wasn't the wisest move. You know what kids are like,they will find anything to pick on you for. My mum thinks she's going through a 'stage' |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Men that fancy women with short hair and small tits are gay but can't admit it. "
I had a thing with a "woman" with really small boobs and a massive clit. It was great but her balls slapped my chin when I sucked her clit. #neverconfused |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why do some women go for androgynous looking guys or guys with long girly hair or very feminine looking guys?
because we need love too.  "
Get in my bed honey.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Men that fancy women with short hair and small tits are gay but can't admit it. "
I quite fancy women with small tits and short hair what does that make me 
I'm too old to be confused |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Men that fancy women with short hair and small tits are gay but can't admit it.
I quite fancy women with small tits and short hair what does that make me
I'm too old to be confused "
You're not old. You are however a gay man. Embrace it. Your house will have amazing co-ordinating cushions. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Maybe they're not completely lesbian and there's just a little tiny bit of their makeup that likes men. I clearly haven't got a clue,but it's a good point actually. My daughter is a lesbian and I asked her what type of girl she fancied,she replied I'm only 15 I don't know yet mum which is fair enough. I'm kinda hoping it's the more girlie type.
Awww at what age did she know she was a lesbian? Of course you don't have to answer.
About 10 months ago plastered it all over Facebook daft thing,which wasn't the wisest move. You know what kids are like,they will find anything to pick on you for. My mum thinks she's going through a 'stage' "
Yes, kids can be very cruel. Hopefully she gives as good as she gets 
It could be a stage, a lot of gay/lesbian not so much lesbian have said they knew from an early age. |
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I know a woman who is quite attractive and married to a lesbian, not very attractive who looks like a man, my guess is she has met some awful men and she likes her new partner because she has a nice personality. I like some men who look a bit like women because i like attractive women and maybe because i grew up in the 70s when the men were more flamboyant. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why do some women go for androgynous looking guys or guys with long girly hair or very feminine looking guys?
because we need love too.
Get in my bed honey.. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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It confuses me, a member of my family is lesbian but it's now seeing a pre op transgender female to male and refers to him as he.... So that one totally confuses me, I'm like so your bi as he's now going to be a he and is having hormones to become a he, nope still a lesbian. 
For myself I like girly girls, long hair, pretty. But then I like my men manly too |
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You do seem to see it too often for it to be a mere coincidence, a more butch looking lesbian with a girly, classically feminine looking one. I've never understood why that is or if there's a reason for it but you can't deny it happens. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Well I guess that sexuality is a sliding scale and not binary.
This is evidenced by the number of bisexuals there are on fab.
lots of people like the opposite of what they are, even if they are sexually attracted to the same sex. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've never understood this either.. if you are a lesbian its because you like women, so why go for ones who look like men
Hooray! My thoughts too, I wonder if you will get an ear bashing!? "
It's hard work on this thread isn't it!
A reasonable question following by all sorts of nonsense that tries to force words in the OPs mouth.
The term "personal preference" doesn't actually mean anything and people don't seem to understand that a question that starts with "why" is seeking an explanation, not a statement. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You do seem to see it too often for it to be a mere coincidence, a more butch looking lesbian with a girly, classically feminine looking one. I've never understood why that is or if there's a reason for it but you can't deny it happens."
How do you know when 2 women are a couple?
One butch one fem = lesbians.
Two fems = just friends?
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"You do seem to see it too often for it to be a mere coincidence, a more butch looking lesbian with a girly, classically feminine looking one. I've never understood why that is or if there's a reason for it but you can't deny it happens.
How do you know when 2 women are a couple?
One butch one fem = lesbians.
Two fems = just friends?
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That's what I meant by confirmation bias. You probably see lesbian couples all the time who you don't register as lesbians because they don't look a certain way. |
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"You do seem to see it too often for it to be a mere coincidence, a more butch looking lesbian with a girly, classically feminine looking one. I've never understood why that is or if there's a reason for it but you can't deny it happens.
How do you know when 2 women are a couple?
One butch one fem = lesbians.
Two fems = just friends?
That's what I meant by confirmation bias. You probably see lesbian couples all the time who you don't register as lesbians because they don't look a certain way."
Sorry missed you already said it. |
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"It's because they aren't gay at all. Lesbians are cool so they are just pretending to be one. They choose a woman that looks like a man because they don't fancy women.
Much like "bi curious" women on here that lie back with their eyes closed so a woman will lick her as her husband watches.
Women that wear trousers secretly want to be men. They have cock envy. "
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"You do seem to see it too often for it to be a mere coincidence, a more butch looking lesbian with a girly, classically feminine looking one. I've never understood why that is or if there's a reason for it but you can't deny it happens.
How do you know when 2 women are a couple?
One butch one fem = lesbians.
Two fems = just friends?
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How do I know? Because I happen to know they are a lesbian couple, ie I happen to know them personally or I see them on tv saying they are a couple. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You do seem to see it too often for it to be a mere coincidence, a more butch looking lesbian with a girly, classically feminine looking one. I've never understood why that is or if there's a reason for it but you can't deny it happens.
How do you know when 2 women are a couple?
One butch one fem = lesbians.
Two fems = just friends?
That's what I meant by confirmation bias. You probably see lesbian couples all the time who you don't register as lesbians because they don't look a certain way."
Well hang around gay bars a bit and that might validate the original question |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't like women that look like guys. Nor guys that take longer then me to get ready or to feminine.
I like womanly women and manly men.
Any fancy a fuck after 5pm?
MrsSB
Make it after 8pm
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"I can't decide whether this thread is more or less ignorant that the last bi thread..."
I remember...
The conclusion I came to was that the problem isn't [insert sexuality here] but heterosexuals, grafting their own ideas of what [insert sexual preference here] is.
Yes. It all comes back to me now.
Lesbians rock.
Just stay away from the lesbian tent at pride - that's usually where the fights start |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I can't decide whether this thread is more or less ignorant that the last bi thread...
I remember...
The conclusion I came to was that the problem isn't [insert sexuality here] but heterosexuals, grafting their own ideas of what [insert sexual preference here] is.
Yes. It all comes back to me now.
Lesbians rock.
Just stay away from the lesbian tent at pride - that's usually where the fights start "
What's the problem with people asking questions as they try and understand a minority group better? |
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"I can't decide whether this thread is more or less ignorant that the last bi thread...
I remember...
The conclusion I came to was that the problem isn't [insert sexuality here] but heterosexuals, grafting their own ideas of what [insert sexual preference here] is.
Yes. It all comes back to me now.
Lesbians rock.
Just stay away from the lesbian tent at pride - that's usually where the fights start
What's the problem with people asking questions as they try and understand a minority group better? "
This thread is largely a heterosexual free-for-all.
It would be better if only lesbians or bisexual women answered and the heterosexual people listened.
Just a thought. |
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"I can't decide whether this thread is more or less ignorant that the last bi thread...
I remember...
The conclusion I came to was that the problem isn't [insert sexuality here] but heterosexuals, grafting their own ideas of what [insert sexual preference here] is.
Yes. It all comes back to me now.
Lesbians rock.
Just stay away from the lesbian tent at pride - that's usually where the fights start
What's the problem with people asking questions as they try and understand a minority group better?
This thread is largely a heterosexual free-for-all.
It would be better if only lesbians or bisexual women answered and the heterosexual people listened.
Just a thought."
You could have various fora:
* ask a lesbian
* ask a gay man
* ask a straight woman
* ...
You get the idea. And then people who have checked that particular box can reply.
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"I can't decide whether this thread is more or less ignorant that the last bi thread...
I remember...
The conclusion I came to was that the problem isn't [insert sexuality here] but heterosexuals, grafting their own ideas of what [insert sexual preference here] is.
Yes. It all comes back to me now.
Lesbians rock.
Just stay away from the lesbian tent at pride - that's usually where the fights start
What's the problem with people asking questions as they try and understand a minority group better?
This thread is largely a heterosexual free-for-all.
It would be better if only lesbians or bisexual women answered and the heterosexual people listened.
Just a thought."
There's no prerequisite to be part of a minority group in order to understand them. Just like you and criminals. Facts and logic are not the exclusive property of certain social groups. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts? "
They are usually short & fat or skinny and butt ugly...i'd like to say I've seen some stormers but honestly can't...the feminine ones though...fuck me I've seen loads |
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"I can't decide whether this thread is more or less ignorant that the last bi thread..."
I didn't see the other one.
I'm not ignorant about lesbians/gays or bisexuals. |
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"I can't decide whether this thread is more or less ignorant that the last bi thread...
I remember...
The conclusion I came to was that the problem isn't [insert sexuality here] but heterosexuals, grafting their own ideas of what [insert sexual preference here] is.
Yes. It all comes back to me now.
Lesbians rock.
Just stay away from the lesbian tent at pride - that's usually where the fights start
What's the problem with people asking questions as they try and understand a minority group better?
This thread is largely a heterosexual free-for-all.
It would be better if only lesbians or bisexual women answered and the heterosexual people listened.
Just a thought.
There's no prerequisite to be part of a minority group in order to understand them. Just like you and criminals. Facts and logic are not the exclusive property of certain social groups."
No but opinions are like arseholes - everyone's got one |
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"I can't decide whether this thread is more or less ignorant that the last bi thread...
I didn't see the other one.
I'm not ignorant about lesbians/gays or bisexuals."
There's some very decent replies in here |
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"I can't decide whether this thread is more or less ignorant that the last bi thread...
I didn't see the other one.
I'm not ignorant about lesbians/gays or bisexuals.
There's some very decent replies in here"
Really? Variations of "it's a preference" do not answer the question that was asked. |
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"I can't decide whether this thread is more or less ignorant that the last bi thread...
I didn't see the other one.
I'm not ignorant about lesbians/gays or bisexuals.
There's some very decent replies in here
Really? Variations of "it's a preference" do not answer the question that was asked."
I saw one reply that I thought summed it up nicely.
But as I said, maybe you could set up some new fora... |
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"I can't decide whether this thread is more or less ignorant that the last bi thread...
I didn't see the other one.
I'm not ignorant about lesbians/gays or bisexuals.
There's some very decent replies in here
Really? Variations of "it's a preference" do not answer the question that was asked.
I saw one reply that I thought summed it up nicely.
But as I said, maybe you could set up some new fora... "
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"I can't decide whether this thread is more or less ignorant that the last bi thread...
I didn't see the other one.
I'm not ignorant about lesbians/gays or bisexuals.
There's some very decent replies in here
Really? Variations of "it's a preference" do not answer the question that was asked.
I saw one reply that I thought summed it up nicely.
But as I said, maybe you could set up some new fora...
Could you give it a nice thumb up to separate it from the noise? "
Let me paint you a picture...
If I were, for instance, wishing to learn to drive (a reasonably complex but learnable set of actions), would I:
a) ask a forum?
b) go ask a professional or even someone I trusted who, imo, drives well?
Opinions... everyone's got one.
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I guess the simple answer is, people are just attracted to whatever they are attracted to. That's how attraction works. It is what it is. Whatever your sexuality or sexual leanings, that's how it works.
There's no denying you do see this in lesbian couplings though, and often enough for you to notice. I think all the OP was originally asking was is there a particular reason for this. |
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"Maybe they're not completely lesbian and there's just a little tiny bit of their makeup that likes men. I clearly haven't got a clue,but it's a good point actually. My daughter is a lesbian and I asked her what type of girl she fancied,she replied I'm only 15 I don't know yet mum which is fair enough. I'm kinda hoping it's the more girlie type.
Awww at what age did she know she was a lesbian? Of course you don't have to answer.
About 10 months ago plastered it all over Facebook daft thing,which wasn't the wisest move. You know what kids are like,they will find anything to pick on you for. My mum thinks she's going through a 'stage' "
When a good friend came out to her Nan she was a little shocked when her Nan replied.
"It's ok sweetheart you'll grow out of it, I did " |
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i think some woman are attracted to masculinity but not men
Same as some guys are attracted to femininity but not women
There for they seek butch women/femanine men |
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"If anyone has watched The L Word that portays most lesbians as ultra feminine, apart from Shane and Moira. Hubba hubba. Those girlies rock!!"
Shanes mine.. Hands off! |
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"If anyone has watched The L Word that portays most lesbians as ultra feminine, apart from Shane and Moira. Hubba hubba. Those girlies rock!!
Shanes mine.. Hands off! "
Now now - let's share lol x |
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"If anyone has watched The L Word that portays most lesbians as ultra feminine, apart from Shane and Moira. Hubba hubba. Those girlies rock!!
Shanes mine.. Hands off!
Now now - let's share lol x "
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"i think some woman are attracted to masculinity but not men
Same as some guys are attracted to femininity but not women
There for they seek butch women/femanine men "
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"i think some woman are attracted to masculinity but not men
Same as some guys are attracted to femininity but not women
There for they seek butch women/femanine men
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Yes.
Some are... but some aren't...
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts? "
What definition of lesbian are you working on?
If both people are women that as near as damn to lesbianism that I can think of. |
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"I can't decide whether this thread is more or less ignorant that the last bi thread...
I didn't see the other one.
I'm not ignorant about lesbians/gays or bisexuals.
There's some very decent replies in here
Really? Variations of "it's a preference" do not answer the question that was asked."
How can it be answered any other way? Whay attracted you to your partner over his mate? Why did you choose him and not the other? |
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"Is it a bit like why do vegetarians eat meat shaped quorn products?
I think having a relationship with someone is a bit different to what you are having for tea"
Judging by some of the relationships I have seen I don't think that is often the case. |
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"I can't decide whether this thread is more or less ignorant that the last bi thread...
I didn't see the other one.
I'm not ignorant about lesbians/gays or bisexuals.
There's some very decent replies in here
Really? Variations of "it's a preference" do not answer the question that was asked.
How can it be answered any other way? Whay attracted you to your partner over his mate? Why did you choose him and not the other? "
That's not even an answer!! It's just circular logic!!
The question is "why do some go for lesbians that look like men?"
If "it's their preference" was the answer then the question is obviously intended to mean "why do some have a preference for lesbian that look like men?". 'Because they do' does not answer a 'why' question.
The sensible answer appears to be "i think some woman are attracted to masculinity but not men
Same as some guys are attracted to femininity but not women"
I have a friend who is fond of rug munching and she's beautiful. Her partner is not. When I asked her about it, she told me that her ideal partner was "a guy with tits and a pussy". |
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"I have a friend who is fond of rug munching and she's beautiful. Her partner is not. When I asked her about it, she told me that her ideal partner was "a guy with tits and a pussy"."
...is her particular preference. You can't generalise from the anecdotal. |
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"I have a friend who is fond of rug munching and she's beautiful. Her partner is not. When I asked her about it, she told me that her ideal partner was "a guy with tits and a pussy".
...is her particular preference. You can't generalise from the anecdotal. "
I wasn't try to, I already quoted the best answer but you decided to snip it from your quote.
Still looking forward to you giving a thumbs up to the decent reply... |
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"I have a friend who is fond of rug munching and she's beautiful. Her partner is not. When I asked her about it, she told me that her ideal partner was "a guy with tits and a pussy".
...is her particular preference. You can't generalise from the anecdotal.
I wasn't try to, I already quoted the best answer but you decided to snip it from your quote.
Still looking forward to you giving a thumbs up to the decent reply... "
And I've already said, the premise is facile lol |
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"I have a friend who is fond of rug munching and she's beautiful. Her partner is not. When I asked her about it, she told me that her ideal partner was "a guy with tits and a pussy".
...is her particular preference. You can't generalise from the anecdotal.
I wasn't try to, I already quoted the best answer but you decided to snip it from your quote.
Still looking forward to you giving a thumbs up to the decent reply...
And I've already said, the premise is facile lol"
It is if you live in a world with no facts, no logic, no science and no way to prove one hypothesis over another. Some people take comfort in such an idea. |
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"I can't decide whether this thread is more or less ignorant that the last bi thread...
I didn't see the other one.
I'm not ignorant about lesbians/gays or bisexuals.
There's some very decent replies in here
Really? Variations of "it's a preference" do not answer the question that was asked.
How can it be answered any other way? Whay attracted you to your partner over his mate? Why did you choose him and not the other?
That's not even an answer!! It's just circular logic!!
The question is "why do some go for lesbians that look like men?"
If "it's their preference" was the answer then the question is obviously intended to mean "why do some have a preference for lesbian that look like men?". 'Because they do' does not answer a 'why' question.
The sensible answer appears to be "i think some woman are attracted to masculinity but not men
Same as some guys are attracted to femininity but not women"
I have a friend who is fond of rug munching and she's beautiful. Her partner is not. When I asked her about it, she told me that her ideal partner was "a guy with tits and a pussy"."
Because does answer a why question. It just doesn't answer it in a way you like and you seem to have great issue with that.
I'll leave you with the wise words of the munchkins (paraphrased slightly just to make my point)
Because because because because becaaauuuussseeee......because of the wonderful things she does.
A-thank you and goodnight |
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"I have a friend who is fond of rug munching and she's beautiful. Her partner is not. When I asked her about it, she told me that her ideal partner was "a guy with tits and a pussy".
...is her particular preference. You can't generalise from the anecdotal.
I wasn't try to, I already quoted the best answer but you decided to snip it from your quote.
Still looking forward to you giving a thumbs up to the decent reply...
And I've already said, the premise is facile lol
It is if you live in a world with no facts, no logic, no science and no way to prove one hypothesis over another. Some people take comfort in such an idea. "
I'm not the one who makes up percentages to support arguments
I'm merely saying that I disagree with the proposition, and that the debate is characterised by straight people telling others how they feel & think.
Seems quite logical to me? |
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"I can't decide whether this thread is more or less ignorant that the last bi thread...
I didn't see the other one.
I'm not ignorant about lesbians/gays or bisexuals.
There's some very decent replies in here
Really? Variations of "it's a preference" do not answer the question that was asked.
How can it be answered any other way? Whay attracted you to your partner over his mate? Why did you choose him and not the other?
That's not even an answer!! It's just circular logic!!
The question is "why do some go for lesbians that look like men?"
If "it's their preference" was the answer then the question is obviously intended to mean "why do some have a preference for lesbian that look like men?". 'Because they do' does not answer a 'why' question.
The sensible answer appears to be "i think some woman are attracted to masculinity but not men
Same as some guys are attracted to femininity but not women"
I have a friend who is fond of rug munching and she's beautiful. Her partner is not. When I asked her about it, she told me that her ideal partner was "a guy with tits and a pussy".
Because does answer a why question. It just doesn't answer it in a way you like and you seem to have great issue with that.
I'll leave you with the wise words of the munchkins (paraphrased slightly just to make my point)
Because because because because becaaauuuussseeee......because of the wonderful things she does.
A-thank you and goodnight "
If we can't even agree on the difference between a statement and an explanation then there really isn't much hope of every agreeing.
As you wish, proceed to state the blindingly obvious / first thing that comes into your head. I'm sure the OP never considered it might just be a preference  |
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"I can't decide whether this thread is more or less ignorant that the last bi thread...
I didn't see the other one.
I'm not ignorant about lesbians/gays or bisexuals.
There's some very decent replies in here
Really? Variations of "it's a preference" do not answer the question that was asked.
How can it be answered any other way? Whay attracted you to your partner over his mate? Why did you choose him and not the other?
That's not even an answer!! It's just circular logic!!
The question is "why do some go for lesbians that look like men?"
If "it's their preference" was the answer then the question is obviously intended to mean "why do some have a preference for lesbian that look like men?". 'Because they do' does not answer a 'why' question.
The sensible answer appears to be "i think some woman are attracted to masculinity but not men
Same as some guys are attracted to femininity but not women"
I have a friend who is fond of rug munching and she's beautiful. Her partner is not. When I asked her about it, she told me that her ideal partner was "a guy with tits and a pussy".
Because does answer a why question. It just doesn't answer it in a way you like and you seem to have great issue with that.
I'll leave you with the wise words of the munchkins (paraphrased slightly just to make my point)
Because because because because becaaauuuussseeee......because of the wonderful things she does.
A-thank you and goodnight
If we can't even agree on the difference between a statement and an explanation then there really isn't much hope of every agreeing.
As you wish, proceed to state the blindingly obvious / first thing that comes into your head. I'm sure the OP never considered it might just be a preference "
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"I have a friend who is fond of rug munching and she's beautiful. Her partner is not. When I asked her about it, she told me that her ideal partner was "a guy with tits and a pussy".
...is her particular preference. You can't generalise from the anecdotal.
I wasn't try to, I already quoted the best answer but you decided to snip it from your quote.
Still looking forward to you giving a thumbs up to the decent reply...
And I've already said, the premise is facile lol
It is if you live in a world with no facts, no logic, no science and no way to prove one hypothesis over another. Some people take comfort in such an idea.
I'm not the one who makes up percentages to support arguments
I'm merely saying that I disagree with the proposition, and that the debate is characterised by straight people telling others how they feel & think.
Seems quite logical to me?"
So if you had diabetes you wouldn't want a doctor treating you unless they also had diabetes? Because only someone with diabetes knows about diabetes right? |
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"I have a friend who is fond of rug munching and she's beautiful. Her partner is not. When I asked her about it, she told me that her ideal partner was "a guy with tits and a pussy".
...is her particular preference. You can't generalise from the anecdotal.
I wasn't try to, I already quoted the best answer but you decided to snip it from your quote.
Still looking forward to you giving a thumbs up to the decent reply...
And I've already said, the premise is facile lol
It is if you live in a world with no facts, no logic, no science and no way to prove one hypothesis over another. Some people take comfort in such an idea.
I'm not the one who makes up percentages to support arguments
I'm merely saying that I disagree with the proposition, and that the debate is characterised by straight people telling others how they feel & think.
Seems quite logical to me?
So if you had diabetes you wouldn't want a doctor treating you unless they also had diabetes? Because only someone with diabetes knows about diabetes right? "
You're comparing apples and oranges, if I can put it more bluntly, it's a straw man argument. |
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"I can't decide whether this thread is more or less ignorant that the last bi thread...
I didn't see the other one.
I'm not ignorant about lesbians/gays or bisexuals.
There's some very decent replies in here
Really? Variations of "it's a preference" do not answer the question that was asked.
How can it be answered any other way? Whay attracted you to your partner over his mate? Why did you choose him and not the other?
That's not even an answer!! It's just circular logic!!
The question is "why do some go for lesbians that look like men?"
If "it's their preference" was the answer then the question is obviously intended to mean "why do some have a preference for lesbian that look like men?". 'Because they do' does not answer a 'why' question.
The sensible answer appears to be "i think some woman are attracted to masculinity but not men
Same as some guys are attracted to femininity but not women"
I have a friend who is fond of rug munching and she's beautiful. Her partner is not. When I asked her about it, she told me that her ideal partner was "a guy with tits and a pussy"."
Maybe next I will request only lesbians and gays to answer!
If I'd asked, why do you go for bearded men? They'd all give me an answer why. |
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I only like men but i like to feminise them myself and turn them into 'women'. The thought of being sexual with someone without a cock doesn't appeal to me at all. Looks can vary, i like a wide variety of looks and for a relationship i'd go for personality more.
I think when women look 'butch' they actually haven't really changed their appearance tbh, maybe they dress more like men and have a mans haircut but if you look they are 100% female in their looks, they just haven't changed their look with make up or 'girly' things to appear feminine.
In fact, i'd say that most women - if they did not remove hair (especially facial) and did not wear make up and have long, styled hair, they would also look unfeminine.
By being butch you are probably more masculine overall and maybe some lesbians just like a masculine female. |
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When i was a teen, (so over 20 years ago), pretty much all lesbians were butch. They just didn't want to identify as female in the sense that you would.
Many women on fab would look butch if they did not feminise themselves. |
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"Why do some women go for androgynous looking guys or guys with long girly hair or very feminine looking guys?
The only feminine guys I see are gay ones."
My son is feminine looking, he is not gay.
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"Why do some women go for androgynous looking guys or guys with long girly hair or very feminine looking guys?
The only feminine guys I see are gay ones.
My son is feminine looking, he is not gay.
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I'm feminine looking and I'm not gay. |
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Years ago i knew a lady who was a lesbian and she was 83 and all her life had hidden what she really was,she told me a true lesbian hates the thought of a penis or vibrator inside them,infact the thought of a man or any sexual toy anywhere near her repulsed her. |
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"Years ago i knew a lady who was a lesbian and she was 83 and all her life had hidden what she really was,she told me a true lesbian hates the thought of a penis or vibrator inside them,infact the thought of a man or any sexual toy anywhere near her repulsed her."
That's a testable hypothesis if someone is willing to stand in an ann summers and do a survey of dildo sales? |
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"I think it is because they secretly want a man, but would take longer to convert.
Patent nonsense, dude
Everyone's got an opinion Joe... "
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Its dominance of the male form.. For all of "His"story men have dominated which has become an unspoken but accepted way of knowing that a male is usually the Dominant one in a relationship... The wanting to be with someone of the same gender is in the natural making of people regardless of what they look like...
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My ex girlfriend had beautiful long blonde hair and a very tall womanly figure, I am short, have short hair.
We laughed once whilst out that people must figure I'm the "butch" one due to the fact I have short hair and wasn't as "womanly" in shape or attitude.
However we didn't come together due to those reasons, we fell for eachothers personalities.
Just so happened we looked and behaved differently, however we were both very much women out of the sheets and between them x |
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"My ex girlfriend had beautiful long blonde hair and a very tall womanly figure, I am short, have short hair.
We laughed once whilst out that people must figure I'm the "butch" one due to the fact I have short hair and wasn't as "womanly" in shape or attitude.
However we didn't come together due to those reasons, we fell for eachothers personalities.
Just so happened we looked and behaved differently, however we were both very much women out of the sheets and between them x"
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"My ex girlfriend had beautiful long blonde hair and a very tall womanly figure, I am short, have short hair.
We laughed once whilst out that people must figure I'm the "butch" one due to the fact I have short hair and wasn't as "womanly" in shape or attitude.
However we didn't come together due to those reasons, we fell for eachothers personalities.
Just so happened we looked and behaved differently, however we were both very much women out of the sheets and between them x"
But it's strange how many lipstick lesbians randomly fall for the personality of a butch lesbians as opposed to another lipstick lesbian? |
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts? "
No thoughts at all. People go for people they like. Problem? |
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"Why do some women go for androgynous looking guys or guys with long girly hair or very feminine looking guys?
The only feminine guys I see are gay ones.
My son is feminine looking, he is not gay.
I'm feminine looking and I'm not gay."
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Worth taking into account the way some lesbians choose the way they present themselves is political. I've known many a femme lady turn uber butch once they've started reading French feminism and loathe the idea of being attractive to men.
But then again, I know diesel dykes who are as lovely as can be and couldn't give a flying frig how they appear. To anyone. More power to them.
I've been both butch and femme, now dangle somewhere in the middle. Mainly because I look better with a spot of makeup on (or if working, a lot. Because that's my job) and feel more comfortable. It's nobody else's business.
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"My ex girlfriend had beautiful long blonde hair and a very tall womanly figure, I am short, have short hair.
We laughed once whilst out that people must figure I'm the "butch" one due to the fact I have short hair and wasn't as "womanly" in shape or attitude.
However we didn't come together due to those reasons, we fell for eachothers personalities.
Just so happened we looked and behaved differently, however we were both very much women out of the sheets and between them x
But it's strange how many lipstick lesbians randomly fall for the personality of a butch lesbians as opposed to another lipstick lesbian? "
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"It's because they aren't gay at all. Lesbians are cool so they are just pretending to be one. They choose a woman that looks like a man because they don't fancy women.
Much like "bi curious" women on here that lie back with their eyes closed so a woman will lick her as her husband watches.
Women that wear trousers secretly want to be men. They have cock envy. "
This is true, I wear jeans most of the time.
I  your posts Scarlet |
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts?
No thoughts at all. People go for people they like. Problem?"
Is it a problem to ask? |
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts?
No thoughts at all. People go for people they like. Problem?
Is it a problem to ask? "
Not a problem to ask. Except it does seem a trifle insensitive and generalising.
If one person likes another, then they like them. It is not a mystery. |
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts?
No thoughts at all. People go for people they like. Problem?
Is it a problem to ask?
Not a problem to ask. Except it does seem a trifle insensitive and generalising.
If one person likes another, then they like them. It is not a mystery."
All I see is someone who wants to better understand a minority group.
The fact that one person likes another is not an explanation of why they like that person or what exactly it is that they like. |
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts?
No thoughts at all. People go for people they like. Problem?
Is it a problem to ask?
Not a problem to ask. Except it does seem a trifle insensitive and generalising.
If one person likes another, then they like them. It is not a mystery.
All I see is someone who wants to better understand a minority group.
The fact that one person likes another is not an explanation of why they like that person or what exactly it is that they like. "
* for you.
As discussed at length, you're not the best person to judge what others find attractive |
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts?
No thoughts at all. People go for people they like. Problem?
Is it a problem to ask?
Not a problem to ask. Except it does seem a trifle insensitive and generalising.
If one person likes another, then they like them. It is not a mystery.
All I see is someone who wants to better understand a minority group.
The fact that one person likes another is not an explanation of why they like that person or what exactly it is that they like.
* for you.
As discussed at length, you're not the best person to judge what others find attractive "
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts?
No thoughts at all. People go for people they like. Problem?
Is it a problem to ask?
Not a problem to ask. Except it does seem a trifle insensitive and generalising.
If one person likes another, then they like them. It is not a mystery.
All I see is someone who wants to better understand a minority group.
The fact that one person likes another is not an explanation of why they like that person or what exactly it is that they like.
* for you.
As discussed at length, you're not the best person to judge what others find attractive
Only in world without any correlations about what other people deem attractive. I'm still waiting on you to explain the logical error with my diabetes analogy. In the interim I'll assume there isn't one though. "
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts?
No thoughts at all. People go for people they like. Problem?
Is it a problem to ask?
Not a problem to ask. Except it does seem a trifle insensitive and generalising.
If one person likes another, then they like them. It is not a mystery.
All I see is someone who wants to better understand a minority group.
The fact that one person likes another is not an explanation of why they like that person or what exactly it is that they like.
* for you.
As discussed at length, you're not the best person to judge what others find attractive
Only in world without any correlations about what other people deem attractive. I'm still waiting on you to explain the logical error with my diabetes analogy. In the interim I'll assume there isn't one though.
I told you already - it's a straw man argument "
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“The problem with today’s world is that everyone believes they have the right to express their opinion AND have others listen to it.
"The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!"
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts?
No thoughts at all. People go for people they like. Problem?
Is it a problem to ask?
Not a problem to ask. Except it does seem a trifle insensitive and generalising.
If one person likes another, then they like them. It is not a mystery.
All I see is someone who wants to better understand a minority group.
The fact that one person likes another is not an explanation of why they like that person or what exactly it is that they like.
* for you.
As discussed at length, you're not the best person to judge what others find attractive
Only in world without any correlations about what other people deem attractive. I'm still waiting on you to explain the logical error with my diabetes analogy. In the interim I'll assume there isn't one though.
I told you already - it's a straw man argument
Then clearly I don't understand the point you are making. I'm all ears though if you can dumb it down for me? "
You're now asking me to disprove a negative.
I've maintained all along that the question is flawed.
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"Everyone's got an opinion Joe...
“The problem with today’s world is that everyone believes they have the right to express their opinion AND have others listen to it.
"The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!"
~ Brian Cox"
Well I think it's demonstrably nonsense to suggest straight people can't explain gay behaviour so hey ho. |
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"Everyone's got an opinion Joe...
“The problem with today’s world is that everyone believes they have the right to express their opinion AND have others listen to it.
"The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!"
~ Brian Cox
Well I think it's demonstrably nonsense to suggest straight people can't explain gay behaviour so hey ho. "
No, that's not what I said - straw manning again - but straight people speak about other people's sexualities as if they own and understand them.
Which is not the case.
As I pointed out much, much earlier, it might be more pertinant to ask the question and then for gay/bisexual women to answer and for heterosexuals to fall silent.
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"Everyone's got an opinion Joe...
“The problem with today’s world is that everyone believes they have the right to express their opinion AND have others listen to it.
"The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!"
~ Brian Cox
Well I think it's demonstrably nonsense to suggest straight people can't explain gay behaviour so hey ho.
No, that's not what I said - straw manning again - but straight people speak about other people's sexualities as if they own and understand them.
Which is not the case.
As I pointed out much, much earlier, it might be more pertinant to ask the question and then for gay/bisexual women to answer and for heterosexuals to fall silent.
Simple. "
If what you've just said doesn't complain an implicit assumption that straight people can't explain gay behaviour then one of us doesn't understand the English language. |
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"If what you've just said doesn't complain an implicit assumption that straight people can't explain gay behaviour then one of us doesn't understand the English language."
* in your opinion.
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts?
No thoughts at all. People go for people they like. Problem?
Is it a problem to ask?
Not a problem to ask. Except it does seem a trifle insensitive and generalising.
If one person likes another, then they like them. It is not a mystery.
All I see is someone who wants to better understand a minority group.
The fact that one person likes another is not an explanation of why they like that person or what exactly it is that they like. "
How can you explain attraction? It is an emotional response. There is no logic to it. |
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts?
No thoughts at all. People go for people they like. Problem?
Is it a problem to ask?
Not a problem to ask. Except it does seem a trifle insensitive and generalising.
If one person likes another, then they like them. It is not a mystery.
All I see is someone who wants to better understand a minority group.
The fact that one person likes another is not an explanation of why they like that person or what exactly it is that they like.
How can you explain attraction? It is an emotional response. There is no logic to it."
If there was no logic then there wouldn't be any correlations.
It's pretty easy to explain attraction. For example, the general consensus is that facial symmetry is attractive, the theory is that its subconsciously associated with good genes.
There are other trends with male height and women's hip to waist ratio for example. |
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts?
No thoughts at all. People go for people they like. Problem?
Is it a problem to ask?
Not a problem to ask. Except it does seem a trifle insensitive and generalising.
If one person likes another, then they like them. It is not a mystery.
All I see is someone who wants to better understand a minority group.
The fact that one person likes another is not an explanation of why they like that person or what exactly it is that they like.
How can you explain attraction? It is an emotional response. There is no logic to it.
If there was no logic then there wouldn't be any correlations.
It's pretty easy to explain attraction. For example, the general consensus is that facial symmetry is attractive, the theory is that its subconsciously associated with good genes.
There are other trends with male height and women's hip to waist ratio for example. "
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts?
No thoughts at all. People go for people they like. Problem?
Is it a problem to ask?
Not a problem to ask. Except it does seem a trifle insensitive and generalising.
If one person likes another, then they like them. It is not a mystery.
All I see is someone who wants to better understand a minority group.
The fact that one person likes another is not an explanation of why they like that person or what exactly it is that they like.
How can you explain attraction? It is an emotional response. There is no logic to it.
If there was no logic then there wouldn't be any correlations.
It's pretty easy to explain attraction. For example, the general consensus is that facial symmetry is attractive, the theory is that its subconsciously associated with good genes.
There are other trends with male height and women's hip to waist ratio for example. "
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts?
No thoughts at all. People go for people they like. Problem?
Is it a problem to ask?
Not a problem to ask. Except it does seem a trifle insensitive and generalising.
If one person likes another, then they like them. It is not a mystery.
All I see is someone who wants to better understand a minority group.
The fact that one person likes another is not an explanation of why they like that person or what exactly it is that they like.
How can you explain attraction? It is an emotional response. There is no logic to it.
If there was no logic then there wouldn't be any correlations.
It's pretty easy to explain attraction. For example, the general consensus is that facial symmetry is attractive, the theory is that its subconsciously associated with good genes.
There are other trends with male height and women's hip to waist ratio for example.
And the scientific formula is? "
This is the problem - we might want to find a 'magic formula' for attraction and, yes there are traits that can be considered to be generally attractive but these are piss poor at determining the specific attractions of individuals.
Unless we're simply reverting to stereotypes? |
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts?
No thoughts at all. People go for people they like. Problem?
Is it a problem to ask?
Not a problem to ask. Except it does seem a trifle insensitive and generalising.
If one person likes another, then they like them. It is not a mystery.
All I see is someone who wants to better understand a minority group.
The fact that one person likes another is not an explanation of why they like that person or what exactly it is that they like.
How can you explain attraction? It is an emotional response. There is no logic to it.
If there was no logic then there wouldn't be any correlations.
It's pretty easy to explain attraction. For example, the general consensus is that facial symmetry is attractive, the theory is that its subconsciously associated with good genes.
There are other trends with male height and women's hip to waist ratio for example.
And the scientific formula is?
This is the problem - we might want to find a 'magic formula' for attraction and, yes there are traits that can be considered to be generally attractive but these are piss poor at determining the specific attractions of individuals.
Unless we're simply reverting to stereotypes? "
It's a matter of probability, a concept most people have great difficulty with. |
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts?
No thoughts at all. People go for people they like. Problem?
Is it a problem to ask?
Not a problem to ask. Except it does seem a trifle insensitive and generalising.
If one person likes another, then they like them. It is not a mystery.
All I see is someone who wants to better understand a minority group.
The fact that one person likes another is not an explanation of why they like that person or what exactly it is that they like.
How can you explain attraction? It is an emotional response. There is no logic to it.
If there was no logic then there wouldn't be any correlations.
It's pretty easy to explain attraction. For example, the general consensus is that facial symmetry is attractive, the theory is that its subconsciously associated with good genes.
There are other trends with male height and women's hip to waist ratio for example.
And the scientific formula is?
This is the problem - we might want to find a 'magic formula' for attraction and, yes there are traits that can be considered to be generally attractive but these are piss poor at determining the specific attractions of individuals.
Unless we're simply reverting to stereotypes?
It's a matter of probability, a concept most people have great difficulty with. "
What is a matter of probability?
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts?
No thoughts at all. People go for people they like. Problem?
Is it a problem to ask?
Not a problem to ask. Except it does seem a trifle insensitive and generalising.
If one person likes another, then they like them. It is not a mystery.
All I see is someone who wants to better understand a minority group.
The fact that one person likes another is not an explanation of why they like that person or what exactly it is that they like.
How can you explain attraction? It is an emotional response. There is no logic to it.
If there was no logic then there wouldn't be any correlations.
It's pretty easy to explain attraction. For example, the general consensus is that facial symmetry is attractive, the theory is that its subconsciously associated with good genes.
There are other trends with male height and women's hip to waist ratio for example.
And the scientific formula is?
This is the problem - we might want to find a 'magic formula' for attraction and, yes there are traits that can be considered to be generally attractive but these are piss poor at determining the specific attractions of individuals.
Unless we're simply reverting to stereotypes?
It's a matter of probability, a concept most people have great difficulty with.
What is a matter of probability?
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts?
No thoughts at all. People go for people they like. Problem?
Is it a problem to ask?
Not a problem to ask. Except it does seem a trifle insensitive and generalising.
If one person likes another, then they like them. It is not a mystery.
All I see is someone who wants to better understand a minority group.
The fact that one person likes another is not an explanation of why they like that person or what exactly it is that they like.
How can you explain attraction? It is an emotional response. There is no logic to it.
If there was no logic then there wouldn't be any correlations.
It's pretty easy to explain attraction. For example, the general consensus is that facial symmetry is attractive, the theory is that its subconsciously associated with good genes.
There are other trends with male height and women's hip to waist ratio for example.
And the scientific formula is?
This is the problem - we might want to find a 'magic formula' for attraction and, yes there are traits that can be considered to be generally attractive but these are piss poor at determining the specific attractions of individuals.
Unless we're simply reverting to stereotypes?
It's a matter of probability, a concept most people have great difficulty with.
What is a matter of probability?
That two given people will be attracted to each other "
But you will agree that not all lesbians go for 'bull dykes', just as not every gay man goes for a limp-wristed lisper, nor can the preferences of every straight man or woman can be pigeon-holed in the same way.
Look at the wide range of porn on offer, or the number of threads about what various people find attractive. One size does not fit all.
The question began with a flawed supposition.
My point was that, if you wanted a reasonable answer let some gay/bi women to answer - rather than have two bi guys argue over statistical probability...
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts?
No thoughts at all. People go for people they like. Problem?
Is it a problem to ask?
Not a problem to ask. Except it does seem a trifle insensitive and generalising.
If one person likes another, then they like them. It is not a mystery.
All I see is someone who wants to better understand a minority group.
The fact that one person likes another is not an explanation of why they like that person or what exactly it is that they like.
How can you explain attraction? It is an emotional response. There is no logic to it.
If there was no logic then there wouldn't be any correlations.
It's pretty easy to explain attraction. For example, the general consensus is that facial symmetry is attractive, the theory is that its subconsciously associated with good genes.
There are other trends with male height and women's hip to waist ratio for example.
And the scientific formula is?
This is the problem - we might want to find a 'magic formula' for attraction and, yes there are traits that can be considered to be generally attractive but these are piss poor at determining the specific attractions of individuals.
Unless we're simply reverting to stereotypes?
It's a matter of probability, a concept most people have great difficulty with.
What is a matter of probability?
That two given people will be attracted to each other
But you will agree that not all lesbians go for 'bull dykes', just as not every gay man goes for a limp-wristed lisper, nor can the preferences of every straight man or woman can be pigeon-holed in the same way.
Look at the wide range of porn on offer, or the number of threads about what various people find attractive. One size does not fit all.
The question began with a flawed supposition.
My point was that, if you wanted a reasonable answer let some gay/bi women to answer - rather than have two bi guys argue over statistical probability...
imo
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts?
No thoughts at all. People go for people they like. Problem?
Is it a problem to ask?
Not a problem to ask. Except it does seem a trifle insensitive and generalising.
If one person likes another, then they like them. It is not a mystery.
All I see is someone who wants to better understand a minority group.
The fact that one person likes another is not an explanation of why they like that person or what exactly it is that they like.
How can you explain attraction? It is an emotional response. There is no logic to it.
If there was no logic then there wouldn't be any correlations.
It's pretty easy to explain attraction. For example, the general consensus is that facial symmetry is attractive, the theory is that its subconsciously associated with good genes.
There are other trends with male height and women's hip to waist ratio for example.
And the scientific formula is?
This is the problem - we might want to find a 'magic formula' for attraction and, yes there are traits that can be considered to be generally attractive but these are piss poor at determining the specific attractions of individuals.
Unless we're simply reverting to stereotypes?
It's a matter of probability, a concept most people have great difficulty with.
What is a matter of probability?
That two given people will be attracted to each other
But you will agree that not all lesbians go for 'bull dykes', just as not every gay man goes for a limp-wristed lisper, nor can the preferences of every straight man or woman can be pigeon-holed in the same way.
Look at the wide range of porn on offer, or the number of threads about what various people find attractive. One size does not fit all.
The question began with a flawed supposition.
My point was that, if you wanted a reasonable answer let some gay/bi women to answer - rather than have two bi guys argue over statistical probability...
imo
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"I don't like women that look like guys. Nor guys that take longer then me to get ready or to feminine.
I like womanly women and manly men.
Any fancy a fuck after 5pm?
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"Why do some go for lesbians that look like men?
I often ask myself this question when I see a lesbian couple and both are "butch" look like men or one looks "butch" like a man and the other one looks more feminine.
Thoughts?
No thoughts at all. People go for people they like. Problem?
Is it a problem to ask?
Not a problem to ask. Except it does seem a trifle insensitive and generalising.
If one person likes another, then they like them. It is not a mystery."
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