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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Well next door's son has just Knocked his Dad out with a few punches. Why or what in God's name would make someone attack their own parent's

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman  over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I ask the same question when parents knock they're kids about

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


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Exactly

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I ask the same question when parents knock they're kids about "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I can think of a good few things.

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

It happens and more than is reported.

I don't know the domestic violence organisation for your area that helps with this but it is worth contacting the domestic abuse charities locally in case one of them is running a service on this.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Maybe has issues generated by his parents, maybe his beliefs differ from his parents, maybe his parents are twats ?

Or maybe he's just plain old phsycopath that needs locking up ?

I think the best person to ask is him

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"It happens and more than is reported.

I don't know the domestic violence organisation for your area that helps with this but it is worth contacting the domestic abuse charities locally in case one of them is running a service on this.

"

The Police have just turned up

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well next door's son has just Knocked his Dad out with a few punches. Why or what in God's name would make someone attack their own parent's "

Past abuse, alcoholism, drugs,

Mental health issues.

Lots of reasons.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Its a shame when people think violence is the answer whether it be a family or not

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By *etsdance1987Man  over a year ago

Runcorn

Maybe it was because Sunderland just lost and he took it out on his dad

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Its a shame when people think violence is the answer whether it be a family or not "
This is my view too

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Assertive communication is the key

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Its a shame when people think violence is the answer whether it be a family or not This is my view too"

I cant and wont swear in front of my parents let alone anything else

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I suppose some people are raised to believe in violence being the first answer to solving problems.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

The reason being given is his Father wouldn't lend him any money

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Maybe it was because Sunderland just lost and he took it out on his dad "

That happens more than you'd think. Not just Sunderland, obviously.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Maybe it was because Sunderland just lost and he took it out on his dad "

Must happen a lot then

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well next door's son has just Knocked his Dad out with a few punches. Why or what in God's name would make someone attack their own parent's "

there are probably plenty of reasons..

it happens

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well next door's son has just Knocked his Dad out with a few punches. Why or what in God's name would make someone attack their own parent's "

Beer, lots of it usually

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I suppose some people are raised to believe in violence being the first answer to solving problems. "

Questioning our own beliefs is in my opinion the first step towards a more positive outlook on life

It's not absolutely life threatening if you don't go the pub every evening after work but there are those that think if they don't there whole worlds going to fall apart

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Maybe he was defending his mum from his dad

Was in severe domestic violence for 21 years

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire


"The reason being given is his Father wouldn't lend him any money "
i know someone who murdered there mum and dad and hid the bodies because they wouldnt lend them money but he was a sociaopath

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The reason being given is his Father wouldn't lend him any money "

Well if was old enough to knock his dad out he's probably old enough to earn his own money so....just a Dick.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The reason being given is his Father wouldn't lend him any money "

He's likely watched his dad control the upkeep of the home, undermined his mothers authority in doing so, in doing so son thinks violence is the way to get what he desires and thus enforcing those beliefs, just a scenario I guess

This happens more than society cares to admit.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

He is 24 yrs old

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By *igeiaWoman  over a year ago

Bristol


"Well next door's son has just Knocked his Dad out with a few punches. Why or what in God's name would make someone attack their own parent's "

My brother punched my dad full in the face once. It was totally justified since it stopped his attack on my mum in its tracks. God had nothing to do with it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The reason being given is his Father wouldn't lend him any money

Well if was old enough to knock his dad out he's probably old enough to earn his own money so....just a Dick. "

Maybe mother is the bread winner and son has grown up watching dad use aggression to control mother and the houses income, these beliefs that violence gets son what he wants have been passed to him some how and 9/10 it's our own parents that enforce these beliefs on us

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"He is 24 yrs old"

Then he's a nasty cunt who needs to sort his attitude out

24 and still sponging off his parents? Dick

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The reason being given is his Father wouldn't lend him any money

Well if was old enough to knock his dad out he's probably old enough to earn his own money so....just a Dick.

Maybe mother is the bread winner and son has grown up watching dad use aggression to control mother and the houses income, these beliefs that violence gets son what he wants have been passed to him some how and 9/10 it's our own parents that enforce these beliefs on us "

Unlikely. What is likely is his parents have put up with his shit for ages, and his dad put his foot down and said no.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

He put his Girlfriend in Hospital just before xmas gone, beat her up in front of kids, don't know how he didn't get time for it but he didn't. I think he got bound over for a year or so, but maybe this will get him a sentence. They've just carted him away

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By *or Fox SakeCouple  over a year ago

Thornaby


"Maybe it was because Sunderland just lost and he took it out on his dad "

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford

It sometimes happens.

I had an actual fight with my dad when I was....maybe 20. Your family know how to wind you up like nobody else can. I have to say nobody knocked anyone out and it was all over pretty quickly. I think if you had asked me (and him) before and after we would have still said that we loved each other, we are still close as a family.

I think the answer is possibly testosterone.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

A sociopath, a narcissist, raised to believe he is a god, defending himself or someone else, goaded into losing a temper over which he has little control, violence is the norm in that family, mental illness...

The possibilities are many, as Tolstoy said "each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way".

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"He put his Girlfriend in Hospital just before xmas gone, beat her up in front of kids, don't know how he didn't get time for it but he didn't. I think he got bound over for a year or so, but maybe this will get him a sentence. They've just carted him away"

Beat his girlfriend up in front of her kids. Tells me all I need to know

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Well next door's son has just Knocked his Dad out with a few punches. Why or what in God's name would make someone attack their own parent's "

Sounds like one for the police, tbh

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Well next door's son has just Knocked his Dad out with a few punches. Why or what in God's name would make someone attack their own parent's

Sounds like one for the police, tbh"

they have him in the back of their van

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By *isalovezTV/TS  over a year ago

Paris

It's grim up north.

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

Used to live in a block of flats in central London.

We get two new neighbours, a young woman and her 6yr old kid. Fine fin, chat chat, proverbial cup of sugar.

One evening I hear this screaming out on the corridor and it's the girl. She's screaming, "Daddy's hitting mummy!"

And I go in the house and, no word of a lie, there's claret up the stairs and hallway. And he's got her pinned on the couch, beating seven shades out of her.

I shout, he sees me. I don;t know what to do but he makes the decision for me and just stops and runs out.

Ambulance, paramedics, hospital. She refused to press charges.

:/

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Well next door's son has just Knocked his Dad out with a few punches. Why or what in God's name would make someone attack their own parent's

Sounds like one for the police, tbhthey have him in the back of their van"

Probably just as well

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It is their upbrining, jeremey kyle comes to mind.

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"It is their upbrining, jeremey kyle comes to mind. "

None of us have the faintest idea of the circumstances or family dynamic.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

How old was the son. I remember my brother who used to be very hot headed and my dad came to blows a few times and every door upstairs having holes in where he had punched x

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman  over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!


"It's grim up north. "

and down south by the sounds of it...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It is their upbrining, jeremey kyle comes to mind.

None of us have the faintest idea of the circumstances or family dynamic."

It's called probability Diamond

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It is their upbrining, jeremey kyle comes to mind.

None of us have the faintest idea of the circumstances or family dynamic.

It's called probability Diamond"

That is right

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"It is their upbrining, jeremey kyle comes to mind.

None of us have the faintest idea of the circumstances or family dynamic.

It's called probability Diamond"

What is probability?

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"It is their upbrining, jeremey kyle comes to mind.

None of us have the faintest idea of the circumstances or family dynamic.

It's called probability Diamond

What is probability?"

If it's one thing a decade in casework taught me - assume nothing

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It is their upbrining, jeremey kyle comes to mind.

None of us have the faintest idea of the circumstances or family dynamic.

It's called probability Diamond

What is probability?"

It's a way that allows us to make statistically valid assumptions about people without knowing their circumstances.

You should try it, the world becomes a lot less confusing.

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"It is their upbrining, jeremey kyle comes to mind.

None of us have the faintest idea of the circumstances or family dynamic.

It's called probability Diamond

What is probability?

It's a way that allows us to make statistically valid assumptions about people without knowing their circumstances.

You should try it, the world becomes a lot less confusing. "

See my previous post

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It is their upbrining, jeremey kyle comes to mind.

None of us have the faintest idea of the circumstances or family dynamic.

It's called probability Diamond

What is probability?

If it's one thing a decade in casework taught me - assume nothing"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It is their upbrining, jeremey kyle comes to mind.

None of us have the faintest idea of the circumstances or family dynamic.

It's called probability Diamond

What is probability?

It's a way that allows us to make statistically valid assumptions about people without knowing their circumstances.

You should try it, the world becomes a lot less confusing.

See my previous post "

It doesn't change mine if one understand what statistics are and how to use them.

People really struggle with probably. Let's there's a 70% probability that a 24 year old, who knocks out his own father, has a substance abuse problem. Then 7 out of 10 of your cases will have this issue and 3 won't. Obviously if you assume substance abuse is the problem at the start of each case then 3 out of 10 won't go well.

If your opening guess is, 'maybe he was defending his mum', then you are going to be wrong most of the time and waste a lot of time.

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"It is their upbrining, jeremey kyle comes to mind.

None of us have the faintest idea of the circumstances or family dynamic.

It's called probability Diamond

What is probability?

It's a way that allows us to make statistically valid assumptions about people without knowing their circumstances.

You should try it, the world becomes a lot less confusing.

See my previous post

It doesn't change mine if one understand what statistics are and how to use them.

People really struggle with probably. Let's there's a 70% probability that a 24 year old, who knocks out his own father, has a substance abuse problem. Then 7 out of 10 of your cases will have this issue and 3 won't. Obviously if you assume substance abuse is the problem at the start of each case then 3 out of 10 won't go well.

If your opening guess is, 'maybe he was defending his mum', then you are going to be wrong most of the time and waste a lot of time. "

It's speculation.

And where do you get your "70% probability" from?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It is their upbrining, jeremey kyle comes to mind.

None of us have the faintest idea of the circumstances or family dynamic.

It's called probability Diamond

What is probability?

It's a way that allows us to make statistically valid assumptions about people without knowing their circumstances.

You should try it, the world becomes a lot less confusing.

See my previous post

It doesn't change mine if one understand what statistics are and how to use them.

People really struggle with probably. Let's there's a 70% probability that a 24 year old, who knocks out his own father, has a substance abuse problem. Then 7 out of 10 of your cases will have this issue and 3 won't. Obviously if you assume substance abuse is the problem at the start of each case then 3 out of 10 won't go well.

If your opening guess is, 'maybe he was defending his mum', then you are going to be wrong most of the time and waste a lot of time.

It's speculation.

And where do you get your "70% probability" from?"

Statistics are the opposite of speculation. Starting every case with an attitude of "well there could be any number of causes for this problem" is speculation!

70% is just an example. I have no doubt you could find the actual stats if you wanted to. In the grand scheme of things, the causes of domestic violence aren't such a mystery. Not really up there with black holes and string theory.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Used to live in a block of flats in central London.

We get two new neighbours, a young woman and her 6yr old kid. Fine fin, chat chat, proverbial cup of sugar.

One evening I hear this screaming out on the corridor and it's the girl. She's screaming, "Daddy's hitting mummy!"

And I go in the house and, no word of a lie, there's claret up the stairs and hallway. And he's got her pinned on the couch, beating seven shades out of her.

I shout, he sees me. I don;t know what to do but he makes the decision for me and just stops and runs out.

Ambulance, paramedics, hospital. She refused to press charges.

:/"

1st few times my ex battered me I didn't press charges. Didn't even fight back.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well next door's son has just Knocked his Dad out with a few punches. Why or what in God's name would make someone attack their own parent's "

What if hes had enough of his dad knocking him or his mum about. No one knows what happens behind closed doors so best to stay out of it and not speculate

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"It is their upbrining, jeremey kyle comes to mind.

None of us have the faintest idea of the circumstances or family dynamic.

It's called probability Diamond

What is probability?

It's a way that allows us to make statistically valid assumptions about people without knowing their circumstances.

You should try it, the world becomes a lot less confusing.

See my previous post

It doesn't change mine if one understand what statistics are and how to use them.

People really struggle with probably. Let's there's a 70% probability that a 24 year old, who knocks out his own father, has a substance abuse problem. Then 7 out of 10 of your cases will have this issue and 3 won't. Obviously if you assume substance abuse is the problem at the start of each case then 3 out of 10 won't go well.

If your opening guess is, 'maybe he was defending his mum', then you are going to be wrong most of the time and waste a lot of time.

It's speculation.

And where do you get your "70% probability" from?

Statistics are the opposite of speculation. Starting every case with an attitude of "well there could be any number of causes for this problem" is speculation!

70% is just an example. I have no doubt you could find the actual stats if you wanted to. In the grand scheme of things, the causes of domestic violence aren't such a mystery. Not really up there with black holes and string theory. "

Yes: "Statistics are the opposite of speculation."

No: "70% is just an example."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well next door's son has just Knocked his Dad out with a few punches. Why or what in God's name would make someone attack their own parent's

What if hes had enough of his dad knocking him or his mum about. No one knows what happens behind closed doors so best to stay out of it and not speculate"

Post above explain's he beat his gf up in front of her kids previously, and that this was because dad wouldn't lend him money.

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Used to live in a block of flats in central London.

We get two new neighbours, a young woman and her 6yr old kid. Fine fin, chat chat, proverbial cup of sugar.

One evening I hear this screaming out on the corridor and it's the girl. She's screaming, "Daddy's hitting mummy!"

And I go in the house and, no word of a lie, there's claret up the stairs and hallway. And he's got her pinned on the couch, beating seven shades out of her.

I shout, he sees me. I don;t know what to do but he makes the decision for me and just stops and runs out.

Ambulance, paramedics, hospital. She refused to press charges.

:/

1st few times my ex battered me I didn't press charges. Didn't even fight back. "

Absolutely. I've worked with DV victims, male and female. I think the average is 35 assaults before leaving.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Used to live in a block of flats in central London.

We get two new neighbours, a young woman and her 6yr old kid. Fine fin, chat chat, proverbial cup of sugar.

One evening I hear this screaming out on the corridor and it's the girl. She's screaming, "Daddy's hitting mummy!"

And I go in the house and, no word of a lie, there's claret up the stairs and hallway. And he's got her pinned on the couch, beating seven shades out of her.

I shout, he sees me. I don;t know what to do but he makes the decision for me and just stops and runs out.

Ambulance, paramedics, hospital. She refused to press charges.

:/

1st few times my ex battered me I didn't press charges. Didn't even fight back.

Absolutely. I've worked with DV victims, male and female. I think the average is 35 assaults before leaving."

Well I beat the average assault 16 was infront of my mother. By the time I got out the station from doing statements, all mine and my then 6 months old stuff was packed and gone, she'd phoned some of my mates, and her and my sister cleared us out of there. I got lucky.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Used to live in a block of flats in central London.

We get two new neighbours, a young woman and her 6yr old kid. Fine fin, chat chat, proverbial cup of sugar.

One evening I hear this screaming out on the corridor and it's the girl. She's screaming, "Daddy's hitting mummy!"

And I go in the house and, no word of a lie, there's claret up the stairs and hallway. And he's got her pinned on the couch, beating seven shades out of her.

I shout, he sees me. I don;t know what to do but he makes the decision for me and just stops and runs out.

Ambulance, paramedics, hospital. She refused to press charges.

:/

1st few times my ex battered me I didn't press charges. Didn't even fight back.

Absolutely. I've worked with DV victims, male and female. I think the average is 35 assaults before leaving."

And if one leaves but there is no intervention (e.g. police action, counselling, behaviour modification) do most of those men repeat the behaviour with their next partner?

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Used to live in a block of flats in central London.

We get two new neighbours, a young woman and her 6yr old kid. Fine fin, chat chat, proverbial cup of sugar.

One evening I hear this screaming out on the corridor and it's the girl. She's screaming, "Daddy's hitting mummy!"

And I go in the house and, no word of a lie, there's claret up the stairs and hallway. And he's got her pinned on the couch, beating seven shades out of her.

I shout, he sees me. I don;t know what to do but he makes the decision for me and just stops and runs out.

Ambulance, paramedics, hospital. She refused to press charges.

:/

1st few times my ex battered me I didn't press charges. Didn't even fight back.

Absolutely. I've worked with DV victims, male and female. I think the average is 35 assaults before leaving.

And if one leaves but there is no intervention (e.g. police action, counselling, behaviour modification) do most of those men repeat the behaviour with their next partner? "

Quite possibly - but how did you get the 70%?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Used to live in a block of flats in central London.

We get two new neighbours, a young woman and her 6yr old kid. Fine fin, chat chat, proverbial cup of sugar.

One evening I hear this screaming out on the corridor and it's the girl. She's screaming, "Daddy's hitting mummy!"

And I go in the house and, no word of a lie, there's claret up the stairs and hallway. And he's got her pinned on the couch, beating seven shades out of her.

I shout, he sees me. I don;t know what to do but he makes the decision for me and just stops and runs out.

Ambulance, paramedics, hospital. She refused to press charges.

:/

1st few times my ex battered me I didn't press charges. Didn't even fight back.

Absolutely. I've worked with DV victims, male and female. I think the average is 35 assaults before leaving.

And if one leaves but there is no intervention (e.g. police action, counselling, behaviour modification) do most of those men repeat the behaviour with their next partner?

Quite possibly - but how did you get the 70%?

"

I told you, it's just a hypothetical illustration. I meant to write "let's assume that" but mistyped it and the autocorrect stepped in.

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By *ynecplCouple  over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

And if the victim doesn't press charges there is no intervention regardless of who knows what is going on.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Used to live in a block of flats in central London.

We get two new neighbours, a young woman and her 6yr old kid. Fine fin, chat chat, proverbial cup of sugar.

One evening I hear this screaming out on the corridor and it's the girl. She's screaming, "Daddy's hitting mummy!"

And I go in the house and, no word of a lie, there's claret up the stairs and hallway. And he's got her pinned on the couch, beating seven shades out of her.

I shout, he sees me. I don;t know what to do but he makes the decision for me and just stops and runs out.

Ambulance, paramedics, hospital. She refused to press charges.

:/

1st few times my ex battered me I didn't press charges. Didn't even fight back.

Absolutely. I've worked with DV victims, male and female. I think the average is 35 assaults before leaving.

And if one leaves but there is no intervention (e.g. police action, counselling, behaviour modification) do most of those men repeat the behaviour with their next partner? "

My ex had never done it before, and hasn't to his new gf he's been with nearly 2 yrs. We had lost our son the yr before. But I think most probably do it again.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Domestic violence is not just about fists or even physical harm, having one too many at the works party then returning home to then tell yr devoted hubby that worships the ground you walk on how his dicks to small is domestic violence, using faked emotions to get what you want from your partner is domestic violence

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The biggest portion of domestic violence goes unheard of or reported and those are both physical and emotional beatings, and guess what, the biggest portion of unheard of or reported domestic violence cases are infact inflicted on men

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"having one too many at the works party then returning home to then tell yr devoted hubby that worships the ground you walk on how his dicks to small is domestic violence "

We call that cuckolding around here!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Its a shame when people think violence is the answer whether it be a family or not This is my view too"
same view here unless I'm in dom mode

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Domestic violence is not just about fists or even physical harm, having one too many at the works party then returning home to then tell yr devoted hubby that worships the ground you walk on how his dicks to small is domestic violence, using faked emotions to get what you want from your partner is domestic violence "

That's domestic abuse. It's only domestic violence if there is violence involved.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Used to live in a block of flats in central London.

We get two new neighbours, a young woman and her 6yr old kid. Fine fin, chat chat, proverbial cup of sugar.

One evening I hear this screaming out on the corridor and it's the girl. She's screaming, "Daddy's hitting mummy!"

And I go in the house and, no word of a lie, there's claret up the stairs and hallway. And he's got her pinned on the couch, beating seven shades out of her.

I shout, he sees me. I don;t know what to do but he makes the decision for me and just stops and runs out.

Ambulance, paramedics, hospital. She refused to press charges.

:/

1st few times my ex battered me I didn't press charges. Didn't even fight back.

Absolutely. I've worked with DV victims, male and female. I think the average is 35 assaults before leaving.

And if one leaves but there is no intervention (e.g. police action, counselling, behaviour modification) do most of those men repeat the behaviour with their next partner?

My ex had never done it before, and hasn't to his new gf he's been with nearly 2 yrs. We had lost our son the yr before. But I think most probably do it again."

a harrowing story but one that is offten repated all over the world sadly

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Police are back and now have the mother in the back of the car . The plot thickens

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Used to live in a block of flats in central London.

We get two new neighbours, a young woman and her 6yr old kid. Fine fin, chat chat, proverbial cup of sugar.

One evening I hear this screaming out on the corridor and it's the girl. She's screaming, "Daddy's hitting mummy!"

And I go in the house and, no word of a lie, there's claret up the stairs and hallway. And he's got her pinned on the couch, beating seven shades out of her.

I shout, he sees me. I don;t know what to do but he makes the decision for me and just stops and runs out.

Ambulance, paramedics, hospital. She refused to press charges.

:/

1st few times my ex battered me I didn't press charges. Didn't even fight back. "

I hope you don't feel guilty about that. x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Used to live in a block of flats in central London.

We get two new neighbours, a young woman and her 6yr old kid. Fine fin, chat chat, proverbial cup of sugar.

One evening I hear this screaming out on the corridor and it's the girl. She's screaming, "Daddy's hitting mummy!"

And I go in the house and, no word of a lie, there's claret up the stairs and hallway. And he's got her pinned on the couch, beating seven shades out of her.

I shout, he sees me. I don;t know what to do but he makes the decision for me and just stops and runs out.

Ambulance, paramedics, hospital. She refused to press charges.

:/

1st few times my ex battered me I didn't press charges. Didn't even fight back.

I hope you don't feel guilty about that. x"

No, not now. Was ashamed of myself at the time. But 4 years later I'm OK with it. All of it. I accept that it was out of character, and due to him bottling grief, he's apologised, many times, wouldn't say we're friends now, but friendly, for our daughters sake. His new gf is lovely,x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Police are back and now have the mother in the back of the car . The plot thickens"

Oh blimey!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Used to live in a block of flats in central London.

We get two new neighbours, a young woman and her 6yr old kid. Fine fin, chat chat, proverbial cup of sugar.

One evening I hear this screaming out on the corridor and it's the girl. She's screaming, "Daddy's hitting mummy!"

And I go in the house and, no word of a lie, there's claret up the stairs and hallway. And he's got her pinned on the couch, beating seven shades out of her.

I shout, he sees me. I don;t know what to do but he makes the decision for me and just stops and runs out.

Ambulance, paramedics, hospital. She refused to press charges.

:/

1st few times my ex battered me I didn't press charges. Didn't even fight back.

I hope you don't feel guilty about that. x

No, not now. Was ashamed of myself at the time. But 4 years later I'm OK with it. All of it. I accept that it was out of character, and due to him bottling grief, he's apologised, many times, wouldn't say we're friends now, but friendly, for our daughters sake. His new gf is lovely,x"

That's good. Happy ending. x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

As for partners not pressing charges, hasn't the law been changed so the police can automatically charge without the victim's consent?

I know if a nigh our who best hi girlfriend up black and blue and she had to bang on nigh ours window to get help. She was in hospital for two weeks. She wouldn't press charges despite the police visiting her every two days asking her to. She went back to him to the disgust of neighbours. She has two boys from a previous relationship and the father said he won't be paying her the weekly maintenance aster she went back to a guy who beat get up.

I'm sure the law has changed so the police can charge.

As for me im a male and was the victim of violence from a partner who got moody following drink. I was embarrased to report it or fight back because I was against hitting women after witnessing countless DV. However after the relationship ended we spoke and she said in her previous relationships the only way she and partners hD sex was after a punch up! It was always more passionate and best way to make up. I never hit back and left her frustrated. I'm sure that is no excuse for DV if a man did that hoping for sex to make things up after.

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Police are back and now have the mother in the back of the car . The plot thickens"

Quite possibly for a witness statement.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Police are back and now have the mother in the back of the car . The plot thickens

Quite possibly for a witness statement."

she was in handcuffs

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

For all men experiencing domestic abuse and violence there is the mensadviceline and Mankind.

Look them up. Follow the same advice as for women looking up support and clear your system so it can't be seen what you were looking up and clear phone numbers from your phone.

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By *uzy444Woman  over a year ago

in the suffolk countryside


"He is 24 yrs old

Then he's a nasty cunt who needs to sort his attitude out

24 and still sponging off his parents? Dick "

this little shit..i hope they press charges and dont speak to him again

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Police are back and now have the mother in the back of the car . The plot thickens

Quite possibly for a witness statement.she was in handcuffs"

Well, unless you've got someone at the station and a glass pressed against the party wall leave it at that for now.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well next door's son has just Knocked his Dad out with a few punches. Why or what in God's name would make someone attack their own parent's "

Maybe he's put up with it off his dad for years

Everybody has a breaking point

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By *idsfriendlyfunguyMan  over a year ago

Smethwick


"Maybe it was because Sunderland just lost and he took it out on his dad "

I did think this and a few drinks

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"The reason being given is his Father wouldn't lend him any money "

Read an article last week about "selfish" parents spending their money instead of putting it aside/giving it to their kids.

With that sense of entitlement I'm not surprised some will get violent towards their parents.

Sad state of affairs.

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By *uxom redCouple  over a year ago

Shrewsbury


" I'm sure that is no excuse for DV if a man did that hoping for sex to make things up after.

"

My ex used to beat me then call it make up sex... I called it rape.

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By *ynecplCouple  over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne


"As for partners not pressing charges, hasn't the law been changed so the police can automatically charge without the victim's consent?

I know if a nigh our who best hi girlfriend up black and blue and she had to bang on nigh ours window to get help. She was in hospital for two weeks. She wouldn't press charges despite the police visiting her every two days asking her to. She went back to him to the disgust of neighbours. She has two boys from a previous relationship and the father said he won't be paying her the weekly maintenance aster she went back to a guy who beat get up.

I'm sure the law has changed so the police can charge.

As for me im a male and was the victim of violence from a partner who got moody following drink. I was embarrased to report it or fight back because I was against hitting women after witnessing countless DV. However after the relationship ended we spoke and she said in her previous relationships the only way she and partners hD sex was after a punch up! It was always more passionate and best way to make up. I never hit back and left her frustrated. I'm sure that is no excuse for DV if a man did that hoping for sex to make things up after.

"

So did I until it was happening to a family member and then the police did nothing, kept saying had to be her who pressed charges.

Eventually I snapped and hit him and then spent a couple of days waiting for the police to turn up and charge me but he was such a coward he never reported it. It didn't solve anything but strangely I felt a lot better and it seemed to be the catalyst for her to break away.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Bump..

We had to give a statement yesterday to what we had seen.

The upshot of things is, the son and the mother who were arrested have stolen the guy who was assaulted life savings of just over £5000 and the argument was over that. The son who punched his father broke his eye socket and fractured his jaw. Oh the joys of lovely neighbours

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well next door's son has just Knocked his Dad out with a few punches. Why or what in God's name would make someone attack their own parent's

Past abuse, alcoholism, drugs,

Mental health issues.

Lots of reasons. "

.

It COULD be... He's just a cunt and his parents are cunts, there a cuntish family with cuntish behaviour..... Sometimes folk are just cunts for no apparent reason!

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

That's quite the denouement... I don;t think any of the speculation touched on this particular scenario.

As I said: assume nothing!

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire


"Used to live in a block of flats in central London.

We get two new neighbours, a young woman and her 6yr old kid. Fine fin, chat chat, proverbial cup of sugar.

One evening I hear this screaming out on the corridor and it's the girl. She's screaming, "Daddy's hitting mummy!"

And I go in the house and, no word of a lie, there's claret up the stairs and hallway. And he's got her pinned on the couch, beating seven shades out of her.

I shout, he sees me. I don;t know what to do but he makes the decision for me and just stops and runs out.

Ambulance, paramedics, hospital. She refused to press charges.

:/"

what year was that joe

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Used to live in a block of flats in central London.

We get two new neighbours, a young woman and her 6yr old kid. Fine fin, chat chat, proverbial cup of sugar.

One evening I hear this screaming out on the corridor and it's the girl. She's screaming, "Daddy's hitting mummy!"

And I go in the house and, no word of a lie, there's claret up the stairs and hallway. And he's got her pinned on the couch, beating seven shades out of her.

I shout, he sees me. I don;t know what to do but he makes the decision for me and just stops and runs out.

Ambulance, paramedics, hospital. She refused to press charges.

:/what year was that joe"

It was a 62 Rothschild... What a waste

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Used to live in a block of flats in central London.

We get two new neighbours, a young woman and her 6yr old kid. Fine fin, chat chat, proverbial cup of sugar.

One evening I hear this screaming out on the corridor and it's the girl. She's screaming, "Daddy's hitting mummy!"

And I go in the house and, no word of a lie, there's claret up the stairs and hallway. And he's got her pinned on the couch, beating seven shades out of her.

I shout, he sees me. I don;t know what to do but he makes the decision for me and just stops and runs out.

Ambulance, paramedics, hospital. She refused to press charges.

:/

what year was that joe"

I think it was 2006, now I think about it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Probably what started the argument, I'm always livid when somebody spills my claret

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Who knows could be any number of reasons some acceptable some not thats for the police to decide

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By *eavenscentitCouple  over a year ago

barnstaple


"Well next door's son has just Knocked his Dad out with a few punches. Why or what in God's name would make someone attack their own parent's

What if hes had enough of his dad knocking him or his mum about. No one knows what happens behind closed doors so best to stay out of it and not speculate"

I should have attacked my step father he was a pedophile and vile

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire


"Used to live in a block of flats in central London.

We get two new neighbours, a young woman and her 6yr old kid. Fine fin, chat chat, proverbial cup of sugar.

One evening I hear this screaming out on the corridor and it's the girl. She's screaming, "Daddy's hitting mummy!"

And I go in the house and, no word of a lie, there's claret up the stairs and hallway. And he's got her pinned on the couch, beating seven shades out of her.

I shout, he sees me. I don;t know what to do but he makes the decision for me and just stops and runs out.

Ambulance, paramedics, hospital. She refused to press charges.

:/

what year was that joe

I think it was 2006, now I think about it. "

im not sure the year the law changed. I accidently found out something only the other week. I was talking to my nurse about something and she was telling me about protection under the vulnerable adults protection anyway i casually said something about being 17 when it started and i wouldnt have been protected by the vulnerable adults but the vulnerable children as the vulnerable young children protection goes up to 18. It had never ctossed my mind that i had still been a child in the eyes of the law

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By *al2001Man  over a year ago

kildare

I'm going to give my boys extra cuddles today

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Just reading the first post,I got a mental image of a disaffected teenager,fired up with testosterone and angry young man syndrome,,,,a huge family row and the poor,frail elderly parents wondering where it all went wrong as tyheir angst ridden son goes on a rampage smashing things and finally assaulting his father.

I may have got it all wrong but,either way,it's a sad tale.

Hope the old guy is going to be OK and they can patch up their differences.

Families huh?

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By *aren1956TV/TS  over a year ago

Fakenham


"Maybe it was because Sunderland just lost and he took it out on his dad "

Typical barcode mentality

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By *herbert fountainWoman  over a year ago

Hanley


"Bump..

We had to give a statement yesterday to what we had seen.

The upshot of things is, the son and the mother who were arrested have stolen the guy who was assaulted life savings of just over £5000 and the argument was over that. The son who punched his father broke his eye socket and fractured his jaw. Oh the joys of lovely neighbours"

So the poor guy had his life savings stolen and then was assaulted too. That is awful

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Bump..

We had to give a statement yesterday to what we had seen.

The upshot of things is, the son and the mother who were arrested have stolen the guy who was assaulted life savings of just over £5000 and the argument was over that. The son who punched his father broke his eye socket and fractured his jaw. Oh the joys of lovely neighbours"

sadly not that uncommon for an offspring to act in that manner..

hopefully he will have some sort of wake up and cut away from them, not easy to do but in the long run better for his health and well being..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

it's like an Eastenders script meeting in here. .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Bump..

We had to give a statement yesterday to what we had seen.

The upshot of things is, the son and the mother who were arrested have stolen the guy who was assaulted life savings of just over £5000 and the argument was over that. The son who punched his father broke his eye socket and fractured his jaw. Oh the joys of lovely neighbours

sadly not that uncommon for an offspring to act in that manner.."

Err yes it is!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Bump..

We had to give a statement yesterday to what we had seen.

The upshot of things is, the son and the mother who were arrested have stolen the guy who was assaulted life savings of just over £5000 and the argument was over that. The son who punched his father broke his eye socket and fractured his jaw. Oh the joys of lovely neighbours

sadly not that uncommon for an offspring to act in that manner..

hopefully he will have some sort of wake up and cut away from them, not easy to do but in the long run better for his health and well being.."

The son is looking at a Jail term

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Bump..

We had to give a statement yesterday to what we had seen.

The upshot of things is, the son and the mother who were arrested have stolen the guy who was assaulted life savings of just over £5000 and the argument was over that. The son who punched his father broke his eye socket and fractured his jaw. Oh the joys of lovely neighbours

sadly not that uncommon for an offspring to act in that manner..

Err yes it is!! "

perhaps uncommon wasn't the right term but its not an isolated event in itself..

happens without violence being involved, especially when the parent or relative is suffering from early onset dementia / alzheimer's..

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

I hate to be the voice of sanity but we're back to speculating again.

There was an outcome involving possibly the mother and son conspiring to rob the father/husband.

No-one correctly guessed that.

Now you're all speculating about motive. This is exactly why we have a criminal justice system, as imperfect as it is.

I wouldn't trust you lot with a bucket and mop!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Bump..

We had to give a statement yesterday to what we had seen.

The upshot of things is, the son and the mother who were arrested have stolen the guy who was assaulted life savings of just over £5000 and the argument was over that. The son who punched his father broke his eye socket and fractured his jaw. Oh the joys of lovely neighbours

sadly not that uncommon for an offspring to act in that manner..

hopefully he will have some sort of wake up and cut away from them, not easy to do but in the long run better for his health and well being..The son is looking at a Jail term"

Good I am glad that the son is likely going to jail and so he jolly well should.

And to some of the posters on this thread, I hope you are ashamed of your posts indicating the poor old guy deserved it.

Turns out he had his savings stolen then gets beat up by a no good thug for complaining.

Hopefully the mother Will go to jail too.

Something to remember folks, domestic abuse works both ways, men get beaten up too not just women.

XXX

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Bump..

We had to give a statement yesterday to what we had seen.

The upshot of things is, the son and the mother who were arrested have stolen the guy who was assaulted life savings of just over £5000 and the argument was over that. The son who punched his father broke his eye socket and fractured his jaw. Oh the joys of lovely neighbours

sadly not that uncommon for an offspring to act in that manner..

Err yes it is!!

perhaps uncommon wasn't the right term but its not an isolated event in itself..

happens without violence being involved, especially when the parent or relative is suffering from early onset dementia / alzheimer's..

"

We can agree that some people don't have any absolute morals, yes.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"it's like an Eastenders script meeting in here. . "

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