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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Continuation of the topic change that occurred at the end of the Cat thread. I'll respond to the last few posts that I couldn't do previously due to the thread closing:

"An extremist makes for a good argument but it does not make what he says correct."

There is nothing extreme about not killing sentient life that wants to live.

"god you are a little charmer aren't you!!

if someone brings me a reasoned debate without resorting to insults and sarcastic jibes i will listen and be prepared to be educated.

i have every respect for your lifestyle choice but it seems too much to expect you to do the same"

Quite a big charmer, actually. You provided a sarcastic quip followed by an anecdote more holy than Jesus. What reasoned debate do you require? What do you want educating on? I would recommend watching Cowspiracy if you want to know more than what I can tell you on here in a fiddly text box. It discusses how much animal agriculture is destroying our environment (more of an impact than the entire transport industry), how it's destroying our health (actually that might be Forks over Knives) and how it affects the life of innocent animals who want to do nothing but live. Watch Earthlings on YouTube too, that's a belter. My brother and his girlfriend watched that and went vegan overnight.

Sorry if you were offended by my response but I've seen enough idiotic 'bacon lol' 'steak lol' to last a lifetime, thanks. It's not funny, it's not original. Come up with something new.

"It's funny how when people know they are wrong or in the minority they twist things twist facts to in some way validate their argument and when that fails to get personal. To compare eating meat to racism or slavery says more about you than it does me"

They are definitely comparable. 56 billion animals are killed a year for food and you don't think it's comparable? Ridiculously blinkered.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The lesson for us all here, is never get stuck in a lift with a vegan.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The lesson for us all here, is never get stuck in a lift with a vegan. "

This!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I've never missed an episode of star trek!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have no idea what your talking about

Do I need to read said cat thread to make sense of this one?

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By *asokittyWoman over a year ago

Nr Worksop

"I have no idea what your talking about

Do I need to read said cat thread to make sense of this one?"

It looked a bit scary there toward the end!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Meow

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Continuation of the topic change that occurred at the end of the Cat thread. I'll respond to the last few posts that I couldn't do previously due to the thread closing:

"An extremist makes for a good argument but it does not make what he says correct."

There is nothing extreme about not killing sentient life that wants to live.

"god you are a little charmer aren't you!!

if someone brings me a reasoned debate without resorting to insults and sarcastic jibes i will listen and be prepared to be educated.

i have every respect for your lifestyle choice but it seems too much to expect you to do the same"

Sorry if you were offended by my response but I've seen enough idiotic 'bacon lol' 'steak lol' to last a lifetime, thanks. It's not funny, it's not original. Come up with something new.

They are definitely comparable. 56 billion animals are killed a year for food and you don't think it's comparable? Ridiculously blinkered. "

it would all change overnight if it were legal to eat human

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The lesson for us all here, is never get stuck in a lift with a vegan.

This!

Fibrous carbs. Parp!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have been vegan for 1 year now. I wouldn't dream of going back to meat, dairy or eggs! I've never been so alive! We are so brain washed from day one but eating cows puss blended into cheese and eggs. No thank you! I do drink alcohol so that's my downfall but fuck no I will not be taking non of that animal shit in my body thank you very much! I'm not even doing it for longevity, I do it because my mind is so much healthier and my attitude to life!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I like meat to much ...couldnt give it up

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By *piritsonfabCouple over a year ago

Nottingham

Careful that the wine isn't cleared with fish guts;);)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Careful that the wine isn't cleared with fish guts;);)"

Trust me there is no danger of that lol

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"I have been vegan for 1 year now. I wouldn't dream of going back to meat, dairy or eggs! I've never been so alive! We are so brain washed from day one but eating cows puss blended into cheese and eggs. No thank you! I do drink alcohol so that's my downfall but fuck no I will not be taking non of that animal shit in my body thank you very much! I'm not even doing it for longevity, I do it because my mind is so much healthier and my attitude to life!"

cows puss??

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Find it gross that you literally put your own tastebuds before innocent animals, the environment, and your health ??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Pity it hasn't improved your self righteousness! And that's my biggest problem with vegan/vegetarian types, their holier than thou attitudes.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

If you look at statistics in the dairy industry, a certain amount of other materials are legally allowed in food. Such as blood and pus in cows milk. You drink that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

cows puss??"

When milk is being squeezed from a cow... I can assure you with 100 percent evidence... it ain't just milk coming out. Cows get sick. It's horrific when you see exactly what is pumped out.

A cat wouldn't suck in a dogs teet... nor would a calf suck on a a different species teet. Trust me, that milk ain't made for human consumption.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Pity it hasn't improved your self righteousness! And that's my biggest problem with vegan/vegetarian types, their holier than thou attitudes.

Can't say I'm self righteous? I am right... I know that... and so do you.. deep down. Ignore your taste buds and do your research buddy.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

100% agree. Cows milk is baby calf growth fluid. Are you a baby cow? No.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

cows puss??

When milk is being squeezed from a cow... I can assure you with 100 percent evidence... it ain't just milk coming out. Cows get sick. It's horrific when you see exactly what is pumped out.

A cat wouldn't suck in a dogs teet... nor would a calf suck on a a different species teet. Trust me, that milk ain't made for human consumption."

ok, i would like to read this evidence. i will agree that cows milk is not good for human digestion though.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

'Somatic cells are the white blood cells that are the defence against bacteria that invade the udder and can cause mastitis. Cows' milk can legally contain up to 400 million pus cells/litre. So one teaspoonful of milk can legally have two million pus cells!' www.whitelies.org

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

cows puss??

When milk is being squeezed from a cow... I can assure you with 100 percent evidence... it ain't just milk coming out. Cows get sick. It's horrific when you see exactly what is pumped out.

A cat wouldn't suck in a dogs teet... nor would a calf suck on a a different species teet. Trust me, that milk ain't made for human consumption.

ok, i would like to read this evidence. i will agree that cows milk is not good for human digestion though."

I'm don't preach I'm far from that however Google knives over forks.. it may just change your life.

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By *asokittyWoman over a year ago

Nr Worksop

Pity it hasn't improved your self righteousness! And that's my biggest problem with vegan/vegetarian types, their holier than thou attitudes.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"'Somatic cells are the white blood cells that are the defence against bacteria that invade the udder and can cause mastitis. Cows' milk can legally contain up to 400 million pus cells/litre. So one teaspoonful of milk can legally have two million pus cells!' www.whitelies.org "

Loving you at the minute!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

6 months ago I said I would never be vegan. Did my research, took me a while to cut everything out and here I am - healthier and happier than ever.

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By *uxom redCouple over a year ago

Shrewsbury

"Find it gross that you literally put your own tastebuds before innocent animals, the environment, and your health ?? "

That's your view and opinions.

Please don't try and enforce them on others.

I was vegan for about a very vegetarian for 5. Due to an illnesses I started eating meat occasionally.... And no I don't mean cock

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yaaaaaaaaaawn!

Go and preach somewhere else!

Can I ask - do you put strangers cocks in your mouth without a condom?

Is that safer than cows puss?

You're 20 years old - I guarantee give or take a few years you will have had a bacon sandwich!

Do what you need to do and stop judging other people!

cheers!

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By *asokittyWoman over a year ago

Nr Worksop

Genuine question. Why do vegans need to preach so much. Why not just eat your soy and let people get on with what they do.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Pity it hasn't improved your self righteousness! And that's my biggest problem with vegan/vegetarian types, their holier than thou attitudes.

Hey don't put us all in the same group

I really don't care what other people eat

I have my own reasons and beliefs for what I eat and I never push them in others

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If you look at statistics in the dairy industry, a certain amount of other materials are legally allowed in food. Such as blood and pus in cows milk. You drink that. "

Like the slugs in organic salad.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

If you don't like what we're talking about don't butt in. Also, I can guarantee you I will never eat meat again. Animals are friends! Not food

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"6 months ago I said I would never be vegan. Did my research, took me a while to cut everything out and here I am - healthier and happier than ever. "

It's so easy to be judgemental but you do find the more people that the more people go vegan the less they turn back. There is so any alternative. I swear by almond milk. I feel amazing like yourself and thousands of others.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Pity it hasn't improved your self righteousness! And that's my biggest problem with vegan/vegetarian types, their holier than thou attitudes.

Hey don't put us all in the same group

I really don't care what other people eat

I have my own reasons and beliefs for what I eat and I never push them in others "

U feel threatened as a minority? Speak ur mind...if u judge it best why not speak for it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If you don't like what we're talking about don't butt in. Also, I can guarantee you I will never eat meat again. Animals are friends! Not food

Stop eating my foods food.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Because animal agriculture is literally killing the planet. And I kind of love this planet. It's the only one we have, after all.

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By *asokittyWoman over a year ago

Nr Worksop

"If you don't like what we're talking about don't butt in. Also, I can guarantee you I will never eat meat again. Animals are friends! Not food

Pretty sure anyone can comment on a forum.

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By *asokittyWoman over a year ago

Nr Worksop

"Because animal agriculture is literally killing the planet. And I kind of love this planet. It's the only one we have, after all. "

Meh. We're all going to die anyway.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Wow I walked into the wrong post, just thought I'd add you do realise these animals that you are moaning are killed wouldn't even be alive if.we didn't eat meat. Farmers dont breed them for fun.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Thank you!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Loving you at the minute! "

Just as a matter of interest are you two vegan because you care about the animals or for health reasons?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

Pity it hasn't improved your self righteousness! And that's my biggest problem with vegan/vegetarian types, their holier than thou attitudes.

Hey don't put us all in the same group

I really don't care what other people eat

I have my own reasons and beliefs for what I eat and I never push them in others

U feel threatened as a minority? Speak ur mind...if u judge it best why not speak for it?

she never said she feels threatened

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Can I just say, on behalf of every non-sanctimonious, perfectly reasonable, couldn't care less what the hell you want to eat, no don't worry you don't need to make something special for me cos meat one day won't hurt vegans out there?

I'm sorry that others try to shove their views down your throat as if they are int he right or you need 'educating'. We're not all like that. I promise. Some of us will just quietly pick the parma ham out of our salad and say nothing instead of acting like some crazy ass, omnivore-despising Jehovah's Witness on the doorstep.

Actually, I think I'm doing the JW's a disservice.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Pity it hasn't improved your self righteousness! And that's my biggest problem with vegan/vegetarian types, their holier than thou attitudes.

Can't say I'm self righteous? I am right... I know that... and so do you.. deep down. Ignore your taste buds and do your research buddy."

Way to prove him wrong

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

This is my favourite argument: 'they wouldn't exist if we didn't eat them.' It would be better if they didn't exist in the first place. What is a life worth if all you're born for is have a bolt through your head so someone can eat you as a hamburger? Veganism is all about supply and demand. If less people demand meat, less animals with be bred to be slaughtered etc etc. It's basic economics/business.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If you don't like what we're talking about don't butt in. Also, I can guarantee you I will never eat meat again. Animals are friends! Not food

So do you take medication?

If you have a head ache do you pop a couple of paracetamol?

Are you in birth control?

If you got I'll would you go into hospital and take treatment?

Because all of the above is tested on your friends

Millions a year die in medical research

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Until your vegecated I don't think you have a reasonable argument. So many illnesses can be overcome by following a plant based diet. IT ISN'T VEGAN MORONS CHATTING SHIT IT'S ACTUAL SCIENTIFIC PROOF. END.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

We're vegan because we love animals, we care about the environment, and a plant based diet is very good for you

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By *asokittyWoman over a year ago

Nr Worksop

"Can I just say, on behalf of every non-sanctimonious, perfectly reasonable, couldn't care less what the hell you want to eat, no don't worry you don't need to make something special for me cos meat one day won't hurt vegans out there?

Actually, I think I'm doing the JW's a disservice."

I love you! :D

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Obviously you have to draw a line somewhere - I completely understand that. But I personally want to create as little suffering as I possibly can in the world! There's too much as it is.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Find it gross that you literally put your own tastebuds before innocent animals, the environment, and your health ?? "

I'm with you and am a vegan by default. I only eat animals that don't eat meat.

Especially lamb. So soft and tender, yummy.

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By *asokittyWoman over a year ago

Nr Worksop

"Until your vegecated I don't think you have a reasonable argument. So many illnesses can be overcome by following a plant based diet. IT ISN'T VEGAN MORONS CHATTING SHIT IT'S ACTUAL SCIENTIFIC PROOF. END."

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Wouldn't you want to leave the world a happier place for future generations?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"Wow I walked into the wrong post, just thought I'd add you do realise these animals that you are moaning are killed wouldn't even be alive if.we didn't eat meat. Farmers dont breed them for fun."

they wouldnt exist as they are now because we have manipulated their shape and size to improve their value for money for the farmer.

i am not blind to the way that humans have manipulated species to deliver greater yields of meat and milk and eggs etc i do concede that and perhaps that makes me a bad person because despite that i still choose to eat meat but i would still eat meat if it was raised as it was many years ago before science got involved. i like the taste of meat.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If you don't like what we're talking about don't butt in. Also, I can guarantee you I will never eat meat again. Animals are friends! Not food

In your opinion...

It's not everyone's opinion though

I know of 2 people who were vegan and went back to eating meat and guess what? It didn't kill them

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

It's the name of a film.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Not all attention is positive attention ( yawning icon thingy! )

Do what you need to do OP!

Why is it that Christians and vegans feel the need to judge!?

Shut it lol!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Killed the animals though.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Not judging anyone, just replying to questions and trying to answer them as best I can!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?"

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

i am sure you said up there that you werent one to preach lol

up until this post i was enjoying this exchange.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Obviously you have to draw a line somewhere - I completely understand that. But I personally want to create as little suffering as I possibly can in the world! There's too much as it is. "

Not at all

But I think it'd very hypocritical to preach to others about animals if you also take part in their suffering

If you use a medication that Millions of animals have suffered and died to obtain what rights have you got to tell others not to eat animals?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I like the taste of meat too! But after watching first hand the abuse animals go through just for human consumption I just couldn't justify it anymore

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By *asokittyWoman over a year ago

Nr Worksop

"It's the name of a film. "

See for me, me not eating meat isn't going to mame a difference. That bacon is still going to be on the shelf. Until there is a mass movement that babe isn't going to be killed for someone else and no one is going to eat meat again it's meaningless.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Read my message again.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein."

It makes you more popular with normal, level headed people.

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By *asokittyWoman over a year ago

Nr Worksop

"Not judging anyone, just replying to questions and trying to answer them as best I can! "

You're being pretty reasonable to be fair to you. It's the other mouthpiece that's being all judgey and shouty.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Pity it hasn't improved your self righteousness! And that's my biggest problem with vegan/vegetarian types, their holier than thou attitudes.

Plenty of supporting evidence for this in the last 20 or so posts. Almost ironic!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

As a vegan I personally save around 200-250 animals a year. One animal would be enough for me. Veganism is growing and we are definitely making a difference!

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By *asokittyWoman over a year ago

Nr Worksop

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein."

The pros. It tastes fantastic!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Couldn't care less.

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By *asokittyWoman over a year ago

Nr Worksop

"As a vegan I personally save around 200-250 animals a year. One animal would be enough for me. Veganism is growing and we are definitely making a difference!"

This is actually food for thought to be fair.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

The cons: you're killing innocent, sentient life.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

It makes you more popular with normal, level headed people. "

I bet you'll find in maybe 2020 the more level headed normal people as you say... will not be consuming animal products. The trend within main stream supermarkets is wild at the minute. The market and revenue gain is huge. By 2020 it will be soy meat for all.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

At least look into it! You'd be so surprised x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

The pros. It tastes fantastic!"

U eat because u can? I thought we are trying to move away from 'might is always right'

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Vegetarians had to start somewhere!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

BACON!!! There I've said it. Runs away quickly before a lettuce is launched at his head.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Find it gross that you literally put your own tastebuds before innocent animals, the environment, and your health ??

That's your view and opinions.

Please don't try and enforce them on others.

I was vegan for about a very vegetarian for 5. Due to an illnesses I started eating meat occasionally.... And no I don't mean cock

Views are forced on us EVERY TIME WE WATCH TV. Adverts all over the gaff, people eating rotting flesh next to us, big billboards everywhere, McDonalds etc. don't you dare say we force our opinions on you when you force the death of animals for the sensory pleasure of YOUR tastebuds.

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By *randMrs Spanish BrunetteCouple over a year ago

home sweet home

"The lesson for us all here, is never get stuck in a lift with a vegan. "

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

It makes you more popular with normal, level headed people.

really?? in 4 years there will be no meat industry? i find that extremely hard to believe

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By *asokittyWoman over a year ago

Nr Worksop

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

It makes you more popular with normal, level headed people.

Bollocks.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

How long did it take you to come up with that joke? I've definitely never heard it before... How clever you are.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Definitely less in the upcoming years

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The lesson for us all here, is never get stuck in a lift with a vegan.

I would just like to say my farts smell like roses and haven't eaten any animal products since I was 14 and that's a lot of years to be brewing a smelly fart

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Find it gross that you literally put your own tastebuds before innocent animals, the environment, and your health ??

That's your view and opinions.

Please don't try and enforce them on others.

I was vegan for about a very vegetarian for 5. Due to an illnesses I started eating meat occasionally.... And no I don't mean cock

some people can't face the truth

I was definetly the same, I'd scoff at a vegan 2 years prior lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

It makes you more popular with normal, level headed people.

3 years 3 months..... ah god bless the young!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Just to clarify she's the nice one, I'm the shouty prick.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Continuation of the topic change that occurred at the end of the Cat thread. I'll respond to the last few posts that I couldn't do previously due to the thread closing:

"An extremist makes for a good argument but it does not make what he says correct."

There is nothing extreme about not killing sentient life that wants to live.

"god you are a little charmer aren't you!!

if someone brings me a reasoned debate without resorting to insults and sarcastic jibes i will listen and be prepared to be educated.

i have every respect for your lifestyle choice but it seems too much to expect you to do the same"

Sorry if you were offended by my response but I've seen enough idiotic 'bacon lol' 'steak lol' to last a lifetime, thanks. It's not funny, it's not original. Come up with something new.

They are definitely comparable. 56 billion animals are killed a year for food and you don't think it's comparable? Ridiculously blinkered. "

Your motives are admirable.

Your arguement is correct, (Even though I know this, I'm a meat eater, and won't be changing)

Your method is shockingly poor, doing more damage to your arguement than good....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The cons: you're killing innocent, sentient life. "

Thats a pro surely

Pissing of vegans is another pro

Struggling to think of any cons

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The lesson for us all here, is never get stuck in a lift with a vegan.

I would just like to say my farts smell like roses and haven't eaten any animal products since I was 14 and that's a lot of years to be brewing a smelly fart

I knew someone had been at my rose garden.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

It makes you more popular with normal, level headed people.

Where is soya produced?

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By *asokittyWoman over a year ago

Nr Worksop

"The lesson for us all here, is never get stuck in a lift with a vegan.

I would just like to say my farts smell like roses and haven't eaten any animal products since I was 14 and that's a lot of years to be brewing a smelly fart

And me smell like Satan's breath and I'm a meat eater

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The cons: you're killing innocent, sentient life.

Thats a pro surely

Pissing of vegans is another pro

Struggling to think of any cons

Oh are we turning into a water sports thread now

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By *asokittyWoman over a year ago

Nr Worksop

"Just to clarify she's the nice one, I'm the shouty prick. "

Ah I meant the other fella

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Have you no compassion?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just to clarify she's the nice one, I'm the shouty prick. "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The cons: you're killing innocent, sentient life.

Thats a pro surely

Pissing of vegans is another pro

Struggling to think of any cons

Oh are we turning into a water sports thread now

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein."

There doesn't have to be any pros. I have made the choice to eat overwhelmingly vegan. For my own reasons, many of which have been outlined in this forum. I read the China Study cover to cover. I looked at the empirical results and decided on what I wanted for me. And my other half has joined me mostly.

But everyone has to make their own choices. None of us have the right to judge or demand others justify themselves to us. Or try to 'educate' them into the 'right' way of thinking.

There doesn't have to be any pros. It's just a choice. Like any others.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By *randMrs Spanish BrunetteCouple over a year ago

home sweet home

Actually, I think I'm doing the JW's a disservice."

It's like they heard us talking yesterday

You are the best my lovely

MrsSB

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Have you no compassion? "

Can you quote who you are replying to?

You are making your mad ramblings appear even madder

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

But everyone has to make their own choices. None of us have the right to judge or demand others justify themselves to us. Or try to 'educate' them into the 'right' way of thinking.

There doesn't have to be any pros. It's just a choice. Like any others. "

A choice over inferior animals? :-0

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Actually, I think I'm doing the JW's a disservice.

It's like they heard us talking yesterday

You are the best my lovely

MrsSB

And you m'dear

We roused them with the power of our minds!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Looks out the window" and thinks, 'jeez those meet eaters' haha I'm not actually that bad. Hence a glass of vino... or two... VEGAN FUCKING VINO... BUT I DON'T JUDGE IN THE SLIGHTEST before I turned Vegan I was just like you... wait for it... a selfish flesh eating blood sucking carnivore haha

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

But everyone has to make their own choices. None of us have the right to judge or demand others justify themselves to us. Or try to 'educate' them into the 'right' way of thinking.

There doesn't have to be any pros. It's just a choice. Like any others. "

Correct approach! Gold star! The "crazy high street preacher" is less effective...

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

""Looks out the window" and thinks, 'jeez those meet eaters' haha I'm not actually that bad. Hence a glass of vino... or two... VEGAN FUCKING VINO... BUT I DON'T JUDGE IN THE SLIGHTEST before I turned Vegan I was just like you... wait for it... a selfish flesh eating blood sucking carnivore haha "

preach brother!!

if this was a post about religion people would be shouting radicalisation before you could say bacon double cheseburger

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I have no idea what your talking about

Do I need to read said cat thread to make sense of this one?"

I wouldn't if I were you. Not if you like cats. I started, but some people's attitudes to them made for very unpleasant reading.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm really amused at the damage you guys are doing to your cause, I know your right in respect of damage to the environment the industry causes, and the benefits on the whole that would happen by everyone turning vegan, but really, the way you are acting is actually turning me against you, despite knowing you are correct....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Continuation of the topic change that occurred at the end of the Cat thread. I'll respond to the last few posts that I couldn't do previously due to the thread closing:

"An extremist makes for a good argument but it does not make what he says correct."

There is nothing extreme about not killing sentient life that wants to live.

"god you are a little charmer aren't you!!

if someone brings me a reasoned debate without resorting to insults and sarcastic jibes i will listen and be prepared to be educated.

i have every respect for your lifestyle choice but it seems too much to expect you to do the same"

Sorry if you were offended by my response but I've seen enough idiotic 'bacon lol' 'steak lol' to last a lifetime, thanks. It's not funny, it's not original. Come up with something new.

They are definitely comparable. 56 billion animals are killed a year for food and you don't think it's comparable? Ridiculously blinkered.

Your motives are admirable.

Your arguement is correct, (Even though I know this, I'm a meat eater, and won't be changing)

Your method is shockingly poor, doing more damage to your arguement than good...."

Yup. At this point there are only 2 possibilities:

1) They don't actually care about changing anyone's opinion and just wanted a fight to make themselves feel better

2) They are severely lacking in intelligence and or social skills

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

But everyone has to make their own choices. None of us have the right to judge or demand others justify themselves to us. Or try to 'educate' them into the 'right' way of thinking.

There doesn't have to be any pros. It's just a choice. Like any others.

A choice over inferior animals? :-0"

No. Just a choice.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

It makes you more popular with normal, level headed people.

Where is soya produced? "

Great point the shipping of soya beans around the world doesn't exactly have the best enviromental impact.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Pity it hasn't improved your self righteousness! And that's my biggest problem with vegan/vegetarian types, their holier than thou attitudes.

Plenty of supporting evidence for this in the last 20 or so posts. Almost ironic!! "

I thought I was imagining things during the day reading threads but I think people have been taking the ironic piss, love it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

preach brother!!

if this was a post about religion people would be shouting radicalisation before you could say bacon double cheseburger

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Have you no compassion? "

I shouted that at the gator that chased me along the bank in Florida once.

The fucker ignored me. Eat my sandwich I hurled at him though. It was cheese.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

But everyone has to make their own choices. None of us have the right to judge or demand others justify themselves to us. Or try to 'educate' them into the 'right' way of thinking.

There doesn't have to be any pros. It's just a choice. Like any others.

A choice over inferior animals? :-0

No. Just a choice. "

Lol explain. Killing and eating animals is not part if a human superiority complex? :-0

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Have you no compassion? "

Honestly you can shout till the cows come home (excuse the pun

) if people don't want to listern they won't

I did my fair share of anti vivisection campaiging when I was your age

You know what, nobody cares

Your best to just live your life as you choose and let others do the same

If people wanted to give up eating meat they will without the likes of us ramming it down their throats, that's why I don't anymore

I have a court order on my medical records saying if anything happens to me and I'm in no state to talk to and express my wishes I am not to be given medical care, I'm to be left to die, people think I'm absolutely nuts, not once has anybody ever told me that's a nice thing to do, they just ask why, and when I say I do not believe my life is worth the thousands of life's that are killed in medical research people laugh and me and ask me if I'm serious

Do I think nobody should take treatment?

No of course I dont, I do what's right for me, you simply can't not push your views on other people

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

But everyone has to make their own choices. None of us have the right to judge or demand others justify themselves to us. Or try to 'educate' them into the 'right' way of thinking.

There doesn't have to be any pros. It's just a choice. Like any others.

A choice over inferior animals? :-0

No. Just a choice.

Lol explain. Killing and eating animals is not part if a human superiority complex? :-0"

no it isnt, it is how life works. does a lion have a superiority complex over an antelope?

does a bat have a superiority complex over a moth?

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By *asokittyWoman over a year ago

Nr Worksop

"I have no idea what your talking about

Do I need to read said cat thread to make sense of this one?

I wouldn't if I were you. Not if you like cats. I started, but some people's attitudes to them made for very unpleasant reading."

I went nowhere near it save for the last few where people started talking about vegans and things.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

It makes you more popular with normal, level headed people.

Where is soya produced?

Great point the shipping of soya beans around the world doesn't exactly have the best enviromental impact."

Your very right however it wouldn't involve enslaving animals and inflicting a life of pain and misery.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

It makes you more popular with normal, level headed people.

Where is soya produced?

Great point the shipping of soya beans around the world doesn't exactly have the best enviromental impact."

Nope nor leveling rainforest to plant it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

But everyone has to make their own choices. None of us have the right to judge or demand others justify themselves to us. Or try to 'educate' them into the 'right' way of thinking.

There doesn't have to be any pros. It's just a choice. Like any others.

A choice over inferior animals? :-0

No. Just a choice.

Lol explain. Killing and eating animals is not part if a human superiority complex? :-0

no it isnt, it is how life works. does a lion have a superiority complex over an antelope?

does a bat have a superiority complex over a moth?"

I was saying on the other thread...us humans have taken over the world...by use of our brains. Now is it time to show mercy? :-0

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

But everyone has to make their own choices. None of us have the right to judge or demand others justify themselves to us. Or try to 'educate' them into the 'right' way of thinking.

There doesn't have to be any pros. It's just a choice. Like any others.

A choice over inferior animals? :-0

No. Just a choice.

Lol explain. Killing and eating animals is not part if a human superiority complex? :-0

no it isnt, it is how life works. does a lion have a superiority complex over an antelope?

does a bat have a superiority complex over a moth?"

A lion is a predictor... we as humans are herbivores.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

But everyone has to make their own choices. None of us have the right to judge or demand others justify themselves to us. Or try to 'educate' them into the 'right' way of thinking.

There doesn't have to be any pros. It's just a choice. Like any others.

A choice over inferior animals? :-0

No. Just a choice.

Lol explain. Killing and eating animals is not part if a human superiority complex? :-0"

No. It's just a choice. Everyone makes a choice. The smell of cut grass is actually a chemical released to warn other baldes of grass of danger. Grass screams when we cut it, and if that screams when we cut it then so does every plant when we harvest it. Did that stop me from enjoying my homemade teriyaki salad rice noodles? Did it heck as like.

It's a choice. Like any other. No one has the right to judge other people's choices.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

But everyone has to make their own choices. None of us have the right to judge or demand others justify themselves to us. Or try to 'educate' them into the 'right' way of thinking.

There doesn't have to be any pros. It's just a choice. Like any others.

A choice over inferior animals? :-0

No. Just a choice.

Lol explain. Killing and eating animals is not part if a human superiority complex? :-0

no it isnt, it is how life works. does a lion have a superiority complex over an antelope?

does a bat have a superiority complex over a moth?

A lion is a predictor... we as humans are herbivores."

Grammar on point tonight.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

But everyone has to make their own choices. None of us have the right to judge or demand others justify themselves to us. Or try to 'educate' them into the 'right' way of thinking.

There doesn't have to be any pros. It's just a choice. Like any others.

A choice over inferior animals? :-0

No. Just a choice.

Lol explain. Killing and eating animals is not part if a human superiority complex? :-0

no it isnt, it is how life works. does a lion have a superiority complex over an antelope?

does a bat have a superiority complex over a moth?

A lion is a predictor... we as humans are herbivores."

omnivores

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

But everyone has to make their own choices. None of us have the right to judge or demand others justify themselves to us. Or try to 'educate' them into the 'right' way of thinking.

There doesn't have to be any pros. It's just a choice. Like any others.

A choice over inferior animals? :-0

No. Just a choice.

Lol explain. Killing and eating animals is not part if a human superiority complex? :-0

no it isnt, it is how life works. does a lion have a superiority complex over an antelope?

does a bat have a superiority complex over a moth?

A lion is a predictor... we as humans are herbivores.

omnivores"

That is a hairy line.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A lion is a predictor... we as humans are herbivores."

No we are not we are omnivores

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

But everyone has to make their own choices. None of us have the right to judge or demand others justify themselves to us. Or try to 'educate' them into the 'right' way of thinking.

There doesn't have to be any pros. It's just a choice. Like any others.

A choice over inferior animals? :-0

No. Just a choice.

Lol explain. Killing and eating animals is not part if a human superiority complex? :-0

no it isnt, it is how life works. does a lion have a superiority complex over an antelope?

does a bat have a superiority complex over a moth?

A lion is a predictor... we as humans are herbivores.

omnivores

That is a hairy line. "

how so? we are able to get energy and nutrients from both plants and meats....if we didnt one of us would not be living.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

omnivores

That is a hairy line. "

No it's not we are omnivores

Look at our teeth we have evolved to eat meat and vegetation

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

But everyone has to make their own choices. None of us have the right to judge or demand others justify themselves to us. Or try to 'educate' them into the 'right' way of thinking.

There doesn't have to be any pros. It's just a choice. Like any others.

A choice over inferior animals? :-0

No. Just a choice.

Lol explain. Killing and eating animals is not part if a human superiority complex? :-0

no it isnt, it is how life works. does a lion have a superiority complex over an antelope?

does a bat have a superiority complex over a moth?

A lion is a predictor... we as humans are herbivores."

You don't know of any lions who can help me with my Super 6 do you?

Ps- humans are preditors and naturally meat eaters.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

But everyone has to make their own choices. None of us have the right to judge or demand others justify themselves to us. Or try to 'educate' them into the 'right' way of thinking.

There doesn't have to be any pros. It's just a choice. Like any others.

A choice over inferior animals? :-0

No. Just a choice.

Lol explain. Killing and eating animals is not part if a human superiority complex? :-0

It's a choice. Like any other. No one has the right to judge other people's choices. "

Individuality in choice is good to coordinate humans...where does that leave animals? We kill animals at a whim. Fact.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A lion is a predictor... we as humans are herbivores."

Damn I need to get a lion to help me with my footy accas

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

But everyone has to make their own choices. None of us have the right to judge or demand others justify themselves to us. Or try to 'educate' them into the 'right' way of thinking.

There doesn't have to be any pros. It's just a choice. Like any others.

A choice over inferior animals? :-0

No. Just a choice.

Lol explain. Killing and eating animals is not part if a human superiority complex? :-0

It's a choice. Like any other. No one has the right to judge other people's choices. "

Plants "screaming" when cut, didn't L. Ron Hubbarb, founder of Scientology, invent a machine he claimed could detect those plant "screams"?

And: Human are actually omnivores.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

But everyone has to make their own choices. None of us have the right to judge or demand others justify themselves to us. Or try to 'educate' them into the 'right' way of thinking.

There doesn't have to be any pros. It's just a choice. Like any others.

A choice over inferior animals? :-0

No. Just a choice.

Lol explain. Killing and eating animals is not part if a human superiority complex? :-0

no it isnt, it is how life works. does a lion have a superiority complex over an antelope?

does a bat have a superiority complex over a moth?

A lion is a predictor... we as humans are herbivores.

You don't know of any lions who can help me with my Super 6 do you?

Ps- humans are preditors and naturally meat eaters."

Shit you beat me to it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

WELL.... THIS ESCALATED FAST! PERHAPS I'M OUT SPOKEN AND OUT OF LINE SOMETIMES... I GET THAT I DO. I'm just passionate about the environment and I whole heartedly do believe we all should be following a plant based diet. I accept my 2 year prior self and I was in your shoes. All I suggest is please look at swapping a few of your products and if you get time watch a few vids, try something new you may suprise yourself! Coming from a sloth, I don't recognise myself, my enegery or my zest for life! Complete different person. You are what you eat!

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By *asokittyWoman over a year ago

Nr Worksop

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

But everyone has to make their own choices. None of us have the right to judge or demand others justify themselves to us. Or try to 'educate' them into the 'right' way of thinking.

There doesn't have to be any pros. It's just a choice. Like any others.

A choice over inferior animals? :-0

No. Just a choice.

Lol explain. Killing and eating animals is not part if a human superiority complex? :-0

It's a choice. Like any other. No one has the right to judge other people's choices.

Individuality in choice is good to coordinate humans...where does that leave animals? We kill animals at a whim. Fact."

Some kill humans at a whim.

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By *asokittyWoman over a year ago

Nr Worksop

"WELL.... THIS ESCALATED FAST! PERHAPS I'M OUT SPOKEN AND OUT OF LINE SOMETIMES... I GET THAT I DO. I'm just passionate about the environment and I whole heartedly do believe we all should be following a plant based diet. I accept my 2 year prior self and I was in your shoes. All I suggest is please look at swapping a few of your products and if you get time watch a few vids, try something new you may suprise yourself! Coming from a sloth, I don't recognise myself, my enegery or my zest for life! Complete different person. You are what you eat!"

Nope

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By *piritsonfabCouple over a year ago

Nottingham

The people who are going to be "put off" going vegan due to others'attitudes were never going to change anyway.

For others, from tiny acorns due mighty oaks grow. If just one person looks at the videos and evidence out there and changes their minds, well that's a good thing and worth the discussion.

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By *piritsonfabCouple over a year ago

Nottingham

The people who are going to be "put off" going vegan due to others'attitudes were never going to change anyway.

For others, from tiny acorns due mighty oaks grow. If just one person looks at the videos and evidence out there and changes their minds, well that's a good thing and worth the discussion.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

But everyone has to make their own choices. None of us have the right to judge or demand others justify themselves to us. Or try to 'educate' them into the 'right' way of thinking.

There doesn't have to be any pros. It's just a choice. Like any others.

A choice over inferior animals? :-0

No. Just a choice.

Lol explain. Killing and eating animals is not part if a human superiority complex? :-0

It's a choice. Like any other. No one has the right to judge other people's choices.

Individuality in choice is good to coordinate humans...where does that leave animals? We kill animals at a whim. Fact.

Some kill humans at a whim. "

We have indeed taken over the world. Hurrah? Don't think so. We are selfish still to a great extent.

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By *uxom redCouple over a year ago

Shrewsbury

Sorry but it didn't help me when I had cancer. Plus shouting at ppl is just rude you can get a point across without being rude or judgement. Ok you may feel others on the thread are being but it doesn't make it right

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

But everyone has to make their own choices. None of us have the right to judge or demand others justify themselves to us. Or try to 'educate' them into the 'right' way of thinking.

There doesn't have to be any pros. It's just a choice. Like any others.

A choice over inferior animals? :-0

No. Just a choice.

Lol explain. Killing and eating animals is not part if a human superiority complex? :-0

It's a choice. Like any other. No one has the right to judge other people's choices.

Individuality in choice is good to coordinate humans...where does that leave animals? We kill animals at a whim. Fact.

Some kill humans at a whim.

We have indeed taken over the world. Hurrah? Don't think so. We are selfish still to a great extent."

As humans beings as a whole I agree

We take what we want

But as individuals there are some great humans amongst us trying to right our wrongs

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"WELL.... THIS ESCALATED FAST! PERHAPS I'M OUT SPOKEN AND OUT OF LINE SOMETIMES... I GET THAT I DO. I'm just passionate"

Yeah ISIS are pretty passionate about their cause too

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"WELL.... THIS ESCALATED FAST! PERHAPS I'M OUT SPOKEN AND OUT OF LINE SOMETIMES... I GET THAT I DO. I'm just passionate

Yeah ISIS are pretty passionate about their cause too

Oh come on now. This is a forum... this is fab... let's not compare veganism and isis as a comparison. I know your joking. Or so I hope.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Continuation of the topic change that occurred at the end of the Cat thread. I'll respond to the last few posts that I couldn't do previously due to the thread closing:

"An extremist makes for a good argument but it does not make what he says correct."

There is nothing extreme about not killing sentient life that wants to live.

"god you are a little charmer aren't you!!

if someone brings me a reasoned debate without resorting to insults and sarcastic jibes i will listen and be prepared to be educated.

i have every respect for your lifestyle choice but it seems too much to expect you to do the same"

Sorry if you were offended by my response but I've seen enough idiotic 'bacon lol' 'steak lol' to last a lifetime, thanks. It's not funny, it's not original. Come up with something new.

They are definitely comparable. 56 billion animals are killed a year for food and you don't think it's comparable? Ridiculously blinkered.

Your motives are admirable.

Your arguement is correct, (Even though I know this, I'm a meat eater, and won't be changing)

Your method is shockingly poor, doing more damage to your arguement than good...."

I always enjoy this. It's one of my faves. A meat eater who says they'll never change but criticises how I do things. You'll have to tell that to all the people who have gone veggie/vegan because of me. There's a growing list. Why only two days ago my brother and his girlfriend went vegan because of what I told them. But hey, my method is shockingly poor

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

But everyone has to make their own choices. None of us have the right to judge or demand others justify themselves to us. Or try to 'educate' them into the 'right' way of thinking.

There doesn't have to be any pros. It's just a choice. Like any others.

A choice over inferior animals? :-0

No. Just a choice.

Lol explain. Killing and eating animals is not part if a human superiority complex? :-0

no it isnt, it is how life works. does a lion have a superiority complex over an antelope?

does a bat have a superiority complex over a moth?

A lion is a predictor... we as humans are omnivores."

Quite so.

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By *ath_Neil_bifunCouple over a year ago

near cardiff

My wife is a vegan.i joke that I'm semi vegan as she does the majority of the cooking in the house when we eat together in the evening..I understand her point of view.she is not comfortable causing suffering,and all life is precious.i tried it for about six months.it takes a lot of discipline to give up dairy,in particular milk chocolate.and bacon.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Continuation of the topic change that occurred at the end of the Cat thread. I'll respond to the last few posts that I couldn't do previously due to the thread closing:

"An extremist makes for a good argument but it does not make what he says correct."

There is nothing extreme about not killing sentient life that wants to live.

"god you are a little charmer aren't you!!

if someone brings me a reasoned debate without resorting to insults and sarcastic jibes i will listen and be prepared to be educated.

i have every respect for your lifestyle choice but it seems too much to expect you to do the same"

Sorry if you were offended by my response but I've seen enough idiotic 'bacon lol' 'steak lol' to last a lifetime, thanks. It's not funny, it's not original. Come up with something new.

They are definitely comparable. 56 billion animals are killed a year for food and you don't think it's comparable? Ridiculously blinkered.

Your motives are admirable.

Your arguement is correct, (Even though I know this, I'm a meat eater, and won't be changing)

Your method is shockingly poor, doing more damage to your arguement than good....

It's infectious, obviously not myself tonight (vino) but get your wordings and phrases right and even if 1 person person considers plant based alternatives... well that'd another 1!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Everyone knows everything

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"WELL.... THIS ESCALATED FAST! PERHAPS I'M OUT SPOKEN AND OUT OF LINE SOMETIMES... I GET THAT I DO. I'm just passionate

Yeah ISIS are pretty passionate about their cause too

Oh come on now. This is a forum... this is fab... let's not compare veganism and isis as a comparison. I know your joking. Or so I hope. "

No I'm not comparing vegans to ISIS. I'm comparing your attitude to the attitude or any other fanatic. Take a look at yourself on this thread! It doesn't matter if you're arguing for religion, against religion, for animal rights or against abortion, it's the same stinking extremism.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Humans are not herbivores we are omnivores. Or opportunity feeders. We are capable of digesting both animal proteins and vegetation. Our closest relation in the primate family is the chimpanzee. They eat meat. They hunt and kill including other primates.

So for humans as a species, eating animals is natural. The farming methos are not ideal. Shipping fruits and veg half way round the world isn't. Soya milk, Quorn etc are not natural products.

Drinking milk is common throughout the world, and has been for thousands of yrs, mainly goat milk. Again it's the modern way of farming it for mass production that isn't natural. The main issue affecting the environment is over pupulation. Of humans.

Vegans trying to ram their way of life down folks throats are really not doing their cause any good. Lady in the supermarket recently terrorised my daughter, got hold of her by the arm and told her that the cows try to escape but the farmer catches them, slits their throats and hacks lumps off to put that steak in the trolley. Nut jobs don't change the world they alienate themselves and what they believe in.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Vegecated. Oh god. Is that in your self righteous manual?

Do you know the pros and cons of eating meat, dairy or eggs? Please enlighten me on the pros? Don't for heavens sake say protein.

But everyone has to make their own choices. None of us have the right to judge or demand others justify themselves to us. Or try to 'educate' them into the 'right' way of thinking.

There doesn't have to be any pros. It's just a choice. Like any others.

A choice over inferior animals? :-0

No. Just a choice.

Lol explain. Killing and eating animals is not part if a human superiority complex? :-0

It's a choice. Like any other. No one has the right to judge other people's choices. "

Of course we have the right. I'm doing it right now. I judge people on a daily basis for having the audacity to think their tastebuds are more important than sentient life and the planet we live on. But I also understand that a year ago I was in their shoes too, so I do try and sympathise, but it is hard

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"WELL.... THIS ESCALATED FAST! PERHAPS I'M OUT SPOKEN AND OUT OF LINE SOMETIMES... I GET THAT I DO. I'm just passionate

Yeah ISIS are pretty passionate about their cause too

Oh come on now. This is a forum... this is fab... let's not compare veganism and isis as a comparison. I know your joking. Or so I hope.

OK dear.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Sometimes,when I see meat on the bone,my stomach turns. Eyes on my plate I definitely can't do.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"WELL.... THIS ESCALATED FAST! PERHAPS I'M OUT SPOKEN AND OUT OF LINE SOMETIMES... I GET THAT I DO. I'm just passionate

Yeah ISIS are pretty passionate about their cause too

Oh come on now. This is a forum... this is fab... let's not compare veganism and isis as a comparison. I know your joking. Or so I hope.

If you can't see the difference between extremism of trying to kill people and 'extremism' of trying to stop people killing animals and wrecking the planet then you are lost, I'm sorry but you cannot be an adult and think like this. It's ridiculous.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Wtf happened in here???

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Continuation of the topic change that occurred at the end of the Cat thread. I'll respond to the last few posts that I couldn't do previously due to the thread closing:

"An extremist makes for a good argument but it does not make what he says correct."

There is nothing extreme about not killing sentient life that wants to live.

"god you are a little charmer aren't you!!

if someone brings me a reasoned debate without resorting to insults and sarcastic jibes i will listen and be prepared to be educated.

i have every respect for your lifestyle choice but it seems too much to expect you to do the same"

Sorry if you were offended by my response but I've seen enough idiotic 'bacon lol' 'steak lol' to last a lifetime, thanks. It's not funny, it's not original. Come up with something new.

They are definitely comparable. 56 billion animals are killed a year for food and you don't think it's comparable? Ridiculously blinkered.

Your motives are admirable.

Your arguement is correct, (Even though I know this, I'm a meat eater, and won't be changing)

Your method is shockingly poor, doing more damage to your arguement than good....

I'd happily argue your method has turned more people off you're cause than onto it, this thread for one as evidence.

I'm also quite within my right criticise how you do things, when your method has not only failed to impact upon me, but has actively pushed me further away! Well done you! Aren't you the champion of your cause??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There doesn't have to be any pros. It's just a choice. Like any others.

A choice over inferior animals? :-0

No. Just a choice.

Lol explain. Killing and eating animals is not part if a human superiority complex? :-0

It's a choice. Like any other. No one has the right to judge other people's choices.

Plants "screaming" when cut, didn't L. Ron Hubbarb, founder of Scientology, invent a machine he claimed could detect those plant "screams"?

And: Human are actually omnivores."

*laughs* No, they release volatile organic compounds on trauma called GLVs, which have an identifiable scent that we pick up as that 'fresh mown grass' smell. The grass around that hasn't been damaged yet also release the same compounds once they have come into contact with them, much as the screams of those being attacked somewhere in an enclosed space will spread to others even if they are not in immediate danger. We can measure the release of those compounds.

Trying to discredit me by bringing scientology into it just puts yourself down.

My point was merely that we all make choices. Mine is to be mostly vegan. I expect no one to judge me for that. In turn I won't judge them for theirs. I would love everyone to join me in the choices I make but I am not going to make them feel bad for not doing so. Many aren't even aware that I am vegan.

So again, to all the other vegans on this thread? Please stop. You're turning people away. A couple of years ago I was a meat eater. I was not turned by people screaming at me, attempting to make me feel small or stupid or uncaring. I asked someone who was looking fantastic and glowing, after having been very bloated and puffy and lank for years what their secret was. He quietly pointed me in the direction of The China Study. Said it might not be for everyone but it had for him. I read it and figured I'd give it a go. I've taken the same approach and three others have done the same from me. Quiet, non-judgemental approach works better than this.

This shames me.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Humans are not herbivores we are omnivores. Or opportunity feeders. We are capable of digesting both animal proteins and vegetation. Our closest relation in the primate family is the chimpanzee. They eat meat. They hunt and kill including other primates.

So for humans as a species, eating animals is natural. The farming methos are not ideal. Shipping fruits and veg half way round the world isn't. Soya milk, Quorn etc are not natural products.

We aren't ramming nothing down anyone's throats... simply.. setting an example and pathing the way for the future. We aren't, "nut jobs' just passionate about the environment and more importantly health. If a lady grabbed your daughter she was obviously mentally unwell.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Wtf happened in here???

Carnage

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Continuation of the topic change that occurred at the end of the Cat thread. I'll respond to the last few posts that I couldn't do previously due to the thread closing:

"An extremist makes for a good argument but it does not make what he says correct."

There is nothing extreme about not killing sentient life that wants to live.

"god you are a little charmer aren't you!!

if someone brings me a reasoned debate without resorting to insults and sarcastic jibes i will listen and be prepared to be educated.

i have every respect for your lifestyle choice but it seems too much to expect you to do the same"

Sorry if you were offended by my response but I've seen enough idiotic 'bacon lol' 'steak lol' to last a lifetime, thanks. It's not funny, it's not original. Come up with something new.

They are definitely comparable. 56 billion animals are killed a year for food and you don't think it's comparable? Ridiculously blinkered.

Your motives are admirable.

Your arguement is correct, (Even though I know this, I'm a meat eater, and won't be changing)

Your method is shockingly poor, doing more damage to your arguement than good....

I'd happily argue your method has turned more people off you're cause than onto it, this thread for one as evidence.

You were never even going to consider it anyway so please don't think that your faux gloating is doing anything for you. I have affected so many people already and helped them transition to a cruelty-free lifestyle. Your words are wind and you are clearly a very ignorant person.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Continuation of the topic change that occurred at the end of the Cat thread. I'll respond to the last few posts that I couldn't do previously due to the thread closing:

"An extremist makes for a good argument but it does not make what he says correct."

There is nothing extreme about not killing sentient life that wants to live.

"god you are a little charmer aren't you!!

if someone brings me a reasoned debate without resorting to insults and sarcastic jibes i will listen and be prepared to be educated.

i have every respect for your lifestyle choice but it seems too much to expect you to do the same"

Sorry if you were offended by my response but I've seen enough idiotic 'bacon lol' 'steak lol' to last a lifetime, thanks. It's not funny, it's not original. Come up with something new.

They are definitely comparable. 56 billion animals are killed a year for food and you don't think it's comparable? Ridiculously blinkered.

Your motives are admirable.

Your arguement is correct, (Even though I know this, I'm a meat eater, and won't be changing)

Your method is shockingly poor, doing more damage to your arguement than good....

I'd happily argue your method has turned more people off you're cause than onto it, this thread for one as evidence.

I can understand the passion for a cause but when you start trying to force people to think like you it's a slippery slope

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"6 months ago I said I would never be vegan. Did my research, took me a while to cut everything out and here I am - healthier and happier than ever.

Almonds have mammary glands now?

OK, I'm being facetious but honestly, good for you but let others find their own way.

Is it possible to get soy that hasn't been affected by GM and heavy pesticides?

Argentina is experiencing some interesting crop failures due to a loss of pollinators and their reduction in meat production.

For every Vegan YouTube there is there will be an equally compelling one making the opposite case. So, yes, read widely and wisely. Learn as much as possible and make your own decisions. But please let others makes their too without the barbs.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So for humans as a species, eating animals is natural. The farming methos are not ideal. Shipping fruits and veg half way round the world isn't. Soya milk, Quorn etc are not natural products.

We aren't ramming nothing down anyone's throats... "

The problem here is that evidence is in black and white writing above.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Wtf happened in here???

Carnage"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So for humans as a species, eating animals is natural. The farming methos are not ideal. Shipping fruits and veg half way round the world isn't. Soya milk, Quorn etc are not natural products.

If anyone did that to one of my children they'd find themself in the fridge with the meat.

You are spot on though.

I will add if vegans want an unnatural diet that us their choice. I choose to try not to harm defenceless plants and vegatables and wouldn't preach to a vegan about their barbaric ways.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Infact, I've happened to have turned a few vegetarians into meat eaters, without the use of a self righteous attitude, ridiculing or extremism, so I may be your arch nemisis

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"There doesn't have to be any pros. It's just a choice. Like any others.

A choice over inferior animals? :-0

No. Just a choice.

Lol explain. Killing and eating animals is not part if a human superiority complex? :-0

It's a choice. Like any other. No one has the right to judge other people's choices.

Plants "screaming" when cut, didn't L. Ron Hubbarb, founder of Scientology, invent a machine he claimed could detect those plant "screams"?

And: Human are actually omnivores.

Trying to discredit me by bringing scientology into it just puts yourself down.

This shames me.

In YOUR opinion it works better than this. You won't find many vegans like you at all, and yet the movement is growing at a frightening pace. Everyone does their activism differently, don't think that just because someone does it differently it's any less affective - my 'numbers' prove this. Personally I was 'shamed' into veganism by videos online and I'm glad I was. There is no one size fits all solution, you're being very narrow minded which is a trait i really don't often find goes hand in hand with being a vegan.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Continuation of the topic change that occurred at the end of the Cat thread. I'll respond to the last few posts that I couldn't do previously due to the thread closing:

"An extremist makes for a good argument but it does not make what he says correct."

There is nothing extreme about not killing sentient life that wants to live.

"god you are a little charmer aren't you!!

if someone brings me a reasoned debate without resorting to insults and sarcastic jibes i will listen and be prepared to be educated.

i have every respect for your lifestyle choice but it seems too much to expect you to do the same"

Sorry if you were offended by my response but I've seen enough idiotic 'bacon lol' 'steak lol' to last a lifetime, thanks. It's not funny, it's not original. Come up with something new.

They are definitely comparable. 56 billion animals are killed a year for food and you don't think it's comparable? Ridiculously blinkered.

Your motives are admirable.

Your arguement is correct, (Even though I know this, I'm a meat eater, and won't be changing)

Your method is shockingly poor, doing more damage to your arguement than good....

I'd happily argue your method has turned more people off you're cause than onto it, this thread for one as evidence.

When extremism doesn't see itself for what it is. Actually crying with laughter now

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

So for humans as a species, eating animals is natural. The farming methos are not ideal. Shipping fruits and veg half way round the world isn't. Soya milk, Quorn etc are not natural products.

If anyone did that to one of my children they'd find themself in the fridge with the meat.

You are spot on though.

I will add if vegans want an unnatural diet that us their choice. I choose to try not to harm defenceless plants and vegatables and wouldn't preach to a vegan about their barbaric ways."

Your posts in this thread have been dirt. What do you think feeds the meat you eat? Plants and vegetables.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Continuation of the topic change that occurred at the end of the Cat thread. I'll respond to the last few posts that I couldn't do previously due to the thread closing:

"An extremist makes for a good argument but it does not make what he says correct."

There is nothing extreme about not killing sentient life that wants to live.

"god you are a little charmer aren't you!!

if someone brings me a reasoned debate without resorting to insults and sarcastic jibes i will listen and be prepared to be educated.

i have every respect for your lifestyle choice but it seems too much to expect you to do the same"

Sorry if you were offended by my response but I've seen enough idiotic 'bacon lol' 'steak lol' to last a lifetime, thanks. It's not funny, it's not original. Come up with something new.

They are definitely comparable. 56 billion animals are killed a year for food and you don't think it's comparable? Ridiculously blinkered.

Your motives are admirable.

Your arguement is correct, (Even though I know this, I'm a meat eater, and won't be changing)

Your method is shockingly poor, doing more damage to your arguement than good....

I'd happily argue your method has turned more people off you're cause than onto it, this thread for one as evidence.

When extremism doesn't see itself for what it is. Actually crying with laughter now

There's nothing extreme with not killing things.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So for humans as a species, eating animals is natural. The farming methos are not ideal. Shipping fruits and veg half way round the world isn't. Soya milk, Quorn etc are not natural products.

If anyone did that to one of my children they'd find themself in the fridge with the meat.

You are spot on though.

I will add if vegans want an unnatural diet that us their choice. I choose to try not to harm defenceless plants and vegatables and wouldn't preach to a vegan about their barbaric ways."

I don't think you can really claim a vegan diet is not natural,how much more natural can it get?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So for humans as a species, eating animals is natural. The farming methos are not ideal. Shipping fruits and veg half way round the world isn't. Soya milk, Quorn etc are not natural products.

If anyone did that to one of my children they'd find themself in the fridge with the meat.

You are spot on though.

I will add if vegans want an unnatural diet that us their choice. I choose to try not to harm defenceless plants and vegatables and wouldn't preach to a vegan about their barbaric ways."

Unnatural diet...

I'll remember that tomorrow with my bananas, 2 apples and melon for breakfast lmfao!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Continuation of the topic change that occurred at the end of the Cat thread. I'll respond to the last few posts that I couldn't do previously due to the thread closing:

"An extremist makes for a good argument but it does not make what he says correct."

There is nothing extreme about not killing sentient life that wants to live.

"god you are a little charmer aren't you!!

if someone brings me a reasoned debate without resorting to insults and sarcastic jibes i will listen and be prepared to be educated.

i have every respect for your lifestyle choice but it seems too much to expect you to do the same"

Sorry if you were offended by my response but I've seen enough idiotic 'bacon lol' 'steak lol' to last a lifetime, thanks. It's not funny, it's not original. Come up with something new.

They are definitely comparable. 56 billion animals are killed a year for food and you don't think it's comparable? Ridiculously blinkered.

Your motives are admirable.

Your arguement is correct, (Even though I know this, I'm a meat eater, and won't be changing)

Your method is shockingly poor, doing more damage to your arguement than good....

I'd happily argue your method has turned more people off you're cause than onto it, this thread for one as evidence.

I can understand the passion for a cause but when you start trying to force people to think like you it's a slippery slope"

Who is forcing anyone to do anything? We're writing words on a screen dude..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So for humans as a species, eating animals is natural. The farming methos are not ideal. Shipping fruits and veg half way round the world isn't. Soya milk, Quorn etc are not natural products.

If anyone did that to one of my children they'd find themself in the fridge with the meat.

You are spot on though.

I will add if vegans want an unnatural diet that us their choice. I choose to try not to harm defenceless plants and vegatables and wouldn't preach to a vegan about their barbaric ways.

Your posts in this thread have been dirt. What do you think feeds the meat you eat? Plants and vegetables. "

Thats what a true vegan would eat, dirt. A plant is a living thing and you are taking a life by eating one. Plants have feelings you know

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"In YOUR opinion it works better than this. You won't find many vegans like you at all, and yet the movement is growing at a frightening pace. Everyone does their activism differently, don't think that just because someone does it differently it's any less affective - my 'numbers' prove this. Personally I was 'shamed' into veganism by videos online and I'm glad I was. There is no one size fits all solution, you're being very narrow minded which is a trait i really don't often find goes hand in hand with being a vegan. "

*sighs* This. This is the issue, right here.

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Gaslighting isn't going to help anyone.

Fat shaming is wrong. Trying to force someone to lose weight by making them feel bad about themselves. That is wrong.

This is no different. I don't have an activism. Because activists are extremists who believe that their way is the way and the truth and the light and there is nothing that should not be said or done in order to further their cause. That's not right.

Positivity is the key. Create videos. Write a book. Host a blog. Set up a lobby group to effect change within government. Please don't go on a swingers forum and attempt to make people feel awful about their life choices. We have free will. We don't have the right to judge others in their choices.

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