I think we should have a general concensus on whether or not humans should eat meat ... It doesn't need to get horrible, just some people struggle to get across a point without becoming personal or aggressive ....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think we should have a general concensus on whether or not humans should eat meat ... It doesn't need to get horrible, just some people struggle to get across a point without becoming personal or aggressive ...."

I'm a vegan..but hey it's a free world and vegans are a minority

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I'm a vegan..but hey it's a free world and vegans are a minority "

You sir I respect

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman over a year ago

stourbridge area

Whos run over a cat...... omg .... thats awfull

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Ah, I haven't been on those threads (I'm allergic to cats). I thought this was eat, shoots and leaves. Although would nibbling on a cock/vagina be vegan?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

i think you are trying to herd cats (get the link!!) trying to get a consensus on that subject.

The fact that humans can easily get their required energy and nutritional needs from animal and plant based foods shows that humans have the opportunity to choose a diet that suits them based on a whole host of reasons; ethics, culture, morals etc.

The fact that some are unable to respect someone's preferences for said dietary choices (who would think we would argue about preferences on here, its unheard of!!

) is one of the downsides of being human i guess.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Ah, I haven't been on those threads (I'm allergic to cats). I thought this was eat, shoots and leaves. Although would nibbling on a cock/vagina be vegan?

If you were nibbling on my cock you could be whatever you wanted to be

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By *unandbuckCouple over a year ago

Sheffield

If god wanted us to be vegan , he (she?) wouldn't have made animals out of meat

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

i think you are trying to herd cats (get the link!!) trying to get a consensus on that subject.

The fact that some are unable to respect someone's preferences for said dietary choices (who would think we would argue about preferences on here, its unheard of!!

) is one of the downsides of being human i guess."

I hear what you are saying but I don't necessarily believe it is all that easy if at all possible to get all the vitamins and nutrients your body requires to thrive (not survive) from an unbalanced diet of either herb or Carn I believe we need a healthy amount of both as I believe is the General concensus..

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"If god wanted us to be vegan , he (she?) wouldn't have made animals out of meat

And taste good right??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Whos run over a cat...... omg .... thats awfull

Has knitter being out driving again!?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I eat certain types of meat because I like the taste and I'm not very fond (read as actively dislike) all veg due, due to think to my mum pressure cooking all veg to a gray pulp.

One of my friends is a Vegan and has been since she was 16, through her choice due to her personal beliefs on not eating meat.

We both have the occasional joke attempt at trying to get the other to eat either veg in my case or bacon in hers.

But at the end of the day we both respect eachothers point of view because it's a personal choice on what to eat or not.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I eat certain types of meat because I like the taste and I'm not very fond (read as actively dislike) all veg due, due to think to my mum pressure cooking all veg to a gray pulp.

One of my friends is a Vegan and has been since she was 16, through her choice due to her personal beliefs on not eating meat.

We both have the occasional joke attempt at trying to get the other to eat either veg in my case or bacon in hers.

But at the end of the day we both respect eachothers point of view because it's a personal choice on what to eat or not. "

And you can't argue with that everyone makes there own life choices as long as it doesn't affect other people then there should be no issues .

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Whos run over a cat...... omg .... thats awfull

Has knitter being out driving again!?

Ha got a boot full by now !!

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By *piritsonfabCouple over a year ago

Nottingham

i think you are trying to herd cats (get the link!!) trying to get a consensus on that subject.

The fact that some are unable to respect someone's preferences for said dietary choices (who would think we would argue about preferences on here, its unheard of!!

) is one of the downsides of being human i guess.

Oh it's definitely possible. Plenty of vegans thrive. Let's face it,if it was actually impossible, then there woukd be no need to argue about it.

Everyone is entitled to eat what they choose. Some people's choices cause pain and suffering and death to other living creatures and some people's choices don't.

It is strange that many people who eat dead animals are also against foxhunting and bullfighting. Don't see the logic there....

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

i think you are trying to herd cats (get the link!!) trying to get a consensus on that subject.

The fact that some are unable to respect someone's preferences for said dietary choices (who would think we would argue about preferences on here, its unheard of!!

) is one of the downsides of being human i guess.

Oh it's definitely possible. Plenty of vegans thrive. Let's face it,if it was actually impossible, then there woukd be no need to argue about it.

Everyone is entitled to eat what they choose. Some people's choices cause pain and suffering and death to other living creatures and some people's choices don't.

It is strange that many people who eat dead animals are also against foxhunting and bullfighting. Don't see the logic there...."

I shoot but I'm against fox hunting with dogs and bullfighting . I eat what I shoot if not somebody else does and quite frankly enjoy eating meat and I would much rather eat fresh wild meat than farmed animals

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

i think you are trying to herd cats (get the link!!) trying to get a consensus on that subject.

The fact that some are unable to respect someone's preferences for said dietary choices (who would think we would argue about preferences on here, its unheard of!!

) is one of the downsides of being human i guess.

Oh it's definitely possible. Plenty of vegans thrive. Let's face it,if it was actually impossible, then there woukd be no need to argue about it.

Everyone is entitled to eat what they choose. Some people's choices cause pain and suffering and death to other living creatures and some people's choices don't.

It is strange that many people who eat dead animals are also against foxhunting and bullfighting. Don't see the logic there...."

i think that is because the farming industry is strictly regulated and the slaughter process has been refined to be as efficient as possible (yes i know, not every abbatoire is perfect and yes i know that vegans and animal rights activists will disagree with me) whereas fox hunting and bull fighting do cause prolonged and protracted deaths for the animals.

I may like the taste of meat but i am not a monster who likes see an animal suffer unnecessarily. Again i know there are some who believe that an animal dying for me to eat it is unnecessary, i however believe that i am an omnivore and as such enjoy eating meat and veg.

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Vegans appear to live longest and have very healthy lives. All the vegans I know seem very happy, healthy people.

That's their choice. Leave them to it.

Equally, vegans, for those of us who choose to eat meat, leave us to it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There was a time humans were thought unequal. Are animals any less? :-0

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Watched a fantastic programme about the human brain development over the eons and apparently the single largest advancement was caused by cooking and eating meat. Something to do with enhanced nutritional advantage from cooked meat.

Okay, yes that's the type of tv I like to watch

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Vegans appear to live longest and have very healthy lives. All the vegans I know seem very happy, healthy people.

That's their choice. Leave them to it.

Equally, vegans, for those of us who choose to eat meat, leave us to it.

Maybe the vegans don't eat as much fast food maybe not so many ready made meals maybe as a whole they eat more nutrients derived from plants which as meat eaters we don't consume enough. but let's face it the majority of people are lazy when it comes to food they want it quick and easy and to fit in around a hectic workload / lifestyle . No doubt if there was a study the same but comparing to meat eaters who only prepare their own meals and also have a more varied diet the results wouldn't perhaps be so clear cut . I know for me when I was hitting the gym and watching my diet more it was time consuming preparing every meal carefully and expensive to get all the supplements ingredients etc

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Watched a fantastic programme about the human brain development over the eons and apparently the single largest advancement was caused by cooking and eating meat. Something to do with enhanced nutritional advantage from cooked meat.

Okay, yes that's the type of tv I like to watch

Yes I believe there has been an immense amount of research gone into this I think I may have also seen it !!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Vegans appear to live longest and have very healthy lives. All the vegans I know seem very happy, healthy people.

That's their choice. Leave them to it.

Equally, vegans, for those of us who choose to eat meat, leave us to it.

Interesting because all the vegans I've ever met had an emaciated pallor and were very lethargic.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Whos run over a cat...... omg .... thats awfull

Has knitter being out driving again!?

Ha got a boot full by now !! "

Do yer reckon she's branching out from knitting to faux mink coats production

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Vegans appear to live longest and have very healthy lives. All the vegans I know seem very happy, healthy people.

That's their choice. Leave them to it.

Equally, vegans, for those of us who choose to eat meat, leave us to it.

Interesting because all the vegans I've ever met had an emaciated pallor and were very lethargic."

I'm sure they'd just think it as anecdotal evidence from a rotund gentleman.

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By *thwalescplCouple over a year ago

brecon

"Whos run over a cat...... omg .... thats awfull

Well, seeing as its roadkill... anyone for a bbq?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Gorillas are terrific weight-lifters, but human beings excel at long-distance running. Obviously, the gorilla's leafy diet provides enough protein to build strong muscle, as long as the gorilla gets enough calories, but the food is so low in calories that the gorillas have to spend all day eating. Like most leaf-eaters, they have to conserve their energy. In contrast, human beings can get enough energy from eating starchy staples, such as grains or starchy vegetables, to work all day, or to run marathons. That's why most human civilizations throughout world history have based their diet on some starchy staple, such as rice or wheat or corn or potatoes or sweet potatoes. Even our DNA tells us that human beings are starch eaters. Human beings have several extra copies of the gene for the starch-digesting enzyme.

The peoples in Asia, Africa, and Latin America who eat a starchy, plant-based diet are remarkably free from the chronic degenerative diseases that are major causes of death and disability and healthcare costs in the United States. The obvious solution to these health problems is to switch back to "hearty peasant fare": a diet based on starchy staples, such as grains and beans and starchy vegetables, along with other vegetables and fruit

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Vegans appear to live longest and have very healthy lives. All the vegans I know seem very happy, healthy people.

That's their choice. Leave them to it.

Equally, vegans, for those of us who choose to eat meat, leave us to it.

There's a comparative study going on with two towns near each other in America. One is almost entirely vegetarian or vegan and the other is a fast food heaven. Looking at those two extremes is not the same as looking at balanced freshly cooked meat eating but perhaps the study will move on.

I wish I could find a link for it.

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Vegans appear to live longest and have very healthy lives. All the vegans I know seem very happy, healthy people.

That's their choice. Leave them to it.

Equally, vegans, for those of us who choose to eat meat, leave us to it.

Interesting because all the vegans I've ever met had an emaciated pallor and were very lethargic."

Do they live in the cupboard under the stairs?

I know a 70 year who has been vegan for almost 50 years. People think she's closer to 45 than 70 and she is leading a very busy and active life.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Vegans appear to live longest and have very healthy lives. All the vegans I know seem very happy, healthy people.

That's their choice. Leave them to it.

Equally, vegans, for those of us who choose to eat meat, leave us to it.

Interesting because all the vegans I've ever met had an emaciated pallor and were very lethargic.

I'm sure they'd just think it as anecdotal evidence from a rotund gentleman."

You see they have to get personal

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Vegans appear to live longest and have very healthy lives. All the vegans I know seem very happy, healthy people.

That's their choice. Leave them to it.

Equally, vegans, for those of us who choose to eat meat, leave us to it.

Interesting because all the vegans I've ever met had an emaciated pallor and were very lethargic.

I'm sure they'd just think it as anecdotal evidence from a rotund gentleman.

You see they have to get personal "

Are animals any less than humans?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"Vegans appear to live longest and have very healthy lives. All the vegans I know seem very happy, healthy people.

That's their choice. Leave them to it.

Equally, vegans, for those of us who choose to eat meat, leave us to it.

I wish I could find a link for it.

a vegetarian/vegan diet isnt always a healthier diet though. i know a few vegetarians that live off chips and cheese and bread and actually dont eat that many vegetables. equally omnivorous diets aren't all fast food joints and unhealthy foods.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Vegans appear to live longest and have very healthy lives. All the vegans I know seem very happy, healthy people.

That's their choice. Leave them to it.

Equally, vegans, for those of us who choose to eat meat, leave us to it.

Interesting because all the vegans I've ever met had an emaciated pallor and were very lethargic.

Do they live in the cupboard under the stairs?

I know a 70 year who has been vegan for almost 50 years. People think she's closer to 45 than 70 and she is leading a very busy and active life.

My grandfather ate meat, smoked and drank his whole life .. He was still at work at 78 and still did the garden till 10 pm and he lived until he was 98 ... There are always going to be anomalies

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Vegans appear to live longest and have very healthy lives. All the vegans I know seem very happy, healthy people.

That's their choice. Leave them to it.

Equally, vegans, for those of us who choose to eat meat, leave us to it.

I wish I could find a link for it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Vegans appear to live longest and have very healthy lives. All the vegans I know seem very happy, healthy people.

That's their choice. Leave them to it.

Equally, vegans, for those of us who choose to eat meat, leave us to it.

Interesting because all the vegans I've ever met had an emaciated pallor and were very lethargic.

I'm sure they'd just think it as anecdotal evidence from a rotund gentleman.

You see they have to get personal

Are animals any less than humans?"

Meaning what exactly?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Vegans appear to live longest and have very healthy lives. All the vegans I know seem very happy, healthy people.

That's their choice. Leave them to it.

Equally, vegans, for those of us who choose to eat meat, leave us to it.

Interesting because all the vegans I've ever met had an emaciated pallor and were very lethargic.

I'm sure they'd just think it as anecdotal evidence from a rotund gentleman.

You see they have to get personal

Are animals any less than humans?

Meaning what exactly? "

U seen planet of the apes the first one I think? Human shall not kill human? Lol I'm just hypothising

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"Vegans appear to live longest and have very healthy lives. All the vegans I know seem very happy, healthy people.

That's their choice. Leave them to it.

Equally, vegans, for those of us who choose to eat meat, leave us to it.

Interesting because all the vegans I've ever met had an emaciated pallor and were very lethargic.

I'm sure they'd just think it as anecdotal evidence from a rotund gentleman.

You see they have to get personal

Are animals any less than humans?"

because we eat them we have to think less of them? surely the hours that go into animal husbandry looking after the meat we eat shows we are conscious of how they are treated before we eat them.

Princess Ann herself advocated eating horse meat because it would mean a dramatic improvement in the regulation and conditions that horses are required to be kept in.

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Vegans appear to live longest and have very healthy lives. All the vegans I know seem very happy, healthy people.

That's their choice. Leave them to it.

Equally, vegans, for those of us who choose to eat meat, leave us to it.

Interesting because all the vegans I've ever met had an emaciated pallor and were very lethargic.

I'm sure they'd just think it as anecdotal evidence from a rotund gentleman.

You see they have to get personal

Are animals any less than humans?"

You're going with all life is sacred and equal as your argument? What do you say to the animals that eat meat then?

Yes, to humans, animals are less than humans. Unless it's one on one with a really hungry tiger then the tiger may well be above the human.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Vegans appear to live longest and have very healthy lives. All the vegans I know seem very happy, healthy people.

That's their choice. Leave them to it.

Equally, vegans, for those of us who choose to eat meat, leave us to it.

Interesting because all the vegans I've ever met had an emaciated pallor and were very lethargic.

I'm sure they'd just think it as anecdotal evidence from a rotund gentleman.

You see they have to get personal

Are animals any less than humans?

because we eat them we have to think less of them? surely the hours that go into animal husbandry looking after the meat we eat shows we are conscious of how they are treated before we eat them.

Princess Ann herself advocated eating horse meat because it would mean a dramatic improvement in the regulation and conditions that horses are required to be kept in."

Keep them captive I guess. I mentioned earlier there was a time when humans were thought unequal. Isn't it just an extension of the mind to equalise animal lives?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"Vegans appear to live longest and have very healthy lives. All the vegans I know seem very happy, healthy people.

That's their choice. Leave them to it.

Equally, vegans, for those of us who choose to eat meat, leave us to it.

Interesting because all the vegans I've ever met had an emaciated pallor and were very lethargic.

I'm sure they'd just think it as anecdotal evidence from a rotund gentleman.

You see they have to get personal

Are animals any less than humans?

because we eat them we have to think less of them? surely the hours that go into animal husbandry looking after the meat we eat shows we are conscious of how they are treated before we eat them.

Princess Ann herself advocated eating horse meat because it would mean a dramatic improvement in the regulation and conditions that horses are required to be kept in.

Keep them captive I guess. I mentioned earlier there was a time when humans were thought unequal. Isn't it just an extension of the mind to equalise animal lives?"

equalise them how?

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By *aucy3Couple over a year ago

glasgow

"Vegans appear to live longest and have very healthy lives. All the vegans I know seem very happy, healthy people.

That's their choice. Leave them to it.

Equally, vegans, for those of us who choose to eat meat, leave us to it.

They don't actually live longer,

It just feels like it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Vegans appear to live longest and have very healthy lives. All the vegans I know seem very happy, healthy people.

That's their choice. Leave them to it.

Equally, vegans, for those of us who choose to eat meat, leave us to it.

Interesting because all the vegans I've ever met had an emaciated pallor and were very lethargic.

I'm sure they'd just think it as anecdotal evidence from a rotund gentleman.

You see they have to get personal

Are animals any less than humans?

because we eat them we have to think less of them? surely the hours that go into animal husbandry looking after the meat we eat shows we are conscious of how they are treated before we eat them.

Princess Ann herself advocated eating horse meat because it would mean a dramatic improvement in the regulation and conditions that horses are required to be kept in.

Keep them captive I guess. I mentioned earlier there was a time when humans were thought unequal. Isn't it just an extension of the mind to equalise animal lives?

equalise them how?"

By not eating them :-0

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"Vegans appear to live longest and have very healthy lives. All the vegans I know seem very happy, healthy people.

That's their choice. Leave them to it.

Equally, vegans, for those of us who choose to eat meat, leave us to it.

Interesting because all the vegans I've ever met had an emaciated pallor and were very lethargic.

I'm sure they'd just think it as anecdotal evidence from a rotund gentleman.

You see they have to get personal

Are animals any less than humans?

because we eat them we have to think less of them? surely the hours that go into animal husbandry looking after the meat we eat shows we are conscious of how they are treated before we eat them.

Princess Ann herself advocated eating horse meat because it would mean a dramatic improvement in the regulation and conditions that horses are required to be kept in.

Keep them captive I guess. I mentioned earlier there was a time when humans were thought unequal. Isn't it just an extension of the mind to equalise animal lives?

equalise them how?

By not eating them :-0"

how does that make them equal to humans?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Vegans appear to live longest and have very healthy lives. All the vegans I know seem very happy, healthy people.

That's their choice. Leave them to it.

Equally, vegans, for those of us who choose to eat meat, leave us to it.

Interesting because all the vegans I've ever met had an emaciated pallor and were very lethargic.

I'm sure they'd just think it as anecdotal evidence from a rotund gentleman.

You see they have to get personal

Are animals any less than humans?

because we eat them we have to think less of them? surely the hours that go into animal husbandry looking after the meat we eat shows we are conscious of how they are treated before we eat them.

Princess Ann herself advocated eating horse meat because it would mean a dramatic improvement in the regulation and conditions that horses are required to be kept in.

Keep them captive I guess. I mentioned earlier there was a time when humans were thought unequal. Isn't it just an extension of the mind to equalise animal lives?

equalise them how?

By not eating them :-0

how does that make them equal to humans?"

That humans shall not use their power to hurt/kill other humans or animals

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Vegans appear to live longest and have very healthy lives. All the vegans I know seem very happy, healthy people.

That's their choice. Leave them to it.

Equally, vegans, for those of us who choose to eat meat, leave us to it.

Interesting because all the vegans I've ever met had an emaciated pallor and were very lethargic.

I'm sure they'd just think it as anecdotal evidence from a rotund gentleman.

You see they have to get personal

Are animals any less than humans?

because we eat them we have to think less of them? surely the hours that go into animal husbandry looking after the meat we eat shows we are conscious of how they are treated before we eat them.

Princess Ann herself advocated eating horse meat because it would mean a dramatic improvement in the regulation and conditions that horses are required to be kept in.

Keep them captive I guess. I mentioned earlier there was a time when humans were thought unequal. Isn't it just an extension of the mind to equalise animal lives?

equalise them how?

By not eating them :-0

how does that make them equal to humans?

That humans shall not use their power to hurt/kill other humans or animals "

I'm talking superman fiction now ...lol with great power comes great responsibility :-0

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"Vegans appear to live longest and have very healthy lives. All the vegans I know seem very happy, healthy people.

That's their choice. Leave them to it.

Equally, vegans, for those of us who choose to eat meat, leave us to it.

Interesting because all the vegans I've ever met had an emaciated pallor and were very lethargic.

I'm sure they'd just think it as anecdotal evidence from a rotund gentleman.

You see they have to get personal

Are animals any less than humans?

because we eat them we have to think less of them? surely the hours that go into animal husbandry looking after the meat we eat shows we are conscious of how they are treated before we eat them.

Princess Ann herself advocated eating horse meat because it would mean a dramatic improvement in the regulation and conditions that horses are required to be kept in.

Keep them captive I guess. I mentioned earlier there was a time when humans were thought unequal. Isn't it just an extension of the mind to equalise animal lives?

equalise them how?

By not eating them :-0

how does that make them equal to humans?

That humans shall not use their power to hurt/kill other humans or animals "

will the animals treat us equally and not hurt or kill us when we come into contact with them?

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Vegans appear to live longest and have very healthy lives. All the vegans I know seem very happy, healthy people.

That's their choice. Leave them to it.

Equally, vegans, for those of us who choose to eat meat, leave us to it.

Interesting because all the vegans I've ever met had an emaciated pallor and were very lethargic.

I'm sure they'd just think it as anecdotal evidence from a rotund gentleman.

You see they have to get personal

Are animals any less than humans?

because we eat them we have to think less of them? surely the hours that go into animal husbandry looking after the meat we eat shows we are conscious of how they are treated before we eat them.

Princess Ann herself advocated eating horse meat because it would mean a dramatic improvement in the regulation and conditions that horses are required to be kept in.

Keep them captive I guess. I mentioned earlier there was a time when humans were thought unequal. Isn't it just an extension of the mind to equalise animal lives?

equalise them how?

By not eating them :-0

how does that make them equal to humans?

That humans shall not use their power to hurt/kill other humans or animals "

Humans hurt and kill other humans all the time. Just look at the news. Some animals hurt and kill other animals, of their own and other species, all the time too.

If we can make a choice not to hurt, kill and eat other humans or other animals but the animals are incapable of making such a choice does that put us above the animals or make them equal to us?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Vegans appear to live longest and have very healthy lives. All the vegans I know seem very happy, healthy people.

That's their choice. Leave them to it.

Equally, vegans, for those of us who choose to eat meat, leave us to it.

Interesting because all the vegans I've ever met had an emaciated pallor and were very lethargic.

I'm sure they'd just think it as anecdotal evidence from a rotund gentleman.

You see they have to get personal

Are animals any less than humans?

because we eat them we have to think less of them? surely the hours that go into animal husbandry looking after the meat we eat shows we are conscious of how they are treated before we eat them.

Princess Ann herself advocated eating horse meat because it would mean a dramatic improvement in the regulation and conditions that horses are required to be kept in.

Keep them captive I guess. I mentioned earlier there was a time when humans were thought unequal. Isn't it just an extension of the mind to equalise animal lives?

equalise them how?

By not eating them :-0

how does that make them equal to humans?

That humans shall not use their power to hurt/kill other humans or animals

will the animals treat us equally and not hurt or kill us when we come into contact with them?

Why think of what we as humans get out of animals?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"Vegans appear to live longest and have very healthy lives. All the vegans I know seem very happy, healthy people.

That's their choice. Leave them to it.

Equally, vegans, for those of us who choose to eat meat, leave us to it.

Interesting because all the vegans I've ever met had an emaciated pallor and were very lethargic.

I'm sure they'd just think it as anecdotal evidence from a rotund gentleman.

You see they have to get personal

Are animals any less than humans?

because we eat them we have to think less of them? surely the hours that go into animal husbandry looking after the meat we eat shows we are conscious of how they are treated before we eat them.

Princess Ann herself advocated eating horse meat because it would mean a dramatic improvement in the regulation and conditions that horses are required to be kept in.

Keep them captive I guess. I mentioned earlier there was a time when humans were thought unequal. Isn't it just an extension of the mind to equalise animal lives?

equalise them how?

By not eating them :-0

how does that make them equal to humans?

That humans shall not use their power to hurt/kill other humans or animals

will the animals treat us equally and not hurt or kill us when we come into contact with them?

Why think of what we as humans get out of animals? "

i dont really understand what you mean here

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why be a vegan??

The one thing that would put me off is that disgusting carob chocolate substitute ...

I'd much rather become a pescatarian as I hardly ever eat meat anyway

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Vegans appear to live longest and have very healthy lives. All the vegans I know seem very happy, healthy people.

That's their choice. Leave them to it.

Equally, vegans, for those of us who choose to eat meat, leave us to it.

Interesting because all the vegans I've ever met had an emaciated pallor and were very lethargic.

I'm sure they'd just think it as anecdotal evidence from a rotund gentleman.

You see they have to get personal

Are animals any less than humans?

because we eat them we have to think less of them? surely the hours that go into animal husbandry looking after the meat we eat shows we are conscious of how they are treated before we eat them.

Princess Ann herself advocated eating horse meat because it would mean a dramatic improvement in the regulation and conditions that horses are required to be kept in.

Keep them captive I guess. I mentioned earlier there was a time when humans were thought unequal. Isn't it just an extension of the mind to equalise animal lives?

equalise them how?

By not eating them :-0

how does that make them equal to humans?

That humans shall not use their power to hurt/kill other humans or animals

will the animals treat us equally and not hurt or kill us when we come into contact with them?

Why think of what we as humans get out of animals?

i dont really understand what you mean here"

Lol I'm talking gibberish now. We as humans have taken over the planet...we granted our similars equal rights...but will ride roughshod over those dissimilar to us. I'm talking moral high ground really...maybe not practical but still worth having in mind all the time

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

The bit that is more than a little disconcerting, and confusing, gibberish is that you keep talking about humans have granted their similars rights. What I understand you to mean is that humans who had previously enslaved other humans and then given the enslaved rights (for which many would argue there is a long way to go yet) means we are at a point where we can give animals the same rights.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yup. It's all in our human imagination

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By *riskynriskyCouple over a year ago

Essex.

If everyone became vegans and stopped killing animals, how long before rabbits over ran the fields decimating the vegetables?

How would that problem be resolved?

Again if everyone stopped eating meat, what would happen to farm animals?

You would end up with zoo's keeping sheep, pigs and cows etc just to stop them becoming extinct...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Animals Lives Matter

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm actually quite impressed - I've seen far more ignorant arguments about veganism in far more educated corners of the internet (that isn't exactly saying much though).

I'm a fully fledged carnivore FYI, but I'm happy for others to choose a diet of their choice without having to be a fuckbag about it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm actually quite impressed - I've seen far more ignorant arguments about veganism in far more educated corners of the internet (that isn't exactly saying much though).

I'm a fully fledged carnivore FYI, but I'm happy for others to choose a diet of their choice without having to be a fuckbag about it."

...and then I saw the other thread.

I thought I might be being a little too optimistic.

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I'm actually quite impressed - I've seen far more ignorant arguments about veganism in far more educated corners of the internet (that isn't exactly saying much though).

I'm a fully fledged carnivore FYI, but I'm happy for others to choose a diet of their choice without having to be a fuckbag about it.

...and then I saw the other thread.

I thought I might be being a little too optimistic."

Yes, I saw the other thread just before it closed. This one was fruit salad compared to the bloodthirsty carnage* on that one.

*Used for its Latin root.

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By *aucy3Couple over a year ago

glasgow

"Vegans appear to live longest and have very healthy lives. All the vegans I know seem very happy, healthy people.

That's their choice. Leave them to it.

Equally, vegans, for those of us who choose to eat meat, leave us to it.

Interesting because all the vegans I've ever met had an emaciated pallor and were very lethargic.

I'm sure they'd just think it as anecdotal evidence from a rotund gentleman.

You see they have to get personal

Are animals any less than humans?

because we eat them we have to think less of them? surely the hours that go into animal husbandry looking after the meat we eat shows we are conscious of how they are treated before we eat them.

Princess Ann herself advocated eating horse meat because it would mean a dramatic improvement in the regulation and conditions that horses are required to be kept in.

Keep them captive I guess. I mentioned earlier there was a time when humans were thought unequal. Isn't it just an extension of the mind to equalise animal lives?

equalise them how?

By not eating them :-0

how does that make them equal to humans?

That humans shall not use their power to hurt/kill other humans or animals

will the animals treat us equally and not hurt or kill us when we come into contact with them?

Why think of what we as humans get out of animals? "

Meat,otherwise there would be no need for animals.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Vegans appear to live longest and have very healthy lives. All the vegans I know seem very happy, healthy people.

That's their choice. Leave them to it.

Equally, vegans, for those of us who choose to eat meat, leave us to it.

Interesting because all the vegans I've ever met had an emaciated pallor and were very lethargic.

I'm sure they'd just think it as anecdotal evidence from a rotund gentleman.

You see they have to get personal

Are animals any less than humans?

because we eat them we have to think less of them? surely the hours that go into animal husbandry looking after the meat we eat shows we are conscious of how they are treated before we eat them.

Princess Ann herself advocated eating horse meat because it would mean a dramatic improvement in the regulation and conditions that horses are required to be kept in.

Keep them captive I guess. I mentioned earlier there was a time when humans were thought unequal. Isn't it just an extension of the mind to equalise animal lives?

equalise them how?

By not eating them :-0

how does that make them equal to humans?

That humans shall not use their power to hurt/kill other humans or animals

will the animals treat us equally and not hurt or kill us when we come into contact with them?

Why think of what we as humans get out of animals?

Meat,otherwise there would be no need for animals.

Lol I'm out. It's getting emotional for many :-0

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I thought id invented that term for guys with a hair trigger

Well known and well used phrase.....pandaman

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How many vegan threads can one forum hold

It's been fun!

Vegan here at home, and as much as possible out. If I'm with friends or family, I won't ask them to make anything else for me. If I'm out at a restaurant, I'll go off the menu, but not ask the staff to make something special. That's my choice, it's not for everyone. I just try and keep the hassle my choice causes to others to an absolute minimum.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How many vegan threads can one forum hold

It's been fun!

But it's a political world? Make ur preferences heard?! That's the dilemma I got hmm.

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By *riskynriskyCouple over a year ago

Essex.

Who else thought of the talking cow in "Restaurant at the end of the universe"?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Who else thought of the talking cow in "Restaurant at the end of the universe"?"

Lol that's quite romantic poetry lmao

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS over a year ago

Limavady

Do vegans swallow sperm and do male vegans wank knowing that they are killing all those sperm just for their own pleasure?

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By *riskynriskyCouple over a year ago

Essex.

"Do vegans swallow sperm and do male vegans wank knowing that they are killing all those sperm just for their own pleasure?

Some religious groups think that any form of ejeculation that is not a dire t attempt at procreation is murder...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Isn't that what koalas do?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

On a lighter note I can say that I am looking forward to my bacon, Brie and cranberry sauce stick on site today

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By *riskynriskyCouple over a year ago

Essex.

I don't know if I could live without bacon....mmmm

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Omg this thing is like heaven in tinfoil!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Meat eater here and happy with it but I also love eating lots of veggies and salads ect.

Have been called a corpse eater before now by a bloke that was a vegan but that's his opinion LoL.

Some things I'm not understanding is that it's cool for someone to be a veggie or indeed a vegan but what's the deal about veggie bacon? Or people trying to make vegetarian stuff look similar to meat? If you're vegetarian then surely no point in dressing it up as something that it is not.

And that quorn stuff tastes really horrible

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