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"No, it was horrible "My apologies, it was meant as a light hearted quip and then people started getting personal. I didn't intend to take over the last one but I can at least argue my corner rationally... The strange thing is I put a similar comment on a thread about homeless people and not one person protested... Shows where peoples priorities lay I suppose... | |||
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"Sure.....as soon as I've finished laying bear traps around Essex :P Population control you see" Going to eat them are you or just doing it for fun ?  | |||
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"No, it was horrible
My apologies, it was meant as a light hearted quip and then people started getting personal.
I didn't intend to take over the last one but I can at least argue my corner rationally...
The strange thing is I put a similar comment on a thread about homeless people and not one person protested...
Shows where peoples priorities lay I suppose..."No need to apologise, I wasn't thinking about anyone in particular, just some of the very sad things I read  | |||
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"Sure.....as soon as I've finished laying bear traps around Essex :P Population control you see" The difference is I agree with you, the population of Essex could do with thinning out. I blame TOWIE, but bear traps are illegal and I don't do illegal... | |||
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"Sure.....as soon as I've finished laying bear traps around Essex :P Population control you see Going to eat them are you or just doing it for fun ? "Putting some bleach in the gene pool. | |||
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"No, it was horrible " | |||
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"My favourite line was "I don't give two shits" about sums it up !! "That was my favourite line too | |||
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"Sure.....as soon as I've finished laying bear traps around Essex :P Population control you see Going to eat them are you or just doing it for fun ?
Putting some bleach in the gene pool.
"At least we have a gene pool, if it was left to you we would have starved to death...  | |||
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"Funny how a thread on dogs comes up and lots of people say that too many idiots have dogs, dog licenses should be brought back etc.... And yet anyone can have a cat, and cats do all manner of damage. Imagine the furore if I let my dogs shit in other peoples' back gardens....." Plenty of dogs shit on the footpath which is annoying. | |||
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"Funny how a thread on dogs comes up and lots of people say that too many idiots have dogs, dog licenses should be brought back etc.... And yet anyone can have a cat, and cats do all manner of damage. Imagine the furore if I let my dogs shit in other peoples' back gardens..... Plenty of dogs shit on the footpath which is annoying. " Totally agree, I am not sure which is worse. Leaving it or putting it in a bag and dropping the bag... | |||
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"Sure.....as soon as I've finished laying bear traps around Essex :P Population control you see Going to eat them are you or just doing it for fun ?
Putting some bleach in the gene pool.
"It's a big pool I hope you've bought in bulk ??!! Come on satisfy my curiosity do you live in a city /large town or are you a grass chewing bumpkin a bit like me .., I mean when you were growing up were you riding a bmx round and hanging outside shops and or playing on your spectrum or were you out in the fields with knives and airguns making things shooting things experimenting with fire and gunpowder , pulling everything to pieces and putting them back together from toys to engines and also learning a hell of a lot about nature and mechanics and just everything in general ... Or were you the other kind who has a vast knowledge of everything from reading a book? | |||
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"Sure.....as soon as I've finished laying bear traps around Essex :P Population control you see Going to eat them are you or just doing it for fun ?
Putting some bleach in the gene pool.
At least we have a gene pool, if it was left to you we would have starved to death... " | |||
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"must admit, I didn't see the relavance of questioning me walking to the station on the last thread... I walk to the local railway station to get the train to work. It's only a mile and a half, no point taking the car such a short journey and the buses aren't running that early... " Facepalm.... | |||
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"Sure.....as soon as I've finished laying bear traps around Essex :P Population control you see Going to eat them are you or just doing it for fun ?
Putting some bleach in the gene pool.
At least we have a gene pool, if it was left to you we would have starved to death...
""I'm not necessarily opposed to killing for food as that's part of our natural evolution.....we are the animal top of the food chain. "........who was it who said that again?......Oh yeah it was me! | |||
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"Funny how a thread on dogs comes up and lots of people say that too many idiots have dogs, dog licenses should be brought back etc.... And yet anyone can have a cat, and cats do all manner of damage. Imagine the furore if I let my dogs shit in other peoples' back gardens....." It's a bit of shit youth. It's not that big a deal. | |||
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"Funny how a thread on dogs comes up and lots of people say that too many idiots have dogs, dog licenses should be brought back etc.... And yet anyone can have a cat, and cats do all manner of damage. Imagine the furore if I let my dogs shit in other peoples' back gardens..... Plenty of dogs shit on the footpath which is annoying. " At least dog owners don't turn them out to kill stuff and shit wherever they please. I'm not sure that the owning of cats should really be allowed unless they are kept in. Songbirds are in massive decline and cats play a very significant role in this....what do people need them for? Other less murderous pets are available.... | |||
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"Funny how a thread on dogs comes up and lots of people say that too many idiots have dogs, dog licenses should be brought back etc.... And yet anyone can have a cat, and cats do all manner of damage. Imagine the furore if I let my dogs shit in other peoples' back gardens..... It's a bit of shit youth. It's not that big a deal. " You say that, but look at how mental people go about a bit of dogshit in the park/pn the pavement... | |||
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"Funny how a thread on dogs comes up and lots of people say that too many idiots have dogs, dog licenses should be brought back etc.... And yet anyone can have a cat, and cats do all manner of damage. Imagine the furore if I let my dogs shit in other peoples' back gardens..... It's a bit of shit youth. It's not that big a deal. You say that, but look at how mental people go about a bit of dogshit in the park/pn the pavement..." Exactly and that's public property what about when it's private property that I have paid for work hard to take care off and then someone's discarded cat comes and shits all over it not to mention kills the fish scratches the car etc | |||
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"Funny how a thread on dogs comes up and lots of people say that too many idiots have dogs, dog licenses should be brought back etc.... And yet anyone can have a cat, and cats do all manner of damage. Imagine the furore if I let my dogs shit in other peoples' back gardens..... Plenty of dogs shit on the footpath which is annoying. At least dog owners don't turn them out to kill stuff and shit wherever they please. I'm not sure that the owning of cats should really be allowed unless they are kept in. Songbirds are in massive decline and cats play a very significant role in this....what do people need them for? Other less murderous pets are available...." Plenty of dog owners let them shit wherever they please, hence the dog shit on the footpath. The thing is, I don't want another available pet. I want a cat, I have one and will always have one. | |||
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"Funny how a thread on dogs comes up and lots of people say that too many idiots have dogs, dog licenses should be brought back etc.... And yet anyone can have a cat, and cats do all manner of damage. Imagine the furore if I let my dogs shit in other peoples' back gardens..... It's a bit of shit youth. It's not that big a deal. You say that, but look at how mental people go about a bit of dogshit in the park/pn the pavement... Exactly and that's public property what about when it's private property that I have paid for work hard to take care off and then someone's discarded cat comes and shits all over it not to mention kills the fish scratches the car etc " I really get the feeling that cats don't particularly like you | |||
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"Funny how a thread on dogs comes up and lots of people say that too many idiots have dogs, dog licenses should be brought back etc.... And yet anyone can have a cat, and cats do all manner of damage. Imagine the furore if I let my dogs shit in other peoples' back gardens..... It's a bit of shit youth. It's not that big a deal. You say that, but look at how mental people go about a bit of dogshit in the park/pn the pavement... Exactly and that's public property what about when it's private property that I have paid for work hard to take care off and then someone's discarded cat comes and shits all over it not to mention kills the fish scratches the car etc I really get the feeling that cats don't particularly like you "You sure that's not a tazmanian devil? | |||
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"Funny how a thread on dogs comes up and lots of people say that too many idiots have dogs, dog licenses should be brought back etc.... And yet anyone can have a cat, and cats do all manner of damage. Imagine the furore if I let my dogs shit in other peoples' back gardens..... Plenty of dogs shit on the footpath which is annoying. At least dog owners don't turn them out to kill stuff and shit wherever they please. I'm not sure that the owning of cats should really be allowed unless they are kept in. Songbirds are in massive decline and cats play a very significant role in this....what do people need them for? Other less murderous pets are available.... Plenty of dog owners let them shit wherever they please, hence the dog shit on the footpath. The thing is, I don't want another available pet. I want a cat, I have one and will always have one. " . I don't get any dogs shitting in MY garden because they are responsible and keep them in their own ! You should have a cat if you want one but keep it for yourself don't but one for the benefit of your neighbours | |||
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"Funny how a thread on dogs comes up and lots of people say that too many idiots have dogs, dog licenses should be brought back etc.... And yet anyone can have a cat, and cats do all manner of damage. Imagine the furore if I let my dogs shit in other peoples' back gardens..... It's a bit of shit youth. It's not that big a deal. You say that, but look at how mental people go about a bit of dogshit in the park/pn the pavement... Exactly and that's public property what about when it's private property that I have paid for work hard to take care off and then someone's discarded cat comes and shits all over it not to mention kills the fish scratches the car etc I really get the feeling that cats don't particularly like you "Ha the feeling is mutual | |||
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"Funny how a thread on dogs comes up and lots of people say that too many idiots have dogs, dog licenses should be brought back etc.... And yet anyone can have a cat, and cats do all manner of damage. Imagine the furore if I let my dogs shit in other peoples' back gardens..... It's a bit of shit youth. It's not that big a deal. You say that, but look at how mental people go about a bit of dogshit in the park/pn the pavement... Exactly and that's public property what about when it's private property that I have paid for work hard to take care off and then someone's discarded cat comes and shits all over it not to mention kills the fish scratches the car etc I really get the feeling that cats don't particularly like you
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"Funny how a thread on dogs comes up and lots of people say that too many idiots have dogs, dog licenses should be brought back etc.... And yet anyone can have a cat, and cats do all manner of damage. Imagine the furore if I let my dogs shit in other peoples' back gardens..... Plenty of dogs shit on the footpath which is annoying. At least dog owners don't turn them out to kill stuff and shit wherever they please. I'm not sure that the owning of cats should really be allowed unless they are kept in. Songbirds are in massive decline and cats play a very significant role in this....what do people need them for? Other less murderous pets are available.... Plenty of dog owners let them shit wherever they please, hence the dog shit on the footpath. The thing is, I don't want another available pet. I want a cat, I have one and will always have one. . I don't get any dogs shitting in MY garden because they are responsible and keep them in their own ! You should have a cat if you want one but keep it for yourself don't but one for the benefit of your neighbours " I'd like to meet one of these responsible dogs! Maybe get one to do my tax return? | |||
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"Funny how a thread on dogs comes up and lots of people say that too many idiots have dogs, dog licenses should be brought back etc.... And yet anyone can have a cat, and cats do all manner of damage. Imagine the furore if I let my dogs shit in other peoples' back gardens..... Plenty of dogs shit on the footpath which is annoying. At least dog owners don't turn them out to kill stuff and shit wherever they please. I'm not sure that the owning of cats should really be allowed unless they are kept in. Songbirds are in massive decline and cats play a very significant role in this....what do people need them for? Other less murderous pets are available.... Plenty of dog owners let them shit wherever they please, hence the dog shit on the footpath. The thing is, I don't want another available pet. I want a cat, I have one and will always have one. " As long as it doesn't come in my gaden, then thats fine. As someone who takes responsability for your animals, I'm sure you keep it inside. | |||
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"Funny how a thread on dogs comes up and lots of people say that too many idiots have dogs, dog licenses should be brought back etc.... And yet anyone can have a cat, and cats do all manner of damage. Imagine the furore if I let my dogs shit in other peoples' back gardens..... Plenty of dogs shit on the footpath which is annoying. At least dog owners don't turn them out to kill stuff and shit wherever they please. I'm not sure that the owning of cats should really be allowed unless they are kept in. Songbirds are in massive decline and cats play a very significant role in this....what do people need them for? Other less murderous pets are available.... Plenty of dog owners let them shit wherever they please, hence the dog shit on the footpath. The thing is, I don't want another available pet. I want a cat, I have one and will always have one. . I don't get any dogs shitting in MY garden because they are responsible and keep them in their own ! You should have a cat if you want one but keep it for yourself don't but one for the benefit of your neighbours I'd like to meet one of these responsible dogs! Maybe get one to do my tax return?" Ha I knew you would pick up on that typo !! You're a Wanker but you are thorough I'll give you that | |||
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"Funny how a thread on dogs comes up and lots of people say that too many idiots have dogs, dog licenses should be brought back etc.... And yet anyone can have a cat, and cats do all manner of damage. Imagine the furore if I let my dogs shit in other peoples' back gardens..... Plenty of dogs shit on the footpath which is annoying. At least dog owners don't turn them out to kill stuff and shit wherever they please. I'm not sure that the owning of cats should really be allowed unless they are kept in. Songbirds are in massive decline and cats play a very significant role in this....what do people need them for? Other less murderous pets are available.... Plenty of dog owners let them shit wherever they please, hence the dog shit on the footpath. The thing is, I don't want another available pet. I want a cat, I have one and will always have one. . I don't get any dogs shitting in MY garden because they are responsible and keep them in their own ! You should have a cat if you want one but keep it for yourself don't but one for the benefit of your neighbours I'd like to meet one of these responsible dogs! Maybe get one to do my tax return? Ha I knew you would pick up on that typo !! You're a Wanker but you are thorough I'll give you that "Typo? I almost needed the Rosetta Stone! | |||
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"Funny how a thread on dogs comes up and lots of people say that too many idiots have dogs, dog licenses should be brought back etc.... And yet anyone can have a cat, and cats do all manner of damage. Imagine the furore if I let my dogs shit in other peoples' back gardens..... Plenty of dogs shit on the footpath which is annoying. At least dog owners don't turn them out to kill stuff and shit wherever they please. I'm not sure that the owning of cats should really be allowed unless they are kept in. Songbirds are in massive decline and cats play a very significant role in this....what do people need them for? Other less murderous pets are available.... Plenty of dog owners let them shit wherever they please, hence the dog shit on the footpath. The thing is, I don't want another available pet. I want a cat, I have one and will always have one. . I don't get any dogs shitting in MY garden because they are responsible and keep them in their own ! You should have a cat if you want one but keep it for yourself don't but one for the benefit of your neighbours " I get some dogs shitting in my garden. They're obviously not as responsible as the ones in your neighborhood. Cats tend to do their business in soil and cover it up whereas dogs will do it anywhere. Was it you who stepped on cat shit whilst walking to your car? I find that surprising as it's never happened me. | |||
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"This is actually 'Where the Pets Shit' thread " | |||
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"This is actually 'Where the Pets Shit' thread "Yep, can it be changed afterwards? | |||
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"This is actually 'Where the Pets Shit' thread "That may be an idea new Channel 5 programme  | |||
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"Funny how a thread on dogs comes up and lots of people say that too many idiots have dogs, dog licenses should be brought back etc.... And yet anyone can have a cat, and cats do all manner of damage. Imagine the furore if I let my dogs shit in other peoples' back gardens..... Plenty of dogs shit on the footpath which is annoying. At least dog owners don't turn them out to kill stuff and shit wherever they please. I'm not sure that the owning of cats should really be allowed unless they are kept in. Songbirds are in massive decline and cats play a very significant role in this....what do people need them for? Other less murderous pets are available.... Plenty of dog owners let them shit wherever they please, hence the dog shit on the footpath. The thing is, I don't want another available pet. I want a cat, I have one and will always have one. . I don't get any dogs shitting in MY garden because they are responsible and keep them in their own ! You should have a cat if you want one but keep it for yourself don't but one for the benefit of your neighbours I get some dogs shitting in my garden. They're obviously not as responsible as the ones in your neighborhood. Cats tend to do their business in soil and cover it up whereas dogs will do it anywhere. Was it you who stepped on cat shit whilst walking to your car? I find that surprising as it's never happened me. " As long as they do it in your soil, in your garden it's fine. As long as they only kill the songbirds in your garden, fine - its' a bit cunty, but its your business. | |||
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"Funny how a thread on dogs comes up and lots of people say that too many idiots have dogs, dog licenses should be brought back etc.... And yet anyone can have a cat, and cats do all manner of damage. Imagine the furore if I let my dogs shit in other peoples' back gardens..... Plenty of dogs shit on the footpath which is annoying. At least dog owners don't turn them out to kill stuff and shit wherever they please. I'm not sure that the owning of cats should really be allowed unless they are kept in. Songbirds are in massive decline and cats play a very significant role in this....what do people need them for? Other less murderous pets are available.... Plenty of dog owners let them shit wherever they please, hence the dog shit on the footpath. The thing is, I don't want another available pet. I want a cat, I have one and will always have one. As long as it doesn't come in my gaden, then thats fine. As someone who takes responsability for your animals, I'm sure you keep it inside. " No, she goes out whenever she wants really. | |||
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"This is actually 'Where the Pets Shit' thread
That may be an idea new Channel 5 programme "You're on | |||
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"This is actually 'Where the Pets Shit' thread
That may be an idea new Channel 5 programme "Already is on ITV: 'Shit where you eat', or as I like to call it; 'Jeremy Kyle'. | |||
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"Funny how a thread on dogs comes up and lots of people say that too many idiots have dogs, dog licenses should be brought back etc.... And yet anyone can have a cat, and cats do all manner of damage. Imagine the furore if I let my dogs shit in other peoples' back gardens..... Plenty of dogs shit on the footpath which is annoying. At least dog owners don't turn them out to kill stuff and shit wherever they please. I'm not sure that the owning of cats should really be allowed unless they are kept in. Songbirds are in massive decline and cats play a very significant role in this....what do people need them for? Other less murderous pets are available.... Plenty of dog owners let them shit wherever they please, hence the dog shit on the footpath. The thing is, I don't want another available pet. I want a cat, I have one and will always have one. . I don't get any dogs shitting in MY garden because they are responsible and keep them in their own ! You should have a cat if you want one but keep it for yourself don't but one for the benefit of your neighbours I get some dogs shitting in my garden. They're obviously not as responsible as the ones in your neighborhood. Cats tend to do their business in soil and cover it up whereas dogs will do it anywhere. Was it you who stepped on cat shit whilst walking to your car? I find that surprising as it's never happened me. " Probably because your cat shits in everyone else's garden other than its own , they normally do ! And yes I'm surrounded by lots of soil surprisingly | |||
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The guaranteed way to keep cats away is to get a cat... | |||
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"This is actually 'Where the Pets Shit' thread
That may be an idea new Channel 5 programme
Already is on ITV: 'Shit where you eat', or as I like to call it; 'Jeremy Kyle'." | |||
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"Funny how a thread on dogs comes up and lots of people say that too many idiots have dogs, dog licenses should be brought back etc.... And yet anyone can have a cat, and cats do all manner of damage. Imagine the furore if I let my dogs shit in other peoples' back gardens..... Plenty of dogs shit on the footpath which is annoying. At least dog owners don't turn them out to kill stuff and shit wherever they please. I'm not sure that the owning of cats should really be allowed unless they are kept in. Songbirds are in massive decline and cats play a very significant role in this....what do people need them for? Other less murderous pets are available.... Plenty of dog owners let them shit wherever they please, hence the dog shit on the footpath. The thing is, I don't want another available pet. I want a cat, I have one and will always have one. . I don't get any dogs shitting in MY garden because they are responsible and keep them in their own ! You should have a cat if you want one but keep it for yourself don't but one for the benefit of your neighbours I get some dogs shitting in my garden. They're obviously not as responsible as the ones in your neighborhood. Cats tend to do their business in soil and cover it up whereas dogs will do it anywhere. Was it you who stepped on cat shit whilst walking to your car? I find that surprising as it's never happened me. Probably because your cat shits in everyone else's garden other than its own , they normally do ! And yes I'm surrounded by lots of soil surprisingly " No, I walk on concrete to get to my car  | |||
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"So now you're putting sick animals out of their misery? Keep changing your argument and suggesting what I might do with a sick rabbit is a clear avoidance technique. Couple this with your argument based on your personal experience walking to work (!?) and this suggests to me that you don't have any real substance behind your ethical choice... Lifted from the previous thread... I listed the reasons that myself and others hunt. Yes shooting a rabbit with myxy is a humane thing to do. Shooting a rabbit or deer can feed people and reduce crop damage, so I am not changing my argument. I walk to the station early in the morning. I see foxes, cats, badgers... There was no avoidance, just curiosity... To go on, myself alone probably doesn't make a lot of difference but when you add together the thousands of people that go hunting it makes a big difference. When the local Laird sent his gamekeepers on to my aunts farm to get rid of the rabbits, they nearly wiped them out. It took a couple of years for them to start being noticeable again. That was two years that certain fields could sustain sheep for longer... So yes it does make a difference. .." . See that that's first hand knowledge not something you've read in ok magazine ! | |||
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore." I don't live near a farm so I don't need to worry about poultry. | |||
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"Funny how a thread on dogs comes up and lots of people say that too many idiots have dogs, dog licenses should be brought back etc.... And yet anyone can have a cat, and cats do all manner of damage. Imagine the furore if I let my dogs shit in other peoples' back gardens..... Plenty of dogs shit on the footpath which is annoying. At least dog owners don't turn them out to kill stuff and shit wherever they please. I'm not sure that the owning of cats should really be allowed unless they are kept in. Songbirds are in massive decline and cats play a very significant role in this....what do people need them for? Other less murderous pets are available.... Plenty of dog owners let them shit wherever they please, hence the dog shit on the footpath. The thing is, I don't want another available pet. I want a cat, I have one and will always have one. . I don't get any dogs shitting in MY garden because they are responsible and keep them in their own ! You should have a cat if you want one but keep it for yourself don't but one for the benefit of your neighbours I get some dogs shitting in my garden. They're obviously not as responsible as the ones in your neighborhood. Cats tend to do their business in soil and cover it up whereas dogs will do it anywhere. Was it you who stepped on cat shit whilst walking to your car? I find that surprising as it's never happened me. Probably because your cat shits in everyone else's garden other than its own , they normally do ! And yes I'm surrounded by lots of soil surprisingly No, I walk on concrete to get to my car "So do I but I'm afraid I couldn't afford to concrete 2 acres of garden | |||
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"So now you're putting sick animals out of their misery? Keep changing your argument and suggesting what I might do with a sick rabbit is a clear avoidance technique. Couple this with your argument based on your personal experience walking to work (!?) and this suggests to me that you don't have any real substance behind your ethical choice... Lifted from the previous thread... I listed the reasons that myself and others hunt. Yes shooting a rabbit with myxy is a humane thing to do. Shooting a rabbit or deer can feed people and reduce crop damage, so I am not changing my argument. I walk to the station early in the morning. I see foxes, cats, badgers... There was no avoidance, just curiosity... To go on, myself alone probably doesn't make a lot of difference but when you add together the thousands of people that go hunting it makes a big difference. When the local Laird sent his gamekeepers on to my aunts farm to get rid of the rabbits, they nearly wiped them out. It took a couple of years for them to start being noticeable again. That was two years that certain fields could sustain sheep for longer... So yes it does make a difference. .. . See that that's first hand knowledge not something you've read in ok magazine ! "Why would you assume I read OK magazine?? You also made the assumption I didn't live in the countryside! | |||
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. I don't live near a farm so I don't need to worry about poultry. " I actually think you are very narrow minded and i don't mean to offend you but it is something you seem quite proud of | |||
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"No, I walk on concrete to get to my car
So do I but I'm afraid I couldn't afford to concrete 2 acres of garden "I always park my car in the same place so don't have that problem | |||
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"Funny how a thread on dogs comes up and lots of people say that too many idiots have dogs, dog licenses should be brought back etc.... And yet anyone can have a cat, and cats do all manner of damage. Imagine the furore if I let my dogs shit in other peoples' back gardens..... Plenty of dogs shit on the footpath which is annoying. At least dog owners don't turn them out to kill stuff and shit wherever they please. I'm not sure that the owning of cats should really be allowed unless they are kept in. Songbirds are in massive decline and cats play a very significant role in this....what do people need them for? Other less murderous pets are available.... Plenty of dog owners let them shit wherever they please, hence the dog shit on the footpath. The thing is, I don't want another available pet. I want a cat, I have one and will always have one. . I don't get any dogs shitting in MY garden because they are responsible and keep them in their own ! You should have a cat if you want one but keep it for yourself don't but one for the benefit of your neighbours I get some dogs shitting in my garden. They're obviously not as responsible as the ones in your neighborhood. Cats tend to do their business in soil and cover it up whereas dogs will do it anywhere. Was it you who stepped on cat shit whilst walking to your car? I find that surprising as it's never happened me. Probably because your cat shits in everyone else's garden other than its own , they normally do ! And yes I'm surrounded by lots of soil surprisingly No, I walk on concrete to get to my car
So do I but I'm afraid I couldn't afford to concrete 2 acres of garden "Oh right, I thought you said you had to walk on soil to get to your car. Very unusual to have cat shit on concrete. | |||
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"So now you're putting sick animals out of their misery? Keep changing your argument and suggesting what I might do with a sick rabbit is a clear avoidance technique. Couple this with your argument based on your personal experience walking to work (!?) and this suggests to me that you don't have any real substance behind your ethical choice... Lifted from the previous thread... I listed the reasons that myself and others hunt. Yes shooting a rabbit with myxy is a humane thing to do. Shooting a rabbit or deer can feed people and reduce crop damage, so I am not changing my argument. I walk to the station early in the morning. I see foxes, cats, badgers... There was no avoidance, just curiosity... To go on, myself alone probably doesn't make a lot of difference but when you add together the thousands of people that go hunting it makes a big difference. When the local Laird sent his gamekeepers on to my aunts farm to get rid of the rabbits, they nearly wiped them out. It took a couple of years for them to start being noticeable again. That was two years that certain fields could sustain sheep for longer... So yes it does make a difference. .." It's all slightly moot anyway - if you have ag pests on your land, you are obliged by law to get rid of them (Wildlife and Countryside act, 1984, I believe). Rabbits are one of those. If you don't, and someone reports you, DEFRA will come along and gas them whether you like it or not. | |||
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. I don't live near a farm so I don't need to worry about poultry. I actually think you are very narrow minded and i don't mean to offend you but it is something you seem quite proud of "Very narrow minded? Can you elaborate a little? | |||
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"So now you're putting sick animals out of their misery? Keep changing your argument and suggesting what I might do with a sick rabbit is a clear avoidance technique. Couple this with your argument based on your personal experience walking to work (!?) and this suggests to me that you don't have any real substance behind your ethical choice... Lifted from the previous thread... I listed the reasons that myself and others hunt. Yes shooting a rabbit with myxy is a humane thing to do. Shooting a rabbit or deer can feed people and reduce crop damage, so I am not changing my argument. I walk to the station early in the morning. I see foxes, cats, badgers... There was no avoidance, just curiosity... To go on, myself alone probably doesn't make a lot of difference but when you add together the thousands of people that go hunting it makes a big difference. When the local Laird sent his gamekeepers on to my aunts farm to get rid of the rabbits, they nearly wiped them out. It took a couple of years for them to start being noticeable again. That was two years that certain fields could sustain sheep for longer... So yes it does make a difference. .. . See that that's first hand knowledge not something you've read in ok magazine !
Why would you assume I read OK magazine?? You also made the assumption I didn't live in the countryside!"well you don't really come across as the country sort and I'm not talking about someone who goes to the odd country fair . There's living in the country and being country two completely different things | |||
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. I don't live near a farm so I don't need to worry about poultry. I actually think you are very narrow minded and i don't mean to offend you but it is something you seem quite proud of
Very narrow minded? Can you elaborate a little? "I think your don't give two shits statement said it all | |||
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. I don't live near a farm so I don't need to worry about poultry. I actually think you are very narrow minded and i don't mean to offend you but it is something you seem quite proud of
Very narrow minded? Can you elaborate a little?
I think your don't give two shits statement said it all "Not giving two shits doesn't make you narrow minded. It just means you don't give two shits | |||
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"There's living in the country and being country two completely different things " There's the countryside and then there's the Fens. Two completely different things | |||
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"So now you're putting sick animals out of their misery? Keep changing your argument and suggesting what I might do with a sick rabbit is a clear avoidance technique. Couple this with your argument based on your personal experience walking to work (!?) and this suggests to me that you don't have any real substance behind your ethical choice... Lifted from the previous thread... I listed the reasons that myself and others hunt. Yes shooting a rabbit with myxy is a humane thing to do. Shooting a rabbit or deer can feed people and reduce crop damage, so I am not changing my argument. I walk to the station early in the morning. I see foxes, cats, badgers... There was no avoidance, just curiosity... To go on, myself alone probably doesn't make a lot of difference but when you add together the thousands of people that go hunting it makes a big difference. When the local Laird sent his gamekeepers on to my aunts farm to get rid of the rabbits, they nearly wiped them out. It took a couple of years for them to start being noticeable again. That was two years that certain fields could sustain sheep for longer... So yes it does make a difference. .." Drop in the ocean, rabbits will breed like...er....well....rabbits and you'll have the same problem. You're arguing from your own personal perspective, I'm talking about the balance of nature. | |||
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. I don't live near a farm so I don't need to worry about poultry. I actually think you are very narrow minded and i don't mean to offend you but it is something you seem quite proud of
Very narrow minded? Can you elaborate a little?
I think your don't give two shits statement said it all "That was in response to this comment: "I don't think cat lovers/owners often consider what's it's like to not particularly like cats" | |||
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"Funny how a thread on dogs comes up and lots of people say that too many idiots have dogs, dog licenses should be brought back etc.... And yet anyone can have a cat, and cats do all manner of damage. Imagine the furore if I let my dogs shit in other peoples' back gardens..... Plenty of dogs shit on the footpath which is annoying. At least dog owners don't turn them out to kill stuff and shit wherever they please. I'm not sure that the owning of cats should really be allowed unless they are kept in. Songbirds are in massive decline and cats play a very significant role in this....what do people need them for? Other less murderous pets are available.... Plenty of dog owners let them shit wherever they please, hence the dog shit on the footpath. The thing is, I don't want another available pet. I want a cat, I have one and will always have one. . I don't get any dogs shitting in MY garden because they are responsible and keep them in their own ! You should have a cat if you want one but keep it for yourself don't but one for the benefit of your neighbours I get some dogs shitting in my garden. They're obviously not as responsible as the ones in your neighborhood. Cats tend to do their business in soil and cover it up whereas dogs will do it anywhere. Was it you who stepped on cat shit whilst walking to your car? I find that surprising as it's never happened me. Probably because your cat shits in everyone else's garden other than its own , they normally do ! And yes I'm surrounded by lots of soil surprisingly No, I walk on concrete to get to my car
So do I but I'm afraid I couldn't afford to concrete 2 acres of garden
Oh right, I thought you said you had to walk on soil to get to your car. Very unusual to have cat shit on concrete. "well have you considered that I may do something other than walk directly to my Car maybe I might take a stroll to the bottom of the garden ever considered that .? No ? You know my garden which I've paid for which is my property that I don't particularly want covering in cat shit .. It would be so bad but cat shit is vile ! I really don't understand why most cat owners can't see why it's inconsiderate to let them do what they do | |||
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. " Oooh big man eh 
This whole thread is fucking ridiculous.
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"So now you're putting sick animals out of their misery? Keep changing your argument and suggesting what I might do with a sick rabbit is a clear avoidance technique. Couple this with your argument based on your personal experience walking to work (!?) and this suggests to me that you don't have any real substance behind your ethical choice... Lifted from the previous thread... I listed the reasons that myself and others hunt. Yes shooting a rabbit with myxy is a humane thing to do. Shooting a rabbit or deer can feed people and reduce crop damage, so I am not changing my argument. I walk to the station early in the morning. I see foxes, cats, badgers... There was no avoidance, just curiosity... To go on, myself alone probably doesn't make a lot of difference but when you add together the thousands of people that go hunting it makes a big difference. When the local Laird sent his gamekeepers on to my aunts farm to get rid of the rabbits, they nearly wiped them out. It took a couple of years for them to start being noticeable again. That was two years that certain fields could sustain sheep for longer... So yes it does make a difference. .. . See that that's first hand knowledge not something you've read in ok magazine !
Why would you assume I read OK magazine?? You also made the assumption I didn't live in the countryside!
well you don't really come across as the country sort and I'm not talking about someone who goes to the odd country fair . There's living in the country and being country two completely different things "And yet here here are typing away on the internet.... | |||
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"So now you're putting sick animals out of their misery? Keep changing your argument and suggesting what I might do with a sick rabbit is a clear avoidance technique. Couple this with your argument based on your personal experience walking to work (!?) and this suggests to me that you don't have any real substance behind your ethical choice... Lifted from the previous thread... I listed the reasons that myself and others hunt. Yes shooting a rabbit with myxy is a humane thing to do. Shooting a rabbit or deer can feed people and reduce crop damage, so I am not changing my argument. I walk to the station early in the morning. I see foxes, cats, badgers... There was no avoidance, just curiosity... To go on, myself alone probably doesn't make a lot of difference but when you add together the thousands of people that go hunting it makes a big difference. When the local Laird sent his gamekeepers on to my aunts farm to get rid of the rabbits, they nearly wiped them out. It took a couple of years for them to start being noticeable again. That was two years that certain fields could sustain sheep for longer... So yes it does make a difference. .. Drop in the ocean, rabbits will breed like...er....well....rabbits and you'll have the same problem. You're arguing from your own personal perspective, I'm talking about the balance of nature." I've never seen a dead one fucking yet | |||
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"Funny how a thread on dogs comes up and lots of people say that too many idiots have dogs, dog licenses should be brought back etc.... And yet anyone can have a cat, and cats do all manner of damage. Imagine the furore if I let my dogs shit in other peoples' back gardens..... Plenty of dogs shit on the footpath which is annoying. At least dog owners don't turn them out to kill stuff and shit wherever they please. I'm not sure that the owning of cats should really be allowed unless they are kept in. Songbirds are in massive decline and cats play a very significant role in this....what do people need them for? Other less murderous pets are available.... Plenty of dog owners let them shit wherever they please, hence the dog shit on the footpath. The thing is, I don't want another available pet. I want a cat, I have one and will always have one. . I don't get any dogs shitting in MY garden because they are responsible and keep them in their own ! You should have a cat if you want one but keep it for yourself don't but one for the benefit of your neighbours I get some dogs shitting in my garden. They're obviously not as responsible as the ones in your neighborhood. Cats tend to do their business in soil and cover it up whereas dogs will do it anywhere. Was it you who stepped on cat shit whilst walking to your car? I find that surprising as it's never happened me. Probably because your cat shits in everyone else's garden other than its own , they normally do ! And yes I'm surrounded by lots of soil surprisingly No, I walk on concrete to get to my car
So do I but I'm afraid I couldn't afford to concrete 2 acres of garden
Oh right, I thought you said you had to walk on soil to get to your car. Very unusual to have cat shit on concrete. well have you considered that I may do something other than walk directly to my
Car maybe I might take a stroll to the bottom of the garden ever considered that .? No ? You know my garden which I've paid for which is my property that I don't particularly want covering in cat shit .. It would be so bad but cat shit is vile ! I really don't understand why most cat owners can't see why it's inconsiderate to let them do what they do "Well no I didn't consider it, because I'm not a mind reader, but thanks for clearing that up. | |||
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"So now you're putting sick animals out of their misery? Keep changing your argument and suggesting what I might do with a sick rabbit is a clear avoidance technique. Couple this with your argument based on your personal experience walking to work (!?) and this suggests to me that you don't have any real substance behind your ethical choice... Lifted from the previous thread... I listed the reasons that myself and others hunt. Yes shooting a rabbit with myxy is a humane thing to do. Shooting a rabbit or deer can feed people and reduce crop damage, so I am not changing my argument. I walk to the station early in the morning. I see foxes, cats, badgers... There was no avoidance, just curiosity... To go on, myself alone probably doesn't make a lot of difference but when you add together the thousands of people that go hunting it makes a big difference. When the local Laird sent his gamekeepers on to my aunts farm to get rid of the rabbits, they nearly wiped them out. It took a couple of years for them to start being noticeable again. That was two years that certain fields could sustain sheep for longer... So yes it does make a difference. .. Drop in the ocean, rabbits will breed like...er....well....rabbits and you'll have the same problem. You're arguing from your own personal perspective, I'm talking about the balance of nature. I've never seen a dead one fucking yet " Well I can't argue against that logic! Does that mean rabbits are now extinct? | |||
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"So now you're putting sick animals out of their misery? Keep changing your argument and suggesting what I might do with a sick rabbit is a clear avoidance technique. Couple this with your argument based on your personal experience walking to work (!?) and this suggests to me that you don't have any real substance behind your ethical choice... Lifted from the previous thread... I listed the reasons that myself and others hunt. Yes shooting a rabbit with myxy is a humane thing to do. Shooting a rabbit or deer can feed people and reduce crop damage, so I am not changing my argument. I walk to the station early in the morning. I see foxes, cats, badgers... There was no avoidance, just curiosity... To go on, myself alone probably doesn't make a lot of difference but when you add together the thousands of people that go hunting it makes a big difference. When the local Laird sent his gamekeepers on to my aunts farm to get rid of the rabbits, they nearly wiped them out. It took a couple of years for them to start being noticeable again. That was two years that certain fields could sustain sheep for longer... So yes it does make a difference. .. . See that that's first hand knowledge not something you've read in ok magazine !
Why would you assume I read OK magazine?? You also made the assumption I didn't live in the countryside!
well you don't really come across as the country sort and I'm not talking about someone who goes to the odd country fair . There's living in the country and being country two completely different things
And yet here here are typing away on the internet...."Quite clearly he is lying about his life. Everyone knows there is no Internet outside of big towns where the cleaver people live... | |||
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"So now you're putting sick animals out of their misery? Keep changing your argument and suggesting what I might do with a sick rabbit is a clear avoidance technique. Couple this with your argument based on your personal experience walking to work (!?) and this suggests to me that you don't have any real substance behind your ethical choice... Lifted from the previous thread... I listed the reasons that myself and others hunt. Yes shooting a rabbit with myxy is a humane thing to do. Shooting a rabbit or deer can feed people and reduce crop damage, so I am not changing my argument. I walk to the station early in the morning. I see foxes, cats, badgers... There was no avoidance, just curiosity... To go on, myself alone probably doesn't make a lot of difference but when you add together the thousands of people that go hunting it makes a big difference. When the local Laird sent his gamekeepers on to my aunts farm to get rid of the rabbits, they nearly wiped them out. It took a couple of years for them to start being noticeable again. That was two years that certain fields could sustain sheep for longer... So yes it does make a difference. .. . See that that's first hand knowledge not something you've read in ok magazine !
Why would you assume I read OK magazine?? You also made the assumption I didn't live in the countryside!
well you don't really come across as the country sort and I'm not talking about someone who goes to the odd country fair . There's living in the country and being country two completely different things
And yet here here are typing away on the internet....
Quite clearly he is lying about his life. Everyone knows there is no Internet outside of big towns where the cleaver people live... "Irony not your strong point is it? :/ | |||
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"So now you're putting sick animals out of their misery? Keep changing your argument and suggesting what I might do with a sick rabbit is a clear avoidance technique. Couple this with your argument based on your personal experience walking to work (!?) and this suggests to me that you don't have any real substance behind your ethical choice... Lifted from the previous thread... I listed the reasons that myself and others hunt. Yes shooting a rabbit with myxy is a humane thing to do. Shooting a rabbit or deer can feed people and reduce crop damage, so I am not changing my argument. I walk to the station early in the morning. I see foxes, cats, badgers... There was no avoidance, just curiosity... To go on, myself alone probably doesn't make a lot of difference but when you add together the thousands of people that go hunting it makes a big difference. When the local Laird sent his gamekeepers on to my aunts farm to get rid of the rabbits, they nearly wiped them out. It took a couple of years for them to start being noticeable again. That was two years that certain fields could sustain sheep for longer... So yes it does make a difference. .. . See that that's first hand knowledge not something you've read in ok magazine !
Why would you assume I read OK magazine?? You also made the assumption I didn't live in the countryside!
well you don't really come across as the country sort and I'm not talking about someone who goes to the odd country fair . There's living in the country and being country two completely different things
And yet here here are typing away on the internet...."I keep trying to go but I find your ignorance quite appealing .. I don't really know how Ive got the Internet I've got to go soon because my candles about to burn out . At the end of the day I've more respect for someone who is willing to shoot something skin it, gut it, butcher it and eat it than walk down to tescos in his toms and buy some polystyrene contained minced up shit . | |||
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"So now you're putting sick animals out of their misery? Keep changing your argument and suggesting what I might do with a sick rabbit is a clear avoidance technique. Couple this with your argument based on your personal experience walking to work (!?) and this suggests to me that you don't have any real substance behind your ethical choice... Lifted from the previous thread... I listed the reasons that myself and others hunt. Yes shooting a rabbit with myxy is a humane thing to do. Shooting a rabbit or deer can feed people and reduce crop damage, so I am not changing my argument. I walk to the station early in the morning. I see foxes, cats, badgers... There was no avoidance, just curiosity... To go on, myself alone probably doesn't make a lot of difference but when you add together the thousands of people that go hunting it makes a big difference. When the local Laird sent his gamekeepers on to my aunts farm to get rid of the rabbits, they nearly wiped them out. It took a couple of years for them to start being noticeable again. That was two years that certain fields could sustain sheep for longer... So yes it does make a difference. .. . See that that's first hand knowledge not something you've read in ok magazine !
Why would you assume I read OK magazine?? You also made the assumption I didn't live in the countryside!
well you don't really come across as the country sort and I'm not talking about someone who goes to the odd country fair . There's living in the country and being country two completely different things
And yet here here are typing away on the internet....
I keep trying to go but I find your ignorance quite appealing ..
I don't really know how Ive got the Internet I've got to go soon because my candles about to burn out .
At the end of the day I've more respect for someone who is willing to shoot something skin it, gut it, butcher it and eat it than walk down to tescos in his toms and buy some polystyrene contained minced up shit . "If I was being ignorant I would be ignoring you.... | |||
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"So now you're putting sick animals out of their misery? Keep changing your argument and suggesting what I might do with a sick rabbit is a clear avoidance technique. Couple this with your argument based on your personal experience walking to work (!?) and this suggests to me that you don't have any real substance behind your ethical choice... Lifted from the previous thread... I listed the reasons that myself and others hunt. Yes shooting a rabbit with myxy is a humane thing to do. Shooting a rabbit or deer can feed people and reduce crop damage, so I am not changing my argument. I walk to the station early in the morning. I see foxes, cats, badgers... There was no avoidance, just curiosity... To go on, myself alone probably doesn't make a lot of difference but when you add together the thousands of people that go hunting it makes a big difference. When the local Laird sent his gamekeepers on to my aunts farm to get rid of the rabbits, they nearly wiped them out. It took a couple of years for them to start being noticeable again. That was two years that certain fields could sustain sheep for longer... So yes it does make a difference. .. Drop in the ocean, rabbits will breed like...er....well....rabbits and you'll have the same problem. You're arguing from your own personal perspective, I'm talking about the balance of nature." So your answer is to do nothing... That will help the farmers and land owners... 
Rabbits are not native to the UK, so nature is already out of balance....
You can add mink, parakeets, canaries, doves, Chinese water deer, muntjac deer, grey squirrels, signal crayfish amongst others to the list. They have been introduced by accident or maliciously to the country.
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. Oooh big man eh
This whole thread is fucking ridiculous.
If you don't like cats that's fair enough but to say you are going to kill any that encroach on your space is quite frankly pathetic. "Why? I'd kill rats if I had them (or when I get them, to be more accurate because you can't have poultry and not see a rat every now and then). Their owners clealry can't give a monkeys about their wellbeing because they turn them out to cause all the damage that they do. | |||
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. I don't live near a farm so I don't need to worry about poultry. I actually think you are very narrow minded and i don't mean to offend you but it is something you seem quite proud of
Very narrow minded? Can you elaborate a little?
I think your don't give two shits statement said it all
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. Oooh big man eh
This whole thread is fucking ridiculous.
If you don't like cats that's fair enough but to say you are going to kill any that encroach on your space is quite frankly pathetic.
Why? I'd kill rats if I had them (or when I get them, to be more accurate because you can't have poultry and not see a rat every now and then). Their owners clealry can't give a monkeys about their wellbeing because they turn them out to cause all the damage that they do. "If you can't determine between a domesticated animal and vermin perhaps you shouldn't be allowed any animals? Why is is OK for you to kill animals but not the cats? They are probably helping control your vermin problem. If keeping poultry is causing you to have rats which cats like to hunt are you guilty of entrapment....enticing the cats onto your property so you can whip your gun out and get a kick out of killing something? | |||
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. Oooh big man eh
This whole thread is fucking ridiculous.
If you don't like cats that's fair enough but to say you are going to kill any that encroach on your space is quite frankly pathetic.
Why? I'd kill rats if I had them (or when I get them, to be more accurate because you can't have poultry and not see a rat every now and then). Their owners clealry can't give a monkeys about their wellbeing because they turn them out to cause all the damage that they do.
If you can't determine between a domesticated animal and vermin perhaps you shouldn't be allowed any animals?
Why is is OK for you to kill animals but not the cats? They are probably helping control your vermin problem. If keeping poultry is causing you to have rats which cats like to hunt are you guilty of entrapment....enticing the cats onto your property so you can whip your gun out and get a kick out of killing something? "The cat isn't my domesticated animal though is it? Dogs kill rats too, so I'll just stick mine in someone elses garden for a bit shall I? Claim perhaps I'm doing them some kind of favour. Cats also kill poultry, so why shouldn't I shoot any I see near mine? Like I said, I used to catch them and give them back with a warning, but the attitude of some cat owners on here has made me think that I'm probably just wasting my time. I view it similarly to loose dogs in my sheep fields and we all know where the law stands on sheep worrying.... | |||
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"Deal but just remember when this country all goes to shit because some crazy bastard has blown up the national grid etc it's gonna be you asking people like me to provide you with a meal because waitrose has been ransacked" ... I will be claiming Waitress or M&S as mine... | |||
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"Deal but just remember when this country all goes to shit because some crazy bastard has blown up the national grid etc it's gonna be you asking people like me to provide you with a meal because waitrose has been ransacked" I don't mind rabbit every now and then but I think I'll be quite happy with all the venison wandering around here come armageddon.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cQNkIrg-Tk | |||
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. Oooh big man eh
This whole thread is fucking ridiculous.
If you don't like cats that's fair enough but to say you are going to kill any that encroach on your space is quite frankly pathetic. "Anyone who kills animals or threatens to kill animals is a pathetic weak individual. Hunting is vile. | |||
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"Well I agree that we won't agree on this so that enough for me..... "
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. Oooh big man eh
This whole thread is fucking ridiculous.
If you don't like cats that's fair enough but to say you are going to kill any that encroach on your space is quite frankly pathetic.
Anyone who kills animals or threatens to kill animals is a pathetic weak individual. Hunting is vile. "How about owning an animal that kills and tortures other animals?
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. Oooh big man eh
This whole thread is fucking ridiculous.
If you don't like cats that's fair enough but to say you are going to kill any that encroach on your space is quite frankly pathetic.
Anyone who kills animals or threatens to kill animals is a pathetic weak individual. Hunting is vile. "So you are a vegetarian then? | |||
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. Oooh big man eh
This whole thread is fucking ridiculous.
If you don't like cats that's fair enough but to say you are going to kill any that encroach on your space is quite frankly pathetic.
Anyone who kills animals or threatens to kill animals is a pathetic weak individual. Hunting is vile. "I'm not against things like hunting or population control culls....I live in the country a d understand that these things are necessary but find people trying to look like Billy big Bollocks because they've got a gun and want to use it illegally to kill someone's pet more than tad pathetic. | |||
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. Oooh big man eh
This whole thread is fucking ridiculous.
If you don't like cats that's fair enough but to say you are going to kill any that encroach on your space is quite frankly pathetic.
Anyone who kills animals or threatens to kill animals is a pathetic weak individual. Hunting is vile.
So you are a vegetarian then?"Must be a vegan, because any fule kno' that the dairy industry and the beef industry are one and the same (in fact, I feel more uneasy about the dairy industry - although sexed semen may be putting an end to that)? | |||
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. Oooh big man eh
This whole thread is fucking ridiculous.
If you don't like cats that's fair enough but to say you are going to kill any that encroach on your space is quite frankly pathetic.
Anyone who kills animals or threatens to kill animals is a pathetic weak individual. Hunting is vile.
I'm not against things like hunting or population control culls....I live in the country a d understand that these things are necessary but find people trying to look like Billy big Bollocks because they've got a gun and want to use it illegally to kill someone's pet more than tad pathetic. "Illegally? It;s not illegal. Nor would it be illegal for me to shoot a dog that was killing my lambs. I don't want to do either, and I have never done either, but I certain'y lose lambs to dogs every year, and I'm sure were it not for the joy of electric fences, I'd lose polutry to cats - the only difference is I'm suppposed to tolerate the cats, because their owners don't give a fuck, apparently. | |||
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"Domestic cats are protected by law and it is an offence to trap, injure or kill them. The welfare of cats must not be ignored. Remember that cats, even if they are unwelcome in your garden, may be someone's much-loved pets, perhaps of a child or elderly person living alone. Some people have called for legislation introduced to curb the freedom with which cats are allowed to roam. While we understand why people feel this way, we are not able to urge the government to introduce such legislation, as we have no scientific evidence of the impact of cat predation on bird populations that is strong enough to support such a call. Taken from the RSPB website. " Until they worry livestock, of course. Then it is perfectly legal. | |||
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"Domestic cats are protected by law and it is an offence to trap, injure or kill them. The welfare of cats must not be ignored. Remember that cats, even if they are unwelcome in your garden, may be someone's much-loved pets, perhaps of a child or elderly person living alone. Some people have called for legislation introduced to curb the freedom with which cats are allowed to roam. While we understand why people feel this way, we are not able to urge the government to introduce such legislation, as we have no scientific evidence of the impact of cat predation on bird populations that is strong enough to support such a call. Taken from the RSPB website. Until they worry livestock, of course. Then it is perfectly legal. " Really? What legislation? I'm not against being educated and if I'm wrong admitting so. | |||
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. Oooh big man eh
This whole thread is fucking ridiculous.
If you don't like cats that's fair enough but to say you are going to kill any that encroach on your space is quite frankly pathetic.
Anyone who kills animals or threatens to kill animals is a pathetic weak individual. Hunting is vile.
I'm not against things like hunting or population control culls....I live in the country a d understand that these things are necessary but find people trying to look like Billy big Bollocks because they've got a gun and want to use it illegally to kill someone's pet more than tad pathetic.
Illegally?
It;s not illegal. Nor would it be illegal for me to shoot a dog that was killing my lambs. I don't want to do either, and I have never done either, but I certain'y lose lambs to dogs every year, and I'm sure were it not for the joy of electric fences, I'd lose polutry to cats - the only difference is I'm suppposed to tolerate the cats, because their owners don't give a fuck, apparently. "But you said the owners of the cats you returned did give a fuck, no? | |||
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"Domestic cats are protected by law and it is an offence to trap, injure or kill them. The welfare of cats must not be ignored. Remember that cats, even if they are unwelcome in your garden, may be someone's much-loved pets, perhaps of a child or elderly person living alone. Some people have called for legislation introduced to curb the freedom with which cats are allowed to roam. While we understand why people feel this way, we are not able to urge the government to introduce such legislation, as we have no scientific evidence of the impact of cat predation on bird populations that is strong enough to support such a call. Taken from the RSPB website. Until they worry livestock, of course. Then it is perfectly legal. Really? What legislation? I'm not against being educated and if I'm wrong admitting so. " As I understand it, I could shoot feral cats that are worying livestock. The legal definition if "feral" is pretty loose. In reality, I imagine people would just bury them and not tell anyone. | |||
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"No, it was horrible
My apologies, it was meant as a light hearted quip and then people started getting personal.
I didn't intend to take over the last one but I can at least argue my corner rationally...
The strange thing is I put a similar comment on a thread about homeless people and not one person protested...
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"Domestic cats are protected by law and it is an offence to trap, injure or kill them. The welfare of cats must not be ignored. Remember that cats, even if they are unwelcome in your garden, may be someone's much-loved pets, perhaps of a child or elderly person living alone. Some people have called for legislation introduced to curb the freedom with which cats are allowed to roam. While we understand why people feel this way, we are not able to urge the government to introduce such legislation, as we have no scientific evidence of the impact of cat predation on bird populations that is strong enough to support such a call. Taken from the RSPB website. " How are you supposed to stop a cat from roaming? You're only allowed a certain height for fencing around your garden. | |||
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"Domestic cats are protected by law and it is an offence to trap, injure or kill them. The welfare of cats must not be ignored. Remember that cats, even if they are unwelcome in your garden, may be someone's much-loved pets, perhaps of a child or elderly person living alone. Some people have called for legislation introduced to curb the freedom with which cats are allowed to roam. While we understand why people feel this way, we are not able to urge the government to introduce such legislation, as we have no scientific evidence of the impact of cat predation on bird populations that is strong enough to support such a call. Taken from the RSPB website. Until they worry livestock, of course. Then it is perfectly legal. Really? What legislation? I'm not against being educated and if I'm wrong admitting so. As I understand it, I could shoot feral cats that are worying livestock. The legal definition if "feral" is pretty loose. In reality, I imagine people would just bury them and not tell anyone. " Ah, so now we are back tracking slightly aren't we. So it is legal to kill a feral cat but not Mrs Jones' from 3 doors down, who you know because you have so kindly caught and returned dear fluffykins previous to reading all the terrible pro cat propaganda on this thread. So I put it again, you're admitting to wanting to wilfully break the law to make yourself look like the big man on campus. | |||
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"Domestic cats are protected by law and it is an offence to trap, injure or kill them. The welfare of cats must not be ignored. Remember that cats, even if they are unwelcome in your garden, may be someone's much-loved pets, perhaps of a child or elderly person living alone. Some people have called for legislation introduced to curb the freedom with which cats are allowed to roam. While we understand why people feel this way, we are not able to urge the government to introduce such legislation, as we have no scientific evidence of the impact of cat predation on bird populations that is strong enough to support such a call. Taken from the RSPB website. How are you supposed to stop a cat from roaming? You're only allowed a certain height for fencing around your garden. " I think the theory is, or at least what I am getting from this thread, that cats should be treated like dogs and kept indoors and on a lead when out | |||
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"Domestic cats are protected by law and it is an offence to trap, injure or kill them. The welfare of cats must not be ignored. Remember that cats, even if they are unwelcome in your garden, may be someone's much-loved pets, perhaps of a child or elderly person living alone. Some people have called for legislation introduced to curb the freedom with which cats are allowed to roam. While we understand why people feel this way, we are not able to urge the government to introduce such legislation, as we have no scientific evidence of the impact of cat predation on bird populations that is strong enough to support such a call. Taken from the RSPB website. Until they worry livestock, of course. Then it is perfectly legal. Really? What legislation? I'm not against being educated and if I'm wrong admitting so. As I understand it, I could shoot feral cats that are worying livestock. The legal definition if "feral" is pretty loose. In reality, I imagine people would just bury them and not tell anyone. Ah, so now we are back tracking slightly aren't we. So it is legal to kill a feral cat but not Mrs Jones' from 3 doors down, who you know because you have so kindly caught and returned dear fluffykins previous to reading all the terrible pro cat propaganda on this thread. So I put it again, you're admitting to wanting to wilfully break the law to make yourself look like the big man on campus. " Not really. I said that I'd no more want to shoot a cat than I would to shoot a dog that was worrying sheep. But, it would appear that whilst most dog owners would be mortified of their dog got away from them and started killing sheep, most cat owners seem not to know where their cat is/don't care about turining it out to do whatever. If somebody shoots your cat whilst it is on their land, sirely it is your fault because you failed to control your animal? | |||
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"Domestic cats are protected by law and it is an offence to trap, injure or kill them. The welfare of cats must not be ignored. Remember that cats, even if they are unwelcome in your garden, may be someone's much-loved pets, perhaps of a child or elderly person living alone. Some people have called for legislation introduced to curb the freedom with which cats are allowed to roam. While we understand why people feel this way, we are not able to urge the government to introduce such legislation, as we have no scientific evidence of the impact of cat predation on bird populations that is strong enough to support such a call. Taken from the RSPB website. How are you supposed to stop a cat from roaming? You're only allowed a certain height for fencing around your garden. I think the theory is, or at least what I am getting from this thread, that cats should be treated like dogs and kept indoors and on a lead when out" They should be kept on your property like every other domestic animal. Keeping them in is your problem, you want to own one. | |||
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"Domestic cats are protected by law and it is an offence to trap, injure or kill them. The welfare of cats must not be ignored. Remember that cats, even if they are unwelcome in your garden, may be someone's much-loved pets, perhaps of a child or elderly person living alone. Some people have called for legislation introduced to curb the freedom with which cats are allowed to roam. While we understand why people feel this way, we are not able to urge the government to introduce such legislation, as we have no scientific evidence of the impact of cat predation on bird populations that is strong enough to support such a call. Taken from the RSPB website. Until they worry livestock, of course. Then it is perfectly legal. Really? What legislation? I'm not against being educated and if I'm wrong admitting so. As I understand it, I could shoot feral cats that are worying livestock. The legal definition if "feral" is pretty loose. In reality, I imagine people would just bury them and not tell anyone. Ah, so now we are back tracking slightly aren't we. So it is legal to kill a feral cat but not Mrs Jones' from 3 doors down, who you know because you have so kindly caught and returned dear fluffykins previous to reading all the terrible pro cat propaganda on this thread. So I put it again, you're admitting to wanting to wilfully break the law to make yourself look like the big man on campus. Not really. I said that I'd no more want to shoot a cat than I would to shoot a dog that was worrying sheep. But, it would appear that whilst most dog owners would be mortified of their dog got away from them and started killing sheep, most cat owners seem not to know where their cat is/don't care about turining it out to do whatever. If somebody shoots your cat whilst it is on their land, sirely it is your fault because you failed to control your animal? " But I am not required to control a cat. Under law cats have the right to roam and so I am not breaking any law by turning my cat out and letting them go where they wish. If I was made aware that my cat was responsible for killing someone's chickens or birds or whatever I would offer to replace them cos I'm nice like that. You clearly stated that you were of the mind set to no longer catch and return your neighbours cats and that you would get your 12 bore out and shoot them. We have established now that this would be illegal because they are a domestic pet and not a feral cat. | |||
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"Domestic cats are protected by law and it is an offence to trap, injure or kill them. The welfare of cats must not be ignored. Remember that cats, even if they are unwelcome in your garden, may be someone's much-loved pets, perhaps of a child or elderly person living alone. Some people have called for legislation introduced to curb the freedom with which cats are allowed to roam. While we understand why people feel this way, we are not able to urge the government to introduce such legislation, as we have no scientific evidence of the impact of cat predation on bird populations that is strong enough to support such a call. Taken from the RSPB website. How are you supposed to stop a cat from roaming? You're only allowed a certain height for fencing around your garden. I think the theory is, or at least what I am getting from this thread, that cats should be treated like dogs and kept indoors and on a lead when out They should be kept on your property like every other domestic animal. Keeping them in is your problem, you want to own one. " But we don't have to and the rspb as one organisation don't support such a call either | |||
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. " Just incase you needed reminding. This is what you posted about shooting cats. | |||
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"Domestic cats are protected by law and it is an offence to trap, injure or kill them. The welfare of cats must not be ignored. Remember that cats, even if they are unwelcome in your garden, may be someone's much-loved pets, perhaps of a child or elderly person living alone. Some people have called for legislation introduced to curb the freedom with which cats are allowed to roam. While we understand why people feel this way, we are not able to urge the government to introduce such legislation, as we have no scientific evidence of the impact of cat predation on bird populations that is strong enough to support such a call. Taken from the RSPB website. How are you supposed to stop a cat from roaming? You're only allowed a certain height for fencing around your garden. I think the theory is, or at least what I am getting from this thread, that cats should be treated like dogs and kept indoors and on a lead when out They should be kept on your property like every other domestic animal. Keeping them in is your problem, you want to own one. But we don't have to and the rspb as one organisation don't support such a call either" So basically. what you are saying is: Fuck you,I don't care that I let my pet out to kill your animals and shit all over your property. Thanks for clarifying. | |||
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. Just incase you needed reminding. This is what you posted about shooting cats. " I know. I wrote it. "Half-tempted not to bother trying to be nice" (Because cat owners simply don't give a fuck). And you vinidicated my suspicions. | |||
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. Just incase you needed reminding. This is what you posted about shooting cats. I know. I wrote it. "Half-tempted not to bother trying to be nice" (Because cat owners simply don't give a fuck). And you vinidicated my suspicions. " Oh right.....half tempted m she's it all better! I said I'd replace any animals that were proven to be killed by my cats, that's quite nice of me isn't it? The fact that I the 16 years of owning said cats they have only bought home wild animals goes some way to suggest that cats are not that much of a worry to livestock. You're just pissed because I don't agree with you and said I thought you were pathetic for wanting to shoot pets. | |||
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. Just incase you needed reminding. This is what you posted about shooting cats. I know. I wrote it. "Half-tempted not to bother trying to be nice" (Because cat owners simply don't give a fuck). And you vinidicated my suspicions. Oh right.....half tempted m she's it all better! I said I'd replace any animals that were proven to be killed by my cats, that's quite nice of me isn't it? The fact that I the 16 years of owning said cats they have only bought home wild animals goes some way to suggest that cats are not that much of a worry to livestock. You're just pissed because I don't agree with you and said I thought you were pathetic for wanting to shoot pets. " "want" to? You clearly can't read or are hard of thinking if you can't tell the difference between "half tempted" and "wants to" I'd even stated previously that I haven't shot any and that I have given them back in the past, but its attitudes like yours that make me think I'm too soft. | |||
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"Domestic cats are protected by law and it is an offence to trap, injure or kill them. The welfare of cats must not be ignored. Remember that cats, even if they are unwelcome in your garden, may be someone's much-loved pets, perhaps of a child or elderly person living alone. Some people have called for legislation introduced to curb the freedom with which cats are allowed to roam. While we understand why people feel this way, we are not able to urge the government to introduce such legislation, as we have no scientific evidence of the impact of cat predation on bird populations that is strong enough to support such a call. Taken from the RSPB website. How are you supposed to stop a cat from roaming? You're only allowed a certain height for fencing around your garden. I think the theory is, or at least what I am getting from this thread, that cats should be treated like dogs and kept indoors and on a lead when out They should be kept on your property like every other domestic animal. Keeping them in is your problem, you want to own one. But we don't have to and the rspb as one organisation don't support such a call either So basically. what you are saying is: Fuck you,I don't care that I let my pet out to kill your animals and shit all over your property. Thanks for clarifying. " Just for clarification.....how many of your livestock have you lost to cats over the years? I've not seen any discussion of this yet. | |||
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. Just incase you needed reminding. This is what you posted about shooting cats. I know. I wrote it. "Half-tempted not to bother trying to be nice" (Because cat owners simply don't give a fuck). And you vinidicated my suspicions. Oh right.....half tempted m she's it all better! I said I'd replace any animals that were proven to be killed by my cats, that's quite nice of me isn't it? The fact that I the 16 years of owning said cats they have only bought home wild animals goes some way to suggest that cats are not that much of a worry to livestock. You're just pissed because I don't agree with you and said I thought you were pathetic for wanting to shoot pets. "want" to? You clearly can't read or are hard of thinking if you can't tell the difference between "half tempted" and "wants to" I'd even stated previously that I haven't shot any and that I have given them back in the past, but its attitudes like yours that make me think I'm too soft. " Ahhh but you clearly think murderous cat thoughts and have the equipment to hand....do you not think that's a dangerous combination? is there going to be a curious journalist on the case of the sudden disappearance of moggies within a 5 mile radius of your estate lol | |||
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"To be honest, I don't have much faith in the RSPCA or the RSPB. They have both contradicted themselves in the past and even gone against their own advice when it suits them... I had the RSPCA bring along a farmer to look at my pigs. The farmer said that they were Ill tempered and dangerous, under fed and that he would take them for their well-being... Luckily for me the DEFRA vet examined them and said they were well looked after, friendly and some of the best condition pigs she had seen. Quite clearly the RSPCA are using people who are fraudulently taking animals for their own gain. They are supposed to be the experts..." Theres a whole website about the RSPCA, but that might be for a different thread. The thing to remember is that they have no authority whatsoever and it is Animal Health who are the regulatory body (possibly on behalf of DEFRA). The RSPB have an agenda too - they are a charity and are not going to risk pissing off donators. They don't really seem much interested in songbirds, raptors are their thing. | |||
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"To be honest, I don't have much faith in the RSPCA or the RSPB. They have both contradicted themselves in the past and even gone against their own advice when it suits them... I had the RSPCA bring along a farmer to look at my pigs. The farmer said that they were Ill tempered and dangerous, under fed and that he would take them for their well-being... Luckily for me the DEFRA vet examined them and said they were well looked after, friendly and some of the best condition pigs she had seen. Quite clearly the RSPCA are using people who are fraudulently taking animals for their own gain. They are supposed to be the experts... Theres a whole website about the RSPCA, but that might be for a different thread. The thing to remember is that they have no authority whatsoever and it is Animal Health who are the regulatory body (possibly on behalf of DEFRA). The RSPB have an agenda too - they are a charity and are not going to risk pissing off donators. They don't really seem much interested in songbirds, raptors are their thing. " That will be why their logo is an eagle right?! Oh wait. It's not? Curious. Is it tin foil hat time? | |||
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"Domestic cats are protected by law and it is an offence to trap, injure or kill them. The welfare of cats must not be ignored. Remember that cats, even if they are unwelcome in your garden, may be someone's much-loved pets, perhaps of a child or elderly person living alone. Some people have called for legislation introduced to curb the freedom with which cats are allowed to roam. While we understand why people feel this way, we are not able to urge the government to introduce such legislation, as we have no scientific evidence of the impact of cat predation on bird populations that is strong enough to support such a call. Taken from the RSPB website. How are you supposed to stop a cat from roaming? You're only allowed a certain height for fencing around your garden. I think the theory is, or at least what I am getting from this thread, that cats should be treated like dogs and kept indoors and on a lead when out They should be kept on your property like every other domestic animal. Keeping them in is your problem, you want to own one. But we don't have to and the rspb as one organisation don't support such a call either So basically. what you are saying is: Fuck you,I don't care that I let my pet out to kill your animals and shit all over your property. Thanks for clarifying. Just for clarification.....how many of your livestock have you lost to cats over the years? I've not seen any discussion of this yet. " None see: electric fences. Cats are a problem when the chicks are young and small. I can't see them taking a fully grown bird. I've not lost any to foxes either, but I have no doubt that I would. All it needs is the battery to run out and me to somehow forget..... | |||
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"Domestic cats are protected by law and it is an offence to trap, injure or kill them. The welfare of cats must not be ignored. Remember that cats, even if they are unwelcome in your garden, may be someone's much-loved pets, perhaps of a child or elderly person living alone. Some people have called for legislation introduced to curb the freedom with which cats are allowed to roam. While we understand why people feel this way, we are not able to urge the government to introduce such legislation, as we have no scientific evidence of the impact of cat predation on bird populations that is strong enough to support such a call. Taken from the RSPB website. How are you supposed to stop a cat from roaming? You're only allowed a certain height for fencing around your garden. I think the theory is, or at least what I am getting from this thread, that cats should be treated like dogs and kept indoors and on a lead when out They should be kept on your property like every other domestic animal. Keeping them in is your problem, you want to own one. But we don't have to and the rspb as one organisation don't support such a call either So basically. what you are saying is: Fuck you,I don't care that I let my pet out to kill your animals and shit all over your property. Thanks for clarifying. Just for clarification.....how many of your livestock have you lost to cats over the years? I've not seen any discussion of this yet. None see: electric fences. Cats are a problem when the chicks are young and small. I can't see them taking a fully grown bird. I've not lost any to foxes either, but I have no doubt that I would. All it needs is the battery to run out and me to somehow forget....." Thanks for clarifying | |||
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"Although for the record, my cats have bought in a live partridge (I think,didn't have my ornithology book on me at 3am but it was at least as big as them) through the cat flap and into my flat. As a responsible cat owner I returned it to the wild. " Did it flush in one go? | |||
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"Although for the record, my cats have bought in a live partridge (I think,didn't have my ornithology book on me at 3am but it was at least as big as them) through the cat flap and into my flat. As a responsible cat owner I returned it to the wild. " Ah, torture. How adoreable. | |||
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"Although for the record, my cats have bought in a live partridge (I think,didn't have my ornithology book on me at 3am but it was at least as big as them) through the cat flap and into my flat. As a responsible cat owner I returned it to the wild. Ah, torture. How adoreable. " It was unharmed. I checked it over before returning it to the wild to be predated on by something else no doubt. It's the way the world works....food chain and all that jazz. | |||
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"Although for the record, my cats have bought in a live partridge (I think,didn't have my ornithology book on me at 3am but it was at least as big as them) through the cat flap and into my flat. As a responsible cat owner I returned it to the wild. Ah, torture. How adoreable. It was unharmed. I checked it over before returning it to the wild to be predated on by something else no doubt. It's the way the world works....food chain and all that jazz. " I'm sure the whole process caused it little or no stress....
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"Although for the record, my cats have bought in a live partridge (I think,didn't have my ornithology book on me at 3am but it was at least as big as them) through the cat flap and into my flat. As a responsible cat owner I returned it to the wild. Ah, torture. How adoreable. It was unharmed. I checked it over before returning it to the wild to be predated on by something else no doubt. It's the way the world works....food chain and all that jazz. I'm sure the whole process caused it little or no stress....
You get at me for shooting things, but death is pretty bloody swift that way..."Only if you are a crack shot. If not the animal hides away to ensure a slow and painful death. But I'm sure your a modern day John Wayne and all that. | |||
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"Although for the record, my cats have bought in a live partridge (I think,didn't have my ornithology book on me at 3am but it was at least as big as them) through the cat flap and into my flat. As a responsible cat owner I returned it to the wild. Ah, torture. How adoreable. It was unharmed. I checked it over before returning it to the wild to be predated on by something else no doubt. It's the way the world works....food chain and all that jazz. I'm sure the whole process caused it little or no stress....
You get at me for shooting things, but death is pretty bloody swift that way...
Only if you are a crack shot. If not the animal hides away to ensure a slow and painful death. But I'm sure your a modern day John Wayne and all that. "What are you talking about? The only place I've seen things winged is on driven phasant shoots (and usually the dogs get them). I don't do that (although I beat on shoots). Rifle scopes make being a good shot very easy.... | |||
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"Although for the record, my cats have bought in a live partridge (I think,didn't have my ornithology book on me at 3am but it was at least as big as them) through the cat flap and into my flat. As a responsible cat owner I returned it to the wild. Ah, torture. How adoreable. It was unharmed. I checked it over before returning it to the wild to be predated on by something else no doubt. It's the way the world works....food chain and all that jazz. I'm sure the whole process caused it little or no stress....
You get at me for shooting things, but death is pretty bloody swift that way...
Only if you are a crack shot. If not the animal hides away to ensure a slow and painful death. But I'm sure your a modern day John Wayne and all that.
What are you talking about? The only place I've seen things winged is on driven phasant shoots (and usually the dogs get them). I don't do that (although I beat on shoots). Rifle scopes make being a good shot very easy...."Of course it does....how silly of me. Of course every person to ever have shot a rifle has hit their target 100% of the time. Especially moving targets that are fairly agile. It's not like people have to practice or anything. It's clear you want the last word jimi so I shall bow out now as it's late and I have work in the morning. It's been a fun late night discussion I'm sure you'll agree. | |||
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"Shotguns are for moving targets, rifles are for stationary ones. " In back ha And neither of them have a 100% accuracy guarantee. I don't care if you are the Olympic champion with either, on occasion you will miss. | |||
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"Domestic cats are protected by law and it is an offence to trap, injure or kill them. The welfare of cats must not be ignored. Remember that cats, even if they are unwelcome in your garden, may be someone's much-loved pets, perhaps of a child or elderly person living alone. Some people have called for legislation introduced to curb the freedom with which cats are allowed to roam. While we understand why people feel this way, we are not able to urge the government to introduce such legislation, as we have no scientific evidence of the impact of cat predation on bird populations that is strong enough to support such a call. Taken from the RSPB website. How are you supposed to stop a cat from roaming? You're only allowed a certain height for fencing around your garden. I think the theory is, or at least what I am getting from this thread, that cats should be treated like dogs and kept indoors and on a lead when out They should be kept on your property like every other domestic animal. Keeping them in is your problem, you want to own one. " | |||
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"Although for the record, my cats have bought in a live partridge (I think,didn't have my ornithology book on me at 3am but it was at least as big as them) through the cat flap and into my flat. As a responsible cat owner I returned it to the wild. Ah, torture. How adoreable. It was unharmed. I checked it over before returning it to the wild to be predated on by something else no doubt. It's the way the world works....food chain and all that jazz. I'm sure the whole process caused it little or no stress....
You get at me for shooting things, but death is pretty bloody swift that way...
Only if you are a crack shot. If not the animal hides away to ensure a slow and painful death. But I'm sure your a modern day John Wayne and all that.
What are you talking about? The only place I've seen things winged is on driven phasant shoots (and usually the dogs get them). I don't do that (although I beat on shoots). Rifle scopes make being a good shot very easy....
Of course it does....how silly of me. Of course every person to ever have shot a rifle has hit their target 100% of the time. Especially moving targets that are fairly agile. It's not like people have to practice or anything.
It's clear you want the last word jimi so I shall bow out now as it's late and I have work in the morning. It's been a fun late night discussion I'm sure you'll agree. "I would it's pretty clear you know little about shooting | |||
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"Funny how a thread on dogs comes up and lots of people say that too many idiots have dogs, dog licenses should be brought back etc.... And yet anyone can have a cat, and cats do all manner of damage. Imagine the furore if I let my dogs shit in other peoples' back gardens..... Plenty of dogs shit on the footpath which is annoying. At least dog owners don't turn them out to kill stuff and shit wherever they please. I'm not sure that the owning of cats should really be allowed unless they are kept in. Songbirds are in massive decline and cats play a very significant role in this....what do people need them for? Other less murderous pets are available...." Don't be so stupid. | |||
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"The threads about dogs and how people should have licenses usually start as a result of a child having been mauled to death by one. My little furry bastard occasionally eating a pigeon is not really comparable, however much you'd like to make it sound akin to genocide. " Who the fuck are you?!?! | |||
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"Although for the record, my cats have bought in a live partridge (I think,didn't have my ornithology book on me at 3am but it was at least as big as them) through the cat flap and into my flat. As a responsible cat owner I returned it to the wild. Ah, torture. How adoreable. It was unharmed. I checked it over before returning it to the wild to be predated on by something else no doubt. It's the way the world works....food chain and all that jazz. I'm sure the whole process caused it little or no stress....
You get at me for shooting things, but death is pretty bloody swift that way...
Only if you are a crack shot. If not the animal hides away to ensure a slow and painful death. But I'm sure your a modern day John Wayne and all that.
What are you talking about? The only place I've seen things winged is on driven phasant shoots (and usually the dogs get them). I don't do that (although I beat on shoots). Rifle scopes make being a good shot very easy....
Of course it does....how silly of me. Of course every person to ever have shot a rifle has hit their target 100% of the time. Especially moving targets that are fairly agile. It's not like people have to practice or anything.
It's clear you want the last word jimi so I shall bow out now as it's late and I have work in the morning. It's been a fun late night discussion I'm sure you'll agree.
I would it's pretty clear you know little about shooting "So you are saying that every time someone shoots a gun they hit their target 100% of the time? They get the kill shot on every single occasion cos I'm fairly confidently calling bullshit on that one fella. | |||
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"The threads about dogs and how people should have licenses usually start as a result of a child having been mauled to death by one. My little furry bastard occasionally eating a pigeon is not really comparable, however much you'd like to make it sound akin to genocide. Who the fuck are you?!?! "An extremely irresponsible cat owner | |||
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"Although for the record, my cats have bought in a live partridge (I think,didn't have my ornithology book on me at 3am but it was at least as big as them) through the cat flap and into my flat. As a responsible cat owner I returned it to the wild. Ah, torture. How adoreable. It was unharmed. I checked it over before returning it to the wild to be predated on by something else no doubt. It's the way the world works....food chain and all that jazz. I'm sure the whole process caused it little or no stress....
You get at me for shooting things, but death is pretty bloody swift that way...
Only if you are a crack shot. If not the animal hides away to ensure a slow and painful death. But I'm sure your a modern day John Wayne and all that.
What are you talking about? The only place I've seen things winged is on driven phasant shoots (and usually the dogs get them). I don't do that (although I beat on shoots). Rifle scopes make being a good shot very easy....
Of course it does....how silly of me. Of course every person to ever have shot a rifle has hit their target 100% of the time. Especially moving targets that are fairly agile. It's not like people have to practice or anything.
It's clear you want the last word jimi so I shall bow out now as it's late and I have work in the morning. It's been a fun late night discussion I'm sure you'll agree.
I would it's pretty clear you know little about shooting
So you are saying that every time someone shoots a gun they hit their target 100% of the time? They get the kill shot on every single occasion cos I'm fairly confidently calling bullshit on that one fella. "Well to say 100% would be pretty silly but if you think people shoot rifles at moving quarry then you are very much mistaken. now with a rifleit is very rare to miss and not have a pretty Instant death . And shotguns well obviously the target is generally moving but it would be very rare to just maim a bunny so long as you were a competent shot and also responsible I.e only shooting within reasonable range and not being trigger happy.. Unless you've been there and done it you would find it hard to understand and I don't mean that disrespectfully but everyone I have shot with as stupid as this may sound tries to kill the animal as quickly and humainly as possible.. A lot of the time people think the animal is alive as it will thrash about but it is in fact brain dead instantly . Not everyone who shoots is irresponsible just as not everyone with a pet is . But there is always the minority that spoil it for the majority.. The only real argument I have in this thread is sure if you want a cat have one but I don't want a cat so why do I have to put up with yours ..? You would do that with a dog? If the neigbours dog was constantly round my garden then they would apologise and do something about it... Why is this different for a cat? | |||
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. Oooh big man eh
This whole thread is fucking ridiculous.
If you don't like cats that's fair enough but to say you are going to kill any that encroach on your space is quite frankly pathetic.
Anyone who kills animals or threatens to kill animals is a pathetic weak individual. Hunting is vile.
So you are a vegetarian then?"Vegan | |||
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. Oooh big man eh
This whole thread is fucking ridiculous.
If you don't like cats that's fair enough but to say you are going to kill any that encroach on your space is quite frankly pathetic.
Anyone who kills animals or threatens to kill animals is a pathetic weak individual. Hunting is vile.
How about owning an animal that kills and tortures other animals?
"How is that comparable? Humans have the ability to mitigate harm to other living beings and have no requirement to kill things. Cats are predatory carnivores. | |||
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"Although for the record, my cats have bought in a live partridge (I think,didn't have my ornithology book on me at 3am but it was at least as big as them) through the cat flap and into my flat. As a responsible cat owner I returned it to the wild. Ah, torture. How adoreable. It was unharmed. I checked it over before returning it to the wild to be predated on by something else no doubt. It's the way the world works....food chain and all that jazz. I'm sure the whole process caused it little or no stress....
You get at me for shooting things, but death is pretty bloody swift that way..."So what? Did the thing you shoot want to die? Is it chuffed that it died without as much pain? You wouldn't have to deal with cats on your property if you didn't exploit animals in the first place. | |||
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"Although for the record, my cats have bought in a live partridge (I think,didn't have my ornithology book on me at 3am but it was at least as big as them) through the cat flap and into my flat. As a responsible cat owner I returned it to the wild. Ah, torture. How adoreable. It was unharmed. I checked it over before returning it to the wild to be predated on by something else no doubt. It's the way the world works....food chain and all that jazz. I'm sure the whole process caused it little or no stress....
You get at me for shooting things, but death is pretty bloody swift that way...
So what? Did the thing you shoot want to die? Is it chuffed that it died without as much pain?
You wouldn't have to deal with cats on your property if you didn't exploit animals in the first place. "Please explain ..... | |||
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. Oooh big man eh
This whole thread is fucking ridiculous.
If you don't like cats that's fair enough but to say you are going to kill any that encroach on your space is quite frankly pathetic.
Anyone who kills animals or threatens to kill animals is a pathetic weak individual. Hunting is vile.
How about owning an animal that kills and tortures other animals?
How is that comparable? Humans have the ability to mitigate harm to other living beings and have no requirement to kill things. Cats are predatory carnivores. "Humans are omnivores we are designed to eat meat how do you eat meat without killing things? I tell you what everyone with a dog please let it out then as its a hunter let them all pack together and go and maul things to death | |||
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. Oooh big man eh
This whole thread is fucking ridiculous.
If you don't like cats that's fair enough but to say you are going to kill any that encroach on your space is quite frankly pathetic.
Anyone who kills animals or threatens to kill animals is a pathetic weak individual. Hunting is vile.
How about owning an animal that kills and tortures other animals?
How is that comparable? Humans have the ability to mitigate harm to other living beings and have no requirement to kill things. Cats are predatory carnivores.
Humans are omnivores we are designed to eat meat how do you eat meat without killing things?
I tell you what everyone with a dog please let it out then as its a hunter let them all pack together and go and maul things to death "We're not 'designed' to eat meat (we weren't 'designed' in the first place), we barely share any traits with traditional omnivores. How do you eat meat without killing things? Just don't eat meat lol. You're no gonna die bro. | |||
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. Oooh big man eh
This whole thread is fucking ridiculous.
If you don't like cats that's fair enough but to say you are going to kill any that encroach on your space is quite frankly pathetic.
Anyone who kills animals or threatens to kill animals is a pathetic weak individual. Hunting is vile.
How about owning an animal that kills and tortures other animals?
How is that comparable? Humans have the ability to mitigate harm to other living beings and have no requirement to kill things. Cats are predatory carnivores.
Humans are omnivores we are designed to eat meat how do you eat meat without killing things?
I tell you what everyone with a dog please let it out then as its a hunter let them all pack together and go and maul things to death
We're not 'designed' to eat meat (we weren't 'designed' in the first place), we barely share any traits with traditional omnivores. How do you eat meat without killing things? Just don't eat meat lol. You're no gonna die bro. "We are omnivores and we function best with a varied diet of animals and plants. A life without meat ?? No thanks | |||
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. Oooh big man eh
This whole thread is fucking ridiculous.
If you don't like cats that's fair enough but to say you are going to kill any that encroach on your space is quite frankly pathetic.
Anyone who kills animals or threatens to kill animals is a pathetic weak individual. Hunting is vile.
How about owning an animal that kills and tortures other animals?
How is that comparable? Humans have the ability to mitigate harm to other living beings and have no requirement to kill things. Cats are predatory carnivores.
Humans are omnivores we are designed to eat meat how do you eat meat without killing things?
I tell you what everyone with a dog please let it out then as its a hunter let them all pack together and go and maul things to death
We're not 'designed' to eat meat (we weren't 'designed' in the first place), we barely share any traits with traditional omnivores. How do you eat meat without killing things? Just don't eat meat lol. You're no gonna die bro.
We are omnivores and we function best with a varied diet of animals and plants. A life without meat ?? No thanks "Please provide evidence that we 'function best with a varied diet of animals and plants'. A life without meat is excellent. So glad I stopped eating the discarded rotting carcass flesh of sentient beings and switched to plant based. Feel better than ever | |||
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. Oooh big man eh
This whole thread is fucking ridiculous.
If you don't like cats that's fair enough but to say you are going to kill any that encroach on your space is quite frankly pathetic.
Anyone who kills animals or threatens to kill animals is a pathetic weak individual. Hunting is vile.
How about owning an animal that kills and tortures other animals?
How is that comparable? Humans have the ability to mitigate harm to other living beings and have no requirement to kill things. Cats are predatory carnivores.
Humans are omnivores we are designed to eat meat how do you eat meat without killing things?
I tell you what everyone with a dog please let it out then as its a hunter let them all pack together and go and maul things to death
We're not 'designed' to eat meat (we weren't 'designed' in the first place), we barely share any traits with traditional omnivores. How do you eat meat without killing things? Just don't eat meat lol. You're no gonna die bro.
We are omnivores and we function best with a varied diet of animals and plants. A life without meat ?? No thanks
Please provide evidence that we 'function best with a varied diet of animals and plants'.
A life without meat is excellent. So glad I stopped eating the discarded rotting carcass flesh of sentient beings and switched to plant based. Feel better than ever "Humans have much shorter digestive systems than herbivores and don’t have the specialized organs to digest cellulose, the main fiber in plants. Why do you have canine teeth?? To chew your spinach? | |||
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"Well lunas hammock arrived today and she's turned her pretty little nose up at it! xxx"i bought mine some nice comfy cat beds but one of them would prefer to sleep in the sink!!! | |||
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. Oooh big man eh
This whole thread is fucking ridiculous.
If you don't like cats that's fair enough but to say you are going to kill any that encroach on your space is quite frankly pathetic.
Anyone who kills animals or threatens to kill animals is a pathetic weak individual. Hunting is vile.
How about owning an animal that kills and tortures other animals?
How is that comparable? Humans have the ability to mitigate harm to other living beings and have no requirement to kill things. Cats are predatory carnivores.
Humans are omnivores we are designed to eat meat how do you eat meat without killing things?
I tell you what everyone with a dog please let it out then as its a hunter let them all pack together and go and maul things to death
We're not 'designed' to eat meat (we weren't 'designed' in the first place), we barely share any traits with traditional omnivores. How do you eat meat without killing things? Just don't eat meat lol. You're no gonna die bro.
We are omnivores and we function best with a varied diet of animals and plants. A life without meat ?? No thanks
Please provide evidence that we 'function best with a varied diet of animals and plants'.
A life without meat is excellent. So glad I stopped eating the discarded rotting carcass flesh of sentient beings and switched to plant based. Feel better than ever "i am so glad i can enjoy my dietary choices without judging other people's
might not be empirical evidence but my friend who has been veggie (and a very eclectic veggie eater at that) for many many years has been advised by her Dr to start to eat fish as she gets older due to her varied diet not giving her enough essential fatty acids or omega 3's or something like that | |||
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"Well lunas hammock arrived today and she's turned her pretty little nose up at it! xxx
i bought mine some nice comfy cat beds but one of them would prefer to sleep in the sink!!! "Bonkers isn't it. Luna has a nice comfort bed too they she ignores. I was going to get her a tree with a igloo but .y girls insisted I got the hammock. Oh well. xxx | |||
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"Haha. You think your canines can tear through raw flesh like a proper omni/carni? Can you run your prey down and tear it apart with your pathetic little fingernails and consume it raw? Have you seen a Hippo's massive teeth? They're herbivores mate. Try again. As for your other claim, we are miles away from carnivores in that respect. They have very small intestines whereas ours comparitively are a lot bigger, meaning when meat travels down our intestines it rots, contrary to your point the aforementioned intestine we possess allows us to obtain all the good stuff from the plants as it travels down us. Excess fat and cholesterol make us sick and leads to heart disease etc. but yeah we were totally meant to be meat eaters haha. Good one. " There is tooth size and tooth shape just having big teeth doesn't dictate it's purpose . We have large enough to brains to make tools,traps and weapons to not have to run and chase things down ,we have evolved into a weak ,lazy but very intelligent animal but that doesn't mean we are no longer required to eat meat . you are obviously going to see things through vegan tinted glasses as I am through bacon glasses and I don't deny there will be strong arguments for both cases but let's face it the a huge majority of the human race eat meat , we were eating meat as far back as 1.5 million years ago . You are the minority and yet you think that your life choice is the best .... | |||
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. Oooh big man eh
This whole thread is fucking ridiculous.
If you don't like cats that's fair enough but to say you are going to kill any that encroach on your space is quite frankly pathetic.
Anyone who kills animals or threatens to kill animals is a pathetic weak individual. Hunting is vile.
How about owning an animal that kills and tortures other animals?
How is that comparable? Humans have the ability to mitigate harm to other living beings and have no requirement to kill things. Cats are predatory carnivores.
Humans are omnivores we are designed to eat meat how do you eat meat without killing things?
I tell you what everyone with a dog please let it out then as its a hunter let them all pack together and go and maul things to death
We're not 'designed' to eat meat (we weren't 'designed' in the first place), we barely share any traits with traditional omnivores. How do you eat meat without killing things? Just don't eat meat lol. You're no gonna die bro.
We are omnivores and we function best with a varied diet of animals and plants. A life without meat ?? No thanks
Please provide evidence that we 'function best with a varied diet of animals and plants'.
A life without meat is excellent. So glad I stopped eating the discarded rotting carcass flesh of sentient beings and switched to plant based. Feel better than ever
i am so glad i can enjoy my dietary choices without judging other people's
might not be empirical evidence but my friend who has been veggie (and a very eclectic veggie eater at that) for many many years has been advised by her Dr to start to eat fish as she gets older due to her varied diet not giving her enough essential fatty acids or omega 3's or something like that"I'm so glad you can enjoy the slaughter of poor innocent creatures purely because you want to consume their rotting carcasses. Must feel good for you. Does my judgement hurt you more than those little animals? Naw, diddums. Such a great anecdote you provided. One can obtain omega 3's from flax seed, chia seeds etc or just from a simple tablet. Your friend's doctor required no more than 8 hours of nutritional study to officially become a doctor. Doctors know *nothing* of nutrition. Next. | |||
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"Haha. You think your canines can tear through raw flesh like a proper omni/carni? Can you run your prey down and tear it apart with your pathetic little fingernails and consume it raw? Have you seen a Hippo's massive teeth? They're herbivores mate. Try again. As for your other claim, we are miles away from carnivores in that respect. They have very small intestines whereas ours comparitively are a lot bigger, meaning when meat travels down our intestines it rots, contrary to your point the aforementioned intestine we possess allows us to obtain all the good stuff from the plants as it travels down us. Excess fat and cholesterol make us sick and leads to heart disease etc. but yeah we were totally meant to be meat eaters haha. Good one. There is tooth size and tooth shape just having big teeth doesn't dictate it's purpose . We have large enough to brains to make tools,traps and weapons to not have to run and chase things down ,we have evolved into a weak ,lazy but very intelligent animal but that doesn't mean we are no longer required to eat meat . you are obviously going to see things through vegan tinted glasses as I am through bacon glasses and I don't deny there will be strong arguments for both cases but let's face it the a huge majority of the human race eat meat , we were eating meat as far back as 1.5 million years ago . You are the minority and yet you think that your life choice is the best ...." Yep. We're the minority but we're growing massively. The amount of vegans in the UK has blown up by over 350% in the last 10 years. It's becoming very mainstream. Also, just because something has 'always been the way' does not make it right - see slavery, racism, sexism etc - you have the choice to live a cruel lifestyle, or one that omits cruelty as much as possible. We choose the latter, as we're not selfish. | |||
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"It's funny, but whenever I have returned cats to people, they have been quite apologetic... When I have explained that I have poultry etc. After reading this thread, I'm half tempred not to bother and just crack out the 12bore. Oooh big man eh
This whole thread is fucking ridiculous.
If you don't like cats that's fair enough but to say you are going to kill any that encroach on your space is quite frankly pathetic.
Anyone who kills animals or threatens to kill animals is a pathetic weak individual. Hunting is vile.
How about owning an animal that kills and tortures other animals?
How is that comparable? Humans have the ability to mitigate harm to other living beings and have no requirement to kill things. Cats are predatory carnivores.
Humans are omnivores we are designed to eat meat how do you eat meat without killing things?
I tell you what everyone with a dog please let it out then as its a hunter let them all pack together and go and maul things to death
We're not 'designed' to eat meat (we weren't 'designed' in the first place), we barely share any traits with traditional omnivores. How do you eat meat without killing things? Just don't eat meat lol. You're no gonna die bro.
We are omnivores and we function best with a varied diet of animals and plants. A life without meat ?? No thanks
Please provide evidence that we 'function best with a varied diet of animals and plants'.
A life without meat is excellent. So glad I stopped eating the discarded rotting carcass flesh of sentient beings and switched to plant based. Feel better than ever
i am so glad i can enjoy my dietary choices without judging other people's
might not be empirical evidence but my friend who has been veggie (and a very eclectic veggie eater at that) for many many years has been advised by her Dr to start to eat fish as she gets older due to her varied diet not giving her enough essential fatty acids or omega 3's or something like that
I'm so glad you can enjoy the slaughter of poor innocent creatures purely because you want to consume their rotting carcasses. Must feel good for you. Does my judgement hurt you more than those little animals? Naw, diddums.
Such a great anecdote you provided. One can obtain omega 3's from flax seed, chia seeds etc or just from a simple tablet. Your friend's doctor required no more than 8 hours of nutritional study to officially become a doctor. Doctors know *nothing* of nutrition.
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"Typical dumbfuck response. Standard procedure. Anyone wanna try something of substance or are we done?" An extremist makes for a good argument but it does not make what he says correct . | |||
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"Typical dumbfuck response. Standard procedure. Anyone wanna try something of substance or are we done?" god you are a little charmer aren't you!! if someone brings me a reasoned debate without resorting to insults and sarcastic jibes i will listen and be prepared to be educated. i have every respect for your lifestyle choice but it seems too much to expect you to do the same. | |||
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"You don't know how many times I've seen this haha. Defeat an argument with logic and get an ''mmmm bacon'-esque response. It just shows how little is going on upstairs that you're afraid to think deeper than your tastebuds. " what logic? all you have done is be sarcastic and antagonistic. show me your evidence then.....provide links so i can be educated. | |||
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