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By *odareyou OP Man over a year ago

not far from iceland,,,,,, tescos is nearer though :-) (near leeds)

A man from huddersfield has died following an attack by a dog ... It had been released by the police back to its owner last week following concerns by people that it was dangerous.. it was assessed as not being on the dangerous breeds list..

Truly a tragic event for the guys family, however legislation that should have protected him and other members of the public failed.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There are no dangerous dogs.

There are dangerous owners.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

All dogs are dangerous.

I can't believe any old idiot can buy one.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A man from huddersfield has died following an attack by a dog ... It had been released by the police back to its owner last week following concerns by people that it was dangerous.. it was assessed as not being on the dangerous breeds list..

Truly a tragic event for the guys family, however legislation that should have protected him and other members of the public failed. "

There are very few dangerous dogs. There are far more dangerous dog owners. Training is paramount, whether you own a poodle or a staffie.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are no dangerous dogs.

There are dangerous owners."

This

Some people should quite simply not be allowed to have a dog.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are no dangerous dogs.

There are dangerous owners."

I still think you should be required to apply for a licence to own a dog and all dogs should be chipped

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

Very sad. The poor man

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are no dangerous dogs.

There are dangerous owners.

I still think you should be required to apply for a licence to own a dog and all dogs should be chipped "

In Ireland we need a dog licence and for our dogs to be micro chipped

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yes,usually the owners are to blame. A personal event involving non dangerous dogs left me in a dreadful situation.

The police were not interested in prosecuting the owners because the owners had the dogs put down. It was only the dog warden who helped.

Guess what?. They just went out and got more dogs' had they been prosecuted then they would have been banned from keeping them.

My sincere sympathy for the family of the poor guy who died.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are no dangerous dogs.

There are dangerous owners.

I still think you should be required to apply for a licence to own a dog and all dogs should be chipped

In Ireland we need a dog licence and for our dogs to be micro chipped"

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By *uperock99Man over a year ago

Milton Keynes

I hate going for a walk at a park, and then see some dog off the lead, the dog spots you and comes charging towards you, the owner calls it but doesn't listen and at that point I don't know what the dogs intention is whether it is in attack mode or friendly mode, I don't trust dogs that I do not know especially the ones that don't listen to their owners

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By *litheroevoyeurMan over a year ago

Clitheroe

"I hate going for a walk at a park, and then see some dog off the lead, the dog spots you and comes charging towards you, the owner calls it but doesn't listen and at that point I don't know what the dogs intention is whether it is in attack mode or friendly mode, I don't trust dogs that I do not know especially the ones that don't listen to their owners"

I usually have a walking pole with me out of habit and I wouldn't hesitate to use it in self defence if a dog came charging up to me.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I work in the trades and im in people's houses all the time! Been bitten by dogs a few times and they have all been Jack Russell's!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are no dangerous dogs.

There are dangerous owners."

Completely agree, a Labrador managed to knock two of my children over when they were small, one of them is still hugely afraid of dogs nearly 10 years on, but the owner couldn't have cared less about what her unleashed dog was doing in a public park

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By *i1971Man over a year ago

Cornwall

I've never agreed with the Dangerous Dogs Legislation. It was a knee-jerk reaction to a series of dog attacks & those dogs were the ones shortlisted for the legislation.

There can be rogue dogs, but these can be any breed. Why an innocent dog should be euthanized because of its' looks is beyond me. It is more to do with the handling than anything else.

Also, there needs to be some sense in the tests undertaken on "dangerous dogs" as currently they are heavily weighted against the accused dog. There is currently an issue with conflicting opinions going through the courts, where the police "expert" alpha rolls the dog. What do you know, it growls and tries to bite. Most dogs I know would also do that if they were threatened to that extent. The expert then tries to pick the dog up. It growls & is not happy. Would any dog be, given the initial experience? On the flip side, the dog is reassessed by a dog behaviour expert (Dr Roger Mugford) & the same dog, branded as vicious by the police, was giving paws, licking, sitting, walking easily on the lead & showed no signs of aggression

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By *BWcpl49Couple over a year ago

Reading

"There are no dangerous dogs.

There are dangerous owners."

Yu took the words out of my mouth

Don't blame the breed blame what's at the other end of the lead

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No one under the age of 21 should be allowed to own a dog.

Before you are allowed to own a dog your house should be inspected for suitability.

Anyone wishing to own a dog should be inter_iewed.

You should require a licence and anytime your dog misbehaves you get points on that licence that could lead to confiscation.

All dogs should be muzzled when out in public.

All dogs should have DNA samples taken from them and if your dog shits anywhere and you don't clean up after it you get a warning, second offence and you forfeit the right to own a dog.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The legislation doesn't work though.

4 banned dogs...

Put bulls

Fila brazilianos

Japanese tosa

And the dogo.

I happen to own a pit bull. He's slept at the foot of my sons bed every night since I brought him home and they're like best friends. The dogs aren't dangerous, their desire to please is what makes them dangerous.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have a 5 month old rottweiler and a 3 year old son. My dog has changed peoples opinions on rotties she is soft as anything. Its definetly not the dog its the owners the dog most likely to bite (according to an article i read online) is a retriever! Rottweilers didnt even feature.

That being said im a considerate owner i keep her on the lead to meet other dogs and people even if we are out running about and playing in an open space i cwll her back and put her on her lead and should anyone come to the house even just to deliver the food shopping i shut her in the kitchen. She also has one on one training from a professional.

If your going to get a dog research the breed and get the required training its not rocket science

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I have a 5 month old rottweiler and a 3 year old son. My dog has changed peoples opinions on rotties she is soft as anything. Its definetly not the dog its the owners the dog most likely to bite (according to an article i read online) is a retriever! Rottweilers didnt even feature.

If your going to get a dog research the breed and get the required training its not rocket science "

I must admit I don't walk mine on a lead or a muzzle. But I can make him sit and walk off for 200 yards, he won't budge until I call him. He walks along side me at my pace and sits if I stop.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If your going to get a dog research the breed and get the required training its not rocket science "

Every Rottweiler I've known has been incredibly soft and excellent with children

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are no dangerous dogs.

There are dangerous owners."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No one under the age of 21 should be allowed to own a dog.

Before you are allowed to own a dog your house should be inspected for suitability.

Anyone wishing to own a dog should be inter_iewed.

You should require a licence and anytime your dog misbehaves you get points on that licence that could lead to confiscation.

All dogs should be muzzled when out in public.

All dogs should have DNA samples taken from them and if your dog shits anywhere and you don't clean up after it you get a warning, second offence and you forfeit the right to own a dog. "

Of couse you realise that if we implemented a single one of those suggestions then the threshold for raising a dog would be higher than raising a child. Just saying.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No one under the age of 21 should be allowed to own a dog.

Before you are allowed to own a dog your house should be inspected for suitability.

Anyone wishing to own a dog should be inter_iewed.

You should require a licence and anytime your dog misbehaves you get points on that licence that could lead to confiscation.

All dogs should be muzzled when out in public.

All dogs should have DNA samples taken from them and if your dog shits anywhere and you don't clean up after it you get a warning, second offence and you forfeit the right to own a dog.

Of couse you realise that if we implemented a single one of those suggestions then the threshold for raising a dog would be higher than raising a child. Just saying. "

You haven't heard my requirements for having children yet.

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By *i1971Man over a year ago

Cornwall

"No one under the age of 21 should be allowed to own a dog.

Before you are allowed to own a dog your house should be inspected for suitability.

Anyone wishing to own a dog should be inter_iewed.

You should require a licence and anytime your dog misbehaves you get points on that licence that could lead to confiscation.

All dogs should be muzzled when out in public.

All dogs should have DNA samples taken from them and if your dog shits anywhere and you don't clean up after it you get a warning, second offence and you forfeit the right to own a dog. "

Are we to gather you're not keen on dogs then?

In fairness anyone who has rehomed a dog will have been vetted prior to the new dog being homed with them. Again though, this will only affect those who play by the rules.

What it won't cover are the dickheads like those not far from me, who bred their dog for the sole purpose of getting a new car. Do you think they would be worried who they sold the pups to?

There's no need for a dog licence, they're already microchipped. Well, those owners who obeyed the law have microchipped their dogs. Any misdemeanours could be added to the database. Having a requirement for a licence will have no effect on a large proportion of irresponsible dog owners.

DNA results on dog shit aren't as accurate as you might hope - so not a lot of point doing that

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No one under the age of 21 should be allowed to own a dog.

Before you are allowed to own a dog your house should be inspected for suitability.

Anyone wishing to own a dog should be inter_iewed.

You should require a licence and anytime your dog misbehaves you get points on that licence that could lead to confiscation.

All dogs should be muzzled when out in public.

All dogs should have DNA samples taken from them and if your dog shits anywhere and you don't clean up after it you get a warning, second offence and you forfeit the right to own a dog.

Of couse you realise that if we implemented a single one of those suggestions then the threshold for raising a dog would be higher than raising a child. Just saying.

You haven't heard my requirements for having children yet.

Ha ha. Well we already have higher standards for transporting cattle than we do humans on trains so why not.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Most people are surprised to learn that the dachshund is the most aggressive breed of dog.

Hardly surprising when they were bred to fight badgers/rabbits underground.

We have a 2 year old dachshund and they are unbelievably cute and loving but when You look at them properly they are build perfectly for fighting underground.

As has been said, dangerous owners not dogs.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I admit that I dont like dogs tbh

I would ban all dogs "capable of overpowering a healthy adult" .good owners or not... a list defined in law by "experts"

Clearly a difficult thing to define in law (if not impossible) but I would have a damn good go...

I may even go the other way and ban all dogs unless they are on a white list...

Not popular Im sure and, of course, will never happen... those dog owners vote

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No one under the age of 21 should be allowed to own a dog.

Before you are allowed to own a dog your house should be inspected for suitability.

Anyone wishing to own a dog should be inter_iewed.

You should require a licence and anytime your dog misbehaves you get points on that licence that could lead to confiscation.

All dogs should be muzzled when out in public.

All dogs should have DNA samples taken from them and if your dog shits anywhere and you don't clean up after it you get a warning, second offence and you forfeit the right to own a dog.

Are we to gather you're not keen on dogs then?

In fairness anyone who has rehomed a dog will have been vetted prior to the new dog being homed with them. Again though, this will only affect those who play by the rules.

What it won't cover are the dickheads like those not far from me, who bred their dog for the sole purpose of getting a new car. Do you think they would be worried who they sold the pups to?

DNA results on dog shit aren't as accurate as you might hope - so not a lot of point doing that"

I love dogs, I have had four over the years. It's the owners I'm not so keen on.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are no dangerous dogs.

There are dangerous owners."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Most people are surprised to learn that the dachshund is the most aggressive breed of dog.

Hardly surprising when they were bred to fight badgers/rabbits underground.

We have a 2 year old dachshund and they are unbelievably cute and loving but when You look at them properly they are build perfectly for fighting underground.

As has been said, dangerous owners not dogs. "

That's 'sausage dogs' to you and I folks

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are no dangerous dogs.

There are dangerous owners.

I still think you should be required to apply for a licence to own a dog and all dogs should be chipped "

It is now law for all dogs to be chipped, came in a couple of months ago. X

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If your going to get a dog research the breed and get the required training its not rocket science

Every Rottweiler I've known has been incredibly soft and excellent with children"

There's one here, I own and live with a Rottweiler and have only been bite by a small Jack Russell at work lol.

Does that make the breed of jack Russell a dangerous breed...nope!

Jason

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

As an owner id be fully in favour of introducing dog licenses

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By *ootballFlowerCouple over a year ago

Ollerton

We have two dogs including 1 rescue. Both are microchipped as required by law now. Both are very loving dogs who want nothing more than to be stroked and played with. They are great with all ages and dont mind some rough and tumble play.

We would NEVER leave our dogs alone with children, we dont let them off the lead if we can children playing in the same field as us. We have no fear of them biting anyone but we wouldnt risk it - the worst they would do is jump up at you for fuss but that could be enough to injure someone so it is a risk we wont take.

ANY dog can be dangerous - especially with the wrong owner. No matter how confident you are of a dog they can never be trusted 100%

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By *mmmMaybeCouple over a year ago

West Wales

Because of this I have to put a muzzle on our dog when in public & then everyone gives us a dirty look like he's some vicious brute all because some dickhead wasn't in control of his Russell who then decided it was a good idea to attack a 9st Akita..Not a good idea - I just don't want to be in that position again..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If your going to get a dog research the breed and get the required training its not rocket science

I must admit I don't walk mine on a lead or a muzzle. But I can make him sit and walk off for 200 yards, he won't budge until I call him. He walks along side me at my pace and sits if I stop. "

Thats our goal for our pup but she isnt ready for that yet as she is still an exciteable pup

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By *odareyou OP Man over a year ago

not far from iceland,,,,,, tescos is nearer though :-) (near leeds)

I've said it for ages dangerous dogs aren't breed specific, it's dog specific..

given good ownership it's a very very rare occurance..

Apparently he was trying to protect his own dog from being attacked by the other dog

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

ANY dog can be dangerous - especially with the wrong owner. No matter how confident you are of a dog they can never be trusted 100%"

You could say the same about humans really

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Breed specific legislation does not work, as this very clearly shows. The dog did not fit the guidelines for BSL so was released home, into the hands of a clearly irresponsible owner yet completely harmless dogs who do are destroyed because of their measurements.

Yet another irresponsible owner responsible for a tragedy, the problem is at one end of the lead and its the end with the dog on!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If your going to get a dog research the breed and get the required training its not rocket science

Every Rottweiler I've known has been incredibly soft and excellent with children

There's one here, I own and live with a Rottweiler and have only been bite by a small Jack Russell at work lol.

Does that make the breed of jack Russell a dangerous breed...nope!

Jason "

For me the point is I could fight off a Jack Russell if I had to...some of these other breeds you couldnt and could kill.you...

Although even a dog bite from a small dog can land you in hospital for days as my ex found out after being bitten...massive amount of germs in a dogs mouth....and people let them lick faces.....eek

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By *asokittyWoman over a year ago

Nr Worksop

"There are no dangerous dogs.

There are dangerous owners."

Totally agree.

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By *odareyou OP Man over a year ago

not far from iceland,,,,,, tescos is nearer though :-) (near leeds)

"As an owner id be fully in favour of introducing dog licenses

Like all pieces of legislation the responsible will comply and the irresponsible will ignore ..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Breed specific legislation does not work, as this very clearly shows. The dog did not fit the guidelines for BSL so was released home, into the hands of a clearly irresponsible owner yet completely harmless dogs who do are destroyed because of their measurements.

Yet another irresponsible owner responsible for a tragedy, the problem is at one end of the lead and its the end with the dog on!! "

Do'h, that should have said 'not the end with the dog on!'

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Any dog no matter what breed has the ability to be a dangerous dog!, as per Testarossa's comment it's the person holding the lead which causes a dog to turn.

I have a few dogs and have bred and shown dogs all

my life, there is no way to stop idiots buying dogs that's now why there are so many puppy farms around the uk.

As much as I love them I agree every person that owns a dog should be made to have a licence, the rspca should be more proactive also and be able to do spot checks....the licence number should be somehow attached to the microchip and when scanned if the dog does not have this then it's taken away from the owner.

I think this would then reduce the number of so called idiots that have said dangerous dogs and also burn out puppy farmers.

Making the micro chip even smarter they could have it linked to issues the dog may also have such as epilepsy, hip displacia, or heart conditions that way of it comes on the microchip the dog should not be used to breed from.

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By *ancs MinxWoman over a year ago

Burnley

Truly a tragic event for the guys family, however legislation that should have protected him and other members of the public failed.

There are very few dangerous dogs. There are far more dangerous dog owners. Training is paramount, whether you own a poodle or a staffie."

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By *inky-MinxWoman over a year ago

Grantham

"There are no dangerous dogs.

There are dangerous owners.

I still think you should be required to apply for a licence to own a dog and all dogs should be chipped

It is now law for all dogs to be chipped, came in a couple of months ago. X"

Yes but there is no law for anyone to scan a dog. Vets, Police, dog wardens, councils etc. none of them are required to scan a pet and they tend not to.

Pointless legislation, much like the dangerous dogs act itself.

It's the horrible people who use dogs for violence who need to be legislated.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Truly a tragic event for the guys family, however legislation that should have protected him and other members of the public failed. "

Sadly the dog will be put to sleep but its owner won't be...

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By *ewels74Woman over a year ago

Dundee/Angus/Blackpool

"Any dog no matter what breed has the ability to be a dangerous dog!, as per Testarossa's comment it's the person holding the lead which causes a dog to turn.

I have a few dogs and have bred and shown dogs all

my life, there is no way to stop idiots buying dogs that's now why there are so many puppy farms around the uk.

I think this would then reduce the number of so called idiots that have said dangerous dogs and also burn out puppy farmers.

I shoW and breed cocker spaniels and german shepherds(the gsd not so much now) and in all honesty it is the German Shepherd community who actually are way forward and up there in getting the breed tested in everything including temperament checks and many people are highly critical still,but yes when having pups I alway get them microchipped before they go to a new owner.

It is the owner who is responsible,and in all honesty there is always a type of person who seems to go for the staffies and they are used in various ways.

I'm on 3 committees and tend to see a lot of things at the shows

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By *ust RachelTV/TS over a year ago

Horsham

We had a border collie when I was young, it attacked my dad due to him hitting my mum. The dog did some damage to my dad's hand and arm. This was the softest dog you can meet and was very well trained.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If your going to get a dog research the breed and get the required training its not rocket science

I must admit I don't walk mine on a lead or a muzzle. But I can make him sit and walk off for 200 yards, he won't budge until I call him. He walks along side me at my pace and sits if I stop.

Thats our goal for our pup but she isnt ready for that yet as she is still an exciteable pup "

It took ages, and loads of patience but we got there in the end. My son was able to do it straight away, but like I said they're like best friends

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We had a border collie when I was young, it attacked my dad due to him hitting my mum. The dog did some damage to my dad's hand and arm. This was the softest dog you can meet and was very well trained. "

I think it is natural to dogs to protect especially females+children and that is a major reason why people love them so much and will tolerate them chewing the house to bits

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Breed Specific Legislation

This is exactly what it sounds like, it is a regulation that determines your right to own or not own a dog based purely on the breed or 'type' of dog and in no way reflects your competence as an owner or the temperament of the dog. There are some glaringly obvious problems with this as follows...

It completely fails to address the cause of dog related incidents which is almost always due to irresponsible ownership by way of neglect, no socialisation, no training, poor standard of care or the deliberate encouragement of aggressive behaviour.

All of the above causes can and often are associated with many other breeds not just 'type' dogs. It is a fact that ANY breed of dog can become unpredictable even to the point of being dangerous if not cared for and trained properly. I myself have encountered dogs that are considered dangerous by the authorities who police this legislation and have found them to be even tempered, well trained and valued family pets. I have also worked with 'safe' breeds such as Labradors, Poodles, Flat coat retrievers amongst others that have exhibited aggressive behaviour and warranted careful handling. So...given the fact that the breed of dog in no way serves as an accurate indicator of its temperament and furthermore there are dogs that are considered 'safe' that are infact potentially dangerous but being overlooked because they dont fit the profile, how can this legislation possibly be effective ??? The time dedicated to policing specific breeds that include countless dogs that have no bite record and are owned by responsible owners could better be spent tackling the true problem which has been proved time after time to be the owner of the dog and the environment it has been subjected to.

If the breeds included in this legislation are eventually made 'to risky' to own, the irresponsible owners will simply change their target or preferred breed. This has already begun with many less than ideal dog owners favouring Mastiffs aswell as other large breeds.

The people who enforce this legislation are very often doing so based simply on the 'look' of a dog, measurements taken can seal the fate of a dog regardless of its actual breed and behaviour. These people are all to often far from qualified to assess any dog and there have been instances where measurements have been incorrectly taken which further reduces the effectiveness of this legislation.

There are several more problems which make BSL a non-workable and ill conceived law but I will finish on this...By burying their heads in the sand and ignoring evidence from parts of the world where BSL has been shown not to work, by taking the easy option rather than dealing with the true cause of dog incidents which is the irresponsible ownership of those dogs involved across the full spectrum of breeds, by sticking rigidly to an ineffective law which is the result of a knee jerk reaction to a much more difficult problem to tackle, the government / local authorities are putting members of the public at risk and destroying perfectly safe and much loved family pets and companions.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Any dog can snap the same way humans can.....all these people who say "my dog won't touch you" while the thing is jumping up on you.....when the dog tells me it won't touch me then I'll be convinced x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are no dangerous dogs.

There are dangerous owners."

This

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By *ire_bladeMan over a year ago

Manchester

"There are no dangerous dogs.

There are dangerous owners.

This "

This. Had staffies or some forms of bulldog all my life. They've grown up with my kids and I know would protect them with there lives. Some I've had from pups and more recently rescue 1s I'd never have any other type

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By *imiUKMan over a year ago

Hereford

"There are no dangerous dogs.

There are dangerous owners."

Rubbish.

In any kind of animal you can get ones that aren't quite right/are agressive. Sometimes it's down to nurture (ie how they are handled/treated), sometimes they appear to just have been born that way.

I've seen it in dogs, cattle, pigs and even the odd sheep. I had a mate who's sister had a rabbit that was totally batshit.

However, most aren't and you can't live your life in fear of the odd bad one. I've worked with animals all my life and for the most part they are a lot less dangerous than people.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are no dangerous dogs.

There are dangerous owners.

Rubbish.

In any kind of animal you can get ones that aren't quite right/are agressive. Sometimes it's down to nurture (ie how they are handled/treated), sometimes they appear to just have been born that way.

I've seen it in dogs, cattle, pigs and even the odd sheep. I had a mate who's sister had a rabbit that was totally batshit.

However, most aren't and you can't live your life in fear of the odd bad one. I've worked with animals all my life and for the most part they are a lot less dangerous than people. "

Animals that show aggression for no obvious reasons tend to have health issues. Visible or not.

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By *imiUKMan over a year ago

Hereford

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By *imiUKMan over a year ago

Hereford

"There are no dangerous dogs.

There are dangerous owners.

Rubbish.

In any kind of animal you can get ones that aren't quite right/are agressive. Sometimes it's down to nurture (ie how they are handled/treated), sometimes they appear to just have been born that way.

I've seen it in dogs, cattle, pigs and even the odd sheep. I had a mate who's sister had a rabbit that was totally batshit.

However, most aren't and you can't live your life in fear of the odd bad one. I've worked with animals all my life and for the most part they are a lot less dangerous than people.

Animals that show aggression for no obvious reasons tend to have health issues. Visible or not. "

Not at all. It can be all kind of things. Sometimes it's the presence of testicles, sometimes it's the presence of it's young. Some are just nuts.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are no dangerous dogs.

There are dangerous owners.

Rubbish.

In any kind of animal you can get ones that aren't quite right/are agressive. Sometimes it's down to nurture (ie how they are handled/treated), sometimes they appear to just have been born that way.

I've seen it in dogs, cattle, pigs and even the odd sheep. I had a mate who's sister had a rabbit that was totally batshit.

However, most aren't and you can't live your life in fear of the odd bad one. I've worked with animals all my life and for the most part they are a lot less dangerous than people.

Animals that show aggression for no obvious reasons tend to have health issues. Visible or not.

Not at all. It can be all kind of things. Sometimes it's the presence of testicles, sometimes it's the presence of it's young. Some are just nuts. "

Only encountered 3 animals showing bad aggression for no obvious reason. Rabbit it turned out was inbred. Snake with a brain tumour. Dog who was epileptic, but silent fits, so just went stiff and trembled rather than fitting. As much of my time as possible is with animals. I agree that there will be some with no health issues who are well cared for from day 1. But the vast majority of dogs that are dangerous are in the wrong hands.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are no dangerous dogs.

There are dangerous owners.

Rubbish.

In any kind of animal you can get ones that aren't quite right/are agressive. Sometimes it's down to nurture (ie how they are handled/treated), sometimes they appear to just have been born that way.

I've seen it in dogs, cattle, pigs and even the odd sheep. I had a mate who's sister had a rabbit that was totally batshit.

However, most aren't and you can't live your life in fear of the odd bad one. I've worked with animals all my life and for the most part they are a lot less dangerous than people.

Animals that show aggression for no obvious reasons tend to have health issues. Visible or not.

Not at all. It can be all kind of things. Sometimes it's the presence of testicles, sometimes it's the presence of it's young. Some are just nuts. "

Yeah- I forgot that you know Everything about all animals just cos you worked with them!

Well so have I and dogs are not born aggressive. It's learned behaviour.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It has been repeated shown that a dog, being a pack animal, mimics the pack it is raised in. Take two pups from the same litter, put one with an OAP couple and one with a family with young children and after a short period of time the OAP dog will be quiet and shuffle about while the family dog will run around and be energetic.

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By *imiUKMan over a year ago

Hereford

"There are no dangerous dogs.

There are dangerous owners.

Rubbish.

In any kind of animal you can get ones that aren't quite right/are agressive. Sometimes it's down to nurture (ie how they are handled/treated), sometimes they appear to just have been born that way.

I've seen it in dogs, cattle, pigs and even the odd sheep. I had a mate who's sister had a rabbit that was totally batshit.

However, most aren't and you can't live your life in fear of the odd bad one. I've worked with animals all my life and for the most part they are a lot less dangerous than people.

Animals that show aggression for no obvious reasons tend to have health issues. Visible or not.

Not at all. It can be all kind of things. Sometimes it's the presence of testicles, sometimes it's the presence of it's young. Some are just nuts.

Yeah- I forgot that you know Everything about all animals just cos you worked with them!

Well so have I and dogs are not born aggressive. It's learned behaviour."

I bet some are, and I bet a few more of them have had something bad happen to them which has made them that way.

Animals are like people - the vast majority of them are OK, some are twats. You can't go around worrying about the odd mad one.

How do you know its learned behavour by the way, as opposed to instinct? I know plenty of dogs that will kill animals purely on instinct, why couldn't this translate into agression towards people in some cases?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have a staffy cross lab got him from rescue so sad to see so many behind bars so upsetting that they get a bad rep. Plus I don't like seeing all the pets on Facebook and the same pets being passed around like toys x

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By *uxom redCouple over a year ago

Shrewsbury

I will not get into an argument with ppl this is my point of _iew

I work with dogs and it comes down to training or lack of

If you can't control your dog via voice alone don't let it off the lead.

Also never leave a dog,any with a child alone

I'm very sorry for the family

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By *imiUKMan over a year ago

Hereford

"I will not get into an argument with ppl this is my point of _iew

I work with dogs and it comes down to training or lack of

If you can't control your dog via voice alone don't let it off the lead.

Also never leave a dog,any with a child alone

I'm very sorry for the family "

Some are highly trained but can still be a bit bokers - I knew a working collie who would come up and "ask" you to stroke him by nuzzling your hand (the farmer always warned you not to), and when you decided to stop, it'd then bite you.....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"As an owner id be fully in favour of introducing dog licenses

We had dog licences up to 29 years ago (1987) and they were abandoned because the system was impossible to police.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I will not get into an argument with ppl this is my point of _iew

I work with dogs and it comes down to training or lack of

If you can't control your dog via voice alone don't let it off the lead.

Also never leave a dog,any with a child alone

I'm very sorry for the family

Cats do this all the time. They just get called arseholes.